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IRC Log for 2017-03-11

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[0:00] <wiselydoesit> i've found one on ebay
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[0:00] <redrabbit> link ?
[0:00] <wiselydoesit> i'm locked in a battle for it at the moment but tis hit £35 not sure to keep going, it is as useful as it looks
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[0:01] <redrabbit> the sleepy or the platter?
[0:01] <wiselydoesit> sleepy
[0:01] <wiselydoesit> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sleepy-Pi-2-Intelligent-Battery-Power-for-Raspberry-PI-/162393347624
[0:01] <redrabbit> he
[0:01] <redrabbit> its not cheap
[0:02] <wiselydoesit> i mean at the end of the day its an arduino too right so i can do more things with the things.
[0:02] <redrabbit> im looking at a way to that stuff + extras on the cheap
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[0:03] <redrabbit> http://spellfoundry.com/product/sleepy-pi-2/.
[0:03] <redrabbit> looks like its available
[0:03] <redrabbit> http://spellfoundry.com/product/sleepy-pi-2/
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[0:05] <redrabbit> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1647124460/solar-pi-platter < this board does the same stuff + extras
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[0:06] <wiselydoesit> hmm this is cool.
[0:07] <wiselydoesit> actually this is more me
[0:07] <wiselydoesit> i mean this is more useful for my intended use
[0:07] <redrabbit> the pi platter ?
[0:07] <redrabbit> i want one
[0:07] <redrabbit> :c
[0:07] <wiselydoesit> yeah the direct solar inputs are just awesome.
[0:07] <redrabbit> indeed
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[0:08] <redrabbit> for me it either that or some home brewed solution
[0:08] <redrabbit> i wish i could get one
[0:08] <redrabbit> maybe i should mail the guys
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[0:08] <redrabbit> i hope they can sell some at a reasonable price
[0:08] <redrabbit> its a bit expensive ..
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[0:09] <redrabbit> i was allover the sleepy pi till i saw it
[0:09] <redrabbit> ^^
[0:10] <redrabbit> power control to the usb ports sold it to me
[0:10] <redrabbit> so i can shutdown 3G dongle
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[0:10] <wiselydoesit> yeah and wake it up once a day and phone home.
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[0:11] <redrabbit> i was thinking about like 5 minutes every two hours so i can have a window to connect
[0:11] <plum> anyone use AppArmor on their Pi?
[0:11] <redrabbit> same idea ^^
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[0:12] <redrabbit> its gonna be setup as a outdoor camera / powerful wireless lan adapter / 3G / solar powered
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[0:13] <hmoney> wireless lan adapter... aka an AP?
[0:13] <redrabbit> in a remote place
[0:14] <wiselydoesit> i've had issues with some networks not allowing ssh into and assigning private ips, so i've found its easier to have the pi ssh out to a VPS or something.
[0:14] <redrabbit> 2 wlan interface / multi purpose
[0:14] <redrabbit> ap/repeater/ 3G to wlan/
[0:15] <redrabbit> the hard part is power management
[0:15] <redrabbit> the rest is done
[0:16] <redrabbit> wiselydoesit: i do that with openvpn
[0:16] <redrabbit> but its kind of the same as an ssh tunel
[0:17] <redrabbit> what kind of bandwidth do you waste maintaining the link when its up ?
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[0:17] <redrabbit> i got around 1MB/hour waste
[0:18] <wiselydoesit> i haven't checked on that. i've got unlimited data, albiet with a FUP but still, tethering isn't allowed but i've found ways around that.
[0:19] <wiselydoesit> i'm hoping to someone find a way to change the IMEI of a dongle to that of an old handset or something to get handset rates on a dongle, or maybe some tunneling fuu
[0:19] <redrabbit> i have plenty of data (5gb then capped)
[0:19] <redrabbit> just was wondering how to lower costs
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[0:19] <redrabbit> so running on less MB would be good
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[0:20] <wiselydoesit> depending on your locale some providers don't seem to count dnstunnels as traffic.
[0:20] <wiselydoesit> lol
[0:20] <redrabbit> i use a handset plan on a dongle
[0:20] <redrabbit> :x
[0:20] * redrabbit is a pirate
[0:20] <redrabbit> doesnt look like it changes a thing
[0:20] * wiselydoesit strokes his parrot
[0:21] <redrabbit> i tried to mess with IMEI but they are made hard to change for obvious reasons
[0:21] <redrabbit> good luck doing that
[0:21] <redrabbit> its not impossible
[0:21] <wiselydoesit> yeah i've resorted to an crappy android burner, until i can find a dongle with MTK chipset, i know where i am with MTK chips.
[0:21] <redrabbit> i saw suspicious looking websites selling software for 4000$ for that purpose
[0:21] <redrabbit> when i was looking
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[0:21] <wiselydoesit> damn
[0:21] <redrabbit> no wonder what it's used for
[0:22] <wiselydoesit> ofcourse
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[0:22] <wiselydoesit> in my country its 5 years for swapping an imei as a service
[0:22] <redrabbit> i got my 3g dongle second hand from greece
[0:23] <wiselydoesit> i.e in a local backstreet
[0:23] <redrabbit> for like 13 bucks
[0:23] <redrabbit> huawei dongle, its good stuff
[0:23] <redrabbit> i wish i suceeded at turning it to m
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[0:23] <redrabbit> modem mode
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[0:23] <redrabbit> now its working as a gateway
[0:24] <wiselydoesit> i've got 2 of them here an E156 or something and a E something else
[0:24] <wiselydoesit> one comes up as an web ui and the other as just a CDC interface
[0:24] <wiselydoesit> i think its the E220 gimme a second
[0:24] <redrabbit> got two E3531
[0:25] <redrabbit> they are really easy to setup but the web interface sucks for cli
[0:25] <redrabbit> its full of js
[0:25] <redrabbit> you can change usb mode and boot them in modem mode i just never suceeded at it
[0:26] <wiselydoesit> i've succeeded in debranding them anyway
[0:26] <redrabbit> nice
[0:26] <wiselydoesit> took away the horrendous Vodafone UK
[0:26] <wiselydoesit> firmware
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[0:27] <redrabbit> i haven't messed with the firmware yet
[0:27] <redrabbit> i should do it before i actually finish the project
[0:27] <redrabbit> to see if i get power saving
[0:29] <wiselydoesit> i've just completed a 4.7Km 5.8Ghz link i'm really proud of
[0:29] <redrabbit> neat
[0:29] <redrabbit> los ?
[0:29] <wiselydoesit> theres line of sight at the broadcast site, so just using 7510N TP-Links
[0:29] <redrabbit> ^^
[0:29] <wiselydoesit> not much really
[0:30] <redrabbit> best i did is 750 with 2.4ghz
[0:30] <wiselydoesit> was actually one of those where i just plugged it in and it worked. was really amazed for £100 of kit.
[0:30] <redrabbit> no line of sight
[0:30] <redrabbit> i had like 75% signal though
[0:30] <redrabbit> power/quality
[0:30] <Wetmelon> wiselydoesit: Big ol' pointy antennae?
[0:31] <wiselydoesit> 30m flag plog lashed to the side of the house Wetmelon lmao
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[0:31] <redrabbit> 4.7Km is good
[0:31] <wiselydoesit> and its up the hill from the target so life was easy, its taught me some radio stuff i didn't know also
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[0:31] <redrabbit> is that a low noise zone
[0:31] <wiselydoesit> the box says 14km
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[0:31] <wiselydoesit> rural area
[0:31] <wiselydoesit> house and farm house
[0:32] <redrabbit> it helps
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[0:32] <wiselydoesit> majorly theres is 0 noise
[0:32] <redrabbit> what's te ping like
[0:32] <redrabbit> throughput
[0:32] <wiselydoesit> a slight buzz low down on sdr scale from agriculture stuff
[0:32] <wiselydoesit> sensors and crap
[0:32] <wiselydoesit> the home line is only 24mg DSLMax
[0:33] <wiselydoesit> but you can watch iplayer on the other end, not in HD but browsing, email and stuff.
[0:33] <redrabbit> you didnt iperf point to point ?
[0:33] <wiselydoesit> it works stable its the main thing.
[0:33] <redrabbit> ^^
[0:33] <redrabbit> wondering what's the ping like
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[0:34] <wiselydoesit> i'd have to check.
[0:34] <redrabbit> ugh i have to backup all my pis
[0:34] <wiselydoesit> theres an Pi3 on the other end just emitting a basic AP
[0:34] <redrabbit> all theses tiny cards im not going to know what is what
[0:34] <wiselydoesit> lol i've commandeered a bottle of nail varnish for marking SDs
[0:35] <redrabbit> im gonna swap my cards and resize the partitions. yawn
[0:36] <wiselydoesit> i've been installing the package kali-linux-full on an Pi3, my spare card i'm using is only a Class 10, currently into the 2nd hour.
[0:36] <redrabbit> so i can get back the u3 sd card i have around in the pi0<
[0:36] <redrabbit> w
[0:36] <ShorTie> you can get 10 sdcard cases for a buck off of ebay
[0:37] <redrabbit> ShorTie: link
[0:37] <redrabbit> ah. cases
[0:37] <redrabbit> i thought sd card
[0:37] <redrabbit> ^^
[0:37] <wiselydoesit> yeah, my main cards a Samsung Evo, man am i noticing my moneys worth right now.
[0:37] <redrabbit> the cards are not cheap theses days
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[0:37] <redrabbit> well, relatively to the boards
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[0:38] <wiselydoesit> i paid 29.99 for an 128 Samsung Evo at a retail store just to be certain
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[0:38] <wiselydoesit> i don't trust ebay for SDs anymore
[0:38] <redrabbit> they are cheap
[0:38] <wiselydoesit> not matter where it comes from
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[0:38] <wiselydoesit> i seen 128gb SDs on ebaby for 5 bucks lol
[0:38] <redrabbit> they used to be cheaper now you only have large capacities
[0:38] <redrabbit> the rest ain't competitive
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[0:39] <redrabbit> i got a 4gb class 10 for 3euro on aliexpress
[0:39] <redrabbit> to try
[0:39] <redrabbit> 1st time i get a non-brand name card
[0:43] <swift110> plugwash: cool I have a t420 as well
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[0:44] <plum> does anyone know how to decrease the amount of alerts that PSAD puts out?
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[0:56] <brent77777> does anyone stream 3d iso files using kodi on their rpi?
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[1:13] <brent77777> anyone here?
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[1:16] <ShorTie> nop
[1:16] <Chillum> nobody
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[1:22] <brent77777> does anyone stream 3d iso movies using kodi on their rpi?
[1:23] <redrabbit> i dont even know what that means
[1:24] <ali1234> it means taking a 3D blu ray
[1:24] <ali1234> ripping it to an iso
[1:24] <ali1234> and then playing it on kodi
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[1:25] <brent77777> i read it is suppose to work, but no luck playing on my rpi
[1:25] <ali1234> if i had a dollar for every blog post that said something worked but actually it doesn't...
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[2:14] <HeXiLeD> any reason why when editing crontab -e -u user i get 996 and cant edit it ?
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[2:23] <HeXiLeD> what exactly is the /usr/bin/sensible-editor
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[2:39] <shauno> HeXiLeD: sensible-editor is just a shellscript that tries to figure out what editors you have available, and what $EDITOR (or $VISUAL) are set to
[2:40] <HeXiLeD> something changed here. is there a shell cmd to set all the default options for the pi ?
[2:40] <HeXiLeD> rpi config or sometihing ?
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[2:58] <HeXiLeD> the problem seems to happen when root tries to edit a user cron. The user doing it does not get this issue
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[3:08] <ball> Hello
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[4:37] <trompstomp> Hi all. I have been looking into running a few older x86 applications on the Raspberry Piand it appears I have two options. using either Qemu or Exagear with wine. I was curious if anyone has tried either of these and what your results were. Or if anyone had a better solution. Yes I could get an old x86 machine but thats nots as much fun :)
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[4:41] <clever> trompstomp: one insane idea, qemu-user allows running linux apps from a different arch
[4:42] <clever> trompstomp: i have used that to run unmodified arm binaries on x86, and i have had minor sucessess running unmodified linux-x86 binaries on arm
[4:44] <trompstomp> would that allow running old dos/windows applications?
[4:45] <clever> not directly
[4:45] <clever> but it would open up the option of the x86 wine build maybe working
[4:46] <trompstomp> Are you familiar with the Exagear? from the few sources I've read it sounds good. Almost too good
[4:47] <clever> never heard of it
[4:47] <trompstomp> fair enough :)
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[4:49] <clever> trompstomp: potentialy of use: https://github.com/trailofbits/mcsema https://infoscience.epfl.ch/record/166081/files/revgen.pdf http://s2e.epfl.ch/
[4:50] <clever> trompstomp: https://github.com/dslab-epfl/s2e
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[5:15] <HeXiLeD> Is there any way to increase the rpi 3 ram capacity ? Mods or addons ?
[5:16] <ali1234> it depends on your definition of RAM
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[5:17] <ali1234> the answer is almost certainly no though
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[5:20] <Sonny_Jim> No
[5:20] <Sonny_Jim> It's actually baked into the system-on-chip
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[5:21] <HeXiLeD> Only swap type usb .
[5:22] <Sonny_Jim> Didn't think you could run wine on a non-x86 platform
[5:22] <ali1234> there are lots of ways you could add virtual memory
[5:22] <HeXiLeD> So next question. Can one combine (cloud?) Several rpi' s to increase e erything ?
[5:22] <clever> Sonny_Jim: i have seen mention of an ARM build of wine, but it can only handle windows ARM exe files, so no normal games would work
[5:23] <HeXiLeD> Lets say, have 4 rpis working as one ?
[5:23] <Sonny_Jim> clever: Yeah just reading now, it seems to use a qemu backend
[5:23] <Sonny_Jim> HeXiLeD: The problem is bandwidth between the nodes
[5:23] <Sonny_Jim> Unless you have a problem that requires a small amount of data, large amount of calculation and small amount of output data, it doesn't really work
[5:23] <HeXiLeD> How low ?
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[5:24] <Sonny_Jim> What is the problem you are trying to solve?
[5:24] <trompstomp> Sonny_Jim, it appears using Qemu or Exagear to run wine may be a solution. If you believe the hpe
[5:24] <trompstomp> hype*
[5:25] <Sonny_Jim> meh, pretty sure you can get x86 single board computers now
[5:25] <ali1234> what do you want to emulate?
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[5:25] <Sonny_Jim> They don't look cheap (in comparison)
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[5:26] <trompstomp> Honestly.. I have an a copy of TradeWars that I'd love to get up and running.. But I' not will to spend any extra money on it :)
[5:26] <ali1234> hasnt that game been remade about 100000 times?
[5:26] <HeXiLeD> Replace a small x86 home server (eeepc) with rpi's. It been running for years with 3gb and 2 cores. Runs several services and it rocks but i would like to try to improve the project concept with rpis @ Sonny_Jim
[5:26] <Sonny_Jim> Erm
[5:26] <Sonny_Jim> Isn't tradewars just a drug wars clone?
[5:26] <HeXiLeD> 2gb
[5:26] <ali1234> i think its actually the other way aorund but yeah
[5:27] <Sonny_Jim> trompstomp: Then just find a drug wars port, there's plenty around
[5:27] <shauno> funny, I remember it as dopewars (which is still in the repos)
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[5:27] <trompstomp> No. Tradewars was a space exploration, trading, war game from the BBS scene. Drug wars was later
[5:27] <Sonny_Jim> Ah ok
[5:27] <Sonny_Jim> HeXiLeD: You might find the disk and network i/o of the Pis severely lacking compared to the eeepc
[5:28] <trompstomp> and yes, dopewars was the origional of that.. but Tradewars is space exploration
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[5:28] <Sonny_Jim> trompstomp: https://sourceforge.net/projects/tradewarsc/
[5:28] <Sonny_Jim> download, ./configure&& make&&
[5:29] <trompstomp> Sonny_Jim, No ascii love :(
[5:29] <trompstomp> or ansi
[5:29] <HeXiLeD> Sonny_Jim: even if i run slq in one pi, httpd in another and so on? (Dividing deamons by the pis)?
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[5:30] <Sonny_Jim> HeXiLeD: Like I said, the main thing that holds the Pi back from being a truely useful server is it's disk/network bandwidth
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[5:31] <Sonny_Jim> Personally, I would stick with the eeepc and find some other fun thing to do, like Kodi, Retropie, make an LED blink etc etc
[5:32] <trompstomp> hehe.. I was using a eeepc to host my tradewars for a bit :)
[5:32] <Sonny_Jim> Literally the only benefit I can see in switching would be power usage, but if you are going to be running 4 of them...
[5:32] * Sonny_Jim runs some rough numbers
[5:32] <HeXiLeD> I am testing one pi as a lan server.... atm... has httpd and ircd. So far ok... but that is minimal load
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[5:33] <HeXiLeD> how about as a media server?
[5:34] <Sonny_Jim> Roughly 3 watts per Pi, times that by 4, so yeah, probably less power (unless the eeepc manages to use less than 12 watts)
[5:34] <HeXiLeD> Yah i thought about power savings ... but yah the eeepc eats less than 12w
[5:34] <Sonny_Jim> Again, you are bound by disk i/o. It's just about OK for a single h264 stream, but further than that you may experience problems
[5:34] <HeXiLeD> 5 to 8w
[5:35] <Sonny_Jim> Much easier to stick more disks/interface cards/etc into an eeepc as well
[5:35] <HeXiLeD> Yes.
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[7:50] <abasar> Hello
[7:50] <abasar> Anyone here?
[7:53] <oq> yes
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[7:55] <abasar> I want to create an IoT clock, but I have very little electronics knowledge
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[7:56] <abasar> would buying a Raspberry Pi 3, breadboard, sd card, resistors, jumper wires, LCD display and a few buttons be enough?
[7:56] <abasar> or am I missing any key compononents?
[7:58] <abasar> Alarm clock I mean
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[8:01] <oq> abasar: dunno
[8:01] <oq> sorry
[8:01] <oq> more people should be about in a couple of hours
[8:02] <abasar> ok thanks anyway
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[8:22] <Sonny_Jim> abasar: You might need a chip to drive the LCD display, depending on which one you want to use
[8:22] <Sonny_Jim> Oh and a case would be a good idea. And a power supply
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[8:31] <abasar> Doesn't the Pi 3 come with a power supply?
[8:31] <abasar> And what kind of chip?
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[8:32] <sd-m> the box cheapest version no
[8:33] <sd-m> the model here is the 1gig mem and quad core chip donno exact speeds
[8:34] <sd-m> the kit versions usaly have a supply
[8:34] <abasar> oh ok
[8:35] <abasar> what kind of supply do I want?
[8:35] <kihis> abasar: most cell phone chargers work
[8:35] <sd-m> i think they specigy 2 amp
[8:35] <sd-m> as minimum
[8:36] <abasar> ok
[8:36] <kihis> https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/power/README.md
[8:36] <mfa298> depends a bit on what you plug in, Pi3 recommends a 2.5A PSU
[8:36] <ThinkingofPython> Heck, even with a Pi2, I run a 2.5A PSU
[8:36] <mfa298> There is an official PSU that is probably the safest option to go for
[8:36] <ThinkingofPython> Which still gives me the "under power" warning
[8:37] <abasar> ok thanks
[8:37] <ThinkingofPython> My PSU is a Xiaomi PSU, pretty darn expensive too. So I'd personally recommend a 3A PSU if you can find one.
[8:37] <mfa298> I would stay away from phone chargers, they might give the appearance of working but give you various issues
[8:37] <abasar> I'll try to get the official supply then
[8:38] <abasar> Do you know what hip I might need to drive the LCD Display as Sonny_Jim suggested?
[8:38] <abasar> chip*
[8:38] <mfa298> If you use a phone charger that provides a USB socket, then you also need to invest in a decent USB cable. Not all of them are very good at carrying the power needed by the pi
[8:39] <kihis> abasar: what display you are gonna use?
[8:39] <mfa298> that's going to depend on the LCD display you use.
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[8:41] <kihis> im afraid if i ever get my LCD i want to use up and running :D
[8:43] <kihis> chinese weirdos with non-standard FPC cables
[8:44] <abasar> All I have decided yet is it would probably be 16x2, but an example of something I might purchase is this: http://www.digikey.co.il/product-detail/en/lumex-opto-components-inc/LCM-S01602DTR-M/67-1781-ND/469805?cur=USD&lang=en
[8:45] <sd-m> mmm donno if i would go for character displays same price you get cheap nokia type spi screens
[8:45] <mfa298> for something like that you may just need some voltage level convertors
[8:46] <kihis> abasar: https://learn.adafruit.com/drive-a-16x2-lcd-directly-with-a-raspberry-pi/overview
[8:47] <sd-m> http://ledsee.com/index.php/en/lcd-display
[8:47] <sd-m> they even have e-paper screens now fairly cheap
[8:48] <mfa298> if this for an alarm clock (so presumably going by a bed) a character display might be a better option than spi.
[8:48] <mfa298> with the growing evidence to stay away from computer/tablet screens before bed for better sleep
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[8:49] <sd-m> whatever you do do not buy blue leds then
[8:49] <sd-m> cause that will do the same
[8:50] <kihis> red is the most neutral for sleeping
[8:50] <abasar> not planning on using any leds at all
[8:51] <sd-m> yeah not saying character displays are bad or anything but they are quite outdated though and there are cooler cheaper alternatives although prehaps if you just use any wireing scheme to hook the lcd up and already have the software for it doesn't matter i looked at it from the perspective where you still need to write all the code yourself
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[8:53] <mfa298> if you do have to write the code yourself the character dispalys are really simple.
[8:54] <kihis> actually suprisingly cheap http://ledsee.com/index.php/en/lcd-display/graphic-lcd-display/3-2-inch-tft-lcd-240-320-touch-screen-on-pcb-detail
[8:54] <mfa298> I'm currently trying to get a spi lcd screen to work on a non Pi SBC and I'm having to write all the code myself starting from an interface for spidev
[8:54] <sd-m> donno don't have an spi version but an obscure character screen can still be a hassle
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[8:55] <kihis> your life will get tough when i get PCB's i ordered and try to get that working: http://www.buydisplay.com/default/3-4-inch-240x160-dot-matrix-lcd-display-serial-interface-black-on-white
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[9:02] <abasar> So correct me if I'm wrong, what I should be ordering is: Raspberry Pi 3, Breadboard, SD card, Jumper wires, Resistors, LCD display (character or something else), power supply and a few buttons (I can probably find more common electronic components like voltage converters etc. around in my area)?
[9:05] <oq> abasar: will it be internet connected?
[9:05] <oq> the pi doesn't have an RTC, so if it loses power it will also lose track of the time
[9:06] <abasar> yes it will be connected to the internet
[9:06] <sd-m> what type of coding/electronics background ? pi is really complex to start out embedded /electronics you might want to use something like an arduino to get your bearings with with it
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[9:07] <sd-m> depending on level of electronics i mean i rather experiment on a 5-10$ arduino then 50$ pi
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[9:07] <kihis> sd-m: 5$ zero is my choise
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[9:08] <abasar> I have zero to very little background in electronics but I shouldn't have a problem with the coding
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[9:08] <sd-m> oh yeah we dont have those here
[9:08] <abasar> but are the really arduinos that cheap? what I looked at cost pretty much as much as the Pi
[9:09] <kihis> yes there are. but if you need internet etc everything get more complex
[9:10] <kihis> abasar: just order the pi. and if you dont want to ruin pi3, order a pi zero also and try the electronics with that first
[9:10] <exo-squad> theres some cheap arduino clones.
[9:10] <sd-m> true but i just recommended something cheap to put in place of the expensive untill basics are learnt
[9:10] <sd-m> if it's pi zero or avr or other prefered micro
[9:10] <kihis> IMO it's hard to ruin pi even with electronics like that, if you have common sense
[9:10] <abasar> that actually could be a nice idea
[9:11] <abasar> I might order a zero too then
[9:11] <sd-m> you could skip arduino and just use avr
[9:11] <sd-m> it's the same just has gcc and all that instead of duoino language
[9:11] <kihis> what kind of pi channel is this? :D
[9:11] <mfa298> zero-w is probably the best option for this sort of project, small, has built in wireless etc.
[9:11] <kihis> "NO DONT BUY PI! GO TO ARDUINO CAMP!"
[9:11] <abasar> :P
[9:11] <exo-squad> its about what you need the hardware for
[9:11] <oq> also might be hard to find a regular zero right now
[9:12] <exo-squad> simple micro controllers, get an arduino.
[9:12] <oq> all the shops I've looked at haven't restocked the zero since they launched the w
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[9:12] <exo-squad> you need a linux system.. pi
[9:12] <sd-m> or both if you got extra to spend and don't have either
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[9:13] <kihis> i really hope the zero w isnt replacinig the original zero
[9:13] <exo-squad> i lost my arduino somewhere.. i never used it and it got put in a box and no idea where that went
[9:13] <abasar> actually if the zero-w has built in wireless is there any reason for me to use the 3 over it for a small project like mine?
[9:13] <exo-squad> i got a bunch of pi0 for 99 cents at microcenter when they were on sale..
[9:14] <kihis> abasar: no. use zero. it's cheaper, power efficient etc
[9:14] <oq> abasar: no
[9:14] <kihis> smaller
[9:14] <kihis> and it has everything you need
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[9:14] <kihis> (except zero needs a bit soldering)
[9:14] <oq> a reason to use a pi3 would be.. processing power, ram, not having to buy a million adaptors to get the equivilent outputs
[9:15] <oq> nothing needed for a clock
[9:15] <abasar> why would I need soldering?
[9:15] <exo-squad> the gpio isnt populated
[9:15] <oq> pi0 comes without gpio headers
[9:15] <kihis> abasar: GPIO headers isn't pre-soldered
[9:15] <abasar> oh
[9:16] <oq> you don't actually need to solder them
[9:16] <oq> there are solderless gpio headers available
[9:16] <kihis> oh :o where?!
[9:17] <oq> here, https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/gpio-hammer-header
[9:17] <kihis> cool
[9:17] <exo-squad> everybody should have a soldering iron...
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[9:18] * mfa298 disagrees, everyone should have at least one soldering iron. (why limit to only one)
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[9:18] <oq> everyone should have at least 1 reflow oven
[9:19] <oq> everyone should have at least 1 3d printer
[9:19] <exo-squad> reflow oven is too much..
[9:19] <oq> see where I'm going?
[9:19] <exo-squad> id love a 3d printer...
[9:19] <exo-squad> soldering iron is like 10 bucks
[9:19] <oq> a cheap one that won't work is 10 bucks
[9:19] <exo-squad> and is like the perfect tool to do so many different things
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[9:20] * mfa298 needs more space (I have the soldering irons and 3d printer)
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[9:21] <abasar> So is the list finished now?: Raspberry Pi zero-w, GPIO headers (2x20 Male Header), Breadboard, SD card, Jumper wires, Resistors, LCD display and a few buttons
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[9:21] <exo-squad> do you have power?
[9:21] <sd-m> capicipators to
[9:21] <sd-m> for ledscreen
[9:22] <abasar> yeah forgot power suplies
[9:22] <abasar> supply*
[9:22] <sd-m> a potentiometer if the character screen has that to
[9:22] <sd-m> for coontrast
[9:22] <mfa298> for the lcd dispaly you may not need resstors or capacitors, but havign a kit of them isn't a bad idea to get
[9:22] <oq> adafruit make segemented displays
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[9:23] <oq> would you not rather something like this, https://i.ytimg.com/vi/2VqdE-wNwIE/maxresdefault.jpg
[9:23] <abasar> I believe I should be able to find stuff like resistors, capacitors and potentiometetrs near me in electronic stores and that's why I'm not really worried about them currently
[9:23] <sd-m> yeah does depend on the character screen though they can be nasty here i need to use a max to get -10v for the contrast pin on character screen
[9:24] <mfa298> you will almost certainly find there's something missing as you start to build - it's always the way in electronic projects
[9:24] <abasar> oq that could be nice indeed
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[9:25] <sd-m> oh yeah i still have those !
[9:25] <sd-m> even like extra version that has 16 segs
[9:26] <mfa298> also a good electronics project is never complete. There's a point where it's working which should be followed by adding more features.
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[9:26] <exo-squad> mf298, uh, no.. its kind of like art. at some point you need to stop messing with it or youre gonna ruin it
[9:27] <sd-m> i have to aggree with exo here
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[9:27] <oq> you need to add a battery backup!
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[9:29] <exo-squad> if i dont like, just quit after my solder points are good enough i like fuss with them and then ruin it
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[9:31] <sd-m> but prehaps mfa meant more like "oh now i completed this i can use it for xyz add abc" and have a new project in mind :P
[9:31] <abasar> is the battery backup really necessary if it will be connected to the internet and should be powered at all times?
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[9:32] <Axy> Hello channel
[9:32] <Axy> Can ı run a rpi zero w using a 3.7v lipobattery
[9:33] <exo-squad> you'll need a power thing
[9:34] <exo-squad> power regulator board
[9:34] <Axy> Hum
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[9:39] <exo-squad> i really need to finish my rpi3 gamegear project..
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[9:43] <abasar> Do I get female to male or male to male jumper wires?
[9:44] <abasar> Or both?
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[9:45] <sd-m> allkinds are handy to have depends if you can get them cheaply i would take a few of all kinds
[9:45] <abasar> both are useful for breadboarding?
[9:45] <sd-m> otherwise you could make them yourself
[9:45] <sd-m> yeah i also have bunch of header strips male and female
[9:46] <abasar> Alright I'll get both
[9:46] <abasar> thanks
[9:46] <sd-m> but thats more if you go on with prototype and small solderd boards
[9:50] <sd-m> for example if you have pins on the pi/whatever and you want them to breadbord it's easyer to punch in a strip of header pins and use female-female
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[9:54] <oq> abasar: female to male for pi->breadboard and male to male for breadboard->breadboard
[9:55] <abasar> ok thanks
[9:56] <abasar> would you say this is enough (not including common stuff like resistors and capacitors): https://gyazo.com/fb2fef438ed9fb3a508f14272cfa6a7e ? the zero W kit includes this: https://gyazo.com/e4a878f3884a8878b370e314d0dc4a5f
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[9:59] <abasar> I forgot male to male there
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[9:59] <oq> dude, you're in the uk and buying off adafruit?
[10:00] <oq> we have resellers here
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[10:01] <abasar> I'm in Israel
[10:02] <abasar> this is thepihut btw
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[10:04] <oq> o
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[10:35] <kihis> abasar: i can you give me a link to that 7 segment display
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[10:38] <kihis> was wondering do that need some ic before it, but seems to be easy just with resistors
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[10:42] <abasar> the one here should be good, shouldn't it?
[10:42] <abasar> https://gyazo.com/fb2fef438ed9fb3a508f14272cfa6a7e
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[11:04] <grafi_> the files get copied/removed from the sdcard boot directory, but the pi wont connect to my network
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[11:28] <mal__> Hello, can I get help here with running Chromium on a headless pi ?
[11:29] <mal__> This pi has, theoretically, X running as per raspi-config boot and login automatically into GUI
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[11:30] <ryancomet> hey all, i am having problems with the gpio pins on my pi, i cant seem to get any power out of them, and i am wondering if i have just missed a setting or if i have done somthing more fundemental
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[11:37] <ryancomet> is this a well known issue? i just hope i havnt fryed anything
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[11:54] <ryancomet> does anyone know a solution?
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[12:03] <mfa298> ryancomet: it might help to give some detail of what you've tried to setup, diagram + pictures are usually helpful
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[12:04] <GenteelBen> And circuit diagrams, and a 90-minute signed captioned Youtube video.
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[12:10] <ryancomet> i have tried conecting a servo moter to the 5v pin, grnd on the pi, and controlling it using pwm from pin seven
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[12:12] <ryancomet> there is not really any compex circutry, just jumper cables to the servo wires
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[12:14] <mfa298> there might not be enoguh power on the pi 5v to drive a servo directly
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[12:15] <mfa298> also make sure you're counting the pins from the correct end
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[12:20] <ryancomet> so i have to use batteries?
[12:21] <ryancomet> i also tried using a led with protection resistror from pin seven to ground, with no results
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[12:22] <pksato> ryancomet: what sw/code is usging?
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[12:22] <ryancomet> i am using python, what is sw?
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[12:22] <pksato> software
[12:23] <pksato> can be a wrong pin asingn on python code.
[12:23] <mfa298> ryancomet: are you following a guide ?
[12:23] <pksato> have at least, two way to address pins.
[12:23] <ryancomet> i am using BOARD asignment, to pin 7
[12:24] <ryancomet> yeah, well, trying to follow a guide
[12:26] <gordonDrogon> BOARD pin 7 is not a PWM pin.
[12:26] <pksato> pin 2/1 are on corner, 40/39 near usb connector.
[12:26] <gordonDrogon> unless your Python code is using pigpio...
[12:27] <ryancomet> yeah, i am using pigpio
[12:27] <ryancomet> i am doing software based pwm, so i thought any pin would be fine
[12:28] <gordonDrogon> ok - as long as it's pigpio driving the pin and not really software it ought to work.
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[12:29] <ryancomet> but that dosnt explain why i cant get the led to light up
[12:29] <mfa298> do you have a multimeter, checking the voltages it sees between ground and 5v then ground and pwm might be a good diagnostic of whether you have the right pins
[12:30] <ryancomet> i wish i had one, but i dont... is there maby somthing i can do from the terminal within the pu
[12:30] <ryancomet> pi
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[12:30] <pksato> led is ok?
[12:31] <ryancomet> nope, no light at all
[12:31] <pksato> ah...
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[12:32] <pksato> the led is lighting using other power source, like two AA battery ?
[12:33] <ryancomet> yeah, it is
[12:33] <mfa298> silly question, have you got the led the right way around ?
[12:33] <ryancomet> it is wired in series with a 330 ohm resistor, and yeah, its the right way around
[12:33] <ryancomet> it wasnt, but i fixed that
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[12:34] <pksato> teste led on rpi board. one of legs on pin 6 (or other GND), adn other on pin 1 or 2 (5v), not lit, invert.
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[12:35] <ryancomet> nothing
[12:36] <pksato> RPi is working?
[12:37] <ryancomet> yeah, perfectly
[12:37] <ryancomet> everything but the gpio
[12:38] <mfa298> make sure you're actually using the right pins, connecting the led to the 5v (or 3v3) pins and ground should work always
[12:38] <mfa298> https://pinout.xyz
[12:38] <pksato> led is a polarized device, need to connect to correct polarity.
[12:38] <ryancomet> i have tried it both ways around, and i am pretty sure i am using the right pins
[12:38] <gordonDrogon> start with an LED.
[12:38] <ryancomet> i am on a rpi a+ v1.1
[12:39] <mfa298> ryancomet: a picture of the basic led setup might be very useful.
[12:39] <mfa298> if you can't get an led to light up using 5v+gnd and the pi is running there's something wrong in your connections (or the led is broken)
[12:42] <ryancomet> i am uploading a pic to immagur now i have tried 3 leds, and all avaliable grnd and 5v pins
[12:42] <ryancomet> http://imgur.com/a/KEZlB
[12:43] <gordonDrogon> tried turning the LED round?
[12:44] <ryancomet> yep
[12:44] <gordonDrogon> https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/gpio-examples/blink/
[12:44] <gordonDrogon> you might ave using both 5v pins.
[12:44] <gordonDrogon> is there a gap between the wires?
[12:45] <gordonDrogon> you want physical pins 2 (5v) and 4 (0v) although using 1 (3.3v) would be better.
[12:45] <gordonDrogon> sorry - 2 & 6 ... not 2 & 4.
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[12:45] <mfa298> something a bit closer might be useful, I think you might just have the led connected between 5v and 5v (whcih won't do anything)
[12:46] <ryancomet> i was using the 5v on pin 4, and grnd on 6, not 5v and 5v
[12:46] <ryancomet> have moved it so it is now 1 and 6, still nothing
[12:47] <mfa298> could also be an issue at the breadboard end, but that's juts a blur
[12:47] <ryancomet> i have also just tried concecting it into female to female jumpercables so that the breadboard is out of the equasion, nothing is working
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[12:49] <mfa298> It might be worth testing the led again with a battery, if you've put it on 5v with no resistor it's possible you've blown the led
[12:49] <ryancomet> will do
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[12:53] <ryancomet> how could i possibly have blow my 3 led's,
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[12:53] <ryancomet> nothing from a battery this time
[12:53] <ryancomet> still dosnt explain the lack of action from the servo though
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[12:54] <gordonDrogon> I still strongly suggest getting an LED going first - using simple command-line tools rather than writing any code.
[12:54] <ryancomet> i have had both working before... this week, on this pi
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[13:00] <ryancomet> i wired up a resistor and then took the 3.3v supply to pin 7 through the resistor, and it is detecting it as a high signal
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[13:04] <ryancomet> gonna have breakfast, and then try an ultrasonic sesor, will let you know how it goes
[13:06] <gordonDrogon> let us know how the LED works too.
[13:08] <RoBo_V> motion 3.2.12 support rtsp ? I'm getting invalid netcam_url error
[13:08] <ryancomet> dobut it will work at all, as all of them dotn respond to a battery
[13:10] <ryancomet> i found a new led, it now works
[13:10] <ryancomet> thankyou guys for your help
[13:11] <ryancomet> still no servo action, but i am sure i can entertain myself with a ultrasonic sesor and a led
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[13:24] <ryancomet> wooh, more problems, i have the led blinking along merrily, but after 5/6 seconds, it dies, and i have to resetup the pin as an output, cleanup the gpio and start the blink program again
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[13:39] <ryancomet> it seems pretty regular, perhaps some kind of interference?
[13:40] <ShorTie> na, code bug i'd think
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[13:43] <ryancomet> hmm
[13:43] <ryancomet> leme get the code
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[13:43] <ryancomet> import RPi.GPOI as gpio
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[13:45] <ryancomet> then seting pin 7 as an output
[13:45] <ryancomet> lemme copy paste
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[13:50] <ryancomet> http://imgur.com/a/mwQGR
[13:50] <ryancomet> there is the code
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[13:54] <ryancomet> so i dont see what could be causing the issue
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[13:54] * ShorTie Thinkz, checkout wiringPi's blinky
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[13:59] <ryancomet> wait that is c not python
[13:59] <ryancomet> is there a way to do it with python?
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[14:05] <Condor> I'm currently trying to configure Kubernetes on the Pi 3, but it seems to stay idling at "waiting for the control plane to become ready"
[14:05] <Condor> Any ideas?
[14:06] <ryancomet> no, sorry, kinda new to this.
[14:07] <ryancomet> i am still trying to get an led to blink, so not quite up to cloud computing
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[14:09] <ryancomet> does anyone know why my led wont keep blinking?
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[14:10] <brent77777> does anyone play 3d iso movies using kodi on their rpi?
[14:10] <ryancomet> no, although that sounds awesome
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[14:12] <ryancomet> my led works perfecly, and then stops and just starts flickering randomly
[14:13] <Condor> I'm running Raspbian Jessie with Docker 17.03.0-ce, build 60ccb22
[14:13] <Condor> ryancomet: connected through GPIO?
[14:14] * ShorTie Thinkz, 3d movies seem like they would be a little to much usb bandwidth for a pi to run
[14:14] <H__> I need to block the light of the red and green LEDs on the RPI. Any recommendations ?
[14:15] <ryancomet> a case?
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[14:15] <H__> it has a case. not good enough
[14:15] <Condor> Why would you want to do that?
[14:15] <ryancomet> wrapp the case in ducttape?
[14:16] <H__> it's for a night allsky camera, the problem is that the LEDs create reflections on the outer glass
[14:16] <Condor> I see
[14:16] <ryancomet> hmm, little bit of e-tape?
[14:16] <Condor> Not sure how to suppress those, but if you do make sure that you get notified about the LED state otherwise!
[14:16] <ShorTie> try 'echo none >/sys/class/leds/led0/trigger' for the act light, might be 1 for the power too...
[14:17] <H__> what is e-tape ?
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[14:17] <ryancomet> eletrical tape
[14:17] <ShorTie> http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=136266#p136266
[14:18] <H__> cool, green down, 1 red led to go :)
[14:20] <kerio> i don't think the red LED is software-controllable
[14:20] <kerio> so yeah, electrical tape
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[14:20] <ryancomet> any ideas for my led, i cant get it to keep flashing...
[14:22] <ryancomet> i know, total noob question
[14:25] <ryancomet> never mind, i moved it to pin 11 from seven and now it works perfectly
[14:26] <H__> ryancomet: cool, i happen to have tesa iso tape, it blocks great
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[14:56] <brent77777> does anyone play 3d iso movies using kodi on their rpi?
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[15:04] <bedah> brent77777, why not try to ask there: http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/search?q=3d - but discribe your problem well
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[15:11] <L0st> can anyone help me with a Pi Zero W, I have set up tethering into it via usb0 and set up Wlan0 to connect to my home network but...
[15:12] <L0st> when I try to reach out to 8.8.8.8 via ping, it uses usb0 not wlan0
[15:14] <L0st> wlan0 connects. I can ssh into it via that.
[15:14] <Stromeko> Does anyone know how to get more than one GPIO pin work as a pps-gpio? The current driver and/or device tree setup only allows me to specify one in the config. Also, it cannot be configured to capture both the assert and clear edge apparently.
[15:15] <BurtyB> L0st, sounds like you need to remove the default gateway from usb0
[15:16] <L0st> pi@raspberrypi:~ $ netstat -r | grep default default 192.168.7.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 usb0 default bthub.home 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 wlan0
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[15:16] <L0st> pi@raspberrypi:~ $ netstat -r | grep default default
[15:18] <L0st> default 192.168.7.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0.0 0 usb0
[15:18] <L0st> default bthub.home 0.0.0.0 UG 0.0 0 wlan0
[15:19] <L0st> if that helps?
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[15:19] <LordThumper> Hey is Rpi's kernel finally mainline?
[15:19] <LordThumper> or still not?
[15:21] <BurtyB> L0st, I'd try adding "interface usb0" and "nogateway" after it to the end of /etc/dhcpcd.conf
[15:22] <L0st> Thanks for the suggestion, I will try it now and let you know...
[15:22] <Condor> LordThumper: still 4.4
[15:22] <Condor> Mainline is currently at 4.10
[15:23] <LordThumper> So patches are still needed?
[15:23] <Condor> I guess so
[15:25] <Condor> But it's not that 4.4 is bad :)
[15:25] <Condor> If it ain't broke, don't fix it :)
[15:25] <Condor> broken *
[15:26] <BurtyB> 4.9 is coming .. https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=167934
[15:26] <L0st> BurtyB no joy
[15:27] <L0st> PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 56(84) bytes of data.
[15:27] <L0st> From 192.168.7.2 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable
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[15:28] <BurtyB> L0st, I assume you're using a different IP range on usb0 vs wlan0?
[15:28] <L0st> I set 192.168.7.2 as a static IP. This is so I can connect via usb0 from my ChromeBook
[15:28] <Condor> What's the subnets of both those interfaces?
[15:28] <L0st> yes I am, my home network is 192.168.1
[15:29] <L0st> So 192.168.7 is usb0
[15:29] <L0st> 192.168.1 is wlan0
[15:29] <Condor> Is IP forwarding enabled?
[15:30] <L0st> I haven't tried that yet.
[15:30] <BurtyB> L0st, stick the output of "ip route" into a pastebin or something, that should show the routes and IPs on the interfaces
[15:30] <L0st> OK, hold up..
[15:31] <L0st> http://pastebin.com/4LfK8zR9
[15:32] <L0st> http://pastebin.com/hZ0XxCap
[15:33] <L0st> the second past is of my /etc/network/interfaces
[15:33] <L0st> *paste
[15:33] <BurtyB> L0st, remove the gateway line from the usb0 definition in /etc/network/interfaces
[15:34] <BurtyB> you can also remove the 2 lines from dhcpcd.conf as I figured you'd setup the static IP in there - re the msg at the top of the interfaces file ;)
[15:35] <L0st> happy days, haha, just rebooting now...
[15:35] <Condor> what's the value of net.ipv4.ip_forward?
[15:35] <Condor> sysctl -a | grep net.ipv4.ip_forward
[15:37] <L0st> BurtyB: YOU are my HERO
[15:39] <L0st> http://pastebin.com/Wanb0NH8
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[15:45] <L0st> Right, that's me, thanks so much for your help :D
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[16:22] <doomlord> anyone around,
[16:22] <doomlord> do opengl compute shaders run on rpi's opengl version
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[16:28] <Qatz> doomlord: No
[16:29] <doomlord> i gather 'opencl' wont happen either
[16:29] <Qatz> No clue on that front
[16:29] <doomlord> do people do neural nets using pixelshaders & textures etc then
[16:30] <Qatz> I haven't seen many people use pi's for neural networks
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[16:33] <doomlord> ah, it's GL|ES rather than GL perhaps
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[16:35] <doomlord> version 2.x perhaps, compute shaders seem to be added in v3 of GL|ES
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[17:31] <redrabbit> i'm looking for a wifi scanner for the pi0w wifi, hence without monitor mode
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[17:32] <redrabbit> wpa_cli scan_results are pretty good but you have to type scan then scan_results every time
[17:32] <redrabbit> cli interface like airodump
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[18:12] <herbmillerjr> Anybody having success with cross-compiling with rpi-tools? I'm getting issues with ICU in the toolchain.
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[18:24] <RoBo_V> can anyone help with "ffmpeg_avcodec_log: Could not find codec parameters (Video: h264)" trying rtsp stream with motion. what package I am missing here ?
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[18:30] <hackal> Hi, when you are developing let's say some driver for a sensor do you directly code on the RPi or do you have some kind of "deployment" technique where you code on your local machine and through makefile/script copy the files over the network and run tests?
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[18:33] <hackal> I am asking because I need to prepare a system for several people where we work together on some drivers but not everyone has direct access to RPi
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[18:54] <RoBo_V> is there any open source app to be used along with motion ?
[18:54] <RoBo_V> open source app --> i meant for android.
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[19:48] <brent77777> anyone here stream 3d iso movies using kodi? i am having issues
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[19:56] <Chillum> I have watched 3d with kodi
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[19:56] <Chillum> over nfs, but not iso
[19:56] <Chillum> what is the issue?
[19:57] <Chillum> I found it worked best when I told kodi to display it without 3d conversion and let my TV detect the 3d signal and convert it
[19:57] <Chillum> it would work both ways, but was more responsive letting my tv do the work
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[21:08] <herbmillerjr> "undefined reference to `__cxa_throw_bad_array_new_length@CXXABI_1.3.8'' <-- Anybody know how I can get around this when cross-compiling?
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[21:15] <hmoney> microcenter had a new shipment of pi zero w's :)
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[21:18] <Drzacek> will they open anytime soon in EU?
[21:18] <JakeSays> i need to get an updated version of a package. building it myself doesnt work. how would i go about doing it?
[21:19] <Qatz> Too bad I would have travel across two states to get to one
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[21:20] <JakeSays> Qatz: there's this thing called ups..
[21:20] <hmoney> they wont ship them
[21:20] <JakeSays> wont ship what?
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[21:20] <hmoney> pi zero and zero w are in store only for microcenter
[21:20] <JakeSays> ah i see
[21:21] <JakeSays> so they're as hard to get as the pi 0's were
[21:21] <hmoney> they sell them at cost, so they want you to come in and buy stuff when you come for the zero
[21:21] <Qatz> Two choices in the US for pi zeros. Adafruit at $20 shipping. Or microcenters which you have to phyiscally go to
[21:21] <Qatz> And no microcenter any wheres near me
[21:21] <JakeSays> i'll take adafruit
[21:21] <JakeSays> just buy enough to make the shipping cost worth it
[21:21] <hmoney> no point in buying that vs a pi 3 at that point
[21:21] <JakeSays> sure there is
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[21:22] * hmoney cant wait for his clusterhat to get here
[21:22] <Qatz> Would love π0w
[21:22] <JakeSays> clusterhat?
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[21:27] <hmoney> burtyb in this channel makes the clusterhat https://clusterhat.com/
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[21:27] <JakeSays> LOL ok that is very cool
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[21:28] <JakeSays> yeah i'm gonna have to order one - just because
[21:28] <hmoney> im gonna use it to learn more about docker-compose and docker swarm
[21:29] <JakeSays> would be nice if they had a pi-3 in that form factor
[21:29] <JakeSays> well, with the same compute power
[21:29] <JakeSays> hmm. i'd want the compute 3 for that
[21:30] <JakeSays> need a compute hat
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[21:32] <hmoney> yeah im not savvy enough for the cm3
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[22:02] <JakeSays> hmoney: yeah. just need a backplane, then they're basically just a pi
[22:02] <JakeSays> i think
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[22:32] <fydel> hi! i have a hamster, a pir motion sensor and 7" display. i want to wake up the monitor from sleep once a motion is detected. any ideas if that can be done via commad line?
[22:33] <ball> My daughter has a couple of gerbils, if that counts.
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[22:34] <fydel> hehe. i mean i want to turn on the monitor if the pi if the hammie moves.
[22:34] <fydel> of the pi*
[22:34] <ball> What's a hammie?
[22:35] <bub_> hamster.. ? :)
[22:35] <ball> fydel: Is your Raspberry Pi running Linux?
[22:36] <fydel> djungarian dwarf hamster. https://imgur.com/a/KqvwN
[22:36] <fydel> yep. i am running ubuntu mate.
[22:36] <JakeSays> i have a couple of dogs not much bigger than hamsters. lol
[22:37] <fydel> i already get an email once the moves but i also want to turn the monitor back on.
[22:37] <ball> fydel: Does "xset dpms force on" work?
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[22:39] <fydel> it is says "xset: unable to open display "" "
[22:39] <ball> fydel: You may need to specify your display then.
[22:40] <clever> and it will only work if xorg is running
[22:40] <ball> clever: Good point. I didn't even think of that.
[22:40] <ball> You could ask in #ubuntu-uk too.
[22:40] <fydel> ah. great. that worked.
[22:41] <ball> WOOHOO!
[22:41] <fydel> cool! thank you guys!
[22:41] <ball> Not bad for someone who doesn't run Linux! ;-)
[22:41] <fydel> big up!
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[22:42] <ball> Yes, quite.
[22:42] * ball guesses that's a good thing.
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[22:45] <fydel> now i can surveil my hammie even better. djungarian dwarf hamster rights-activists already concerned.
[22:46] <ball> Oh! An actual hamster!
[22:46] <fydel> of course. humans best friend.
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[22:58] <ali1234> has anyone used mathematica that comes bundled in raspbian?
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[22:59] <redrabbit> no
[23:00] <redrabbit> function scan { watch "wpa_cli scan -i $1 ; wpa_cli scan_results" ;}
[23:00] <redrabbit> i added this to my .bashrc
[23:00] <redrabbit> pretty handy
[23:00] <redrabbit> the pi0w has very nice wifi range
[23:01] <redrabbit> i see more aps than with my other stuff
[23:01] <redrabbit> other tiny sized wifi
[23:01] <redrabbit> nothing like high power alfa but very nice
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[23:47] * nils_2 (~nils_2@unaffiliated/nils-2/x-2480262) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
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[23:49] * hubutm20 (~hubutm20@82.137.12.26) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
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[23:59] * mgottschlag (~quassel@reactos/tester/phoenix64) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)

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