#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2017-02-18

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[0:07] <hmoney-> negative
[0:08] <hmoney-> you could do a network share though
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[0:17] <cnnx> are the GPIO pins on the rpi 2 and rpi3 the same?
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[0:28] <cnnx> what are some things i can try on my rpi 3b
[0:28] <cnnx> i just got it yesterday and installed raspbian
[0:28] <cnnx> im ssh'ed into it
[0:28] <cnnx> is there programs specific to raspbian
[0:28] <cnnx> i can explore?
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[0:36] <hmoney-> yeah
[0:36] <hmoney-> the wolfram stuff
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[0:36] <cnnx> should i just google it?
[0:37] <BurtyB> google + half a lifetime to learn it and you should be sorted ;)
[0:37] <hmoney-> ^^
[0:37] <cnnx> hey BurtyB
[0:37] <BurtyB> yo
[0:37] <oq> cnnx: nmap is my favourite
[0:38] <cnnx> oq: thats a standard utility
[0:38] <oq> my 2nd favourite would probably be iperf3
[0:38] <cnnx> those are just network tools
[0:38] <cnnx> how are they specific to the rpi3?
[0:38] <oq> there is nothing specific to the rpi3
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[0:38] <cnnx> oh ok
[0:39] <cnnx> so what can i do with it
[0:39] <oq> raspbian is just a modified debian
[0:39] <oq> and debian is everywhere
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[0:52] <RoyK> hi all. fiddling with i2c, I see the docs tell me I should see /dev/i2c-0 and /dev/i2c-1 - I see only the former - is this correct?
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[0:53] <clever> RoyK: i think the i2c-1 bus is specialy reserved for the hat stuff now
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[0:54] <RoyK> what stuff?
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[0:56] <clever> RoyK: the hat stuff reverses one of the i2c bus's for a hat ID eeprom, that defines how to auto-configure the hardware on the gpio header
[0:56] <clever> so you can just plug a board in and it works
[0:57] <RoyK> ah - nothing I'd need, then, I guess
[0:57] * RoyK is just trying to send some data between an arduino and a pi
[0:58] <RoyK> arduino doing sensor stuff - pi doing app stuff
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[1:38] <manuelschneid3r> is it normal that raspistill takes 43s to take a picture with 6 s shutterspeed
[1:39] <oq> probably not
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[1:44] <manuelschneid3r> what can I do to fix this?
[1:44] <manuelschneid3r> how can I debug it?
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[1:51] <oq> manuelschneid3r: this is with --ss 6000000 ?
[1:51] <manuelschneid3r> yes
[1:52] <manuelschneid3r> time raspistill -n -q 90 -w 1296 -h 972 -ex night -ISO 1600 -ss 6000000 -o $DEST/$DATE.jpg
[1:52] <manuelschneid3r> real 0m43.307s
[1:52] <manuelschneid3r> user 0m0.010s
[1:52] <manuelschneid3r> sys 0m0.020s
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[1:54] <manuelschneid3r> omitting all but -ss params and writing to tmpfs does not change anything
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[1:55] <manuelschneid3r> wow its late, i'm off now, however thank yout oq
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[2:11] <cnnx> GreeningGalaxy: hi
[2:11] <cnnx> GreeningGalaxy: how are you today?
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[3:13] <GreeningGalaxy> cnnx: okay, I'm at Argonne and staring at numbers go around on a screen while a giant machine makes numbers with electrons and magnets
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[3:23] <SpeedEvil> numbers, how do they work.
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[3:55] <maicod> Hi I'm reading an article telling me how to let the Rpi V3 boot from USB but it changes 'OTP one-time programmable memory'. does it mean I can never change the setting back to boot from SD ?
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[5:09] <martin290> can someone here help me configure my apache server?
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[7:17] <DannyFritz> Has anyone done a wifi adhoc configuration setup for a raspberry pi? Like where you connect to it as a wireless access point, configure it to your home network wifi and then restart it and let it connect to your internet from there?
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[7:26] * DannyFritz ooo https://github.com/jasbur/RaspiWiFi
[7:29] <chra94> ahoy, nope. what'd be the benefit?
[7:29] <chra94> for those who know less than you
[7:31] <DannyFritz> basically i want to create a consumer device with a raspberry pi. but it needs to connect to a consumer's home wifi network. They need to be able to do it without connecting up computer peripherals
[7:31] <DannyFritz> so if they can connect their phone to the rpi adhoc wifi either via the phone wifi settings or through an app, tell the rpi to connect to your home wifi, and it is now on the internet
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[7:32] <DannyFritz> chromecasts operate this way
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[8:04] <Chillum> DannyFritz: there are ways to scan wifi when in access point mode
[8:04] <Chillum> the rest is easy
[8:04] <DannyFritz> i was poking around that github repo and seeing some things that are pretty key to doing it
[8:05] <DannyFritz> i don't think running a Ruby on Rails app is the best idea, but lots of good stuff there
[8:05] <Chillum> it seems like something there should be a turnkey solution to
[8:05] <Chillum> I know there is something like that for the esp8266 microcontroller
[8:05] <DannyFritz> https://github.com/jasbur/RaspiWiFi/blob/master/Configuration%20App/app/models/main.rb#L4
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[13:22] <RedNifre> My pi3 froze and when I restart it now the screen remains black (but it seems to send a signal because the "no signal" message of the screen disappears). I can still login via ssh though. How can I debug this?
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[13:27] <H__> no clue, none of my PI's have a screen connected.
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[13:29] <bub_> RedNifre: check with logs in /var/log and see if you can find anything there
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[13:53] <theorem> quick q ...
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[13:54] <theorem> I am having somre truble getting a 2.5A 5V charger in a remote location -- will a 2.4A 5V charger be OK ?
[13:55] <mlelstv> probably
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[13:56] <chra94_> probably
[13:56] <mlelstv> the pi won't need it and 2.5A is the max you could use regularly together with connected devices (hats, USB dongles, ...)
[13:56] <mlelstv> so 2.4A will be slightly limiting :)
[13:57] <theorem> I am also driving the official 7" screen
[13:57] <mlelstv> no problem
[13:57] <mlelstv> saying that, cheap chinaware often promises more than it delivers. The 2.4A should be real 2.4A :)
[13:58] <theorem> yeah ---
[13:58] <chra94_> Å
[13:58] <chra94_> ^
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[14:17] <gordonDrogon> good aftermorning, Pi pips.
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[14:22] <Encrypt> Good aftermorning gordonDrogon :p
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[14:40] <chra94_> o/
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[15:24] <redsPL> o/
[15:25] <redsPL> can anyone give me a dd image of his/hers /boot partition from rpi?
[15:25] <redsPL> i'll be grateful!
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[15:30] <manuelschneid3r> hmmmm
[15:30] <manuelschneid3r> wouldn do that :D
[15:31] <manuelschneid3r> get the official image and mount it
[15:31] <gordonDrogon> a dd image isn't that wise - partition sizes may not be identical...
[15:32] <leftyfb> redsPL: why do you need that as opposed to from the original image?
[15:32] <redsPL> yeah, that is an option, but zip with the image is currently on a hdd that was connected to the pi.. and that hdd is on the shelf... and i odn't want to take it down..
[15:32] <redsPL> leftyfb, something broke my bootloader, i get 8 ACT blinks
[15:32] <leftyfb> redsPL: so download a new image and extract the files from the boot partition
[15:33] <manuelschneid3r> "time raspistill -ss 6000000 -o $DEST/$DATE.jpg" takes 0m43.307s. What can I do to make it faster?
[15:33] <redsPL> yeah, i can do that, but it will take ages... ok, going to get that hdd off the shelf..
[15:33] <redsPL> i just thought that someone will be generous enough to give me that image ;P
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[15:34] <redsPL> (btw, already checked - fortunately, that's only bootloader's issue, not a pi issue, and probably not an sdcard issue)
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[15:37] <leftyfb> manuelschneid3r: you have your shutter speed at 6 seconds. That would help
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[15:38] <manuelschneid3r> thats intended I want to take night pictures. but raspistill runs 43 seconds, not 6.
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[15:38] <leftyfb> manuelschneid3r: maybe try to save to a different filesystem
[15:38] <manuelschneid3r> tries tmpfs already
[15:38] <manuelschneid3r> its not an sdcard issue
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[15:39] <leftyfb> manuelschneid3r: which model pi?
[15:39] <manuelschneid3r> 3b
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[15:39] <leftyfb> then there's probably not much you can do
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[15:40] <manuelschneid3r> is this a raspistill bug?
[15:40] <manuelschneid3r> why is the model relevatnt
[15:40] <leftyfb> 's/bug/limitation/
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[15:40] <manuelschneid3r> what kind of limitation
[15:41] <leftyfb> it's looking like it's a limitation of the capabilities of the pi/raspistill to take the picture, process it and write it
[15:44] <leftyfb> manuelschneid3r: i'm curious if you take a day picture with a typical shutter speed, if you'll improve the speed by more than 6 seconds
[15:44] <leftyfb> maybe it takes longer to process a night picture than it does a day picture
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[15:46] <profrick> hello from the noob
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[15:47] <profrick> wondering how to see all of the pi's on a network without installing bunch of stuff...anyone want to take a swing
[15:48] <leftyfb> profrick: it's not that easy
[15:48] <profrick> ok...what about IP addys or mac addys?
[15:49] <leftyfb> profrick: you could start by scanning the network for mac address's that match the broadcom chipset in the pi, but if someone plugs in a usb or ethernet wifi adapter you're out of luck
[15:49] <profrick> I can see them from the mac box, but I'm trying to get away from that crutch...
[15:49] <profrick> ok..so I got here...I guess I can scan some ip addys any suggests
[15:49] <profrick> on how
[15:49] <leftyfb> nmap
[15:50] <profrick> is that native or is it install
[15:50] <leftyfb> install
[15:50] <leftyfb> on a mac
[15:50] <leftyfb> native to some linux distros
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[15:50] <profrick> jessie?
[15:50] <leftyfb> not native
[15:50] <profrick> from the pi
[15:50] <leftyfb> but easily installed
[15:51] <profrick> ok...
[15:51] <profrick> thx I'll give it a whirl..
[15:51] <leftyfb> you could also try arp
[15:51] <leftyfb> but arp won't always find everything on the network
[15:51] <leftyfb> unless you're on a monitoring port on a managed switch
[15:51] <leftyfb> or you're the gateway
[15:51] <profrick> arpscan? also install on jessie?
[15:51] <leftyfb> or you ping every ip address
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[15:52] <leftyfb> arp-scan isn't installed by default either
[15:52] <profrick> ok...with all that said...any suggests on other fun things to show a bunch of kiddies specific to simple network stuffs...
[15:52] <leftyfb> python
[15:53] <leftyfb> using the GPIO's
[15:53] <leftyfb> wolfram alpha
[15:53] <leftyfb> minecraft
[15:53] <leftyfb> scratch
[15:53] <leftyfb> http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/how-to/desktop-pc/10-great-raspberry-pi-projects-for-kids-3589952/
[15:53] <leftyfb> look on google
[15:54] <leftyfb> also should probably only stick with teaching/demo'ing things you already know enough about
[15:54] <profrick> yep yep all good...but for starters, I'm thinking of hiding the pis on a switch and letting them ssh in from a lab...and start from linux basics...
[15:54] <profrick> most of these kids have no idea about command prompt
[15:54] <leftyfb> if you've got a linux box on the network, don't even need to do that. You could create containers
[15:55] <profrick> listening...
[15:55] <leftyfb> I think it would go over better if each kid setup their own pi and started on the command line from there
[15:55] <leftyfb> if you're interested in getting them into the pi, more than just linux, then go with my last suggestion
[15:55] <leftyfb> if it's linux-only, then it's easier/cheaper to just do linux containers using lxc
[15:55] <profrick> right, agreed...but given the situation, windows lab, physically locked down monitors and cabling...ugh...just want to stand them up quickly
[15:56] <profrick> I want them to take the pi home eventuall.
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[15:56] <profrick> but have to start somewhere together...
[15:56] <profrick> can a pi provide containers
[15:56] <leftyfb> not without work
[15:56] <profrick> with lxc
[15:57] <profrick> work/ or install
[15:57] <leftyfb> I don't think accessing a pi remotely from a windows machine when they can't even see the pi is going to get them excited about the raspberry pi at all
[15:58] <profrick> Im not sure thats my issue
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[15:58] <leftyfb> one of the draws for kids about the pi is building and setting up their own computer yourself and building a better understanding about a basic computer
[15:58] <profrick> right but these kids are 18-21...
[15:58] <leftyfb> the way you're going about it is showing them some imaginary place through black terminal on Windows
[15:59] <profrick> and have no clue what is behind the piece of glass they carrry in their purse or pocket
[15:59] <leftyfb> that just makes your job easier of explaining it to them, but doesn't really deny the fact that it works better with the pi dedicated and in front of you
[16:00] <leftyfb> just my opinion from experience btw
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[16:00] <leftyfb> funny thing, is I'm prettymuch building this lab/demos for a raspberry jam i'm holding next month. I'm about to get up and head to the makerspace to build cases and run ethernet for it
[16:01] <leftyfb> yeah, I hate listening to experience as well
[16:01] <leftyfb> :/
[16:02] <leftyfb> I guess any class/instructions will be better than nothing
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[16:08] <profrick> still there leftyfb? dropped off here...
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[16:09] <profrick> if so, I missed your last
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[16:13] <profrick> leftyfb - just read the log...seriously didn't mean to drop off...I hit a ctrl char and dropped off...can you tell me about the jam?
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[16:26] <gordonDrogon> leftyfb, good luck with the jam thing - our local linux user group turned into a "tech jam" with all sorts of stuff now...
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[17:06] <shauno> I've never had much luck with LUGs .. I struggle to understand how they're still "a thing"
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[17:12] <hackal> How long would RPi 3 model B last from this power source? https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/GPS-Batteries/Anker-PowerCore-3350mAh-Aluminum-Portable-Lipstick-Sized-External/B005QI1A8C/
[17:13] <hackal> Do you think it would last at least 2 hours?
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[17:21] <gordonDrogon> hackal, how is your powers of simple arithmetic?
[17:22] <gordonDrogon> shauno, they're only as good as what the people put into them - in my experience. possibly work better in bigger towns/cities too. Here in ruralistan where I live, getting *anything* remotely like something going has proven hard for the past 10 years ....
[17:23] <gordonDrogon> hackal, 3.3 amps in one hour - so say the Pi needs 1 amp, then it will last 3.3 hours.
[17:24] <shauno> I've had both ends. a relatively rural one, which was increasingly difficult to tell apart from any other bunch of old men at a pub. and here, a uni, so it's overrun with children trying to rewrite everything they did in Go last year, or Ruby the year before, in Rust for this year
[17:24] <gordonDrogon> :)
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[17:26] <hackal> gordonDrogon: I see, https://www.pidramble.com/wiki/benchmarks/power-consumption, so 3350mAh/730mA = 4.5890411h
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[17:26] <gordonDrogon> it's just simple arithmetic.
[17:27] <gordonDrogon> that assumes the Pi takes 730mA. in practice it's highly variable - always best to calculate for the worst case.
[17:28] <gordonDrogon> which for the Pi would be 2.5 Amps, however it's hard to make it suck that much with 1.2 amps of usb+gpio peripherals.
[17:28] <GreeningGalaxy> I'll be surprised if you actually get that with a constant 730 mA load, who knows if the battery rating is actually right, or how efficient the regulator is
[17:28] <gordonDrogon> s/with/without/
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[17:31] <ali1234> pi 3 hits about 1100mA under extreme load
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[17:31] <ali1234> then allow 100mA for each USB device which is attached
[17:32] <gordonDrogon> usb has a power budget of 1200mA. the polyfus is rated 2.5a
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[17:32] <ali1234> and you'll never hit that unless you plug in one of those USB soldering irons or something
[17:32] <hackal> Ok, the setup we are going to do is, to have 1x Accelerometer/Gyro (combined) sensor connected through gpio pins and send the data over WiFi to nearby computer.
[17:33] <gordonDrogon> gpio power is direct though. there's no limiter on that - other than the incoming 2.5A polyfuse.
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[17:33] <ali1234> so you will use about 1% CPU and no USB peripherals, and a sensor that uses maybe 5mA
[17:33] <hackal> yeah,
[17:33] <gordonDrogon> hackal, going by the numbers and the utterly trivial arithmetic that my 5 year old niece can do, then yes, that unit will probably work for you.
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[17:34] <ali1234> you should use an ESP8266 instead
[17:35] <shauno> one with to watch for with those batteries, the mAh rating is almost always wrong. most companies (even Anker) give you the rating of the cells - which are typically 3.7v. so you're probably looking at approx 2500mAh at 5v
[17:35] <ali1234> it's one 18650 cell in the link
[17:36] <ali1234> so it will probably be around 2600mAh @ 3.7V
[17:36] <ali1234> after you've used it a couple of time
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[17:38] <shauno> https://de.anker.com/products/A1104011 gives 3350 (as amazon) and 12.06 Wh. 12/5 is 2.4A, not 3.3A
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[17:40] <shauno> more interestingly, it also says 1A out, which is worth paying attention to for a pi
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[17:42] <gordonDrogon> always good to read the fine manual! I have an anker unit with a 2A outlet that powers Pi's just fine.
[17:42] <gordonDrogon> https://projects.drogon.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/b+power.jpg :)
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[17:45] <shauno> yeah, I have one that calls itself 2.1A, which is fine. Anker are pretty good at not being too bare-faced, so if they say 1A for that model, good chance they mean it
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[18:23] <tga> greetings
[18:23] <gordonDrogon> good time of day to you.
[18:23] <tga> any idea whether anyone manufactures really weird format screens?
[18:23] <tga> like a 30 cm / 5 cm screen or similar
[18:24] <gordonDrogon> 30 wide by 5 tall ?
[18:24] <tga> something like that
[18:24] <gordonDrogon> that's ... weird.
[18:24] <tga> a proper screen would be nice, a text only lcd could also work
[18:24] <gordonDrogon> tonnes of text based LED displays - shop window stuff, etc.
[18:25] <gordonDrogon> or make one out of neopixels, etc.
[18:25] <tga> https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzY4WDEwMjQ=/z/KawAAOSwjDZYd8qP/$_57.JPG
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[18:25] <tga> the idea is to replace half of that display
[18:26] <gordonDrogon> you mean the tuner bit?
[18:26] <tga> yes
[18:26] <tga> a rpi or clone is going inside, and I'd like to add a screen
[18:27] <gordonDrogon> interesting project, but I've no idea where to get a display like that.
[18:27] <gordonDrogon> an idea - get a standard display the right width, then cover it up with the speaker grill material and some beading - might have to relocate the speaker though.
[18:27] <tga> yeah not that much room inside
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[18:29] <tga> also a display at that width would be really tal
[18:29] <tga> l
[18:29] <mfa298> I wonder if you'de find something suitable among the various spi displays out there, although you might have to do some driver modifications for them
[18:29] <tga> I could combine like 5 oleds
[18:29] <mfa298> or if it's just for information display could you use 2-3 displays
[18:29] <tga> yeah
[18:29] <gordonDrogon> http://www.ebay.com/itm/5V-Wide-Angle-Black-on-Amber-40x2-Character-LCD-Module-Display-w-Tutorial-/302021537765
[18:29] <tga> kind of a pain
[18:29] <tga> for animations and such
[18:30] <tga> nice seller, I like how they have all sizes
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[18:35] <gordonDrogon> you can upload up to 8 custom characters to that type of display.
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[20:36] <pwillard> Man... I'm realiziong how far we have come... I just rebuilt a device using my original Pi. zzzzzzzzz (wake me up when its done booting)
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[20:46] <gordonDrogon> my Pi1's still boot fairly quickly.
[20:47] <gordonDrogon> that's to command-line login though, no fancy glooy.
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[20:53] <mfa298> agreed, boot on the pi1 is still pretty speedy (although text only)
[20:53] <mfa298> kernel upgrades get a bit slow though
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[21:01] <gordonDrogon> all upgrades are slow )-:
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[21:02] <gordonDrogon> something to do with apt calculating/re-calculating lots of checsums or something - I've not looked in detail.
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[21:14] <theorem> ok, so , I've been thinking
[21:14] <theorem> if I wanted to manage a "fleet" of raspberry pi devices
[21:15] <theorem> and make sure they had the right firmware image, and were running with the right settings
[21:15] <theorem> I would use some kind of orchestration system
[21:15] <theorem> for servers, I would typically choose Puppet
[21:15] <theorem> is there anything better ?
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[21:16] <mfa298> probably what you know. I use chef on my Pi2/Pi3s (not got it going on the Pi1 yet)
[21:16] <mfa298> I'm sure others use thingks like ansible or salt
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[21:17] <theorem> ansible has the drawback of requiring that the server connect *to* the pi
[21:17] <theorem> I'm trying to always establish the connection the other way
[21:17] <theorem> (NAT, etc... )
[21:18] <mfa298> thats partly why I went for chef.
[21:18] <theorem> have you compared Chef and Puppet ?
[21:18] <theorem> Puppet has the free and pay portions of it ...
[21:18] <theorem> I haven't done a great deal of digging though
[21:18] <theorem> are there more advanced features that come "for free" with Chef ?
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[21:19] <mfa298> I think chef is similar.
[21:19] <theorem> oh, same commercial model ?
[21:20] <mfa298> I think you might get some of the authentication bits in chef for free if you run the server yourself
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[21:21] <theorem> ah, I see
[21:22] <theorem> from what I am reading it looks like Puppet Enterprise is the only one that supports token based auth ?
[21:22] <mfa298> from what I understand of chef it creates certificates for each client
[21:22] <theorem> hmm, ok
[21:24] <mfa298> at this point it's potentially down to what you know/prefer as much as anything. unless one of them has something specific you want
[21:24] <theorem> seeing as I know very little about either
[21:24] <theorem> it's going to be down to long term featuresets.
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[21:24] <mfa298> I'm interested in chef-solo (serverless deployment) for a coupel of things which is part of why I went with chef
[21:24] <theorem> Chef seems to be Ruby focused, is that a fair assesment ?
[21:24] <theorem> *assessment
[21:25] <theorem> Puppet seems more ... scripty ? (perl/python?)
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[21:26] <mfa298> chef and puppet are both ruby based.
[21:26] <theorem> ah !
[21:26] <theorem> curses !
[21:26] <theorem> :)
[21:26] <mfa298> a lot of basic stuff in chef is dsl based so you don't need much ruby, but you've got the power of ruby if you want to do interesting things.
[21:27] <mfa298> I'm not sure what puppet is like at that level, I think it's got it's own dsl which might mean less ruby is needed
[21:27] <theorem> hmm, dsl ?
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[21:27] <theorem> d___ scripting language ?
[21:28] <mfa298> domain specific language (I thnk)
[21:28] <theorem> k
[21:29] <theorem> ah, you know what ..
[21:29] <theorem> I have another question.
[21:30] <theorem> I need to develop a web-like touch screen 'app' for the pi.
[21:31] <theorem> given my skills are in web design it seems natural to just fullscreen a browser window on the local display.
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[21:32] <theorem> I'll need to get information delivered to the display ad-hoc ... I was considering just keeping a websocket open to a back-end component to feed the web display when data needs to be delivered.
[21:32] <theorem> is there another pattern I should be investigating ?
[21:33] <mfa298> web-app is probably one way to do it, otherwise you're probably into qt or gtk or one of the other things like that
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[21:33] <theorem> I worry that gtk and qt get really nasty under the covers.
[21:34] <mfa298> if you know your way around web design and the related backend stuff then that's probably a reasonable way to go.
[21:34] <theorem> k
[21:34] <theorem> thanks for the sanity check :)
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[22:45] <girlzgirls> hello all. i seem to be in a predicament...i have a case that comes with a couple heat sinks and a fan. but i want an hdmi display for my model b pi. what should i do??
[22:45] <girlzgirls> heres a pic so u can see
[22:45] <girlzgirls> https://i.imgur.com/3HRrHeu.jpg
[22:45] <girlzgirls> the people who sell the case and fan say i need to use those two pins on the board. but those pins are used for the hdmi board as well...
[22:46] <girlzgirls> is there a work around for this issue?
[22:46] <girlzgirls> can i just plug the fan in anywhere?
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[22:47] <CoJaBo> girlzgirls: ..why are you using a fan?
[22:48] <girlzgirls> because the pi is gonna sit inside that case
[22:48] <CoJaBo> It's a pi, not a pentium 4 lol
[22:48] <girlzgirls> lol well it has little heat sinks :p
[22:49] <CoJaBo> In many cases, heatsinks are overkill
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[22:50] <girlzgirls> https://i.imgur.com/GxHfPgM.png
[22:50] <girlzgirls> see?
[22:50] <girlzgirls> lol
[22:50] <girlzgirls> it looks legit :p
[22:50] <methuzla> heat is red, not cyan
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[22:50] <girlzgirls> its just an illustration
[22:51] <CoJaBo> Also, I can't imagine a reason you'd need a heatsink on the USB hub..
[22:51] <girlzgirls> heat is invisible actually if u want to split hairs lol
[22:51] <brainzap> it makes it faster
[22:51] <CoJaBo> I run my Pi3 as a mediacenter in an unvented case.
[22:51] <mfa298> girlzgirls: which model pi, (1/2/3/zero)
[22:51] <girlzgirls> yeah well i cant leave it open like that
[22:51] <girlzgirls> b model?
[22:51] <girlzgirls> 3?
[22:52] <CoJaBo> No heatsinks, and pi3 is about worse-case in terms of heat. Still runs cool enough to play video :P
[22:52] <mfa298> what are you running on it
[22:52] <girlzgirls> rasbian
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[22:52] <mfa298> most of the time you dont need any heatsink or fan on any pi model
[22:52] <girlzgirls> raspbian
[22:52] <mfa298> i mean what are you using it for?
[22:53] <methuzla> doesn't look like a 3 in image
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[22:53] <mfa298> both of those pictures are 2 or b+
[22:53] <girlzgirls> well i just want to play gif files on it, ive said this before in the channel but i guess those people arent here this time
[22:53] <CoJaBo> girlzgirls: If you're doing something CPU-intensive on the Pi3, especially in an unvented case, one heatsink on the SoC will (probably) make it faster. In pretty much all other cases, you're being ripped off.
[22:53] <girlzgirls> b+ thats what i got
[22:54] <girlzgirls> ill show u exactly what i want to play on it brb
[22:54] <girlzgirls> ill get a link
[22:54] <mfa298> if its a b+ you won;t get it hot enough to need a heatsink
[22:54] <methuzla> easy answer. forget the fan and heatsink.
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[22:54] <Chillum> heat sinks look cool
[22:55] <methuzla> but they let the cyan out
[22:55] <mfa298> the only model that might benefit from heatsink (and possibly fan) in a few circumstances is the pi3
[22:55] <girlzgirls> https://i.imgur.com/fbvd1Go.gif heres a perfect example. can it play this framerate with an hdmi display? the board is gonna be about 3.5 inches
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[22:55] <Chillum> even if a sink is not needed it will still let the chip run cooler and can only help its life span
[22:55] <uniqdom> Hello... in a RPi 3, Are the 4 USB ports shared with ethernet?
[22:55] <Chillum> and they cost what 10 cents?
[22:55] <Chillum> uniqdom: yes
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[22:56] <girlzgirls> so i want the sinks then
[22:57] <girlzgirls> everyones watching the gif lol
[22:57] <Chillum> always nice to have a small pile of heat sinks handy
[22:57] <girlzgirls> thats just one of many i want to play
[22:57] <girlzgirls> ok good
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[22:57] <girlzgirls> i already had them on there
[22:57] <girlzgirls> and the fav will pull the heat off the big heatsink
[22:57] <girlzgirls> fan*
[22:58] <girlzgirls> so do u think i can run gifs like that at that framerate on a small 3.5 hdmi board?
[22:58] <uniqdom> I'm getting like 8.8 MB/s for write speed in a external USB HDD. My SD has a 10MB/s for write speed. The same HDD connected to a USB2.0 port in my laptop gives near to 30MB/s. I'm using the same Y cable (data + power) in my Rpi and in my laptop.
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[22:59] <mfa298> girlzgirls: for a B+ a heatsink is going to just be a waste of money and a fan even more so. You probably can't get it anywjere near hot enough that you'll reduce its useful life
[22:59] <uniqdom> What could be my issue?
[22:59] <girlzgirls> its ok, it was so dirt cheap and i like the look
[22:59] <girlzgirls> it has aesthetic value
[23:00] <CoJaBo> girlzgirls: For a B+, the fan motor may well put out more heat than the Pi
[23:00] <Chillum> uniqdom: you are probably hitting the usb bus speed limits of the pi
[23:00] <Chillum> it is not a high performance system
[23:01] <girlzgirls> brb
[23:01] <CoJaBo> girlzgirls: If you have trouble playing that gif on a Pi, try converting it to MP4/h.264
[23:01] <uniqdom> so, basically all HDD will work at the same speed?
[23:01] <Chillum> at a max speed yes
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[23:07] <girlzgirls> CoJaBo, if i convert it then the pixels will lose sharpness
[23:09] <uniqdom> Chillum: there might be something in my setup, because this guy seems to be getting more than 30MB/s for write speed with his externals hdds in his Rpi 2, http://www.mikronauts.com/raspberry-pi/raspberry-pi-2-usb-hard-drive-and-adapter-tests/2/
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[23:44] <cnnx> GreeningGalaxy: hi
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[23:54] <GreeningGalaxy> hi cnnx
[23:55] <GreeningGalaxy> sorry I didn't see you ten minutes ago, I was riding a trike around the storage ring
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