#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2017-02-23

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[0:02] * Flynnn (~textual@unaffiliated/flynnn) Quit (Quit: Auf Wiedersehen!)
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[0:14] * mgottschlag (~quassel@reactos/tester/phoenix64) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
[0:14] * DrJ (~DrJ@bacon.bacon.mooo.com) Quit (Disconnected by services)
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[0:14] * DrJ_f is now known as DrJ
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[0:25] * exobuzz (~buzz@cpc69064-oxfd26-2-0-cust48.4-3.cable.virginm.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[0:27] <saint_> found the solution. thanks for the help
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[0:31] * Mikelevel (~MoVeWoRk@unaffiliated/mikelevel) Quit (Quit: Mikelevel)
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[0:38] * DrJ_l is now known as DrJ
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[0:49] * Flynnn (~textual@unaffiliated/flynnn) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
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[0:50] * GreeningGalaxy (~ellie@2620:0:2250:101c:56a:a376:7163:50ff) Quit (Quit: WeeChat 1.7)
[0:51] * svm_invictvs (~patrick@unaffiliated/svminvictvs/x-938456) has joined #raspberrypi
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[0:53] <KalibRx> Hello :d
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[1:00] * IT_Sean (~quassel@applefritter/IRCStaff) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
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[1:03] * Mikelevel (~BiGwOrK@unaffiliated/mikelevel) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
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[1:05] * malachi (~malconten@96-40-148-141.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
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[1:06] * doomlord (~textual@host86-176-242-250.range86-176.btcentralplus.com) Quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)
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[1:08] * Valduare (~Valduare@97-94-35-98.static.ftbg.wi.charter.com) has joined #raspberrypi
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[1:11] * Flynnn (~textual@unaffiliated/flynnn) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
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[1:12] * Mikelevel (~BiGwOrK@unaffiliated/mikelevel) Quit (Client Quit)
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[1:15] * Soaked (~Soaked@unaffiliated/soaked) Quit (Client Quit)
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[1:20] * dj_pi (~dj@c-68-43-191-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[1:21] * RaTTuS|BIG (~RaTTuSBIG@37.152-253-62.static.virginmediabusiness.co.uk) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[1:24] * RaTTuS|BIG (~RaTTuSBIG@37.152-253-62.static.virginmediabusiness.co.uk) has joined #raspberrypi
[1:24] * ChanServ sets mode +o RaTTuS|BIG
[1:24] * ChanServ sets mode -o RaTTuS|BIG
[1:24] * doomlord (~textual@host86-176-242-250.range86-176.btcentralplus.com) has joined #raspberrypi
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[1:30] * b3eKe3per (~be3Ke3per@unaffiliated/b3eke3per) has joined #raspberrypi
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[1:58] * [SLB]` is now known as [SLB]
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[2:30] <janof> I'm looking for to use my pi, with a small screen, to feed me updates from social media (twitter) and maybe IRC .. any thoughts or suggestions? Any images / distros built just for this?
[2:30] * Flynnn (~textual@unaffiliated/flynnn) Quit (Quit: Auf Wiedersehen!)
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[2:45] <Sonny_Jim> janof: A Pebble smartwatch might be a better bet, but they just discontinued it
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[3:55] <GreyHazRoot> greetings all
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[4:22] <hmoney> yo
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[4:23] <Rooster313> yo-yo
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[4:38] <GreyHazRoot> what package/driver do I have to install on Raspbian for an Alfa card to be recognized?
[4:39] <GreyHazRoot> Alfa awus036nh to be exact
[4:39] <hmoney> it doesnt work out of the box?
[4:40] <hmoney> i've never had to install wifi drivers for raspbian
[4:40] <hmoney> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=43053
[4:40] <hmoney> different model # but they say it works out of the box
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[4:41] <hmoney> http://www.wirelesshack.org/alfa-awus036nh-long-range-usb-adapter-and-raspberry-pi-compatibility.html
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[4:42] <GreyHazRoot> it's working. cord I was using was junk
[4:43] <GreyHazRoot> Thank you hmoney
[4:44] <hmoney> np
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[6:05] <GreeningGalaxy> ugh. Ubuntu MATE for RPi seems good but it won't stop freezing uttery solid
[6:05] <GreeningGalaxy> utterly*
[6:06] <GreeningGalaxy> The frustrating part is that it's impossible to even get an error message about why it froze because it's just utterly bricked and there's no way to get it working again besides cycle the power
[6:08] <GreeningGalaxy> that's three times in as many minutes. this is ridiculous.
[6:15] <d0rm0us3> Might be a silly question, but did you verify the image?
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[6:23] <GreeningGalaxy> I did... I asked on #ubuntu about a failed service (braille support) and disabled that, and it seems to have stopped freezing... so I guess it was that?
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[6:23] <GreeningGalaxy> I suspect it may have been trying too hard to restart the braille service and getting stuck
[6:23] <GreeningGalaxy> still shamefully unstable, but at least it's stayed usable for the past 5 minutes
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[6:47] <black_13> when i connect my pi zero using raspian jessie i get an 169.254 address.
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[7:41] <vyadhaka1> what are the fstab setting to mount samba share at boot up, I tried, //server/share /home/pi/share cifs guest,uid=1000,gid=1000,async,rw,user,iocharset=utf8 0 0, did not auto mount
[7:43] <ragedragon> vyadhaka1, do you have the network available when the fstab file is parsed?
[7:44] <vyadhaka1> yep set the wait for network boot option
[7:44] <vyadhaka1> and dmesg says eth0 is ready before the cifs error
[7:44] <ragedragon> if not you need to use the _netdev call in your fstab to mount the share only when the network is up
[7:45] <vyadhaka1> network is ready
[7:45] <vyadhaka1> used wait for network boot option and dmesg says eth0 is up
[7:45] <ragedragon> if you perform a mount -a, what is happening?
[7:46] <vyadhaka1> then it mounts
[7:46] <ragedragon> this means that your network is not ready when the fstab is parsed at boot
[7:46] <RoyK> black_13: that means there's no dhcp server around to give you a real ip address
[7:46] <ragedragon> you need the _netdev call
[7:47] <ragedragon> or something similar
[7:47] <RoyK> hi all. a year back or so, I asked here how to use video in a browser with pi (using firefox atm). I was told to use some javascript library
[7:47] <RoyK> (IIRC) to make use of the GPU - is this still needed? I need this for some info screens and perhaps ads
[7:48] <RoyK> leftyfb suggested using screenly, but that's not very relevant, as most of this is finished (and will probably be OSSed soon) - I just need the video part
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[7:49] <vyadhaka1> ragedragon: adding x-systemd.automount did the trick, thanks
[7:49] <ragedragon> you welc...
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[7:51] <black_13> i am using on windows (please please make fun of me.)
[7:51] <black_13> but i could use on ubuntu
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[7:53] <RoyK> black_13: that's not the problem, really - that is - are you using windows on the rpi?
[7:53] <black_13> yes.
[7:54] <RoyK> oh
[7:54] <RoyK> try raspbian
[7:55] <black_13> or let me say it is visable as a remote rndis device
[7:55] <black_13> This is a pi zero with camera connection
[7:55] * RoyK really doesn't want to talk about things like windows or donald trump
[7:56] <black_13> and the os is raspian jess on the pi
[7:56] <black_13> and please no dt i have the dts over dt.
[7:56] * RoyK is too tired
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[7:57] <black_13> and talks about himsefl in the the third person as black13 does
[7:57] * black_13 is in third person
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[8:00] <black_13> followed the steps in http://blog.gbaman.info/?p=791
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[9:47] <Tachaway> grr
[9:47] <Tachaway> Is there any way to listen to google play music on the pi?
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[9:47] <Tachaway> the website depends on flash which is particularly irritating
[9:48] <HrdwrBoB> https://bitmovin.com/google-replace-flash-with-html5/
[9:49] <HrdwrBoB> http://googlesystem.blogspot.com.au/2016/04/google-play-music-still-requires-flash.html
[9:49] <Tachaway> yes, well, perhaps this is a case of left hand not knowing what right hand is doing
[9:49] <Tachaway> in any case, it doesn't work -.-
[9:49] <HrdwrBoB> https://www.googleplaymusicdesktopplayer.com/
[9:49] <HrdwrBoB> there you go
[9:49] <HrdwrBoB> boom
[9:49] <Tachaway> that just opens the website in a window
[9:49] <Tachaway> so still requires flash
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[9:52] <Lartza> Ehh
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[10:03] <Tachaway> meh, no go with gnash either
[10:03] <Tachaway> though I can count the number of times gnash has worked for me on the fingers of one foot
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[10:08] <Lartza> Tachaway, Apparently you need Chrome so, try chromium?
[10:08] <Lartza> And enable html5 from labs?
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[10:11] <Chocolungma> google play music player
[10:13] <Tachaway> aye, trying chromium now
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[10:16] <Tachaway> ahh, working in chromium, thanks -.o
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[11:53] <Hanonim> is there a better way to make/load an image on a sd card than dd ?
[11:53] <Hanonim> it copies the whole thing, even if i have 3 or 4 gb on my sd card, and i can take up to 25 min
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[11:57] <H__> make the image as small as possible, then dd it
[11:57] <BurtyB> Hanonim, dd will write whatever size the image is - you prob want to do something like http://www.aoakley.com/articles/2015-10-09-resizing-sd-images.php
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[12:02] <ali1234> how about this for an idea
[12:02] <ali1234> use btrfs for root filesystem
[12:03] <ali1234> then you can snapshot it
[12:03] <Hanonim> so basically, shrink the partition ?
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[12:03] <shiftplusone> I'd use bsdtar to backup and look into what delta backup options are available.
[12:03] <shiftplusone> there's also partclone and such
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[12:04] <ali1234> disk image backups are largely unnecessary on linux
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[12:14] <Chocolophophora> i just backup media, /etc/ configs and dot files
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[12:32] <MoziM> I have a raspbian installation on an sd card that's 64gigs, but I want to copy all of its settings and packages onto an sd card that's 16 gigs... is this possible?
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[12:33] <MoziM> sorry if stupid question
[12:33] <swensson> Hey guys, Im trying to install/use a NRF240l01 radio chip on my Rpi 3b. But Idk where to put "CE" & "CSN" Im following a guide for Rpi rev 2 so it's not the same gpios ... ;/
[12:34] <H__> MoziM: assuming you use less than 16G of data on that 64G card make an image, then http://www.aoakley.com/articles/2015-10-09-resizing-sd-images.php
[12:35] <Hanonim> i found this tutorial for making images efficiently
[12:35] <Hanonim> http://sysmatt.blogspot.be/2014/08/backup-restore-customize-and-clone-your.html
[12:35] <MoziM> thanks
[12:42] <Hanonim> or this one
[12:42] <Hanonim> http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-BackUp-and-Shrink-Your-Raspberry-Pi-Image/
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[12:58] <pico1> Hi. Having trouble getting remote-viewer working. When I run 'remote-viewer -f spice://<host>:port', I get an "Unknown graphic type for the guest (null)"
[12:59] <pico1> Did anyone else run into this problem?
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[13:11] <Hanonim> I'd like to deploy RPIs for an IOT project. I'm looking for a way to secure confidential data such as certificates, keys etc... from being stolen physically (reading the SD card for instance)
[13:11] <Hanonim> Does anyone have a clue ? I find this problem to be quite hard...
[13:11] <Habbie> Hanonim, the easiest way is to encrypt them, which means you need to type in a passphrase on startup
[13:12] <Hanonim> Habbie: yes but then the RPIs loose the ability to reboot, which is bad (can't do work after a power failure for instance)
[13:12] <Habbie> yes
[13:12] <Habbie> well, aren't they internet-connected?
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[13:12] <Hanonim> Habbie: mostly, yes, they could ask the key to my server i guess
[13:13] <Habbie> yes
[13:13] <Habbie> but then you need to make sure that stops working if the SD card gets stolen
[13:13] <Habbie> it's a very hard problem
[13:13] <SpeedEvil> volatile RAM which is wiped when the case is opened is a solution
[13:13] <SpeedEvil> This can be overcome, but is tricky
[13:13] <pksato> put keys on a eeprom.
[13:13] <SpeedEvil> SRAM
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[13:13] <Habbie> pksato, how does that help?
[13:14] <pksato> sd card alone not work on other RPi.
[13:15] <mfa298> if the bad person has physical access to the hardware it's very hard to protect the data on it.
[13:15] <mfa298> physical security probably gets you a long way (strong locked case, glue the sd card in)
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[13:17] <Hanonim> pksato: i don't understand, why eeprom ?
[13:17] <Hanonim> let's assume the bad person has access to the whole thing, sd card and everything
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[13:19] <pksato> You can store fs key on eeprom os sram or other memory.
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[13:19] <pksato> Hanonim: 'phone to home' and destroy. :)
[13:19] <daey> volatile ram on a bga package powered by an onboard battery is nasty :>
[13:20] <daey> /ram/memory
[13:20] <pksato> hardware lock.
[13:22] <Hanonim> i'm surprised i can't find more doc about this kind of problem. after all, it must be a hot IOT topic ?
[13:22] <daey> there was a nice talk about hacking a pay tv decrypter on the last CCC.
[13:22] <pksato> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_protection_dongle
[13:22] <mfa298> Hanonim: if someone has access to the hardware it's pretty much an impossible problem to solve.
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[13:23] <daey> pksato: we actually revived that shitty solution at my company T_T
[13:24] <gordonDrogon> daey, try keep it more family friendly please ...
[13:24] <daey> ?
[13:24] <gordonDrogon> read the rules: https://goo.gl/h5qPhz
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[13:25] <pwillard> "if the bad person has physical access to the hardware it's very hard to protect the data on it." Which is why the computers in a datacenter are behind EXTRA access controls
[13:26] <pwillard> Physical access controls
[13:26] <pwillard> even locked cabinets in some cases
[13:27] <Hanonim> mfa298: it looks like you are right... but then how do companies deploy iot devices with sensitive data ? For instance, a RPI might contains data to access a broker. if someone get holds of this, it could disrupt the broker
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[13:27] <Hanonim> it's a very common situation i believe
[13:27] <pksato> Hanonim: lock switch or other ways to detect hardware access.
[13:27] <ali1234> why would device have access to the broker?
[13:28] <pwillard> Like this http://www.cableorganizer.com/arlington-industries/non-metallic-boxes/
[13:28] <mfa298> you should probably ensure the broker is suitably secured, i.e. seperate credentials for each device, limits on what those things can do, rate limits on the data they input
[13:28] <pksato> like, on a case, trigger a flag on some device.
[13:28] <Hanonim> ali1234: well, if i need a full duplex communication, the solution will be something like a broker
[13:28] <pksato> open a case
[13:29] <gordonDrogon> locked cabinets? Pah. men with guns ...
[13:29] <ali1234> right, and?
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[13:29] <pwillard> well, you have to at least try to make it hard to do
[13:30] <gordonDrogon> posh server cases have intrusion detection...
[13:30] <pwillard> if the other option is... reach over and pull SDcard
[13:30] <Hanonim> ali1234: it means having credentials, certificates and whatnot stored on the machine
[13:30] <ali1234> sure, public keys
[13:30] <gordonDrogon> I have worked in places where I was escorted at all times by men with guns. even to the toilet )-:
[13:31] <Hanonim> so someone could obtain all of this and impersonate a device
[13:31] <ali1234> it is impossible to prevent that
[13:32] <Hanonim> it's a circular problem
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[13:32] <mfa298> Hanonim: if I was doing sometihng like that I'd probably give each device it's own set of certificates/credentials and limit on the server what it can do. That way if the IoT device is compromised you can revoke it's access, you might also be able to detect an issue by it trying to do more than it can do (querying data it's not allowed, querying lots of data)
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[13:32] <ali1234> what would be the purpose behind impersonating a device?
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[13:32] <ali1234> IoT is largely a joke with security anyway
[13:33] <pwillard> If someone has physical access to my laptop... and can login *somehow*... they are effectively ME based on my stored key exchange agreements installed. So controlling Physical access is a key factor.
[13:33] <ali1234> the only reasonable way to deploy it is when you control the entire network, end to end
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[13:34] <Hanonim> so basically, millions of iot device have sensitive data that can be easily stolen physically
[13:34] <pwillard> " IoT is largely a joke with security anyway" <-- The Biggest truth about IOT right there
[13:35] <pwillard> If anyone went through the process of proper security for IOT, it would not be popular.
[13:35] <mfa298> s/ with security anyway//
[13:35] <ali1234> pretty much, yes
[13:35] <ali1234> if you connect them to the internet
[13:35] <ali1234> but the thing is, most IoT devices do not contain sensitive data
[13:36] <ali1234> for example, nobody cares what the temperature of your house is
[13:36] <pwillard> so basically,IOT and secure sensitive data don't mix
[13:36] <ali1234> right
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[13:37] <pwillard> people would hardly care what's in my fridge unless they want my bacon... thems fightin words
[13:37] <Hanonim> yes but they might contain credentials and whatnot for accessing, in some way, servers, and that could be taken advantage of
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[13:37] <ali1234> only if you design it incorrectly
[13:37] <pwillard> ^^
[13:37] <pwillard> preshared keys or no dice
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[13:38] <mfa298> if you really need keys to access something then make sure it's a key per device and easily revokable
[13:38] <ali1234> like mfa298 said, each device has its own credentials and access control
[13:39] <mfa298> if it's a single key that all devices use and has full access you're doing it wrong and deserve anything that happens
[13:39] <Hanonim> yes... but then detecting that as device has been taken control over is another class of problems
[13:39] <gordonDrogon> no-one cares about your house temperature, but if you can make the device ping an arbitary IP address, you have the start of a DDoS farm ...
[13:39] <pwillard> always
[13:39] <mfa298> I see two connections from one key, somethings wrong, revoke, problems solved
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[13:40] <ali1234> you are all over thinking it
[13:40] <pwillard> yup
[13:40] <ali1234> something like a sensor does not even need access control
[13:40] <ali1234> if someone has physical access to the teperature sensors in your house you have bigger problems to worry about
[13:40] <gordonDrogon> so I've developed a way to remote GPIO access a Pi via the Internettubes ... How would you protect it?
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[13:41] <ali1234> gordonDrogon: i would stick a public key on it, because it is an output
[13:41] <ali1234> the master controller would have the private key
[13:41] <ali1234> and it would be physically protected
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[13:41] <ali1234> physical access to the output endpoint gives the attacker nothing useful, all they get is a public key
[13:41] <pwillard> right
[13:41] <ali1234> device wont act upon messages received unless they are signed by the master
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[13:42] <gordonDrogon> what I've found with similar stuff is that if you protect it to the hilt, people bleat that it's too hard to use, and if you don't protect it, they use it, then bleat when they get hacked...
[13:42] <pwillard> human nature
[13:42] <ali1234> it does not have to be hard to use
[13:42] <Hanonim> okay ! well, thanks to all of you. i was mainly asking because i'm looking for a good duplex communication between RPis and my server, and it might result in a security hasard if not properly organized
[13:42] <ali1234> just have a pairing procedure... like anything does
[13:42] <gordonDrogon> Hanonim, use my new wiringPi remote access :-)
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[13:43] <Habbie> gordonDrogon, libsodium is nice for your remote GPIO
[13:43] <ali1234> the most simple way to do it is to make endpoint only listen on localhost and then tunnel through ssh, after installing ssh public key on the endpoint
[13:43] <Hanonim> so what i get from what you saying is i basically have to find a good broker (or homemade solution) which can conveniently revoke any client, and monitor clients for strange behavior
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[13:44] <ali1234> most simple for the developer that is
[13:44] <Habbie> ali1234, indeed
[13:44] <ali1234> for user, you need a GUI like how bluetooth does it
[13:44] <ali1234> then do dh key exchange or whatever
[13:45] <Hanonim> gordonDrogon: Ah! i'm not aware of this project. Any info ? I need more than just handling the pins, but who knows
[13:45] <ali1234> http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/45963/diffie-hellman-key-exchange-in-plain-english
[13:45] <gordonDrogon> Hanonim, you write a 'pin' driver for your hardware local to that pi. you read the 'pin' locally or remotely'.
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[13:47] <ali1234> raw pin control isn't how IoT is supposed to work anyway. you are supposed to present well defined services
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[13:47] <ali1234> rather like uPNP in fact
[13:47] <gordonDrogon> an example: on a weather station, I run: wiringpid -z -x ds18b20:100:0000053af458 123456
[13:48] <Hanonim> time for a break, thanks to all of you !
[13:48] <gordonDrogon> this runs the daemon and tells it to ignore requests for local pins (-z) and to add in a ds18b20 temp sensor on pin number 100. 123456 is a password.
[13:48] <gordonDrogon> on a remote linux box, I can run: gpio -z -x drcn:100:200:weather-pi-w:6124:123456 aread 200
[13:49] <gordonDrogon> it returns 201 - 20.1�C.
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[13:49] <ali1234> and do you send password in cleartext?
[13:49] <gordonDrogon> of-course not.
[13:49] <ali1234> if so, game over, i own your house
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[13:50] <gordonDrogon> well, even if I did, you'd only own what was exporte - in this case, the ability to read a temperature sensor ...
[13:50] <ali1234> yes, which is not a problem
[13:50] <gordonDrogon> it will be a problem when people export "everything" )-:
[13:50] <gordonDrogon> but you can't protect against stupidity.
[13:51] <ali1234> in IoT it works very differently to that
[13:51] <ali1234> you have a broker which simply relays messages
[13:51] <gordonDrogon> I never said this was IoT though ...
[13:51] <gordonDrogon> it's a remote gpio access-o-tron for wiringPi.
[13:51] <ali1234> you dont poll sensors
[13:51] <ali1234> the sensors send data when ever they feel like it to the broken
[13:51] <ali1234> other devices subscribe to those messages
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[13:52] <ali1234> all you really need to do is put the broker on SSL, and it can't be impersonated
[13:52] <ali1234> but the data is not encrypted if people have physical access to the endpoint devices
[13:53] <ali1234> it is just signed
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[13:53] <ali1234> it is the same problem as with DRM
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[13:55] <gordonDrogon> anyway, I developed this for a specific clients needs some time back and they've let me publish it, so I'm just in the final process of tidying it up before I push it out.
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[14:00] <gordonDrogon> even using it myself now to control my Pi oven - which is nice as I can monitor it on any linux system in the house.
[14:01] <brainzap> wow such IoT
[14:01] <gordonDrogon> more like LoT - Lan of Things :)
[14:01] <gordonDrogon> the only way to access it off-site would be for me to port-forward in the router or via ssh ...
[14:01] <brainzap> this makes me think of gobot.io, which also uses special firmware to expose pins, https://gobot.io
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[14:03] <gordonDrogon> that looks like a host -> arduino sort of thing.
[14:03] <gordonDrogon> where the arduino has the hardware.
[14:04] <gordonDrogon> actually, that's ver similar to wiringPi - only it works over a LAN as well as serial (I've had serial stuff to arduino in wiringPi since day 1, but I think I'm the only one using it!)
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[14:06] <ali1234> so i feel like building something
[14:07] <ali1234> i've got a couple of hundred tactile switched
[14:07] <gordonDrogon> I feel like lunch. today is national toast day and I've no bread. (Imagine that, a baker with no bread!!!)
[14:08] <gordonDrogon> brainzap, http://unicorn.drogon.net/blink8-drcn.c - uses wiringPi to talk to a Pi on the LAN.
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[14:09] <gordonDrogon> that runs on my linux desktop, not a Pi.
[14:09] <ali1234> have you ever googled drcnet?
[14:10] <gordonDrogon> no... oh, interesting.
[14:11] <gordonDrogon> I used 'drc' for drogon remote control some 6-7 years ago...
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[14:11] <gordonDrogon> drcs is the serial version that talks to ATmegas and PICs.
[14:19] <brainzap> gordonDrogon: how many temperature sampels do fit into 4MB - the firmware
[14:20] <gordonDrogon> 4MB what? what firmware? not sure what you mean here...
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[14:21] <brainzap> I wanted to use the ESP8266 but the storage is not enough, how can I extend its storage, offline
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[14:22] <gordonDrogon> oh no idea. I've never used them.
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[14:25] <Habbie> brainzap, i believe it can drive SD
[14:26] <Habbie> brainzap, https://www.wemos.cc/product/micro-sd-card-shield.html
[14:29] <brainzap> nice, alternative I can solder 128MB on it
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[14:55] <kihis> is it possible to use pi zero as an usb ethernet gadget AND get 1wire temperature sensor working?
[14:56] <kihis> first needs dtoverlay=dwc2 and 1wire dtoverlay=w1-gpio...
[14:56] <Habbie> i don't see why those two things would conflicts
[14:56] <Habbie> *conflict
[14:56] <kihis> can i just configure dtoverlay=dwc2,w1-gpio ?
[14:57] <Habbie> no
[14:57] <Habbie> put it on two lines
[14:57] <Habbie> https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/configuration/device-tree.md
[14:58] <kihis> ha! thanks :)
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[15:16] <pwillard> Sooo not for noobs
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[15:44] <hastake> hi
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[15:44] <swensson> is NSS and SDA the same thing? Trying to connect a RFID chip
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[15:46] <hastake> i am trying to netboot a raspberry pi 3, but i don't want to use nfs but a initramfs. so far i booted the kernel over network and generated a very small initramfs with buildroot and the raspberry toolchain. does anyone have a pointer on how to configure the raspberry to download the initramfs over tftp and use it?
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[15:47] <GreeningGalaxy> that one's above my pay grade, sorry
[15:47] <Lartza> hastake, Use NFS
[15:47] <Lartza> TFTP is the sixth plane of hell
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[15:52] <hastake> okay, so when nfs is not an option?
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[15:54] <Lartza> Dunno, you said you didn't want to so :S
[15:55] <hastake> it was an euphemism
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[15:55] <Lartza> But I mean, yes you always have to use tftp for part of the PXE but that's unavoidable, like messing with router firmware
[15:55] <Lartza> Only use tftp where you absolutely have to
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[15:56] <hastake> anyway, config.txt can apparently load a initramfs in memory, and i should be able to set the address via cmdline.txt
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[15:56] <hastake> can start.elf can download the initramfs?
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[15:58] <Lartza> Everything should download through tftp
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[15:58] <Lartza> afaik
[15:58] <Lartza> Wait except rpi
[15:58] <hastake> yeah but is there documentation on how to do it?
[15:59] <smojphace> 2
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[16:02] <Lartza> hastake, What is it currently failing with?
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[16:02] <Lartza> Is everything tftp served correctly, no errors on the tftp server?
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[16:03] <Lartza> And where is your root if not NFS? An image through tftp?
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[16:06] <hastake> it's not failing, the kernel seem to boot correctly, downloading the bootcode/start.elf/dtb/kernel.img/cmdline/config and printing the boot sequence
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[16:06] <hastake> i hope to provide the rootfs via a image through tftp, yes
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[16:09] <BurtyB> hastake, It doesn't work using the normal "initrd=blah.img" appended to cmdline.txt to pull if from tftp?
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[16:18] <hastake> it doesn't seem so
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[16:20] <hastake> usually it's the bootloader that does it, with uboot for example you have to downloaded and put it in ram before starting the kernel, and give the ram address to the kernel's cmdline
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[16:46] <swensson> Im trying to use a RFID chip, but when I add device_tree=on to /boot/config.txt Im unable to boot the RPI... Im using a RPI 3B anyone know how to fix this?
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[16:51] <shiftplusone> device tree is on by default. In fact, booting wihout it hasn't been supported in quite a while
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[16:52] <leftyfb> swensson: doesn't your RFID reader talk serial/UART?
[16:54] <swensson> leftyfb Im not sure.. trying with the serial I guess
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[16:54] <swensson> Gonna try this, this time http://dpaste.com/0GYADNQ
[16:56] <leftyfb> swensson: which RFID reader do you have?
[16:56] <swensson> leftyfb RFID-RC522 A blue chip ;P
[16:57] <leftyfb> swensson: why not just use serial?
[16:57] <leftyfb> swensson: is it just the chip you have or the whole board? (PN532)
[16:58] <swensson> leftyfb I just want it to work, idk how to do it tho... it's like this one https://www.google.se/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjApq32yqbSAhVGhSwKHa2sBoEQjRwIBw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fhome.ctw.utwente.nl%2Fslootenvanf%2F2016%2F05%2F24%2Frfid-reader%2F&psig=AFQjCNGQ8UwvBhL3fOqg6FmggDXwd7WFcw&ust=1487951901808653
[17:00] <swensson> And I think Im using serial.. :P
[17:01] <leftyfb> swensson: if you're using serial, then you do not need to mess with any device tree's or boot settings
[17:02] <leftyfb> swensson: looks like that one might only do SPI though
[17:02] <swensson> oh, do you have any guide on how I should do it?
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[17:03] <leftyfb> swensson: nope, not that one that seems to only support spi
[17:03] <leftyfb> swensson: http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/191916346134?lpid=82&chn=ps&ul_noapp=true that one is a lot easier to use
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[17:04] <swensson> leftyfb I can't find the guide I used last time to get this working but it should'nt be that hard to get this to work ;P
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[17:29] <noraatepernos> Anyone know where to find a raspbian image with ssh enabled?
[17:30] <noraatepernos> I have a pi b+ I bought ages ago and I was a bit shocked to discover I needed to plug this into a monitor/keyboard and stuff.
[17:30] <shiftplusone> you don't
[17:30] <noraatepernos> I just need shell access.
[17:30] <Habbie> noraatepernos, just put a file called 'ssh' on the first partition
[17:30] <shiftplusone> drop a file named 'ssh' on what he said.
[17:30] <Habbie> :)
[17:30] <noraatepernos> Thanks!
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[17:33] <noraatepernos> Holy crap you guys are the best. It works.
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[17:38] <shiftplusone> It's almost as if somebody considered your use case before disabling ssh by default =P
[17:38] <IT_Sean> If only there was, like, a worldwide interconnected network of computers that one could use to look up information such as this
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[17:43] <oq> IT_Sean: googling isn't going to help with such a recent change
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[17:43] <IT_Sean> it's not documented anywhere? I find that hard to believe.
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[17:43] <oq> there may be documentation
[17:44] <mfa298> just think, you could use that worldwide interconnected network of computers to publish details of changes in a way people can find easily
[17:44] <oq> but it won't be at the top of google search results
[17:44] <shiftplusone> It's in the documentation and there was a blog post about it
[17:44] <mfa298> first google hit I got https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/remote-access/ssh/
[17:45] <mfa298> and to quote the bottom "For headless setup, SSH can be enabled by placing a file named 'ssh', without any extension, onto the boot partition of the SD card."
[17:45] <oq> mfa298: my first result was http://www.instructables.com/id/Use-ssh-to-talk-with-your-Raspberry-Pi/
[17:45] <mfa298> tbh I was expecting the blog post earlier than any documentation
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[17:49] <subvhome> hey all.. i have a fresh install of the minimal image of raspbian jessie lite... i installed the gui mods and the browser.. im able to get a desktop everything works fine.. but when i open raspi-config and enable the VNC server.... i get "Unable to connect to VNC server"
[17:50] <subvhome> am i supposed to configure something other then just enabling it
[17:50] <shiftplusone> have you installed realvnc server?
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[17:54] <subvhome> No.. i assumed thats what raspi-config did in the back end
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[17:57] <shiftplusone> subvhome: I've mentioned it to the maintainer and he'll take a look at making things a little more obvious there
[17:59] <subvhome> it is the minimal install.. so i suppose the package isn't there
[17:59] <shiftplusone> I've tried it here and it just says "VNC server is" after enabling it which.... isn't a helpful message.
[18:01] <subvhome> thanks for your help
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[18:06] <tsglove> IT_Sean, what oq said. That ssh disable/enable change bit me about 2 weeks ago. Spent a good part of one hour figuring it out.
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[18:08] <shiftplusone> Why would it take more than 5 minutes? SSH doesn't work? Is ssh running? No? Enable it. Fixed. Maye there is something in the release notes about this, or perhaps there's a blog post about it... oh, there it is.
[18:09] <subvhome> ok so vnc4server was installed.. i assigned a password.. and i can connect to the address:1 and get a prompt.. when i log in i just get a gray screen.. yet PIXEL is running on the monitor
[18:10] <shiftplusone> realvnc, not vnc4server
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[18:11] <ShorTie> 4.1.18-v7+, where does the plus come from ??
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[18:11] <shiftplusone> grep -r '+'
[18:11] <shiftplusone> (least helpful reply ever)
[18:11] <ShorTie> thats ok, lol.
[18:12] <ShorTie> lib/modules
[18:12] <shiftplusone> it's in one of the scripts and means that it's not built from a proper release
[18:12] <subvhome> purging and installing the realvnc-vnc-server package
[18:12] <subvhome> thanks.
[18:13] <shiftplusone> an untagged git commit, for example, I think... I don't remember the exact logic it uses to determine whether to add the +
[18:14] <ShorTie> scripts/mkknlimg maybe ??
[18:14] <shiftplusone> nope
[18:14] <shiftplusone> it's an upstream kernel thing
[18:15] <shiftplusone> Why do you ask?
[18:15] <ShorTie> when i compile it, doesn't seem to use the +
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[18:16] <ShorTie> i get like 3.18.16-v7
[18:17] <shiftplusone> in the source tree, try 'touch .scmversion'
[18:17] <shiftplusone> scripts/setlocalversion
[18:17] <shiftplusone> actually 'echo + > .scmversion', maybe
[18:18] <ShorTie> �k�� ��K��
[18:18] <subvhome> still getting blank screen
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[18:18] <shiftplusone> taking a closer look at the source, yes, it seems like the file should contain the +
[18:19] <ShorTie> could that be way scripts/mkknlimg is failing with '283x: n' maybe ??
[18:19] <subvhome> its just opening xwindows thats all
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[18:20] <shiftplusone> ShorTie: I don't know what the status of kernels that old is.
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[18:22] <ShorTie> well, kernel version doesn't really seem to matter
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[18:25] <Nia> Does anyone know how to figure out what USB devices need powered USB hubs for the Pi Zero?
[18:25] <Nia> And whether this is enough for most things: https://www.adafruit.com/products/2992
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[18:26] <Nia> I want USB ports for my Pi Zero and ethernet, but not sure what things need more power than this will get from the Pi Zero.
[18:27] <ShorTie> rpi-firmware kicks up a 3.18.16-v7+ for lib/modules
[18:27] <Nia> Was that an answer for my question or a response to another?
[18:27] <tsglove> Hey guys. look for some programming advice: I am running a script that runs raspistill. Sometimes, raspistill gets hung up for whatever reason. I am looking for ideas on how to kill it.
[18:28] <tsglove> Maybe a counter previous to running raspistill? Your thoughts?
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[18:35] <ShorTie> actually 'echo + > .scmversion', sounds like a winner with if test -e .scmversion; then
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[18:57] <subvhome> shiftplusone: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=108862#p108862 my solution...gives you console (:0)
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[19:18] <swensson> So after like 3 hours trying to fix my RFID reader I finally realised a wired was not 100% connected and now it finally works. Anyone know any simple way of cloning RFID tags?
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[19:21] <SpeedEvil> swensson: it depends on the sort of tag, and varies from trivial to impossible.
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[19:21] <swensson> SpeedEvil isn't it so simple like "read" & "write"? or "dump" and "write"? :O
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[19:22] <SpeedEvil> There are tags with just a number, public. You can copy these onto programmable tags trivially.
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[19:23] <SpeedEvil> There are tags with encryption that is broken, and you can use the breaks to extract the secret, and again...
[19:23] <SpeedEvil> and tehre are tags with unbroken encryption that you can't copy.
[19:24] <swensson> so if the card is just a number, how do I clone it? :O
[19:24] <SpeedEvil> Only the very cheapest cards used for stuff where cloning isn't an issue tends to be that
[19:24] <swensson> I think that will be the case this time... I hope
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[19:29] <leftyfb> swensson: why do you need to do this?
[19:29] <swensson> leftyfb I got a RFID tag instead of a "real key"
[19:30] <leftyfb> ok
[19:30] <leftyfb> why do you need to clone it?
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[19:30] <swensson> Mainly becuase I want to know how to do it
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[19:31] <mfa298> swensson: for soem of the cheaper rfid systems they're program once during manufacture. You just put the list of numbers from known tags into your system
[19:31] <osmo_sms> Hello, this month will be release rpi4? :) with 2gb ram. right? :)
[19:32] <mfa298> osmo_sms: nope
[19:32] <IT_Sean> who told you that?
[19:32] <redrabbit> what
[19:32] <osmo_sms> mfa298, why not? :D
[19:32] <mfa298> osmo_sms: maybe 2018 if you're lucky (but could well be 2019)
[19:32] <redrabbit> i dont care about fat specs
[19:32] <osmo_sms> they release in february :)
[19:32] <redrabbit> i want low power consumption
[19:32] <redrabbit> small size
[19:32] <redrabbit> something you cand find elsewhere
[19:33] <osmo_sms> it's so hard to add +1gb? :) and change chipset to 1,8Ghz ? :)
[19:33] <IT_Sean> actually, yes, it is
[19:33] <mfa298> osmo_sms: it's been said many times by the people that know (Eben an Liz) that there won't be a Pi4 until 2-3 years after the Pi3
[19:33] <osmo_sms> This month will be. im sure! :)
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[19:33] <IT_Sean> osmo_sms: please go troll somewhere else.
[19:33] <redrabbit> these arm boards were never meant to be powerful
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[19:34] <osmo_sms> I just want rpi with 2Gb :(
[19:34] <mfa298> osmo_sms: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=172088#p1101327 end of story
[19:34] <redrabbit> like all roided up and stuff
[19:34] <leftyfb> osmo_sms: then you will have to wait until next year or the year after
[19:34] <IT_Sean> that ^
[19:34] <redrabbit> 2gb for what
[19:34] <redrabbit> use something else then
[19:34] <osmo_sms> I like how rpi3 works.. just want 2gb :(
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[19:35] <oq> osmo_sms: buy an asus tinkerboard
[19:35] <redrabbit> what is filling your ram
[19:35] <oq> it's the same form factor as a pi3
[19:35] <oq> but better spec'd
[19:35] <IT_Sean> osmo_sms: well, right now, there is no 2gb Pi.
[19:35] <redrabbit> there's a ton of boards out there
[19:36] <Qatz> odroid c2 is like a pi3 with 2 gigs. Software holds it back though. Kernel is too old
[19:36] <redrabbit> you have to know that software support will be all over the scale
[19:36] <oq> redrabbit: but the asus tinkerboard is exactly what hes decribing to a t
[19:36] <redrabbit> that's the meh about it
[19:36] <oq> 1.8ghz and 2gb ram
[19:36] <redrabbit> oq: is it for sale already?
[19:37] <redrabbit> i wonder whats the hardware software support like
[19:37] <oq> yes
[19:37] <brainzap> i want some lemon cake
[19:37] <redrabbit> lol
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[19:50] <swensson> mfa298 So it is'nt that simple as just place the "old / original" tag on my reader, do some dumping/reading and then placing the new card on the rfid reader and write the info I dumped?
[19:51] <IT_Sean> depends on the kind of card.
[19:51] <swensson> IT_Sean, I'd bet it's a really cheap card.
[19:51] <IT_Sean> what's it used for?
[19:51] <swensson> Entering a room
[19:51] <swensson> ;P
[19:52] <redrabbit> thug
[19:52] <IT_Sean> it probably has some flavour of encryption on it, so... ymmv.
[19:53] <swensson> You don't happend to have any documentation I can read for this? .. Im really new to this RFID thingy.. And I need it done by tomorrow :$
[19:53] <gordonDrogon> very few rfid's are challenge/response.
[19:54] <IT_Sean> Me? Sorry, Newp.
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[19:54] <IT_Sean> But... try cloning it. You might get lucky.
[19:54] <swensson> Yeah that's what im trying to do ;P
[19:54] <IT_Sean> read what's on the card, then dump that onto another card.
[19:55] <kow_> this ASUS Tinker Board sounds cool, I think the RK3288 chip it uses has an open source mipi-dsi driver
[19:55] <swensson> That's exactly what im trying to do ;P I did follow this guide https://www.sunfounder.com/wiki/index.php?title=How_to_Use_an_RFID_RC522_on_Raspberry_Pi and it came with "Dump/Read/write" "functions"
[19:55] <kow_> finally a pi-like device that will work with off the shelf LCDs
[19:58] <mfa298> swensson: If it's cheap then it's quite probably a read only system, you probably need to try and find out what system is uses as a starting point
[19:58] <swensson> mfa298 I know they can read/write to the cards atleast, same with the card I got
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[19:59] <swensson> Just gotta figure out how to dump the info and then how to write the info to my card
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[20:30] <SqrtOfPi> Hi!
[20:30] <SqrtOfPi> How would you multiplex 20 buttons to a GPIO ? :)
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[20:33] <leftyfb> SqrtOfPi: you build a separate board utilizing SPI or some other protocol to talk to the pi
[20:34] <leftyfb> or leave, that'll work too
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[20:56] <kihis> how accurate enviro phat's pressure sensor is?
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[20:56] <kihis> seems to be +-1hPa...
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[21:26] <plugwash> I am about to move archive.raspbian.org and mirrordirector.raspbian.org to a new host, if you encounter any problems please tell me.
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[21:55] <RoyK> hi all. a year back or so, I asked here how to use video in a browser with pi (using firefox atm). I was told to use some javascript library (IIRC) to make use of the GPU - is this still needed? I need this for some info screens and perhaps ads. leftyfb suggested using screenly, but that's not very relevant, as most of this is finished (and will probably be OSSed soon) - I just need the video
[21:55] <RoyK> (accelerated, that is) part. Any ideas?
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[21:55] <TheSilentLink> hi does the raspberry pi zero support znc?
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[21:57] <Habbie> TheSilentLink, yes
[21:57] <TheSilentLink> Habbie: you sure? I get illegal instruction when I type znc
[21:58] <Habbie> TheSilentLink, how did you get znc?
[21:58] <TheSilentLink> apt
[21:58] <TheSilentLink> but I used the repo on the site
[21:58] <TheSilentLink> to get a newer version
[21:58] <Habbie> ah
[21:58] <Habbie> then no
[21:58] <TheSilentLink> no?
[21:58] <Habbie> that's incompatible
[21:58] <TheSilentLink> Oh why?
[21:58] <Habbie> different CPU architecture
[21:59] <TheSilentLink> Habbie: which do I need to use then>
[21:59] <TheSilentLink> ?
[21:59] <bub_> sudo apt-get install znc
[21:59] <Habbie> the one raspbian ships, or a compatible one from another source
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[21:59] <TheSilentLink> Habbie: got a source for a compatible one?
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[21:59] <bub_> znc 1.4.2
[22:00] <Habbie> TheSilentLink, i don't
[22:00] <bub_> TheSilentLink: just type 'sudo apt-get install znc' to install znc 1.4.2 ..
[22:00] <TheSilentLink> bub_: is that the latest one that works with the pi zero?
[22:00] <bub_> or is there any difference between the packages for raspbian on the pi2/3 and zero?
[22:01] <bub_> I'm not sure.. you could grab the source of znc somewhere.. and try compiling it on the raspbian yourself
[22:01] <bub_> -the
[22:01] <bub_> or be happy with znc 1.4.2
[22:01] <Habbie> packages in raspbian are identical between all pi hardware revisions
[22:02] <bub_> the easiest solution is apt-get install znc .. and you're finished.. else you could look for the znc sourcecode, and try compiling it yourself
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[22:03] <TheSilentLink> what architecture does the pi zero use?
[22:03] <bub_> arm
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[22:04] <TheSilentLink> armhf?
[22:04] <TheSilentLink> I'm guessing it is armel
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[22:06] <bub_> just curious, any special reason for not going with znc 1.4.2 ?
[22:06] <TheSilentLink> bub_: well it is a bit outdated the latest version is 1.6.4
[22:07] <bub_> yeah, but do you need anything from the newer versions of znc compared to 1.4.2 ?
[22:07] <bub_> you just want the newest for the sake of new? :)
[22:08] <TheSilentLink> bub_: yep just want new!! lol
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[22:08] <bub_> hehe ok, fine
[22:08] <bub_> and good luck! maybe you find someone that has made a nice .deb for a new version of znc
[22:08] <TheSilentLink> bub_: shouldn't be too hard to compile i hope
[22:08] <bub_> or perhaps it's easy to compile
[22:08] <bub_> right
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[22:10] <TheSilentLink> bub_: according to this it looks bloody easy https://lizards.opensuse.org/2015/03/26/compile-znc-irc-bouncer-on-raspberry-pi/
[22:10] <bub_> you.. in most cases it's just .configure, make, make install.. voila
[22:11] <bub_> eh.. you=yeah..
[22:11] <bub_> nice
[22:11] <TheSilentLink> bub_: yep thats what I just found didn't know it was that easy
[22:11] <bub_> tell us how it went hehe
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[22:12] <TheSilentLink> yep will might take a while using a class 4 sd card lol
[22:12] <bub_> ah hehe, it's okidok.. just remember 'make -j4' .. so you use all cores
[22:13] <mfa298> TheSilentLink: reading up a bit, raspbian is armhf on all platforms, however general armhf binaries from other sources (debian etc) aren't compatible with armhf on the arm6 cpu in the Zero (and Pi1)
[22:13] <TheSilentLink> bub_: but the pi zero only has 1 core...
[22:13] <bub_> ohhhh.. forgot, it was zero.. bah :)
[22:13] <TheSilentLink> mfa298: yea thought that was the case
[22:14] <TheSilentLink> bub_: lol yea that wouldn't do much!
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[22:15] <TheSilentLink> switching from a pi3 to a pi zero for my server as I want to use the better processer(more power) for other things
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[22:16] <gordonDrogon> TheSilentLink, have you used a Pi for a home server yet?
[22:16] <TheSilentLink> gordonDrogon: you mean as a nas?
[22:16] <gordonDrogon> yes.
[22:16] <TheSilentLink> gordonDrogon: no I use it as a website and irc bouncer mainly
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[22:16] <gordonDrogon> ok. was just curious.
[22:16] <TheSilentLink> http://thesilentlink.ddns.net
[22:17] <TheSilentLink> gordonDrogon: though a pi zero might be too slow?
[22:17] <gordonDrogon> I know where the issues are performance wise, just wanted to know how it "felt" in real life.
[22:17] <bub_> znc doesn't take much resources
[22:17] <gordonDrogon> the main thing is the single usb channel.
[22:17] <TheSilentLink> bub_: yep thats why it is perfect for my pi zero
[22:17] <gordonDrogon> so it would be shared with usb drives and usb ethernet ...
[22:17] <TheSilentLink> gordonDrogon: single usb channel?
[22:18] <gordonDrogon> Pi's only have one usb channel.
[22:18] <bub_> rickrolled!
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[22:18] <bub_> haha.. nice
[22:18] <TheSilentLink> bub_: lol I got bored so I made that! the timer is my friends code
[22:18] <TheSilentLink> gordonDrogon: using a hub doesn't change the channel right?
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[22:19] <TheSilentLink> still compiling lol
[22:19] <gordonDrogon> one bus, many ports sharing that bus.
[22:19] <TheSilentLink> gordonDrogon: guessing that creates a bottleneck?
[22:20] <gordonDrogon> yes... more so as it's half duplex, however I know people using them as small home servers.
[22:20] <gordonDrogon> not tried myself as I have several others - I might, just so I can see for myself what it's really like one day.
[22:21] <TheSilentLink> gordonDrogon: I would try but I don't have a usb hard drive and I'm guessing 8gb on my class 4 sd card isn't going to cut it
[22:21] <gordonDrogon> common used stuff obviously gets cached in RAM, so that helps a little though.
[22:21] <TheSilentLink> gordonDrogon: but it only has 1gb of ram...
[22:21] <TheSilentLink> your not gonna cache a film in that
[22:22] <TheSilentLink> actually forget that films aren't common
[22:22] <pksato> don't stream a >4k videos.
[22:22] <pksato> :)
[22:22] <bub_> don't use adblock.. chromium.. chugs mem like a mofo
[22:22] <TheSilentLink> pksato: 1080 is still large
[22:22] <TheSilentLink> 1080p*
[22:22] <bub_> been using pi3 as my main computer for about a month.. surfing the web with adblock was hell
[22:22] <gordonDrogon> bub_, please keep it family friendly ...
[22:23] <TheSilentLink> bub_: adblock using to much ram?
[22:23] <TheSilentLink> cpu*
[22:23] <bub_> yeah, and slowed down the loading of sites
[22:23] <gordonDrogon> TheSilentLink, caching is fine for things bigger than ram that are being streamed - typically going out via ether much slower than they can come in from the drive.
[22:23] <TheSilentLink> bub_: what disto you use?
[22:23] <bub_> raspbian
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[22:24] <TheSilentLink> bub_: you tried ubuntu mate?
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[22:24] <bub_> no, only tried raspbian on the pi3
[22:24] <TheSilentLink> I might use my pi as my daily computer
[22:24] <bub_> it's ok for irc and programming
[22:24] <TheSilentLink> bub_: you customised the theme?
[22:24] <TheSilentLink> look?
[22:25] <TheSilentLink> look?
[22:25] <bub_> and you can play some mp3's .. and have a pdf open.. in X.. and then you have about 100-200MB of RAM left.. hehe
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[22:25] <gordonDrogon> I use an old acer aspire one netbook which only has 1GB of RAM and a very slow SSD - it's usable for web stuff, but some patience is needed.
[22:25] <bub_> then you start chromium, BAM! on to swap and all the goodies
[22:25] <TheSilentLink> bub_: why not use firefox?
[22:25] <gordonDrogon> there is the pihole project which might help with ads, etc.
[22:26] <TheSilentLink> gordonDrogon: yea but bub_ is using it as desktop not a server pihole works best in a server
[22:26] <bub_> I have an eggdrop running.. and znc
[22:26] <bub_> sshd
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[22:26] <TheSilentLink> bub_: egg drop?
[22:26] <TheSilentLink> whats that?
[22:26] <bub_> ircbot
[22:27] <TheSilentLink> oh! is it in this channel?
[22:27] <gordonDrogon> run pihole on any spare Pi/Linux box ..
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[22:27] <bub_> nono, efnet somewhere hehe
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[22:27] <TheSilentLink> bub_: btw can you customise raspbian much?
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[22:29] <bub_> changing window managers? hehe.. yeah.. but depends what you mean by customizing.. what are you looking for?
[22:29] <bub_> it's linux
[22:29] <bub_> you can do a lot
[22:29] <TheSilentLink> bub_: like themes and just changing the look of the desktop
[22:29] <bub_> yeah sure
[22:30] <bub_> lots of packages in their repository
[22:30] <TheSilentLink> some distros are harder to customise than others
[22:30] <TheSilentLink> bub_: it does lxde right?
[22:30] <bub_> seems like it, it's all in their repository
[22:31] <bub_> just 'apt-cache search <whatever>'
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[22:32] <TheSilentLink> bub_: yea will try when I install it! also can you uninstall installed programs like scratch without breaking the whole os?
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[22:33] <bub_> hehe, should work.. but I've managed to mess up debian many times through the years
[22:33] <bub_> not sure that was because I was only uninstalling packages though
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[22:35] <TheSilentLink> bub_: yea some distros the default packages are dependancies for the DE and stuff so uninstalling it breaks the whole distro
[22:36] <TheSilentLink> still compiling... this is gonna take forever!
[22:36] <bub_> hoho
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[22:36] <bub_> but it's compiling!
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[22:37] <bub_> as in "at least it's still compiling"
[22:38] <TheSilentLink> bub_: true I guess but it is taking one hell of a long time!
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[22:40] <gordonDrogon> sometimes you just need a bit of patience :)
[22:40] <TheSilentLink> gordonDrogon: true but if after all of this I get illegal instruction.....
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[22:40] <gordonDrogon> once upon a time unix boxes had a mere 256 kilo bytes of memory - think yourself lucky :-)
[22:41] <TheSilentLink> gordonDrogon: when was that?
[22:41] <gordonDrogon> 1980 and before - at least that's my personal experience.
[22:41] <TheSilentLink> gordonDrogon: when was linux made then?
[22:41] <gordonDrogon> linux - oh, 1990's.
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[22:41] <gordonDrogon> my first linux box had 32MB of RAM.
[22:42] <TheSilentLink> gordonDrogon: being 16 I feel sad I missed the early days of computers
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[22:42] <bub_> ah wow.. a real oldskooler
[22:42] <gordonDrogon> ah wow.. a real millenial ;-)
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[22:43] <bub_> I remember the days of redhat, mid 90s
[22:43] <bub_> 96.. around there I think
[22:43] <bub_> that was my first touch of linux
[22:43] <TheSilentLink> oldskooler more like newskooler lol
[22:43] <gordonDrogon> dunno. I used SLS then went to debian, not moved since.
[22:43] <TheSilentLink> my first touch of linux was last year I believe or 2 years ago
[22:43] <gordonDrogon> excellent.
[22:43] <TheSilentLink> classic ubuntu!
[22:43] <bub_> ubuntu, the gateway.. :)
[22:44] <bub_> or at least it used to be.. nowadays it's mint I think
[22:44] <gordonDrogon> I think I was 16 when I got to touch my first real computer...
[22:44] <TheSilentLink> yep! then mint then went to arch distros mainly manjaro
[22:44] <gordonDrogon> computers cost a lot then )-:
[22:45] <bub_> when was that?
[22:45] <TheSilentLink> gordonDrogon: I remember playing the sims pet stories on my old xp machine. Never knew what hardware was in that systen
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[22:45] <TheSilentLink> system*
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[22:46] <gordonDrogon> bub_, in 1978 a fully loaded Apple II was about �2500.
[22:46] <bub_> first time gaming on a computer was the early 80s for me.. helped having a dad that was a programmer
[22:46] <bub_> hoho.. nice.. the golden days of computing
[22:46] <TheSilentLink> bub_: was it doom?
[22:46] <gordonDrogon> it wasn't until '82 when the BBC Micro came along that it was (almost) affordable at �400, but by then Sinlair had cheaper stuff, but I was in the 6502 camp, so never bought into them...
[22:46] <bub_> 80s.. more like digdug, space commanders, bushido, novatron, sopwith, alleycat .. etc.. IBM PC
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[22:47] <bub_> bbc micro.. where david braben created elite
[22:47] <TheSilentLink> when was doom then?
[22:47] <bub_> commodore c64?
[22:47] <bub_> doom.. mid 90s
[22:47] <bub_> 94 I think
[22:47] <bub_> maybe 93
[22:47] <TheSilentLink> Ah right doom is a classic though!
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[22:47] <gordonDrogon> http://unicorn.drogon.net/stuff/mk14.jpg
[22:47] <bub_> yeah, john carmack and john romero <3 :)
[22:47] <TheSilentLink> bub_: yep 93
[22:48] <gordonDrogon> that's sinclairs first computer - also the first IIRC under �50. DIY build.
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[22:48] <bub_> ah hehe, nice
[22:48] <TheSilentLink> isn't there a new version of the microbic?
[22:48] <bub_> 78.. that sounds like tha days of altair 8800
[22:48] <TheSilentLink> microbit*
[22:48] <gordonDrogon> a mere 128 bytes of RAM..
[22:48] <gordonDrogon> bub_, yea, they weren't popular in the UK though
[22:49] <TheSilentLink> gordonDrogon: Oh you from the uk?
[22:49] <gordonDrogon> yup.
[22:49] <bub_> uk.. zx spectrum :)
[22:49] <bub_> I think.. hmm
[22:49] <gordonDrogon> yes.
[22:49] <gordonDrogon> after the mk14, the zx80, 81 then the speccy.
[22:49] <bub_> I'm interested in computer history, but memory fails me sometimes
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[22:50] <bub_> and the acorn.. archimedes acorn.. or something
[22:50] <TheSilentLink> and floppy disks right?
[22:50] <bub_> z80 cpu I think.. but that's been a long time since I read about
[22:50] <bub_> the speccy is known for it's amazing rubber keyboard.. hehe
[22:50] <gordonDrogon> I took my old Apple //c and BBC Micro to the local tech jam last weekend... the bbc micro caught fire. ah well.
[22:50] <TheSilentLink> thats such a weird name cause they aren't actually floppy lol
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[22:51] <BurtyB> :o
[22:51] <bub_> lol
[22:51] <TheSilentLink> gordonDrogon: how??
[22:51] <gordonDrogon> er, 5.25 and 8" discs ARE floppy :)
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[22:51] <gordonDrogon> see real floppy discs in this photo: http://unicorn.drogon.net/lode.jpg
[22:51] <TheSilentLink> well a bit flexiable
[22:51] <gordonDrogon> oh, old capacitors in old power supplies are somewhat unreliable. it's a common fault.
[22:52] <bub_> oh man, that's some beautiful hardware there
[22:52] <bub_> I always get a bit tingly inside looking at old computers.. hehe
[22:52] <gordonDrogon> probably 1980.
[22:53] <gordonDrogon> old PCs just don't mean anything to me - there is just nothing at all special about them.
[22:53] <TheSilentLink> I found this in my draw can you confirm to me this is a floppy disk: http://imgur.com/a/X4q40
[22:53] <d0rm0us3> Not even the silk screening of that Apple ][ ?
[22:53] <bub_> you mean IBM PC's .. or computers in general?
[22:53] <gordonDrogon> well - it's a disk, but the name floppy just carried over ...
[22:54] <TheSilentLink> gordonDrogon: its not a floppy dish??
[22:54] <TheSilentLink> disk
[22:54] <gordonDrogon> technically the plastic disk inside the hard plastic case is still floppy...
[22:54] <gordonDrogon> people call them floppys just because ...
[22:54] <gordonDrogon> the older ones did have soft bendy cases.
[22:54] <TheSilentLink> gordonDrogon: but would you call mine a floppy disk?
[22:54] <bub_> I find commodore 64 to be special, after reading on the edge.. and getting to know some of the engineers behind the hardware..
[22:55] <bub_> and I guess that goes for most old computers.. not IBM PC's perhaps..
[22:55] <gordonDrogon> http://unicorn.drogon.net/bbcSmoke.jpg
[22:55] <gordonDrogon> TheSilentLink, yes, I'd call it a floppy - because that's what it's called... even though technically not correct...
[22:55] <TheSilentLink> gordonDrogon: how many pi's do you have?
[22:55] <gordonDrogon> I don't know.
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[22:56] <TheSilentLink> gordonDrogon: oh right how I want to know whats on it lol
[22:56] <TheSilentLink> pies*
[22:56] <gordonDrogon> I have a pi connected to an oven which I make pies in ...
[22:56] <TheSilentLink> really??? doesn't it get hot? don't want that cpu to overheat!
[22:57] <gordonDrogon> https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi-controlled-oven/
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[22:57] <TheSilentLink> what is that a joke article?
[22:57] <gordonDrogon> no.
[22:57] <gordonDrogon> I use it most mornings too.
[22:58] <TheSilentLink> gordonDrogon: what does it? does it tell you the temp in the oven?
[22:59] <gordonDrogon> yes, it tells the temperature and uses it to control the heater to maintain a constant temperature.
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[23:00] <TheSilentLink> remotely?
[23:00] <gordonDrogon> well, there's no screen on it, so yes.
[23:00] <gordonDrogon> although I'm usually on the other side of the bakery with my laptop..
[23:00] <TheSilentLink> but doesn't your oven tell you that and let you control it?
[23:01] <gordonDrogon> sure - it has a knob on the front, but this is more fun.
[23:01] <TheSilentLink> haha true so you could turn it on in bed?
[23:01] <gordonDrogon> well yes and no.
[23:01] <TheSilentLink> yes and no?
[23:01] <TheSilentLink> I want to cook my pies in bed!!!!
[23:01] <gordonDrogon> the Pi controls the temperature, but the actual oven main power control is a separate knob.
[23:02] <gordonDrogon> and for safety I keep that turned off.
[23:02] <TheSilentLink> Ah damn!
[23:02] <gordonDrogon> it also turns on the light and fans...
[23:02] <gordonDrogon> I have toyed with the idea of adding in more SSRs to control them, but its not worth it.
[23:02] <TheSilentLink> you use ssh to connect?
[23:03] <gordonDrogon> yes and no ...
[23:03] <TheSilentLink> its always yes and no lol
[23:03] <gordonDrogon> I know :)
[23:03] <gordonDrogon> I use ssh when I want to tinker with it, but normally to control it I use another way.
[23:03] <TheSilentLink> so you mean you need to turn it on at the button but you also use ssh to connect from then on?
[23:03] <TheSilentLink> whats the other way?
[23:04] <gordonDrogon> the network module in wiringPi.
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[23:04] <TheSilentLink> where is your bakery I want to come and see it, it seems so cool!!
[23:04] <gordonDrogon> it's at home, and it's very warm - the record is 37�C...
[23:05] <TheSilentLink> Oh you use it with your personal oven I thought you had a baking company!
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[23:05] <gordonDrogon> it's technically not a bakery as I don't have a shop-front. I sell wholesale.
[23:05] <TheSilentLink> Ah right you sell to supermarkets?
[23:06] <gordonDrogon> yes, I have a "baking company" - it's just one of those technical points - a bakery has a shop-front, I don't have that, so technically I'm a catering company ...
[23:06] <gordonDrogon> haha - no supermarkets!!!
[23:06] <gordonDrogon> they're evil.
[23:06] <TheSilentLink> maybe I could buy it from tesco!
[23:06] <gordonDrogon> I sell to local community shops, delis. etc.
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[23:06] <TheSilentLink> true true they are!
[23:06] <gordonDrogon> I only make at more 200 loaves a week.
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[23:07] <gordonDrogon> and with 2 exceptions, deliver to shops in a 5-mile radius.
[23:07] <TheSilentLink> You might sell to my local shops! Who knows!
[23:07] <gordonDrogon> do you live in Devon?
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[23:08] <TheSilentLink> Damn no the south east of the uk
[23:08] <gordonDrogon> just a bit far away then...
[23:08] <TheSilentLink> yea a shame!
[23:09] <TheSilentLink> this is ridiculous it is still compiling!!!!!!!
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[23:11] <gordonDrogon> what are you compiling?
[23:11] <TheSilentLink> znc
[23:12] <TheSilentLink> 1.6.4
[23:12] <gordonDrogon> ah.
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[23:12] <TheSilentLink> yea the ones included in raspbian is too old!!
[23:12] <TheSilentLink> are
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[23:13] <TheSilentLink> yea the one included in raspbian is too outdated* there that makes more sense!
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[23:13] <gordonDrogon> http://unicorn.drogon.net/IMG_20170223_074342.jpg <-- some of this mornings bread ...
[23:13] <TheSilentLink> STOP!! your making me hungry!
[23:13] <TheSilentLink> they look delicious!
[23:14] <gordonDrogon> good luck with the compile - bed time for me. 5am start..
[23:14] <TheSilentLink> thanks have a good night!!
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