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IRC Log for 2017-03-08

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[0:00] <ali1234> plugwash: do you know how spindle works?
[0:00] <ali1234> i'm searching for something that will let me produce a bootable raspbian filesystem on ubuntu-x86
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[0:01] <ali1234> preferably without needing root access
[0:01] <ali1234> it looks like it uses qemu-system?
[0:02] <plugwash> yeah iirc it does
[0:02] <ali1234> that would be one way around the problem i guess
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[0:03] <ali1234> also it runs sudo debootstrap
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[0:04] <ali1234> and it connects to qemu on ssh to run stuff
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[0:05] <ali1234> qemu + fakeroot + fakechroot is *supposed* to work
[0:05] <ali1234> but it just doesn't
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[0:07] <ali1234> running it as root seems to have worked
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[0:43] <ali1234> hmm i think i might have cracked it
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[0:54] <brent77777> anyone here?
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[0:55] <brent77777> i am trying to get 3d iso files to play on my rasperry pi 3 with kodi
[0:55] <brent77777> anyone have this working?
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[1:24] <ali1234> debootstrap second stage transforms your chroot into jessie
[1:24] <ali1234> i mean debian
[1:24] <ali1234> ugh
[1:25] <ali1234> this is nonsense
[1:26] <hmoney> jaredce: sup
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[1:26] <hmoney> lol timing
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[2:01] <wiselydoesit> anyone in the UK received their Zero W yet?
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[2:02] <wiselydoesit> i got a dispatch notification from thepihut on the 2nd of March, damn thing still hasn't arrived.
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[2:09] <theorem_> hey all
[2:10] <wiselydoesit> evening theorem_
[2:10] <theorem_> this is probably a common question, but the latest image seems to not permit connectivity to ssh even after I've exlicitly enabled it , and the sshd is lisening on port 22
[2:10] <theorem_> is there a firewall I need to change too ?
[2:11] <wiselydoesit> your using pi@raspberry.local?
[2:11] <theorem_> I changed the default pass
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[2:11] <theorem_> same 'pi' username
[2:11] <theorem_> I am on the local LAN.
[2:11] <wiselydoesit> it should work out of the box to be honest once you enabled it or added a file called ssh to the settings partition
[2:12] <wiselydoesit> hmm key mismatch?
[2:12] <brent77777> anyone have experience with 3d iso movies on pi3?
[2:12] <theorem_> no, the port isn't open --- the OS shows it as open, but I can't connect from 2 different machines to port 22. used SSH and telnet separately.
[2:12] <deww> theorem_: i've just tried the image as of sunday. worked after enabling it. is your router somehow blocking it?
[2:13] <theorem_> I can ping the device
[2:13] <theorem_> I guess latest is a stretch -- maybe 2 weeks ago ?
[2:13] <theorem_> I can get a version if you like
[2:13] <deww> you're welcome to try the latest
[2:14] <wiselydoesit> "sudo ufw allow 22" should rule out firewall issues although am sure its not running as default.
[2:14] <theorem_> it's somewhat of a pain to reflash since it's in a case to protect it from bumps.
[2:14] <theorem_> wiselydoesit: trying ..
[2:14] <theorem_> no ufw command
[2:15] <wiselydoesit> i opted for the Official Case with the SD slot on the bottom, makes life abit easier.
[2:15] <wiselydoesit> yeah i thought as much there is no firewall in the standard image.
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[2:15] <deww> theorem_: sudo iptables -F (flushes ALL firewall rules) but there shouldn't be any
[2:15] <theorem_> let me list them first ...
[2:15] <wiselydoesit> i'm stealing that command deww lol am sure that'll come in handy one day
[2:16] <deww> theorem_: can you ssh localhost or ssh ip from the pi itself?
[2:16] <theorem_> deww: will try localhost now ..
[2:16] <theorem_> works over localhost
[2:16] <theorem_> will try over the network iface..
[2:16] <deww> mmmhmm. maybe it's your router doing funny things
[2:16] <wiselydoesit> does your router have client isolation or anything?
[2:17] <theorem_> wiselydoesit: nothing special on the router -- afaik
[2:17] <theorem_> I can certainly ping it
[2:17] <theorem_> probably portscan it
[2:18] <wiselydoesit> what are you using to connect Putty or a linux box?
[2:18] <theorem_> hmm, weird, port 22 shows as open with a nmap scan
[2:18] <theorem_> oh ! it works now ..
[2:18] <theorem_> wth. ..
[2:18] <deww> magic
[2:18] <wiselydoesit> lol
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[2:19] <theorem_> hmm, spoke too soon ... not taking a pwd ..
[2:19] <deww> brent77777: nope! isn't it just normal video files split in two two streams and your tv needs to blend them in a certain way and you use your glasses to see the 3d?
[2:20] <theorem_> ok, it hangs at taking a password when on the lan
[2:20] <deww> ssh -v or more -v for more debug info
[2:20] <theorem_> enter passwd -- then nothing .. prompt sits there
[2:20] <theorem_> ok
[2:20] <wiselydoesit> maybe generating locales?
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[2:21] <theorem_> lsat 2 lines from ssh
[2:21] <theorem_> debug1: pledge: network
[2:21] <theorem_> debug1: Sending environment.
[2:21] <brent77777> deww . i read that the pi supports 3d iso
[2:21] <deww> brent77777: probably with kodi and the like
[2:22] <brent77777> yes with kodi
[2:22] <brent77777> but it is not working on my unit
[2:22] <wiselydoesit> Which Kodi variant do you use brent77777
[2:22] <deww> theorem_: maybe watch the logs on the pi for ssh. i forget the exact file name like /var/log/auth or similar
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[2:23] <brent77777> LibreELEC-RPi2.arm-8.0-Milhouse-20160930210328-#0930-ge1a8d5a.tar
[2:23] <theorem_> I am tailing /var/log/auth/log now
[2:23] <theorem_> *auth.log
[2:23] <brent77777> version 17 of kodi
[2:23] <wiselydoesit> yeah i'm on the milhouse nightlies myself.
[2:24] <deww> brent77777: http://www.multipelife.com/use-kodi-to-watch-3d-blu-ray-movies-with-raspberry-pi-3.html maybe of use. i never tried it before and don't care to (i can't see 3d very well)
[2:24] <wiselydoesit> LE9.0 Kodi 18
[2:24] <theorem_> deww: I am showing that I pass the uathentication
[2:24] <theorem_> *auth
[2:25] <brent77777> i haven't gone to kodi 18 since it is beta
[2:25] <wiselydoesit> your may want to update that build though its old as hell. even the LE8 Official Stable is newer.
[2:25] <deww> theorem_: yeah i'm not sure why it hangs.
[2:25] <wiselydoesit> the build your on is alpha code brent77777
[2:25] <wiselydoesit> like really unstable lol
[2:25] <theorem_> "session open for user pi by (uid=0)"
[2:25] <brent77777> hmmm....not sure why
[2:26] <wiselydoesit> if you can add custom update channels in LibreELEC settings, add http://milhouse.libreelec.tv/builds/master/RPi2/ as a channel
[2:26] <wiselydoesit> and then you can update easily to any of the newer builds
[2:26] <brent77777> wiselydoesit....isn't that the latest milhouse kodi 17 build
[2:27] <wiselydoesit> yeah but its still a lot of commits behind LE8 Stable.
[2:27] <brent77777> i just copy the *.tar files to the update folder on my pi
[2:27] <wiselydoesit> which is still Kodi 17
[2:27] <brent77777> then reboot and it updates
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[2:28] <deww> theorem_: i am booting a pi up to check.
[2:28] <theorem_> ok
[2:28] <theorem_> very weird
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[2:29] <wiselydoesit> if you want to stay on Kodi 17 i would probably install the Stable LibreELEC 8.0 build brent77777
[2:29] <deww> theorem_: no access denied or anything?
[2:29] <wiselydoesit> i think there is actually 8.0.1 now.
[2:29] <theorem_> nothing , just hang forever at "debug1: Sending environment."
[2:29] <wiselydoesit> i have no issues running the Kodi 18 nightlies though, and i'm loving the retroplayer stuff most roms work now.
[2:29] <theorem_> I guess I could try reooting again ?
[2:29] <brent77777> where do i find that wiselydoesit?
[2:30] <wiselydoesit> http://releases.libreelec.tv/LibreELEC-RPi2.arm-8.0.0.img.gz
[2:30] <deww> theorem_: this a relatively standard image? no customizations?
[2:31] <wiselydoesit> thats dated 02/22/17 brent77777
[2:31] <brent77777> that is what i started with wiselydoesit...and then added the milhouse file
[2:31] <brent77777> maybe i did something wrong
[2:31] <theorem_> deww: I just had to change the password from default. someone else was using it for a little while today, but I xpect it's stock.
[2:32] <deww> theorem_: http://serverfault.com/questions/597440/ssh-hangs-after-authentication possible ideas. not sure. i just booted a pi up and logged in. saw most of what you saw but then more
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[2:32] <theorem_> debug2: channel 0: open confirm rwindow 0 rmax 32768
[2:32] <theorem_> I did a ssh -vvvv
[2:33] <brent77777> wiselydoesit....do i have to wipe out my current kodi configuration if i try and change to the image you sent
[2:33] <wiselydoesit> not easy to say but i've ended up with silly faults by jumping back and forth between builds, i'm on #309 at the moment which is based on Kodi 18 but is working nicely. they aren't really nightlies from milhouse more just his personal branch. Alot more stable than for example CyanogenMOD nightlies on Android.
[2:33] <theorem_> deww: http://pastebin.com/zDLvYteH
[2:34] <wiselydoesit> enable custom channels in the LibreELEC addon brent77777, enter the milhouse link and just try the latest build, you'll be suprised.
[2:35] <wiselydoesit> it will automatically notify you of new builds and such aswell then, lets manual upkeep.
[2:35] <wiselydoesit> *less
[2:35] <wiselydoesit> or just drop the .tar file in updates.
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[2:37] <theorem_> ok I get an immediate "session closed for user root" in auth.log when I try to login.
[2:37] <brent77777> i will try that wiselydoesit
[2:37] <GenteelBen> brent77777: was brent77776 taken?
[2:37] <wiselydoesit> lol
[2:38] <theorem_> this looks like its tied to a sudo command run to check the shadow file ?
[2:39] <deww> theorem_: i say reflash it if you don't know what the previous user did
[2:39] <theorem_> hmm
[2:41] <theorem_> reverse DNS lookup maybe ?
[2:45] <wiselydoesit> if you have a spare SD card, flash it with another copy of Raspbian or whatever your using and then rule out network issues.
[2:45] <theorem_> hmm
[2:45] <theorem_> ys, that's going to take me a while
[2:45] <theorem_> will have to do it tomorrow
[2:45] <theorem_> I just am checking /etc/sshd_config
[2:45] <wiselydoesit> do you have NOOBS installed?
[2:45] <theorem_> looks like "PermitRootLogin without-password" was set
[2:45] <theorem_> is that default ?
[2:45] <wiselydoesit> or just straight Raspbian
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[2:49] <deww> theorem_: yeah it is
[2:50] <theorem_> ok
[2:50] <theorem_> do you know the default root pwd ? maybe a different user will work.
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[2:53] <ShorTie> "PermitRootLogin without-password" is the debian default
[2:53] <ShorTie> can be set to yes or just rem out
[2:53] <theorem_> ok
[2:53] <theorem_> seems like a weird default
[2:53] <cromulent> I agree
[2:54] <ShorTie> it's so root can not log in
[2:54] <theorem_> the config option wording sounds like the reverse
[2:54] <ShorTie> but ya, wierd woeding
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[3:00] <theorem_> ah, well
[3:00] <theorem_> VNC works
[3:00] <theorem_> ssh does not
[3:00] <theorem_> that's .. weird.
[3:01] <wiselydoesit> that really is weird
[3:01] <n4no`> every time I go to town, somebody kicks my dog around.
[3:01] <wiselydoesit> n4no`: is that a lyric or for real
[3:01] <theorem_> ok, another question then
[3:01] <wiselydoesit> i'd be facing charges if somebody kicked my dog.
[3:02] <theorem_> how do I turn off the screen say .. with VNC ? (now) It's the simple official pi 7" screen
[3:03] <theorem_> well I guess just a screensaver is ok
[3:03] <ShorTie> theorem_, there is no password for root, you gotta set it
[3:03] <ShorTie> sudo su, passwd
[3:04] <wiselydoesit> i've never managed to get my hands on the pi screen yet, been meaning to find a way to wire up my old laptop screen at some point.
[3:04] <theorem_> the screen is quite nice
[3:04] <ShorTie> just get a hdmi convertor
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[3:05] <wiselydoesit> its literally just the LCD panel ShorTie with the motherboard connector and power hanging out, my old machine had heatsink issues so i killed it with fire after removing the screen, ram, hdd etc
[3:06] <ShorTie> ya, i know
[3:06] <wiselydoesit> theres a small board apparently that does the job.
[3:07] <ShorTie> like this thingy http://www.ebay.com/itm/PCB800099-LCD-Controller-Board-HDMI-VGA-AV-For-Drive-LVDS-TTL-Display-Screen-/181437086437?hash=item2a3e7e3ae5:g:qIAAAOSwqfNXkZOo
[3:08] <wiselydoesit> thats the jobby
[3:08] <wiselydoesit> http://www.ebay.com/itm/16-OPTS-VGA-HDMI-DVI-AVUSB-driver-board-KIT-for-Reusing-old-laptop-lcd-screens-/222336939669?var=&hash=item33c4507695:m:maCaFAjn6mJaRFFkF25iblg is what i pointed at
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[3:09] <wiselydoesit> thats a far better mode tidy looking board ShorTie i'm gonna order that now and stop being a bitch lol
[3:09] <wiselydoesit> looks simple enough
[3:09] <theorem_> leter folks
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[3:10] <ShorTie> you gotta tell them your screen so they can get you the right 1
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[3:14] <wiselydoesit> man im seriously hopeing my Zero W arrives in the morning i have so many plans for this thing.
[3:15] <wiselydoesit> other than the obvious DIY Bash Bunny/ Ducky projects lol
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[3:29] <pennTeller> Hi guys, has anybody been able to get an iphone to connect to a raspberry pi 3 via bluetooth?
[3:31] <wiselydoesit> does an iphone connect to ANYTHING over bluetooth other than apple products ? lol
[3:32] <wiselydoesit> i know my missus just uses AirPlay to play music to our Pi's
[3:32] <wiselydoesit> i don't have anything to do with that apple nonsense.
[3:33] <pennTeller> yes it definitely connects to my car stereo via bluetooh as well as some cheap BT speakers I purchased.
[3:33] <pennTeller> But im trying to connect to the pi 3 using my iphone, however the pi wont even show on the iphone blueooth devices
[3:33] <pennTeller> it will show in an android phoen though
[3:33] <wiselydoesit> which distro you on pennTeller
[3:34] <wiselydoesit> nice handle btw lol
[3:34] <wiselydoesit> i know in LibreELEC it works in that manner.
[3:34] <wiselydoesit> the bluetooth in Raspbian is abit hit and miss my Blackberry DTEK won't connect either. Galaxy Prime works fine.
[3:34] <pennTeller> wiselydoesit, lol thanks. I am using ubuntu 16.04 on my pc and the latest raspbian with pixel on the pi 3
[3:35] <pennTeller> wiselydoesit, yeah I've noticed it is a bit flaky
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[3:38] <wiselydoesit> if your looking to justy send music to the T,V, look at adding LibreELEC to your SD pennTeller
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[3:45] <pennTeller> wiselydoesit, im actually to send motorcycle velocity info from the pi3 to the iphone live, basically a velocimeter
[3:45] <pennTeller> or speedometer I should say
[3:45] <pennTeller> thanks for the tip though
[3:45] <wiselydoesit> ahhh ok
[3:46] <wiselydoesit> that sounds like a cool project
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[4:08] <Precarken> Hello, I have tried just about every tutorial on turning on/off and LED. I bought the Raspberry Pi 3 B Project Kit. None of them have worked. How can I troubleshoot?
[4:09] <Precarken> an LED*
[4:09] <Precarken> Most recent attempt was https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Au3Gx7lm4xk
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[4:10] <Precarken> I run gpis readall and can see the mode changing and the value between 1 and 0... but the LED does not turn on.
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[4:10] <Precarken> gpio readall*
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[5:24] <amigojapan_bnc> I just ordered an rpi III with the official rpi 7 inch display. Will I need some kind of drivers to run the display?
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[5:26] <deww> amigojapan_bnc: once assemble it and plug it in, it should work
[5:26] <amigojapan_bnc> Ty deww
[5:26] <deww> may need to roate it or something tho
[5:26] <deww> http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/setup-raspberry-pi-touchscreen/
[5:27] <deww> i have one just that i don't remember much of what i did with it
[5:27] <amigojapan_bnc> Ty deww
[5:28] <deww> have fun with it :)
[5:29] <amigojapan_bnc> Yep :)
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[5:31] <leftyfb> deww: hi there :)
[5:32] <amigojapan_bnc> deww: I am hoping to get a SIM card data card and use it instead of a smartphone. I don't really call people on my current phone anyway
[5:34] <hmoney> lol
[5:34] <hmoney> i think you will be thoroughly underwhelmed amigo
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[5:34] <hmoney> fun project to build though
[5:34] <amigojapan_bnc> Ok hmoney :(
[5:35] <hmoney> dont listen to me, try it and see if you like it
[5:35] <amigojapan_bnc> Alright
[5:35] <hmoney> tons of good stuff to make with the official touchscreen and a pi3 regardless
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[5:35] <leftyfb> mine is driving my 3d printer
[5:35] <hmoney> i want to setup a homeassistant build with a pi3 and use the official touchscreen as a wall display
[5:36] <amigojapan_bnc> Some people have told me that the GUI lags even on the Pi III. I have only had a first gen Pi up to now. And on that the GUI lagged
[5:37] <hmoney> not sure, do the youtube videos people make show a lagging gui?
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[5:39] <amigojapan_bnc> hmoney: I have only been able to find YouTube videos which show benchmarks of the different versions of the pi. But I have not seen a video that shows the GUI in action on the Pi III. Can't watch it now tho. Am on a low bandwith connection
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[5:39] <hmoney> :(
[5:39] <hmoney> low and bandwidth next to each other is a sad thing in 2017
[5:40] <CompanionCube> Doesn't it depend on what gui you want to run
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[5:40] <amigojapan_bnc> Benchmark wise the rpi III outperforms it's predesessors
[5:41] <exo-squad> whens the rpi4 coming out :D
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[5:41] <amigojapan_bnc> CompanionCube: I am assuming X and lxde
[5:41] <hmoney> i bet the pi3 will get ethernet before the pi4 comes out :x
[5:41] <hmoney> aka a long time
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[5:42] <amigojapan_bnc> CompanionCube: What is the fastests GUI?
[5:42] <CompanionCube> idk
[5:42] <amigojapan_bnc> Ok
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[5:48] <deww> leftyfb: hello!
[5:48] <leftyfb> deww: not sure i've noticed you here before
[5:49] <deww> oh this is the most active i've been the last year i idled here
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[8:26] <drawde_> hello all, quick question.. i have docker running in a centos vm in hyper-v.. i started a docker using --net=host and from the docker host i can access the web page (using curl) but from not network i can't access it
[8:26] <drawde_> any ideas? dnsmasq issue?
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[8:28] <drawde_> my centos vm has access to the www and to my network
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[8:50] <exo-squad> whats a good graphical hex editor for raspbian
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[9:49] <Ad0> programmer type linuxspi not found
[9:49] <Ad0> on avrdude
[9:49] <Ad0> is that not included with the standard avrdude on raspbian ??
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[9:51] <Ad0> doesn't seem like it ...
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[9:55] <password4> the microsd card wear leveling the rpi performs , does it still only perfomr that on shutdown?
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[10:01] <password4> does raspbian even still perform wear elveling?
[10:01] <password4> leveling
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[10:02] <password4> google is not giving me useful results
[10:02] <ali1234> plugwash: i ran into another problem with debootstrap
[10:02] <eballetbo> Ad0: I guess avrdude has no support for linuxspi (at least with mainline version)
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[10:03] <ali1234> plugwash: --foreign/--second-stage relies on the suite script to set the default mirror
[10:03] <ali1234> because you just reuse the debian scripts, you end up with debian mirrors in /etc/apt/sources.list
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[10:03] <ali1234> and things go downhill from there, obviously
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[10:08] <ali1234> you can see the workaround for this problem in spindle: https://github.com/RPi-Distro/spindle/blob/master/wheezy-stage2#L147
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[10:09] <ali1234> Ad0: avrdude supports spidev in raspbian
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[10:12] <eballetbo> ali1234: oh, so there is a avrdude patched that supports spidev ... that looks interesting
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[10:22] <Ad0> ali1234: not this one
[10:22] <Ad0> I have 6.1 installed
[10:22] <Ad0> linuxspi is not listed as a programmer
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[10:23] <ali1234> me too. it works fine
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[10:24] <Ad0> is it called something else than "linuxspi"?
[10:24] <ali1234> no
[10:25] <Ad0> http://pastebin.com/j5EpMTxW
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[10:26] <Ad0> avrdude version 6.1, URL: <http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/avrdude/>
[10:26] <Ad0> that's odd
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[10:26] <Ad0> Description: Raspbian GNU/Linux 8.0 (jessie)
[10:27] <Ad0> how can that be, if we both use the normal package version?
[10:27] <ali1234> no idea
[10:28] <eballetbo> the source package doesn't seem to have any patch related to linuxspi (http://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian/pool/main/a/avrdude/)
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[10:28] <Ad0> I'll survive with bitbanging
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[10:32] <ali1234> oh i know the problem
[10:32] <ali1234> Ad0: look at this: paste.debian.net/918704/
[10:33] <ali1234> rpi foundation are shipping a customized version
[10:33] <ali1234> you need to enable their repo and install it
[10:33] <Ad0> wonderful.
[10:33] <Ad0> adafruid had bitbanging in their tutorial
[10:33] <Ad0> adafruit*
[10:33] <ali1234> that repo should be enabed by default
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[10:35] <gordonDrogon> morning ...
[10:37] <Ad0> hello
[10:37] <Ad0> I just noticed that pi4j java library wraps wiringpi
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[10:37] <gordonDrogon> lots of stuff wraps wiringPi ...
[10:37] <gordonDrogon> I've lost track.
[10:37] <Ad0> hehe
[10:37] <Ad0> pretty cool
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[10:51] <Hanonim> Hi fellas !
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[11:15] <swensson> When Im on the RPI and try to issue ifconfig, the command is not found. But when I ssh into the rpi the command works? :O
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[11:16] <BurtyB> swensson, my guess would be "/sbin/" isn't in your path when it doesn't work but I have no idea what "on" means
[11:18] <gordonDrogon> my guess too - echo $PATH
[11:18] <swensson> BurtyB, when Im using the physical raspberry with a keyboard and try to use the ifconfig command it dosn't find the command, but when I use ssh to connect to the rpi the ifconfig command workks :P
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[11:21] <swensson> echo $PATH: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games (SSH) /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/var/usr/games on the physical pi
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[11:23] <BurtyB> logging in as the same user?
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[11:23] <swensson> Yeah
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[11:24] <gordonDrogon> it's weird then.
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[11:30] <kriops> How can I upgrade from Wheezy to Jessie? I have done apt-get update, upgrade and dist-upgrade, but after reboot I'm still on the old version.
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[11:31] <kriops> Do I need to reflash the SD card?
[11:32] <gordonDrogon> kriops, did you edit wheezy to jessie in /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[11:32] <ShorTie> reflash is best
[11:32] <ShorTie> per Debian
[11:32] <gordonDrogon> you shouldn't have to reflash - I have a serve rthat's gone from woody to jessie without reimaging, but sometimes it's better.
[11:33] <kriops> gordonDragon no I did not.
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[11:33] <kriops> I have no important info on the card, but it's maybe 3 or 4 years old. IS it less hassle to reflash, because then that's what I will do.
[11:35] <gordonDrogon> kriops, that's the issue then - you're upgraded Wheezy, but not told it to move to jessie.
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[11:37] <kriops> I forgot to tmux this irc session, I will check out the file and brb.
[11:37] <kriops> Thanks for now!
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[11:51] <ali1234> "the item has arrived in the country of destination" woo
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[11:53] * ShorTie Thinkz, that is only a 1 legged jump up-n-down
[11:53] <ShorTie> get to use both when you get it, hehe
[11:57] <BurtyB> ali1234, your boards?
[11:57] <ali1234> yes
[11:58] <BurtyB> ali1234, :)
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[12:20] <hypermist> got my pi0w
[12:20] <hypermist> now its probs gunna sit there like the rest of my pi0's...
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[12:50] <gordonDrogon> nah - get it going :)
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[12:58] <phil42> mine is up and doing the original one's job
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[12:58] <phil42> which is irc client
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[13:30] <hypermist> idk what to do with my pi0's i have 6 doing nothing
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[13:35] <SpeedEvil> Make a cluster.
[13:35] <SpeedEvil> IT's very easy to make a cluster that does nothing
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[13:39] <brainzap> make a giveaway in #raspberrypi
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[13:40] <gordonDrogon> https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/cluster-hat
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[13:48] <RoyK> how can I have raspbian *not* autoextend its rootfs?
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[13:49] <ShorTie> it is in /boot, look in config.txt
[13:50] <ShorTie> or is it cmdline.txt, it's 1 of those
[13:52] <BurtyB> cmdline.txt
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[13:53] <ShorTie> ya, that makes more sense
[13:55] <RoyK> hm - so just remove 'init=/usr/lib/raspi-config/init_resize.sh' ?
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[13:57] <gordonDrogon> I'd replace it with something else. not remove it.
[13:58] <shauno> I'd remove it :) default should be sane
[13:58] <gordonDrogon> actually, yes. just checked. no init= in a 'normal' system.
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[14:00] <SpeedEvil> Does anyone happen to know the far IR response of the Pi and PI2 camerras? Specifically I'm wondering about response from 800-1050nm. I expect it to be significantly down over 700nm, but don't know if it's useless or decent.
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[14:23] <waveform> SpeedEvil, not much beyond 940 if I recall correctly - can't remember where I read that though
[14:24] <waveform> some interesting comments from jbeale (who is very knowledgeable on cameras generally) in this thread: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=60103
[14:26] <waveform> and here's another handy post (non-specific to the pi cameras, but *probably* relevant): https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1031904#p1031904
[14:27] <SpeedEvil> yeah. I'm interested in IR spectroscopy. That sort of response would be OK.
[14:28] <SpeedEvil> I guess I should find a suitable grating and have a play
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[14:40] <waveform> SpeedEvil, you may also want a look at https://github.com/khufkens/pi-camera-response-curves - it's only got visible spectrum stuff, but dig into the est-nir-response folder and there's some interesting stuff there...
[14:43] <SpeedEvil> yeah - saw that too
[14:44] <SpeedEvil> Though extrapolations absent measurements...
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[14:47] <kingarmadillo> hi, I have 2 raspberrypis connected to 2 TVs and i want to set them up so that i can have a list of URLs in a UI that i can change and the pis will then go to the new URLs. is there anything like that?
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[15:01] <oq> kingarmadillo: fullpageos?
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[15:08] <andoma> quick question cause I don't have raspbian installed, but does it come with snap as in https://snapcraft.io/
[15:08] <andoma> ?
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[15:09] <oq> andoma: come with as in you can install it from the repo or it's already installed?
[15:10] <andoma> if it's installable like with "apt install snapd" or whatever it might be called (it's snapd on ubuntu IIRC)
[15:11] <oq> andoma: no snapd on the raspbian repo I can find :/
[15:11] <andoma> ah ok, thanks anyway
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[15:19] <hypermist> i just have no idea what to use my pi0's for
[15:19] <hypermist> lol
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[15:19] <hypermist> so i've just been hoarding
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[15:31] <zer0her0> that's why we can't have nice things in this world.
[15:34] <gordonDrogon> I have a pair of zeros I've just replaced with 0W's ...
[15:35] <brainzap> can the 0W do 5ghz?
[15:35] <gordonDrogon> I got the zeros to replace the A+'s ... which are now lying spare ...
[15:35] <gordonDrogon> brainzap, no - it's the same chip as on the Pi v3.
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[15:35] <hoshi> hello ;)
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[15:35] <zer0her0> I still need to "upgrade" my RPi B 1
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[15:36] <zer0her0> 'allo.
[15:36] <brainzap> I guess I have to move all power devices into 5ghz and the dummies get the 2.4
[15:36] <phil42> the antenna is cut for 2.4ghz
[15:36] <gordonDrogon> zer0her0, that's ok - I have original Pi's still doing usefull stuff :)
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[15:37] <zer0her0> yep, I am not pushing anything to heavy through it so it's able to keep paces for now. but I am tempted by the 3 and the 0W
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[15:37] <zer0her0> Wanted a 0 just cause of it's name though didn't have a use case for it. :)
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[15:53] <wiselydoesit> another day without my Pi Zero W :-(
[15:54] <phil42> mine arrived i 1 week from pihut
[15:54] <phil42> in 1
[15:54] <phil42> i was surprised
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[15:59] <Trivia_Man> Hello, I'm having trouble with a project (involves breadboard and LEDs)
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[15:59] <Trivia_Man> basically I want to connect an 8th LED to my breadboard so I can control them all separately, but I can't seem to locate a pin that would work
[16:00] <gordonDrogon> http://unicorn.drogon.net/pi17leds.jpg
[16:00] <Trivia_Man> I've used physical pins: 6, 11, 12, 13, 15, 16, 18, 22
[16:01] <gordonDrogon> type: gpio readall to get a list of pins.
[16:02] <Trivia_Man> and how do I know which I can use to turn the 8TH led on/off? (rpi3)
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[16:03] <wiselydoesit> phil42: when did you order mate? i ordered on the 28th of Feb, they said it was dispatched on the 1st of March and i'm awaiting a UK delivery myself from the same place.
[16:03] <wiselydoesit> thepihut are usually flawless
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[16:03] <gordonDrogon> physical pins: 7, 11, 13, 15, 12,16, 18, 22 are traditionall the first 8 usable GPIO pins you can use.
[16:04] <gordonDrogon> Trivia_Man, physical pin 6 is not a usable gpio pin - it's 0v.
[16:05] <Trivia_Man> by 6 I meant ground, sorry
[16:05] <gordonDrogon> ok. add physical pin 7 and you have 8 pins.
[16:05] <shauno> wiselydoesit: I ordered on the 28th, got a dispatch notification at lunchtime, and arrived monday
[16:05] <gordonDrogon> that's often used for 1-wire interface, so make sure that's turned off via raspi-config
[16:05] <Trivia_Man> the thing is if I plug it into 7, the LED turns on by itself
[16:05] <Trivia_Man> like without any commands
[16:05] <gordonDrogon> well - yes.
[16:06] <gordonDrogon> it probably means 1-wire is enabled.
[16:06] <gordonDrogon> run raspi-config and disable it.
[16:06] <Trivia_Man> what does that mean>
[16:06] <wiselydoesit> shauno: thats what makes me think mines gone missing, F**king royal mail.
[16:06] <gordonDrogon> wiselydoesit, family friendly please - even abberviations fall foul.
[16:06] <wiselydoesit> sorry gordonDrogon
[16:07] <gordonDrogon> Trivia_Man, it means just that - the pin is being used by the 1-Wire interface device - you need to run sudo raspi-config, go through the menus and disable it, then reboot.
[16:07] <Trivia_Man> aight, disabled it
[16:07] <Trivia_Man> what's the 1-wire interface device?
[16:07] <gordonDrogon> Trivia_Man, google it another time.
[16:07] <wiselydoesit> i've logged a support ticket about it at PiHut anyway but we will see where that goes.
[16:08] <gordonDrogon> Trivia_Man, try: gpio -1 mode 7 out ; gpio -1 write 7 1 ; sleep 1 ; gpio -1 write 7 0
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[16:09] <Trivia_Man> turns on and then off
[16:10] <Trivia_Man> ah it works wonders now, thanks!
[16:10] <phil42> wiselydoesit> i ordered on the 28th, got shipping confirmation on the 28th, delivery on the 7th in the US
[16:12] <wiselydoesit> phil42: does the pihut have a US distribution centre or did that come from the UK?
[16:12] <phil42> it came from UK
[16:12] <wiselydoesit> yeah, mines 100% gone missing man :(
[16:12] <gordonDrogon> Trivia_Man, and from the command-line: for i in `seq 0 7`; do ; gpio mode $i out ; done
[16:12] <wiselydoesit> stupid postal service
[16:12] <phil42> in a bright green bubble envelope
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[16:13] <gordonDrogon> Trivia_Man, then the same, but: for i in `seq 0 7` ; do gpio write $i 1 ; done
[16:13] <gordonDrogon> etc.
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[16:13] <phil42> i think the green helped, it made everyone think of springtime
[16:13] <wiselydoesit> usually when i order from PiHut i'm like literally 150miles away from their base, its 3 days tops.
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[16:15] <oq> huh?
[16:15] <Trivia_Man> gordonDrogon: syntax error near unexpected token l
[16:15] <Trivia_Man> ;*
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[16:15] <oq> shouldn't you expect it to take more than 1 week for a package to cross the atlantic... customs and whatnot../
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[16:16] <redrabbit> hi, just got my package from pimoroni with the pi0w
[16:17] <redrabbit> got the blinkt as well to put on the pi3.. problem is i have no idea which position i have to put it in the gpio
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[16:20] <gordonDrogon> Trivia_Man, oh, extra ; before do
[16:20] <oq> redrabbit: the curved side is supposed to match the pi
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[16:21] <gordonDrogon> redrabbit, the blinkt is usually connected to the SPI pins.
[16:21] <redrabbit> i cant find a pic of it on the pi3
[16:21] <redrabbit> figured its the same layout as the pi0 so that should be ok
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[16:22] <redrabbit> better safe than sorry
[16:22] <gordonDrogon> it has a full length 40pin connector..
[16:22] <redrabbit> yes
[16:22] <Trivia_Man> gordonDrogon: syntax error near unexpected token 'gpio'
[16:22] <gordonDrogon> at lease mine do ..
[16:22] <oq> gordonDrogon: he means pimoroni's supplied picture only shows a pi0
[16:22] <redrabbit> so there is two ways to connect it
[16:22] <gordonDrogon> oh, ok - left to right ..
[16:22] <oq> https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0174/1800/products/Blinkt_-_Zero-2_1024x1024.JPG?v=1466525645
[16:22] <gordonDrogon> Trivia_Man, sorry - you need to learn more bash and I need to learn to type.
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[16:23] <gordonDrogon> Trivia_Man, for i in `seq 0 7`; do gpio mode $i out ; done
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[16:23] <wiselydoesit> oq: i'm in the UK dude, i live like 100 miles away from Mann Enterprises which is who runs ThePiHut. i've ordered like 15 Raspberrys before now from the same guys never had an issue with delays like this its kind of safe to say either the postman has had me or its been swiped in the sorting office.
[16:23] <redrabbit> so when you can read blinkt the connector is on top, should be the same on the pi3
[16:23] <gordonDrogon> Trivia_Man, and: for i in `seq 0 7`; do gpio write $i 1 ; done
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[16:38] <redrabbit> just got a uart to usb
[16:39] <redrabbit> i have no clue how to use it, i mean software wise, plugged the rx tx gnd to a orange zero and the usb to my pi3 for a trial
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[16:40] <redrabbit> i dont see something like /dev/ttyUSB0
[16:40] <redrabbit> hum, its there
[16:41] <redrabbit> didn't appeared on tab completion
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[16:51] <GrandPa-G> I have a python program that runs in rc.local. It prints some output that I can see as the normal startup output occurrs. However the screen is clear immediately and I don't have time to read it.
[16:51] <Chillum> output it to a file is one option
[16:52] <Chillum> the startup screen is full of stuff you don't get time to read
[16:52] <GrandPa-G> I tried putting a sleep in the python program but it doesn't seem to wait before the screen clear. Is there a way to delay it?
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[16:52] <GrandPa-G> or other half of question, what is making the screen clear for more startup output?
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[16:57] <Chillum> you really don't want to be introducing delays to your startup do you? Why not store it in a file for later review?
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[16:58] <MaekSo> just curious, what does it print out?
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[16:59] <GrandPa-G> It is more for testing purposes and I don't care if it delays a few more seconds.
[16:59] <GenteelBen> GrandPa-G is the illingest grandpa on freenode.
[16:59] <MaekSo> I agree
[17:00] <Chillum> OG, original grandpa
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[17:01] <GrandPa-G> GenteelBen: I will bite- what does illingest mean?
[17:01] <GenteelBen> Dude.
[17:02] <GenteelBen> The illingest. The dopest. The most fly. The one with the highest wickedness quotient.
[17:03] <GrandPa-G> GenteelBen: being of the "mature" persuasion, I assume that is a compliment?
[17:03] <MaekSo> it is
[17:04] <Chillum> hehe I love how people from the 80s are getting old, making for some radical old dudes!
[17:04] <redrabbit> -bash: /dev/ttyUSB0: Permission denied
[17:04] <redrabbit> damnit
[17:04] <redrabbit> i did sudo gpasswd --add ${USER} dialout
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[17:05] <redrabbit> i get the error even from root, stange
[17:05] <Chillum> sudo adduser username dialout
[17:06] <GrandPa-G> thanks, I needed my one (and probably only) compliment for the day. I leave you with this thought - "Remember, half of the world is above average"
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[17:06] <Chillum> then you have to log out and back in again for it to take effect
[17:06] <redrabbit> is already a member of `dialout'.
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[17:06] <Chillum> you have to log out and back in for it to work
[17:07] <redrabbit> did it
[17:07] <Chillum> I odn't think half the world is above average. I think a few people are WAY above average which makes most people below average
[17:07] <redrabbit> agreed
[17:07] <GrandPa-G> Only half of the people are below average.
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[17:08] <redrabbit> more mathematical
[17:09] <Chillum> I would say more like 90% of people are below average and 10% of people drive that average up to level unattainable by the common man
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[17:09] <Chillum> though the gap may be larger than that
[17:10] <redrabbit> how do you define average is the question
[17:10] <Chillum> um add up all the values and divide by the number of values
[17:10] <Chillum> standard definition
[17:11] <Chillum> be it cash, technical skills, literary knowledge etc I think areas will find more than half below average
[17:11] <leftyfb> the values are contradictory. Averaging them is near impossible
[17:11] <Chillum> what can be said with confidence is that half the world is above the median
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[17:12] <Chillum> ohh good idea
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[17:13] <Chillum> for those kids watching, it is a bowl of bran flakes and a news paper
[17:14] <redrabbit> come on you damn uart
[17:14] <redrabbit> ok got it launched... got past the permissions issues with a dirty 777
[17:14] <GenteelBen> GrandPa-G: you should browse Urbandictionary. Skeet skeet.
[17:14] <redrabbit> its … stuck
[17:15] <redrabbit> doesnt do anything
[17:15] <redrabbit> i typed this : /dev/ttyUSB0 115200
[17:16] <leftyfb> redrabbit: try minicom
[17:17] <Simonious> http://store.linksprite.com/rs485-gpio-shield-for-raspberry-pi/ I'm confused.. midway down it says to modify inittab, but raspbian doesn't have inittab, so I'm not sure what to do here.. This is a device made for the raspi, so you'd think the instructions would be for raspbian
[17:19] <redrabbit> leftyfb: i ran it, looking at the help
[17:19] <redrabbit> initialize Modem...M is the command ?
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[17:20] <leftyfb> redrabbit: https://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/connect-soekris-single-board-computer-using-minicom.html
[17:21] <redrabbit> thanks
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[17:32] <gordonDrogon> if using minicom the first thing you do is disable the modem init - unless you're actually using a modem that is ...
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[17:34] <redrabbit> ill admit its a bit confusing for me now
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[17:40] <redrabbit> turned out my wiring was bad
[17:40] <redrabbit> i have to get back in the game
[17:40] <redrabbit> ^^
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[17:42] <gordonDrogon> right. pimoroni scroll phat HD or blinkt. what next ...
[17:42] <redrabbit> ?
[17:43] <gordonDrogon> the thing I write some new code for..
[17:43] <redrabbit> just got the blinkt
[17:43] <redrabbit> turns out i cant close my pi3 case anymore :c
[17:43] <gordonDrogon> lets do blinkt in wiringPi then.
[17:43] <redrabbit> im gonna have to cut some plastic
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[17:44] <gordonDrogon> I'm moved to pimoroni coup� cases now.
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[17:44] <redrabbit> managed to getscreen /dev/ttyUSB0 115200 working
[17:45] <redrabbit> minicom left me dazed and confused
[17:45] <redrabbit> disable the modem init > where ^^
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[17:46] <gordonDrogon> minicom -D /dev/ttyUSB0 115200 ought to just work, but you can create profiles in minicom for different devices, etc. command-key is Ctrl-A by default.
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[17:49] <redrabbit> mhh, i typed minicom -c on -D /dev/ttyUSB0 115200
[17:49] <redrabbit> then ^A-M
[17:49] <redrabbit> "offine"
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[18:03] <fx159> Hey guys, I can't get the usb port working on my new zero w, could the pi might be broken? using the same sd card usb on a normal pi zero works
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[18:03] <fx159> tried it with latest raspbian lite and archlinux arm
[18:04] <Chillum> fx159: it could be a bad solder join on the connector
[18:04] <gordonDrogon> have you run apt-get update/upgrade first?
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[18:04] <Chillum> though I have not seen any solder faults on any pi yet
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[18:05] <gordonDrogon> I've plugged a keyboard into my Pi 0W's without any problems.
[18:05] <gordonDrogon> also - I'm sure you've checked this - do make sure you plug the keyboard into the right usb port! it's the middle one... - HDMI - USB - Power
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[18:06] <fx159> Yea it it the correct port, doing the same procedure on my normal zero works
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[18:07] <fx159> solder joints look ok...
[18:07] <leftyfb> fx159: if you're looking at the top of the pi with the sd card to the left, usb ports facing down. Which usb port are you using and what are you plugging into it?
[18:07] <Chillum> if he has it working with the regular zero then he knows which port to use
[18:08] <leftyfb> I misread. I read it as regular pi (pi 2 or 3 or something) my bad
[18:08] <fx159> I'm using the one labeled usb x)
[18:08] <leftyfb> fx159: what are you plugging into it?
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[18:08] <redrabbit> what's your otg adapter like
[18:09] <fx159> a keyboard/mouse receiver
[18:09] <leftyfb> fx159: does anything show up in dmesg when you plug it in?
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[18:10] <fx159> No it does not... lsusb also only shows the root hub, nothing else
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[18:10] <fx159> Already tried the dwc-otg dt overlay, but that makes no difference
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[18:10] <redrabbit> i configured miniport but when i run it nothing happens
[18:11] <redrabbit> how can you disble that modem thing
[18:11] <fx159> but on the normal pi zero usb works with dwc2 or dwc-otg..
[18:11] <fx159> Probably a hardware defect?
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[18:17] <redrabbit> OK .. god saved me i "Turned off hardware flow control"
[18:17] <redrabbit> minicom workin'
[18:18] <redrabbit> why its on by default in the first place gets me wondering
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[18:21] <Chillum> redrabbit: good find, those kinds of problems can be elusive
[18:21] <redrabbit> absolutely :c
[18:21] <redrabbit> ᴖᴗᴖ
[18:22] <Chillum> just found out the other day my thermal printer has a hardware flow control option. The print speed about tripled when I implemented it
[18:22] <redrabbit> at least it didnt waste more that 1 hour
[18:22] <redrabbit> heh
[18:23] <redrabbit> nice
[18:23] <Chillum> I guess it was just waiting for the worst case scenario before that
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[18:23] <redrabbit> gordonDrogon: what are you doing for the blinkt ?
[18:24] <redrabbit> i want to program mine as a watchdog that pings various ips and blinks hard when there is one down
[18:24] <redrabbit> with various colors shemes for various machines
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[18:25] <Simonious> I'm supposed to comment this out in inittab #T0:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttyAMA0 115200 vt100 but inittab doesn't exist, what now?
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[18:27] <shiftplusone> Simonious: try to avoid random blog tutorials from 2013
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[18:27] <shiftplusone> inittab is a sysvinit thing, which hasn't been in use since Jessie.
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[18:27] <Simonious> shiftplusone: well I've got that rs485 hat that goes with it..
[18:27] <Simonious> http://store.linksprite.com/rs485-gpio-shield-for-raspberry-pi/
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[18:28] <shiftplusone> Simonious: only the cmdline.txt change is needed
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[18:29] <shiftplusone> remove console=blah,115200, leaving console=tty1
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[18:29] <Simonious> shiftplusone: hmm, okay.. did that
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[18:29] <Simonious> I've got a usb485 dongle - it works fine, haven't managed to get the hat working yet though
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[18:30] <shiftplusone> actually, it's not clear from the instructions what they're trying to accomplish
[18:30] <Simonious> ha, yeah
[18:30] <shiftplusone> but you've done the equivalent already
[18:30] <shiftplusone> it just prevents console messages and a login shell running on that serial device.
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[18:37] <gordonDrogon> redrabbit, I'm writing software so I can use it from C/BASIC in wiringPi.
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[18:42] <fx159> So... hardware of my pi zero w seems definitely to be defective, my computer also does not recognize it when attached via a micro usb cable :-( too bad
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[18:43] <gordonDrogon> I'd not expect a computer to recognise it via USB unless you have put the usb into otg mode ...
[18:44] <ali1234> it will if you remove the SD card
[18:44] <ali1234> briefly anyway
[18:45] <gordonDrogon> it does? that's new then.. thought you had to change the internal bits by booting via SD firstly ...
[18:45] <ali1234> no, it is not new, it has been that way since the A+
[18:45] <fx159> My normal zero is recognized as BCM2708 Boot
[18:45] <ali1234> also its how you reprogram the compute module
[18:45] <BurtyB> yup and the CM1/3
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[18:46] <ali1234> must admit i haven;t actually tested it with the zero w
[18:46] <ali1234> hangon
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[18:46] <gordonDrogon> I just test it ... nothing ...
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[18:47] <BurtyB> it does for me "Port 1: Dev 14, If 0, Class=Vendor Specific Class, Driver=, 12M"
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[18:48] <ali1234> Bus 005 Device 003: ID 0a5c:2763 Broadcom Corp.
[18:49] <ali1234> (so same as usual)
[18:49] <BurtyB> thankfully otherwise I'd be crying lol
[18:49] <gordonDrogon> Bus 002 Device 005: ID 0a5c:2763 Broadcom Corp.
[18:49] <gordonDrogon> ok. needs to have no SD card.
[18:49] <ali1234> yes :)
[18:49] <fx159> I'm crying now
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[18:49] <gordonDrogon> thats a zero (no W, no camera)
[18:50] <gordonDrogon> I thought you had to jumper a link on the CM and A's ...
[18:50] <gordonDrogon> I do recall doing something like that on my original CM.
[18:50] <solars> hi, quick question - I'm trying to boot a Zero W, it works but around 10 secs after the login screen (console) is shown, it blanks and I cannot get it back - why does this happen?
[18:50] <ali1234> you might be thinking of OTG ID
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[18:51] <ali1234> that is pulled in hardware on the A+
[18:51] <BurtyB> gordonDrogon, on the CM it switches which USB port it connects using a USB A to USB A cable it works on the other port
[18:51] <ali1234> but software (or firmware) can simply ignore it
[18:51] <ali1234> on the zero it is connected to the port like it is supposed to be, so it "just works"
[18:51] <gordonDrogon> ah well. an intersting diversion. not something I'm ever likely to use though.
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[18:52] <gordonDrogon> now where was I.. ah yes: gpio -x blinkt:100:8 awrite 100 0x00ff0000
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[19:15] <gordonDrogon> grr. blinkt things. the actual blinkt board uses 2 pins to bit-bang the data out. the pimoroni rainbow hat (androidthings) uses the spi pins.
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[19:17] <funkster> anyone have experience with a 7"+ touch screen for RPI? need one that's stable/on 24/7.
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[19:17] <gordonDrogon> I have the foundation one ... touches it ... it comes on ... uptime is a few weeks ...
[19:18] <funkster> thats the 7", right?
[19:18] <gordonDrogon> yes.
[19:18] <shiftplusone> funkster: I have been using the official one for quite a while without any problems. On 24/7
[19:19] <gordonDrogon> I also have the adafruit 5" one, but I've only ever powered that up to do some brief tests with.
[19:19] <shiftplusone> But I am a shill, so take that with a grain of salt.
[19:19] <funkster> yah, looking for a larger one 10" possible, but i can beta it on the official 7"
[19:19] <lopta> touch screens?
[19:19] <shiftplusone> I'd take a look at adafruit's offering
[19:19] <gordonDrogon> shiftplusone, I suspect you are using that word without understanding the true meaning :-)
[19:19] <funkster> yeah, need a touchscreen. its a interactive kiosk type device
[19:20] <gordonDrogon> hdmi is the key.
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[19:21] <gordonDrogon> have a look at the pitop ceed screen too. actually, it's 14" https://pi-top.com/product/ceed
[19:22] <shiftplusone> gordonDrogon: "A person who pretends to give an impartial endorsement of something in which they themselves have an interest". I am using it in a non-serious way only to point out that I am not impartial.
[19:22] <gordonDrogon> oh, might not be touchy feely...
[19:22] <shiftplusone> pi-top stuff is a bit... pricey
[19:22] <gordonDrogon> shiftplusone, marginally different definition, however...
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[19:23] <gordonDrogon> yes, it's expensive. I'd have bought their laptop if it were a little cheaper.
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[19:23] <shiftplusone> I would if it was cheaper, of higher quality and didn't block all but 1 usb ports.
[19:23] <gordonDrogon> they're probably supplimenting the software stuff they are developing though.
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[19:27] <shiftplusone> or it might be that plastics are expensive to produce in low volume
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[19:28] <ShorTie> it's the mold that cost a bunch
[19:28] <gordonDrogon> yea - if its injection moulded.
[19:28] <gordonDrogon> you make 1, you might as well make a million.
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[21:16] <swensson> Hey guys, my NRF24l01+ only recives [] what can cause this?
[21:16] <redrabbit> i have been waiting for the pi platter for a while to be available with no luck
[21:16] <redrabbit> i guess i'm gonna roll my own solution
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[21:34] <redrabbit> glad i picked the blinkt
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[21:35] <redrabbit> theses leds are blinding bright
[21:35] <redrabbit> with full rgb colors
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[21:35] <Kriss3d> Im working on a owncloud right now. My next project will be a full portable NAS with redundancy.
[21:35] <Kriss3d> all done with a regular RPI
[21:36] <redrabbit> fun stuff
[21:36] <redrabbit> how are you going to do it
[21:37] <Kriss3d> yeah. I even had PCI card that would let me plug in 8 sata disks at the same time. But after finding out how little ill have to pay for a case with USB2 or 3 to sata small factor adapter with a free case from china.. Ill just use that with a big powered USB usp supply.. Or ill solder up a desktop PSU and remove the fan
[21:38] <billymichael> hi, im trying to run a python script using armhf/python. I have pulled the docker image and attempted to do "docker run armhf/python python --version" but it isn't displaying an output?
[21:38] <billymichael> Sorry im trying to run the script in docker on RPi Zero
[21:39] <Kriss3d> hmm i need to find the file config.php ( apache2) on raspberian. Where the heck is that file located ?
[21:39] <Kriss3d> find and locate dont return anything
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[21:42] <Kriss3d> ah.. it was hidden in the www folder
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[21:42] <redrabbit> https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20170308124145&SearchText=5v+5a
[21:43] <redrabbit> could be better than old pc psu
[21:43] <redrabbit> efficiency wise
[21:43] <Kriss3d> Ooooooohh neato
[21:43] <hmoney> my clusterhat shipped today :)
[21:43] * hmoney prepares to be confused about docker swarms
[21:44] <oq> redrabbit: brave
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[21:45] <hmoney> anyone else try ghost running on a pi?
[21:45] <Kriss3d> Uhmm https://www.aliexpress.com/item/USB-to-SATA-Adapter-Cable-USB-2-0-to-2-5-inch-HDD-Hard-Disk-For/32754793241.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.1.6XiigG&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_1_10065_10068_10501_10503_433_10136_10137_10060_10062_20501_20503_10056_10055_10054_302_10059_10099_10103_10102_10096_10052_10053_10050_10107_10051_10106_20517_20515_10084_10083_10080_10082_10081_10110_10111_10112_10113_10114_10078_10079_1
[21:45] <Kriss3d> 0073_10070_10122_10123_10126_10124-20503_20501_10503_10501_20517_20515,searchweb201603_9,afswitch_1,ppcSwitch_5,single_sort_0_default&btsid=3f551c93-8c7f-4520-b71d-ecb05848c593&algo_expid=3f14ca1c-ec7c-43d8-a85e-083f925e303f-0&algo_pvid=3f14ca1c-ec7c-43d8-a85e-083f925e303f
[21:45] <Kriss3d> oops
[21:45] <hmoney> #thatlinkisridiculous
[21:46] <redrabbit> why would you need 100 of them
[21:46] <redrabbit> :')
[21:46] <Kriss3d> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/USB-to-SATA-Adapter-Cable-USB-2-0-to-2-5-inch-HDD-Hard-Disk-For/32754793241.html - right link this time. Does that price seems reasonable ?? i just paid likr 5$ for that including a case from the same site a few month ago
[21:46] <redrabbit> use one that has external psu inpu
[21:46] <redrabbit> t
[21:46] <Kriss3d> doesnt 200$ for a usb to sata cable seem a bit pricey ?
[21:47] <redrabbit> id buy a 12V psu as well
[21:47] <oq> $200 for 200 cables
[21:47] <redrabbit> Kriss3d: you get 100
[21:47] <oq> *100
[21:47] <Kriss3d> Oh. Dang. that makes sense then
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[21:47] <hmoney> prob find the same thing on ebay for $3each instead of $2 each buying 100
[21:47] <redrabbit> id buy good 5V psu and 12v psu
[21:47] <Kriss3d> but yeah. I got a few of these with the cheap yet nice and useful cases.. Not bad.
[21:47] <redrabbit> and power the disks properly
[21:48] <redrabbit> you share the 5v with the pi
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[21:48] <redrabbit> could fit that in a neat little box
[21:49] <redrabbit> theses "power from two usb ports" to sata
[21:49] <redrabbit> are meh
[21:49] <Kriss3d> I just need to build a little rack - or find one made. Basically just like those little racks that will hold 3-4 3.5" drives inside desktops. Only just one for 2.5"
[21:49] <redrabbit> espcially from the pi
[21:50] <redrabbit> i guess for 2.5 you ill be fine with a strong 5v psu
[21:50] <hmoney> any of you guys buy a bunch of domains off namecheap when they were $0.02?
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[21:50] <redrabbit> nah
[21:50] <hmoney> i bought like 15 of them and never did anything with them :x
[21:50] <hmoney> 30 cents wasted
[21:50] <redrabbit> poor you
[21:51] <hmoney> ye
[21:51] <redrabbit> :)
[21:51] <hmoney> could've bought a piece of gum
[21:51] <izacht13> "Blessed" by the foundation
[21:51] <redrabbit> i get them for free
[21:51] <izacht13> The RPI foundations does blessings?
[21:51] <izacht13> :P
[21:51] <redrabbit> freenom freedns.afraid
[21:51] <hmoney> rabbit?
[21:52] <hmoney> you talking about free domains or subdomains?
[21:52] <redrabbit> both
[21:52] <hmoney> you lion
[21:52] <redrabbit> freedom you get free domains
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[21:52] <redrabbit> afraid free subs
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[21:53] <hmoney> what's the catch?
[21:54] <redrabbit> limited selection of extentions
[21:54] <redrabbit> and you dont own it
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[21:54] <izacht13> I think I got way to big a battery, can't figure out a good way to design this case because the battery is so big.
[21:54] <izacht13> RIP
[21:54] <hmoney> meaning once someone buys the domain it's gone?
[21:54] <redrabbit> nope
[21:54] <redrabbit> try it its free
[21:54] <redrabbit> i wouldnt use it for something too serious
[21:54] <hmoney> dont really need domains atm
[21:55] <redrabbit> that's all
[21:55] <redrabbit> have been using them for years its fine
[21:55] <hmoney> i can always buy a domain name from namecheap for < $1 so tbh i'd rather just own them :/
[21:55] <redrabbit> if you dont use the domain they can take it back
[21:55] <redrabbit> cause you dont own it
[21:55] <hmoney> prob safer for nefarious stuffz tho
[21:55] <redrabbit> its quick to setup
[21:56] <redrabbit> that's why
[21:56] <redrabbit> a few clicks to get one
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[21:56] <redrabbit> i have paid domains for the serious stuff
[21:57] <redrabbit> .org .net
[21:57] <redrabbit> they are not cent priced though
[21:57] <ali1234> the same thing happens to paid DNS if you forget to renew it
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[21:58] <ali1234> name squatting is actually a huge problem everywhere, and it will only get worse
[21:58] <redrabbit> indeed
[21:58] <redrabbit> all the old names i gave up are now squatted
[21:59] <ali1234> gmail never allows addresses to be reused
[21:59] <ali1234> if you don't use it for like two years they permanently lock it
[21:59] <redrabbit> http://kyll.net/
[21:59] <redrabbit> there is one
[21:59] <redrabbit> there is a phone number
[21:59] <redrabbit> :>
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[22:00] <ali1234> pretty much anything that uses natural language namespaces is prone to it
[22:00] <redrabbit> http://couak.com/
[22:00] <redrabbit> other one
[22:00] <ali1234> reddit is another example. it's impossible to evict bad mods
[22:00] <redrabbit> i used to own them
[22:00] <redrabbit> they have been like that for 10 years +
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[22:01] <redrabbit> reclick.info
[22:01] <redrabbit> ahah, why dont they let them die
[22:01] <redrabbit> worthless stuff
[22:02] <redrabbit> they literally buy all the domains that ever existed or something
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[22:03] <oq> gtlds was supposed to fix this
[22:05] <ali1234> what? no, gtlds was just a money grab
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[22:05] <ali1234> before you had to register .com, .org, .co.uk - now you have to register a bunch of other trash
[22:06] <oq> meh I have mixed feelings
[22:07] <oq> there's nothing good left on the old tlds but I am resistant to change
[22:07] <ali1234> there's nothing good left on gtlds either
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[22:07] <redrabbit> i kept by best domains i grabbed more than 10 year ago
[22:07] <redrabbit> ditched the rest
[22:07] <oq> whats worse is the uk gov deciding .uk is now for civilians too so now you gotta pay for a .co.uk AND a .uk
[22:08] <redrabbit> o-o
[22:08] <redrabbit> uk...
[22:08] <oq> ali1234: there's plenty good left on gtlds
[22:08] <ali1234> you dont need to pay for .uk actually. if you own co.uk and someone tries to squat the .uk, you can evict them
[22:08] <redrabbit> left driveres
[22:08] <oq> ali1234: huh?
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[22:08] <oq> .co.uk's get a period of a couple of years before the .uk equvilent opens up
[22:09] <oq> but there's nothing more than that afaik
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[22:10] <ali1234> its 5 years
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[22:10] <oq> yeah
[22:11] <oq> 5 years after they launched the thing
[22:11] <ali1234> oh, i see
[22:11] <oq> so once 2019 hits all those .uk domains are up for grabs
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[22:11] <ali1234> so like i said, money grab
[22:11] <oq> well
[22:11] <oq> .uk already existed, it was just reserved for government stuff
[22:12] <oq> like police.uk
[22:12] <oq> they just changed their minds about it, it's unrelated to gtlds
[22:14] <oq> I do think selling them to the highest bidder was a mistake,
[22:14] <oq> or rather that $250,000 or w/e
[22:15] <ali1234> any namespace that allows human readable names will end up a complete mess
[22:16] <oq> but it is the easiest way for them to find registrars for the things
[22:16] <ali1234> yeah even though it is terrible it is still better than anything else
[22:17] <ali1234> there's just no solution for the problem other than throwing everything away and starting over every now and then
[22:17] <ali1234> i expect it was a money grab anyway
[22:18] <ali1234> uk government started selling off their huge block of IPv4 addresses recently for the same reason
[22:18] <oq> like if I was building a wiki I'd rather pay £25 p/a t
[22:18] <ali1234> and the post office
[22:18] <oq> for thing.wiki than thingwiki.com
[22:18] <ali1234> basically tories took power and started selling anything not nailed down, like they always do
[22:19] <oq> there is no point holding onto ipv4.. before you know it they would be worthless because everyone would have moved to ipv6
[22:19] <ali1234> they sold for about £4 per address lol
[22:20] <oq> that's quite a lot no?
[22:20] <ali1234> £15m if they shift all of them
[22:20] <oq> better to sell them now, get some use out of them before they disappear
[22:20] <ali1234> a lot for you and me, nothing for the government
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[22:20] <oq> could be part of a plan to force ipv6 on consumer isps
[22:20] <ali1234> it's ideological. tories believe that government should not own anything, or exist outside of the police and army
[22:21] <oq> get rid of your ipv4 stockpile
[22:21] <ali1234> it's not about the money at all
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[22:21] <Deusdeorum> can anyone recommend a LED display to power a digital clock?
[22:21] <ali1234> so i guess it;s not a money grab after all... except for the people they sold it to
[22:22] <ali1234> who resell it for a huge markup
[22:22] <oq> I would be mad if they decided to sell... say nominet, but ipv4? meh
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[22:22] <ali1234> they don't own nominet tho
[22:23] <ali1234> it's a private NPO
[22:23] <oq> oh
[22:23] <ali1234> otherwise they probably would have
[22:24] <Simonious> finally got this working http://store.linksprite.com/rs485-gpio-shield-for-raspberry-pi/ by doing a couple of the things mentioned here: http://www.briandorey.com/post/Raspberry-Pi-3-UART-Boot-Overlay-Part-Two
[22:24] <binaryhermit> Conservative's just a euphemism for mentally retarded, IMO
[22:24] <binaryhermit> or evil if you prefer
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[22:25] <gordonDrogon> APA102 vs. SK9822 pixel LEDs... When clones differ )-:
[22:25] <oq> binaryhermit: they've also got unionist in their title... but they seem to be trying their darnest to scotland to leave
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[22:27] <oq> it is interesting though how someone will get chastised for saying damn in this channel but not retarded
[22:28] <oq> perhaps it depends on who's saying it......
[22:28] <gordonDrogon> remember rule 1: don't be a jerk.
[22:28] <ali1234> no i think it depends more on who notices
[22:29] <oq> gordonDrogon: who's being a jerk?
[22:29] <ali1234> also the number one reason for getting banned is arguing about the rules
[22:29] <oq> ali1234: I agree, almost like they are getting baited into an argument some times
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[22:30] <ali1234> baiting the mods into banning you is a really stupid passtime
[22:30] <oq> ali1234: the mods are doing the baiting. :)
[22:30] <ali1234> suuuuure
[22:32] * binaryhermit shouldn't have said what he said
[22:34] <binaryhermit> and I'm kinda shocked I haven't faced mod action
[22:35] <Chillum> with people in the highest offices saying worse, it is hard to get attention these days
[22:35] <oq> Chillum: build a wall
[22:36] <Chillum> pft, that would cost billions
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[22:39] <ali1234> does anyone actually understand how fakechroot works?
[22:39] <ali1234> should i just use schroot instead?
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[22:40] <ali1234> does anyone understand how that works?
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[22:43] <cryptic0> Anyone here?
[22:43] <oq> yes
[22:43] <cryptic0> What is the difference between Pi Zero case and the Pi Zero Protector?
[22:43] <oq> cryptic0: got links to the products you're describing?
[22:43] <cryptic0> I am getting the Pi Zero W and was wondering which case to get.
[22:44] <redrabbit> i got the pimoroni case
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[22:44] <oq> cryptic0: I got the official case with my pi0 and its pretty good
[22:44] <redrabbit> liked it on the pi0 so ..
[22:44] <cryptic0> https://www.adafruit.com/products/2883
[22:44] <oq> I also have the pimoroni cases for pi0's and they're pretty godo
[22:44] <oq> *good
[22:44] <cryptic0> https://www.adafruit.com/products/3252
[22:45] <oq> cryptic0: one has plastic at the sides
[22:45] <cryptic0> Do you think both are compatible with the W?
[22:45] <oq> yes
[22:46] <redrabbit> W is a bit smaller than the og
[22:46] <oq> the pi0w has a different location for parts on the board but the ports are all the same
[22:46] <oq> redrabbit: u wot
[22:46] <redrabbit> it is
[22:46] <oq> ???
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[22:46] <Kriss3d> Got a little question. Im having set up my own apache2 server. Im having it redirect to https. Now it warns me that my connection isnt private. Does that mean that its NOT using https or just that i dont have a certificate ? my server is running on an ip and not a domain
[22:46] <redrabbit> i put a pi0 and pi0w side by side, pi0w is smaller
[22:47] <oq> wait seriously, this I did not know
[22:47] <oq> in that case the 2nd case might not fit
[22:47] <oq> but the 1st will
[22:47] <cryptic0> I can't figure out the first picture of the Pi protector case.
[22:47] <cryptic0> All other pictures show transparent plastic
[22:48] <cryptic0> the first one shows cream color nontransparent paper or plastic
[22:48] <oq> Kriss3d: it means that your browser doesn't recognise the authority of your ssl cert maybe
[22:48] <Kriss3d> So its still ssl ?
[22:49] <Kriss3d> well in either case for some reason my browsers wont load in the page.. damnit. its always at this point that it breaks.. I just cant get my apache2 to redirect to https
[22:49] <oq> cryptic0: I have an almost identical case on a pi0, although from a different supplier, mine came with paper adhesive backing and the thing was clear
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[22:49] <oq> cryptic0: and the description says... "Keep your Raspberry Pi® Zero computer tidy and safe in this lovely clear acrylic enclosure."
[22:49] <oq> "clear"
[22:50] <cryptic0> oq Yep, so what's the first picture?
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[22:50] <oq> cryptic0: the paper adhesive stuff you have to pull off
[22:50] <cryptic0> I am asking because I like the look of this case better than the other one.
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[22:50] <cryptic0> oq that makes sense.
[22:51] <cryptic0> I am looking for a minimal set up, so I am only getting a mini-to-full-hdmi cable, a case, a power adapter and an OTG usb adapter
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[22:51] <mfa298> Kriss3d: if you're using https then it should be encrypted, but if the cert isn't valid (like using IP rather than name) then you'll get lots of warnings and pain jumping throguh hoops
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[22:51] <cryptic0> Do you know if an Apple wireless/bluetooth keyboard will pair with the W?
[22:51] <oq> cryptic0: by the way, do you have a reason for buying from adafruit? my understanding is they having rather expensive shipping costs
[22:51] <oq> there are similar cases all over amazon/ebay
[22:51] <cryptic0> oq Hadn't looked at shipping yet. How much is it
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[22:52] <oq> cryptic0: dunno, I'm not american, but it is a bit of a meme that adafruit has overinflated shipping costs for small items
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[22:52] <cryptic0> Ahh
[22:52] <cryptic0> Frak, the pi zero W sold out in 20 minutes
[22:52] <Kriss3d> mfa298, well im getting the problem with browsers saying something like it redirecting to itself.
[22:52] <oq> you could try going to checkout and it might tell you
[22:53] <cryptic0> I should have acted quickly
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[22:53] <oq> cryptic0: do you have a microcenter near you?
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[22:53] <cryptic0> no, closest one is Denver several hours away
[22:54] <oq> ah
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[22:55] <oq> cryptic0: you could try ordering from a uk site like thepihut or pimoroni
[22:55] <cryptic0> Canakit has it in stock
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[22:56] <cryptic0> adafruit: cart $24, shipping $13
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[22:57] <oq> yeah...
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[23:13] <cryptic0> haha canakit is no different. Their shipping is higher than adafruit
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[23:52] <plum> can anyone suggest a way to explicitly deny SSH access to hosts not listed in /etc/hosts.allow?
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[23:53] <plum> like something to put into hosts.deny that would say "okay, the guys in hosts.allow, let them in. The rest are not allowed" ?
[23:53] <cromulent> iptables
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[23:53] <cromulent> you can use AllowedUsers and ssh keys to further secure it
[23:54] <plum> for sure, i only have one user though, would that make much of a difference?
[23:54] <plum> and i'm using ssh keys only as well
[23:54] <cromulent> well it would future-proof it in case you ever add more
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[23:54] <cromulent> or maybe you just want to ensure that certain users can log in via ssh
[23:54] <cromulent> like you wouldn't want the games account to be able to SSH in
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[23:54] <cromulent> that probably has /bin/false anyway but you get the idea
[23:56] <plum> i see i see
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[23:57] <plum> i've looked into ufw because iptables is scary for plums
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[23:57] <cromulent> ufw works just fine too
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