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IRC Log for 2017-03-25

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[0:00] <plum> uh oh
[0:00] <plum> rebooted my pi zero with that new entry in /etc/fstab
[0:01] <plum> now it's giving me issues...
[0:01] <plum> or just isn't online somehow, ssh isn't working
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[0:02] <plum> ping shows host is unreachable
[0:02] <humbot> how long ? it can take minutes to time-out on not-found devices
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[0:04] <plum> From 10.10.1.91 icmp_seq=72 Destination Host Unreachable
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[0:04] <plum> all of them are showing unreachable for over 2min
[0:05] <plum> 153 packets transmitted, 0 received, +151 errors, 100% packet loss, time 155075ms
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[0:05] <plum> pipe 4
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[0:12] <plum> i'll need to plug it in to the monitor and check it out when i get home
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[0:34] <amigojapan_bnc> so I have 80USD in limbo now ad no RPI touchscreen displey after I ordered from SR components Japan…they took money from my debit card but they claim the payment did not go thru and there is nothing they can do about it, now I need to call the debit card company, but it is just a debit card I bought at a convenience store :( but I had bought an RPI III with the same card no problem, what happened to my 80USD?!
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[0:37] <Travis> They stole it
[0:41] <amigojapan_bnc> Travis: SR comonents is the official RPI distributer in Japan
[0:41] * amigojapan_bnc thought he could trust
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[0:46] <akk> I have two disks with RPi images on them, one for the original Pi and one for the Pi 3. Is there a way to tell without booting, e.g. from kernel.img, which is which?
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[0:49] <Viper168> amigojapan_bnc, what company is the debit card through
[0:49] <Viper168> or prepaid credit, or whatever it is
[0:49] <amigojapan_bnc> Viper168: it is a Japanese company called vpreca (short for virtual prepaid card)
[0:49] <Viper168> most of the major companies offer fraud protection, you have to do some paperwork but they will usually give the money back
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[0:50] <Viper168> ah
[0:50] <Viper168> well, you'll have to call and ask them about fraud protection then
[0:50] <amigojapan_bnc> Viper168: yeah, I will call them on monday
[0:50] <Viper168> either way I'd get anything on it off and cancel the card ocne it's resolved
[0:51] <Viper168> get a new one
[0:51] <Viper168> companies like that will let them go
[0:51] <Viper168> then you end up with charges from the UK for some scammer's internet service
[0:51] <Viper168> etc..
[0:52] <Viper168> it will get around
[0:52] <amigojapan_bnc> ok Viper168 , that is why I dont use my credit card, that is why I get prepaid cards, so that nobody can screw me over badly
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[0:57] <amigojapan_bnc> Viper168: weird thing is that I ordered 2 things off SR components and one of hte things arrived, so I dont think they are out there just to do fraud, I think they made some kind of mistake
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[1:00] <ali1234> akk: the pi 3 kernel is called kernel7
[1:01] <akk> interesting, on this (motioneyeos) it was just called kernel.img
[1:01] <ali1234> it falls back to kernel.img
[1:01] <ali1234> kernel7 is for cards that support both
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[1:02] <akk> but I think I figured it out: one had bcm2710-rpi-3-b.dtb while the other had bcm2708-rpi-b-plus.dtb, bcm2708-rpi-b.dtb and bcm2708-rpi-cm.dtb
[1:02] <akk> so I assume the former is the pi 3 image and the latter is the original pi image.
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[1:02] <ali1234> yeah
[1:02] <ali1234> raspbian images just have everything
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[1:03] <akk> Yeah, I didn't have trouble booting the same image on both pi b and pi3
[1:03] <akk> but motioneyeos is much more picky.
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[1:04] <akk> (turned out I couldn't get it to work on the original model b, so I'm putting that card back into my "blank SD cards" pile)
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[1:21] <Valduare> wonder what the next pi’s are going to bring to the table
[1:21] <Valduare> any speculation?
[1:21] <Valduare> new soc with usb3? gigabit ethernet etc.
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[1:23] <oq> Valduare: next pi is probably doing to be an A+ with the pi3 soc, anything beyond that like a pi4 is probably a year or two off
[1:23] <oq> s/doing/going
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[4:54] <Smeef> Is this legit? As in is it really a 3.5 inch 1080p touch screen? http://www.ebay.com/itm/US-3-5-HDMI-1920x1080-LCD-Display-Touch-Screen-for-Raspberry-Pi-2-3-Model-B-/332087743319
[4:55] <Smeef> I'm having a hard time believing it...
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[4:57] <Valduare> what do you need that for
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[5:02] <ball> That's just a strange idea.
[5:03] <password2> wut is
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[5:04] <CoJaBo> Smeef: That's the max supported res of the scaler; AKA, it's a scam, seller never mentions the panel res.
[5:05] <binaryhermit> I don't know, Sony's released a couple phones with 4k displays
[5:06] <binaryhermit> or at least one
[5:06] <binaryhermit> not sure if the second is out yet
[5:06] <binaryhermit> though they run at 1080p most of the time
[5:06] <CoJaBo> Not at that pricepoint tho; and it wouldn't be unbranded if it were that high DPI
[5:06] <ball> What DPI are eInk hats?
[5:06] <Smeef> CoJaBo, that's what made me skeptical, thanks for the second opinion
[5:07] <CoJaBo> It's pretty common for small HDMI screens to support higher-than-native resolutions; and it's actually useful, because the OS may not support it otherwise. But not listing the native res, is scammy; I have one that's only ~240p
[5:08] <password2> link?
[5:08] <CoJaBo> If you need a super-cheap pi display, and don't care about res, look for back-up camera displays for vehicles; I got mine on sale for $4
[5:09] <CoJaBo> Some can even be modded to accept 5v input
[5:13] <Chillum> oh ya, I forgot they had analog video out
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[5:17] <password2> so what do i need to start messing around with an rpi zero , just some cabling to connect to usb and a microsd card?
[5:18] <password2> or do i need display too?
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[5:18] <CoJaBo> password2: The cables for the 0 are a PITA
[5:18] <CoJaBo> I still haven't been able to find a minihdmi :/
[5:19] <password2> my cam uses one too :/
[5:19] <password2> omw
[5:19] <password2> just had an idea
[5:20] <password2> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Xiaomi-yi-action-camera-1-38-Inch-Color-AU-output-display-LCD-screen-Yi-Camera-Accessories/1000001227618.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.21.id33bQ&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_4_10065_10068_433_434_10136_10137_10138_10060_10062_10141_125_10056_10055_10054_301_10059_10531_10099_10530_10103_10102_10096_10052_10144_10053_10050_10107_10142_10051_10106_10143_10526_10529_10084_10083_10080_10082_10081_10110_10
[5:20] <password2> 111_10112_10113_10114_10078_10079_10073_10070_10122_10123_10124,searchweb201603_6,afswitch_1,ppcSwitch_5,single_sort_0_default&btsid=45e615f9-1bf9-4e4c-b391-419a8061216a&algo_expid=54bf4200-7f8d-4033-b2f4-57d4c07721ac-2&algo_pvid=54bf4200-7f8d-4033-b2f4-57d4c07721ac
[5:20] <password2> i keep forgetting about that
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[5:21] <password2> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/x/1000001227618.html
[5:21] <password2> expensive , but a tiny display
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[5:27] <password2> CoJaBo, is it micro or mini hdmi?
[5:27] <CoJaBo> password2: Mini, iirc
[5:27] <CoJaBo> Micro is more common, but the connector probably costs more
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[5:28] <password2> wow micro to hdmi is lik $2 whereas mini to hdmi is like $5
[5:29] <password2> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/High-quality-Gold-Plated-Mini-HDMI-male-to-HDMI-female-Adapter-for-HDTV-1080p/32252034014.html
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[6:13] <aberrant> hi all
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[6:14] <aberrant> can someone please explain how my eth0 is participating in dhcp when I’ve got `iface eth0 inet manual` in /etc/network/interfaces?
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[8:23] <password2> now i remember why i dont default join here
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[12:51] <kerio> hm why didn't the pi zero use a microhdmi port?
[12:52] <oq> kerio: maybe its too similiar in size and shape to the micro usb ports
[13:01] <ShorTie> because then most peeps would need a adapter ??
[13:02] <ShorTie> it would be different then the rest
[13:02] <mfa298> ShorTie: you mean instead of the mini hdmi they currently need
[13:03] <ShorTie> Sorry, me bad, twas just talking off the top of my head
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[14:58] <Lucifer> Hi, is there a way to connect my Pi 3 Model B with a speaker?
[14:59] <Lucifer> I would preferably do this over bluetooth
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[14:59] <Lucifer> Stream music on it
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[15:00] <pksato> Lucifer: Yes, connect amplified speaker on 3.5mm jack.
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[15:02] <Chillum> bluetooth will have much better sound than using the 3.5mm jack
[15:02] <Lucifer> It's for school project, I need to buy a speaker, but Im not sure which one to get. It's more like im worried that i buy a wrong speaker which isnt compitable with pi
[15:03] <pksato> normal multimedia speaker for pcs.
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[15:04] <pksato> but, some cases, need a trrs adapter.
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[15:10] <Lucifer> http://www.janox.nl/Mini-bluetooth-beatbox-speaker-zwart?gclid=Cj0KEQjwqtjGBRD8yfi9h42H9YUBEiQAmki5OlDnrVdugOljGMgL1OZH9c3Z1nYX3xTIQiB3_Pms07YaAjro8P8HAQ
[15:10] <Lucifer> It supports: A2DP, AVRCP, headset, handsfree profile
[15:10] <Lucifer> Works on bluetooth and also on 3,5mm jack plug
[15:10] <Lucifer> Would that work?
[15:12] <Chillum> yes
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[15:12] <Chillum> but everything will be in Dutch
[15:12] <Chillum> (kidding)
[15:12] <Lucifer> xD
[15:13] <Lucifer> Ty :)
[15:13] <Lucifer> Gonna get that one then
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[15:14] <Lucifer> Altough
[15:14] <Lucifer> it says 60x60x50 mm
[15:14] <Lucifer> That must be super smal
[15:14] <Lucifer> lmfao
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[15:14] <Lucifer> small*
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[15:18] <teclo-> what's the problem with Dutch ?
[15:18] <teclo-> It's a nice language
[15:18] <Chillum> nothing wrong with Dutch, other than I can't understand it
[15:19] <Chillum> It makes me laugh every time I hear it
[15:19] <pksato> Lucifer: make one, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86kVe5lm7xE
[15:20] <Lucifer> pksato, yea perhaps a fun thing to do in the summer, deadline is like in 1.5 week :P
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[15:52] <ShanShen_pi> Greetings, Pi city!
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[16:20] <swensson> third time I loose the data on the raspberry becuase I do a "bad" poweroff, I really need to fix a script to shut the raspberry of before I pull the power supply... Anyone know how to start a script at boot when everything is up and running?... The problem is that the script do read my xbox analog joystick input and it dosn't really work if I "automatically" start it :O
[16:24] <shauno> I suspect I know what's going wrong, but I can't find the right google-fu to return anything relevant :/ I think systemd (or consolekit) are dynamically giving permissions to sessions that it things are logged in locally
[16:24] <shauno> .. or something like that. It's really, really difficult to figure out how all these subsystems interact since the hipsters took over
[16:25] <Lucifer> Is there a way to find my PI's local IP, without connecting it first to a screen?
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[16:27] <gordonDrogon> swensson, /etc/rc.local ?
[16:27] <gordonDrogon> shauno, I run my Pi's without systemd... may not quite hipster, but old hippy ;-)
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[16:29] <password8> lol swensson
[16:30] <password8> my boss told me at the other branch they were having with sd card becoming permanently damaged
[16:30] <password8> turns out they ALWAYS just yank the power
[16:30] <password8> I was lost for words
[16:31] <password8> they literally use the sd cards as a consumable
[16:31] <password8> they expect to lose a few each month
[16:31] <gordonDrogon> the foundation did a test where they ran a Pi for some time (weeks/months?) with it having the plug pulled at random (relay driven off another Pi) to see what would happen. Nothing special was the result.
[16:32] <gordonDrogon> however I've lost 3 myself - one was in my wifes Mac though - she pulled it out before it had unmounted )-:
[16:32] <password8> did they physically yank the power?
[16:32] <password8> the PIs survive , the sd cards dont
[16:32] <password8> oh you said relay
[16:33] <password8> i dont want to work for a monkey that cant be bothered shutting down computers
[16:33] <password8> he did the same with my pc and a few other
[16:33] <gordonDrogon> why do they need to shut them down?
[16:33] <Deshi> wow
[16:34] <password8> the network was slow so he started pulling power cables on computers until it was fast again
[16:34] <Deshi> i did not know you could power down a pi
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[16:34] <gordonDrogon> Deshi, you unplug it. no plug, no power.
[16:34] <Deshi> well yeah but i mean like properly power down
[16:34] <password8> and data corruption
[16:35] <Deshi> i just drop to terminal and run shutdown
[16:35] <password8> :O
[16:35] <shauno> gordonDrogon: that's more like it :) when I started using linux, I didn't have the internet at home. so I sat down and read /etc/rcS to figure out what happened at boot. now, I have no idea
[16:35] <Deshi> then pull the power
[16:35] <password8> Deshi, thats the proper way
[16:35] <gordonDrogon> Deshi, you can't, but you can run sudo halt to properly shut down Linux.
[16:35] <Deshi> oh ok whew guess i aint been doing it wrong
[16:35] <Deshi> setting up a pi right now but i just moved and could only find a 4gig card
[16:35] <password8> I've been considering getting/making a pi hat for him that does power management
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[16:36] <shauno> powering it off is unimportant. getting the kernel to unmount (or readonly) the filesystem in a consistent state, and stop touching the card, is
[16:36] <gordonDrogon> Deshi, keep doing that - either sudo halt, or whatever. most Pi's will flash the green led 10 times, but the Pi 0w doesn't seem to for some reason.
[16:36] <Deshi> im doing the raspbian lite what is the better choice for a GUI on that with only 4gig
[16:36] <Deshi> im using a Pi3
[16:36] <Deshi> it flashes the colors when i run that
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[16:40] <gordonDrogon> the standard pixel thing runs in 4G as far as I'm aware- you can remove some big stuff like libreoffice, wolfram, etc.
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[16:41] <swensson> gordonDrogon yep, that did the trick :D
[16:42] <Deshi> alright
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[16:43] <Deshi> ordering another sandisk 64gig for my retropi and a 16g for my home automation crap which was a nightmare with openhab and all that good lord
[16:43] <Deshi> then again i was trying to incorporate voice commands with mic arrays
[16:45] <aZz7eCh> apache2 questions okay here guys ?
[16:46] <gordonDrogon> swensson, one thing to remember is that there is no $PATH in /etc/rc.local, but it sounds like your going now. just something to be aware of.
[16:47] <ali1234> wow bricklink is great... apparently i can buy all the lego in pirover for £16. it seems too good to be true...
[16:47] <swensson> Ah, good to know ;D
[16:47] <Deshi> aZz7eCh, i might be able to help
[16:48] <aZz7eCh> thanks deshi - ive been pointed to #httpd
[16:48] <Deshi> you can pm me
[16:48] <ali1234> swensson: same applies for crontab, and anything else where a user isn't really logged in
[16:48] <aZz7eCh> if i get stuck i will. thanks
[16:48] <Deshi> no problem
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[16:58] <ali1234> swensson: also you should consider using a systemd unit instead of rc.local... it will automatically restart your app if it crashes, and shut it down properly when the system shuts down
[16:59] <Deshi> death to systemd
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[17:05] <password8> can anything be turned into systemd cmd?
[17:05] <ali1234> yes
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[17:06] <ali1234> and it's very easy too
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[17:21] <swensson> Ah good to know. Gonna work on the script for the controller soon... Anyone know how to start a script that gets user input in form of a joystick?... The script starts but I can't use the joystick
[17:26] <ali1234> will probably be a permissions issue as shauno said
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[18:48] <velus> hello im looking to turn a raspberrypi into a tv box, one that will recive channels from 1 our streaming server for freeview, and 2 our streaming server which streams channels from other area's but im needing a remote for the rasberrypi, is there any tuts for making a remote for it, im looking for to make a tv style remote to change channels and such
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[18:50] <shauno> two options really. lircd, which will need you to connect a receiver (ir LED) to a gpio pin, plenty on google for it. and the flirc dongle (which I use) - the easy way out, emulates a keyboard. you teach it your remote, and you're off
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[18:51] <shauno> either lets you use whatever remote you want. I use a cheapo 4-in-1 deal with mine
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[18:52] <shauno> (or there's the CEC stuff that should let your pi listen to your TV's remote using a datachannel over hdmi. I've ever used that, so .. I know it exists, and nothing more)
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[18:52] <velus> cool cool, thanks shauno i will look into them now, and will look at the remotes, i like the look of the sky q remote which is cool i just need to know how to link them up
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[18:53] <shauno> with either lircd or flirc, you can either look to see if someone has a config written for it already - or just follow the instructions to learn the remote
[18:54] <shauno> flirc has a gui for it, so I stick the dongle (it's usb) in my laptop, teach it what it needs to know, then plug it into the pi. lircd .. it's been a decade since I've tried, but google should cover it
[18:55] <velus> thanks
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[18:56] <velus> im debating wither to get a pi zero or a full pi, i might get both so then i can use one for living room and one for bedroom
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[18:58] <oq> velus: pi0 is underpowered and outdated with limited outputs but is very small
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[18:59] <oq> if you want portability get a zero, if you want to use ethernet and multiple usb ports or run something intensive get a pi3
[18:59] <oq> and by intensive I mean any sort of gui
[18:59] <oq> be that a DE or a media centre or w/
[18:59] <shauno> yeah. the zero's great fun for anywhere that the size (or power draw) are make-or-break. I'd stick with a 2 or 3 anywhere else. going back to single-core if you don't need to, just ain't worth it
[18:59] <dtrainor> Hi. Anyone got much experience with using RPi.GPIO? I'm trying to use it on Fedora 25 ARM on a raspi2b and keep getting a segfault when trying to run some example code from https://learn.sparkfun.com/tutorials/raspberry-gpio/python-rpigpio-example . Seems to fail at 'GPIO.setup(pwmPin, GPIO.OUT)'. I've tried running this in both python 2 and python 3. I read up on the pin numbering schemes and using the BCM scheme. Anyone exp
[18:59] <dtrainor> erienced this before?
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[19:05] <dtrainor> i had an arduino project and ran in to a few problems..... #1 i'm not good at wiring/c, #2 i ran out of memory. i was playing around with a arduino raspi bridge but that wasn't very fun. so i'd liek to do this exclusively in python on a raspi but so far my gpio experiences haven't been great
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[19:05] <dtrainor> Well crap. It might not be related to that module. The Fedora 25 ARM FAQ asks about GPIO, and the answer is: GPIO isn't supported well as they need to be mapped with Device Tree overlays. This will be improved in the F-25 cycle, and in Fedora 26.
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[19:19] <velus> thanks shauno im looking at flic now and will use it
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[19:20] <kihis> dtrainor: have you tried with raspbian? maybe fedora is the problem :)
[19:21] <dtrainor> i have not, nope. that's next. i'm a little biased towards fedora :)
[19:21] <dtrainor> but, i know fedora was a late arrival on armv7, so that might explain things a bit
[19:22] <kihis> yeah. if it does not work with raspbian then there might be some physical problems with your pi
[19:22] <kihis> :/
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[19:23] <kihis> actually is there any hints in dmesg?
[19:23] <kihis> or if you change the pin number? that code should work even if you have nothing wired to the pi
[19:24] <kihis> without segfaults
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[19:25] <Chillum> Announcing the Rapsberry Pi Zero 2 W(not really): http://images.highinbc.com/RPi-Zero-2-W.jpg
[19:25] <password2> Chillum, mail me one
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[19:26] <Chillum> lol it was hard taking those connectors off
[19:26] <dtrainor> i've used two different examples that had slightly different code and different pinouts using the RPi.GPIO module
[19:26] <Chillum> especially the surface mount ones
[19:26] <dtrainor> I'll double-check dmesg
[19:26] <Chillum> I mad a dogs breakfast of the hdmi and camera/display ports
[19:26] <password2> oh , you too the connectos off!
[19:26] * password2 highfives Chillum
[19:26] <Chillum> the parts were melting before the solder
[19:26] <Chillum> lol
[19:26] <Chillum> and soldered on the inside of a wifi dongle
[19:26] <Chillum> jbwelded to the board
[19:26] <password2> does it still work?
[19:27] <Chillum> probably... have not tried yet
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[19:27] <password2> I've alway wanted to do that and stuff it in an psp case
[19:27] <dtrainor> na, nothing interesting in dmesg
[19:27] <Chillum> pretty sure there are no shorts or damage to the traces
[19:27] <Chillum> should work
[19:27] <dtrainor> i guess i'm still hung over.. didn't think to update the system before trying this. doing so now.
[19:27] <ali1234> so what is it?
[19:27] <password2> you used a solder iron?
[19:28] <ali1234> Chillum: that photo is actually really helpful to me... because i want to replace the DPI connector with a right angle one
[19:28] <Chillum> I tried removing it with the hot air gun but the plastic melted before the solder
[19:28] <ali1234> now i know what the footprint is like :)
[19:29] <Chillum> so I am thinking next time I will add some low temp solder to it first
[19:29] <ali1234> hmm that's also useful information
[19:29] <Chillum> bloody rosh
[19:29] <ali1234> what you can do... is solder together all of the pins into a huge blob
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[19:29] <Chillum> true
[19:29] <ali1234> that works well for eg 8 pin soic
[19:29] <password2> i wonder if it can be reflown in an oven?
[19:30] <ali1234> another trick is preheating the board from below
[19:30] <Chillum> I am not sure how they put those connectors on, I suppose they may be using a more precise temperature curve than my hot air gun
[19:30] <Chillum> ahhh
[19:30] <Chillum> true
[19:30] <Chillum> the oven would heat it more evenly
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[19:30] <ali1234> there is supposedly a 3A on the way
[19:31] <Chillum> the through hole stuff was a breeze with my new desoldering iron
[19:31] <ali1234> which is pretty much this
[19:31] <Chillum> neat
[19:31] <Chillum> now I just need some confined space to slide this into
[19:32] <Chillum> though I did break the ring around one of the mounting posts
[19:32] <password2> I've always thought it would be nice if you can get an rpi without the connectors soldered , just loos in a bag
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[19:32] <Chillum> indeed
[19:32] <Chillum> I loved that the zero did not come with gpio attached
[19:32] <Chillum> I can't see it costing them much to do that either
[19:33] <password2> is it an rpi3 you did this to?
[19:33] <Chillum> just change the pick and place program on a few sheets
[19:33] <Chillum> it is a rpi 2
[19:33] <Chillum> thus the added wifi dongle
[19:33] <password2> ah
[19:33] <password2> ofc
[19:33] <password2> i only have an rpi1 atm
[19:34] <password2> haven't powered it up in ages
[19:34] <Chillum> I will start it up with a serial/usb adapter soon and see if it works, but first I am going to smoke something nice and drink beer in the sun
[19:34] <password2> i dont have a nice test setup for it
[19:34] <password2> enjoy
[19:34] <password2> and let me know the result
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[19:35] <Chillum> thickest point is the microusb port
[19:35] <viju> Anyone with experience tinkering with raspberrypi as well arduino, I want to start a small beginner project just turns LED/switches in remote area turn on-off using gprs. Which is less painful to work with? I have no experience with hardware and I cannot tell a capacitor from a resistor.
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[19:36] <Chillum> I would use an arduino for that simply because it is a simpler device and can handle it fine
[19:36] <Chillum> if it is more painful or not depends on how you feel about single threaded C++ programming
[19:37] <Chillum> or if you prefer to work inside an operating system
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[19:38] <dtrainor> viju, i'm kind of walking that line too, though my electronics experience is... a bit greater. i ran in to some limitations of this project on arduino so i decided to communicate between arduino and rpi via serial. then i got to looking in to raspi's gpio and i'm in the process now of testing that out. unfortunately my experience hasn't been that great, but i am using the fedora 25 armv7 spin so that might be my problem
[19:38] <dtrainor> also, i needed a practical excuse to learn python better
[19:39] <dtrainor> not that $dayjob wasn't a good excuse already, but still heh
[19:39] <viju> Budget is a bigger constraint, not that I cannot afford raspberry pi, but with zero knowledge of electronics I frying up those boards could become an expensive hobby for me.
[19:39] <viju> Treading coutiously
[19:39] <dtrainor> if one of these boards could be fried easily, i would have done it
[19:40] <dtrainor> and at, what, $20 for an arduino (yes, lots of variables in this, but still)? even if it did explode, i don't worry too much.
[19:40] <ali1234> more like $2
[19:40] <dtrainor> sure, there's a variable
[19:40] <Chillum> cheap nanos are the way to go
[19:41] <dtrainor> arduino has been pretty resilient to my abuse the last year and a half
[19:41] <ali1234> i have never blown up an AVR or a pi
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[19:41] <password2> i wonder if i should run my rpi bare metal , idk
[19:41] <dtrainor> if you're worried about exploding something, really just focus on your polarity and as long as you're not logically connecting + to - then you're fine
[19:41] <ali1234> plenty of other stuff yes :)
[19:42] <dtrainor> ali1234, exactly haha
[19:42] <ali1234> be careful with capacitors
[19:42] <dtrainor> oh, those little guys...
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[19:43] <dtrainor> pass
[19:44] <Chillum> an arduino may be easier to not accidentally fry because it is a 5V logic system vs a 3.3V
[19:44] <kihis> next time i have some money at my bank account i'll order a couple of tiny duinos just for testing stuff
[19:44] <Chillum> and while the arduino is happy with a 3.3V signal, the pi will not respond well to a 5V signal
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[19:44] <ali1234> arduino will still fry if you run it from 3.3V and then connect 5V signal to the gpio
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[19:45] <password2> it will?
[19:45] <ali1234> yes
[19:45] <Chillum> true
[19:46] <dtrainor> prior to testing out gpio on rpi i was working on a communications method between rpi and arduino over serial, using json and queues. i think i'm going to go back to that and maybe visit rpi gpio later on.
[19:46] <password2> eh
[19:46] <Chillum> logic high must not be much over VCC
[19:46] <Chillum> I think any excess gets converted to heat
[19:46] <password2> i json not a bit heavy for your task/
[19:47] <password2> well i dont know what you are doing though
[19:47] <Chillum> I have fed 5V to Rpi's GPIO at like 500uA and it worked for a while but failed after months
[19:49] <kihis> wtf :D json with rpi<->duino
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[19:49] <kihis> why oh why
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[19:52] <kihis> FYI you can get pretty nice effects to small neon bulbs with pi and optocoupled triac
[19:53] <batch> hi, is wpa-roam in /etc/networks/interfaces needed for wlan0 ?
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[19:58] <oq> batch: the wpa-roam would be where you would enter the wifi connection info like ssid and the password
[19:58] <velus> shauno, you about?
[19:58] <batch> oq i mean this:
[19:58] <batch> wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
[19:58] <batch> or
[19:58] <batch> wpa-roam /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
[19:59] <oq> if you're asking if you need both wpa-conf and wpa-roam then you don't, they pretty much do the same thing with some slight differences
[20:00] <batch> which difference do we talk about then oq? cause thats indeed the question i'm wondering about
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[20:01] <oq> batch: the roaming mode is for multiple wifi networks with different network configs
[20:02] <password2> we took an rpi2 sdcard with os and everythign setup and plugged into rpi3 , surprisingly everything worked
[20:02] <password2> even the wifi
[20:02] <batch> oh something like bridgedap in openwrt you mean then oq?
[20:02] <batch> ok ok
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[20:03] <oq> batch: nah it's not about bridging, it's about reconnecting to a particular network vs flickering between many
[20:04] <batch> oh ok now it start making sense
[20:04] <oq> password2: yeah when your raspberry pi updates it downloads the firmware for all the pis
[20:04] <batch> ik now i have better view on the differnces, thx oq !
[20:04] <dtrainor> kihis, I wanted an exercise in handling json data and figured it would be suitable for transactional messages :)
[20:06] <kihis> dtrainor: well that's fine. but might be still slightly overkill
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[20:06] <dtrainor> it might be sure.
[20:06] <kihis> dtrainor: what kind of data you are transfering between those devices?
[20:06] <kihis> (just curious :)
[20:07] <dtrainor> oh, you know, i'm sure you've heard it a hundred times before in here - another all-grain brewing project
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[20:07] <dtrainor> temperatures, valve positions, relay status
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[20:07] <gordonDrogon> neat.
[20:07] <dtrainor> auger start/stop, pressures etc.
[20:08] <kihis> cool :o
[20:08] <gordonDrogon> I'm currently working with a microbrewery, slowly adding in automation...
[20:08] <password2> nice gordonDrogon
[20:08] <dtrainor> i desperately needed a hands-on project, and i've always enjoyed brewing, arduino, making computers talk with the physical world, and weldin
[20:08] <dtrainor> welding
[20:08] <oq> gordonDrogon: beer?
[20:08] <kihis> moonshine!
[20:08] <gordonDrogon> oq, actually lagers. beer's been done. lager is the new challenge.
[20:09] <dtrainor> i hate to be "that guy" because i'm sure half the questions you people get in here are of the "how do i make raspberry brew beer" variety
[20:09] <oq> is lager not a beer?
[20:09] <password2> dtrainor, i love welding too!
[20:09] <gordonDrogon> oq, they are both fermented grain products. the main difference is the fermentation temperature and the type of yeast.
[20:09] <password2> oq depends on how smug you want to be
[20:09] <dtrainor> i had it done on arduino but i needed a human interface, and the best i could get was a 3.5" touchscreen that was very cumbersome to use, so i scrapped it and decided to learn python better, and incorporate qt
[20:09] <Chillum> It works: http://pastebin.com/E1UX7gyA !
[20:09] <oq> gordonDrogon: all my life I've believed lager to a subset of beer.....
[20:10] <oq> ie, lager and ale are both different types of beer
[20:10] <oq> are you really saying lager isn't beer
[20:10] <gordonDrogon> oq, I'd suggest they are both different.
[20:10] <Chillum> password2: seems to function
[20:10] <gordonDrogon> beer and ale - sort of the same thing. lager different.
[20:10] <dtrainor> the reception is mixed at best, so i don't talk about it much. lots of people say that by automating the process, you're taking the art out of brewing... to which i smile and walk away. it's still an art. just a different kind of art.
[20:10] <password2> well done it!
[20:10] <Chillum> http://images.highinbc.com/RPi-Zero-2-W.jpg <-- amazed I did not mess it up
[20:10] <gordonDrogon> dtrainor, indeed.
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[20:11] <Chillum> now to find a use for it
[20:11] <password2> dtrainor, yeah , you cant argue with those people
[20:11] <dtrainor> whatever, i can respect both sides, but i do what i want, so...
[20:11] <oq> Chillum: if you're not using the usb ports, or the ethernet ports, why not just buy a pi0w
[20:11] <password2> Chillum, stick it in an psp case and wire the screen and buttons up
[20:11] <password2> and then mail it to me
[20:12] <Chillum> oq: more cpu I guess
[20:12] <Chillum> I just have a stack of rpi 2s
[20:12] <gordonDrogon> Chillum, er ... you added wi-fi to a v2 ?
[20:12] <password2> moar powah
[20:12] <Chillum> yup
[20:12] <dtrainor> kihis, i wanted a means of communication between python (rpi) and arduino that was non-blocking, so json with queues on both sides seemed like a good idea
[20:12] <batch> if i wanna use static ip, i just do systemctl disable dhcpcd right?
[20:12] <batch> and have correct static config
[20:12] <Chillum> I added, and I taketh away
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[20:13] <Chillum> oq: that is why I named it the Pi Zero 2 W
[20:13] <password2> urg
[20:13] <dtrainor> by transactional, i mean, the python side sends a request, includes a guid, that is received by arduino in to a fifo queue, the queue gets processed, data sent back over serial, includes the data and the guid, python side matches it, and there's my ordered data
[20:13] <password2> i need to pack my things away :(
[20:13] <oq> Chillum: if you left one usb port connected you'd be better calling it the A+2
[20:13] <gordonDrogon> dtrainor, that's a grossly inefficient way to do it, however if it works for you ...
[20:14] <Chillum> that would increase its width like 5x
[20:14] <Chillum> or more
[20:14] <Chillum> hehe
[20:14] <Chillum> technically it has 3 usb ports left, you just have to wire to them instead of using ports
[20:14] <dtrainor> gordonDrogon, open to suggestions
[20:14] <gordonDrogon> dtrainor, use a Pi all the way?
[20:14] <Chillum> I might add a GPS to it and do some war walking
[20:14] <gordonDrogon> ie. not arduino.
[20:15] <dtrainor> like i said, this was one big learning experience, on many different levels. i've never been particularly good at any part of these things, which is precisely why i'm doing them
[20:15] <dtrainor> gordonDrogon, i'm playing with rpi gpio right now, that looks promising
[20:15] <dtrainor> i only started looking in to it the other day
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[20:16] <gordonDrogon> fwiw: I'm using ATmgas everywhere, taking back to Pi's via rfm69 radios.
[20:16] <dtrainor> oh that's cool
[20:18] <dtrainor> well, i expect a little bit of a learning curve between arduino and rpi gpio, to what extent or why, i am not sure yet
[20:18] <dtrainor> but i'd like to get started on that
[20:18] <gordonDrogon> some of the kit is portable, so power is an issue at times.
[20:19] <gordonDrogon> all my code is in C and BASIC, so I've really no idea how python wants to talk serial.
[20:19] <dtrainor> right
[20:19] <dtrainor> it was new to me. seems pretty straight forward. just an object that represents a resource, pretty boring.
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[20:20] <gordonDrogon> oddly enough I've just replied to an email about python to arduino comms. too
[20:20] <dtrainor> well i appreciate the candid chats so far, i'll idle here for a while
[20:21] <dtrainor> waiting for this fedora 25 rpi spin to update to see if that gets me any further with gpio, since the rpi.gpio python module was giving me fits. i'm not sure yet if it's because fedora's gpio on rpi isn't all the way finished, or if i have a different problem
[20:21] <gordonDrogon> dtrainor, do yourself a favour and stick to raspbian. it's the 99.99999% solution on the Pi.
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[20:22] <dtrainor> yeah that's what i'm hearing
[20:22] <Chillum> I wish the pi 2 schematics included the test points, I know they are mapped elsewhere but it would be handy to have those in the schematic
[20:22] <dtrainor> like i said earlier, i'm a little biased towards fedora, but at the end of the day i need to get stuff done
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[20:23] <gordonDrogon> I'm sure it works just fine, but raspbian is where the support is.
[20:23] <dtrainor> i don't disagree
[20:23] <dtrainor> fedora is almost done updating. if i still can't test gpio then i'll switch it over to raspbian
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[21:11] <GreyHazRoot> blatant RPi logo theft https://imgur.com/LGZEEWQ
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[21:23] <gordonDrogon> GreyHazRoot, that's pretty neat and horrible at the same time. I presume you've pinged them via the forums?
[21:24] <GreyHazRoot> I found that on reddit and a few other said they were going to contact RPi
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[21:39] <Voop> so i was running libreelec on a pi2 on my tv
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[21:39] <Voop> somehow, my tv remote was working on it?
[21:39] <Voop> anyone know how/why that works?
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[21:40] <Voop> im convinced it was magic
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[21:40] * ShorTie Thinkz lirc
[21:41] <Voop> lirc is on there
[21:41] <Voop> does that work through HDMI?
[21:41] <mfa298> Voop: CEC
[21:41] <kerio> Voop: HDMI-CEC
[21:41] <Voop> so yes
[21:41] <kerio> for all the shit that's going on with hdmi, it's got a few good things
[21:42] <kerio> no, lirc has nothing to do with it i think
[21:42] <kerio> there's no IR involved
[21:42] <kerio> it's just signals from the tv
[21:42] <Voop> thats really interesting
[21:42] <mfa298> I'm not sure it's related to lirc, CEC is a part of HDMI for commands to be sent between devices
[21:42] <Voop> i had been trying to get an IR remote to work on it for a couple hours
[21:42] <kerio> Voop: why
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[21:42] <mfa298> various devices can use it (my bluray player does clever stuff with the TV like that)
[21:42] <kerio> if your tv has HDMI-CEC
[21:42] <Voop> then for some reason i clicked a button on my tv remote and it worked
[21:43] <kerio> yep
[21:43] <kerio> it's pretty cool
[21:43] <Voop> kerio: i wasnt aware of this technology
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[21:43] <kerio> the control goes both ways as well, typically
[21:43] <kerio> to the extent that you should probably disable the hdmi cec init signal
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[21:43] <kerio> because it might turn your tv on if you happen to reboot your pi when the tv is off
[21:44] <GreyHazRoot> Voop I recently noticed that also running Xbian
[21:44] <kerio> i wonder how it appears to linux
[21:44] <kerio> if it's just a HID device
[21:44] <kerio> or something more involved with the gpu
[21:44] <mfa298> that control can be annoying at times, I found the bluray player would turn the tv and set it to the correct hdmi when you turn the bluray on, then if I turned the tv off it paused the bluray
[21:45] <Voop> arent those good things? lol
[21:45] <kerio> yea those are pretty cool ;o
[21:45] <mfa298> that was annoying as I also had a composite feed from the bluray to a different screen and wanted to watch on that device with the main tv (over hdmi off)
[21:45] <kerio> surely you can just tell the tv to not use CEC
[21:46] <mfa298> I think I just unplugged the hdmi for that case - simple solutions are often the best :)
[21:46] <kerio> disgusting
[21:47] <Voop> its funny that this hdmi-cec thing just happens to work automagically but i couldnt get simple IR to work after hours of troubleshooting
[21:47] <Voop> oh well
[21:48] <mfa298> well hdmi-cec has been around for a while, even works with my 6 year old tv and Pi1B
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[22:01] <ironpillow> hi all, is this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019SRBUNG/ref=psdc_13983791_t3_B01CCMUN8C - edup wifi adapter AC600 compatible with raspberry pi 3 B? Thanks!
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[22:05] <CoJaBo> ironpillow: I couldn't get it to work last I tried
[22:05] <CoJaBo> I might try again tho, just for the hell of it..
[22:06] <Lartza> What's the current rpi kernel?
[22:06] <kerio> ironpillow: the builtin wifi not good enough for you?
[22:06] <kerio> Lartza: 4.4.50+
[22:06] <kerio> not sure what's going on with the +
[22:06] <Lartza> The amazon lists 4.3.14 as supported
[22:06] <Lartza> :D
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[22:06] <kerio> soooo
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[22:07] <kerio> is there any recommended way of setting up bluetooth PAN with the mess that's bluez 5?
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[22:07] <CoJaBo> ironpillow: Also, Because the USB is slow, the AC adaptor isn't likely to be much, if any, faster than the builtin. I wanted to use mine only because it has better reception.
[22:07] <ironpillow> I was just looking for 802.11ac dongle
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[22:07] <CoJaBo> (I need to run a pi outside 100ft+ from the router)
[22:08] <ironpillow> I wanted to test mesh networking and so wanted a dual band adaptor
[22:08] <Lartza> ironpillow, That does not answer the question of why rpi3 builtin isn't enough
[22:08] <Lartza> Ahh
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[22:08] <CoJaBo> If I can find mine, I'll plug it in later today and see it anyhting happens lol
[22:08] <ironpillow> CoJaBo: thanks!
[22:10] <ironpillow> is a better dual band dongle that works. I can get that.
[22:11] <ironpillow> is there *
[22:11] <Lartza> ironpillow, It seems like you'd need to compile the drivers for that dongle yourself, and then it might work
[22:11] <Lartza> From a bit of research
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[22:11] <ironpillow> Lartza: cool. got it.
[22:12] <ironpillow> if you have experience with another dongle, you know works, let me know. thanks.
[22:12] <Lartza> So like, https://github.com/abperiasamy/rtl8812AU_8821AU_linux
[22:12] <Lartza> That dongle has a rtl8811au but
[22:13] <CoJaBo> Yeh, I didn't attempt compiling anything in my case
[22:13] <ironpillow> cool. thanks
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[22:16] <Lartza> ironpillow, It seems best chips for 802.11ac on Linux currently are the rtl8812au etc supported by the github repo
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[22:17] <Lartza> I could be wrong on that but that's why my again quick research indicates
[22:17] <Lartza> *what my
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[22:40] <Deshi> is it difficult to set up a vpn with the Pi?
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[22:47] <redrabbit> fairly easy Deshi
[22:48] <redrabbit> https://designdesk.org/security/setup-openvpn-vps-local-server
[22:48] <Deshi> i found a tutorial now for PIA which is what i use
[22:48] <Deshi> thanks
[22:48] <Deshi> trying to get vncserver to work proper right now hard to read the darn text on my giant tv
[22:48] <redrabbit> use ssh
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[22:48] <redrabbit> i mean its all you need to setup the vpn
[22:49] <redrabbit> looks like there is no way to shut the green led down on the pi0W ?
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[22:55] <redrabbit> got it working. it was a bit different that what worked on the pi0
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[22:57] <kerio> redrabbit: just set it default-on, if you don't want to mess with dtoverlays
[22:57] <Deshi> i did not mean to run my own vpn i use private internet access
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[23:06] <Deshi> i got it all set up though with openvpn
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[23:17] <Dave666> Hi, does anyone know if something has changed on the pi so that if you have a .xinitrc file in your home directory it will refuse to startx (actually it seems to startx then exit again with no error)
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[23:18] <Lartza> X just says it closes? You should be left with the X output after startx
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[23:19] <Dave666> Yep no errors, it just exits "successfully"
[23:20] <Lartza> What's your xinitrc made to do?
[23:20] <Dave666> Even with a .xinitrc with nothing in it, it does the same.
[23:20] <Lartza> Well an empty .xinitrc will obviously do nothing
[23:20] <Dave666> Seems like having that file in the user home dir will cause X to fail.
[23:21] <Deshi> now i cant get flash player content to work in chromium
[23:21] <Lartza> Umm well startx will run according to that file
[23:21] <Lartza> So what have you written in your .xinitrc
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[23:22] <Dave666> I have tried one that just loads chromium, which also failed the exact same way. It was a shell script with one line.
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[23:23] <Dave666> Think I might try booting to Android and running full-screen chrome in that instead. Pretty sure I had that working before.
[23:24] <Lartza> Dave666, Chromium might not be able to run alone though
[23:25] <Dave666> Yeah, I dunno, there were no errors though. I had it working with Android on the Pi3. It's just a longer boot time, but that's not a big deal.
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[23:45] <ShanShen_pi> Greetings!
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[23:46] <ShanShen_pi> The default webbrowser in Raspbian is now Chromium. How do I tell Raspbian that I want Epiphany to be the default browser?
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[23:55] <Dave666> Not sure, but I think Chromium is more efficient and follows standards better than epiphany, to be honest. It is also hardware accelerated.
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