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IRC Log for 2017-03-19

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[0:11] <jancoow1> ali1234: I think i'm still doing something wrong. The nic of the pi doesn't come online
[0:12] <jancoow1> so only enabling nfs isn't going to work i guess
[0:12] <phil42> ali1234, i will sell your zerostems for you
[0:13] <ali1234> you need to compile all drivers into the kernel, not as modules
[0:13] <ali1234> and you need to provide network config on the command line
[0:13] <jancoow1> ali1234: I did provide (a working with the raspbian kernel) config on the command line
[0:13] <jancoow1> all drivers??
[0:14] <jancoow1> there are a lot drivers
[0:14] <ali1234> just the ones you need to access network
[0:14] <jancoow1> do you know which one?
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[0:16] <jancoow1> I guess the nic driver for the pi
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[0:28] <ali1234> phil42: how many do you want?
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[0:30] <phil42> ali1234, i don't know, i haven't even decided how i will sell them
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[0:31] <phil42> ali1234, what is your suggested retail price?
[0:32] <ali1234> $5
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[0:36] <phil42> ali1234, is my private message function working?
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[0:40] <JuPaname> hello
[0:40] <JuPaname> seek host for my rpi
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[0:43] <Phischi> ?
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[0:51] <_6e6f6f62> Hello. I was hoping to find a resource to help with debugging a new Zero W. I have found a lot of help for when your ACT led doesn't flicker for boot then go solid but not a lot beyond that. I get around 40 seconds of flicker, then solid but nothing on the monitor over hdmi. I am on a 5A 4 port power adapter with nothing else on it. Is my best option to start probing test points?
[0:52] <ShorTie> how are you "making" your sdcard ??
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[0:53] <_6e6f6f62> Tried a few different ways. Latest was rasbian with etcher after a format with SDFormatter
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[0:54] <_6e6f6f62> If the image was missing bits, I should be getting a "on-off" pattern to indicated what couldnt be found, right?
[0:54] <ShorTie> never heard of etcher, maybe win32diskimager ??
[0:54] <_6e6f6f62> I have given that a try too
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[0:54] <ShorTie> what image are you using ??
[0:55] <phil42> i am confident you tried dd
[0:55] <_6e6f6f62> Jessie March 2
[0:55] <_6e6f6f62> I can give dd a try in a vm
[0:56] <windsurf_> I should be able to connect the GPIO tx/rx pins two Raspberry Pis. I'm wondering what the simplest way is to hear messages on one of them coming from the first, some command line option maybe
[0:56] <ShorTie> from https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/ ??
[0:56] <_6e6f6f62> yeah
[0:56] <windsurf_> screen??
[0:56] <_6e6f6f62> I checked the sha
[0:56] <ShorTie> what kind of sdcard ??
[0:56] <_6e6f6f62> tried on two separate monitors
[0:57] <_6e6f6f62> sandisk 16gb in retail packaging
[0:57] <_6e6f6f62> both monitors were samsung of roughly the same build
[0:57] <ShorTie> hmmm, win32diskimager should write that image fine
[0:58] <ShorTie> hdmi monitors ??
[0:58] <_6e6f6f62> yes
[0:58] <ShorTie> you have them on 1st ??
[0:59] <_6e6f6f62> you mean the source select?
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[0:59] <ShorTie> source select ??
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[1:00] <_6e6f6f62> trying to clarify your question. You mean the monitor was turned on prior to the pi?
[1:00] <xar-> hello, new first time rpi owner, I dd'ed the raspbian image to the sd card, inserted, and now it's sitting at a command prompt--does this mean the OS is "installed" ?
[1:00] <ShorTie> Yes
[1:01] <_6e6f6f62> xstart for an x session
[1:01] <ShorTie> Yes xar-
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[1:01] <xar-> ...
[1:01] <xar-> seems to easy, I didn't do anything...
[1:02] <ShorTie> you download the light version ??
[1:02] <xar-> yes, rasbpian lite
[1:02] <_6e6f6f62> I went for the full
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[1:02] <xar-> I'm confused, who is talking to who
[1:02] <_6e6f6f62> I think that was directed at me
[1:03] <_6e6f6f62> xar you can start an x window session (the gui that will be more familiar) with xstart
[1:03] <xar-> _6e6f6f62: command not found
[1:04] <_6e6f6f62> sorry, it's late
[1:04] <_6e6f6f62> startx
[1:05] <xar-> command not found
[1:05] <_6e6f6f62> what disto are you running?
[1:05] <xar-> I'm using rasbpian jessite lite rpi.org
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[1:06] <xar-> is that why the command is missing?
[1:06] <Broly> she's jessie's pi-i-i
[1:06] <Broly> dodododododooo dooo
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[1:08] <_6e6f6f62> I'm new around here but I think lite might not have x windows (the gui bit)
[1:08] <xar-> ok I understand, thank you
[1:08] <_6e6f6f62> np
[1:08] <xar-> I can't use a unix pipe symbol "|" on the keyboard
[1:08] <xar-> is there a way to fix that?
[1:09] <xar-> nvm, I see some localization options under raspi-config, let me try that
[1:09] <xar-> it's a pretty standard keyboard, it's unusual it would misinterpret the character set...
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[1:11] <_6e6f6f62> any luck xar? http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/236/simple-keyboard-configuration
[1:12] <xar-> rebooting the unit, we'll see
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[1:15] <xar-> thank you for that link _6e6f6f62
[1:15] <_6e6f6f62> np
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[1:22] <_6e6f6f62> Can anyone verify that seeing the ACT light blink for ~30s and then it going solid indicates a successful boot even if hdmi doesnt seem to to be working?
[1:23] <phil42> that sounds about right to me
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[1:24] <phil42> someone had this problem here recently, he used the composite video output instead of hdmi. not sure he got hdmi working
[1:25] <_6e6f6f62> Ok. I will get out the iron :)
[1:25] <precarken> My first Raspberry Pi project... K'NEX roller coaster with LED's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6Pb5WgyIvQ
[1:26] <_6e6f6f62> Thanks a lot Phil. Good to know I am not alone. You all have a good one
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[1:28] <Broly> gawrsh this raspberry PAAH works so well
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[2:48] <MentatAddict> Any way to get an RPi zero to display web pages at a decent speed?
[2:49] <MentatAddict> Likely by not using chromium XD.
[2:49] <MentatAddict> hmm..
[2:49] <MentatAddict> ...
[2:50] * MentatAddict has no ideas.
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[2:51] <MentatAddict> I'll do more research and maybe try some light distro.
[2:53] <ball> MentatAddict: ...the speed of your microSDHC card makes a difference.
[2:53] <ball> (since your Web browser is likely to be swapping its guts out)
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[3:07] <windsurf_> anyone know why I can send data over serial? I've disabled the login shell over serial
[3:07] <windsurf_> I'm targeting /dev/ttyAMA0
[3:08] <windsurf_> just hangs when I do echo -e
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[3:10] <ball> What does "-e" signify there?
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[3:14] <Crom> what was that port util mc?
[3:15] <Crom> nc
[3:15] * ball doesn't know nc
[3:15] <ball> I use cu for the most part.
[3:15] <Crom> netcat!
[3:16] <akk> screen
[3:16] <ball> Ah. I use iperf for bandwidth testing.
[3:16] <Crom> netcat is pretty kewl... lets you run a program or script to interact with the port
[3:17] <Phischi> anyone here who wants to help me setup an AP?
[3:17] <ball> Phischi: Not me! ;-)
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[3:18] <Phischi> :P
[3:18] <sir_galahad_ad> ball then who?
[3:18] * ball shrugs
[3:18] <ball> Someone who knows Linux and WiFi on Linux, probably.
[3:19] <windsurf_> ball you can do "man echo" to see all the options
[3:19] <ball> windsurf_: I don't have a Linux box around.
[3:20] <windsurf_> you can do it in google too :)
[3:20] <ball> I don't have a Web browser around.
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[3:25] <ball> ...which is a shame because I like serial ports.
[3:27] <Broly> they're awesome for this router i'm trying to work on
[3:27] <Broly> using the ftdi rpi usb cable. has 3 shielded connectors
[3:27] <Broly> pricey but i love it
[3:28] <Broly> they call it "legacy" for a reason, dawg
[3:28] <Broly> but you know that ;)
[3:29] * Broly cues the south park episode where al gore tries to make 'serial' the hip replacement for 'serious' (in the "are you being serious?" context)
[3:29] <ball> I like that I can debug it with a simple analogue oscilloscope ;-)
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[3:31] <Broly> lol
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[3:32] <Broly> i haven't used one of those
[3:32] <Broly> i barely know how to use this voltage reader (multimeter?) lol
[3:32] <ball> Well, you can use a serial logic probe thing too but where's the fun in that? ;-)
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[3:53] <Broly> what's the serial logic probe
[3:53] <Broly> sec
[3:54] <Broly> wild
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[3:55] <sware> is there a command in raspbian to get the vendorid of the gpu and other info about the gpu?
[3:55] <ball> sware: Are you trying this on a Raspberry Pi?
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[3:57] <sware> yeah
[3:59] <ball> sware: I have read that the GPU in there is based on VideoCore, which is Broadcom-specific. Does it show up in the output from lshw?
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[4:00] <ball> (or, for that matter, in the output from dmesg?)
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[4:08] <dtype> sware: yeah, dmesg will at least give you the chipsets found and drivers loaded
[4:10] <sware> okay cool I'll try that
[4:10] <sware> yeah it's videocore
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[4:12] <sware> hmm shows the cma driver and shared memory driver but not much else
[4:13] <ball> sware: What are you hoping to find out?
[4:14] <ball> sware: Thinking about it, vendor and device ID might be specifically a PCI(e) thing.
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[4:14] <ball> ...well, that and USB
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[4:14] <ball> Not sure it applies to a GPU on the same die as an ARM core.
[4:15] <sware> looking for the gl capabilities
[4:15] <sware> got it through mesa-utils
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[4:16] <ball> Oh good.
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[4:20] <sware> yup thanks though
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[5:19] <sware> Is there a workaround for the black screen when using the experimental desktop opengl driver on the pi3?
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[5:20] <Broly> flush
[5:20] <Broly> lols
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[5:23] <sware> nevermind fixed it lol
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[5:24] <sware> actually looks like it just booted without it as backup. darn
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[6:51] <sware> anyone here know a fix for the black screen on pi3 when using the open gl driver on PIXEL update?
[6:52] <Lartza> THE black screen?
[6:52] <sware> yeah
[6:52] <sware> I tried commenting out the dt overlay line and it did nothing
[6:53] <Lartza> What black screen? What driver??
[6:53] <Lartza> Also why does a dtoverlay have anything to do with opengl
[6:53] <Broly> you should use raspi-config sware
[6:53] <sware> people have suggested it in every thread I've looked up as a solution
[6:53] <Broly> is that what you were doing?
[6:54] <Broly> i didn't have this problem
[6:54] <sware> yes I did sudo raspi-config and turned it on.
[6:54] <Broly> hm
[6:54] <sware> are you on pixel?
[6:54] <sware> samsung monitor
[6:54] <Broly> i was on the non pixel version
[6:54] <Lartza> oh the vc4 driver?
[6:55] <Broly> tvservice -p dawg
[6:55] <Broly> fuck witit
[6:55] <Broly> playwitit
[6:55] <Broly> u feel me
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[6:55] <sware> yeah apparently pixel broke it and there's a fix by commenting out something in config.txt but I haven't been able to get around black screen
[6:55] <Broly> you may need to set the mode manually
[6:55] <Broly> tvservice -p DAWG
[6:55] <Broly> FUCK WIT IT
[6:55] <Broly> PLAY WID IT
[6:55] <Lartza> I don't see how pixel could break anything
[6:56] <Lartza> All of pixel happens after xorg and your drivers start
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[6:56] <Lartza> Removing dtoverlay=vc4-kms-v3d is all you should need to do
[6:56] <sware> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=140865 PeterO's comment
[6:57] <Lartza> Yes?
[6:57] <sware> yes he says it breaks the opengl driver
[6:58] <Lartza> Uhh I don't think he's completely accurate but yes he does, so what?
[6:58] <Lartza> Just disable the driver and be happy
[6:58] <Lartza> ?
[6:58] <sware> why're you being confrontational while providing absolutely no insight into anything?
[6:59] <Broly> wow
[6:59] <Broly> didn't i say
[6:59] <Broly> tvservice -p
[7:00] <Broly> how many times
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[7:00] <sware> ?
[7:00] <Broly> sigh
[7:00] <Broly> nothing
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[7:01] <Lartza> sware, And the thread literally tells you to comment vc4-kms-v3d and install fbdev, so did you?
[7:02] <sware> yes
[7:02] <Lartza> And you STILL get a black screen? :S
[7:02] <sware> I literally already had fbdev install to the latest and literally commented out that line
[7:02] <sware> yes
[7:02] <Lartza> That shouldn't happen
[7:02] <sware> exactly
[7:02] <Lartza> So it's not "THE" black screen either and nothing should have broken anything
[7:02] <sware> what?
[7:03] <Lartza> It worked before you enabled vc4 with raspi-config?
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[7:03] <sware> enabling the open gl driver always makes it black screen
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[7:03] <Lartza> But you've disabled it if you've commented the dtoverlay
[7:03] <Lartza> And it should boot
[7:04] <sware> I am trying to use opengl with the pi. Not sure what else to say here. Enabling the driver gives black screen.
[7:05] <Lartza> That's not what I asked earlier though, it boots without the opengl driver then??
[7:05] <sware> if I go back and edit the config it defaults to turning the gl driver off and boots fine
[7:05] <Broly> there also may be a mode on your tv
[7:05] <Broly> depending upon the tv
[7:05] <Lartza> sware, Thank you
[7:05] <Broly> what's hte model
[7:05] <sware> pi 3 model b
[7:06] <Broly> are you connecting it to a TV?
[7:06] <sware> I have tried two monitors and a tv
[7:06] <Broly> all the same issue?
[7:06] <sware> yes
[7:06] <Broly> hm
[7:06] <Broly> i had no issue on mine when i had a 2b
[7:06] <Broly> that's interesting
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[7:07] <Broly> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=140865
[7:07] <Lartza> Ugh I can't find the raspbian cmdline...
[7:07] <Broly> "I booted several times successfull my Pi 2.
[7:07] <Broly> But on the Pi 3 i get the black screen every time.
[7:07] <Broly> lolll
[7:07] <sware> The driver worked on Pi 2 when I tried it before
[7:07] <Broly> same
[7:07] <Broly> i didn't expect there to be an issue with the introductino of wifi
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[7:08] <Lartza> sware, Did you disable both splash and quiet?
[7:08] <Broly> and this issue's from LAST year too eh
[7:08] <Broly> w0w
[7:08] <sware> neither of those settings are in the config file
[7:08] <Lartza> sware, cmdline.txt
[7:08] <Lartza> not config.txt
[7:08] <sware> I'll see
[7:09] <Lartza> Both of those are safe to delete you just get an uglier boot, you can always add them back later
[7:11] <sware> neither of them are in cmdline.txt
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[7:17] <sware> gunna buy another pi 2. this is ridiculous
[7:17] <Lartza> lol
[7:17] <Lartza> Just don't use the highly unstable opengl driver??
[7:17] <Lartza> I don't have raspbian not sure what the cmdline.txt is for raspbian
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[7:19] <sware> it's kind of required for what I'm doing
[7:22] <Lartza> Mhh
[7:25] <Broly> you can't be the only one having this issue
[7:25] <Broly> "PIXEL releases break the openGL driver. It's a simple matter of disabling something (but off hand I can't remember what) in the boot config (it might be removing "splash" or "quite" ).
[7:25] <Broly> "
[7:25] <Broly> you try searching those up?
[7:26] <sware> yes, I was the one that posted that link lol
[7:26] <sware> I'm not the only one having the issue. I'm installing the first release with the driver now to see if it's pixel
[7:27] <Broly> maybe you need to set the modes manually
[7:27] <Broly> hence tvservice -p
[7:27] <Broly> dawg
[7:27] <sware> tvservice -p just gave me a black screen
[7:28] <Broly> sorry i think that turns it on and off
[7:28] <Broly> if you type it again it should come back on
[7:28] <Broly> tvservice -s
[7:28] <sware> I edited the config settings manually a hundred times because apparently the latest pixel update removed the UI settings
[7:28] <sware> menu
[7:28] <sware> well I cleared pixel off for now so I'll try that later I guess but for now I'm going to see if it's broken out of the gate with the feb 9th release
[7:29] <Broly> tvservice gives you modes that you can use to set in your boot file
[7:29] <sware> yeah I got the list before
[7:29] <Broly> ok
[7:29] <sware> saved it and then edited for each. It didn't change anything
[7:29] <Broly> then you've done everything you could
[7:29] <Broly> and you can say that with a clear conscience
[7:29] <Broly> and any potential solution probably isn't as simple as that post suggested
[7:30] <Broly> lol hilarious
[7:30] <Broly> pi2 gl driver worked great
[7:30] <Broly> i was transcoding using that kodi thinger. i was impressed. my xbox one feels sub par and the thing was so dinky
[7:30] <Broly> go figure
[7:31] <Broly> pi3 was pure cash grab anyways
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[7:46] <sware> yeah I dunno
[7:47] <sware> it seems like the pi3 is a let down. I gave my friend my pi2 when I got this 3. I'm regretting it now.
[7:47] <Broly> hahahhaha WIRED IN WIFI DAWG
[7:47] <Broly> it was hilarious seeing benchies of wifi pwning the ethernet hbecause it shared the same controller as the usb
[7:47] <sware> I'm about to test non-pixel to see
[7:48] <Broly> wonder what's in pixel that would make it behave that way
[7:48] <Broly> (if the lite version works)
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[7:54] <sware> black screen with pre-pixel too
[7:54] <sware> great.
[7:54] <Broly> awww man
[7:55] <Broly> i was waiting to hear a positive result
[7:55] <Broly> you know what i was gonna do?
[7:55] <sware> what?
[7:55] <Broly> blast this:
[7:55] * Broly is listening to "Jessie's Girl" by Rick Springfield, from the album Working Class Dog. missing valuekbps MP3
[7:55] <Broly> god what good is our channel when this shit is being put out with ghetto video support
[7:56] <Broly> how can something that worked, stop working when the intention was to add features
[7:56] <Broly> my goodness
[7:57] <sware> lol
[7:57] <sware> I wish that I had Jessie's girl
[7:57] <Broly> this must suck to go through man i'm sorry. esp when you gave away your 2b expecting no issue with something that worked
[7:58] <Broly> all i can do is say damn man i hope you don't give these guys more money :LP
[7:58] <sware> it's alright man it's just frustrating
[7:58] <Broly> things like this shouldn't happen. if this was a desktop platform and this happened. boy..
[7:58] <Broly> that company would be bankrupt
[7:59] <sware> yeah I'm not really sure why they don't support this properly.
[7:59] <Broly> too many fingers, too few pies
[7:59] <Broly> thus leading to too many fingerson average in each pie
[7:59] <Broly> thus ruining the pie, and not making it pie anymore
[7:59] <Broly> more of a crumble hybrid
[8:00] <sware> at least pixel was a tiny bit better than this seeing the difference
[8:01] <sware> trying to get wifi running right now to see if I can update some things ;/
[8:01] <Broly> lol
[8:04] <sware> is the driver open source?
[8:04] <Broly> not sure
[8:04] <Broly> you check the git repository?
[8:05] <Broly> https://github.com/raspberrypi
[8:05] <Broly> peruse through these if you wish
[8:05] <sware> yeah just found it. I'm going to mess with it.
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[8:32] <mfa298> I'm pretty sure the OpenGL driver is still experimental, which is why it's not enabled by default.
[8:33] <mfa298> so some issues and debugging being required are to be expected
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[9:22] <Lartza> experimental/unstable/broken from times, take your pick ;)
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[10:45] <jancoow> Hi. I'm still strugling to get nfs network boot working with my own compiled kernel
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[10:45] <jancoow> could someone point me out which options i've to enable
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[11:14] <jancoow> The nic isn't coming online so I still guess the driver isn't loaded
[11:14] <jancoow> but i'm not sure..
[11:14] <jancoow> Can't find antyhing on the internet ugh
[11:14] <jancoow> ali1234: still online? :)
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[11:46] <jancoow> So, nobody who can help getting nfs root work in 4.4 kernel? :(
[11:49] <BurtyB> what's the problem?
[11:49] <j4ckcom> jancoow: what’s wrong?
[11:50] <gordonDrogon> I did roon ot nfs on a Pi... but that was 4 years ago.
[11:50] <jancoow> BurtyB: j4ckcom: trying to nfs root a filesystem with the 4.4 kernel, But can't figure out the kernel options for building with nfs root. Everytime I tried I get the same error : No filesystem could mount root, tried: nfs
[11:50] <gordonDrogon> I gave up on it after that, now boot on SD, root on SD, home on nfs.
[11:50] <jancoow> kernel panic not syncing vfs unable to mount root fs on unknown-block raspberry pi nfs
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[11:51] <j4ckcom> jancoow: i have no idea. be happy 😨
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[11:52] <gordonDrogon> the touble with emoji's in written text is that they're too small. I see circle with motorbike over car ... or is it a telephone ...
[11:53] <jancoow> ugh
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[11:54] <gordonDrogon> ah, I copy&paste it into a decoder - I see a face with bowl hair cut and unhappy smile.
[11:58] <jancoow> Ugh, I can't figure it out. Pretty annoying.
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[12:00] <gordonDrogon> are you using root=/dev/nfs ?
[12:01] <jancoow> yes, the mcdline options are working on the newest kernel
[12:01] <jancoow> cmd*
[12:01] <gordonDrogon> ah, ok - but not on your own compiled kernel?
[12:02] <gordonDrogon> I used standard kernel when I tried it.
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[12:13] <jancoow> gordonDrogon: yeah, but i'm trying to network boot openwrt
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[12:22] <BurtyB> jancoow, have you compared the config files and looked for anything NFS related?
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[12:44] <WantFood> How well does puppet and docker work on a pi?
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[12:58] <brainzap> it works well, but pis are not built for production
[12:58] <WantFood> It's not for prod, it's for home use
[12:59] <ShorTie> lots are used in production
[12:59] <ShorTie> i'd say way more then home use
[12:59] <gordonDrogon> brainzap, depends on what type of "production" you mean - Pi's done make good serverty type of things due to IO limitations, but for many other uses, there are 100000's of Pi's in real life production things...
[13:00] <WantFood> I will use it with puppet and docker to keep things in source control
[13:00] <WantFood> And then I want to use it to play 1080p videos
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[13:00] <gordonDrogon> it should be fine for that, but excercise a little patience :)
[13:00] <WantFood> Why?
[13:01] <gordonDrogon> (not for video - that's fine)
[13:01] <WantFood> Patience for what?
[13:01] <gordonDrogon> relatively slow IO compared to a low-end intel for example.
[13:01] <WantFood> But enough IO from an external HDD for 1080p?
[13:01] <gordonDrogon> sure.
[13:02] <gordonDrogon> I run Kodi on a Piv3. works really well.
[13:02] <gordonDrogon> streams from tinterweb or LAN server via wi-fi without issues.
[13:03] <WantFood> I only have 100 meg on my wifi
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[13:04] <gordonDrogon> on-board Pi v3 Wi-Fi is only 40Mb.
[13:05] <WantFood> It will be right next to my router anyways, for the ehternet
[13:06] <gordonDrogon> might as well hard-wire it then.
[13:08] <lupinedk> heh moved my rpi down on the cold main water pipe for the house - 12 degree celcius drop in temps
[13:09] <WantFood> I want to run splunk, docker and puppet agent on it as well
[13:13] <ali1234> http://paste.debian.net/922647/
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[13:14] <ali1234> i wonder how much ram those gettys use
[13:14] <gordonDrogon> not as much as you might think.
[13:15] <gordonDrogon> they all share the same program image - it's just the per process data that's additional.
[13:15] <ali1234> so 1 page :)
[13:15] <gordonDrogon> not sure.
[13:15] <ali1234> can't be less than that, if they have per process data
[13:15] <ali1234> actually maybe it could, if there's one table in shm or something
[13:15] <ali1234> that would be kinds dangerous though
[13:16] <ali1234> they could overwrite each other's information
[13:16] <gordonDrogon> no - they have completely separate data
[13:16] <ali1234> yeah, copy on write i assume
[13:16] <gordonDrogon> the program image might not even be in ram at any point in time. it will be demand paged from disk.
[13:16] <ali1234> its definitely in ram, this is a ramdisk
[13:16] <gordonDrogon> same principle.
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[13:16] <ali1234> as i understand it, ramdisk is implemented via the cache mechanism
[13:17] <ali1234> so you never ever get two copies
[13:17] <gordonDrogon> turn them off if you are concerned & wans to save a few MB.
[13:18] <ali1234> i need at least one, so the saving would be almost nothing
[13:18] <gordonDrogon> I only ever run 2 myself - but I don't know how to change it via systemd as I don't run it.
[13:18] <ali1234> jancoow: are you still here?
[13:18] <ali1234> openwrt is small enough to run from a ramdisk
[13:19] <ali1234> its way easier than trying to do nfsroot
[13:19] <jancoow> ali1234: yeah
[13:19] <jancoow> nice
[13:19] <jancoow> is that possible?
[13:19] <ali1234> yes, of course it is possible :)
[13:19] <ali1234> i suggest you customize our image with the openwrt image builder
[13:19] <ali1234> then make it into an initrd
[13:20] <ali1234> i assume you can boot a kernel
[13:20] <ali1234> all you need to do is drop your initrd in the tftp dir, and add it to config.txt
[13:20] <jancoow> ali1234: it would be awesome if you could help me further with that! currently I had nfs boot working, but something goes wrong in the init - preinit=, it trys to mount_root on /dev/root
[13:20] <ali1234> "initramfs initrd"
[13:20] <ali1234> if it is called initrd
[13:20] <jancoow> ah so
[13:21] <jancoow> that's awesome!
[13:21] <jancoow> so I only have to generate a initird instead of a .img ?
[13:21] <ali1234> yes
[13:21] <jancoow> put that in tftpboot
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[13:21] <jancoow> and then voila?
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[13:21] <ali1234> yes, i expect openwrt can already do this
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[13:21] <jancoow> yup, its in menu config
[13:21] <WantFood> Do any of you work in sysadmin or devops roles?
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[13:22] <ali1234> WantFood: sometimes
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[13:22] <WantFood> ali1234: I'm trying to skill up my linux, I figure a pi might be a good idea for a play den. Any suggestions on how to get something good going?
[13:23] <jancoow> ali1234: only 1 thing.. where does the configs get saved? ram disk? ;p
[13:23] <ali1234> well what is your skill level?
[13:23] <jancoow> then it would get lost on reboot
[13:23] <WantFood> Minimal!
[13:23] <WantFood> I've done bits of linux but I work as a c# dev
[13:23] <ali1234> jancoow: yes, you need to customize the image during build
[13:23] <gordonDrogon> WantFood, I used to do sysadmin stuff - before the term 'devops' was coined.
[13:24] <ali1234> WantFood: okay but what is your real skill level? are you able to read documentation and apply it, or do you need step by step guides?
[13:24] <WantFood> Step by step mostly
[13:25] <oq> gordonDrogon: back when computer programs had to be knitted?
[13:25] <gordonDrogon> oq, no - that was the magnetic cores.
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[13:26] <ali1234> WantFood: what do you want to do with it?
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[13:27] <WantFood> ali1234: Github mirror, rsync from server, playing media
[13:27] <bedah> WantFood, google for your local "linux user group" would be my advice..
[13:27] <gordonDrogon> although some LUGs are better than others )-:
[13:27] <bedah> yes
[13:28] <bedah> like hackerspaces, there are the artistic ones, and the clean ones
[13:28] <gordonDrogon> and ones that even care.
[13:29] <WantFood> I don't have a beard or a pony tail. Will LUG's bully me out?
[13:29] <bedah> nope
[13:29] <bedah> i too have no beard and tail, and most of the time i wear a nice shirt
[13:29] <WantFood> Wow, like.. a shirt?! Not a dragon t-shirt?
[13:30] <gordonDrogon> I have a beard... hair falling out )-:
[13:30] <WantFood> Now I really don't believe you've ever used linux.
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[13:30] <Sonny_Jim> The stereotype of beard and pony tail hasn't been true since about '96
[13:30] <WantFood> haha gordonDrogon.. Me too :/ Hair transplant ftw.
[13:30] <gordonDrogon> I've never woekd in a place requiring shirt & tie
[13:30] <bedah> "beard" smells like "hipster" ;D
[13:30] <hypermist> i have a pony tail and a beard that needs to be shaven because its so annoying hah
[13:31] <WantFood> bedah: I like to be clean shaven, but if you shaev your head you need to have a bit of stubble at least
[13:31] <gordonDrogon> yea, maybe that. I also bake the sourdough breads to go with it though :-)
[13:31] <WantFood> Otherwise you end up looking like a baby.
[13:32] <YoJimmy> Yah, we don't tie back our hair anymore.
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[13:42] <hypermist> the suspense of waiting for prints to finish :D
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[14:07] <jancoow> ali1234: as far as I know, it isn't possible to save your config while using a ramdisk, right
[14:07] <jancoow> this have to be saved on the external server
[14:07] <ali1234> yes
[14:07] <ali1234> build it in to the image
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[14:11] <jancoow> what exactly do you mean?
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[14:11] <ali1234> what configuration changes do you want to make?
[14:12] <jancoow> iptables etc.
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[14:13] <ali1234> see https://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/howto/build#custom_files
[14:14] <jancoow> that would actually work ~
[14:14] <jancoow> the only thing is that i'm not able to change this later in the webui if I want to add an extra port forward tho
[14:15] <ali1234> true
[14:15] <ali1234> you have to build a new image, if you want to reconfigure it
[14:15] <jancoow> exactly
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[14:16] <ali1234> maybe this is not the right solution for you
[14:16] <jancoow> maybe not but it would at least work ;p
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[14:17] <jancoow> The nfs root boot can work, but there is just something wrong in the init scripts of openwrt
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[14:37] <brainzap> Why is infrared not solved? I don't understand how it always has to be such a pain
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[14:48] <batch> good day all, is there anyone who can tell me how to setup wifi in pi zero wireless? i'm busy on it for an entire night allready and still no dice
[14:49] <funkster> my RPI3 never draws more power then 1A from testing, it the recommended 2.5A for surgers or powering USB device off it?
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[14:52] <oq> funkster: they recommend 2.5A for the worst possible scenario, ie you're maxing out all the usb ports
[14:52] <funkster> oq: gotcha. makes sense.
[14:53] <oq> and even then it's better to have more than you need because those wall warts tend to have sketchy output when you max them out
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[14:55] <funkster> Looking to build a battery solution thats plugged into wall 24/7 for a max output of 5V 4A while its unplugged from all as well, i don't care if the power drops if unplugged from wall outlet. I tested 4 different "pass through" chargers and they all don't do this.
[14:55] <funkster> unplugged from wall as well*
[14:56] <oq> funkster: why 4A?
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[14:56] <oq> I think that's too much current for a usb port to handle
[14:56] <funkster> 3-4A wil do. i am powering RPI and 2 other devices.
[14:57] <funkster> oq: sorry need to clarify. multiple usb ports. 2A each.
[14:57] <oq> funkster: so you're building a ups?
[14:58] <funkster> oq: well, i don't care if the output power is "interrupted" if unplugged from wall. i just need it to power the device back up, if that happens. so i guess its sort of a UPS.
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[15:04] <ivyb> hello!
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[15:04] <Mafoo> Good Afternoon
[15:05] <ivyb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glZnkpIDWSE i just saw this and I want to do that myself
[15:05] <gordonDrogon> funkster, the 2.5A recommendation comes from the overall total power that might be drawn - there is a 1.2A budget for the USB ports (and GPIO), leaving 1.3A for the cpu/gpu, etc.
[15:05] <ivyb> any idea what program to use which will detect tunes?
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[15:05] <funkster> gordonDrogon: gotcha. makes sense
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[15:07] <Bauerpauer> Hi there, anyone have a some time to help me get an SSD1306 OLED module working on a Pi Zero? I can see it through i2cdetect, but I only get I/O errors when trying to control it.
[15:07] <ivyb> he plays ocarine like in zelda and the raspberry pi can detect the different tunes nad run a different action for each one
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[15:09] <gordonDrogon> Bauerpauer, I've never used one, but are you writing your own code to drive it, or using a library?
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[15:10] <Bauerpauer> gordonDrogon, I've tried to whip up examples using 3 different libs - One each in golang, python, and ruby.
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[15:12] <gordonDrogon> Bauerpauer, can you do simple i2cget and i2cset commands to it?
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[15:13] <Bauerpauer> i2c is definitely enabled, and I can see the device using i2cdetect, and i2cdump does... something. I'll try an i2cget now.
[15:13] <gordonDrogon> just trying to work out if the basic interface is fine, or it something the code is doing.
[15:13] <Mafoo> Anyone have any advice with the following, i have a Pi Zero WiFi edition and i want to use the bluetooth with a 'HSP profile headset' i know out of the box rasbian has bluez 5.23 with pulseaudio 5.0 while means it won't support it, however i was able to install pulseaudio 7 from debian-backports however it is still unable to connect givign the unhelpful 'org.bluez.Error.NotAvailable' i
[15:13] <Mafoo> doo seem to have teh corerct audio sink and audio source modes showing up in bluetoothctl
[15:13] <Stromeko> I'd still like to know if it's possible to configure more than one pps-gpio (and if so, how)…
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[15:16] <Mafoo> oh and i am trying to do this headless as i want to use it to bridge a couple of Turtle beach headsets to mumble
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[15:25] <Bauerpauer> gordonDrogon - `i2cget -y 1 0x3c 0x0 Error: Read failed`
[15:26] <Bauerpauer> But, `i2cdump -y 1 0x3c` spits out data.
[15:26] <gordonDrogon> i wonder if it's something like a clock stretching issue..
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[15:27] <Bauerpauer> I saw mention of that, and how baud rate settings may fix it - I feel like I ran the gamut on that - edit/reboot from 8000 to 100000, no dice.
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[15:28] <hypermist> http://www.gearbest.com/raspberry-pi/pp_603488.html do you think this would blow up in my face ;P?
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[15:30] <Sonny_Jim> 'looks' ok
[15:31] <Sonny_Jim> ie there's protection circuitry on the battery itself
[15:31] <hypermist> would be interesting because if that actually is worth it. then i have a soruce for cheap lipo's that could go bang ;p
[15:31] <Sonny_Jim> More info here:
[15:31] <Sonny_Jim> http://www.raspberrypiwiki.com/index.php/RPI_Lithium_Battery_Expansion_Board_SKU:435230
[15:32] <ali1234> the battery wont really be 3800mAh for that price
[15:32] <Sonny_Jim> Dunno why you'd want dual USB output for something specifically designed for the Pi?
[15:32] <Sonny_Jim> Also not sure if that will run as a UPS (ie can charge and run at the same time)
[15:32] <hypermist> i just need something that can supply like even 2500mAh lol
[15:33] <oq> can it charge the lipo?
[15:33] <oq> some of those lipo psu's need a separate charger, like the zero lipo
[15:33] <hypermist> i have another circuit that i'd use literally only want the lip Lol
[15:33] <hypermist> lipo *
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[15:41] <Mafoo> the dual ports could be to make a easier connection to pi + lcd
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[15:52] <Bauerpauer> Well gordonDrogon, I dunno what the heck is goin on. We're going to give it a shot on Model B instead. I appreciate the help!
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[15:55] <gordonDrogon> Bauerpauer, can't think there will be any issue between Pi models really.
[15:55] <gordonDrogon> issue/difference.
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[15:56] <gordonDrogon> https://learn.adafruit.com/ssd1306-oled-displays-with-raspberry-pi-and-beaglebone-black/overview
[15:56] <gordonDrogon> that suggests it does work with the Pi.... have you tried their code?
[15:56] <Bauerpauer> gordonDrogon me neither, but my son and I have been tryin to get this thing working for hours, gotta try something!
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[15:58] <batch> can someone tell me why all wireless packets get dropped?
[15:58] <batch> i'm not really sure why this is happening pff
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[16:01] <Bauerpauer> gordonDrogon - .... works perfectly fine in the ModelB - didn't do a thing other than take SD card out of the Zero and connect it up.
[16:02] <akk> I'm trying to update an old raspbian (jessie) but I'm stuck with Errors were encountered while processing: lightdm
[16:02] <akk> Is lightdm still the dm that's normally used? Is there any way around it?
[16:02] <gordonDrogon> Bauerpauer, Ah, right.
[16:03] <gordonDrogon> akk, jessie is the current raspbian, it's not old.
[16:03] <akk> I've tried apt-get install --reinstall lightdm, and it fails with E: Internal Error, No file name for lightdm:armhf
[16:03] <akk> gordonDrogon: It's mostly that I hadn't updated it in quite a while.
[16:04] <akk> I've also tried apt-get remove lightdb followed by installing it again, same error.
[16:04] <gordonDrogon> akk, ah, ok. not sure why that's happeing then - might be something to do with their new pixel desktop - have you tried a dist-upgrade ?
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[16:04] <akk> This is a dist-upgrade.
[16:04] <gordonDrogon> well try normal update/upgrade then ?
[16:05] <gordonDrogon> I don't run pixel/lxde thing myself.
[16:05] <akk> apt-get upgrade gives the same error, Errors were encountered while processing: lightdm
[16:05] <akk> I don't normally run lxde either, mostly I ssh in or use a serial cable.
[16:05] <akk> But I'd like to be able to run X if I need to.
[16:05] <gordonDrogon> only think I could suggest would be a re-install, pain though that is - not exactly a good solution though
[16:09] <batch> is anybody been able to ssh to raspberry zero wireless while the zero has static ip?
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[16:09] <batch> and minimalis image
[16:10] <batch> raspbian lite i mean
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[16:12] <akk> How about python3-pygame? Anyone use that? I can't install it because: python3-pygame : Depends: python3 (< 3.3) but 3.4.2-2 is to be installed
[16:13] <Mafoo> batch i use the wpa_supplicant preloaded to boot drive to preconfigure teh wireless, that seemd to work fine for me
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[16:20] <Mafoo> batch this article mentiones presetting wifi search for 'wpa_supplicant.conf' in https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/another-update-raspbian/
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[16:31] <gordonDrogon> batch, all my Pi 0w's have a static IP address and I can ssh in just fine.
[16:31] <redrabbit> is there a way to use mon mode on the Broadcom BCM43438
[16:32] <redrabbit> batch: echo > /boot/ssh
[16:32] <redrabbit> /boot/ beeing your sd card boot part
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[16:33] <redrabbit> and use nmap to find your rpi
[16:33] <redrabbit> nmap -sn 192.168.0.0/24
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[16:36] <ali1234> redrabbit: https://github.com/seemoo-lab/nexmon
[16:36] <redrabbit> it exists :o
[16:36] <redrabbit> ali1234: does it work properly/ do you use it
[16:36] <ali1234> i dont use it
[16:36] <gordonDrogon> if only batch would reply and tell us why he can't ssh in ...
[16:36] <redrabbit> :(
[16:37] <redrabbit> i like mermaids too
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[16:37] <redrabbit> im going to try it
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[16:38] <redrabbit> would be a ton better to use the internal wlan of the rpi0W
[16:38] <redrabbit> the antenna is dope
[16:38] <redrabbit> that + PAN over bluetooth to get a shell
[16:38] <redrabbit> would be the most compact wireless auditing tool ever
[16:39] <gordonDrogon> you can solder on a connector for external antenna if you need it.
[16:39] <batch> gordonDrogon sorry :D
[16:39] <redrabbit> the internal antenna is awesome
[16:39] <batch> i'm using the normal raspbian now atm
[16:39] <batch> and uhm
[16:39] <redrabbit> no need to imo
[16:39] <gordonDrogon> redrabbit, yea, I've not noticed any issues with it so-far.
[16:39] <batch> i trimmed it to be cli only
[16:40] <redrabbit> batch: what. use light and dont trim
[16:40] <gordonDrogon> batch can you login via keyboard & screen OK?
[16:40] <batch> yeah just fine
[16:40] <oq> gordonDrogon: it also involves moving a super teeny tiny resistor.....
[16:40] <batch> only 1 little warning about display
[16:40] <gordonDrogon> ok, can it ping 8.8.8.8 and generally see the internet ok?
[16:41] <redrabbit> why get jessie with pixel and remove the extra stuff instead of using lite
[16:41] <gordonDrogon> if so, then run sudo raspi-config and find the menu option to enable sshd.
[16:41] <batch> redrabbit because i can't make the wireless get to work hmm
[16:41] <batch> gordonDrogon yeah
[16:41] <redrabbit> doesnt make sense
[16:41] <redrabbit> use lite
[16:41] <batch> but ehm i can not even ping with that lite
[16:41] <redrabbit> https://designdesk.org/linux/headless-setup-rpi-raspberry-pi
[16:42] <batch> i saw route is ok and resolv etc etc
[16:42] <redrabbit> needs some minimal prep
[16:42] <gordonDrogon> it doesn' matter now - it's running, ok, just make sure sshd is enabled.
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[16:42] <redrabbit> full install trimmed to the bones = failure prone
[16:42] <batch> redrabbit yeah i have no clue
[16:42] <redrabbit> just saying
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[16:43] <batch> i have the not-working one on other sdcard so i'll give it another look later
[16:43] <batch> i'll try to follow the instructions of your link redrabbit thx
[16:43] <batch> gordonDrogon thx anyway mate
[16:43] <redrabbit> easiest way is to get lite image, add ssh file in the boot partition
[16:44] <redrabbit> then nmap to get it
[16:44] <batch> hmm
[16:44] <redrabbit> +Enable wireless connectivity steps
[16:44] <gordonDrogon> if you have keyboard & screen access, it's so much easier. - seems like batch already has this though.
[16:44] <redrabbit> dont mind the other stuff, its optional
[16:45] <redrabbit> gordonDrogon: probably
[16:45] <gordonDrogon> from the keyboard just make sure sshd is enabled using raspi-conifg
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[16:45] <batch> XKB extension not present on localhost:10.0
[16:45] <batch> that's all because probably i try with X11
[16:45] <redrabbit> what if you type
[16:45] <redrabbit> service ssh status
[16:45] <gordonDrogon> you can probably fix that by also using raspi-config to make sure it boots to a login prompt rather than tried to start the desktop.
[16:45] <redrabbit> then iconfig
[16:45] <redrabbit> > should get you enough info to ssh in
[16:46] <batch> ok wait let me boot into the not working one
[16:47] <redrabbit> knowing how to do headless setups is always good to take though
[16:47] <redrabbit> its not that complicated
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[16:53] <batch> ok looked like i was having a little problem with consolefont and keymap hmm
[16:53] <batch> idk if it mathered, rebootig now
[16:53] <hmoney> burtyb you around? i got the clusterhat in :)
[16:54] <redrabbit> nice how much pi0 are you gonna hookup
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[16:58] <mewmoo> I have a 4 node bramble here ^_^
[16:58] <mewmoo> I haven't hooked it up in a bit though because I've been too busy with school
[16:58] <mewmoo> Hi though o/
[16:58] <mewmoo> New to this server/chan. Checking it out
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[17:01] <hmoney> 4 pi zeros and a raspi 3 connected to the clusterhat
[17:01] <hmoney> looking up a tutorial to get started now, got a lot of microSD cards to setup -.-
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[17:02] <hmoney> gonna use it to learn docker, docker-swarm, and w/e else i stumble upon
[17:02] <akk> Should the raspbian an https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/raspbian/ work on an original model B?
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[17:03] <akk> Oh, wait, it's coming up, it just took incredibly long for pixel to start up.
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[17:05] <hmoney> yeah older pis arent the best w/ a gui
[17:05] <hmoney> really none of them are compared to a pc :/
[17:06] <batch> hmmm enable numblock @ boot?
[17:06] <mewmoo> I have one somewhere
[17:06] <mewmoo> sec
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[17:06] <mewmoo> http://www.piratemoo.net/moosings/uncategorized/my-raspberry-bramble-project-d/
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[17:07] <mewmoo> I did that off the maker tut :3
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[17:08] <mewmoo> (don't laugh ;-;)
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[17:10] <sjk> Hi guys! I'm excited to see that there are FreeBSD images available for rpi nowadays (yes, my rpi projects have been on hold for a while...) Anyone tried it or have any thoughts to share on how it performs compared to raspbian?
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[17:11] <mewmoo> Ooh, I haven't, but sounds like something to do when I'm done with my term :3
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[17:15] <sjk> :-)
[17:16] <mewmoo> I'm taking 7 classes, so I've been on overkill as is between work and school lol
[17:16] * mewmoo is on spring break though
[17:16] <mewmoo> ^_^
[17:19] <batch> redrabbit not working
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[17:37] <jancoow> ali1234: Hi
[17:38] <jancoow> I've got a initramfs-kernel.bin now
[17:38] <jancoow> but i'm not sure how to boot from it :/
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[17:41] <redrabbit> batch: let me try my magic powers
[17:41] <redrabbit> mhhmhmhmhmhmh
[17:42] <redrabbit> works now
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[17:46] <Wizard> Yo
[17:47] <Wizard> Seems that best desktop environment for Pi is KDE1 ;D
[17:47] <Wizard> Full of features and small memory footprint.
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[17:59] <enginerd123> Hi all
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[18:04] <BurtyB> mhoney, I am now, I had some notifications of delivery earlier and thought one of them might have been you :)
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[18:05] <batch> redrabbit lol, thx for help anyway, need some food now, thx for the help
[18:05] <redrabbit> ^^
[18:05] <redrabbit> gl with it, its gonna work
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[18:09] <BurtyB> mhoney, soon I hope to have enough time to fix that multiple SD card problem ;)
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[18:28] <hmoney> mhoney is the other guy :(
[18:28] <hmoney> multiple sd card problem? i just wrote all 5 of them and booting up the cluster now
[18:29] <hmoney> i was wondering if there are any issues with doing a apt-get update and apt-get upgrade with the cluster version of raspbian
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[18:30] <BurtyB> hmoney, *doh* re my nick failings
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[18:31] <BurtyB> hmoney, needing 5 is the problem.. I'm hoping for just 1 at some point :). updating shouldn't cause any issues
[18:31] <hmoney> ah
[18:31] <hmoney> ok good
[18:31] <hmoney> so.. i tried to just turn on p1
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[18:31] <hmoney> and i put the ssh file into the boot dir, but apparently it didnt take
[18:31] <hmoney> just shows connection refused
[18:32] <hmoney> do i have to ssh in from the controller or should i be able to do it on any computer on my lan?
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[18:32] <hmoney> nevermind, just took a minute to come up...
[18:32] <BurtyB> hmoney, you can connect over serial "minicom p1" and fix it from the controller :) It should work over the network
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[18:33] <hmoney> good to know about minicom
[18:35] <hmoney> if i reboot from within the cmd line do each zero come back up? or do i have to do it via clusterhat command?
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[18:35] <hmoney> like after going to raspi-config and changing settings
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[18:35] <enginerd123> anyone here with recommendations for making a sensor data GUI on my Pi?
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[18:36] <BurtyB> hmoney, you have to turn them on again with the command
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[18:36] <hmoney> ah, it actually rebooted without having to do the clusterhat cmd, interesting
[18:36] <hmoney> man this is gonna be fun to play with :P
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[18:37] <BurtyB> hmoney, ah sorry I thoguht you mean the controller, rebooting the zeros is ok
[18:37] <hmoney> thanks again for the coins btw, grandpa loved them
[18:37] <hmoney> ah ye
[18:37] <BurtyB> hmoney, np
[18:37] <hmoney> funny to see young and old queen on the different year coins
[18:38] <BurtyB> yeah :)
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[18:40] <jancoow> could someone help me with getting ramfs to work
[18:40] <jancoow> i've a initramfs-kernel.bin
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[18:45] <hmoney> burtyb: im going to setup the clusterhat with this: https://niels.nu/blog/2017/docker-swarm-bramble-raspberry-clusterhat.html
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[18:47] <hmoney> what type of power do each zero consume from the pi3?
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[18:48] <hmoney> also... any way to turn off the yellow LEDs on the clusterhat itself?
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[19:58] <BurtyB> hmoney, not a lot (~150mA each) and no to the led
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[21:52] <Valduare> is recalbox all french speakers?
[21:52] <Valduare> i never see english in the #recalbox irc channel
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[22:44] <ali1234> jancoow: what files do you have from openwrt?
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[22:45] <S0bait> Are there any good alternatives to ROS that you guys have used?
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[22:45] <jancoow> ali1234: I compiled a ramdisk: openwrt-brcm2708-bcm2710-rpi-3-initramfs-kernel.bin
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[22:46] <ali1234> okay that sounds like a combined image
[22:46] <ali1234> just boot use it as a kernel image
[22:48] <jancoow> that would mean? Rename it to kernel.img ?
[22:48] <jancoow> I'm currently just trying to place it on the boot partition and check if it works :)
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[22:49] <ali1234> yes
[22:50] <jancoow> ali1234: got btw nfs working but I can't use the interface where it is nfs booting from: If I want to use it in openwrt it will reset (if down / up) the interface, nfs connection drops and no working os anymore
[22:50] <ali1234> sounds about right
[22:51] <jancoow> ali1234: what should there be in cmdline.txt?
[22:51] <ali1234> just the usual
[22:51] <ali1234> it should pick up the initrd automatically
[22:52] <jancoow> ali1234: huh, booting from sdcard which isn't inserted? ;p
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[22:52] <ali1234> dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=serial0,115200 console=tty1 elevator=deadline rootwait consoleblank=0
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[22:54] <jancoow> ali1234: man, you are a hero.
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[22:58] <jancoow> ali1234: Now I just need to enable nfs mount the config folder
[22:59] <jancoow> But that have to be done in the compiled os :/
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[23:04] <jancoow> ali1234: well, it shouldn't be that hard, right? I already compiled nfs-client in the kernel so the only thing what i've to execute on boot is mount .. /etc/config .
[23:04] <ali1234> yeah but you need to do it early enough in the boot up so that it is mounted before anything attempts to use it
[23:05] <ali1234> and you will still have the problem of disconnection when network interfaces restart
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[23:06] <jancoow> what I could to is compile default configuration (so always connection on WAN side so can always reach nfs server), so nfs server is available on boot, then load config files and then reload everything so config files are applied or something
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[23:07] <ali1234> i can't help you with that. i'm not familiar enough with how openwrt works
[23:08] <jancoow> No worries. You already helped me a lot
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[23:13] <akk> I have a script that plays sounds from pygame. It works if I run it as user pi, or as root, but not if I make another user and run it as that user.
[23:13] <akk> My user is in the audio group. What else do I need?
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[23:19] <akk> I don't get errors when I try to play sounds, it's just silent. Same if I try aplay file.wav.
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[23:21] <akk> Looks like maybe something's broken in the raspbian pulse setup: http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/47281/only-root-and-pi-user-have-audio
[23:22] * akk tries removing pulseaudio
[23:23] <akk> yep, that's it, pulse is broken and breaks playing from any user besides pi and root.
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