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IRC Log for 2017-02-17

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[0:01] <Younder> How many Pi's
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[0:01] <Younder> For tyhe power adapter
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[0:02] <Younder> I had 10
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[0:03] <Younder> 10 Pi2's can feed off an average laptop power
[0:03] <plum> oh wow
[0:04] <plum> that's pretty tight
[0:04] <plum> i've wanted to make a pi cluster but i've heard it's not worth the hassle other than to be cool
[0:04] <Younder> You are wrong bro
[0:05] <Younder> For about 3 grand that baby is yours
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[0:05] <SpeedEvil> Why do you want to make a pi cluster.
[0:05] <SpeedEvil> If it's for other reasons than 'learning about clusters' - it's probably not worth it
[0:06] <plum> agreed, at this point i want to learn how to make clusters but i know it'd be a sunk cost once i set it up
[0:06] <plum> since it would basically just sit there and not be used
[0:07] <Younder> I used it for a phone central of sorts. I am trying to create an alternte inernet for radio.
[0:07] <plum> oh cool!
[0:08] <SpeedEvil> Alas spectrum is a shared space, so interesting mesh stuff almost doesn't work.
[0:08] <Younder> You see I have worked for a phone-sentral before so I know the software.
[0:10] <cnnx> hi
[0:10] <cnnx> got my rpi 3b tonight
[0:10] <cnnx> gonna set it up after dinner
[0:10] <cnnx> SpeedEvil: hey
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[0:18] <plum> now i'm trying to think of things i can use a pi cluster for...
[0:19] <shauno> make it flash lots of pretty lights. take pictures. most them on various sites. then shove it in a drawer and move onto the next project
[0:19] <plum> yessssssssss
[0:19] <plum> lots of lights
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[0:25] <Younder> yes there is always that next project. For me a quadcopter
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[0:26] <plum> i don't see much use in a quadcopter for myself
[0:26] <plum> but i think they are cool
[0:27] <Younder> IMU, and GPS, four cameras (it can see),, Numato spartan 6 FPGA, a Jetson FX1 and that is just what I have so far. No motors no frame. maybe next year
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[0:30] <Younder> You are missing the bigger picture mate. Computer sight is the future. It changes everything. You lanmower, you will hav a persoal bo. Computer-vision be it in quad or in a car is the future'
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[0:30] <Younder> lawn-mover
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[0:33] <Younder> Be warned computer vision is tougher than hell. I have a phd in mathematics and I still find it difficult, But that said I am having the time of my life.
[0:35] <Younder> I get to play with all the dreams of my childhood, or at least some of them, and I get paid for it. What could be better than that.
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[0:36] <yang> Younder: I saw TEDX and those balancing quadcopters, that was amazing what they can do
[0:37] <yang> drops the stick from one copter to another and run around with a glass full of wine
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[0:40] <Younder> This taks it to a new level. You train your quads like you would a dog. They adapt and the learn. They respond by hand gestures, they follow you, and remember the route.
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[0:45] <Younder> I'll mAKe it opensource. might as well as they are intent of stealing it anyway.
[0:46] <Younder> enjoy
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[0:59] <r3> can computer vision allow my PC to see how pissed off I am when it decides to reboot for no good frakking reason?
[1:01] <plum> no they need more bug complaints first
[1:01] <plum> so that they can never read them and allow the problem to continue indefinitely
[1:01] <plum> just ask google support :P
[1:02] <r3> I mean how many levels of abstraction must a poorly behaved website break through in order to crash chrome so hard it takes the rest of the OS with it?
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[1:02] <plum> oh wow
[1:02] <plum> was that on a pi or pc?
[1:02] <r3> PC, sorry, I thought I was on a different channel. But still.
[1:03] <plum> for sure, for PC that's even more impressive
[1:03] <plum> and sad
[1:03] <r3> aye
[1:04] <r3> (not to mention that on a different system this week, the "Start Menu" just doesn't work any more. No fix available. Nothing I can do to fix it short of reinstalling the OS. You know, if one focuses one's design paradigm down to a single button the user presses to get everywhere else, it would be rather important - don't you think? - to be sure that the user can *always* get to the
[1:04] <r3> aforementioned button?)
[1:05] <r3> screen -rd
[1:05] <r3> screen -rd
[1:05] <r3> erp! hah - sorry! wrong window!
[1:05] <shauno> I had that on the insider builds of win10 for a while. the start menu just didn't repond to clicks
[1:05] <plum> wrong window?
[1:05] <plum> :P
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[1:06] <r3> shauno: yeah, of course this is a *new* issue that Windows Update did to it, so all the seaches come up with fixes to the old issues
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[1:08] <plum> <insert "why u use winblows lolol"-esque comment here>
[1:08] <r3> it's not just clicks, it's everything - win key, alt-win - nothing. Start menu gone along with cortana. Stupid. I ended up installing an old Win98-style start-menu replacement in order just to get to my IDE
[1:08] <plum> nah, i hear you, i use it too :P
[1:08] <plum> is it win10?
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[1:08] <r3> aye
[1:08] <plum> i think i've used the menu replacement too, classic shell?
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[1:12] <r3> yeah I think so
[1:13] <plum> i just wanted it for the up-arrow in Windows 7
[1:13] <plum> explorer
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[2:16] <cnnx> GreeningGalaxy: hi i got my pi tonight
[2:16] <cnnx> GreeningGalaxy: i'm ssh'ed into it
[2:16] <GreeningGalaxy> cool!
[2:16] <cnnx> GreeningGalaxy: i think i found what i wanted from our last conversation if you recall.. its called Lora
[2:16] <cnnx> you familiar with it?
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[2:16] <GreeningGalaxy> Lora? no, never heard of it
[2:17] <cnnx> stands for long range
[2:17] <cnnx> its a HAT
[2:17] <cnnx> sits on top of the pi
[2:17] <cnnx> with the pins
[2:17] <cnnx> and its a TX/RX
[2:17] <cnnx> for miles away of data transmission
[2:17] <cnnx> pretty neat
[2:17] <GreeningGalaxy> I'm trying to figure out why my Pi seems to go into this weird limbo state of functionality every few days. It immediately closes SSH connections after accepting authentication and returns 403 forbidden for all its hosted web files
[2:17] <GreeningGalaxy> oh, that's nifty
[2:17] <cnnx> no need for lasers
[2:18] <GreeningGalaxy> cool
[2:18] <cnnx> do you have the 3b too?
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[2:18] <cnnx> are you gonna be here this weekend? i dont have much time during the week cause of work
[2:18] <GreeningGalaxy> I have three 3Bs, but one of them has pins 0-8 fried
[2:19] <GreeningGalaxy> On and off. I'm heading off to Argonne bright and early tomorrow morning to work on an experiment with my prof, but I'm sure there will be downtime.
[2:19] <cnnx> i'm a little disapointed with the disk i/o speed of 2-4 mb/sec
[2:19] <cnnx> pretty poor
[2:19] <cnnx> isnt that a secret lab?
[2:19] <cnnx> or high security
[2:20] <GreeningGalaxy> Argonne is a national laboratory, not a clandestine black site. :P
[2:20] <cnnx> is it big?
[2:20] <GreeningGalaxy> security is clear and present, yes, but it's also open to the public for tours
[2:20] <GreeningGalaxy> I don't really know. I know that it has a particle accelerator about a kilometer around that I'm going to be participating in work involving.
[2:21] <GreeningGalaxy> specifically a synchrotron, for making nice x-rays
[2:21] <cnnx> i work for a hosting company now
[2:21] <cnnx> we have access to computers with 192 cores in each one
[2:21] <cnnx> lots of computing power
[2:21] <GreeningGalaxy> nice
[2:21] <cnnx> but they are expensive to use
[2:21] <cnnx> as a customer
[2:21] <cnnx> i dont have free access
[2:21] <cnnx> couple hundred a month for the power8 ibm system
[2:21] <cnnx> with 192cores
[2:22] <cnnx> or was it 92 cores
[2:22] <cnnx> cant remember now
[2:22] <cnnx> https://www.soyoustart.com/ca/en/power8/
[2:22] <cnnx> 192 threads 550$/month
[2:22] <cnnx> hehe
[2:23] <GreeningGalaxy> huh
[2:23] <BurtyB> ut oh, you owned up for working at sys/ovh/etc? ;)
[2:23] <GreeningGalaxy> what do your customers mainly use it for?
[2:23] <cnnx> BurtyB: what do you mean?
[2:24] <BurtyB> cnnx, well they're not the most loved company (especially for support) :/
[2:24] <cnnx> GreeningGalaxy: computing power.. we dont actually see what they do with them
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[2:24] <cnnx> BurtyB: oh ok
[2:24] <GreeningGalaxy> oh
[2:24] <GreeningGalaxy> none of them mention it to you?
[2:25] <cnnx> GreeningGalaxy: its only my third week at the company :)
[2:25] <cnnx> still in training
[2:25] <GreeningGalaxy> oh, okay
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[2:26] <GreeningGalaxy> this LoRa/GPS HAT looks cool
[2:27] <BurtyB> the power8 do look nice but I'm missing the 96GB RAM boxes they used to do heh
[2:27] <cnnx> GreeningGalaxy: yep
[2:28] <GreeningGalaxy> I haven't found actual figures for range yet, though, just Txpower. What order of magnitude of meters are we talking about? A hundred? a thousand? ten thousand?
[2:28] <cnnx> i found some
[2:28] <cnnx> about 1.2 miles with osbtacles (concrete walls, buildings,etc)
[2:29] <cnnx> and 12miles without obstacles
[2:29] <GreeningGalaxy> okay, that's pretty good
[2:29] <cnnx> something like htat
[2:29] <cnnx> for a 30$ board its amazing
[2:29] <cnnx> you need 2
[2:29] <GreeningGalaxy> wow, isn't 12 miles normally over the horizon?
[2:29] <cnnx> not sure
[2:29] <cnnx> my friend told me to learn the pi first
[2:29] <cnnx> before i get the HAT modules
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[2:30] <cnnx> im running apt-get upgrade on raspbian for the first time
[2:30] <cnnx> its been doing it for 30 minutes
[2:30] <cnnx> so slow
[2:30] <GreeningGalaxy> well, I shouldn't say "normally" since it depends closely on how high above the surface you are, but I'm pretty sure that the horizon is a lot closer than that if you assume you're standing in a rowboat on a flat sea
[2:30] <GreeningGalaxy> I suppose if you're on a mountain the horizon is significantly further afield, lol
[2:31] <cnnx> yes
[2:31] <GreeningGalaxy> oh lol yeah the first upgrade is a doozy
[2:31] <cnnx> ok i need to get to bed
[2:31] <cnnx> 3am comes early
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[2:31] <cnnx> night GreeningGalaxy
[2:31] <cnnx> cya BurtyB
[2:31] <BurtyB> cyas
[2:31] <GreeningGalaxy> night
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[2:32] <GreeningGalaxy> hrm. I somewhat suspect the university routers are trying to switch my IP from looking at the logs, which might be why my server keeps crapping out
[2:33] <GreeningGalaxy> but that doesn't explain why it still returns 403s from the httpd and successful auths from the sshd. It's still visible and even returns pings, I just can't do anything with it.
[2:33] <GreeningGalaxy> I keep seeing logs from a dhcp client, despite the fact that I don't think I have one running
[2:34] <GreeningGalaxy> it sure would be nice if it would stay running and not die for the whole time I'm gone and can't get back in to reboot it
[2:35] <GreeningGalaxy> maybe I can write a quick python script to listen on a port and reboot if it hears anything. pretty lame solution, but I have less than 15 hours before I leave the city.
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[2:41] <GreeningGalaxy> hmm, I could also make it reboot every x hours if it doesn't hear from me
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[3:07] <Infectus> Infect are you me
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[3:07] <Infectus> ???
[3:08] <Infectus> when I try to nick to Infect it says it's already taken
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[3:09] <Kx> so what are some good pi zero projects you guys have
[3:09] <Rooster313> hello
[3:10] <Chillum> Kx: strap it to the thermal printer and make a portable feed printer
[3:10] <guideX> what do you put your raspberry pi stuff in
[3:11] <guideX> I find myself trying to make cases and things
[3:11] <guideX> it's really challenging to make something to put your raspberry pi stuff in!!
[3:11] <Kx> I just buy cases
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[3:11] <Kx> from china
[3:11] <guideX> I do that too, but where do I put the battery? the powerboost 1000c?
[3:11] <guideX> where do I put all the cables and usb hub etc etc
[3:12] <Kx> that's why I wish I could use a 3d printer lol
[3:12] <guideX> Kx: taking apart existing junk seems to be a good way
[3:12] <guideX> for instance, old laptop cd drive trays are excellent
[3:12] <Kx> My OCD would be too big
[3:12] <guideX> and the screw holes even line up a little bit
[3:12] <Kx> jk I don't have OCD
[3:13] <Kx> but I still would be annoye
[3:13] <Kx> annoyed*
[3:13] <Kx> also where do you guys buy pi zero's
[3:13] <guideX> can the battery and zero touch each other?
[3:13] <Kx> there's adafruit, but it's $8
[3:13] <guideX> Kx: Micro center has almost everything raspberry pi related
[3:13] <guideX> maybe like 65%
[3:14] * ball looks up microcenter
[3:14] <Kx> nearest micro is 1 hr away
[3:14] <guideX> I go to the one in tustin
[3:14] <guideX> ca
[3:14] <ball> Oh! There's one within driving range!
[3:15] <guideX> ball: nice
[3:15] <Kx> nearest one is in tustin guideX
[3:15] <Kx> but i live in LA
[3:15] <guideX> Kx: lol, same one
[3:15] <Kx> lol
[3:15] <guideX> it's not really an hour, I drive that way every day
[3:15] <Kx> well
[3:15] <guideX> I'm in long beach
[3:15] <Kx> gas money would make adafruit more worth it already
[3:15] <ball> I should price up a NUC
[3:16] <guideX> yeah but microcenter has so much stuff!
[3:16] <Kx> would you buy a pi zero and send it to me
[3:16] <Kx> :P
[3:16] <Kx> jk
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[3:16] <guideX> I do happen to have spare ones, you could almost drive to my location and grab one
[3:16] <Kx> haha
[3:16] <Kx> whats your zip
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[3:17] <guideX> I'm in 90804
[3:17] <JakeSays> does the pi3 support an external wifi antenna?
[3:17] <Kx> aww
[3:17] <Kx> it's like 26 miles
[3:18] <guideX> well next tim e your in the area :P
[3:18] <Kx> lol
[3:18] <ball> Kx: Do you have a bicycle?
[3:18] <JakeSays> guideX: i sometimes use old pc power supply cases
[3:19] <Kx> nope ball
[3:19] <Kx> 26 miles a long way to bike
[3:19] <Kx> plus biking back..
[3:19] <ball> No it's not.
[3:19] <guideX> JakeSays: yeah I see taking old junk apart is usually pretty good, but what about screw holes? Do you make your own?
[3:19] <ball> Do you have some good boots? :-)
[3:19] <Kx> :(
[3:19] <guideX> dude I can run 26 miles :P
[3:19] <Kx> I'd rather just pay guideX for shipping
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[3:20] <JakeSays> guideX: when needed, yes. the last one i replaced the psu circuit board with a piece of plexiglass and mounted the pi to that
[3:20] <JakeSays> worked well
[3:20] <Kx> I'm so jealous of people that live near microcenters and got pi zeros for $1
[3:21] <guideX> oh brilliant, I happen to have a ton of plexiglass, and all the tools to cut it
[3:21] <guideX> thanks js
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[3:22] <guideX> then I suppose I can use existing holes in the metal piece to screw into the plexiglass
[3:22] <guideX> I bought all this plexiglass, because I used to make those 3d hologram upside down pyramids
[3:23] <Kx> ah
[3:23] <Kx> did they work good, guideX?
[3:23] <guideX> very very good!
[3:23] <Kx> nice!
[3:24] <guideX> here's one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2Y5Px3Y0vo
[3:24] <guideX> I have actually made these with plexiglass, and it really really works
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[3:26] <Kx> some guy made a big one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZhjEQuR_fo
[3:26] <guideX> i've made big ones before too, so much fun
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[3:36] <guideX> I'm wondering, can the PKCELL LP503562 + Powerboost 1000c power the raspberry pi zero?
[3:36] <guideX> it doesn't seem like it works
[3:36] <guideX> the raspberry pi zero doesn't power up that way
[3:36] <ball> guideX: Never heard of 'em.
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[3:44] <Kx> I envy people with solders
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[3:45] <Kx> I mean soldering iron*
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[3:46] <Rooster313> weller wes51 is a great iron
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[3:50] <[Saint]> Any of you guys messed around with CMA much, or at all?
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[3:50] <[Saint]> I've been pissing around with it a bit and there doesn't seem to be any obvious downsides to it, and it certainly appears to function well, and as expected.
[3:51] <Kx> what is CMA?
[3:51] <[Saint]> So I wonder why it isn't officially supported at all, and hasn't been for the better part of four years.
[3:51] <[Saint]> Kx: Contiguous Memory Allocation
[3:51] <[Saint]> It is basically a dynamic management system for splitting RAM between ARM and GPU
[3:52] <[Saint]> You set a high and low water mark, and an initial pool, and an allocation bank and max allocation.
[3:52] <[Saint]> And it increments or decrements depending on the high or low water marks.
[3:53] <[Saint]> Which is a long winded way of saying that instead of having to allocate a massive chunk of RAM to the GPU, you can allocate the minimum, and when the high water mark is hit more RAM will be allocated from ARM to the GPU.
[3:53] <[Saint]> And vice versa in reverse for the low water mark.
[3:53] <sassinak-work> dmesg
[3:54] <sassinak-work> bah, wrong window
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[3:54] <[Saint]> sassinak-work@raspberrypi:~$ dmesg
[3:54] <[Saint]> -bash: dmesg: command not found
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[4:07] <drjam> cnnx, man, ive done so many fresh installs on my pi's i am lookingn at how to host my own GIT or REPO or whatever at home
[4:08] <[Saint]> 'repo' is an Android build system tool...
[4:08] <[Saint]> and git in general is absolutely terrible for your use case.
[4:09] <drjam> lol, i just threw words in there, to get my meaning across, not a defintion :)
[4:09] <drjam> definition
[4:09] <drjam> but yeah, want to host all updates etc for raspian on my home lab
[4:10] <drjam> would make updates a TAD faster
[4:10] <[Saint]> at most you would probably want to make a git repository of your environment and .dotfiles, and make an .img of an up-to-date partially configured up-to-date installation with your additional installations added and the free space crushed out of the .img
[4:10] <drjam> whoa
[4:10] <[Saint]> git is absolutely terrible for hosting binaries as it can't do binary diffing.
[4:10] <drjam> that all sounds good lol
[4:11] <drjam> but i have TBs of space here, have own R710's and NAS thingies, im ok downloading 200gb of pi updates
[4:11] <[Saint]> You could use my environment/dotfiles as an example.
[4:11] <[Saint]> https://github.com/saint-lascivious/dotfiles
[4:11] <drjam> ubuntu updates and mint toooo, id like to mirrow those 3 tihnigs here
[4:12] * drjam cliks
[4:12] <[Saint]> And, yes, you could, but it is stupidly inefficient.
[4:12] <[Saint]> seeing as how in a few short days the wide majority of those binaries will be out of date and will be updated anyway.
[4:13] <drjam> im assuming i can just download the updates then? to keep up to date with.... i want to be self suffient
[4:13] <drjam> typos....ugh
[4:13] <[Saint]> with the way I do it you basically just install a clean image, git checkout your environment dotfiles, and them cp them from ~/dotfiles to ~
[4:13] <drjam> like, download full everything, then sync updates weekly
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[4:13] <drjam> im going to have to google all that
[4:14] <drjam> havent learnt that lingo yet
[4:14] <drjam> thanks for the new info man, its why i lurk!
[4:14] * drjam highh fives [Saint]
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[4:14] <[Saint]> and, yes, you can. it's not particularly efficient to do so though. realistically the only things you're actually interested in is the apt list of installed packages and your user and environment files from ~
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[4:14] <[Saint]> there's not a hell of a lot of reason to backup /
[4:15] <drjam> hehehe i get that aye, but im a datahoarder
[4:15] <drjam> cant help it
[4:15] <drjam> :)
[4:15] <drjam> have space will copy
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[4:16] * [Saint] spots room for improvement
[4:17] <[Saint]> I should update my git setup to cope with legacy placements for .git/config
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[4:35] * [Saint] thanks drjam for indirectly making him think of a way to make his environment dotfiles forwards and backwards compatible with git versions
[4:37] <[Saint]> very simple workaround, but one that was needed:
[4:37] <Kx> what are some good cheap stuff to buy on aliexpress or ebay
[4:37] <[Saint]> GIT_CONFIG=~/.config/git/gitconfig
[4:37] <[Saint]> LEGACY_GIT_CONFIG=~/.gitconfig
[4:37] <[Saint]> if [ ! -f $LEGACY_GIT_CONFIG ]; then
[4:37] <[Saint]> ln -s $GIT_CONFIG $LEGACY_GIT_CONFIG
[4:37] <[Saint]> fi
[4:38] <[Saint]> So now git versions 2.* and lower and 3.* and higher 'just work'
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[4:39] <[Saint]> I also caught a directory creation syntax error in my .ssh/sockets magic
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[4:53] <Rooster313> is anybody running kodi on top of raspbian?
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[4:57] <[Saint]> Rooster313: I use LibreELEC personally, as it offers markedly better performance
[4:57] <[Saint]> If you have a spare sdcard, or a USB thumbdrive, I highly recommend the same.
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[4:58] <Rooster313> stand alone or along side raspbian? [Saint]
[4:58] <[Saint]> Kodi runs well on top of Raspbian, but it really can't compare to running in a JEOS such as LibreELEC.
[4:59] <[Saint]> Rooster313: there's only one option, LibreELEC is a JEOS, not an application.
[4:59] <Zardoz> Rooster313: I used Openelec or LibreElec
[4:59] * [Saint] hisses at Zardoz
[4:59] <[Saint]> OpenELEC is deadc, let it die! :p
[4:59] <Zardoz> lol
[4:59] <[Saint]> *dead
[5:00] <Zardoz> oh I dont use openelec anymore
[5:00] <Rooster313> JE? please expand
[5:00] <Zardoz> but yeah they are both JEOS
[5:00] <[Saint]> Rooster313: Just Enough Operating System
[5:00] <Zardoz> up
[5:01] <[Saint]> drjam: this one's for you, bud - thanks for making me think about things:
[5:01] <[Saint]> https://github.com/saint-lascivious/dotfiles/commit/52135c01fa37938d6d023abbbc0ed880092e3500
[5:01] <Rooster313> ahh, thanks. I have been running osmc for awhile
[5:01] <[Saint]> Rooster313: I very highly advise http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=298461
[5:02] <Rooster313> all that aside, the screen blanking is annoying on top of raspbian
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[5:02] <[Saint]> Well, with a JEOS Kodi distro you won't have such issues.
[5:03] <[Saint]> You can if you wish dynamically disable screenblanking depending on the current run instance in Raspbian, though.
[5:03] <[Saint]> I would personally advice using NOOBS to dualboot LibreELEC or just using LibreELEC outright, though.
[5:04] <[Saint]> Or, preferably, dualbooting with distinct media via a second sd card or USB boot.
[5:04] <Rooster313> i sudo xset off and -dpms and something else
[5:05] <[Saint]> You can very trivially set a cron job that runs every $SCREEN_BLANKING_PERIOD and checks for the process ID of Kodi and disable or enable screenblanking.
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[5:05] <[Saint]> Or...as above, just, don't, and run Kodi the right way.
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[5:06] <Rooster313> i want to control some external devices with raspbian and have a kodi as a media player going too
[5:06] <[Saint]> Devices such as?
[5:07] <[Saint]> It's very highly likely that you can do so within LibreELEC.
[5:07] <Rooster313> lights, sensors, rgb display
[5:07] <[Saint]> That's a bit vague, but, all that is possible from within LibreELEC.
[5:08] <Rooster313> python scripts? with libreE
[5:08] <[Saint]> LibreELEC is heavily extensible. But for your case I would advise dualbooting it seems.
[5:09] <[Saint]> It seems as though you have little to no business running a full Raspbian distribution for your stated goal.
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[5:09] <[Saint]> So you would probably be better off with Raspbian Lite and LibreELEC dualboot.
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[5:10] <Rooster313> perhaps, i'm learning in my spare time.
[5:11] <[Saint]> The full Raspbian image has a metric craptonne of stuff you'll probably literally never use.
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[5:11] <[Saint]> In the order of a couple of GB of packages most people will never ever launch.
[5:11] <Rooster313> i hear that
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[5:13] <Rooster313> might take me a few, but i'll post some pics of my dev pi thingy
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[5:14] <Rooster313> i have one at work running osmc piped into a P.A. system playing about 20gb of music in a 350,000 sq foot warehouse
[5:18] <[Saint]> Is it solely for audio?
[5:18] <[Saint]> If so you'd probably be better off with mpd
[5:19] <[Saint]> OSMC is rather bloated for an audio-only use case.
[5:22] <Rooster313> yea, but it has been working great
[5:22] <Rooster313> http://thedrakelement.com/pi-thingy/
[5:25] <[Saint]> I don't doubt that it does work.
[5:25] <[Saint]> It's just a pretty poor fit for the use case IMO.
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[5:26] <Rooster313> i'm always open to better options
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[5:31] <Rooster313> [Saint], let me give you the scenario, and maybe you have a recommendation , ok?
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[5:38] <Rooster313> maybe another time , later , im out
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[5:47] <[Saint]> uuuugh, I didn't realize he was waiting for confirmation...
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[8:11] <brainzap> good morning berians
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[8:33] <GeekOfflineNL> good mornig
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[9:13] <chra94_> Are there any books/resources for people new to the Pi but who have Linux/Bash/Programming experience?
[9:13] <chra94_> Or, does anyone have recommendations for material to read?
[9:14] <dayne> just dive in and dig into instructions on a project you want to tackle - and if you are using raspbian then just think debian/ubuntu when debugging the linux side.
[9:14] <HrdwrBoB> yep
[9:14] <HrdwrBoB> exactly
[9:15] <HrdwrBoB> it's just a small PC
[9:15] <chra94_> Heh you're right. The marketing with pi specific books threw me off
[9:15] <chra94_> Thanks
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[9:16] <HrdwrBoB> chra94_: center housing rotating assembly?
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[9:19] <chra94_> Heh, HrdwrBoB, what is that?
[9:20] <HrdwrBoB> turbo assembly
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[9:20] <HrdwrBoB> CHRA is the bit in the middle with the bearingsand stuff
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[9:22] <chra94_> That explain the "turbocharger" google results
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[9:34] <Hanonim> hola
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[9:36] <GeekOfflineNL> hola
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[10:01] <Lonefish> ola pola!
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[10:09] <Gadgetoid_Pim> Ohai ali1234
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[10:17] <GeekOfflineNL> hi Lonefish :-)
[10:18] <BurtyB> mornings folks
[10:19] <GeekOfflineNL> morning
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[10:25] <Drzacek> morning
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[10:30] <Gadgetoid_Pim> Mornin' all
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[10:56] <[Saint]> So... who wants to mess around with a config.cfg template deploying moderately aggressive overclock|underclock|overvolt|undervolt for Rpi 3?
[10:56] <[Saint]> http://pastebin.com/EtH92rrM
[10:57] <Gadgetoid_Pim> Brutal!
[10:58] <[Saint]> with CMA enabled and a conservative CPU covernor set, it actually makes a measurable (albeit trivial) impact on power consumption
[10:58] <[Saint]> Some people /miiiiiiiight/ want to change arm_freq to the default 1200
[10:58] <Gadgetoid_Pim> Pfft!
[10:58] <[Saint]> I have a lot of luck, it seems, and am able to run 1400~1450 MHZ on my boards
[10:59] <Gadgetoid_Pim> I'll just send myself a support email and pretend it died out of the blue and I'm totally confused
[10:59] <[Saint]> haha
[11:00] <[Saint]> I'm really interested as to how much luck other people have with these settings.
[11:00] <[Saint]> especially with CMA enabled.
[11:00] <Gadgetoid_Pim> So with this overclock, can I run windows? :P
[11:00] <[Saint]> ...y'know the Pi 3 can run Windows, yeah?
[11:00] <[Saint]> And incidentally, all the Pis can run Windows SE.
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[11:02] <[Saint]> I have corrupted the sdcard in my test rig about a dozen times in the past couple of hours, lol.
[11:02] <[Saint]> trying to find a sane and reliable way of deploying dynamic scaling for the sdhost.
[11:03] <[Saint]> I have it....kinda working. Kinda.
[11:03] <[Saint]> The sane way to deploy it is as a kernel module, though, so I need to do a bit more work.
[11:03] <Gadgetoid_Pim> And the insane way?
[11:04] <[Saint]> The insane, current, way is an absurd collection of wrapper scripts and dtoverlays hooked to the default governors.
[11:05] <Gadgetoid_Pim> Based on my experience with dtoverlays, I'd suggest more than 0 is absurd :D
[11:05] <[Saint]> 50MHz sdhost at idle, 80MHz at load, and 100MHz at sustained I/O load.
[11:05] <[Saint]> it is very much hardware dependent, though.
[11:05] <Gadgetoid_Pim> What do you use to benchmark the resulting impact on speed?
[11:06] <[Saint]> If you don't have a UHS-II compliant sdcard, you can pretty much forget 100MHz.
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[11:06] <Gadgetoid_Pim> I don't think I own a single high capacity or high speed SD card, and I'm a semi-professional photographer on occasion
[11:07] <gordonDrogon> morning Pi Pips.
[11:07] <Gadgetoid_Pim> Mornin' gordonDrogon! How goes?
[11:07] <[Saint]> Gadgetoid_Pim: I just use a small wrapper for dd that flushes read and write caches in between doing a bunch of reads and writes of various block sizes and total counts.
[11:07] <gordonDrogon> it's going finely.
[11:08] <[Saint]> So I can get a good handle on both contiguous read/write and random read/write
[11:08] <Gadgetoid_Pim> I've looked into a few methods Saint for comparing SD cards, but there are just so many factors
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[11:09] <gordonDrogon> I choose stability over speed any day...
[11:10] <[Saint]> gordonDrogon: there's no reason why one can't have both
[11:10] <[Saint]> the default settings are aggressively wimpy for the lowest common denominator
[11:11] <[Saint]> with a UHS-II compliant sdcard with sdhost overclocked to 80MHz the performance for contiguous read and write is just insane compared to the default of 50MHz
[11:12] <[Saint]> you can get around a 100% increase in both random and contiguous I/O.
[11:12] <[Saint]> At 100MHz you do start to sacrifice some stability if you don't make use of a couple of other related config.txt options.
[11:13] <Gadgetoid_Pim> I tried benchmarking with iozone but had data overload: http://www.iozone.org/
[11:13] <[Saint]> You really need to set an initial_turbo and boot_delay with sdhost overclocked.
[11:14] <[Saint]> otherwise things get screwy, and the first reading of the clocks is wrong, and sets the wrong delays for sdhost...and everything goes to hell.
[11:14] <Gadgetoid_Pim> I did wonder why boot_delay was in your config.txt
[11:15] <[Saint]> so it pays to lock the arm_core to the max freq for at least 10s during boot to make sure you're reading the right values.
[11:15] <[Saint]> boot_delay is to give the sdcard some time to "warm up", so to speak.
[11:16] <[Saint]> there's probably a better way I could do it in the kernel itself, but I chose to abuse the config param instead. Not sure what the actual function is, but I ended up using it to my advantage in this regard.
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[11:22] <[Saint]> oooooohhhhhhhhhh, awesome.
[11:22] <[Saint]> that's what I wanted.
[11:23] <[Saint]> dtoverlay=pi3-disable-bt, and
[11:23] <[Saint]> dtoverlay=pi3-disable-wifi
[11:24] <[Saint]> They should provide quite some degree of power savings.
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[11:24] <Gadgetoid_Pim> Pi 3 not booting with those settings, now on fire
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[11:25] <Gadgetoid_Pim> (may not actually be on fire)
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[11:28] <Gadgetoid_Pim> Wonder which is the troublesome setting :D
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[11:29] <Gadgetoid_Pim> It's like pouring petrol and gunpowder on a fire and wondering which one made it explode into flames
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[11:30] <Lartza> You could have an educated guess
[11:31] <Lartza> Petrol is hard to get to explode
[11:31] <Lartza> Even to ignite, except when there's already an inferno of course
[11:32] <[Saint]> Gadgetoid_Pim: I can give you two guesses in order of likelihood
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[11:32] <[Saint]> sdhost overclock (try 80MHz), or arm_freq 1400 (two the default of 1200
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[11:33] <[Saint]> Actually, comment both of them out.
[11:33] <Gadgetoid_Pim> It doesn't seem to mind arm_freq 1400 although I've commented out all the dram settings, can swap around to just those two
[11:33] <[Saint]> it's probably the sdhost overclock then.
[11:34] <[Saint]> comment it out, if it boots, try 80MHz.
[11:34] <Gadgetoid_Pim> Might be fair to say however that it's a little unstable :D
[11:34] <[Saint]> Interesting. I seem to be VERY lucky.
[11:36] <[Saint]> I have two dozen or so pi 3s here, and several dozen in deployment in the neighborhood, and of those I have had less than 5 that I can't overclock to or very near these settings.
[11:38] <Gadgetoid_Pim> No telling how long this one has been floating around for
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[11:41] <gordonDrogon> Gadgetoid_Pim, Lartza petrol. it will burn extremely rapidly. a spark will set it alight. pouring petrol into a fire is a Bad Thing. Gunpowder will just sparkle.
[11:42] <gordonDrogon> Diesel on the other hand.... Safe as water... ish.
[11:42] <Lartza> Oh that is actually true
[11:42] <Lartza> :D
[11:42] <Lartza> Well petrol isn't as easy to light as movies but
[11:42] * [Saint] plays devils advocate and says that petrol, in fact, is inflamable.
[11:42] <Lartza> You can light vapor fairly easy
[11:42] <gordonDrogon> and the vapour pressure is very low.
[11:42] <[Saint]> pour enough petrol onto a fire quickly enough, and you'll suffocate it.
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[11:42] <Lartza> :D
[11:42] <Gadgetoid_Pim> I seem to have the most uncooperative Pi 3
[11:43] * [Saint] did this for a science experiment in school
[11:43] <salad> it seems that the raspberrypi broke 2 sd cards
[11:43] <gordonDrogon> Gadgetoid_Pim, going to the Thing in Cambridge in a couple of weeks?
[11:43] <salad> and i am now using a cloned image from the second into a third card
[11:43] <[Saint]> salad: I doubt that immensely
[11:43] <salad> can i run the image in a vm?
[11:43] <salad> it cracked the sd card
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[11:43] <Gadgetoid_Pim> gordonDrogon, Yes!
[11:43] <salad> the slot that holds the sd
[11:44] <[Saint]> salad: the slot applies near zero force to it.
[11:44] <[Saint]> clumsy humans, however...
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[11:44] <salad> clumsy humans however can use cameras to record video and prove said things
[11:44] <salad> you are wise
[11:45] <Gadgetoid_Pim> Reminds me gordonDrogon, I need to make some travel arrangements!
[11:45] <[Saint]> If you can video a pi of any description applying enough force to crack an sdcard, entirely unassisted, I suspect you'll win the Internet my man.
[11:45] <[Saint]> I won't hold my breath waiting for it however.
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[11:47] <[Saint]> Hell, two of three variants of the sd holder are friction fit and apply /juuuuuuuust/ enough force to keep the card in place.
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[11:47] <[Saint]> the push-pull slot has a fair amount more force behind it, but nowhere near enough to snap a microsd.
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[11:47] <[Saint]> the amount of mechanical force required for that just isn't coming out of that tiny little lever spring.
[11:48] <salad> well it did
[11:48] <[Saint]> Cool story.
[11:49] <salad> i will take some pictures
[11:49] <[Saint]> Taking pictures proves nothing.
[11:50] <[Saint]> The only acceptable proof would be video of an sdcard cracking or snapping after insertion with no external force applied to it.
[11:50] <salad> i did not say it breaks them on the spot
[11:50] <[Saint]> Evidence of damage after the fact proves nothing as to the cause of that damage.
[11:51] <salad> the pressure that the sd holder applies on the sides breaks the sd
[11:52] <salad> in time
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[11:52] <[Saint]> Yet I've never seen this once in years of deployment with literally hundreds of units. How strange.
[11:52] <salad> i am on a vnc right now, running from an image, so i must migrate stuff
[11:52] <salad> but i will show you
[11:53] <[Saint]> Showing me a broken card doesn't prove anything. There's absolutely no way to verify you didn't fat-finger it.
[11:54] <salad> comment on the pictures, when i will post them, until then i don't care for your remarks.
[11:54] <[Saint]> Nor do I care for unverified and unverifiable claims.
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[11:59] <[Saint]> Gadgetoid_Pim: did you happen to verify which settings(s) were stuffing things up for your pi?
[12:00] <[Saint]> and if so, did you find acceptable (an) acceptable value(s) for it|them?
[12:01] <[Saint]> If so I would be very curious to know them.
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[12:04] <gordonDrogon> Gadgetoid_Pim, yes, I might go up on Saturday morning - ought to get there by about 10am.
[12:04] * MiningInc is so sick of WinBlows
[12:05] <gordonDrogon> MiningInc, you have a choice ...
[12:05] * MiningInc is aware :)
[12:05] <gordonDrogon> which is why you're here, presumably :)
[12:06] <[Saint]> gordonDrogon: he could be running win se on the pi :)
[12:06] * MiningInc is realizing it's time to flip things.. WinBlows in the VM's and linux for the main flavor
[12:06] <MiningInc> lulz
[12:06] <MiningInc> nopes. Not win se
[12:06] <[Saint]> MiningInc: that's how it should be.
[12:06] <[Saint]> re: virtualization
[12:06] * MiningInc has learned this is only save way
[12:06] <MiningInc> lulz
[12:07] <[Saint]> MiningInc: well...it really depends how often you make use of them simultaneously.
[12:07] <MiningInc> yes virtualization seems to be the way forward
[12:07] <[Saint]> For gaming and full hardware control, you've really no business running it in a container, even a minimal cgroups based one.
[12:07] * salad is now known as salad|
[12:08] <[Saint]> dual-boot w/ dedicated partitioning makes a lot more sense.
[12:08] <[Saint]> and windows|linux dualboot with dedicated partitions really isn't difficult to set up.
[12:08] <[Saint]> the easiest way is to just ensure that Windows is the last operating system to be installed.
[12:08] <[Saint]> then you don't have to screw around too much with grub2
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[12:09] <[Saint]> And Windows will run an order of magnitude better, and you'll get full control over the CPU, GPU, and peripherals.
[12:09] <MiningInc> yeah I used to run dual boot setups pre win 8.1.
[12:10] <[Saint]> If you value performance and have sufficient disk space, there's not a hell of a lot of reason not to use a dedicated partition dual boot environment
[12:10] <MiningInc> then I updated newest laptop to win 10 about a year ago now. The good thing windows 10 did right... Pushed the rest of us kool-aid drinkers over the edge and realized linux is/has been just better. and if Windows can't get it right after this long... Probably never will.
[12:10] <[Saint]> you can still add a virtualized Windows environment under the Linux system for quick tasks that can't be completed under WINE if you need to.
[12:11] <Hanonim> i could never come back to windows, i wouldn't get any work done
[12:11] <[Saint]> Hanonim: heh, gaming?
[12:11] <MiningInc> and what the hell is the deal with phoning home 500 times an hour and every little thing requires network connection.
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[12:11] <Hanonim> [Saint]: well, i don't game... i give you that, gaming on linux is awful
[12:12] <MiningInc> Hanonim it's the current theme here...no work, actual work anyway. Plenty work being done trying to attach rubber bands/ glue quickly as possible to keep windows running. lol
[12:12] <[Saint]> MiningInc: one could ask "what's the deal with end users who don't read ToC/EULAs" :p
[12:12] <[Saint]> But that would be facetious...
[12:12] <MiningInc> I do game but not enough to justify running windows as a base OS
[12:12] <MiningInc> lulz [Saint] it truly would be
[12:13] <[Saint]> My basic premise is that "if you had done so you would know precisely why it is doing so"
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[12:13] <[Saint]> It may or may not make it excusable to you, but you'd know why.
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[12:14] <MiningInc> I was having a discussion not long ago, regarding To(C/S)/EULA. And how 99/100 people you ask: "Do you read such terms before agreeing?" answer always being, "um, no"
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[12:15] <Gadgetoid_Pim> Saint not yet, I've given up for now :D
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[12:18] <MiningInc> put kali linux on the pi to do some poking around my network/systems and see what the problem was and how/what/where source of this Trojan was... It quickly made me realize why the playground (internet) leaves nobody safe anymore. lol. The # of open source and capable tools, makes it easy as clicking buttons to be a 'pest'.
[12:20] <MiningInc> Also was a reminder of why backups are religion! Thankfully I had backed up 2 days prior to the detection of Trojan:Win32/Manrele.K!cl
[12:20] <[Saint]> MiningInc: you're infinitely better off with debian/raspbian and installing the tools you require
[12:21] <MiningInc> Yes. Same conclusion I came too.
[12:21] <[Saint]> there's nothing that exists in Kali that you can't pull from the debian/raspbian repositories.
[12:21] <[Saint]> and both debian and raspbian are infinitely more secure.
[12:21] <[Saint]> Kali is basically wide open due to several prerequisites for toolset functionality.
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[12:22] <MiningInc> Plus I am familiar with raspbian. Well somewhat anyways. lol. I'd prefer to just build off that. Plus kali is like renting the entire tool store, vs getting just the tool you need.
[12:22] <[Saint]> There is, essentially, no reason at all for Kali to exist.
[12:22] <[Saint]> I don't know a single penetration tester that actually uses it.
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[12:22] <[Saint]> it is basically a "haxor" distro for skiddies.
[12:22] <MiningInc> yeah from the dabbling I have done over the past decade.. debian seems to be my 'main sauce' so I wan't to stick with debian builds.
[12:23] <[Saint]> The same type of user that will run Gentoo for no reason other than being l337.
[12:23] <[Saint]> Or the type that runs ALARM and re-images every time they pacman -Syu
[12:24] * [Saint] is overly pessimistic but there really is a lot of this type of user
[12:24] <MiningInc> lulz for haxor
[12:25] <MiningInc> to be fair though...those types are just that, users.
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[12:25] <[Saint]> At least the number of people running ALARM on a raspberry pi has significantly decreased.
[12:25] <MiningInc> They are not interested in actually learning anything. Hell they are not interested in being engaged with much at all. lol
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[12:25] <[Saint]> Ever since Arch Linux stopped supplying .img files ready-to-go for ARMHF/ARMEL.
[12:25] <MiningInc> just drool and move alone like all the lemmings of our world
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[12:26] <[Saint]> The installation for ALARM raises the bar significantly, and the type of user that gets themselves into trouble by using Arch because it is l337, despite being out of their depth and unwilling to learn, usually isn't interested in figuring it out.
[12:26] <MiningInc> I tried to install ARCH onthe pi around 6 months or so ago. I kept having issues and went back with raspbian
[12:27] <[Saint]> If they can't dd the image straight to their sdcard it bursts a few bubbles.
[12:27] <MiningInc> HAHA
[12:27] <MiningInc> the bubble is popped upon reading the :inst: dd ...
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[12:28] <[Saint]> MiningInc: two things spring to mind and I'll list them in order of likelihood as I perceive it:
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[12:29] <[Saint]> 1 - You tried to use regular tar instead of bsdtar to unpack the ALARM image
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[12:29] <MiningInc> I can only imagine how fluent with debian and linux in general I'd be, had I spent the same amount of time with it. Instead I spent years on reading /searching/ etc. to keep clunking along with my windows distros
[12:29] <[Saint]> 2 - You tried doing to using sudo, not actual root.
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[12:30] <[Saint]> Both or either of those will end in a failed installation that appears to work but will not function
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[12:30] <MiningInc> lulz, you got it with the first one.
[12:30] <[Saint]> :)
[12:30] <[Saint]> bsdtar is just different enough for regular tar to be annoying as hell.
[12:31] <[Saint]> it will "work", but it will skip the contexts.
[12:31] <MiningInc> That was it too. Finally appeared to 'boot' but no... couldnt
[12:31] <[Saint]> For the life of me I have no idea why Arch Linux shunned the Raspberry Pi community by refusing to supply multipart .img files.
[12:32] <MiningInc> What distro do you currently run?
[12:32] <[Saint]> I think they were getting angsty about being flooded with a million script kiddies.
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[12:32] <MiningInc> I don't understand that either... Especially given the size of the pi community. Plenty of crowd to be pleased
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[12:33] <chra94> Does this pic use this hat? https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0174/1800/products/Diffusion_layer_1_of_2_grande.JPG?v=1458137585
[12:33] <MiningInc> I could see that being an overwhelming barrier to entry. lol... The domino of those who shouldn't be there in the first place, lined up to ask a million questions all answerable in the docs/FAQ
[12:34] <chra94> https://shop.pimoroni.com/collections/raspberry-pi/products/unicorn-hat
[12:34] <[Saint]> I run Debian on my thinclient terminals and laptops. Raspbian and ALARM on my Rpi and ODROID ARM clusters, LibreELEC on my Rpi and ODROID media centers, and Ubuntu Server on my storage server and development server.
[12:34] <MiningInc> Nice
[12:35] <[Saint]> I use Ubuntu Server because of the 'Canonical Hardware Certification Program' and partnership with Hewlett Packard.
[12:36] <[Saint]> It is the easiest way to get my really esoteric multi-socket servers to run with the equally esoteric twin dual-gigabit ethernet controllers and hardware RAID controllers w/ dual redundant controllers working out of the box.
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[12:37] <[Saint]> My servers are fairly oldschool by current standard, but they're still beasts.
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[12:38] <MiningInc> I'm trying to find a way to create a media server that is plug and play (i.e. all setup/configured) on a Rpi or such. Something I could send my parents in the mail, and they could plug in and go. At most maybe a bit of hand holding OTP to get them connected etc.
[12:38] <MiningInc> Any pointers there? as in , libre ELEC, KODI, plex, etc.
[12:38] <[Saint]> One does all my storage and RAID needs, the other is a computational and development beast, and there's yet another still that does all my network control/distribution and firewall.
[12:39] <HrdwrBoB> I've used Kodi
[12:39] <MiningInc> and what about content? should I just host it locally (where I am ) and have them setup to connect to me and serve them whatever they need.
[12:39] <[Saint]> MiningInc: LibreELEC, by far and away.
[12:39] <MiningInc> I have been really wanting to setup a server
[12:39] <HrdwrBoB> that's the easiest way
[12:39] <[Saint]> LibreELEC 'Just Works', and is very highly extensible.
[12:39] <MiningInc> and this is a perfect project that covers many bases
[12:40] <MiningInc> I have 0 exp. with any of those platforms. So trying to get a bit of feedback before trying to start learning one/which would work best for that type of application.
[12:40] <[Saint]> Depending on how moral you are regarding procurement of DRM-stripped or otherwise unlicensed/redistributed content, we can move to private message at some stage if you like.
[12:41] <[Saint]> You and your parents can stream _ALL THE THINGS_.
[12:41] <HrdwrBoB> tbh
[12:41] <HrdwrBoB> I used to download lots of content
[12:41] <HrdwrBoB> now I am lazy and just use netflix and chromecast
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[12:42] <[Saint]> Well, my point is that everything on Netflix is available at the same quality with verbatim rips and a very nice EPG-styple heads-up-display on LibreELEC/Kodi, if you know where to look for it.
[12:42] <MiningInc> haha my morals for such things are elastic ;-)
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[12:43] <[Saint]> Depending on your individual views regarding content aquisition and morality.
[12:43] <MiningInc> HrdwrBoB I am not satisfied with netflix only though
[12:43] <MiningInc> I have netflix, hulu, hbo, showtime, amazon prime, etc. BUT still want other content.
[12:44] <MiningInc> but my parents don't know how to use any of this stuff the way it's currently offered to them
[12:45] <MiningInc> They (most people) need an all in one stop. Which is why I want to do the media server for them and myself too
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[12:46] <[Saint]> well...all that content is available via a LibreELEC add-on that I may or may not have definitely just PMed you.
[12:46] <MiningInc> Otherwise they are going to spend 100 USD or whatever for an Apple TV or something and further contribute to that companies awfulness (another subject lol) BUT also be locked down with whatever proprietary apps/content that APPL offers/has rights for
[12:47] <MiningInc> [Saint] the saint ;)
[12:47] <[Saint]> also every major motion picture known to man.
[12:47] <[Saint]> think of it as essentially like Reddit for streaming content.
[12:47] <MiningInc> sold on libreELEC now too lol
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[12:47] <[Saint]> A link aggregator for several dozen major questionable streaming sites.
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[12:48] <[Saint]> with a very professional EPG-stype display.
[12:48] <[Saint]> You basically search for and click on what you want to watch, and it scraped hundreds of sources to finf the best quality with the fastest throughput and response time and serves it to you.
[12:49] <[Saint]> there's also things like subtitle download, trakt tv watchlist sync, imdb integration, etc.
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[12:50] <[Saint]> so you can have a local or remote synced watchlist database, local or remote playlists and subtitles, etc.
[12:50] <MiningInc> so this interface is simple enough for even a couple old timers to be able to 'handle' once it's all setup/configured
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[12:50] <[Saint]> Yes. If they can use their television EPG currently, they can use this.
[12:51] <MiningInc> I like the streaming aspect too.. then I don't have to host all the content they want...hell I won't have to store my own stuff.
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[12:51] <[Saint]> LibreELEC even does CEC passthrough so if they have a CEC enabled television and the pi is connected via HDMI they can use their existing television remote to control it.
[12:52] <[Saint]> for Rpi I recommend http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=269814 - even though it is bleeding edge it is stable enough for Joe User and there are very marked improvements over the LibreELEC releases.
[12:52] <MiningInc> friggin A
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[12:52] <[Saint]> Though for safeties sake you might want to stick with the LibreELEC Beta release.
[12:53] <[Saint]> https://libreelec.tv/downloads/preview/
[12:53] <MiningInc> Thanks for all the info/links.
[12:54] <[Saint]> If you end up doing this for yourself, it is useful to note thaqt LibreELEC from the etst builds I linked above has libretro integration.
[12:54] <[Saint]> So you can install the Internet Archive ROM Launcher and play all the classic games from your childhood.
[12:55] <[Saint]> MAME (arcade), SNES, Genesis, Master System, FB Alpha, Commodore 64, ...etc. etc.
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[12:56] <[Saint]> IARL automagically downloads the ROM from the Internet Archive and suggests an emulator and controller wrapper to install from LibreELEC add-ons.
[12:57] <[Saint]> Ideally you'd use a spare Playstation 3 controller over bluetooth, they pair with LE and make great retrogaming controllers for just about any platform.
[12:57] <MiningInc> NO WAY!
[12:57] <[Saint]> Way. :)
[12:57] <MiningInc> my buddy has an epic collection of MAME roms
[12:58] <[Saint]> Internet Archive has....all of them.
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[12:58] <MiningInc> like pretty much everything ever made. Going ot have to reach him
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[12:58] <MiningInc> well even better then.. I know how to get hold of them ;-)
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[12:59] <[Saint]> Nah, just use IARL. It's basically like the streaming add-on I mentioned earlier, but legal.
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[12:59] <MiningInc> what is the learning curve on all this?
[12:59] <MiningInc> is it all CLI or done through a GUI
[12:59] <[Saint]> All of those ROMs are public domain these days.
[12:59] <[Saint]> It's all GUI.
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[12:59] <[Saint]> Everything is very much akin to a smart TV interface.
[12:59] <MiningInc> True, been so so long.... It seem like yesterday the arcade was the place to be. lol
[13:00] <[Saint]> It is designed to be very simplistic and easy to use.
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[13:00] <ekarlso> Hi, any of you done building of docker containers for rpi using alpine ?
[13:00] <MiningInc> My parents are going to love me for this
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[13:00] <MiningInc> docker is in the to--do list also... Seems pretty important/useful to know
[13:00] <gordonDrogon> alpine is an email program...
[13:00] <ekarlso> gordonDrogon: .... no
[13:00] * [Saint] enjoys being a LE Evangelist, even if some of the add-ons he suggests for people are legally and/or morally questionable.
[13:00] <ekarlso> alpine linux
[13:01] <[Saint]> Though that legality varies wildly by locale.
[13:01] <gordonDrogon> I've been using alpine under Linux for 4 or 5 years and pine under linux and unix for 20 years before that.
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[13:01] <[Saint]> Here in my locale streaming is pretty much legally protected.
[13:01] <gordonDrogon> if someone else has decided to re-use the name, then more fool them )-:
[13:01] <[Saint]> There's an odd legal distinction between streaming and downloading.
[13:01] * MiningInc likes people who are willing to suggest legally/morally questionable sources/content/platforms. It's what makes the web go round :)
[13:02] <[Saint]> If I wasn't in a very care free locality I'm not sure how I'd feel about it.
[13:02] <[Saint]> Even if you're not personally...VPNs are cheap.
[13:03] <MiningInc> I do know this much and hence the preference to setup a streaming media server for them. vs a media server that is serving up content being physically hosted by those attached to the network. lol
[13:03] <[Saint]> Realistically the law is more interested in targeting uploaders and redistributors.
[13:03] <MiningInc> yeah.. I have been using PIA for 2 years now.. and am gettin real sick of using it over Windows
[13:03] <[Saint]> Not casual downloaders/streamers.
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[13:03] <[Saint]> They want to cut the head off the snake. Not pick off a few scales.
[13:03] <MiningInc> It is so so much less a hassle to keep running/using with network manager on linux
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[13:04] <MiningInc> Exactly, they are not interested in the consumer. They want the suppliers
[13:04] <MiningInc> so I want to avoid being one of those middle men in the supply route
[13:04] <MiningInc> lol
[13:04] <[Saint]> Fair.
[13:05] <MiningInc> but if the contents already floating around, and does not require my seeding to enjoy it... Well why not stream said content.
[13:06] <[Saint]> My telco knows damn well what's up, too. They all but facillitate it.
[13:07] <[Saint]> My telco offers a "global mode", which they /claim/ is for "overseas guests to access their subscription services from abroad".
[13:07] <MiningInc> I just don't get how they (content suppliers) are avoiding detection these days. I delete 40% of torrents I start based on the 'sources' of the seeder. Especially when you consider how easy it is for anyone to 'seed' for the sake of tracking whose coming to the table
[13:07] <[Saint]> But it is essentially just a global interactive VPN baked into my connection for free.
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[13:07] <MiningInc> yea PIA was hooking that up until about 4-6 months ago.
[13:08] <[Saint]> I log in to the web interface of my account and select what country I want my connection to appear as.
[13:08] <MiningInc> then all the IP's started getting flagged and couldn't use with netflix/hulu etc. anymore
[13:08] <[Saint]> They got some pretty harsh criticism from every other ISP/regulatory body for that.
[13:08] <MiningInc> wanna pm me that telco
[13:08] <[Saint]> But they pretty much just threw up two fingers in the air and advised people to sit on them.
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[13:32] <Hanonim> is there a way to change the i2c baudrate ?
[13:34] <MiningInc> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=100923
[13:34] <MiningInc> for Rpi2?
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[13:35] <Hanonim> for instance
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[13:49] <ali1234> hey Gadgetoid
[13:49] <ali1234> let's talk about things
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[14:20] <bhofidika> Hello help me I have a pi 3 and I want to use it as SSH on a monitor ?
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[14:23] <oq> bhofidika: hi
[14:23] <bhofidika> hwllo
[14:23] <bhofidika> Forget above line,
[14:23] <oq> forgotten
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[14:24] <bhofidika> I have a Pi3 model B which have memory card inside it. My problem is I also have a montor(which have VGA) but raspberry pi accepts HDMI. And I don't have VGA to HDMI this time. How to run pi on my monitor then ?
[14:25] <bhofidika> *VGA to HDMI convertor
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[14:27] <bhofidika> Since the monitor is old and dpesn't have WiFi or bluetooth, I can't use SSH.
[14:27] <bhofidika> *doesn't
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[14:27] <oq> bhofidika: I don't think you can without an adaptor
[14:27] <oq> they aren't that expensive nowadays though
[14:28] <bhofidika> I have adaptor to run pi.
[14:28] <bhofidika> But the problem is about connectivity.
[14:28] <bhofidika> From where to control it?
[14:28] <leftyfb> bhofidika: you do not need a monitor in order to ssh into your pi
[14:29] <bhofidika> Then ?
[14:29] <leftyfb> bhofidika: https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/remote-access/ssh/
[14:29] <leftyfb> bhofidika: follow the instructions at the bottom in order to enable ssh
[14:29] <leftyfb> bhofidika: then connect your pi to the network and ssh to the pi
[14:30] <bhofidika> leftyfb, How to connect ?
[14:30] <bhofidika> I can't access terminal
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[14:31] <oq> bhofidika: you need an additional computer to ssh from into the pi
[14:31] <bhofidika> Yes, I don't have one
[14:31] <bhofidika> The thing I only have is monitor, keyboard and mouse
[14:32] <bhofidika> No CPU
[14:32] <leftyfb> bhofidika: how are you on IRC now if you don't have another computer?
[14:32] <bhofidika> I am sitting in my friend's house right now and using his laptop
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[14:32] <bhofidika> Ans asking solution for my home.
[14:32] <leftyfb> bhofidika: then you are out of luck
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[14:32] <bhofidika> lol
[14:34] <leftyfb> not sure how you expected to use a computer without a display or another computer to connect to it remotely
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[14:34] <bhofidika> But, I have a display device.
[14:34] <bhofidika> Monitor
[14:35] <leftyfb> let me rephrase that
[14:35] <leftyfb> not sure how you expected to use a computer without a compatible display or another computer to connect to it remotely
[14:35] <leftyfb> https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B016VS5EJ6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[14:35] <leftyfb> I use those
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[14:36] <shauno> you're going to need an adaptor. simple as that. the Pi offers hdmi and composite. if you have neither, you'll need to adapt.
[14:39] <bhofidika> Ok I will buy one
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[14:40] <bhofidika> Ok can i control the same monitor with my pc's mouse and keyboard ?
[14:40] <bhofidika> I will take pc from my friend for some days.
[14:40] <shauno> assuming they're usb, they'll just plug into the pi
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[14:40] <bhofidika> shauno, Mouse and keyboard are on CPU (friend' PC)
[14:41] <bhofidika> are inserted in CPU
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[14:42] <bhofidika> And I want to control PI with the same mouse and keyboard. Is it possible ?
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[14:56] <Chocolophophora> bhofidika: https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/remote-access/
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[15:31] <MiningInc> Anyone know how to make sense of windows Event Viewer. Or where to look/what logs to figure out what the hell is causing my network adapter failures over and over. 10_ times a day at this point..
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[15:36] <Armand> MiningInc: ##windows
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[16:08] <wolfram74> So i'm entering a bit of a problem
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[16:09] <wolfram74> I'm trying to use kongregate.com on my pi, and I think the game I'm trying to load is too resource intensive, it crashes my pi
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[16:32] <Hanonim> gordonDrogon: did you consider adding some kind of edge detection for analog inputs akin to isr for digital ones ?
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[16:33] <Hanonim> providing the right extension, just as you provided analog read and write
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[16:45] <hlmjr> Has anyone has any success enabling OpenGL via raspi-config on the CM3?
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[17:19] <alexandre9099> hi, i'm trying to connect my raspberry pi with PIXEL to my school network
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[17:19] <alexandre9099> it uses WPA2 EAP-PEAP without certificate
[17:19] <alexandre9099> how can i connect to it?
[17:20] <alexandre9099> got it to work, thanks anyway :)
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[18:40] <exobuzz> https://retropie.org.uk/forum/topic/8279/a-custom-milled-wood-brass-aluminum-pizero-handheld / https://www.instagram.com/diy.engineering/ - want!
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[19:13] <jondot> hello
[19:13] <jondot> I've build an open source project for the raspberry pi. It does some image processing, movement detection and recording of ipcam video
[19:14] <jondot> thing is - it requires OpenCV. this means around 3-5 hours compilation time from anyone who wants to try this project out
[19:14] <leftyfb> jondot: didn't "motion" already do that?
[19:14] <jondot> leftyfb: well, it does but this one is purpose built to track babies
[19:14] <gordonDrogon> Hanonim, hi.
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[19:15] <jondot> anyway long story short - every distribution of opencv i've tried, that is precompiled - either doesn't work, or has memory leaks per the Jessie distro. It left me with no other option but compile my own OpenCV
[19:15] <gordonDrogon> Hanonim, it's not really possible - unless you're using an analog comparitor with an interrupt output. then it's a user problem :)
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[19:16] <jondot> my question is - is there any opencv prebuilt binaries for RPi I have missed? and if not, can I export it from my Pi somehow? and if not --- is this a big deal to "require" from anyone who wants to try out my project to compile OpenCV?
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[19:18] <jondot> i'd also like to know if there's any ARM based system that i can use as a build server perhaps - just for building the opencv package so that i can offer it precompiled
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[19:23] <gordonDrogon> jondot, sudo apt-get install libcv-dev
[19:23] <jondot> yea that doesn't work. the current version for jessie has a memory leak
[19:24] <gordonDrogon> poke the debian people to fix it... ?
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[19:27] <jondot> gordonDrogon: right :)
[19:27] <jondot> well, i think i'm going to give cross compilation a stab
[19:27] <gordonDrogon> are you sure the latest version has fixed the leak?
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[19:45] <jondot> gordonDrogon: yes, it took me a week to rule out every possible thing, and pull out a considerable amount of hair
[19:45] <jondot> i'm a million percent sure
[19:46] <gordonDrogon> good luck with the compile.
[19:46] <jondot> there's no latest version, just 2.4.9, for some reason debian devs decided to make their own version, and introduce a nasty leak - that of course is subtle enough to bite you when you don't expect it
[19:46] <gordonDrogon> there are various cross compiler projects out there though - if it's a big compile you might be able to do it on your desktop (if desktop isn't a Pi!)
[19:46] <jondot> yup, i'm trying out some docker images now that have a toolchain already
[19:47] <gordonDrogon> debian traditionally sticks with the same version and back-ports bug fixes, etc.
[19:47] <jondot> obviously it's a mountain of pre-existing knowledge i need to have and a bunch of configuration, but i'll trust what ever they got
[19:47] <gordonDrogon> (for the life of a particular debian release)
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[19:49] <gordonDrogon> I know of a few people using opencv on the Pi - wonder how they get round the memory leak..
[19:49] <jondot> yea, i was hoping by the time the project is release-ready, this bug would be fixed and i wouldn't have to force my users to build opencv from source
[19:49] <gordonDrogon> one has a robot that chases a ball - although it's all in python and a bit slow ...
[19:49] <jondot> gordonDrogon: i bet not all of them run an agent 24/7 that builds an mp4 video on the fly
[19:49] <gordonDrogon> possibly not...
[19:50] <jondot> the bug is where opencv will write a frame to disk, through videowriter, then through its video compression stack. parts of that frame aren't released
[19:51] <jondot> it leaks around 100kB/hour for my case
[19:51] <jondot> anyway, fired off a build in one of those cross-build dockers. we'll see what happens
[19:51] <hlmjr> jondot, I use qemu-static and a chroot to compile for arm on a more powerful x86 platform.
[19:52] <jondot> specifically i'm using this: https://github.com/philipz/raspberry-pi-crosscompile
[19:53] <jondot> hlmjr: got a reference link for how to set it up? (for humans?)
[19:54] <hlmjr> https://blog.night-shade.org.uk/2013/12/building-a-pure-debian-armhf-rootfs/ Cha ching
[19:57] <jondot> hlmjr: thanks. im wondering if this will also work to compile opencv http://hackaday.com/2016/09/01/how-to-use-docker-to-cross-compile-for-raspberry-pi-and-more/
[19:57] <jondot> in that docker image's case, that shell is a raspberypi-like system?
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[19:57] <jondot> meanwhile - looks like crossbuild has workd!
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[20:05] <Wizard> Hmm, mate++
[20:05] <Wizard> Way better then default desktop :P
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[20:08] * gordonDrogon runs xfce4 ...
[20:09] <Wizard> It's fine, too
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[20:09] <gordonDrogon> run it on my desktop, laptops and Pi's .
[20:09] <Wizard> :)
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[20:10] <gordonDrogon> dull, but principle of least surprise ...
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[20:17] <ShanShen> Anyone using the new VNC Connect yet? https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/get-back-to-my-pi-from-anywhere-with-vnc-connect/
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[20:23] <BurtyB> ShanShen, it makes me sad so no
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[20:25] <gzuh> hey, does anyone know how to output audio to the headphone jack on raspbian? i'm not trying to change the default away from hdmi, just set it manually for mplayer or mpv or something
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[20:28] <leftyfb> gzuh: you could look at raspi-config to see what it does when you configure it
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[20:55] <pwillard> I might just try it tonight ShanShen
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[20:58] <ShanShen> Me too, pwillard .
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[21:38] <zleap> hi
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[22:54] <theShirbiny> Hello, anyone tried Raspberry Pi with the GPS Module? I have some questions
[22:55] <theShirbiny> how would the module be exposed to the OS, and how would you consume the data
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[22:58] <H__> theShirbiny: use gpsd daemon
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[22:58] <theShirbiny> H__: it'll automatically collect data from the gps module?
[22:59] <H__> it tries to, yes. Then use any program to get the data from the daemon, this may even be over the network
[23:00] <theShirbiny> it'm imagining, gps module -> gpsd -> python library that consumes this data
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[23:00] <H__> yep
[23:00] <theShirbiny> ah, thank you H__, do you have any gps modules recommendations?
[23:00] <H__> you mean hardware wise ?
[23:00] <theShirbiny> yes
[23:02] <H__> not really, I have a few gps receivers. the newer ones tend to get a 3D lock faster than their older cousins ;-) And some also see other 3D positioning satellites than just the GPS ones which of course makes them more accurate and even faster
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[23:04] <theShirbiny> I have found this https://www.cooking-hacks.com/gps-module-for-arduino
[23:05] <theShirbiny> but looks really expensive if i wanted to buy many of them
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[23:05] <theShirbiny> "Availability: Retired" -_-
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[23:17] <Nia> Hi. Trying to upgrade from wheezy to jessie and I'm getting a message from udev saying that my current kernel is not compatible with the current version of udev
[23:17] <Nia> errr
[23:17] <Nia> kernel*
[23:18] <Nia> wait. I had that right
[23:19] <Nia> I upgraded the raspberrypi-bootloader package to the latest version
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[23:19] <Nia> So it *should* work
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[23:19] <Nia> Because that contains the kernel
[23:20] <Nia> It says if I force the update of udev, it will break my system :/
[23:20] <Nia> What do>?
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[23:27] <MajorGrub> Hi guys. Is it true Pi 3 cannot be used as USB gadget ? (mount as mass storage) ?
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[23:28] <GenteelBen> Anything is possible if you believe in yourself, MajorGrub.
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[23:28] <MajorGrub> GenteelBen: Not the answer I was looking for but…
[23:28] <MajorGrub> ; P
[23:29] <GenteelBen> You're French?
[23:30] <MajorGrub> Why ?
[23:30] <hmoney-> im pretty sure only the zero and model A can do the usb gadget stuffz
[23:31] <hmoney-> might only be for usb-otg though
[23:32] <GenteelBen> MajorGrub: do you know why Paris only has one major football team?
[23:32] <GenteelBen> London has like 20 in the top four divisions.
[23:33] <MajorGrub> hmoney-: still didnt get what OTG is all about
[23:33] <GenteelBen> OTG was a short-lived fad.
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[23:33] <GenteelBen> It meant you could use an adaptor to connect a USB stick to your micro-USB device and browse the storage.
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[23:37] <hmoney-> ?
[23:37] <hmoney-> usb otg allowed you to create an 'on the go' device that shared networking from the host computer and gave you a full linux computer the size of a flash drive
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[23:38] <GenteelBen> "Use of USB OTG allows those devices to switch back and forth between the roles of host and device. " That's all USB OTG does.
[23:39] <GenteelBen> It makes USB behave like FireWire.
[23:39] <GenteelBen> i.e. you essentially have two devices which can access each other.
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[23:39] <GenteelBen> But the most common application was mounting USB storage in a tablet/phone with no SD card slot.
[23:39] <shauno> in the pi context, it's nowhere near dead. it's what lets you use the pizero as an ethernet device
[23:40] <shauno> (eg, the zero pretends to be a usb-device instead of a usb-host, presenting itself as an ethernet adaptor to the host)
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[23:41] <hmoney-> after googling a bit genteelben you're describing the "Mass storage (g_mass_storage)" part of usb-otg
[23:41] <hmoney-> the pi can do quite a few different types of usb-otg including g_ether (which is what i was talking about)
[23:43] <shauno> it sounds to me like he's describing the otg functionality on phones. which is essentially the same idea, but much more limited functionality
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[23:54] <MajorGrub> so hmoney- I can mount Pi 3 as mass storage with g_mass_stirage ?
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