#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2017-03-05

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[0:58] <mattwj2002> hey all :)
[0:58] <oq> hi
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[1:12] <mattwj2002> hey oq
[1:12] <mattwj2002> what are you up to/
[1:12] <mattwj2002> ?
[1:13] <oq> I'm on irc
[1:13] <oq> you?
[1:14] <hmoney> i too am on the ircs
[1:14] <BurtyB> me too!
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[1:15] <ShorTie> me 4
[1:15] <hmoney> many chatters on the ircs
[1:16] <mfa298> nah, im not on the ircs, i'm just a figment of your imaginations (or is that the matrix talking)
[1:16] <hmoney> u wot m8
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[1:30] <janof> what is the best way to set a static ip address on my raspberry pi running rasbian (pihole)
[1:30] <janof> I have assigned the ip via my router
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[1:31] <mattwj2002> hi janof
[1:31] <janof> hi
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[1:31] <mattwj2002> is there an option in raspi-config ?
[1:31] <janof> hum let me look one sec
[1:32] <ShorTie> router the best way
[1:32] <oq> janof: http://elinux.org/RPi_Setting_up_a_static_IP_in_Debian
[1:33] <oq> swap vi for something like nano though
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[1:33] <BurtyB> I guess pihole doesn't use dhcpcd then?
[1:33] <janof> oq yeah i saw that but
[1:33] <janof> i also saw this https://discourse.pi-hole.net/t/how-do-i-set-a-static-ip-address-in-raspbian-jessie-using-etc-dhcpcd-conf/239
[1:33] <janof> which said not to use network/interfaces
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[1:34] <oq> oh weird
[1:34] <janof> pihole is saying to use dhcpcd.conf
[1:34] <janof> not sure if that is accurate though
[1:34] <janof> i was going to look into using systemd
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[1:34] <BurtyB> if pihole say do that and you're running pihole then that's prob the best way to go
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[1:35] <hmoney> tbh doing it in the router is still best
[1:35] <ShorTie> with router as static ip, now matter what sdcard you put in it's at same ip
[1:35] <hmoney> router wont lease that ip to something else
[1:35] <hmoney> shortie: sd card wont matter either way, it's the mac address of the interface of the pi...
[1:36] <ShorTie> i know, that is the point
[1:36] <ShorTie> of using router
[1:36] <hmoney> https://www.tummy.com/articles/networking-basics-how-arp-works/
[1:37] <hmoney> im saying regardless, if you connect your pi to your network your router will give it a dhcp lease
[1:38] <hmoney> and if you were to then swap sd cards and the dhcp lease was still active, your pi's ip wouldnt have changed
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[1:38] <hmoney> tl;dr janof keep it setup via the router :P
[1:39] <BurtyB> hmoney, I think ShorTie was saying exactly that.. where as if you set static on the config file on the SD it wont
[1:39] <BurtyB> (assuming your router supports it)
[1:39] <hmoney> mac binding is supported by potato routers of yesteryear -.-
[1:40] <hmoney> but yeah i just reread his comment and i get what he was saying now :x
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[1:41] <ShorTie> most router support ip by mac
[1:41] <hmoney> speaking of pihole, i've had it running off a zero with a usb to ethernet adapter for months and it's been great
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[1:41] <BurtyB> hmoney, I only replaced my old wifi router recently and it didn't support it ;)
[1:41] <hmoney> prob did tbh
[1:41] <BurtyB> no it didnt
[1:41] <hmoney> just hidden in a silly place of the gui
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[1:48] <mfa298> consumer hardware tends to make useful things very difficult or more often impossible
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[1:48] <mfa298> unfortunately joe bloggs doesn't like stuff where configuring requires a cli and starting with the likes of ;conf t'
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[1:49] <hmoney> i guess im joe bloggs, cuz ubiquiti gear is way too much work compared to your asus, tp-link, etc
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[2:34] <ali1234> okay i just updated raspbian and one immediate difference - the LED works now
[2:35] <ali1234> wifi still works
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[2:42] <Smeef> Why the feck are the cameras WITH IR called NoIR cameras?! That's so confusing. At least call it NoIRF, so people can see there there's no IR *filter*
[2:45] <ali1234> i think if you know why you would want one, you will know what it means
[2:49] <ali1234> also if they claimed it had IR, they'd get people complaining that it is not FLIR
[2:50] <oq> because pi noir sounds better
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[3:07] <Smeef> Holy crap! My Micro Center has the Pi Zero W in stock!
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[3:07] <Smeef> The price goes up the more you buy
[3:07] <exo-squad> i still have a bunch of pi0s from when they sold them for 99 cents
[3:07] <Smeef> 1 for $10, 2-5 for $15 each, 6+ for $20 each
[3:08] <exo-squad> i went to like everyday to buy one
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[3:08] <Smeef> lol, me too, I'm sitting in front of 4 right now
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[3:09] <exo-squad> i spent more on the cases for them then the pi0s themselves :)
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[3:31] <Smeef> Trying to get a generic (un-branded) asian-market 2-in-one Wifi/Bluetooth combo dongle working with my Pi Zero, is there a Raspbian equivalent of Window's Device Manager for Linux that I can use to see all the attached devices and hardware IDs and what not?
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[3:35] <Hack5190> Rasbian is based on Debian - http://www.binarytides.com/linux-commands-hardware-info/
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[3:36] <Hack5190> If you need / want to do something search for Debian - odds are it will be the same on Rasbian
[3:36] <Smeef> thing: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bluetooth-4-0-150Mbps-Mini-Wireless-USB-WI-FI-Adapter-LAN-WIFI-Network-Card-MY-/252428249963
[3:38] <Hack5190> lshw - will list the hardware and it will include your wifi adapter - from there search google to find a guide on what drives you need and the steps to make it work
[3:39] <Hack5190> ^drives^ = drivers
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[3:54] <hmoney> what's an easy way to see if i installed raspbian or raspbian-lite?
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[3:59] <srk> df -h
[4:00] <hmoney> negative
[4:00] <srk> cat /etc/os-release
[4:01] <Zardoz> can you startx?
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[4:01] <hmoney> os-release shows raspbian gnu/linux
[4:01] <hmoney> im wondering if it differentiates between raspbian and raspbian-lite though
[4:02] <hmoney> it's on a headless zero that i setup a while back then put in a drawer
[4:02] <Chillum> I think it is the same OS with just less packages
[4:02] <Chillum> so if you figure out which packages are not included in lite but are in regular
[4:02] <Chillum> you can check if it is installed
[4:02] <Hack5190> http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/39932/differences-between-raspbian-jessie-and-raspbian-jessie-lite
[4:02] <Hack5190> Differences between Raspbian Jessie and Raspbian Jessie Lite
[4:03] <Zardoz> if it does not startx it's lite
[4:03] <hmoney> command not found
[4:03] <hmoney> so lite?
[4:03] <Chillum> yes
[4:03] <hmoney> kk
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[4:04] <hmoney> anyone familiar with ghost on raspi?
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[4:05] <hmoney> i had a website setup for my grandpa a while back on wordpress, was gonna set it up again but im tempted to try out ghost instead of wp
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[4:17] <hmoney> smeef: you find what you were looking for?
[4:18] <Smeef> hmoney: With the dongle drivers? No, not exactly, there were a few solutions referencing some drivers on github, but they don't seem to work
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[4:19] <hmoney> im not 100% on bluetooth, i THINK most people set it up with bluez
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[4:19] <hmoney> is the wifi part of the dongle not recognized either?
[4:24] <Smeef> Bluetooth works fine, it's the Wi-Fi that isn't working
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[4:25] <Smeef> As far as I can tell, it uses an RTL8723B chip
[4:25] <Smeef> They both work out of the box with Windows
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[4:49] <hmoney> so you edited the wpa_supplicant.conf and rebooted and no dice?
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[4:52] <Smeef> err... I did not... even know that was a thing...
[4:53] <Smeef> I'll check that out, thanks for the tip
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[8:17] <Emil> I'm compiling ffmpeg for rasperrypi 3. Should I select --arch=armel or some other?
[8:17] <Emil> Since pi is armv8
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[8:29] <ShorTie> foundation compiles everything --with-arch=armv6
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[8:41] <Emil> ShorTie: hmm, but I dont care about rpi1
[8:41] <Emil> only #3 counts
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[8:51] <mfa298> Emil: all the Pi's use armhf (even the Pi1/Pi0 if you're on rasbian)
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[11:57] <fedcab> Hello. I have a problem authenticating (using gksu) on a raspberry pi I have logged in via ssh -X. The password dialog claims the password is wrong. Can someone point me to any possible reason (apart from: "The password you enter may be wrong.")?
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[12:11] <mfa298> have you set a password for the root user - Usually the root account is locked (i.e. no password) and you use sudo instead of su
[12:11] <freechips> hi guys, i've had issues with my rpi3B and my vga monitor. the accepted min/max resolution for my dcl9a+ is (according to xrandr) 592 x 448 but my monitor is actually 1280 x 1024 is this a known xorg issue?
[12:11] <freechips> also im running archlinux-arm
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[12:24] <fedcab> mfa298: Were you talking to me? If so: gksu uses sudo. So naturally, I entered the password of the used account - not a root password.
[12:28] <mfa298> fedcab: I was, however I thought gksu is a front end of su rather than sudo
[12:29] <mfa298> from the package descritpion: This package provides GTK+ front-ends for su (gksu) and sudo (gksudo)
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[12:31] <fedcab> Maybe that's the point. Thanks.
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[12:34] <Lartza> fedcab, gksu shouldn't use sudo because gksudo exists but maybe it does :P
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[12:35] <fedcab> I noticed that gksudo is a link to gksu but: gksu finds out which command was used to start it and then it behaves differently (su vs. sudo).
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[12:37] <Lartza> That makes sense too
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[12:43] <mfa298> there's quite a few tools that behave differently based on name. In terms of what gksu/gksudo most of it will be very similar apart from which binary they then call
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[12:53] <fedcab> Thanks and bye.
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[13:19] <Tazmain> Hi all, is there a recommended SDCArd brand to use, I had a Samsung one but I can't write to it anymore
[13:21] <phil42> how long did it last?
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[13:24] <Tazmain> 6 months I think
[13:24] <Tazmain> ADATA one looks alright its a U3
[13:25] <phil42> were you writing to it alot?
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[13:49] <nickwebcouk> quick question for the hardware types for the pi zero w: to disable bluetooth and use hardware UART, is the dt pi3-disable-bt usable? or is this specifically only for the pi3?
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[14:40] <Tazmain> phorce1_home, no
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[14:45] <oq> Tazmain: samsung make pretty good sd cards in general, if it was me I would just buy another samsung or maybe a sandisk
[14:46] <Lartza> Tazmain, Rpi does not support UHS
[14:47] <Lartza> So it's fairly irrelevant
[14:47] <Lartza> Samsung and sandisk are the leading brands probably yeah
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[14:56] <swensson> Should I use 5v 2.4A or 5v 1A to power my RPI 3?
[14:56] <Lartza> 2.4A
[14:56] <ShorTie> 5.25v 3 A
[14:56] <swensson> Okey, 2.4A it is ;P
[14:57] <Lartza> Yeah 3A is the recommended
[14:57] <Lartza> 1A is not adequate at all for the 3
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[15:03] <swensson> Is the RPI 3 able to host a ad-hoc wifi network with the builtin wifi? :O
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[15:05] <Lartza> It's hit and miss iirc
[15:06] <Lartza> I think there are people who claim the chip supports host mode and people that say it doesn't
[15:06] <Lartza> Or the driver rather
[15:06] <Lartza> And I can't remember which it is
[15:06] <swensson> haha ;P
[15:07] <Lartza> You can find a verifiably host modeable USB adapter though if you can't get the builtin working with tears and Google :P
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[15:09] <oq> I'm running a pi0w as host network right now
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[15:28] <swensson> It was possible =D
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[16:31] <chris64> hi
[16:33] <chris64> I'm reading right now about the use of thermal printers and raspberry pi zero w. On http://bildr.org/2011/08/thermal-printer-arduino/ they mention that it's possible to power the printer via an Arduino VIN pin thus without any additional power supply. Do you know if the Raspberry Pi Zero W has a similiar connector that allows to draw power directly from the supply?
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[16:34] <chris64> The printer draws up to 1.47A while printing so they say that USB will not be enaugh altough there are USB power supplies delivering 2.4A. Do you know about limitations like this on the Raspberry Pi Zero?
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[16:35] <chris64> here: http://tronixstuff.com/2011/07/08/tutorial-arduino-and-a-thermal-printer/ :| so I'm a bit unsure now what might be possible
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[16:40] <leftyfb> chris64: The pi zero will not power a 1.47A thermal printer
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[16:41] <chris64> leftyfb: but a arduino would because it has this passthrough pin (asking just for clarification :-)
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[16:41] <chris64> leftyfb: do you know of power supplies that have both an USB output and a 2.1mm DC power thing like shown here: https://learn.adafruit.com/mini-thermal-receipt-printer/first-test ?
[16:42] <chris64> *power jack
[16:42] <leftyfb> chris64: I don't.
[16:42] <chris64> thank you
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[16:43] <chris64> oha, there are USB to 2.1mm cables https://www.adafruit.com/product/2697
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[17:20] <chris64> does anyone occasionally know whether there are push buttons that fit to hole of the Zero W camera case?
[17:21] <Chillum> probably, what is the size of the hole?
[17:21] <chris64> well, good question. I'll look whether I can find it's specification. for the zero w I couldn't find one unfortunately
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[17:22] <Chillum> well it should be the same camera as the other pis so should be the same sized hole right?
[17:23] <chris64> it seems so, yes
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[17:23] <Chillum> http://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Raspberry-Pi-Camera-Module-Diagram.png
[17:23] <Chillum> 8mm square hole
[17:24] <chris64> nice :-)
[17:24] <Chillum> http://www.ebay.ca/itm/192052202953 8mm square buttons
[17:24] <Chillum> my google foo is strong
[17:24] <chris64> heh :-D
[17:25] <Chillum> they could glue in, or you could make a PCB mount for them to match the camera better
[17:25] <Chillum> good idea using the camera hole for a button
[17:25] <chris64> a pitty here there are only 3, 6 and 12mm https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/tactile-switches
[17:25] <Chillum> those are the latching type, but I am sure you could find momentary if you needed them
[17:26] <chris64> Chillum: thank you
[17:26] <Chillum> no problem, you gave me a good idea
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[17:26] <chris64> actually it would be my first project like this so I'm glad for everything that is only wiring :-D
[17:30] <chris64> such a button could be wired to any gpio pin?
[17:30] <chris64> here they're wiring it to 17 for some reason: https://www.raspberrypi.org/learning/push-button-stop-motion/worksheet/
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[17:33] <Chillum> as long as you use the internal pull-up for the pin you should be good to go
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[19:41] <Smeef> Just got 2 Pi Zero Ws!
[19:42] <Smeef> Can't wait to get home and start working on them
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[19:44] <GyroW> Really weird, when I plug my pi into my seperate dd wrt router it gets an ip by dhcp which I can see on the status page. Yet nmap doesn't show the pi, neither does pinging to the ip work. My phone connects to its wi-fi just fine and can ping my laptop, both can't access the pi though
[19:45] <oq> GyroW: is it on the same subnet?
[19:45] <GyroW> yup
[19:45] <GyroW> they all get dhcp
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[19:45] <oq> that doesn't mean they're on the same subnet
[19:46] <GyroW> Well the status says so
[19:46] <clever> and some routers try to protect you from war-driving by refusing to allow wifi and wired devices to talk
[19:46] <clever> even if they appear to be on the same subnet
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[19:46] <GyroW> i've tested lan and wifi
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[19:48] <GyroW> that being lan to lan and wifi to lan
[19:49] <GyroW> and in both cases the raspberry pi doesn't want to be connected to yet ssh to my laptop from my phone goes just fine
[19:52] <GyroW> If I can remove the router from inbetween that would be even better but I get the same error: no route to host
[19:53] <clever> "no route to host" means the given ip didnt respond to an ARP query
[19:53] <clever> so it either doesnt have the ip you think it does, your routing table isnt configured right, or the packets are being dropped somehow
[19:54] <GyroW> What should the routing table be configured as
[19:55] <clever> depends on how the network is setup and what exactly your doing
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[19:58] <GyroW> I just want to be able to put my pi into a remote place and I need to hook things up as configured in my shell script and using my laptop seems like the most logical thing
[19:58] <GyroW> python script*
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[19:58] <clever> are you able to temporarily connect a monitor and keyboard up to get at the shell?
[19:58] <GyroW> no
[19:59] <clever> why not?
[19:59] <GyroW> I don't have any
[19:59] <clever> ah
[19:59] <GyroW> just the living room tv wich is too heavy...
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[20:00] <clever> how is the rpi connecting when it doesnt work right?
[20:00] <ShorTie> ssh is your friend then
[20:00] <GyroW> If I hook my pi up to my normal network all goes well
[20:00] <clever> how are you hooking it up when it works?
[20:00] <clever> and when it doesnt work?
[20:00] <GyroW> Just pi to switch and laptop to switch
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[20:01] <clever> is there any dhcp server also on that switch?
[20:01] <GyroW> and when it doesn't work it's either straight or in the switched ports of my other router
[20:01] <GyroW> yes
[20:01] <clever> "other" router?, how many routers do you have?
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[20:01] <GyroW> the other router isn't hooked up to anything
[20:01] <GyroW> just pi and laptop
[20:02] <GyroW> I normally works fine but idk why it doesn't now
[20:02] <GyroW> Didn't change any configs
[20:03] <clever> are you able to wire the pi up in the "broken" way, while its also in the livingroom, wired to that tv?
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[20:03] <GyroW> yes, but not at the moment
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[20:09] <GyroW> I don't need internet or anything on the pi I just wat to be able to ssh into it and run the script
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[20:28] <GyroW> I really don't know what I'm doing wrong
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[20:46] <wonderer> hi all
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[20:46] <Chillum> hi
[20:46] <wonderer> ive tried a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade -y
[20:47] <wonderer> and now my pi is stuck?
[20:47] <H__> GyroW: this "the other router isn't hooked up to anything" means there's no DHCP server
[20:47] <wonderer> see http://pastebin.com/RfQvFSVB
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[20:47] <GyroW> That router is the dhcp server
[20:47] <wonderer> i have a collonh prompt?
[20:48] <Chillum> not sure about that, have you tried hitting enter?
[20:48] <wonderer> ah:)
[20:48] <wonderer> its going through a few new lines now
[20:49] <Chillum> I think it just want to make sure you saw the message
[20:49] <wonderer> its like a readme
[20:49] <wonderer> had to hit enter line 10times to reach end of file and then hit Q for quit as prompted
[20:49] <wonderer> update is now going through
[20:49] <wonderer> thx Chillum
[20:49] <Chillum> np
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[20:50] <wonderer> wasnt obvious, but am embarassed =)
[20:50] <Chillum> lazy package managers
[20:51] <GyroW> H__, I want it to be set up as follow pi -- laptop
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[20:51] <wonderer> hmmm now get ...missing final newline.. error?
[20:51] <wonderer> http://pastebin.com/50J4P0pa
[20:52] <GyroW> I thought if I used the router I wouldn't need to mess with the ip configs
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[20:52] <H__> maybe you can ask what IP the routers' DHCP server gave to the MAC address of the pi ?
[20:52] <Chillum> oh dear, that does not look right wonderer
[20:53] <GyroW> I connected to that pi
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[20:53] <GyroW> ip*
[20:53] <GyroW> and I get no route to host
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[20:54] <wonderer> raspberrypi is screwed huh?
[20:55] <GyroW> It's weird
[20:55] <wonderer> ok gtg
[20:55] <wonderer> gnite all and thx Chillum for advise
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[22:13] <boegel> I've made a couple of attempts to connect mouse/keyboard to the Bluetooth on my Raspberry Pi Zero W, but without much luck (using a very recent Raspbian version); any known issues with it?
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[22:22] <Lartza> boegel, Are your mouse and keyboard bluetooth? :P
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[22:23] <boegel> Lartza: they are :)
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[22:24] <boegel> I always get a DBus error message, I should take a note of it
[22:24] <Lartza> Just making sure, my logitech unifying thingy isn't nor do I have a BT RPi :D
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[22:39] <mattwj2002> hey all :)
[22:40] <hmoney> hay gurl hayyyy
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[22:42] <mattwj2002> hey hmoney
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[23:11] <blackwind_123> hi all, i forgot the password for myrasp pi..? is there a way to retrive it..? or connet to it some how..? im using ssh to connect to my rasp ...
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[23:17] <hmoney> let's reword that blackwind: 'can i break the security of ssh in linux'
[23:17] <hmoney> brute force the password or start from scratch
[23:19] <HrdwrBoB> hmoney: no that's wrong also
[23:20] <HrdwrBoB> the answer is - not via ssh.
[23:20] <HrdwrBoB> http://www.mapledyne.com/ideas/2015/8/4/reset-lost-admin-password-for-raspberry-pi
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[23:20] <hmoney> well that's a bit silly how simple it is
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[23:21] <hmoney> i realize being pwned at the hardware level is always an option, but that's just silly simple
[23:21] <HrdwrBoB> ...
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[23:22] <HrdwrBoB> the file system is not encrypted
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[23:22] <HrdwrBoB> if you have hardware access, game over. always. ever.
[23:22] <Crom> finally running amd64 rtai kernel on the laptop. Now to find a ethernet smooth stepper board
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[23:26] <ali1234> does raspbian desktop use pulseaudio or dmix?
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[23:50] <Putdeksel> Hi, I'm planning to run Home Assistant (or something like that) on a Pi and connect a bunch of RF or Wifi sensor nodes. Should I build a separate gateway for my sensor nodes? Or can I make the nodes connect to the Pi directly?
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[23:57] <maicod> has anyone ever used a video editor on a Pi Model 3B ?
[23:58] <HrdwrBoB> that sounds like a terrible idea prima facie
[23:59] <maicod> even with a USB hdd connected ?
[23:59] <ali1234> i must agree
[23:59] <GenteelBen> Nice use of Latin, maicod.
[23:59] <GenteelBen> Er
[23:59] <ali1234> the CPU is too slow
[23:59] <GenteelBen> HrdwrBoB
[23:59] <ali1234> and video is too large
[23:59] <maicod> oh I thought Pi3 was quite fast
[23:59] <GenteelBen> ali1234: does the RPi's SOC not have ICs for things like AVC and HEVC transcoding?
[23:59] <ali1234> GenteelBen: yes, but you can't use them when editing

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