#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2017-03-14

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[3:25] <Ivoah> How would I connect to a network that has a login page from a Pi without any GUI?
[3:26] <cromulent> a terminal browser like lynx perhaps?
[3:26] <Ivoah> Lynx doesn't have JS, so I doubt that'd work
[3:26] <cromulent> does a captive portal require js?
[3:27] <Ivoah> not sure
[3:28] <oq> Ivoah: the login page will surely be looking for a cookie
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[3:29] <oq> you just have to send a POST request with the right information
[3:29] <oq> since that's all the login page does
[3:29] <oq> and then let it write its cookie
[3:30] <cromulent> would be real easy with Python/requests
[3:30] <cromulent> probably less than 5 lines of code
[3:30] <cromulent> I have a feeling there is a more simple/standardized way though
[3:30] <ball> wget?
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[3:32] <ball> brb
[3:32] <Ivoah> semi-related question: would it cause problems to install network-manager?
[3:33] <Ivoah> Could it conflict with wpa_supplicant?
[3:33] <Ivoah> or do they work together
[3:33] <Ivoah> I just want to be able to use nmtui
[3:34] <Ivoah> If there is another way of interactively managing networks from the command line then I'd look into that too
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[3:38] * ball wonders what network-manager is.
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[3:51] <redrabbit> something to apt-get remove
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[4:15] <Ivoah> redrabbit: why do you say that? (also: use apt instead of apt-get, it has a nicer interface)
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[4:24] <GeekShadow> hi
[4:24] <GeekShadow> how many Amper charger do I need for the Zero Pi W ?
[4:24] * patambrosio (~patambros@49.144.23.147) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
[4:25] <ball> GeekShadow: It's not a charger, it's a power supply.
[4:25] <ball> GeekShadow: I'll google for the current info now.
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[4:27] <GeekShadow> adafruit are selling 2.4A...
[4:29] <ball> GeekShadow: I'd go with that then, unless you're plugging anything especially thirsty into it.
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[4:30] <GeekShadow> ball, so I suppose 2.1A is too low... it's the highest I have right now
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[4:31] <ball> GeekShadow: What do you plan to plug into it?
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[4:34] <ball> GeekShadow: You could try it.
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[4:35] <ball> GeekShadow: Looks like their starter pack is available with a 1A supply, so 2.1 isn't ridiculous.
[4:35] <GeekShadow> ball, not much
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[4:40] <oq> GeekShadow: my pi zero draws 0.1A on idle, 0.2A to 0.3A on load
[4:41] <oq> 1A is more than enough imo
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[4:42] <oq> the psu I use to power one of my pi 0's year round is only 0.85A
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[4:42] <oq> and thats with the camera too
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[4:48] <Technomancer> http://puu.sh/uHTEo.jpg getting there
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[5:17] <Ivoah> Technomancer: what are you making?
[5:17] <Ivoah> Looks nice
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[5:49] <Technomancer> Ivoah: Tachometer for my car, that for whatever reason, does not have one
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[5:50] <Ivoah> Technomancer: how are you getting the data?
[5:50] <Ivoah> Through the OBD2 port or some other sensor?
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[5:52] <Technomancer> yes, OBD2
[5:53] <Technomancer> I'm not sure what other things I should put there
[5:53] <Technomancer> I don't have CANBUS so I can't get too crazy
[5:54] <Technomancer> Ivoah http://puu.sh/uHYds.png
[5:54] <Technomancer> thoughs on what I might also put on the display?
[5:54] <[ill]will> anyone know how to hook pi zero up to uart
[5:55] <[ill]will> dont have hdmi and trying to see why this isny booting properly
[5:55] <Technomancer> [ill]will I'm afraid you're going to need that
[5:56] <Technomancer> oh, I guess there is a console available on the TTY
[5:56] <Technomancer> [ill]will how is it not booting, symptoms?
[5:57] <Ivoah> [ill]will: If you have the header soldered on you should just be able to use a console cable
[5:58] <Technomancer> if, as I suspect, it is refusing an SSH connection, then I'm afraid that later releases of raspbian have ssh disabled by default.
[5:59] <Technomancer> apparetly putting a blank file named ssh on the root of the sd card should enable it, or so I'm told.
[5:59] <Technomancer> if that's even the issue
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[5:59] <[ill]will> https://www.amazon.com/ADAFRUIT-INDUSTRIES-954-SERIAL-RASPBERRY/dp/B00DJUHGHI ive got one of these attached
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[6:01] <[ill]will> at first i tried to set it up to be a usb otg so i could ssh into it but it never showed up as a netowrking device http://blog.gbaman.info/?p=791
[6:01] <[ill]will> so im trying to see if its booting properly
[6:02] <[ill]will> thats using the whole ssh on the card and editing the config.txt and cmdline.txt
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[6:11] <phil42> .
[6:12] <phil42> [ill]will, you don't ssh in over a serial adapter
[6:13] <phil42> you solder pins into the gpio holes and connect the adapter there
[6:14] <phil42> then you run a terminal emulator program and talk to the pi over that
[6:18] <[ill]will> well i was trying that yesterday with just usb
[6:18] <[ill]will> today im using serial adapter and using com3 115200 in putty
[6:20] <[ill]will> black grd/white txd/green rxd and usb supplying the 5v
[6:20] <phil42> did you set the baud rate?
[6:21] <[ill]will> 115200
[6:21] <phil42> is that the correct baud rate? (i don't know)
[6:22] <[ill]will> yea
[6:22] <phil42> just checking
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[6:22] <phil42> did you test the connection but disconnecting the send and receive wires from the pi and connecting them together?
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[6:25] <[ill]will> yea
[6:26] <phil42> if you are not sure you have the send and receive wires connected correctly you can swap them, it probably won't damage anything
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[6:30] <[ill]will> yea i tried that already to, no change
[6:31] <phil42> i guess your pi is fried, then
[6:31] <[ill]will> :/
[6:32] <phil42> does the light blink when you power the pi up?
[6:32] <[ill]will> yea
[6:32] <[ill]will> looks like a normal bootup
[6:32] <phil42> keep working on usb gadget
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[6:33] <[ill]will> wish i could find my mini hdmi adapter
[6:34] <phil42> do you have a composite monitor?
[6:34] <[ill]will> rca?
[6:34] <phil42> yes
[6:34] <[ill]will> yea i think so
[6:34] <phil42> you can solder pins to the composite output and use that
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[6:41] <dconroy> you guys talking about a zero?
[6:43] <phil42> yes
[6:44] <phil42> see 4:54
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[6:44] <dconroy> think i joined late. just got my zero W tho
[6:44] <dconroy> interesting choice to license the pcb antenna
[6:45] <phil42> they say it works better
[6:45] <phil42> they even had to lower the output power to pass fcc test
[6:45] <phil42> and they probably didn't pay alot for the license
[6:46] <phil42> it is good advertising for proant
[6:46] <dconroy> understood. i just wish it was 100% open source
[6:46] <phil42> that has been a problem since pi2
[6:46] <dconroy> and arm
[6:47] <phil42> some of the competitor products are much more open
[6:48] <dconroy> beagle/
[6:48] <dconroy> ?
[6:49] <phil42> orangepi is the one i have seen
[6:49] <dconroy> im workin on my own board right now and would love to implement a PCB antenna but im new to hardware design
[6:49] <dconroy> and as far as RF is concerned it seems like black magic to me
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[6:51] <[ill]will> ok its not dead
[6:52] <[ill]will> still dont know why the other stuff didnt work
[6:52] <phil42> if you used the right gpio pins the serial adapter should be working
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[6:59] <dconroy> https://codeportland.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/IMG_0083.jpg 5v optional if you are powering the zero elsewhere
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[7:01] <dconroy> (red being the 5v)
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[7:30] <Technomancer> anyone have tips on how I can speed up my boot times?
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[7:31] <Technomancer> dhcpcd seems to be taking it's sweet time. I'd rather have a static address
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[7:41] <Lartza> Technomancer, That should be easy, I just don't remember what raspbian uses for networking :D
[7:42] <Technomancer> I think I got it sorted
[7:42] <Technomancer> disabled dhcpcd
[7:42] <Technomancer> enabled networking
[7:42] <Technomancer> and changed the config appropriately
[7:42] <Lartza> Uhh
[7:42] <Lartza> Yeah okay if it works :P
[7:43] <Lartza> You said, seems, did you measure stuff?
[7:43] <Technomancer> well, systemd-analyze.
[7:43] <Lartza> There should be a systemd-analyze command
[7:43] <Lartza> Ah
[7:43] <Lartza> :)
[7:43] <Technomancer> dhcpcd was nearly half my boot tiem
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[7:44] <Lartza> seems my pi boots in 4 minutes and 7 seconds :S
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[7:44] <Technomancer> once I'm done coding this thing, I get ot disable samba
[7:45] <Lartza> Server? That would take quite some time to start yeah
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[7:46] <Technomancer> yeah, I'm cross compiling, so that's why I have that running
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[7:47] <Lartza> But
[7:47] <Lartza> Cross-compiling doesn't need samba at all? :P
[7:48] <Technomancer> I'm using it for the file share
[7:49] <Technomancer> Lartza I'm open to alternatives
[7:49] <Lartza> distcc?
[7:50] <Lartza> What file share
[7:50] <Lartza> I mean
[7:50] <Lartza> Mhh
[7:50] <Lartza> :D
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[7:50] <Technomancer> okay, so basically, here's my setup
[7:50] <Technomancer> I have the pi, and I have a VM that has my cross compiling tools
[7:50] <Technomancer> the pi is running a samba server that is mapped to a directory in the VM
[7:51] <Technomancer> so the VM is using the libs and includes on the pi, and ouputs the builds there as well
[7:53] <Technomancer> thatnks to the magic of samba, I'm also accessing the code from my primary windows desktop
[7:53] <Technomancer> all so I can build this http://puu.sh/uHTEo.jpg
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[7:53] <Lartza> Right
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[7:54] <Lartza> Well I don't know then, I've just messed with package compiling on arch but either way distcc is the usual solution to distribute make load
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[7:55] <Technomancer> also, theres only like 2 files that get compiled
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[7:57] <Technomancer> and it's a custom build of GCC
[7:57] <Technomancer> it's convoluted.
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[9:04] <Technomancer> so like, bluetooth serial ports generally have similar names, yeah?
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[9:05] <Technomancer> like /dev/rfcomm0 or somesuch, yes?
[9:05] <HrdwrBoB> yes
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[9:06] <Technomancer> I'm not wanting to hardcode this per se, but maybe use some regex to make a best guess
[9:06] <Technomancer> along the lines of, this is the only bluetooth serail device, so use it
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[9:08] <Technomancer> things are going to get very intersting in the coming week. I'd really rather not have to sit in my car to work on the development of this app, but if that's what it comes to, so be it. sitting in the kitched with my laptop on the counter may very well be what I wind up doing.
[9:09] <Technomancer> unless of course, the bluetooth signal will reach to the other side of my apartment.
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[9:09] <Technomancer> its about 25 feet, but not through open air
[9:10] <brainzap> bluetooth 5 will solve it
[9:10] <Technomancer> I'll be using 2.1
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[9:11] <Technomancer> I suppose I could emulate it in the meantime using an arduino
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[9:12] <brainzap> what are you building again?
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[9:18] <Technomancer> brainzap a tachometer for my car
[9:18] <Technomancer> http://puu.sh/uHTEo.jpg
[9:18] <Technomancer> looks a bit like that right now
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[9:23] <Habbie> Technomancer, obd2 over bluetooth?
[9:24] <Technomancer> aye
[9:24] <Habbie> i wish my car reported fuel usage over obd2
[9:24] <Habbie> i would be all over it
[9:24] <Technomancer> usage in what way?
[9:24] <Technomancer> like, mpg?
[9:25] <Habbie> yes
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[9:25] <Habbie> it has a realtime view of it on the dashboard
[9:25] <Habbie> but it's not in obd2
[9:25] <Technomancer> not even on the CANBUS?
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[9:25] <Habbie> doesn't appear that way
[9:25] <Habbie> as far as i can tell i need VAGCOM
[9:25] <Habbie> which is not cheap
[9:25] <HrdwrBoB> Habbie: injector duty cycle
[9:25] <HrdwrBoB> er
[9:25] <Technomancer> I think theres a way to calculate that
[9:25] <HrdwrBoB> VAGCOM cable is like $20
[9:26] <Habbie> Technomancer, that one popular android tool i forgot the name of never managed to do it, even if it promised to
[9:26] <HrdwrBoB> torque
[9:26] <Habbie> HrdwrBoB, i got an $20 one and my car is too new for it, then i gave up again
[9:26] <Habbie> HrdwrBoB, yes!
[9:26] <HrdwrBoB> and it can, if you have the injector sizing
[9:27] <HrdwrBoB> https://imgur.com/a/quEDa
[9:27] <Habbie> maybe i should give it another shot then
[9:28] <brainzap> Thats actually so cool, to use the car as data source
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[9:29] <HrdwrBoB> brainzap: that system so far is all actual sensors
[9:29] <Technomancer> I'm merely fixing an annoyance
[9:29] <HrdwrBoB> but I also have full datalogging via the car interface
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[9:30] <Technomancer> I may put vehicle speed on there as well
[9:30] <Technomancer> it seems to be one of the supported parameters
[9:30] <Habbie> mine did have vehicle spee
[9:30] <Habbie> d
[9:30] <Habbie> and RPM
[9:30] <Habbie> drew a nice graph of the gear curves
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[9:31] <Technomancer> http://puu.sh/uHYds.png
[9:31] <Technomancer> thats what I have available
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[9:31] <Habbie> looks familiar
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[9:33] <HrdwrBoB> http://datazap.me/u/hardwarebob/moretesting?log=1&data=3-7-8-10-16-17&trim=12&tmin=93.53&tmax=100.00
[9:34] <brainzap> at the end of the day is the question, can you use the data to save money?
[9:35] <Technomancer> well, in my case, I'll shift better
[9:35] <Habbie> Technomancer, no shift advice from your car dashboard today?
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[9:36] <Technomancer> quiet engine + reasonable volume of music = can't really hear the engine revs to shift
[9:36] <Technomancer> stupid car has no tacho
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[9:36] <Habbie> oh you can't even see your RPM?
[9:36] <Habbie> ouch
[9:36] <Technomancer> sure, you get one if you have the automatic transmission
[9:36] <Technomancer> I've been driving standard for years though, so it's allright
[9:36] <Technomancer> I know about were it feels right to shift
[9:37] <Habbie> i bet after two weeks with your fancy display
[9:37] <Habbie> you can do it on ear
[9:37] <Technomancer> thats the point, the engine is really quiet
[9:37] <Habbie> ah
[9:37] <Habbie> add a speaker to your display :)
[9:37] <Habbie> i drive a loud diesel with tachometer and gear shift advice so i have it easy
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[9:38] <Technomancer> the other problem is, that I don't actually have any real indication of where I'm shifting
[9:38] <Technomancer> it's very possible that I'm shifting at 3k and I'm not realizing it
[9:38] <Habbie> that's a bit high, yes
[9:38] <Habbie> what kind of fuel?
[9:38] <Technomancer> gasoline
[9:38] <Technomancer> petrol
[9:38] <Technomancer> gogo juice
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[9:39] <Technomancer> not diesel
[9:39] <Habbie> 'benzine'
[9:39] <Technomancer> that's a low shift for a hoda civic
[9:39] <HrdwrBoB> brainzap: lol save money
[9:39] <dconroy> if you drive stick regularly the tachometer is never used
[9:39] <Technomancer> dconroy new to me car
[9:39] <HrdwrBoB> brainzap: my car doesn't save money
[9:39] <Habbie> dconroy, agreed
[9:39] <HrdwrBoB> it costs money
[9:39] <Habbie> dconroy, what i said, two weeks with the display and he won't need it anymore :)
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[9:39] <Technomancer> that is, old car, but I just got it used
[9:39] <HrdwrBoB> mine uses e85
[9:40] <Technomancer> pfft, we can't even get e85 here
[9:40] <Technomancer> though, I couldn't use it even if I could get it
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[9:42] <dconroy> depending on the car, each gear has a range of rpm/speed where the gear just falls into place
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[9:44] <dconroy> if you can get out of first then the rest is gravy :-)
[9:44] <Habbie> eh, who needs first
[9:44] <HrdwrBoB> first is easy
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[9:44] <HrdwrBoB> sit on the rev limiter
[9:45] <HrdwrBoB> first gear
[9:45] <HrdwrBoB> side step the clutch
[9:45] <Habbie> well :)
[9:47] <dconroy> side stepping the clutch for a newbie is terrible advice
[9:48] <dconroy> gonna peel out, rear end someone, then stall
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[9:50] <Technomancer> hey, I've only had a little bit of wheel spin like twice in this car.
[9:50] <Technomancer> on gravel
[9:50] <Habbie> i only manage to spin when i accelerate too hard after the railway crossing opens
[9:50] <Habbie> or, of course, in winter, when i disable the 'prevent wheel spin' feature ;)
[9:51] <HrdwrBoB> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1eLKVNSki8
[9:51] <Technomancer> it's not that I'm new to driving manual; I'm new to driving _this_ manual.
[9:51] <HrdwrBoB> broom broom
[9:52] <Technomancer> I used to drive a mazda mx-5
[9:52] <Technomancer> now that was a fun car.
[9:53] <Habbie> there's one parked right outside here
[9:53] <Habbie> it looks like fun
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[9:53] <Habbie> summer weekends the neighbours go out every day with the top down
[9:54] <dconroy> i just scrolled up, apologies. you are getting all those readings of obd2 bluetooth?
[9:54] <HrdwrBoB> me?
[9:54] <Habbie> i think HrdwrBoB went beyond obd2
[9:54] <HrdwrBoB> the ones on my screen I have seperate sensors
[9:55] <HrdwrBoB> the ones in my link are via OBD2, but I also have a seperate K line reader that does SSM
[9:55] <Technomancer> I'm just going to grab RPM, maybe vehicle speed
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[9:55] <HrdwrBoB> I have a USB one and a bluetooth one
[9:55] <Technomancer> fuel, I haven't decided.
[9:55] <Technomancer> anything ancillary to that, well, I'll need to figure something else out.
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[9:59] <Technomancer> I might tap into some of the other wiring on this car, just to get some of the info I can't get from the OBD2
[10:00] <Technomancer> things like headlamps status and whatnot
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[10:00] <Technomancer> maybe change skin based on if I have the headlamps on or not
[10:00] <Habbie> you ever drive without your headlamps on?!
[10:01] <Technomancer> Habbie not as a habit, but here in the US, is not actually required.
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[10:01] <Technomancer> It's safer to drive with them on of course
[10:01] <Habbie> yes
[10:01] <Habbie> i have them on 100% of the time
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[10:01] <JuPaname> hello
[10:02] <Technomancer> especially when your car is literally the color of the sky.
[10:02] <Habbie> yes
[10:02] <Habbie> or the rain
[10:02] <oq> pink?
[10:02] <Habbie> or whatever backdrop the people behind you are seeing that's different from your perspective
[10:02] <Technomancer> I believe the colour is officially cyclone blue
[10:02] <Habbie> basically it's never safe to judge that turning them off is safe
[10:02] <oq> in wwii when they wanted to camouflage their planes against the sky they would paint them pink
[10:02] <Technomancer> then maybe just something to remind me to turn them on
[10:02] <Habbie> Technomancer, good point
[10:02] <JuPaname> Hello i am looking for a hosting for my RPI
[10:03] <Technomancer> JuPaname you.... what?
[10:03] <Habbie> Technomancer, at night it's easy but during the day you won't notice your dashboard is dark
[10:03] <Habbie> JuPaname, mythicbeasts sells pi hosting, but i think they provide the pi
[10:03] <Technomancer> Habbie I will when I get my new guage faces
[10:03] <Habbie> Technomancer, ah
[10:03] <JuPaname> low cost
[10:03] <Habbie> JuPaname, 6 bucks a month i think
[10:03] <Habbie> https://www.mythic-beasts.com/order/rpi
[10:04] <JuPaname> j'ai trouvé plusieur offres
[10:04] <Technomancer> Habbie http://www.ebay.com/itm/390983111054
[10:04] <JuPaname> I found several offers
[10:04] <Habbie> JuPaname, last time i looked, 90% of offers i could find actually no longer existed
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[10:04] <Habbie> Technomancer, oh cute
[10:05] <Technomancer> cheaper than replacing the burnt out bulbs xD
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[10:05] <JuPaname> https://best-hosting.cz/en/raspberry-hosting
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[10:05] <JuPaname> low price
[10:05] <JuPaname> low prices*
[10:05] <Habbie> oh looks like they finally updated for pi3
[10:08] <brainzap> using raspberry pis for production, crazy people
[10:08] <Technomancer> are they really, or are they just running VMs?
[10:08] <Technomancer> we may never know
[10:08] <Habbie> Technomancer, these offers are real, as far as i can tell
[10:08] <brainzap> check the serial
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[10:09] <Habbie> i'd get an ARM box from scaleway instead though
[10:09] <Habbie> block storage instead of SD or NFS
[10:09] <Habbie> although NFS is pretty great compared to SD
[10:09] <Technomancer> real question though, why would you want to have someone hosting a pi for you?
[10:09] <Habbie> Technomancer, i can see the benefits in owning the hardware in terms of security
[10:09] <Habbie> Technomancer, compared to a VM on shared storage
[10:09] <Habbie> Technomancer, and a pi is a cheap way to do it
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[10:14] <ali1234> hi
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[10:15] <Technomancer> okay, so, for things that I don't have readouts for, what might I want to attempt adding, either with ODB2 data or otherwise?
[10:15] <Gadgetoid_Pim> ali1234, I've got a little baggie of USB connectors here that look preeeeetttyyy close
[10:15] <ali1234> y u revert my code?
[10:15] <Gadgetoid_Pim> The width/height bit? Did I screw something up?
[10:15] <ali1234> yes
[10:15] <ali1234> see new pull request
[10:15] <ali1234> also flipping is reversed
[10:16] <ali1234> and it gets double reversed when you rotate to portrait lol
[10:16] <ali1234> also the boards arrived
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[10:16] <ali1234> i've got 250
[10:16] <ali1234> they sent a lot of extra
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[10:16] <Gadgetoid_Pim> Hahaha, nice!
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[10:17] <ali1234> right now i'm trying to figure out if it is better to make the buffer be 17x17 from the start, or to pad the array after clipping
[10:17] <Gadgetoid_Pim> The initial size of the buffer is surely irrelevant since it grows on-demand?
[10:17] <Gadgetoid_Pim> I was just about to ask something along those lines
[10:17] <ali1234> yes but when you flip
[10:17] <ali1234> if the buffer is 7x7
[10:17] <ali1234> and you flip it
[10:18] <ali1234> it will stay in the left 7x7 pixels
[10:18] <ali1234> you even commented as much yourself previously on github :)
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[10:18] <ali1234> i assume scroll will do the same
[10:18] <Gadgetoid_Pim> My brain hurts, but I totally get you now
[10:19] <ali1234> the code will work with even 1x1 initial buffer, except for this problem
[10:19] <ali1234> well wiat until you read about why x and y flip are actually reversed
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[10:20] <ali1234> (it's due to how numpy stacks axis)
[10:20] <waveform> oh that's fun stuff - had some joy with that when writing an alternate screen implementation for the sense hat :)
[10:20] <Gadgetoid_Pim> Haha, oh dear, thanks for contributing by the way, it's rare I get good low-level input like this
[10:20] <Gadgetoid_Pim> I tend to just rampage over code creating an unholy dark mess of death and doom
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[10:23] <ali1234> Gadgetoid_Pim: also another thing? do you have a 3d printer? http://i.imgur.com/fFqA6GY.png
[10:23] <waveform> https://github.com/waveform80/pisense/blob/master/pisense/screen.py in case it's of any help (implements flips and rotations of the screen via numpy arrays)
[10:24] <ali1234> i feel like there should be one library for all LED matrix screens :)
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[10:25] <Gadgetoid_Pim> ali1234, I believe Gee is managing to keep one operational
[10:25] <ali1234> i have no idea if that design is feasible since i don't have any experience with their operation
[10:26] <Gadgetoid_Pim> ali1234, you mean an underlying display library with a drawing library on top? Most of the displays are so different I don't know how much it'd help
[10:26] <Gadgetoid_Pim> ali1234, but I agree on principle that a unified or at least somewhat consistent API would be nice
[10:27] <Gadgetoid_Pim> ali1234, doesn't help that stuff like Unicorn HAT is anchored to really arcane methods of hardware hackery and an API I wrote donkeys years ago
[10:27] <waveform> (e.g. the sense HAT screen presents a nice easy RGB565 framebuffer, while others require obscure PWM machinations :)
[10:28] <Gadgetoid_Pim> I like Sense HAT's setup, with the magic framebuffer trickery
[10:29] <Gadgetoid_Pim> waveform, with Scroll pHAT HD (and Microdot pHAT before it) I did some really weird stuff where the buffer auto-grows and you then pan & scan it to scroll text or show a portion on the display
[10:30] <Gadgetoid_Pim> Sort-of bonkers, but it made fancy text scrolling really easy without having to redraw
[10:30] <Habbie> that's how we all did it in the nineties
[10:30] <waveform> yeah - that is the advantage of being able to delve below the framebuffer
[10:31] <Habbie> on our PCs and Amigas
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[10:31] <Technomancer> I just heard a magic word
[10:31] <Technomancer> though, I'm a c64 user myself
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[10:33] <waveform> though the marquee method in my little sense-screen API made scrolling pretty easy too: https://github.com/waveform80/pisense/blob/master/pisense/screen.py#L177 (which is to say the implementation is very simple, but it's obviously doing a lot more redraw work under the covers)
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[10:36] <Gadgetoid_Pim> Was also a c64 user, ol' commie!
[10:37] <Gadgetoid_Pim> Yeah marquee was a nice approach @waveform
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[10:45] <Drzacek> happy pi day!
[10:45] <Drzacek> morning
[10:46] <LotR> too bad pi day is a bit too early in the year for raspberries :)
[10:46] <Drzacek> nah, you get frozen ones whole year
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[11:38] <RoBo_V> 1.87 load time over 15 min and temp 80C is bad ?
[11:40] <crash_> it will explode
[11:40] <crash_> ..
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[11:43] <RoBo_V> :-O
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[11:48] <brainzap> https://blog.insightdatascience.com/tensorflow-image-recognition-on-a-raspberry-pi-3645a1634c66#.iaq2vd8s9
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[11:57] <SpeedEvil> http://rocknrollnerd.github.io/ml/2015/05/27/leopard-sofa.html - sort of related
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[12:00] <Peanut> Hi, good morning. Does the new pi 0w still support 'gadget' mode? And if so, does the wireless chip work in gadget mode?
[12:01] <Habbie> (1) yes; (2) are you asking if gadget mode exposes the wireless chip to your PC?
[12:02] <Peanut> Habbie: Thanks. (2) No, unlikely unless I set up all kinds of routing and NAT. That's not the goal. But I have no monitor that connects to it, so I want to be able to install it headless just like my regular 'zero'.
[12:02] <Habbie> Peanut, then yes
[12:02] <Habbie> Peanut, you can use gadget mode to ssh in over 'ethernet' and then configure the wireless
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[12:02] <Habbie> Peanut, at which point you would in fact be able to have the pi zero w NAT your ethernet to the wifi ;)
[12:02] <Habbie> Peanut, but you probably don't want that
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[12:02] <Habbie> Peanut, remember to put a file called 'ssh' on the SD after imaging it
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[12:03] <Peanut> Habbie: Thanks again, yes I'll touch 'ssh' on the boot partition. And change the username/password from default.
[12:03] <Habbie> that too :)
[12:03] <Habbie> but that comes after boot
[12:05] <Peanut> Habbie: for gadget serial, would it be possible to enable a console on first boot, too? Just a symlink somewhere in /etc/systemd ?
[12:05] <Habbie> Peanut, i wouldn't know, sorry
[12:06] <Habbie> Peanut, everything i told you i know because my coworker did wireless setup via gadget last week
[12:06] <Habbie> Peanut, haven't done it myself
[12:06] <Peanut> Still very helpful to know it can be done.
[12:07] <Habbie> :)
[12:07] <Peanut> Also, guess what I got in the mail in pi-day ;-)
[12:07] <Habbie> your zero w?
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[12:08] <Peanut> And a noobs card, and a servo-controller - this is going to be my remote controlled stewart platform.
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[12:26] <j4ckcom> Allo Sparky is better than raspberry pi?
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[12:59] <petn-randall> j4ckcom: "better" is a very vague term.
[12:59] <j4ckcom> ok thanks petn-randall
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[13:22] <Peanut> Habbie: I've got gadget working on my 0W, logged in now and setting up the wireless.
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[13:23] <Habbie> Peanut, great!
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[13:28] <Gadgetoid_Pim> shiftplusone, what's the right way to go about trying to upstream this thorn in my side? https://github.com/robopeak/rpusbdisp
[13:28] <brainzap> using a pi to collect data of a single temperature sensor. extravagant!
[13:29] <Peanut> Extravagant, but quite convenient. I spent Thursday and Friday 'baking' a Raspberry Pi in our climate chamber.
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[13:31] <brainzap> what does it do Peanut?
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[13:32] <Peanut> brainzap: We've built a little HAT that you can slide an SFP (fiber optic module) in. The RPi speaks I2C to it to read out/program it, and read out the SFP temperature as we run it through the climate chamber.
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[13:32] <Peanut> We'll put the design in Github soon.
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[13:32] <brainzap> how precise are your readings?
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[13:34] <gordonDrogon> I think ZeroW's are just too convenient now - I will put one on each of my ovens soon - already have an A+ on one oven already.
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[13:34] <gordonDrogon> (baking ovens, not environment test ovens! :)
[13:34] <Peanut> Resolution is about 1/3rd of a degree on the SFPs we have. The HAT also has a 18B20 1-wire sensor, which is has a higher resolution. Accuracy is harder to say, as the laser itself heats up the fiber optic module. Just as the Raspbery Pi heats up the HAT. 18B20 is about 4 degrees C above ambient, the SFP laser is about 12 degrees C over that, over a range of 0°C to 50C.
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[13:35] <gordonDrogon> heh - 18B20's are only good to 0.5�C. They read a lot more bits, but that's the quoted accuracy.
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[13:36] <Peanut> gordonDrogon: I know, that's why I made the distinction between the two.
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[13:38] <gordonDrogon> I'm trying to make sense of the chip on the Rainbow HAT right now too - it's heted by the Pi and the digits - it's somewhat of a guess...
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[13:41] <tsglove> Good morning all =)
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[13:42] <ShanShen> Morning, tsglove
[13:42] <tsglove> o/ ShanShen !
[13:42] <tsglove> Was about to order one of the new rpi zero w
[13:42] <tsglove> nifty things
[13:43] <Peanut> tsglove: Indeed, I got one in the mail for Pi Day today!
[13:44] <ShanShen> Enter that PiDay contest, tsglove
[13:44] <ShanShen> https://www.zipcar.com/piday
[13:44] <tsglove> Nice! What are you going ot sue it for?
[13:44] <tsglove> ShanShen, on my way!
[13:44] <ShanShen> :D
[13:44] <Peanut> tsglove: I have an i2c servo controller on top, will use it to control servos for a stewart platform.
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[13:44] <brainzap> I plan to use a Raspberry PI Zero W for IoT
[13:45] <tsglove> Peanut, stewart platform! Have always wanted to build a small one of those... just because!
[13:45] <tsglove> brainzap, what will you contol/sense?
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[13:45] <Peanut> I find a lot of hints on how to configure the Pi zero network for WPA - but we have an open network here, how do I tell it to connect to that (from the CLI) ?
[13:46] <brainzap> I had one simple temperature sensor project planned for the ESP32, but now that W looks fine too
[13:46] <tsglove> Peanut, I think adafruit´s howto will help... fetching the link...
[13:46] <tsglove> Peanut, https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruits-raspberry-pi-lesson-3-network-setup/setting-up-wifi-with-occidentalis
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[13:48] <Peanut> Thanks - not sure what occidentalis is, but this tutorial is also about wpa. I have the feeling that I don't need wpa-supplicant if my network is not WPA protected, but I might be wrong there.
[13:50] <Sonny_Jim> No, you don't
[13:50] <Sonny_Jim> But in any case, why don't you secure your network properly?
[13:51] <Peanut> This is a company wide open network - we're in the middle of nowhere, no wardrivers to worry about.
[13:51] <tsglove> Proceed ahead I say. First make it work, then make it right.
[13:52] <Peanut> Also, it is fairly limited what you can do on this network, but you can browse etc.
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[14:03] <Peanut> yay, got it to work now, running an apt-get update over wireless, while logged in over USB ether gadget.
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[14:34] <shiftplusone> Gadgetoid_Pim: upstream upstream or upstream downstream?
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[14:36] <ali1234> its nothing to do with raspberry pi, it should go upstream upstream i guess
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[14:36] <ali1234> but the driver looks crazy
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[14:38] <Gadgetoid_Pim> shiftplusone, I don't even know what that meeeaaaannnnnssss :D
[14:38] <ali1234> its a kernel driver right?
[14:38] <ali1234> upstream upstream means linus tree
[14:38] <Gadgetoid_Pim> ali1234, yeah the driver is total unmaintained crud but we still seem to be shifting the products
[14:38] <ali1234> upstream downstream means raspbian i guess
[14:39] <Gadgetoid_Pim> I'm manually rolling modules for each new Raspbian Kernel at the moment
[14:39] <ali1234> are you sure there isn't already a driver that would work with it?
[14:39] <shiftplusone> Gadgetoid_Pim: you can try to get it into the raspberry pi kernel (unlikely) or get it into the upstream kernel.org kernel (even less likely). If you want to try to get it into our kernel, I guess you'd start with opening an issue or a PR on our linux repo.
[14:39] <ali1234> what chipset does it use?
[14:39] <Gadgetoid_Pim> shiftplusone, yeah I figured it would be likely since it's a) An awful mess, an d b) Not my code
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[14:41] <Gadgetoid_Pim> ali1234, as far as I can tell it's custom firmware running on an ARM Cortex M3 (STM32)
[14:41] <ali1234> ugh
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[14:41] <ali1234> make a DKMS package
[14:41] <Gadgetoid_Pim> Yeah even worse; RoboPeak ship a pre-built OS image to use with it =/
[14:41] <ali1234> that's your best bet
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[14:42] <gordonDrogon> Gadgetoid_Pim, are you selling these now?
[14:42] <Gadgetoid_Pim> Oh and the Pi image is up to date as of 2015-11-21 :D
[14:43] <Gadgetoid_Pim> gordonDrogon, we've been selling them for a while, they're pretty nice when they're up and running, but a pain in my behind :D
[14:43] <gordonDrogon> I see these as having the same issues as the SPI based mini displays - ie. tied to a kernel, etc.
[14:43] <Gadgetoid_Pim> Might ask if they're still *a thing*
[14:43] <Gadgetoid_Pim> This madness is my current solution: https://github.com/pimoroni/rp_usbdisplay
[14:44] <Gadgetoid_Pim> A single install script to setup and test the display on a Pi
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[14:44] <Gadgetoid_Pim> With precompiled kernel modules back to 4.1.6
[14:44] <ali1234> how do i update after running one of your install.sh?
[14:44] <gordonDrogon> it's a shame there isn't a display that size that takes HDMI - for the price.
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[14:44] <gordonDrogon> then it's a bit too easy.
[14:45] <ali1234> what size is it? you can get 5" HDMI
[14:45] <Gadgetoid_Pim> ali1234, it just manually drops the module into the modules dir and runs depmod, ha! updating the kernel would *poof* gone the heck out of it :D
[14:45] <ali1234> i mean in general
[14:45] <ali1234> like scrollhat, how do i update?
[14:45] <Gadgetoid_Pim> I've been watching this one for a while: http://www.thing-printer.com/product/manga-screen/
[14:45] <ali1234> when you release fixes
[14:46] <Gadgetoid_Pim> Update what ali1234? I believe running the installer again will call update on the relevant libraries, if it even pulls in via pip, and also bring down the latest GitHub examples
[14:46] <Gadgetoid_Pim> But any packages installed for our products from apt will just be updated as normal with "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[14:46] <ali1234> update whatever install.sh installed
[14:46] <ali1234> can you just make a repository or something?
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[14:48] <ali1234> i'm talking about https://get.pimoroni.com/scrollphathd
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[14:48] <ali1234> for example
[14:48] <ali1234> why does it have hardcoded package names: SMBUS2="python-smbus_3.1.1+svn-2_armhf.deb"
[14:48] <ali1234> why is it checking for macos?
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[15:01] <gordonDrogon> I have a schollPhat HD thingy now.
[15:01] <gordonDrogon> might take me a day or 2 more to finish my C driver for it.
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[15:06] <brainzap> I have so many kindles, someone should make an adapter for its display
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[15:09] <Peanut> brainzap: epaper? That'd be awesome.
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[15:12] <leftyfb> https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/kindleberry-pi-the-second/
[15:12] <leftyfb> first result on google
[15:12] <leftyfb> from 4 years ago
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[15:17] <SpeedEvil> e-ink are a word I can;'t say on this channel
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[15:17] <SpeedEvil> You can in principle make really interesting displays with just a PCB, a sheet of conductive plastic and spray adhesive
[15:18] <SpeedEvil> and the e-ink film, but they won't sell the bare film
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[15:18] <SpeedEvil> e-ink on the pi is less compellin in many use-cases due to the terrible power consumption in idle
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[15:25] <gordonDrogon> relatively speaking..
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[15:37] <[Saint]> Hmmmmm.
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[15:38] <[Saint]> For some reason CMA triggers a kernel panic when running the PIXEL desktop.
[15:38] <[Saint]> Perhaps I need to increase the initial pool.
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[15:39] <[Saint]> I really wish RPF would make CMA official and actually manage it with the upstream fixes.
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[15:54] <funkster> anyone have experience using 10" or higher touchscreen on rpi? looking for one large then the 7" foundation
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[15:56] <[Saint]> funkster: I have one of these:
[15:56] <[Saint]> https://www.adafruit.com/product/1287
[15:57] <[Saint]> Well, several actually - though I only have two here, the rest are with client boxes.
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[15:57] <[Saint]> Perhaps that's more expensive then you're looking for? Or you want something more "complete"?
[15:58] <[Saint]> That one is quite bare and you need to provide your own casing for it if desired.
[15:59] <funkster> [Saint]: yah i saw those last week, got sad it was old out, maybe i can find from a different supplier!
[15:59] <[Saint]> Quite probably.
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[15:59] <avu> doesn't seem to be a touchscreen though?
[15:59] <funkster> [Saint]: my device will display live video (camera), would you say its comparable quality to a standard tablet?
[16:00] <funkster> avu: damn, you are right. its not.
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[16:00] <Technomancer> hot damn, thats an expensive display
[16:00] <[Saint]> Technomancer: it's IPS
[16:01] <Technomancer> I paid nearly that for my windows 10 tablet wit hte same screen size and resolution
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[16:01] <[Saint]> Yeah, but that's mor because no one in their right mind wants them and they're selling at bargain basement prices. ;)
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[16:01] <funkster> maybe i can find a usb touch screen overlay compatible with rpi.
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[16:02] <[Saint]> just google "HSD101PWW1" if you want the same panel from a different supplier.
[16:02] <Technomancer> funkster fwiw, you can find those in both usb and as bare resistive type panels.
[16:02] <Technomancer> the touch overlay, that is
[16:03] <funkster> Technomancer: throw some names at me i can google? i guess i'd just have to find correct size to make display.
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[16:03] <[Saint]> Not necessarily.
[16:03] <[Saint]> You can go larger and just configure deadzones.
[16:03] <Technomancer> none of them have names that I'm aware of, my good sir.
[16:04] <[Saint]> It doesn't need to match /exactly/.
[16:04] <Technomancer> but they do come with a lovely made in china sticker
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[16:04] <funkster> ok, no prob. just google resistive touchscreen overlay, yah?
[16:04] <Technomancer> what about the touch panel/display from an iPad?
[16:04] <Technomancer> I've seen kits for those
[16:05] <Technomancer> ah, but that's displayport
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[18:15] <DrJ> happy pi day everyone
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[18:16] <shiftplusone> Happy 14/03 >.>
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[18:20] <pwillard> Happy 3/4 to you
[18:20] <pwillard> 3/14, rather
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[18:22] * IT_Sean rolls his eyes
[18:22] <IT_Sean> Is it Pi day again already?
[18:22] <JK-47> i have a big chocolate pie waitin for me
[18:23] <IT_Sean> I'd prefer a chocolate Pi.
[18:23] <mfa298> I think only for those places that put their date orders in a way that doesn't make sense
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[18:27] <shauno> 3-14 makes perfect sense. 2017-03-14 is perfectly iso8601-y
[18:28] <shauno> (a little tenuous, but easier than adopting a 13th month so that we can have a pi day too)
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[18:48] <NineChickens> o/
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[19:11] <balor> On a Pi3, when a USB wificard is inserted is the onboard nic always wlan1?
[19:12] <balor> I can't seem to get a persistent name
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[19:19] <lopta> Happy Pi-day for the Americans.
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[19:24] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[19:25] <ShapeShifter499> Is there a place I can get a raspberry pi zero today somewhere near Sacramento, CA?
[19:25] <ShapeShifter499> I was looking at fry's but they only carry the pi 3 it seems
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[19:26] <gordonDrogon> get a Pi3, develop/test, then move to a Zero when you can get one?
[19:27] * lopta is saving up for an A+
[19:28] <ShapeShifter499> I don't want to plunk down for a pi 3
[19:28] <ShapeShifter499> lol
[19:28] <ShapeShifter499> I wish I could trade in the two pi zeros I have for one pi zero w
[19:28] <ShorTie> newegg got the rpi3 on sale for like 32 bucks
[19:29] <RoBo_V> i need big copper heatsink for pi, where to get one ?
[19:29] <ShapeShifter499> the wireless addons are nice
[19:29] <JK-47> $35 break the bank?
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[19:29] <ShapeShifter499> JK-47: right now yes
[19:29] <ShorTie> free shipping too...
[19:29] <JK-47> sell blood
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[19:31] <lopta> JK-47: I need shoes too and some dental work.
[19:31] <lopta> JK-47: ...and my car needs some attention.
[19:31] <balor> The internet suggests that there is no way to get persistent network card names on the rpi. Is this correct? net.ifnames=1 doesn't work and writing udev rules requires knowing the MAC address ahead of time.
[19:31] <ShapeShifter499> JK-47: um I dunno if I want to go to that extreme
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[19:31] <lopta> balor: What are network card names?
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[19:32] <balor> lopta, wlan0, wlan1 etc....
[19:32] <lopta> Oh, probably a Linux thing then.
[19:32] <balor> lopta, the newer mechanism on Fedora is to use the physical bus name á la BSD. Which are persistent
[19:32] <ShapeShifter499> I could just wait till next month
[19:32] <JK-47> lopta- jobs… https://detroit.craigslist.org/search/jjj
[19:33] <lopta> JK-47: I can't afford to move to detroit.
[19:33] <JK-47> Well then https://www.careerbuilder.com/jobs-in-new-baltimore,mi lol
[19:33] <ShapeShifter499> I can't believe with all the computer related events and companies in my area there isn't a place that sells PI zeros
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[19:33] <JK-47> So many excuses.
[19:34] <lopta> JK-47: I can't afford to move to Michigan ;-)
[19:34] <JK-47> where ever you are
[19:34] * lopta grins
[19:34] <lopta> Seriously though, I saw a book yesterday that I want to buy.
[19:34] <lopta> brb
[19:35] <JK-47> And im over here on the phone with a client while browsing dream vacations for my 40th. work hard. play hard.
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[19:35] <lopta> My 40th has been and gone.
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[19:36] <leftyfb> balor: look up udev persistent rules
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[19:36] <JK-47> my GF wont go for my Galapagos islands idea though.
[19:36] <lopta> That would be neat.
[19:36] <leftyfb> ShapeShifter499: there's only a small number of vendors allowed to sell them
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[19:36] <balor> leftyfb, I have. But AFAIK you need to know the MAC address to name ahead of time.
[19:36] <Stromeko> Does anybody know how to get more than one pps-gpio configured?
[19:36] <ShapeShifter499> leftyfb: really?
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[19:36] <leftyfb> balor: ok, get that from your pi
[19:37] <leftyfb> balor: ifconfig
[19:37] <leftyfb> ShapeShifter499: really. In the U.S., Microcenter is the only brick and mortar allowed to sell pi zero's
[19:37] <ShapeShifter499> what about buying second hand or in bulk?
[19:37] <JK-47> Boo down with brick and mortar electronics stores
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[19:38] <leftyfb> ShapeShifter499: you'll pay more. Usually 50% or more
[19:38] <lopta> I'm surprised there are any left.
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[19:38] <leftyfb> lopta: uh. Why would you say such a thing?
[19:38] <lopta> leftyfb: Circuit City, Radio Shack etc.
[19:38] <leftyfb> lopta: please tell me you're joking
[19:38] <ShapeShifter499> There were some nice electronic/hobbyist stores in my area that recently shut down
[19:38] <lopta> leftyfb: ...Amazon's killing them off.
[19:39] <ShapeShifter499> all local
[19:39] <leftyfb> not likely
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[19:39] <doomlord> how far can you get with neural nets on the RPi GPU
[19:39] <ShapeShifter499> There are only two local one's I can think of that sell all sorts of bits and ends
[19:39] <ShapeShifter499> two left
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[19:40] <ShapeShifter499> there are probably more but that's all I can think of
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[19:40] <JK-47> We have some maker spaces but only 1 microcenter out of the city. Which I hate that place. Though my GFs sister works at one.
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[19:41] <JK-47> 2 tech degrees, and shes working retail… lulz
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[19:41] <ShapeShifter499> oh the maker spaces, those are on the increase in my area
[19:41] <leftyfb> if I can walk into the store and buy a pi zero and some led's and things, that's a good thing.
[19:41] <ShapeShifter499> Hacker Lab, one downtown and they expanded to the edge of the county
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[19:42] <lopta> I should google for a Microcentre
[19:42] <ShapeShifter499> Plus free 3d printing at one of the library locations
[19:43] <ShapeShifter499> I would have printed some things but that location is closed temp for a remodel till april-ish
[19:44] <leftyfb> i'm in a makerspace at the moment :)
[19:45] <lopta> Oh nice: there's one within driving range!
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[20:34] <InventorTechie> Has anyone heard of the Intel Galileo boards being discontinued? Figured the Pi community might be on top of that type of news.
[20:35] <shauno> I've heard precisely nothing about the galileo since it was announced :/
[20:36] <lopta> InventorTechie: Oh I do hope so.
[20:36] <InventorTechie> LMAO ;-0
[20:37] <lopta> It has a Quark on it, so you need a special Linux kernel that's compiled to work around a bug in the silicon.
[20:37] <lopta> ...it's a mess, frankly.
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[20:38] <InventorTechie> I have to admit... I've been familiar w/ the Raspberry Pi, or at least of it's existence, but it wasn't until this weekend I researched Python for the first time... Now I see what all of the fuss is about. I'm excited. Just started a Python course last night. I've worked on the Nordic nRF52 chips in a few commercial projects I designed over the last 18
[20:38] <InventorTechie> months, but, I really like the idea of sticking w/ a Linux based IoT device. Alot more freedom, for not much more.
[20:39] <lopta> I have developed some tolerance for Python.
[20:39] <lopta> I took a couple of on-line classes in it.
[20:39] <InventorTechie> Current plan, is to create a prototype first, then we will we layout a board, similar to the Pi Zero, but we will add on Ethernet + PoE + Wifi, into a simple solution. Will plan to make that available to the community once I get there.
[20:39] <lopta> I don't hate it, so that's positive.
[20:40] <lopta> InventorTechie: Have you considered using the Compute Module
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[20:40] <lopta> ...plugged into a custom motherboard?
[20:40] <InventorTechie> Still looking into the best method, my question I am researching now, is to find out if anything w/ that spec already exists. No sense in reinventing the wheel.
[20:40] <InventorTechie> lopta - we would design our own PCB w/ those features, but it would be modeled after the Pi Zero.
[20:41] <InventorTechie> Compute module, I wouldn't want to use, because of the board connection it uses. That would make it a 2 piece PCB.
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[20:41] <lopta> InventorTechie: If you have the skills, equipment and time, that's great.
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[20:41] <InventorTechie> Yes. My team does.
[20:42] <InventorTechie> Surprised Ada hasn't made one like that yet though. Anyway... the intention would be to eventually get it into a commercial enviro. We aren't really looking to make money off of the product, but, more or less the service that we would build to connect into it. So.. there's that.
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[20:43] <bedah> just found the rpi imgur channel.. http://imgur.com/t/raspberry%20pi
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[20:45] <lopta> InventorTechie: What would you be putting into it that isn't in the Pi Zero?
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[20:46] <InventorTechie> @lopta Wifi, Ethernet + PoE
[20:46] <lopta> WiFi is in the Pi Zero W. Ethernet and PoE aren't.
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[20:55] <InventorTechie> Ah, that's definitely helpful. Was just starting to look at the zero board, didn't know there was a "w" variant. ;-)
[20:56] <InventorTechie> We would prob jump from Pi 3 M-B, straight to a custom board anyhow. Will likely get the Zero-W to play around w/ tho. Pretty cool ;-)
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[20:59] <lopta> InventorTechie: It's new.
[20:59] <lopta> What's a 3 M-B?
[20:59] <lopta> ...a 3B?
[20:59] <InventorTechie> Sorry, was abbreviating. Raspberry Pi 3 - Model B ;-)
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[21:00] <InventorTechie> They should of just called it the Pi 4, lol
[21:00] <lopta> There are sound reasons not to.
[21:00] <shauno> it's not the 4, it's the 3
[21:00] <lopta> ...because the "B" there doesn't signify a revision.
[21:00] <InventorTechie> Speaking of 4... is there any news on what that might be?
[21:00] <lopta> InventorTechie: Yes.
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[21:01] <lopta> InventorTechie: It might be awesome. ;-)
[21:01] <bub_> ;-)
[21:01] <InventorTechie> http://www.alphr.com/raspberry-pi/1005103/raspberry-pi-4-rumours-specs-and-release-date (speculates 2019)
[21:02] <shauno> "model B" is the "big board pi", with a usb hub and ethernet. compared to the model A which has neither. so the pi3b is just the third (major) version of the model B
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[21:02] <InventorTechie> ah, interesting.
[21:03] <shauno> it'd have been easier to keep track of if they'd made versions 2 & 3 of the model A too :)
[21:03] <InventorTechie> I was just under assumption that B was the newer/better, which I guess could be depending on the need.
[21:03] <InventorTechie> yaaa
[21:03] <InventorTechie> Alternatively... just a variant name for the form factor. Kinda like w/ the Zero...
[21:03] <Broly> broadcom still has a bit more work to do before their 4/5xxx SoC meets the Broly Standard. they're close though. kudos to them for providing linker files to the linux independent layer so that people can try and compile with their own cross. as you'd expect, the system calls for their own malloc commands are not in glibc so hopefully they decide to include the necessary functions
[21:03] <Broly> all in all, excited though.
[21:04] <Broly> took them a while. almost two years.
[21:04] <InventorTechie> Wow.
[21:04] <Broly> it's a challenge
[21:04] <InventorTechie> Dare I ask... what is Broly?
[21:04] <Broly> it's also a softfloat library file which i guess is somewhat of an issue, but i mean it's better than the state it was in two years ago
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[21:05] <Broly> and such
[21:05] <shauno> a lot of the pi versioning is hampered by the fact they didn't plan for any of this, the popularity took them by surprise. so some of the naming hasn't held up to hindsight
[21:05] <Broly> well they're getting enough of a slice of the pi
[21:05] <Broly> PIE
[21:05] <Broly> pun not intended but very welcome
[21:05] <InventorTechie> shauno - I can relate to the naming issue. Always hard to see into the future.
[21:05] <Broly> shit's still softfloat
[21:05] <bedah> happy pi day, 3.14 :D
[21:06] <Broly> oh shit it is eh lol
[21:06] <InventorTechie> oh snap... it is..
[21:06] <Broly> hahahahha
[21:06] <InventorTechie> lmao
[21:06] <lopta> Only in America, though. ;-)
[21:06] <waveform> come on guys, keep the language tame please
[21:06] <InventorTechie> Only 9PM in Europe.
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[21:07] <bedah> in europa, end of april: 31.4.?
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[21:07] <lopta> bedah: That would work, sort of.
[21:08] <freechips> hey yall anybody having kernel issues such as this?
[21:08] <freechips> https://gist.github.com/enricostano/e53a0639d5b7a920b7692c59ee329df4
[21:08] <freechips> up to 3 people @ arclhinux-arm with this issue!
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[21:12] <InventorTechie> freechips is that from rasbian ?
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[21:13] <waveform> no, arch - looks like something's failing to include vaguely important kernel modules (like usbhid) in the initramdisk
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[21:14] <InventorTechie> Just curious - what board are you running it on?
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[21:15] <freechips> InventorTechie: no that is from archlinux-arm
[21:15] <freechips> InventorTechie: pi3b
[21:15] <freechips> armv7
[21:19] <InventorTechie> freechips - might have some tips there https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=138938
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[21:21] <InventorTechie> Similar issues on reddit, but unrelated to the Pi 3 https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/5cpf0t/how_do_i_solve_the_error_no_modules_were_added_to/
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[21:22] <InventorTechie> Outside of that, try the arch channel.
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[21:26] <freechips> ok thanks
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[22:04] <Phischi> aloha
[22:05] <plum> hmmmm
[22:05] <plum> i regenerated my SSH keys and added a new passphrase, but i seem to be prompted for this every time i try to SSH from my pi client
[22:06] <plum> i tried ssh-add -K <private key> but after a reboot i'm prompted again
[22:06] <H__> that's the whole idea of the agent
[22:07] <Phischi> regarding ssh keys... am I right that I should generate new ones if I use a stock Raspbian image?
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[22:07] <plum> i think the stock Raspbian image does not come with them
[22:07] <H__> you mean host keys of user keys ?
[22:07] <plum> user keys, at least
[22:08] <H__> pi does not come with user keys
[22:08] <plum> and my keys used to not prompt for password... maybe i didn't set it originally though?
[22:08] <plum> no i think it has a password nvm
[22:08] <Phischi> not?
[22:08] <plum> but it didn't prompt for the password while already logged in to the pi
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[22:08] <plum> so if you tried accessing the keys from a different computer, they still required password
[22:08] <Phischi> though what certificate does it show me while connecting via SSH? :p
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[22:16] <Phischi> btw. maybe somebody could tell me (again?) how to properly run 2 hostapd-configs on one Raspberry Pi 3?
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[22:26] <lopta> Phischi: Do you ask this question every day?
[22:27] <Phischi> until I get it working :P
[22:27] <BurtyB> what exactly are you trying to get working?
[22:28] <redrabbit> 2 hostapd-configs
[22:28] <redrabbit> like AP from 1 pi
[22:28] <redrabbit> 2 AP
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[22:28] <BurtyB> redrabbit = Phischi ?
[22:29] <Phischi> BurtyB: sorry?
[22:29] <redrabbit> BurtyB: ?
[22:29] <Phischi> ah
[22:29] <Phischi> overread that one sentence lol
[22:29] <BurtyB> there are lots of different config types and obv. different hardware options
[22:30] <Phischi> BurtyB: Pi 3B, 1AP on the internal Wifi, one on the external one
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[22:30] <Phischi> the USB-adapter is: 0bda:8172 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8191SU 802.11n WLAN Adapter
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[22:31] <redrabbit> does it support AP mode
[22:31] <redrabbit> master mode
[22:31] <Broly> MASTER
[22:31] <Phischi> hm, how do I check?
[22:31] <redrabbit> use it as an ap
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[22:32] <BurtyB> "iw list" should tell you towards the bottom
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[22:33] <Phischi> iw list wlan0?
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[22:35] <Phischi> iw list shows ALOT :)
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[22:41] <Phischi> BurtyB: http://pastebin.com/n9WVuaPk
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[22:41] <Phischi> it only shows info of 1 device?
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[22:45] <akk> Anyone using motioneyeos with the RPi?
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[22:45] <akk> I have it running, but it doesn't seem to have any of the preferences I see in the documentation
[22:46] <akk> like how to get it to save still images when things change.
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[22:50] <BurtyB> Phischi, it should show both, the one listed looks like the Pi3 built in wifi
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[22:58] <Phischi> BurtyB: odd
[22:58] <Phischi> BurtyB: means it's not up?
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[23:00] <Phischi> BurtyB: http://pastebin.com/XYermTWz
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[23:01] <S0bait> Hello
[23:01] <S0bait> Is there a good way to determine how often i should move forward so that the frame that is captured within the camera is not repeated?
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[23:05] <plum> hmmmm looks like it's still not working after reboot...
[23:05] <S0bait> Whats the problem? I just joined
[23:05] <plum> anyone know how to get ssh-agent to auto-load across reboots?
[23:05] <S0bait> plum: For this I use an application and trigger it.
[23:05] <plum> i just changed my ssh keys and ssh-agent now requests a passphrase
[23:06] <plum> S0bait: what application?
[23:06] <S0bait> You will be asked for passwords upon reboot/starting a first shell session
[23:06] <S0bait> regardless of what you endup using. Unless you lessen the security and force it not it.
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[23:06] <plum> it's weird, it didn't ask me for passwords last time
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[23:07] <plum> but if i try to open the id_rsa from like putty or something, it needed a password for me last time i generated keys. this time it's still locked the same but i can't have it persist unlocked across reboots
[23:07] <S0bait> I use keychain and have added eval `keychain --eval id_rsa` in my bashrc
[23:07] <plum> i may need to look into keychain too, thank you
[23:08] <plum> it's just weird because this worked fine without it last time...
[23:08] <S0bait> No worries. Sec I will send you a link that teaches how to lessen the security (i.e: make it more vulnerable) but have it not ask.
[23:08] <plum> though this time my passphrase is different from my user's password, would that have anything to do with it?
[23:09] <S0bait> Also it might not have asked for password before because the older key was created using -N command.
[23:09] * plum googles the -N command
[23:09] <plum> hahaha
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[23:10] <S0bait> plum: This will walk through how to disable authentication. https://lani78.com/2008/08/08/generate-a-ssh-key-and-disable-password-authentication-on-ubuntu-server/ For most projects this is definately OK and you do not have to worry about it.
[23:10] <plum> wait that sets the new passphrase though
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[23:11] <plum> oh, the server is fine
[23:12] <plum> i've set up key entry and the password is disabled for security
[23:12] <funkster> i need to create a program to load up window of webcam live stream and record, need it customize the look as well. what should i write this in?
[23:12] <S0bait> funkster: What yuo are good at.. Python maybe
[23:12] <plum> but on the client, after regenerating keys, it asks me for the passphrase every time i want to SSH
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[23:13] <funkster> S0bait: i know a bit of python, but only shell type scripts i've written. no GUI type apps.
[23:13] <S0bait> plum: What is the "guest" os?
[23:13] <plum> S0bait: Raspbian, i'm connecting from one pi to another
[23:13] <S0bait> funkster: In my project we have a GUI done in a Node application and the backend in Python.
[23:13] <S0bait> plum: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/36540/why-am-i-still-getting-a-password-prompt-with-ssh-with-public-key-authentication
[23:13] <funkster> so your frontend is node/js desktop app?
[23:13] <plum> i'll check that link, thank you S0bait
[23:14] <S0bait> Likely need to chmod your ssh folder
[23:14] <S0bait> funkster: Yea
[23:14] <funkster> interesting..
[23:14] <plum> been clicking every google result and it seems like they're all asking how to set up passwordless from the server, not client
[23:15] <nitpe> hey
[23:15] <funkster> plum: it asks for passphrase or password? if it asks for passphrase, you created keys with a passphrase.
[23:15] <nitpe> quick question, I got my pi3
[23:15] <nitpe> it came with 3 heat-sinks
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[23:16] <nitpe> the third chip on the bottom
[23:16] <funkster> no heatsink is "needed" on a pi3.
[23:16] <plum> funkster: i did create the keys with a passphrase, it's asking for that
[23:16] <nitpe> is it really necessary to have a heatsink ?
[23:16] <plum> my last keys had a passphrase too but it didn't prompt me to use it
[23:16] <funkster> plum: sorry, i came late to chat, whats your issue?
[23:17] <nitpe> funkster, I saw some benchmarks where I would improve the performance while running heavy tasks
[23:17] <nitpe> *it
[23:17] <funkster> the whole idea of keys with passphrase is to type in passphrase, no?
[23:17] <plum> no worries, i'm a bit stumped because ever since regenerating my keys with a passphrase, i'm prompted for them every ssh connection attempt
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[23:18] <humbot> some desktop sessions will remember the passphrase
[23:18] <plum> my last ones didn't prompt me for my passphrase though, but were still protected if one tried to open the private key from putty or similar on another computer
[23:18] <humbot> did you use ssh-add ?
[23:18] <plum> i did, but it doesn't persist on reboots :(
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[23:19] <humbot> so your session doesn't have ssh-agent or whatever is necessary for that
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[23:19] <plum> would that change with new key regeneration though?
[23:19] <plum> i may have set up something wrong this time
[23:20] <S0bait> Reboot the source and see if there is an ssh-agent running upon boot.
[23:20] <plum> will try, brb
[23:20] <plum> and thank you guys by the way :)
[23:20] <S0bait> np
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[23:23] <plum> looks like ssh-agent shows an active agent after reboot
[23:24] <plum> but i still get an Enter passphrase for key prompt
[23:24] <plum> :(
[23:24] <humbot> what does ssh-add -l say ?
[23:25] <plum> Could not open a connection to your authentication agent.
[23:25] <plum> hmmmm that's different from what my ssh-agent command showed
[23:25] <plum> probably a stronger indicator as to the ssh-agent's status :P
[23:26] <humbot> odd, it only said that for me if ssh-agent wasn't running
[23:27] <humbot> have you asked in a channel dedicated to your distro or desktop manager
[23:27] <plum> i'll check out raspbian and see if they have any suggestions
[23:27] <humbot> oh its pixel ? no-one seems to know about that :P
[23:29] <plum> oh that's it i think
[23:29] <plum> yeah
[23:29] <plum> i'm running this pi headless though
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[23:51] <danielmetlitski> hello
[23:52] <danielmetlitski> Does anyone know aprox. how long a raspberry pi zero w would last on a AA battery?
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[23:53] <cromulent> I think that would also depend on what it's doing
[23:53] <cromulent> is it idle? under load?
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[23:54] <JK-47> use a few 18650 3000mah. or a good lipo
[23:54] <Phischi> danielmetlitski: what AA battery?
[23:54] <danielmetlitski> one from walmart Phischi
[23:54] <Phischi> danielmetlitski: you get ~800-3000mAh out of them
[23:54] <Phischi> lol
[23:55] <Phischi> danielmetlitski: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AA_battery
[23:55] <Phischi> danielmetlitski: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AA_battery#Comparison
[23:56] <Phischi> even the current you draw has it's influence of the max capacity
[23:57] <Phischi> zink-cabron and alkaline are the ones mostly sold
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[23:57] <akk> My only data point: I have a 10Ah battery, and an original RPi with camera and an IR light source can't last all night on it.
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[23:58] <akk> I know a zero is more efficient but AAs also have a much smaller capacity.
[23:58] <JK-47> the IR light uses more than a 0w probably
[23:58] <Phischi> danielmetlitski: https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blogs/jeff-geerling/raspberry-pi-zero-power
[23:58] <Phischi> 1800mAh/80mA
[23:59] <Phischi> 1800mA/150 or 200mA to be sure it can do some stuff
[23:59] <Phischi> so, a somewhat save guess for quality-alkaline-batteries would be 9 hours

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