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IRC Log for 2017-02-26

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[1:22] <sir_galahad_ad> ohai 2 u
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[2:47] <dumle29> Hello there :)
[2:47] <dumle29> Does anyone in here know of a hat for the pi-zero that adds a touchscreen?
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[3:21] <girlzgirls> ok, im at home now, can someone help me with the hdmi screen resolution?
[3:22] <girlzgirls> i have the 3.5 display
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[3:39] <hmoney-> what's wrong with the resolution?
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[5:01] <DexDeadly> has anyone used a jbtek 5v 8 channel relay board with a pi3
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[5:06] <aZz7eCh> i've used a few diff cheap relay boards with plenty of Pi2's
[5:07] <aZz7eCh> yep exactly same as what the jbtek appears to be. whats specific about pi3 ?
[5:09] <DexDeadly> So this is the combo i am currently using. One thing ive noticed is it is very touchy. if i give it a bump itll cause the relays to not operate correctly or demd them all on
[5:09] <ball> Blu Tak!
[5:09] <DexDeadly> turn them all on i mean
[5:09] <ball> Sorry ...flashback to the ZX-81 then.
[5:10] <aZz7eCh> DexDeadly, the relay board or pi is shorting? you have them insulated from surfaces ?
[5:10] <DexDeadly> i have the 5v wired to the vcc the gpio pins 1 thru 8 to the pi and the ground on the pi to the ground on the relay board
[5:10] <aZz7eCh> correct so far
[5:11] <DexDeadly> i have the board right now slid into some.wood that i notched out.
[5:12] <aZz7eCh> okay. so what about switches/buttons ... whats interacting with the gpio other than relay board outputs, or only outputs ? ... oh wait, have you told your code to pull up or pull down each pin initially ?
[5:12] <DexDeadly> so this is where i think is my issue
[5:13] <DexDeadly> i was following an instructable and this isnt mentioned at all. searching ive seen this.
[5:13] <aZz7eCh> the pullup/down code ?
[5:13] <DexDeadly> im using wiringpi
[5:13] <DexDeadly> pullup or down
[5:14] <DexDeadly> in mu rc.init i set each pin to an output
[5:14] <DexDeadly> and then i set them to 0
[5:14] <aZz7eCh> okay. i have to bow out of suggesting things. my exp is limited to controlling gpio through python scripts
[5:15] <DexDeadly> why
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[5:15] <DexDeadly> welltell me what you still do or suggest
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[5:16] <aZz7eCh> okay well for example. ... for gpio "INPUTS", buttons etc.. it has been my experince to be diligent and ensure they are pulled up or down. this utilizes the resistor in the pi to acheive the task I believe.
[5:16] <DexDeadly> my relays are controlling sockets in which i plan to use to control things for my reef tank
[5:17] <aZz7eCh> the code in python looks liek this for each one I want to do it to: GPIO.setup(10, GPIO.IN, pull_up_down=GPIO.PUD_UP)
[5:17] <DexDeadly> so thats trlling gpio pin 10 to be an input with a pull up resistor
[5:18] <aZz7eCh> this really does seem to be for controlling inputs better (to avoid false triggers as the gpios float) ... rather than outputs i would have thought. At least, in my code I certainly dont seem to have designated up or down states to any outputs. if i should have, someone please enlighten me.
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[5:23] <DexDeadly> im wondering if i should be setting my pins with up or down resistors. I believe these are remembered sre they not
[5:23] <DexDeadly> so since these sre outputs i should probably do down
[5:24] <DexDeadly> this way the volts arent fluctuating. what about the other ports.do i leave them be.
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[5:26] <aZz7eCh> if nothing is connected i believe you can yes
[5:28] <DexDeadly> ok
[5:28] <aZz7eCh> in python ... i have two lines for every "output". being ... GPIO.setup(17, GPIO.OUT) and then set it high... GPIO.output(17, GPIO.HIGH). So this sets that gpio/relay board connection as an output (probably takes care of the Up / Down business right there), and HIGH (off)
[5:29] <DexDeadly> yea min turns min into outputs and then sets them to 0
[5:29] <DexDeadly> using wiringpi
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[8:28] <Smeef> I have a tiny cooling fan that's 30mm x 30mm x 4mm, is there a name for this form factor?
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[8:32] <SpeedEvil> Smeef: teeeeeny
[8:33] <SpeedEvil> http://www.digikey.com/products/en/fans-thermal-management/dc-fans/217 - more seriously - there is a parametric selector
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[8:35] <SpeedEvil> http://www.digikey.com/products/en/fans-thermal-management/dc-fans/217?k=&pkeyword=&pv46=40582&pv46=40584&FV=ffe000d9&mnonly=0&newproducts=0&ColumnSort=0&page=1&quantity=0&ptm=0&fid=0&pageSize=500 - for example - 181 30*30mm fans
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[8:37] <Smeef> SpeedEvil: I found it, thanks for the link: http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/sunon-fans/UB5U3-700/259-1531-ND/2242564
[8:37] <SpeedEvil> yay
[8:38] <SpeedEvil> nice fans.
[8:38] <Smeef> Gonna mount it in an Altoids Tin Pi Zero build
[8:38] <Smeef> Assuming I've got enough spare power
[8:39] <SpeedEvil> There is absolutely no need whatsoever.
[8:40] <Smeef> I know, but it looks cool, lol
[8:40] <SpeedEvil> Unless you're operating in a ~60C or so environment.
[8:40] <SpeedEvil> fair enough
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[9:35] <oq> a fan for a pi0????
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[9:57] <bla> oq, try a radiator first maybe?
[9:57] <bla> Or. you're naming it. Ok. ;)
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[10:03] <gordonDrogon> DexDeadly, wiringPi can set the internal pull up/down resistors as required.
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[11:50] <Tims_Tech> is mirrordirector.raspbian.org (93.93.128.193) having issues?
[11:51] <Tims_Tech> E: Failed to fetch http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/pool/main/p/proxychains/proxychains_3.1-6_all.deb Unable to connect to mirrordirector.raspbian.org:http: [IP: 2a00:1098:0:80:1000:75:0:3 80]
[11:51] <Tims_Tech> I tried to do sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade and it doesn't seem to connect
[11:52] <Tims_Tech> when I try to install proxychains..I get that error ^^
[11:52] <yang> Tims_Tech: the maintainer said he's porting the archive elsewhere
[11:52] * Tims_Tech sighs
[11:52] <Tims_Tech> :P
[11:52] <Tims_Tech> okay
[11:53] <yang> try it later
[11:53] <Tims_Tech> okay
[11:53] <Tims_Tech> :P
[11:53] <Tims_Tech> thank you yang
[11:53] <yang> no problem
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[11:57] <RandomFactoid> Hey
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[11:59] <Tims_Tech> hi
[11:59] <RandomFactoid> I have a Rpi2 which is accessing the home network via wifi dongle. I have a device plugged into the rpi by an ethernet cable, which I want to access from the home network. What do i look for ?
[11:59] <RandomFactoid> Where do i start
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[12:18] <mlelstv> you can setup a second network (and that includes a routing configuration for all systems on your home network)
[12:18] <mlelstv> or you can play with redirects if your home router supports this
[12:19] <mlelstv> or you can play with a tunnel if your home router supports this
[12:19] <mlelstv> or you can try something called "proxy-arp" on the rpi
[12:19] <mlelstv> or you can use an application proxy on the rpi
[12:19] <mlelstv> that's the common methods
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[12:19] <mlelstv> that are
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[14:41] <EDinNY> Did I get this right? I have Raspian installed. I want to move what is easy, to my USB connected hard drive. I think I only need to have to have bin, lib, sbin, and etc available on the / partition in order to boot.
[14:44] <BurtyB> EDinNY, why not just move everything but /boot?
[14:45] <gordonDrogon> EDinNY, that's what I'd do - if I ever wanted to do that. One more thing to go wrong IME, however many people do just that...
[14:45] <EDinNY> hmm...I was going to leave the directories that don't change on the sd card...does the pi start with grub?
[14:46] <EDinNY> It has been a while since I did this kind of thing.
[14:47] <EDinNY> Did you mean that the hard drive is one more thing to go wrong?
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[14:48] <gordonDrogon> that plus it's power supply plus the cable can fall out ...
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[14:48] <gordonDrogon> the Pi has it's own bootloader - in ROM that loads a file (bootloader.bin) from the SD card.
[14:49] <gordonDrogon> the first partition on the SD card needs to be FAT formatted - it's the only format the ROM knows.
[14:49] <gordonDrogon> however there are things you can do on a Piv3 to make it boot directly from USB - but (IIRC) it's still experimental.
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[14:51] <EDinNY> Here is the machine https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e4/Otocinclus_affinis.JPG
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[14:52] <EDinNY> oops, wrong
[14:52] <EDinNY> This is the machine https://s27.postimg.org/x65038zeb/set_up3.jpg
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[14:53] <thecha> bought an power-adapter ouput voltage: 5.1 V-.-.-. 0.7 A....
[14:53] <thecha> is this powerful enough to supply a rpi 3b?
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[14:54] <EDinNY> How long is an SD card going to live if you continually write to it?
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[14:54] <gordonDrogon> if you are continually writing, then some people might suggest the Pi is not the best device, however the answer is: who knows.
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[14:55] <gordonDrogon> but many people do have root on external USB, so it does work - you just have to make sure it's reliable enough for you.
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[14:55] <ali1234> i'd put the lower bound at about ayear
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[14:55] <Paddy_NI> Is there any Raspberry Pi monitoring tools available for Linux?
[14:55] <gordonDrogon> copy the whole of root over using e.g. rsync, edit /boot/cmdline.txt and /etc/fstab and hope for the best ...
[14:55] <ali1234> assuming 32GB SD card, continuous writing at 10MB per second, and 10,000 rewrite cycles
[14:56] <gordonDrogon> Paddy_NI, the Pi is a Linux system - almost evrything that runs under Linux runs on the Pi.
[14:56] <Paddy_NI> Just for keeping an eye on temperature/ram/disk space etc
[14:56] <Paddy_NI> gordonDrogon: I am looking for something that runs on linux to monitor a remote pi
[14:56] <gordonDrogon> old world Nagios work, and mrtg, etc.
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[14:57] <gordonDrogon> there may be more modern stuff, but I've not looked for a few years.
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[14:57] <Paddy_NI> gordonDrogon: I know that it's running linux, I am not looking to run the software on the pi
[14:58] <Paddy_NI> I would like a way to check on my Pi's using my laptop or desktop without using ssh
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[14:58] <Paddy_NI> Like some of the monitoring tools available for android are cool
[14:58] <thecha> why can't you use ssh?
[14:59] <thecha> that would help find an alternative
[14:59] <Paddy_NI> thecha: I just want an at a glance view
[14:59] <gordonDrogon> that's what things like nagios are for - just google that and look for new alternatives.
[14:59] <Paddy_NI> With ssh it requires knowledge of the shell. I intend on giving these to my customers
[15:00] <Paddy_NI> They don't use the command line at all
[15:00] <gordonDrogon> you need to run something on the Pi to do the checks, then something remote can poll it to check, or it can push it to somewhere...
[15:00] <Paddy_NI> Even a web based monitor would be acceptable
[15:00] <Paddy_NI> gordonDrogon: Not with the android apps
[15:00] <Paddy_NI> You just point them at the pi's ip and bingo
[15:00] <gordonDrogon> on you go then.
[15:00] <Paddy_NI> On I go with what?
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[15:01] <thecha> paddy there is avariety of soultions that offer a webbased client wit a gui interface
[15:01] <gordonDrogon> getting it done - install what you need to on the Pi's and give you clients the user experience they want. I just made a few suggestions, that's all. let me know what you come up with.
[15:01] <Paddy_NI> thecha: Oh? that would be nice I am failing to find them
[15:02] <thecha> basically you can use any software that allows for server remote control with a gui clinet from web
[15:02] <thecha> hang on lemme google maybe i am mistaken or getting what you are looking for wrong but let me try
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[15:03] <gordonDrogon> writing something that gives you temperature, disk space, cpu usage and presenting it web wise is relatively easy. even with old style mrtg.
[15:04] <Paddy_NI> gordonDrogon: I am not looking to actually code anything myself
[15:04] <Paddy_NI> For example https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cea.raspmanager
[15:04] <Paddy_NI> Something like that for windows or linux would be great
[15:05] <thecha> https://www.dataplicity.com/
[15:05] <thecha> without ssh
[15:05] <thecha> or so they claim on their webpage
[15:05] <thecha> is this what you were looking for friend?
[15:06] <Paddy_NI> Actually maybe I am being a little confusing. I don't mind if it uses ssh on the backend. I am just not interested in giving the ssh connection duties to the clients/customers
[15:06] <Paddy_NI> Checking no thecha :-)
[15:06] <Paddy_NI> *now rather
[15:06] <gordonDrogon> Paddy_NI, oh, you just want install an App...
[15:06] <gordonDrogon> on the Pi.
[15:06] <Paddy_NI> No
[15:06] <thecha> standing by for final confirmation onf helpfulness of link
[15:07] <Paddy_NI> gordonDrogon: Let me see if I can make sense :-)
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[15:07] <Ad0> gordonDrogon: you CAN send multiple SPI messages in one batch
[15:07] <gordonDrogon> Ad0, yes, I think you can.
[15:07] <Ad0> SPI_IOC_MESSAGE(number of messages)
[15:08] <Paddy_NI> Currently I can install Raspmanager on my android phone and gain access to my pi with minimal fuss. However on linux or windows there is nothing so far as I can see
[15:08] <gordonDrogon> Ad0, let me know if it works - there was something on the forums about it a while back, but I'm not sure it actually worked.
[15:08] <Paddy_NI> To be clear all I had to do on the pi was enable ssh
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[15:09] <gordonDrogon> so raspmanager uses ssh and then issues commands... intersting.
[15:09] <Ad0> I will look in the kernel driver
[15:09] <Paddy_NI> gordonDrogon: Yes but the client does not have to do this, they just click an icon
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[15:11] <gordonDrogon> Paddy_NI, well if you don't want to write something, you could pay someone to write it for you - not hard to get the information and put it on a web page on the Pi.
[15:11] <Paddy_NI> gordonDrogon: I am looking for something that might already exist
[15:11] <Paddy_NI> I just have not found it
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[15:12] <Paddy_NI> I thought that here might be a good place to get information
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[15:12] <gordonDrogon> sometimes it is.
[15:12] <Paddy_NI> Depending on who you get I suppose
[15:12] <gordonDrogon> or what you want.
[15:12] <Paddy_NI> gordonDrogon: Tell me, do you wear shoes?
[15:12] <gordonDrogon> only when I go out.
[15:12] <Paddy_NI> gordonDrogon: So I take it you made them yourself?
[15:14] <duncanCnudan> Paddy_NI so the link i gave you was not what you were looking for?
[15:14] <Paddy_NI> duncanCnudan: You gave me a link?
[15:14] <duncanCnudan> you are looking for a way to remote connect your clients to a rpi, right?
[15:14] <duncanCnudan> yes
[15:14] <Paddy_NI> Yep
[15:14] <Paddy_NI> :-)
[15:14] <duncanCnudan> https://www.dataplicity.com/
[15:14] <Paddy_NI> Oh nick change
[15:14] <Paddy_NI> Did not see that
[15:14] <duncanCnudan> not it?
[15:15] <Paddy_NI> :-)
[15:15] <duncanCnudan> nobody did...
[15:15] <Paddy_NI> That's for shell access duncanCnudan
[15:15] <Paddy_NI> Not what I am looking for
[15:15] <duncanCnudan> ah and you want gui
[15:15] <duncanCnudan> gui and no ssh
[15:16] <duncanCnudan> basically a userfriendly
[15:16] <Paddy_NI> Just something with raspberry pi stats, such as temp/ram/disk and perhaps a button or two for turning it off etc
[15:16] <duncanCnudan> remp ram disk gotcha
[15:16] <Paddy_NI> If the gui uses ssh commands in the background I don't mind
[15:16] <Paddy_NI> Just so long as my customers can use it
[15:17] <gordonDrogon> Paddy_NI, I don't like being insulted like that.
[15:17] <Paddy_NI> I have for example some elderly clients that have an android tablet so fortunately the android app worked a treat
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[15:17] <gordonDrogon> Paddy_NI, I pay someone to make custom sized shoes for me - if that's the answer you want.
[15:18] <Paddy_NI> gordonDrogon: If you are going to be wilfully dense then expect to get that level of treatment
[15:18] <gordonDrogon> you've come here asking for stuff - you weren't clear on what it was you wanted - I presented some existing packages, that's all.
[15:18] <gordonDrogon> more insults by calling me willfully dense.
[15:18] <Paddy_NI> gordonDrogon: You answered a question that was never asked. I have been quite clear all in all
[15:19] <gordonDrogon> and I have given you suggestions.
[15:19] <Paddy_NI> A multi-platform version of this would be more or less what I wanted https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.eidottermihi.raspicheck
[15:19] <gordonDrogon> then ask that guy to write it for you. pay him money too... I'm sure he'll be more than willing.
[15:20] <duncanCnudan> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YaST
[15:20] <Paddy_NI> gordonDrogon: I doubt that will be required however I will keep it in mind as a last resort failing not finding soemthing that already does this
[15:21] <duncanCnudan> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAdmintools
[15:21] <Paddy_NI> No need to reinvent the wheel here
[15:21] <duncanCnudan> Paddy_NI
[15:21] <Paddy_NI> duncanCnudan:
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[15:22] <Paddy_NI> duncanCnudan: GAdmintools is a bit much for my needs. Did you look at raspicheck?
[15:22] <Paddy_NI> Or raspimonitor?
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[15:36] <Paddy_NI> duncanCnudan: This is spot on https://www.npmjs.com/package/pi-dashboard
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[15:42] <Paddy_NI> duncanCnudan: Actually dataplicity is much more elegant, thank you very much.
[15:43] <Paddy_NI> Pricing is actually really good too
[15:43] <gordonDrogon> you mean; free ?
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[15:46] <Paddy_NI> gordonDrogon: The free option is for one user only
[15:46] <gordonDrogon> sure, but right now it's free for all - until (I guess) the end of the month.
[15:46] <Paddy_NI> I don't mind paying for a professional product providing it does something a free on does not
[15:47] <Paddy_NI> I have a lot of clients so I don't mind paying for it, I give them the pi's for free too
[15:47] <gordonDrogon> the first one is free - which is good to let you test it though.
[15:48] <Paddy_NI> gordonDrogon: Absolutely, that inspires confidence
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[16:07] <Paddy_NI> Okay so I have a monitoring app that runs on android one for ios one for osx nothing really for windows and one for linux. I would say that is a good result so far :-)
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[16:08] <Paddy_NI> oh silly me, I forgot to check the chrome web store
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[16:10] <Paddy_NI> PhpSysInfo might meet my linux needs
[16:11] <Paddy_NI> RPi-Monitor is also a contender as it is a little less verbose
[16:12] <Paddy_NI> Hmm... I am going to have to rethink my workflow here
[16:12] <Paddy_NI> gordonDrogon: Sorry about before, thank you for helping me I do appreciate it very much. Have a good day :-)
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[16:15] <gordonDrogon> have fun.
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[17:23] <AndreeeCZ> hello! Can RPi3 go into a hard lock, because the temperature is at 64C ?
[17:23] <AndreeeCZ> both CPU and GPU
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[17:25] <gordonDrogon> no
[17:25] <Chillum> it can get hotter than that just fine
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[17:25] <gordonDrogon> AndreeeCZ, at 80�C it will throttle down the processor speed, but that's all.
[17:25] <AndreeeCZ> hmm
[17:25] <AndreeeCZ> what can cause the RPi to go to a hard lock?
[17:25] <AndreeeCZ> propably, regarding low latency USB audio
[17:26] <AndreeeCZ> i can't even run my app in gdb, since it locks the app, the debugger and the whole system, so only a hard reboot is a way out
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[17:26] <AndreeeCZ> USB audio and opengl
[17:28] <gordonDrogon> maybe you need lower level debugging - good old printf() ...
[17:30] <AndreeeCZ> what do you mean?
[17:30] <gordonDrogon> just that - put lines in your code: printf ("got to here\n"); etc. to find out where its stopping - and to see if its repeatable, etc.
[17:31] <gordonDrogon> also - try another Pi just in-case it's a hardware fault.
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[17:32] <AndreeeCZ> gordonDrogon, i have tried performing all sorts of debugging, including being more verbose
[17:32] <gordonDrogon> ok
[17:33] <mfa298_> If it's locking up the kernel magic SysRQ calls might let you get some debug out if it's enabled in the kernel, but that needs a console session on the pi (keyboard+monitor or serial)
[17:33] <AndreeeCZ> but the locks are completely unpredictable
[17:33] <AndreeeCZ> i could try with a serial
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[17:37] <ali1234> try ssh
[17:39] <AndreeeCZ> ali1234, i am launching the app via ssh. The ssh dies along with the rest.
[17:39] <ali1234> serial probably wont help then
[17:39] <AndreeeCZ> When launching automatically after boot (without ssh) it dies aswell
[17:39] <ali1234> you probably have a bug in your opengl code, combined with a bug in the firmware that is freezing the GPU
[17:40] <ali1234> it is really easy to crash a GPU with bad GL code
[17:40] <AndreeeCZ> ali1234, is it relevant that the last frame stays on the display?
[17:40] <AndreeeCZ> (official RPi touchscreen)
[17:40] <ali1234> not really, what else would it do?
[17:40] <ali1234> what does your code do?
[17:40] <AndreeeCZ> it's a synthesizer
[17:40] <ali1234> what does it do with opengl?
[17:40] <AndreeeCZ> audio backend and opengl frontend
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[17:41] <ali1234> what opengl functions does it use?
[17:41] <AndreeeCZ> note: it does never crash on x86_64
[17:41] <ali1234> do you use vertex buffers?
[17:41] <AndreeeCZ> ali1234, vertex buffers, yes
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[17:41] <AndreeeCZ> but i use SDL so all of that is abstracted
[17:41] <ali1234> a bad vertex buffer can easily crash the GPU
[17:41] <ali1234> abstracted how?
[17:41] <AndreeeCZ> but SDL is using vertex buffers
[17:42] <AndreeeCZ> meaning i don't deal with opengl directly, but through SDL
[17:42] <ali1234> so what functions do you use?
[17:42] <AndreeeCZ> like these: https://wiki.libsdl.org/SDL_RenderDrawLine
[17:43] <ali1234> so you only use SDL_Render?
[17:43] <AndreeeCZ> yes
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[17:43] <AndreeeCZ> meaning that i dont do raw opengl myself
[17:44] <ali1234> i would try disabling various parts of the program
[17:44] <AndreeeCZ> i have been trying that for days
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[17:44] <ali1234> and what happened?
[17:44] <AndreeeCZ> and i didn't arrive to a conclusion
[17:44] <ali1234> why not?
[17:44] <AndreeeCZ> i know it sounds lame, but the locks are completely unpredictable
[17:45] <AndreeeCZ> but now that you say it, this must be the way, so i'll carry on
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[17:45] <ali1234> it might just be a bad power supply
[17:47] <AndreeeCZ> i've fiddled with that also. I installed a cap to smooth out the spikes and i get no "power symbol"
[17:47] <AndreeeCZ> would it help if i monitored the voltage on the various parts of the pi?
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[17:47] <AndreeeCZ> like monitorix or manually
[17:48] <ali1234> not really
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[17:48] <AndreeeCZ> would that not display some sort of rise or spike just before a lock?
[17:49] <ali1234> not unless you use an oscilloscope
[17:50] <AndreeeCZ> how so? i've come across a place where you read voltages
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[17:50] <ali1234> how long do you think it takes for a transient to crash the pi?
[17:51] <AndreeeCZ> i agree that a transient would be skipped, but maybe there's some longer event taking place on every hardlock
[17:51] <AndreeeCZ> i don't have a scope so i cant do that atm
[17:52] <Ad0> gordonDrogon: it seems to work
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[17:52] <Ad0> the multiple packet SPI
[17:52] <Ad0> but something's off
[17:52] <Ad0> like it's off by 1 message
[17:52] <AndreeeCZ> ali1234, ok i have now disabled the whole opengl thread and it locked up, so there's that
[17:52] <ali1234> you are using threads?
[17:53] <AndreeeCZ> yes
[17:53] <AndreeeCZ> 3
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[17:53] <ali1234> well, disable the audio thread
[17:54] <AndreeeCZ> on it now
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[18:02] <Ad0> gordonDrogon: if (channelIndex < channelCount - 1) tr.cs_change = 1;
[18:02] <Ad0> I had to do that
[18:02] <Ad0> lol
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[18:16] <AndreeeCZ> ali1234, it still runs without audio, so that one is likely the cause
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[18:29] <gordonDrogon> Ad0, hi - so you're reading multiple channels in a single operation now?
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[18:31] <Ad0> yes
[18:31] <Ad0> my code handles a dynamic array of channel IDs
[18:32] <Ad0> at a vastly lower CPU usage
[18:32] <Ad0> it takes under half now
[18:33] <gordonDrogon> that's good.
[18:33] <gordonDrogon> wonder if I could work that idea into wiringPi somehow.
[18:33] <gordonDrogon> I guess if it's as easy to read 8 channels a 1 and not much more time, then I could just do it and sort of keep them cached..
[18:34] <Ad0> now it's 8 channels and I am just using 10%
[18:34] <Ad0> that is sampling 1024 samples and sleep for 400 ms
[18:34] <Ad0> per channel
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[18:37] <Ad0> I am not sure if it's workin correctly though
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[18:43] <EDinNY> what does "root" mean, and why are there 2 entries in general/config?
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[18:43] <redrabbit> i can't seem to find cheap 4gb sd card anymore
[18:43] <redrabbit> only 8gb and usually low class
[18:44] <redrabbit> any good sources for cheap microsd
[18:44] <redrabbit> looks like the price is the same everywhere
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[18:44] <EDinNY> I got a 32 gb high class for about $10
[18:44] <mfa298_> EDinNY: some more context might help
[18:45] <redrabbit> EDinNY: where
[18:45] <EDinNY> I am in the Sickgear config general page
[18:45] <mfa298_> redrabbit: i'd spend a bit more on a decent 8GB+ card. My experience of buying cheap is that it costs more in the long run
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[18:45] <redrabbit> mfa298_: atm i only have brand names cards
[18:46] <redrabbit> but there was lots more low capacity at low prices before
[18:46] <redrabbit> i dont need more than 4gb
[18:46] <EDinNY> redrabbit: is Samsung a good enough brand? https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IVPU786/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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[18:46] <redrabbit> its fine but i dont need that space
[18:46] <redrabbit> ^^
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[18:47] <mfa298> redrabbit: I've used plenty of cheap SD cards in the Pi before and it gets a bit tedious re-fashing it several times a day when they get corrupted.
[18:47] <redrabbit> good to know
[18:47] <EDinNY> is there a reason NOT to have that much space if your device recognises it? or if you want GREEN one https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DOB6Y5Q/ref=amb_link_501551202_2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=hero-quick-promo&pf_rd_r=Q1QP1CVXHHFS1GP4B2RM&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_p=2807421562&pf_rd_i=B00IVPU786
[18:47] <redrabbit> i dont look for low quality
[18:47] <redrabbit> but low capacity
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[18:48] <redrabbit> it should be cheaper to get 4gb
[18:48] <redrabbit> but its not
[18:48] <redrabbit> price per gb wise
[18:48] <redrabbit> its a ripoff
[18:48] <EDinNY> Because they sell very few 4's these days, so it is more expensive
[18:48] <redrabbit> makes sense
[18:48] <mfa298> redrabbit: probably not by enoguh to make it worth it. Price/GB tends to get much better as you buy more capacity
[18:48] <gennro> yeah just like 15' monitors
[18:48] <gennro> 15"
[18:48] <redrabbit> that's why i had to pick 8gb
[18:49] <EDinNY> Try to buy a specific model of a new VCR recorder and see what you spend
[18:49] <redrabbit> id like to be able to source 4gb cards for really cheap
[18:49] <mfa298> dont forget part of the cost is going towards R&D, Manufacture, packaging etc. Those don't change much between 4/8/16/32 gb cards
[18:49] <redrabbit> like old stocks or something
[18:49] <redrabbit> ^^
[18:49] <redrabbit> indeed
[18:50] <EDinNY> Back to my problem, in general config, it says "Show root directories", and has 2 entries.
[18:50] <EDinNY> What does that mean?
[18:50] <mfa298> also most of the time a larger card will mean more free space in the filesytem which means things don't slow to a crawl
[18:50] <redrabbit> im looking for for a deal where you get like 10 cards in a pack
[18:50] <redrabbit> then the packing/shipping would be worthy
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[18:51] <redrabbit> i dont need space or speed its for a project where im gonna plant like 10 orange pi zero at different locations
[18:51] <mfa298> unless your never going to use >3G of the filesytem then I'd go for a bigger card. (when you start using >80% of a filsystem performance drops)
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[18:52] <redrabbit> ill probably not use more than a couple gb
[18:52] <redrabbit> only a bit of software and text based data
[18:52] <redrabbit> its gonna be connected so the data will go elsewhere
[18:53] <redrabbit> kind of ridiculous to get sd cards that are more expensive than the computer itself
[18:53] <redrabbit> ^^
[18:53] <mfa298> you realise the time now expended on this is probably worth more than the extra $1 per card it's likely to cost for 8gb cards
[18:53] <redrabbit> i got 8gb cards anyway
[18:53] <gennro> even 32gb cards are dirt cheap these days
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[18:54] <redrabbit> the orange pi costs 6$99
[18:54] <redrabbit> its for large scale deployment
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[18:54] <redrabbit> the psu costs 2$
[18:54] <redrabbit> then there is the sd card
[18:54] <redrabbit> :/
[18:55] <gennro> ah I see you don't need big cards cause you aren't storing any data on the pi
[18:55] <redrabbit> nope
[18:55] <redrabbit> i only need lowest cost
[18:55] <mfa298> maybe you got the wrong non raspberry device then, although that debate is going more off topic than this already is
[18:55] <gennro> yeah that makes sense, yeah I guess 8gb is going to be your bang for the buck
[18:56] <redrabbit> mfa298: nope its the perfect non rpi device
[18:56] <redrabbit> you cant find cheaper
[18:56] <redrabbit> but youre right its not on topic
[18:57] <redrabbit> i thought you guys had plans for sd
[18:57] <gennro> redrabbit, can you use the same gpio library's as a rpi?
[18:57] <mfa298> I can think of one that has onboard storage for cheaper than $7+SD (unless your SD is cheaper than $3)
[18:57] <redrabbit> gennro: i have not tried yet
[18:57] <redrabbit> probably not
[18:58] <redrabbit> mfa298: interesting
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[18:58] <redrabbit> you can find sd under 3$ for sure
[18:58] <gennro> yeah I just looked it up, it requires a different library
[18:58] <redrabbit> mfa298: what is that boar
[18:58] <redrabbit> d
[18:59] <gennro> but looks pretty much the same as far as setting up pins
[18:59] <redrabbit> does it have wifi and ethernet integrated
[18:59] <gordonDrogon> there are ports of wiringPi to other devices, but there is no support for it.
[18:59] <gennro> http://www.instructables.com/id/Orange-Pi-One-Python-GPIO-basic/step2/Test-It/
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[19:00] <gennro> meh, it may be cheaper but I better rpi has way better support
[19:00] <redrabbit> yes
[19:00] <gennro> sorry my brain to fingers doesn't work the best
[19:01] <redrabbit> i have both
[19:01] <BiloxiGeek> Got an RPi3 running pi-hole and I'm tring to turn on IPv6 since I just got a tunnel set up, so far I can get the module to load but I never seem to get the IPv6 address set up. Any tips?
[19:01] <redrabbit> i like them for different reasons
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[19:03] <mfa298> BiloxiGeek: have got the tunnel setup or is that what you're trying to do. The tunnel broker should have some instructions but I think most tunnels require your endpoint to be on a public IP (not behind nat) and benefit from a static IP as well
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[19:04] <BiloxiGeek> mfa298: my tunnel is working, using pfSense for that, I'd like to get the pi-hole on the v6 so it can resolve/block there as well. And maybe just cause I want all my IPv6 capable stuff on v6.
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[19:05] <mfa298> if the tunnel device / router is setup properly then IPv6 should just work on raspbia
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[19:06] <mfa298> My Pis are all accessible over IPv6 with not config on them needed
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[19:07] <BiloxiGeek> mfa298: I had it disabled when I first installed the pi-hole, been using it for six months or so, now adding in IPv6 to mix. I think I might have to reinstal the pi-hole from scratch but I'd rather not if I can avoid it, thought if I can figure out why the v6 address won't activate I could get around the reinstall
[19:08] <gennro> hmmm neat you can run pi-hole in a virtual machine
[19:09] <Ad0> is there a way to ensure that I have constant clock freq
[19:09] <Ad0> should force_turbo be 0 or 1?
[19:09] <BiloxiGeek> gennro: I really like the pi-hole, I had an Adtrap before they disappeared.
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[19:09] <gennro> BiloxiGeek, Yeah I think I will set it up today on my mediapc as a virtual machine
[19:11] <BiloxiGeek> gennro: besides just blocking ads, I've been able to get around things like the Washington Post website which only allows like 10 article views per month unless you pay them a monthly subscription fee.
[19:11] <gennro> very nice
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[19:12] <BiloxiGeek> Gonna try a fresh pi-hole install and see if that fixes things.
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[19:17] <BiloxiGeek> What would be the first couple of things to check in rasbian to turn on IPv6 for a Pi that doesn't currently have it enabled. Still new to Rasbian, I'm mostly a RHEL and Fedora guy.
[19:17] <BiloxiGeek> The module does load at boot
[19:19] <mfa298> BiloxiGeek: are other devices on the network picking up an IPv6 address ?
[19:20] <BiloxiGeek> mfa298: yep
[19:20] <BiloxiGeek> I may have just found the problem, sysctl conf file
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[19:23] <BiloxiGeek> Cool, it's picking up an address, now to see if it'll correctly get a DHCPDv6 address
[19:23] <Ad0> I need to have a constant clock frequency
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[19:26] <Ad0> SPI fails when the system is stressed
[19:26] <Ad0> the clock frequency goes from 600 to 1200 and after that SPI is screwed
[19:27] <BiloxiGeek> Had to delete a cache file for dhclient so it would pick up a new lease from a static assignment coming from the pfSense box. Think I got it licked now.
[19:28] <EDinNY> Can someone give me a web address for docs?
[19:30] <EDinNY> oops. wrong group!
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[19:40] <gennro> forgot I had some odroids laying around
[19:40] <gennro> i'll install pi-hole on that
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[19:41] <Chillum> I have some odroids, never used them
[19:41] <Chillum> they were super cheap on ebay so I got a couple
[19:42] <gennro> yeah same here
[19:42] <gennro> would be perfect to run pi-hole though
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[19:44] <Chillum> lol @ pi-hole installation: curl -sSL https://some-domain.net | bash
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[19:49] <gennro> so many updates
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[20:14] <mfa298> Chillum: there seem to be quite a few things that isntall like that, at least it's over https
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[20:16] <Chillum> it is such a bad practice
[20:16] <Chillum> just serve up rm -rf ~/ for lulz
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[20:17] <mfa298> I think the first thing I saw doing that was the nessus security scanner, and in those days it might not even have been over https
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[20:18] <mfa298> I'm not sure it's any worse than randomly adding apt repositries, they could always include a script that does the same thing as part of the package installation
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[20:45] <verahsa> I have a random question that I hope someone has a few minutes to help me out with regarding a 3M old vga+rs232 touch screen. I was able to get the video working with a simple hdmi->vga adapter. i plugged in the serial port into a usb/serial converter, and the pi sees input on /dev/ttyUSB0 ... How do I get this to work as a touch screen?
[20:46] <Emil> verahsa: did you check that you can actually use it with ttl serial port?
[20:47] <verahsa> Emil: I'm not sure precisely what you're asking. The 3M C1500SS is designed to be run via serial com port... I had assumed that a usb/serial port would function for that
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[20:49] <Emil> verahsa: well, you see
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[20:50] <Emil> if it is old it might want and will use the real rs-232 interface
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[20:50] <Emil> which needs +-10v (probably at least) on the datalines to work
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[20:51] <Emil> So you might want to check if it is a real rs-232 inteface that you are connecting to. Otherwise you risk breaking things
[20:52] <Emil> TTL means that voltage levels are 0-5 (or 0-3.3 for newer, not ttl but serial still) volts
[20:52] <Emil> You can google TTL serial
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[20:54] <verahsa> I'm fairly familiar with com port based serial data, it's one of the sub-jobs i have to deal with at work (both an old audix/pots/terminal system as well as proprietary ~1975 era multi-button keyboards for control systems). I might argue that another day, however as this is an output from the monitor and an input to the 'computer' (in this case the pi 3)...
[20:54] <verahsa> the monitor feeds data from the 9pin output to the "computer" it connects to. The Pi is properly seeing data with any/every touch with no issue, which leads me to believe it's not a "voltage over com port" issue
[20:54] <verahsa> I'm no expert, obviously, but I'm not unfamiliar
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[20:55] <Emil> Oh if you get data (it wasn't clear before) then you are fine with the serial aspect of it
[20:56] <verahsa> *nod* Sorry that I wasn't verbose enough *grin*
[20:56] <Emil> ;)
[20:56] <Emil> So now you want a driver that translates that serial data to touch screen commands
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[20:56] <verahsa> I'm used to *being* the support, for windows based systems & a tdc3000 conrol system. i tinker with linux but am *far* from an expert
[20:57] <verahsa> Pretty much. I found a couple "linux" drivers, but none for arm processors
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[20:58] <Emil> You have validated the data and its fromat?
[20:58] <Emil> format*
[20:59] <verahsa> *that* is something that I frankly don't know how to do.
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[20:59] <Emil> YOu said "The Pi is properly seeing data with any/every touch with no issue
[20:59] <Emil> "
[20:59] <Emil> So you mean that there is just something visible on the serial port?
[20:59] <verahsa> It is decidedly seeing data as evidenced by "cat /dev/ttyUSB0" and touching the screen
[20:59] <Emil> But you don't know what
[20:59] <verahsa> Precisely
[21:00] <Emil> Okay so I doubt there is a linux driver for it directly
[21:00] <Emil> But the format is probably easily understandable
[21:00] <verahsa> It looks very similar to how my mouse input looked when I tried to get a mouse working back in the days of my experimentation with redhat in the late 90s
[21:00] <Emil> Can you save a bit of that data to a file and analyse it (and let us also have a look ;D)?
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[21:01] <Emil> So it's ascii data?
[21:01] <verahsa> *nod* Where would you have me place it?
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[21:02] <Emil> Gist is fine
[21:02] <Emil> I personally don't really care where but some (and they have a point) say that for example pastebin is cancer
[21:02] <Emil> But I reckon a gist is one of the better ones
[21:03] <Emil> https://gist.github.com/
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[21:04] <Ad0> gordonDrogon: do you want some source code?
[21:05] <Emil> I think you could probably quite easily adapt the driver of the official 7" touch screen
[21:05] <Emil> It takes input from i2c but you could probably really easily change it to serial
[21:05] <verahsa> https://gist.github.com/verahsa/8c37a251f62fd6519e13307b809d6d35
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[21:06] <verahsa> Sorry, took a minute. Chatting on the computer as it behaves better... pasting to github took a minute on the pi. :)
[21:06] <Emil> verahsa: I recommend investing in a vps or other personal server: the benefits are really damn nice
[21:06] <Emil> (I run digitalocean but am thinking about switching to OVH)
[21:06] <Emil> Okay so
[21:07] <Emil> That paste is not really usable
[21:07] <Emil> Can you save the raw data to a file and upload somewhere?
[21:07] <Emil> Any file sharing service will do
[21:07] <verahsa> I have my own server, i just don't post that publicly. I'll output it to a file, gimme a sec.
[21:08] <Emil> Ah. Well, if it is public then obfuscation provides only limited protection but I can understand your point
[21:08] <Ad0> is it possible to have a solid CPU freqency
[21:08] <Ad0> it seems to jump between 600 and 1200 in "performance"
[21:08] <Emil> Ad0: you mean stable? Of course
[21:09] <Emil> disable power savings and anything that has things to do with that
[21:09] <Ad0> shifting CPU frequency screws up SPI communication
[21:09] <Emil> Lololo
[21:09] <Ad0> ioctl returns -1 when it happens
[21:09] <Ad0> lol
[21:09] <Emil> Didn't that problem exist with the serial driver also?
[21:09] <Ad0> if it gets changed DURING an SPI transfer
[21:09] <Emil> BUt they fixed it
[21:10] <Emil> If SPI has been affected all along, too, that's just weak
[21:10] <Ad0> well it seems like I can't trust the raspberry PI at all on this
[21:10] <Emil> Ad0: what are you doing anyways?
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[21:10] <Ad0> have to put everything on an atmel
[21:10] <Ad0> and make it send data over serial
[21:10] <Ad0> if that works :P
[21:10] <Emil> If it is real time you shouldn't even really think about using a stock kernel and doing real time
[21:10] <Ad0> Emil: I am porting the emoncms code to pure raspberry pi
[21:11] <Emil> What do you need SPI for, then?
[21:11] <Ad0> to talk to the ADC
[21:11] <Emil> verahsa: also can you tell me what do you do on the screen while you get the output?
[21:11] <Ad0> I was hoping to avoid using a shield with an atmel on it
[21:11] <Ad0> and rather just have a DAC
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[21:11] <Emil> verahsa: something like going trough the edges of the screen would be benefitial
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[21:11] <Ad0> but reading data isn't reliable at all
[21:11] <Emil> beneficial*
[21:12] <Ad0> I don't really need realtime
[21:12] <Ad0> I just need it to not change CPU frequency all the time
[21:12] <Ad0> :)
[21:12] <Emil> Ad0: but that's not relevant to porting emoncms ;) anycase yeah, if you want stable real time performance, put it to the atmel and then on request send it out through usb or serial
[21:12] <Ad0> ok
[21:12] <Ad0> that aws my original solution
[21:13] <Ad0> I wasted 3 days on this LOL
[21:13] <Emil> :DD
[21:13] <Emil> YOu probably learned quite a bit
[21:13] <Ad0> the original solution just pushes a ready made string
[21:13] <Ad0> which I parse with json
[21:13] <Ad0> over serial communication but I hate flashing and what happens if you need to update the logics
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[21:13] <Ad0> you would need to take the chip out and flash it
[21:13] <Ad0> lol
[21:14] <Ad0> or use arduino
[21:14] <Emil> Eh?
[21:14] <Emil> Just use a chip with a serial bootloader
[21:14] <Emil> Easy af to use and update
[21:14] <Ad0> are there any nice ones?
[21:14] <Emil> What do you mean by that?
[21:14] <verahsa> Emil: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B1LXc_Cjhf10V2JxQk05aDh3NG8 and there is a test.inp file
[21:14] <Ad0> serial bootloader
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[21:15] <Ad0> what's that?
[21:15] <Emil> Ad0: so okay
[21:15] <Ad0> can't I just use arduino then
[21:16] <Emil> Ad0: what do you actually know about AVR's and arduinos?
[21:16] <Ad0> it has a bootloader and everything
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[21:16] <Ad0> I know some things, I ported the emoncms scetches to pure AVR code ;)
[21:16] <Ad0> I have an AVRISP MK II programmer
[21:16] <Ad0> and all that crpa
[21:17] <gordonDrogon> just been doing some ATmega coding this afternoon too.
[21:17] <Ad0> my code seems to work OK gordonDrogon but unfortunally I don't have any use for it lol.
[21:18] <Emil> verahsa: thanks, I'll take a look
[21:18] <Emil> Ad0: okay so pretty much all avrs support having a bootloader
[21:19] <Ad0> you basically pass an array of spi_ioc_transfer to ioctl() and state the array amount in SPI_IOC_MESSAGE
[21:19] <Emil> a bootloader is a piece of code that (often) resides in a special location on a microcontroller
[21:19] <Emil> that can update the main flash
[21:19] <Ad0> yeah in the bootloader section
[21:19] <Ad0> I just wonder why there aren't any ready to use bootloaders on github or something
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[21:19] <gordonDrogon> I prefer using a programmer, but a bootloader is often OK. I use a Pi as a direct programmer.
[21:19] <Ad0> I just want arduino without the bloat
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[21:20] <Ad0> :D
[21:20] <Emil> "Arduino" (the avr boards) are nothing more than arduino branded (minimum) development boards and the ucs have a serial bootloader on them
[21:20] <Ad0> yes
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[21:20] <Ad0> they have several layers of code
[21:20] <Emil> Ad0: you can program any avr based arduino with avrdude from the commandline
[21:20] <Emil> Ad0: no, they dont
[21:20] <Ad0> so to do their analogRead it goes through a bunch of stuff
[21:20] <Emil> That's the "arduino" hal you are using
[21:21] <Emil> which is shitty
[21:21] <Emil> the boards are fine
[21:21] <Ad0> yes
[21:21] <Ad0> it's the HAL I mean :)
[21:21] <gordonDrogon> in a family friendly sort of way, I hope ...
[21:21] <gordonDrogon> Emil, ^
[21:21] <Emil> gordonDrogon: poopy
[21:21] <Ad0> lol
[21:21] <Emil> Ad0: You can program any arduino from the commandline
[21:21] <Emil> and that's what arduino wraps in its IDE
[21:21] <Emil> poopy ide
[21:21] <Ad0> yeah I think I need to do that
[21:22] <Ad0> to make it easier for the person who would take over
[21:22] <Ad0> what chip would you recommend for 3 ADCs and serial for this purpose
[21:22] <Ad0> and reliable serial
[21:22] <Ad0> is attiny84 enough ?
[21:22] <gordonDrogon> Pi plus a DAC?
[21:22] <Ad0> or is that only single direction
[21:23] <gordonDrogon> *ADC
[21:23] <Ad0> hm gordonDrogon ?
[21:23] <gordonDrogon> the ATtinys are good - only 4K of flash IIRC.
[21:23] <gordonDrogon> I did some code for the one on the Gertduino.
[21:23] <Emil> Ad0: you can look at https://emil.fi/avr and to program and arduino one, just use ./acr $1 atmega328p "arduino -b 115200 -P $port"
[21:24] <Emil> instead of ./acr file device usbasp
[21:24] <gordonDrogon> Ad0, if the data you're sampling has to be on the Pi, you might as well use the Pi rather than an Atmega though
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[21:24] <Emil> Ad0: what kind of perf are you looking for?
[21:25] <gordonDrogon> anyway, I'm off to bake a cake or 2.
[21:25] <Emil> Personally I'd rather solve the spi issue than use an additional uc
[21:27] <Ad0> gordonDrogon: the problem is that I can't do an even sampling
[21:27] <Ad0> the clock of the CPU just shifts so suddenly it takes half the time
[21:27] <Ad0> lol
[21:28] <Ad0> and having a wall clock per sample is too intense
[21:28] <Ad0> I want to measure a 3-4 full cycles of 50Hz AC ampere
[21:28] <Ad0> and I'd like 200 samples per cycle or something
[21:29] <Ad0> so 1/50 / 200 = 0.0001 sec
[21:29] <Ad0> I guess I would need a kernel with RT_PREEMT
[21:29] <Ad0> and soon development time exceeds just using an AVR with a circuit and shield
[21:29] <Ad0> lol
[21:30] <Ad0> so maybe 100 samples per cycle then = 2 ms
[21:30] <Emil> Ad0: what are you actually trying to achieve?
[21:30] <Ad0> if I can have jitter within 2 ms I am happy
[21:30] <Emil> Why do you want to measure mains?
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[21:30] <Ad0> yep mains ampere
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[21:30] <Ad0> for power usage
[21:31] <Emil> Eh?
[21:31] <Ad0> and you need to do RMS since it's not a perfect sine
[21:31] <Emil> Eeeeh?
[21:31] <Ad0> lol
[21:31] <Ad0> you know emoncms
[21:31] <Emil> Are you measuring from the wall?
[21:31] <Ad0> no
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[21:31] <Ad0> the main intake phases
[21:31] <Ad0> let me show you
[21:31] <mfa298> Ad0: if the linux scheduler is the issue you can change it
[21:32] <Ad0> https://learn.openenergymonitor.org/electricity-monitoring/ct-sensors/interface-with-arduino
[21:32] <Ad0> mfa298: cool
[21:32] <Emil> Ad0: Ah
[21:32] <Ad0> the SPI and looping needs ot be stable
[21:32] <Emil> you want to use something like that
[21:32] <Ad0> I want to skip the AVR part
[21:32] <Emil> Ad0: so A) you might want to use a spi adc for it
[21:32] <Ad0> it would be nice with even less HW costs
[21:32] <Ad0> that's what I do now Emil
[21:32] <Ad0> I do both
[21:32] <Ad0> I tried both
[21:32] <Ad0> AVR is stable
[21:33] <Emil> Ad0: and then just calculate the average and push it out of uart as you please
[21:33] <Ad0> it's sort of garantueed with an AVR
[21:33] <Ad0> yup done that already
[21:33] <Ad0> I just explored this area
[21:33] <Emil> Ad0: what you could also do
[21:33] <Ad0> if it's a reliable way to do the same with PI and MCP2008
[21:33] <Ad0> 3008*
[21:33] <mfa298> Ad0: either chrt on the process, or pthread_setschedparam inside the relevant thread
[21:33] <Emil> is just use a cheap af usb audio card
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[21:33] <Ad0> I need 3 inputs
[21:33] <Ad0> :P
[21:34] <Ad0> I prefer to use a normal ADC
[21:34] <mfa298> Ad0: this is what I did years ago to set the scheduler for a thread, https://github.com/m1ari/Sandals/blob/master/rtty.cxx#L109-L124
[21:34] <mfa298> that gave pretty good timing on a Pi1 to bitbang rtty (serial) data on a gpio pin.
[21:35] <Emil> Ad0: you also don't exactly need super exact timing for it
[21:35] <Emil> Ad0: you can just sample fast enough with timestamps
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[21:39] <Ad0> mfa298:
[21:39] <Ad0> cool
[21:39] <Ad0> I am already in C
[21:40] <Emil> verahsa: you can look at this https://www.adafruit.com/product/2718
[21:40] <Emil> The driver gets the touch screen data through i2c iirc
[21:40] <Emil> so if you can modify the driver a bit it should just wek
[21:40] <Emil> werk
[21:40] <verahsa> Not a bad idea. Thank you! ;)
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[21:42] <Emil> verahsa: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=22041&p=208701
[21:42] <Emil> Also try looking here
[21:43] <Ad0> how would that screen hold up in a car wash
[21:43] <Ad0> :D
[21:43] <Ad0> I mean inside a protective film or something
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[21:43] <Ad0> those people at adafruit must love their jobs
[21:43] <Ad0> they get to code for all the new stuff they get in
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[21:44] <Ad0> mfa298: what does the scheduling code do?
[21:44] <Ad0> do youy set any CPU parameters like force_turbo =1
[21:44] <Ad0> I get between 102 and 64 ms measuring time on the same amount of samples
[21:45] <mfa298> Ad0: it's setting the scheduler to use SCHED_FIFO, which should make it run more regularly
[21:45] <Ad0> so the scheduling doesn't do anything about the CPU frequency
[21:47] <Ad0> cool mfa298
[21:47] <mfa298> I don't think it's got any relation to cpu frequency (although it might force it to stay high)
[21:48] <Ad0> mfa298: does java do this in normal thread priority
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[21:48] <mfa298> man sched looks like it gives a fair bit of detail, I've not done much with this in a while
[21:48] <Ad0> I gget ioctl failures
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[21:57] <Ad0> ioctl(fildes = 4 "/dev/spidev0.0", request = _IOW('k', 0, int[48]), void *data = 0x761DFF58) failed, Invalid argument (22, EINVAL) because ioctl request or ioctl data is not valid
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[21:58] <Ad0> ah didn't memset it
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[21:58] <Ad0> libexplain to the rescue!
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[22:01] <Ad0> so what should I do to have even timing ?
[22:01] <Ad0> Measurement took 102 ms
[22:01] <Ad0> then
[22:01] <Ad0> Measurement took 73 ms
[22:01] <Smeef> Rebuilt my tin, had to put the new display on the outside because it would fit inside: http://i.imgur.com/EjZaAu2.jpg
[22:01] <Ad0> it's because the CPU jumps from 600 to 1200 mhz
[22:01] <Smeef> wouldn't*
[22:01] <Ad0> I need to stop that
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[22:02] <Ad0> nice Smeef
[22:03] <Smeef> wish there were a tiny USB keyboard that would fit in there
[22:03] <H__> looks like a fun contraption
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[22:07] <Smeef> It's got WiFi as well, the idea is that I can connect it to almost any network and then xRDP into it like a regular desktop
[22:09] <oq> Smeef: neat, are the ethernet & audio connectors from cheap usb adaptors soldered directly to a usb hub?
[22:09] <Smeef> oq: Yep
[22:10] <Smeef> I used IDE ribbon cables to connect everything
[22:10] <oq> Smeef: what method did you use to power the pi0 off a battery?
[22:10] <oq> zero lipo?
[22:10] <oq> adafruit powerbooster?
[22:11] <Ad0> is SPI timing and clocks CPU based or do you send a buffer to an SPI controller?
[22:11] <Smeef> oq: Powerboost 1000C with a 500mah drone LiPo
[22:11] <Emil> I'm thinking you are doing something very wrong with the spi
[22:11] <oq> Smeef: ah cool
[22:11] <Emil> you set it up once and then you can just write and read
[22:11] <Ad0> I do that
[22:11] <oq> that powerbooster must have been the most expensive part by far eh?
[22:12] <Ad0> the problem is that it goes twice as fast when the CPU clock goes from 600 to 1200
[22:12] <Smeef> One sec, I'll upload a shot of the internals
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[22:12] <Emil> Ad0: how new is your install
[22:12] <Emil> ?
[22:12] <oq> Smeef: next add the camera module to it :P
[22:12] <oq> and you'll have yourself a portable camera
[22:12] <Emil> https://www.raspbian.org/RaspbianBugs
[22:13] <Emil> It really shouldn't be affected by the scaling of the system clock
[22:13] <Emil> So it is a bugf
[22:13] <Ad0> Emil: it's pretty new
[22:13] <Ad0> a week?
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[22:13] <Smeef> oq: I wanted to add one of these fans for the ridiculous factor, but I doubt I have enough power for it, lol: http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/sunon-fans/UB5U3-700/259-1531-ND/2242564
[22:14] <Smeef> Here is a shot of the internals: http://i.imgur.com/WZ3wY0T.jpg
[22:14] <Smeef> Still need to cut a hole for the USB port, so I haven't fixed everything in place yet
[22:15] <Smeef> That dongle in the USB port is for a wireless mouse/keyboard combo
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[22:15] <oq> Smeef: pretty cool
[22:16] <Smeef> The bright green LED is on the WiFi adapter
[22:16] <Smeef> oq: thanks
[22:16] <oq> Smeef: what is going on with the gpio lol
[22:16] <Ad0> Emil: https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/issues/974
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[22:16] <Smeef> oq: I used thread to keep the wires in place, lol
[22:16] <Emil> Ad0: :D
[22:16] <Emil> Sucks
[22:17] <oq> Smeef: does the powerboost tell the pi to shutdown when the battery is low?
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[22:18] <Smeef> oq: not yet, but I've got a schematic for that, there's still a lot of work to be done before everything is fixed in place
[22:20] <Smeef> Might put a bigger LiPo in as well if I have the room :9
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[22:20] <oq> Smeef: this one? https://github.com/NeonHorizon/lipopi
[22:21] <Smeef> oq: yep, that's the one, lol
[22:21] <amazoniantoad> Has anyone looked at wireless network bonding?
[22:21] <oq> Smeef: I kinda want one of these, https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/zero-lipo
[22:22] <Smeef> oq: I bought one of those at Micro Center a few days ago, I thought it did charging, but it doesn't, so I just stuck it on one of my spare Pi Zeros
[22:23] <oq> oh damn I didn't realise
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[22:23] <Smeef> The intent was to use it in the tin
[22:23] <oq> yeah... what's the point if you need a separate charger
[22:23] <Smeef> Yeah, exactly
[22:24] <Ad0> Emil: funny that I actually found a real issue then...
[22:24] <Smeef> I saw 1.5A output and forgot everything, lol
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[22:30] <Emil> Ad0: I don't quite understand what they have fuckd up in code for it to not work :/
[22:30] <Emil> Ad0: but
[22:30] <Ad0> it "works" but it goes at different speeds
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[22:30] <Ad0> I took out all my calculation
[22:30] <Emil> That shouldn't matter with spi
[22:30] <Ad0> pure SPI call
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[22:31] <Ad0> it has to be some bizarre combo
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[22:35] <Ad0> Emil: core_freq=250 did it
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[22:36] <Emil> Ad0: glad you got it working
[22:38] <Ad0> ah false alarm
[22:38] <Ad0> fuck
[22:38] <Ad0> it was better but
[22:38] <Ad0> oops sorry for the language LOL
[22:38] <mfa298> Emil: family friendly language please
[22:41] <gordonDrogon> and cakes are baked.
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[22:45] <EDinNY> Where is the "settings" partition mounted?
[22:46] <redrabbit> what do you mean
[22:46] <redrabbit> /boot ?
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[22:47] <EDinNY> There is a SETTINGS partition on the sd card. is it mounted when rp has booted?
[22:48] <ShorTie> there is ??
[22:48] <mfa298> most linux settings are in /etc but that's not a partition
[22:48] <ShorTie> never heard of it
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[22:48] <redrabbit> same
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[22:48] <mfa298> there's a few boot settings in the small boot partitino that's normally mounted at /boot
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[23:00] <EDinNY> Yes! Raspian running with the hard drive (/dev/sda6) mounted on / worked on first try, without searching google for how to do it.
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[23:05] <cnnx> i bought a rpi 3b last week and i dont know what i can do with it
[23:05] <cnnx> is it powerfull enough to be used as a nas ?
[23:05] <cnnx> or too slow
[23:05] <cnnx> for hdds
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[23:06] <mfa298> having most of the IO on a single USB bus makes it not brilliant as a nas
[23:06] <gordonDrogon> /boot/config.txt <- settings?
[23:06] <mfa298> but it'll work, and plenty of other stuff can be done on a Pi3
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