#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2017-03-31

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[0:19] <kaosine> NineChickens: that wasn't me that was asking that ;P I was wondering if it outpreformed the slow networks down here(especially when I go to compile something there in dev-c++, that actually compiles off the server and has to return to me o_O)
[0:20] <NineChickens> idk
[0:20] <NineChickens> but it's all in-school
[0:20] * kaosine wonders how hard it would be to wire up a snes cartridge reader to work with zero w and use retrode plugins.... >_>
[0:20] <HrdwrBoB> kaosine: it's been done
[0:20] <HrdwrBoB> or at least, variants of it
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[0:21] <GenteelBen> There is quite a large overlap between "Nintendo fan" and "electrical engineer".
[0:21] <kaosine> I've never been able to find anything on it
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[0:21] <GenteelBen> Someone somewhere has definitely done that.
[0:21] <kaosine> I own a lot of old games that would be awesome to take on the go along with a adafruit display I was looking at
[0:22] <kaosine> oh wait this display is out of stock darn it o_O
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[0:25] <kaosine> HrdwrBoB: most variants I see have the "cart" functioning as the sd reader instead of actually using the real things if you have them
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[0:37] <HrdwrBoB> kaosine: you want to use the real things?
[0:37] <HrdwrBoB> ehhh
[0:38] <kaosine> HrdwrBoB: yeah.....I have them anyways after all and I'm getting sick of my retron5 and want something take on the go since I have long rpgs on snes(sfc) that I need to finish XD
[0:38] <HrdwrBoB> The variant I was thinking about simply uses it as a switch
[0:38] <HrdwrBoB> and different pins are shorted to tell it what rom to use
[0:38] <kaosine> see my thought process was to wire it so that retrode plugins could be used XD
[0:39] <kaosine> especially since those use the snes slot for the other systems
[0:39] <HrdwrBoB> that or you can put the entire system in a cartridge
[0:41] <kaosine> yeah but where's the fun in that? I'd rather make it to where I could use the real things in a custom portable XD
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[1:12] <Twist> This isn't exactly a Pi question, but someone might have done it before.. are there any low-end solutions for using a 4k display to tile output from 4 1080p sources? I'm finding a few monitors with PBP functions, but they're all expensive pro models.
[1:12] <Twist> If 4 separate 1080p displays are cheaper, there isn't much point in the single screen for my purposes.
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[2:50] <kaosine> I wonder how hard(in regards to my previous question) it would be to design a board similar to what the retrode does but wire it so that I have a system almost similar to the original gameboy(but bigger so I can slot in things like the retrode adapters from the top >_>)
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[4:14] <Emilio_> Hi, can anyone help me with fixing some ssh issues? I used to be able to connect but can't now.
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[4:15] <Emilio_> I can ssh loalhost, and the service is running. I'm using the pi as a webserver, and I can't still access my website, but ssh will not connect
[4:16] <Emilio_> The ssh connection freezes on "SSH_MSG_KEXINIT sent"
[4:16] <Sonny_Jim> odd
[4:17] <methuzla> can't or can on website?
[4:17] <Sonny_Jim> You using passfiles or passwords?
[4:17] <Emilio_> Oh my bad, I can* still access my website
[4:17] <Emilio_> I'm using passwords
[4:17] <Emilio_> I can't think of anything that's changed since I last connected
[4:17] <methuzla> change anything? install anything? run anything new? since working and non-working?
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[4:18] <Emilio_> I usually just leave it alone, anything that mayhave changed was not my doing
[4:19] <Emilio_> I can ping my pi from my laptop too, without any packet loss
[4:19] <Emilio_> Oh, and the weirdest thing was that for a little bit, I could randomly connect if I got lucky
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[4:20] <Emilio_> Now it seems to be refusing or ignoring all connections
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[4:34] <Emilio_> Actually I think I may be under an attack of sorts, because now I see an IP unknown to me is constantly trying to connect
[4:34] <methuzla> oh. sorry. let me turn that off...
[4:34] <Emilio_> Oh...
[4:34] <Sonny_Jim> hehehe
[4:35] <Sonny_Jim> If you've got it on the default port and exposed to the internet, expect hammerings
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[4:35] <Sonny_Jim> fail2ban is a very good option, as is moving it away from port 22
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[4:35] <Emilio_> I'll look into fail2ban, thanks
[4:36] <Emilio_> Hmm now I'm not sure if the connection errors were from me or methuzla
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[4:36] <Emilio_> but for whatever it's worth, I'm getting "pam_unix(sshd:auth): authentication failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=ssh ruser= rhost=[IP Address] user=root"
[4:37] <Sonny_Jim> Yeah that'll be outside attacks
[4:38] <Sonny_Jim> Like I said, move it off port 22 and that'll stop
[4:38] <Emilio_> I'll do that, but I'm not sure if that was the initial cause. I guess time will tell at this point
[4:39] <Emilio_> Is that expected behavoir of attacks though? Unable to use SSH, but other internet services still work?
[4:39] <Sonny_Jim> You did change the default password before opening up ssh, right?
[4:39] <methuzla> are you behind a router?
[4:39] <Emilio_> Yes, the default password has changed
[4:39] <Emilio_> I'm using a router
[4:39] <methuzla> is it configured to forward port 22 to your pi?
[4:40] <Emilio_> Yes
[4:40] <methuzla> oh
[4:40] <methuzla> yeah. change it.
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[4:41] <Emilio_> Just out of curiosity, if I don't have the default password, but still using port 22, am I vulnerable to anything serious security wise? or just DOS?
[4:42] <methuzla> depends on password strength and software hardness/updatedness
[4:42] <Sonny_Jim> ^ That
[4:43] <methuzla> simple port obfuscation is pretty easy though
[4:43] <Sonny_Jim> But again, a very simple and effective method to eliminate 99% of attempts is to just move it from port 22
[4:43] <methuzla> don't be a simple target. they will move on.
[4:43] <Sonny_Jim> ^ that
[4:43] <methuzla> unless targeting you
[4:44] <Emilio_> Got it, thanks. I don't think anyone was specifically targetting me, so as long as I'm safe against basic bots I'm good. But I will change from port 22 in case I do have some enemies.
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[4:47] <brianx> rate limiting also helps get rid of them.
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[4:54] <[Saint]> Emilio_: anyone telling you the default port matters in regard to attack surface is deluded.
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[4:54] <hmoney> saint
[4:54] <[Saint]> Hey, it might not be a particularly nice way of saying it...but, it's inarguable.
[4:55] <hmoney> here's an analogy i like with regards to security through obscurity: if you park your car in your garage you're less likely to get a broken window.
[4:55] <[Saint]> Any average Joe with hardware built in the last decade can scan the entire Internet in a matter of hours or less.
[4:56] <Emilio_> Hmm well fwiw I changed my SSH port and I feel safer, so that's something
[4:56] <[Saint]> Security by basically only works to keep noise out of your incoming traffic logs.
[4:56] <hmoney> best bet would be for him to setup a vpn on the pi instead of opening ssh to the world
[4:56] <Emilio_> Do you recommend any free VPNs that work well with the pi?
[4:56] <[Saint]> Or...he could just use a strong key based auth with a strong passphrase.
[4:57] <[Saint]> No need to convolute things.
[4:57] <hmoney> vpn is handy anyways :P
[4:57] <[Saint]> Emilio_:
[4:57] <[Saint]> ssh-keygen -b 4096 -v -C "$(whoami)@$(hostname) $(date +"%Y%M%d%H%M%S (%A %B %d %Y %T %Z %z)")"
[4:57] <hmoney> http://www.pivpn.io/
[4:57] <hmoney> free^
[4:57] <[Saint]> If a VPN is free, you're the product, not the customer.
[4:57] <hmoney> dude wtf
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[4:58] <hmoney> it uses openvpn, setting him up with his own vpn server...
[4:58] <hmoney> not using their servers as a vpn
[4:58] <Emilio_> Just curious, if bots weren't getting into my Pi before because my password was changed, what will stronger security do?
[4:58] <Emilio_> Thanks for the link hmoney
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[4:59] <[Saint]> There's no reason to ever dilute security.
[4:59] <hmoney> regardless of whether you setup a vpn on the pi you should absolutely turn off ssh password and use the key based auth like saint suggested
[4:59] <[Saint]> Hell, I treat my my own LAN/WAN as hostile.
[4:59] <[Saint]> s/my my/my/
[4:59] <hmoney> ssh passwords can be brute forced
[5:00] <hmoney> less likely w/ fail2ban but still
[5:00] <redrabbit> i have an iot lamp open to the outside
[5:00] <redrabbit> wanna try
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[5:00] <[Saint]> redrabbit: serious question, why would you /not/ have that behind a strong key and passphrase?
[5:01] <[Saint]> What does not doing so gain you?
[5:01] <redrabbit> rgb led controlled from web interface
[5:01] <redrabbit> runs on an ESP
[5:01] <[Saint]> These are not mutually exclusive concepts.
[5:01] <redrabbit> just put it open for fun
[5:01] <methuzla> lightbulb honeypot?
[5:01] <[Saint]> Ok. Fair.
[5:01] <redrabbit> to see if anybody is ever gonna mess with it
[5:01] <hmoney> is it on its own vlan?
[5:01] <redrabbit> nope
[5:02] <redrabbit> its just a port forward with nat
[5:02] <NedScott> interesting. Those cheap HDMI LCD screens for Pis, they have 3.5 inch versions now
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[5:02] <hmoney> you should setup a twitch-hacks-IoT-lamp :x
[5:02] <[Saint]> ...at least tell me you've got L|RACL set up?
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[5:03] <redrabbit> hmoney: im setting up a webcam feed so there would be a webpage with cam feed and light buttons
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[5:03] <hmoney> @nedscott: are those touchscreen?
[5:03] <NedScott> yes
[5:04] <NedScott> this is pretty impressive: https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R1J4LJ1JO34LD8/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B01N447AEY
[5:04] <[Saint]> Emilio_: another point of interest, assuming it hasn't been drilled into you already, which I should hope it has been...to everybody, by now, is that if you have WPS enabled on WLAN...cut that cancer out.
[5:04] <NedScott> that's a nice mini cable there
[5:04] <hmoney> those little gameboys remind me of all the other nostalgia things i tried and got bored of :x
[5:04] <[Saint]> WPS is a truly horrible idea that basically makes access security irrelevant.
[5:04] <NedScott> I'm sure it goes for even cheaper on ebay
[5:05] <[Saint]> It was nice before everyone knew how horribly broken it was.
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[5:05] <[Saint]> errr, is.
[5:05] <hmoney> saint i never read up on that, just heard it was bad
[5:05] <hmoney> does that include the WPS that needs a button to be pressed on the router?
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[5:05] <redrabbit> its like a gold mine
[5:05] <hmoney> i guess so since it still has a passkey
[5:05] <redrabbit> reaver, bully
[5:05] <redrabbit> :D
[5:05] <Emilio_> I don't think my router even has wps...
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[5:06] <redrabbit> tbh recent gear is more and more robust for that aspect
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[5:06] <redrabbit> needs some mdk3
[5:06] <[Saint]> hmoney: Yes.
[5:06] <NedScott> if it wasn't for the fact that I can get cheap "burner" Android phones for $10-20 USD, I would have a room filled with pointless little display/status screens with Raspberry Pis
[5:07] <redrabbit> where do you get them
[5:07] <[Saint]> hmoney: the basic premise is that the way WPS is negotiated means that instead of having to crack an 8 character numeric passphrase, you can crack two four character numeric passphrases.
[5:07] <redrabbit> 11000 possibilities
[5:07] <[Saint]> WHich can be done in seconds by practicaly any vaguely modern hardware.
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[5:08] <redrabbit> but you have to ask the router for each pin
[5:08] <redrabbit> so it takes more like hours
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[5:08] <redrabbit> to days
[5:08] <redrabbit> to wekks
[5:08] <redrabbit> if it responds at akk
[5:08] <redrabbit> all
[5:09] <NedScott> http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-5-LCD-Touch-Screen-Display-Module-USB-HDMI-1920x1080-RGB-For-Raspberry-Pi-3-/222317839919
[5:09] <NedScott> it even has a little audio extractor for HDMI audio
[5:09] <hmoney> i just turned WPS off, thanks for that
[5:09] <NedScott> lol at the claim that it is "1920x1080"
[5:10] <hmoney> i never used it, but yeah turns out it was setup to use the pin or the push button :(
[5:10] <redrabbit> 1080p :o
[5:10] <NedScott> It's probably 320×480 native resolution
[5:10] <NedScott> but it's a nice option for people who want a small screen and not tie up the CPU
[5:11] <NedScott> I always wanted an official LCD that used the display connector that was super small
[5:11] <NedScott> but I assume it would not be practical for the foundation to do multiple sizes like that
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[5:13] <[Saint]> hmoney: if you're in a reasonably densely populated residential area, there's a good chance /someone/ used it.
[5:13] <hmoney> nah a bunch of rich dummies in giant houses around me
[5:13] <[Saint]> Thankfully these days more and more consumer routers are configured with client segregation.
[5:13] <hmoney> using extenders, so i know they're not smart :x
[5:13] <[Saint]> hah
[5:13] <[Saint]> hah
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[5:13] <[Saint]> whoops.
[5:14] <hmoney> "i only wanted half my bandwidth anyways"
[5:14] <redrabbit> new routers with wps enabled will respond to 5/7 attempts then lock
[5:14] <redrabbit> its model specific
[5:15] <hmoney> saint: by default my ASUS router is not setup to isolate clients
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[5:15] <hmoney> but guest networks are isolated by default
[5:15] <[Saint]> eek.
[5:15] <[Saint]> More and more I touch these days do AP and client segregation.
[5:15] <Emilio_> Err so if I have an old router with no WPS button, and I don't see any option to enable/disable WPS on my router page, there's no chance it's running hidden from me, right?
[5:15] <redrabbit> still a ton a people using WEP out there
[5:15] <[Saint]> I know that because clients consistenyly ask me why they can't network.
[5:15] <redrabbit> ahah
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[5:15] <hmoney> google your router model # and disable wps and see what pops up emilio_
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[5:16] <redrabbit> i found a place where i had 16 WEP on the screen
[5:16] <redrabbit> :")
[5:16] <[Saint]> it's probably hidden behind a disabled URL in the web configuration.
[5:16] <hmoney> it's possible he's using an old router from the isp :P
[5:16] <[Saint]> most custom firmwares seem to just disable parts of the configuration by hiding the menu, not actually disabling it.
[5:16] <[Saint]> it's weird.
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[5:17] <hmoney> i dont think that's by design
[5:17] <hmoney> i believe i read that most consumer grade networking equip has software that's just cobbled together
[5:18] <[Saint]> in my experience, especially with telco provided routers, it's absolutely by design.
[5:18] <[Saint]> hiding DNS to stop you from using an alternate DNS server, for example.
[5:18] <hmoney> oh yeah
[5:18] <hmoney> well that is definitely true
[5:18] <[Saint]> Hiding dynamic DNS, because they're assholes.
[5:18] <[Saint]> The list goes on.
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[5:20] <Zardoz> it's by design according to there specifications and needs.
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[5:20] <hmoney> so i uncommented a few adlists from pihole and now redtube is blocked :x
[5:20] <Zardoz> Joe user is not going to know any better and just dont care. they just want internet...
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[5:22] <[Saint]> Right, sometimes it's malicious. ie. to attempt to prevent you from using services that aren't under their control.
[5:22] <[Saint]> Often it's to save users from themselves, and to save then needless support queries when users poke things they don't understand.
[5:23] <[Saint]> My telco hides their remote access management and TR069 config page from you.
[5:23] <Zardoz> yup
[5:23] <[Saint]> that's straight malicious if you ask me.
[5:23] <[Saint]> they want to always ensure they have a foot in the door. They claim it's for remote configuration...but...
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[5:24] <[Saint]> Thankfully, I don't use their junk. I just picked their firmware full of holes and submitted about a hundred bug reports.
[5:24] <[Saint]> Of which they address three.
[5:24] <[Saint]> ...they did pay me bounties for the ones they closed out, though.
[5:24] <[Saint]> So I guess that was nice.
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[5:46] <hmoney> they pay you in credits to your account?
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[5:50] <Emilio_> Could there be any reason why I can only SSH into my Pi using an external IP address, but not a local one? I can ping both systems from each other
[5:51] <Emilio_> Scratch that I think it's a problem with JuiceSSH because putty just connected
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[5:56] <Emilio_> Okay new question: Is there anything that could cause SSH to only sometimes accept session requests, and then when it does, run incredibly slowly?
[5:57] <Emilio_> I don't see anyone making SSH requests except for me when I run "service SSH status"
[5:58] <Emilio_> When I ping the other, 0% packet loss is reported
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[6:40] <l0rdkermit> is your sshd_config file set to ignore known hosts?
[6:41] <l0rdkermit> er... nvm..
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[7:22] <brianx> interesting iperf results out of a rtl8153 usb ethernet adapter: [ 4] 0.0-10.0 sec 384 MBytes 321 Mbits/sec
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[7:57] <oq> brianx: sounds about right for saturating usb 2
[7:59] <brianx> yeah, but i was surprised that a $10 adapter could do it. (including next day delivery)
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[8:01] <brianx> and that's also a usb3.0 version which should be a bit more future proof.
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[8:05] <oq> brianx: yeah I have one of those, it has no trouble pushing gigabit speeds on usb 3
[8:06] <brianx> i should try it. i think i have a usb3 port on this desktop...
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[8:07] <brianx> much to do though, i bought the adapter to make it easier to make this 3b into a firewall.
[8:08] <brianx> given the speed, i may just do vlan tagging so that both sides go to the same adapter.
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[8:29] <brainzap> good morning EU
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[8:31] <Drzacek> morning #rpi
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[8:49] <BurtyB> mornin
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[8:52] <patsToms> morning. I am using raspberry with usb gps device. For some reason I can't get it working with ntp. When I do ntpq -p I see that the delay, offset and jitter ir 0 for GPS.
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[8:52] <patsToms> but when I do gpsmon I see that it works and have the right time too.
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[8:53] <patsToms> maybe someone have any idea?
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[9:11] <brainzap> restart the ntpd service
[9:12] <brainzap> then check its logs, maybe something is going on
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[11:48] <DReynolds> Hi all. having an urgent problem with an experiment I'm running which is "hanging" at seemingly unrelated times. looking at syslog I'm getting constant spam revolving around "raspberrypi kernel: [146694.575659] smsc95xx 1-1.1:1.0 eth0: MII is busy in smsc95xx_mdio_read"
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[12:02] <gordonDrogon> DReynolds, is it the production kernel - ie. 4.4.x ?
[12:03] <DReynolds> gordonDrogon, yes, 4.4.38-v7+ #938
[12:05] <gordonDrogon> it might be best reporting it via the forums.
[12:07] <gordonDrogon> not one I've noticed myself though, but maybe your network is a lot busier than mine.
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[12:09] <mfa298> not sure if it's related but there's soem other ethernet issues being looked at https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/issues/673
[12:09] <mfa298> DReynolds: ^^
[12:10] <DReynolds> mfa298, ill have a look, thanks. The only mention on google I could find about the error is from 2013... weird thing is, im not even connected on ethernet.
[12:11] <gordonDrogon> I found something even older, but it was to do with an external hub & power issues.
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[12:12] <BurtyB> DReynolds, lots of usb stuff going on if not ethernet?
[12:17] <Hix> Anyone here got experience with Moebius? I'm looking for something to use for a wildlife cam, currently using raspbian lite, but moebius looks interesting. Primary concerns are power use and boot times
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[12:18] <Hix> Ideally I'd like to use an ATMega with a PIR / laser trigger to boot the Pi and kick off a record . Just wondering what sort of time it takes Moebius to do it's thang from cold
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[12:19] <gordonDrogon> I doubt there will be much power difference between distros - the Pi really doesn't have much power control.
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[12:19] <Hix> OK, thanks for the info.
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[12:20] <gordonDrogon> boot time to console (no GUI) ought to be under 30 seconds though. You could probably boot to application launch in 5 seconds if you tweaked it. My "record" was getting my basic interpreter going in 5 seconds but I also had the keyboard and filesystem initialised.
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[12:21] <Hix> It will be an embedded system, so the only hardware is the camera module. Do you have any info on the 'tweaking' side of things?
[12:21] <gordonDrogon> as an alternative, there are some car dashcams with a 30-second running record - you hit a button and it records T - 30 seconds to now. No idea how low power they might be, but could be triggred externally?
[12:22] <Hix> had considered dash cams, but it would mean pulling them apart to remove the IR filter.
[12:22] <gordonDrogon> tweaking - depends on how much a Linux expert you are - I'm guessing not much as you're asking ... however I did it by hacking the init.d scripts running under sysV init rather than systemd.
[12:24] <mfa298> systemd has some tools that can show what thigns take time during boot which might help with trying to speed up boot
[12:24] <Hix> Thanks, that gives me some things to read up on. I've got some experience with linux, though I'm not an expert. Happy hacking away with things though.
[12:25] <Hix> cheers mfa298
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[12:36] <gordonDrogon> the bootloader and kernel itself is relatively quick - typically under 2 seconds before init (whatever flavour of init you use) gets going - after that, it's dull, slow, boring - configure keyboard, check the disks, get the network going, set the clock - lots of admin stuff needed to make a kernel usable...
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[12:39] <Hix> cool, this should give me enough to be able to have an idea as to what i need to be learning.
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[12:44] * Drzacek thinks that removing systemd should be step 1 in tweaking
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[12:46] <mfa298> in theory systemd should be quicker than sysvinit as it does things in parallel, although if it's a pi1/Zero that might not make a huge difference as there's only 1 cpu core
[12:47] <Drzacek> In theory, my experience shows me that it is usually just as fast sysv
[12:48] <Drzacek> then again, I run on single core machines, sometimes on dual cores
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[13:07] <ShanShen> Good morning, RPi users! Rainy here in eastern Canada. How's life where you are?
[13:08] <Habbie> surprisingly sunny here in central .nl :)
[13:08] <Habbie> good afternoon :)
[13:09] <ShanShen> Afternoon. :)
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[13:11] <Habbie> :)
[13:12] <Spaulding> It's cloudy here in London ;)
[13:13] <gordonDrogon> dull in normally sunny Devon.
[13:14] <ShanShen> Habbie , do you eat chocolate sprinkles on toast sometimes?
[13:14] <BurtyB> it's not bad in Newark
[13:14] <Habbie> ShanShen, my wife does it every morning
[13:14] <Habbie> ShanShen, i don't
[13:14] <gordonDrogon> and now we return to our regular program after the world weather update is over ....
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[13:14] <ShanShen> Spaulding, how often does that happen, the cloudiness? :)
[13:14] <gordonDrogon> Mmmm. chocolate sprinkles. Salt liquorice too.
[13:15] <Habbie> gordonDrogon, we don't put those on toast in general though ;)
[13:15] <Spaulding> ShanShen: i think you know the answer ;)
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[13:15] <ShanShen> LOL.
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[13:15] <Spaulding> but yesterday was 21C and it was sunny for the whole day long!
[13:15] <Lartza> gordonDrogon, You like salty liquorice??
[13:15] <ShanShen> Darn, now I want chocolate sprinkles.
[13:15] <Lartza> And are not from scandinavia or Finland?
[13:15] <Lartza> :D
[13:16] <Habbie> Lartza, or .nl!
[13:16] <gordonDrogon> any liquorice, but I remember some nice stuff last time I was in .nl.
[13:16] <Lartza> I mean I like salty liquorice but I'm from Finland so
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[13:17] <ShanShen> Is salted liquorice a common thing in Finland too, Lartza ?
[13:17] <Lartza> Very
[13:17] <gordonDrogon> I do claim viking ancestry though.
[13:18] <gordonDrogon> so maybe there's something in that ...
[13:18] <Lartza> Finns are not vikings :(
[13:18] <Lartza> I can't claim that
[13:18] <Lartza> :D
[13:18] <ShanShen> I am lucky, there is a Dutch import store in my city. I can get chocolate sprinkles anytime my wife lets me.
[13:18] <ShanShen> ;)
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[13:19] <gordonDrogon> it's a funny old world.
[13:19] <Lartza> Why not just a chocolate spread?
[13:19] <Habbie> why not both
[13:19] <gordonDrogon> have you checked the ingredients in your average "chocolate flavoured" spread?
[13:19] <Habbie> gordonDrogon, (1) sugar (2) oil
[13:19] <gordonDrogon> or the other way round ...
[13:20] <Habbie> if you're lucky
[13:20] <gordonDrogon> but chocolate (and hazelnut) comes a long way down ...
[13:20] <ShanShen> Remember when Nutella was being branded as healthy? LOL
[13:20] <gordonDrogon> was it?
[13:20] <Habbie> ShanShen, was? still is
[13:20] <gordonDrogon> must haver missed that ...
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[13:21] * gordonDrogon checks a jar..
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[13:21] <gordonDrogon> intersting - it's billed a sa hazelnut spread with cocoa ..
[13:22] <gordonDrogon> so not a chocolate spread.
[13:22] <Habbie> yes
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[13:22] <brainzap> I have script that changes the network settings, but another app crashes when I do this. What is the common way to solve this.
[13:22] <gordonDrogon> hazelnuts make up 13% of the mix and are No. 3 on the list after sugar and ground up baby orang-utans .. (palm oil)
[13:23] <gordonDrogon> brainzap, don't change the network settings ...
[13:23] <brainzap> I must insist on it
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[13:24] <gordonDrogon> work out why the other app. crashes and how to work round it then.
[13:24] <brainzap> makes sense
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[13:28] <ShanShen> Thanks for the chat, all, while #weatherandnutella was down. :)
[13:28] <Habbie> lol
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[13:36] <BurtyB> only 3/7 of my Pi Zero W boot with rpiboot :'(
[13:36] <Hix> gotta say that plot function in systems is really useful.
[13:36] <Hix> *systemd
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[13:55] <phil42> i would use nutella if it had no palm oil, that stuff is nasty
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[13:56] <phil42> that guy was tending his palm oil when the snake ate him
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[14:28] <kerio> Velizar: tmpfs doesn't preallocate the space
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[14:39] <Emil> Velizar: do not play with that block
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[15:03] <kaosine> yay! I found the pinouts for a snes cartridge ^_^ http://pinouts.ru/visual/gen/CartridgeSnes.jpg
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[15:04] <Habbie> you plan to read it with a pi?
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[15:07] <kaosine> yep
[15:07] <Habbie> cool
[15:07] <kaosine> going to hopefully either buy the retrode connectors to slot in to it or try and make my own >__>
[15:08] <k\o\w> there's code for that here https://github.com/sanni/cartreader
[15:08] <k\o\w> I got 10 connectors for $25 on aliexpress
[15:08] <Habbie> k\o\w, oh neat
[15:08] <kaosine> (that's if I can figure out how I'll do it the way I imagine)
[15:09] <kaosine> k\o\w: yeah not surprised but I was imagining getting into actually using my soldering iron and amking something custom so that it's like a big gameboy basically (with shoulder buttons tacked on)
[15:09] <k\o\w> timing is fairly critical for these types of things, might be hard to do with gpio
[15:09] <uniqdom> Hello, I need to disable ntp. I used the command s"ystemctl disable systemd-timesyncd.service" and "sudo apt-get remove ntp", but somehow, after a poweroff (I have disconnected the microUSB power cable, and ethernet cable for 10 seconds) the RPI still has access to the time. How could it be knowing the time?
[15:09] <Habbie> uniqdom, is it the right time or is it off by 20-30 seconds?
[15:10] <kaosine> k\o\w: the whole thought process is to take what retron5 does and take it on the go basically
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[15:10] <k\o\w> like those gameboy pi projects
[15:10] <kaosine> yeah minus the not being able to used the real thing
[15:10] <uniqdom> Habbie, do you mean that it just store the last known time? I will check that...
[15:10] <k\o\w> I'm working on something similar with an FPGA because the rpi is terrible and emulation is terrible
[15:11] <Habbie> uniqdom, yes, there is a package that does that on shutdown
[15:11] <kaosine> I don't know I've heard of things from snes era and early working decently k\o\w
[15:11] <Habbie> uniqdom, fake-hwclock
[15:11] <Habbie> uniqdom, why do you want your time to be wrong btw?
[15:11] <kaosine> earlier*
[15:11] <k\o\w> decent = worse than a snes
[15:12] <kaosine> well from what I've seen it's pretty smooth though....by the time I bought a "frontlight" screen for one of my gba's I couldn't just done this XD
[15:12] <k\o\w> it does look convincing, but there is lag
[15:13] <kaosine> can't be any worse than the retron5
[15:13] <k\o\w> retron is terrible too
[15:13] <kaosine> Only reason I have it is to play imports I've gotten XD
[15:13] <uniqdom> Habbie: This RPI will not have Internet access, so I need to set the system time from a GPS. I need to check if my program to set the time is working.
[15:13] <Habbie> uniqdom, understood
[15:13] <k\o\w> get a $10 import adapter for your SNES
[15:14] <kaosine> k\o\w: those don't allow for patches though from what I've seen though...
[15:14] <k\o\w> everdrive then
[15:14] <k\o\w> or a nintendo flash cart
[15:14] <kaosine> eh I still think I'd be better of making this though...
[15:15] <k\o\w> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Power_(cartridge)
[15:15] <k\o\w> if you want lag, sure
[15:15] <kaosine> From what I've seen it's not that bad, whatever lag there is on the retron I don't notice, and I doubt I'd really notice much lag XD
[15:16] <k\o\w> you wouldn't notice it unless you tested next to a SNES, but it's there, that's just the nature of current emulators
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[15:17] <uniqdom> Habbie: you were right... didn't know that fake-hwclock exist. Thanks :)
[15:17] <Habbie> uniqdom, np
[15:18] <Habbie> uniqdom, i recall systemd might also have such a feature, but you'll find out :)
[15:18] <uniqdom> ty
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[15:22] <kaosine> k\o\w: I can only see them choking on carts with super special chips(I.E. the sfx in starfox) as I doubt many things can handle those special ones XD
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[15:22] <k\o\w> there are some exceptional snes cart, sure
[15:23] <k\o\w> it presents a great opportunity to challenge yourself actually
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[15:23] <k\o\w> people have overclocked the processor on the starfox carts to provide a better framerate than what we had as kids
[15:23] <k\o\w> so for the ultimate SF experience, you'd want a dedicated starfox cart with these mods
[15:24] <kaosine> I honestly skipped the snes generation as a kid(we had a NES but skipped to N64 then to Wii) XD
[15:24] <k\o\w> what you're describing requires a starfox cart also, right?
[15:24] <k\o\w> I'm just saying don't waste a perfectly good cartridge game on an emulator
[15:24] <k\o\w> that's what roms are for
[15:24] <kaosine> well I was just saying that would be the place where I could see there definite lags anyways
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[15:25] <kaosine> That seems to be the one thing most emulators haven't quite got exactly right from what I can tell and seen)
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[15:25] <k\o\w> I love emulation and grew up on it, but now I can afford $150 or so for the original hardware and flash carts, it provides the best experience with the least lag, and I play better as a result
[15:26] <kaosine> well but then you have some old games that are really bad at allowing you to pick up where you left off, and if they aren't the saves only work outside a dungeon which sucks
[15:26] <k\o\w> the price is reasonable and the experience is better, it's a no brainer to me :)
[15:27] <k\o\w> save states
[15:27] <kaosine> original consoles don't have that, which is why I want to make this somehow XD
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[15:27] <k\o\w> save states are possible in many cases
[15:27] <k\o\w> nes everdrive does them natively
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[15:28] <k\o\w> snes has a piece of hardware for save states
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[15:28] <kaosine> yeah but I hate my nes....it's the original vcr looking one we got and holy crap is it bad at keeping up with use....XD
[15:29] <k\o\w> some people consider it a sweet challenge and just deal with it :3
[15:29] <k\o\w> glitchy NES can be fixed by clipping 1 pin
[15:29] <kaosine> it's more my pins get out of shape fast
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[15:32] <kaosine> even without use for 5 years(since it was about that long before I really started getting into collecting) those things were out of shape....if they work now that'd be a miracle since I left that at my dad's house XD
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[15:35] <doomlord> still no GPU compute for the RPI ?
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[15:39] <shiftplusone> doomlord: Could you elaborate?
[15:40] <doomlord> opencl or compute shaders
[15:40] <doomlord> (i guess you can hack neural nets in pixel shaders)
[15:41] <shiftplusone> idk about opencl, but the QPU and a shader compiler are wide open for anyone to use.
[15:41] <shiftplusone> " The hardware isn't quite capable enough to be exposed as OpenCL or GL compute shaders (some research had been done into this, and the designers' conclusion was that the memory acccess support wasn't quite good enough to be useful). That leaves you with writing VC4 shaders in raw assembly, which I don't recommend."
[15:42] <shiftplusone> source: http://anholt.livejournal.com/48404.html
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[15:44] <lord4163> hm my headless rpi just didn't respond anymore
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[15:45] <MaekSo> you wouldn't respond anymore either if you were headless
[15:45] <MaekSo> (to be fair)
[15:45] * shiftplusone thinks people who run headless without serial access or the ability to hook up a monitor and keyboard to check what's going on are doing it wrong.
[15:46] <lord4163> shiftplusone: Okay, great.
[15:46] <MaekSo> there's plenty of reasons to not be able to do that....chief among them not caring that much what your pi is doing and then changing that situation when it is required
[15:46] <shiftplusone> (that was a suggestion to get a serial adapter for troubleshooting, not a snide useless remark)
[15:47] <lord4163> shiftplusone: well I expect it to work. It had an uptime of like two years.
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[15:49] <shiftplusone> Yup, and if there was a way of connecting, there would be a small chance of finding out what happened and how to prevent it in the future.
[15:49] <Twist> lord4163: that's very impressive for a pi
[15:49] <shiftplusone> Do you have persistent log enabled?
[15:49] <shiftplusone> *logs
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[15:50] <shiftplusone> (in /etc/systemd/journald.conf)
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[15:50] <lord4163> Twist: I didn't actually track it, may have rebooted it, but it has been powered on for pretty much two years though.
[15:51] <lord4163> shiftplusone: Oh no, I'm not that fancy dude. Not running Jessie.
[15:51] <shiftplusone> maybe there's still something useful in /var/log/
[15:51] <Twist> lord4163: they have an internal watchdog timer available
[15:51] <shiftplusone> It's more likely that the network connection dropped for whatever reason, rather than the pi is actually locked up.
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[15:52] <lord4163> shiftplusone: No, networking was fine.
[15:52] <Twist> could be many things.. I've had pis just randomly corrupt their SD cards
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[15:52] <Twist> Or fill them
[15:52] <shiftplusone> 'was'
[15:52] <lord4163> It has 11 GB of free space :)
[15:52] <shiftplusone> everything was fine though
[15:52] <Twist> THey do pretty well for a $20ish educational toy
[15:53] <lord4163> Transfer to device 6 endpoint 0x1 frame 2019 failed - FIQ reported NYET. Data may have been lost.
[15:53] <Twist> but they're not reliable servers by any stretch of the imagination
[15:53] <shiftplusone> Twist: why not?
[15:53] <kaosine> Twist: not unless you raid them together I'd think XD
[15:53] <shiftplusone> They're running on the ISS just fine without any special hardening
[15:53] <lord4163> Twist: Right, but it does fine at home, just running DNS, ZNC
[15:54] <kaosine> heck seagate even has harddrives that are compatible with it(which makes me wonder how many of those you could use in junction together before the pi says nope XD
[15:54] <Twist> shiftplusone: lack of fault tolerant power comes immediately to mind. sd card storage also.
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[15:55] <shiftplusone> Well yeah, that applies to 'real' servers too. That's why UPS and RAID are a thing.
[15:56] <lord4163> Yeah, mine is hooked up to a UPS :P
[15:56] <shiftplusone> Sorry if I am coming off as argumentative. I'll get my coat.
[15:57] <lord4163> So fucking sick of reflashing and installing and configuring everything after each power outage.
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[15:57] <Twist> Hence the availability of those things in chassis and onboard for servers. But are you really taking the position people should use a PI in a high availability or otherwise critical scenario?
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[16:00] <shiftplusone> Twist: not telling anyone what they should do, but I wouldn't rule it out as a toy or inherently less reliable. Just have to be sensible about the use case and see if it fits in the particular scenario in question, keep in mind the real limitations that exist and mitigate potential problems.
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[16:02] <Habbie> lord4163, please mind the language
[16:03] <Twist> lord4163: #raspberrypi is also an educational toy. :D
[16:04] <lord4163> Twist: Right, but it was the SD card that was the problem.
[16:05] <lord4163> Twist: If you experience problems with corruption, then you're most likely having a bad SD card. After I RMA'd the SD card it worked fine.
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[16:07] <Twist> lord4163: heh.. we had one in the shop near a dust collector. We zorched a half dozen SD cards before thinking maybe we should power off a different circuit.
[16:07] <Twist> switched to PoE.. it's been solid ever since.
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[16:08] <Pennth> sd cards are tetchy, thank goodness they're also cheap now
[16:08] <Twist> Sadly, they're the only thing that works as a boot volume.. unless I've missed a recent change allowing boot from USB
[16:08] <Pennth> Of the five or six cell phone disasters I've had in the last decade, all but one of them were card related
[16:09] <Pennth> No, I just mean that you have to test cards on multiple systems sometimes, and try new cards jic
[16:10] <Pennth> If three cards fail in your pi, it's the pi, but until then it's probably the card
[16:11] <shauno> Pennth: you've missed a recent change allowing boot from USB ;) (yarly, but only on pi3; https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/bootmodes/msd.md )
[16:11] <shauno> and pxe, just to prove that pigs can fly
[16:11] <jiffe> so raspberry pi has its own linux kernel line outside of the main kernel source?
[16:12] <Twist> shauno: Niiice.
[16:12] <Twist> shauno: I'll have to play with that this weekend.
[16:12] <kaosine> k\o\w: also the other reason for wanting to make this: I'm about to go off to uni and I'd rather take a custom piece of hardware like that that I could easily plug in to a tv rather than bringing my room up there :P
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[16:14] <Pennth> jiffe, there are some broadcom video drivers that haven't been fully open sourced, so there's a separate kernel module for that, Plus it's ARM.
[16:15] <Pennth> Pretty much every ARM-based dev board (Pi, Beagle, Odroid) has some custom features that require kernel tweaks.
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[16:16] <Pennth> and for somthing small with limited memory, you really want an optimized kernel rather than a desktop monolith
[16:17] <Pennth> https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux
[16:17] <mfa298> jiffe: I believe there are efforts to get as mcuh of the Pi's stuff into mainline, but as Pennth just said pretty much all arm boards start off with a non mainline kernel, most then never update it (so are stuck on 3.something.old, unlike the Pi)
[16:18] <shiftplusone> jiffe: yes, but it's very close to upstream now. There's nothing in downstream that you wouldn't want.
[16:18] <shiftplusone> nothing to do with open vs closed source
[16:18] <shiftplusone> it's more the FIQ stuff that makes USB work properly that's not upstreamable.
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[16:21] <jiffe> ah cool
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[16:27] <shauno> a little late, but I don't really consider fault-tolerant power the pi's fault. if you're going to call it mission-critical, you don't power it off a phone charger
[16:28] <shiftplusone> heh
[16:28] <shiftplusone> I think the same goes for the point about SD cards.
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[16:29] <kaosine> that's why WD has pi drives anyways XD
[16:30] <shauno> I was toying with a seimens powersupply on wednesday. it was fantastic. we actually had difficulty trying to replicate a condition that'd make it stutter, and our lab is built to let smoke out of UPSes
[16:30] <shiftplusone> shauno: which supply is that?
[16:30] <shauno> a din unit, siemens "logo!" something
[16:30] <shiftplusone> ah
[16:31] <shiftplusone> so not a phone charger then >.>
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[16:31] <Pennth> I use a powered USB hub as a supply for my Pis.
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[16:31] <Velizar> What is the default block size of Raspbian's root partition?
[16:32] <Pennth> I can't justify a full powered benchtop supply in my tiny study. Maybe when I can afford a house :)
[16:32] <IT_Sean> affording a house means you won't be able to afford the things you want in it.
[16:33] <shiftplusone> Block size: 4096
[16:33] <Velizar> ty
[16:33] <shauno> shiftplusone: something like http://uk.farnell.com/siemens/6ep1311-1sh12/psu-din-rail-5v-6-3a/dp/1340495
[16:34] <shiftplusone> ah, still a 5v supply, nice.
[16:34] <shauno> I mean, obviously there has to be sensible answers in between that and a 50cent shenzen-special phone charger
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[16:35] <shiftplusone> I wonder what Mythic power their pi servers from.
[16:35] <redrabbit> you can get power supplies for any A from alibaba
[16:35] <redrabbit> they're chea^p
[16:35] <redrabbit> aliexpress*
[16:35] <shiftplusone> ...
[16:36] <redrabbit> i mean not phone chargers. actual PSUs
[16:36] <shiftplusone> like the ones commonly used for 3d printers?
[16:37] <redrabbit> there's tons of 5V psus
[16:37] <redrabbit> its barebone circuits
[16:37] <redrabbit> you may have to solder stuff/add a box
[16:37] <shiftplusone> ah, I used one of those to fix a C64 power supply
[16:37] <redrabbit> some come with screws to attach the cords
[16:37] <redrabbit> witch is handy
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[16:43] <redrabbit> also have some 2xUsb out ugreen phone chargers
[16:43] <redrabbit> they are really good to power pis
[16:43] <redrabbit> tbh, only the pi3 really needed a strong psu in my experience so far
[16:44] <redrabbit> the rest is fine with any psu, i guess i dont have really crap psus handy
[16:44] <redrabbit> my pi3 doesnt even have a proper psu, its powered from a passthrough of a fat power pack
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[16:51] <Chillum> battery usb power banks are probably a better source for rpis than most cheapo wall warts
[16:51] <Chillum> cleaner voltage output
[16:52] <oq> uhh
[16:52] <Chillum> looking on the scope I see most usb power chargers have strong 60hz ripple
[16:52] <Chillum> while battery packs give much smaller higher freq ripples
[16:53] <BurtyB> works fine until you need to charge it and can't whilst it's powering the pi heh
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[16:55] <SpeedEvil> 'high frequency ripples' don't matter at all.
[16:55] <SpeedEvil> As long as it's within USB spec.
[16:55] <SpeedEvil> Cheap USB PSUs may not be in spec.
[16:55] <SpeedEvil> I've never seen a decent charger with appreciable ripple.
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[16:58] <shauno> most the problems I have with chargers are simply that their voltage isn't constant across their output. so you can find 5v 2.4A supplies that don't output 5V at 2A - the voltage will start dipping as they reach their limits
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[16:58] <redrabbit> BurtyB: if you have a proper power pack you can
[16:58] <redrabbit> most suck at this though
[16:59] <ali1234> at 2A the cable becomes a problem as well
[16:59] <ali1234> a regular USB cabe won't cut it
[16:59] <redrabbit> i get short and thick cables
[17:00] <redrabbit> for all battery operated gear
[17:00] <redrabbit> less losses
[17:00] <ali1234> you can buy special charging cables. the ones i have work well
[17:00] <Chillum> ya cables are an issue, some of the cheap ones use infinity gauge wires
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[17:00] <redrabbit> i get mines from aliexpress for dirt
[17:00] <Chillum> like they line up the copper atoms one by one hehe
[17:00] <BurtyB> redrabbit, that would be great if I could just buy a "proper" one
[17:00] <redrabbit> they are the same as the 8$ cables on amazon
[17:00] <Habbie> Chillum, higher gauge = narrower cable?
[17:00] <Chillum> yes
[17:00] <redrabbit> BurtyB: 2sec im giving you the reference
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[17:01] <Chillum> this page has some nice tables: http://goughlui.com/2014/10/01/usb-cable-resistance-why-your-phonetablet-might-be-charging-slow/
[17:01] <ali1234> https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00T0DW3M6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[17:01] <Chillum> you can search for cables by their gauge
[17:02] <Chillum> many are 28awg or worse
[17:02] <ali1234> those ones also block data
[17:02] <Chillum> you want to be more in the 20-22 range
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[17:02] <shauno> I've always struggled with that. bigger number = smaller wire always seemed counterintuitive
[17:02] <redrabbit> BurtyB: RAVPower 26800mAh
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[17:02] <redrabbit> i have this one, very happy with it
[17:02] <Chillum> I cant' stand ones that block data, I always end up trying to use them for something that needs data
[17:02] <redrabbit> i got them for cheap as well, just got to dig a bit
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[17:03] <redrabbit> around 35$
[17:03] <Chillum> shauno: indeed, in metric we just measure the cross sectional area in mm2
[17:03] <redrabbit> they sell at ridiculous prices at some places
[17:03] <Chillum> but wire size seems to be an area where american measurements dominate
[17:04] <Inky_> on my rpi 3 the red led is on when i power it with a 5V 2A power supply (taken from my samsung tablet)
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[17:04] <redrabbit> you cant turn off the red led its hard wired
[17:04] <Inky_> but with a 5V 1A there is no red light. i thought the red light indicated undervoltage?
[17:04] <redrabbit> means its under powered
[17:04] <Inky_> redrabbit: i dont understand what it indicates
[17:04] <redrabbit> like, badly
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[17:05] <Inky_> redrabbit: what means that? if the red light is ON it is underpowered? or if it is OFF?
[17:05] <redrabbit> does it even works ?
[17:05] <redrabbit> minimum for rpi3 is 2.5A
[17:05] <Inky_> redrabbit: like a charm with either power supply (i dont have any peripherals though, just connected to router through ethernet)
[17:05] <redrabbit> that is odd !
[17:06] <Inky_> 2.5A isnt the minimum
[17:06] <redrabbit> i mean that the red led is off
[17:06] <ali1234> Inky_: it is impossible for the pi to operate if it is under current
[17:06] <redrabbit> if you dont use it to full capacity and dont plug anything maybe
[17:06] <ali1234> it will always draw as much current as it needs
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[17:06] <ali1234> but current and voltage are related
[17:06] <redrabbit> rpi3 working like charm with led red off
[17:06] <redrabbit> that's a first
[17:06] <ali1234> so if the pi draws more current than the power supply can produce, then the voltage will drop instead
[17:07] <Chillum> my media box often has the light off when the GPU is on
[17:07] <Chillum> but it works
[17:07] <ali1234> so the warning measures voltage
[17:07] <Chillum> though it almost never writes to the microsd
[17:07] <ali1234> the light goes out if voltage goes below about 4.7V
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[17:07] <Chillum> the biggest issue with undervoltage I have sound is memory card corruption
[17:07] <Chillum> s/sound/seen/
[17:07] <Inky_> ali1234: with the 5V 1A supply, without peripherals i can do anything on it and it works without issues
[17:07] <redrabbit> never had corruption, ever
[17:07] <redrabbit> lucky rabbit
[17:08] <ali1234> Inky_: "2.5A minimum" isn't really true
[17:08] <Chillum> I find if it is a mostly read and rarely write system it does okay with undervoltage
[17:08] <Inky_> so, what exactly does red light OFF or ON mean?
[17:08] <Chillum> 2.5A is plenty is more like it
[17:08] <redrabbit> if you go buy a psu for a pi3 would be silly to get less
[17:08] <ali1234> fun fact: the micro USB connector is only rated for 2A max :)
[17:09] <Chillum> I think the 2.5A figure assumes you are running the 4 cores at 100%, the GPU at 100% and have a full compliment of USB devices
[17:09] <redrabbit> theses connectors have been abused
[17:09] <ali1234> when i charge my pirover from the official 2.5A power supply the connector gets quite warm
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[17:09] <ali1234> Chillum: yes
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[17:10] <ali1234> if you max everything out it would probably hit 3A
[17:10] <Chillum> don't forget the 200mA fan on the 5V line!
[17:10] <Chillum> hehe
[17:10] <Chillum> to cool the microusb port ;)
[17:11] <Chillum> I like the pi zero, 80mA
[17:11] <Inky_> i just tried powering my rpi 3 with 0.7A and it works fine
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[17:11] <shiftplusone> a fan? why not a pump and the refrigerated cooling thing crazy people do?
[17:11] <Chillum> shiftplusone: submerge it in mineral oil
[17:12] <shiftplusone> at least
[17:13] <BurtyB> redrabbit, ta (for the link), I'll take a look
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[17:34] <redrabbit> a small heatsink doesnt hurt though
[17:34] <redrabbit> especially when in a small box
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[17:35] * petn-randall doubts anyone would hit the thermal limits on a RPi3 under normal conditions.
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[17:36] <redrabbit> it just will throttle way quicker
[17:36] <redrabbit> poorer perfs and more power used
[17:36] <redrabbit> cold gear uses less amps
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[17:38] <shiftplusone> without any cooling, it's not too difficult
[17:38] <petn-randall> redrabbit: You have tried hitting the thermal limit?
[17:39] <redrabbit> yes
[17:39] <redrabbit> it stales around 82°C
[17:39] <kaosine> redrabbit: I'd think that's also why you put a case on it that has air holes for heat to escape anyways >_>
[17:39] <redrabbit> and the clock goes down
[17:39] <redrabbit> holes, yeahs
[17:40] <redrabbit> kaosine: doesnt make an argument againts using heatsinks
[17:40] <redrabbit> cause there is none that is really valid lol
[17:40] <redrabbit> do you need one ? no
[17:40] <redrabbit> do they help ? yes
[17:40] <kaosine> yeah but it helps a little I'd think....I'm only about to get into doing something with one despite people saying to just use the real consoles XD
[17:41] <kaosine> (kinda hard to justify taking consoles that are getting expensive to replace vs a modded pi ha ha)
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[17:41] <redrabbit> sometimes, you got to listen to people.. sometimes not
[17:41] <redrabbit> :D
[17:41] <kaosine> when I go to uni that is >_> games I can kinda secure better than consoles
[17:42] <petn-randall> The people that buy heatsinks for RPis are also the same that need liquid cooling for their gaming rig.
[17:42] <redrabbit> yeah 1$ heatsink i feel poor already
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[17:42] <petn-randall> (plus shipping)
[17:42] <redrabbit> at least its copper, so its shiny. can't argue about the looks
[17:42] <redrabbit> shipping included
[17:43] <redrabbit> i can find a kit for the rpi3 for like 60 cents shipping included
[17:43] <redrabbit> so cost is out of the equation
[17:43] <kaosine> I already know how I'm going to do it anyways if I can do it right anyways....I found the snes cartridge pinouts, and pretty sure I could use the plugins from a retrode, along with a ada fruit powerboost 500+ XD
[17:44] <redrabbit> petn-randall: i didnt even considered water for my new build
[17:44] <redrabbit> air ftw
[17:44] <redrabbit> plus pumps are noisy
[17:45] <petn-randall> And a 1kW PSU?
[17:45] <redrabbit> 550w
[17:45] <petn-randall> casual
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[17:45] <redrabbit> olol im so 7331 i run my cheep heatsinkless
[17:45] <redrabbit> :D
[17:46] <shiftplusone> Anyone happen to know what the deal with Nintendo Switch booths running raspberry pis?
[17:46] <kaosine> man I wish I had the money to just upgrade my dell and remote into that thing for gaming XD
[17:46] <petn-randall> redrabbit: You mean 1337?
[17:46] <shiftplusone> Are they actually running and playing games on the pis or are they only used to play demo videos?
[17:46] <redrabbit> 7331 > 1337
[17:46] <redrabbit> that is a fact
[17:46] <redrabbit> :>
[17:47] <methuzla> shiftplusone: where have you seen this?
[17:48] <shiftplusone> Not sure I'll be able to dig up the thread now, but someone posted photos of them booting with the raspberry pi logos at the top.
[17:48] <shiftplusone> on the raspberrypi.org forum
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[17:49] <shiftplusone> ah... just videos
[17:49] <shiftplusone> https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoSwitch/comments/5vu3o5/nintendo_switch_kiosk_powered_by_raspberry_pi/
[17:49] <oq> pis are used all the time for kiosks
[17:50] <methuzla> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=179254&p=1140896
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[17:51] <shiftplusone> that's the one
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[17:54] <methuzla> switch cpu = Octa-core (4xARM Cortex-A57 & 4xARM Cortex-A53) @ 1.020 GHz
[17:54] <methuzla> switch gpu = Nvidia GM20B Maxwell-based GPU @ 307.2 - 384 MHz while undocked, 307.2 - 768 MHz while docked
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[17:55] <methuzla> seems like even a pi3 would be given a workout
[17:55] <methuzla> just videos makes sense
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[17:55] <shiftplusone> yeah, I certainly don't expect it to be running zelda
[17:55] <shiftplusone> (the new one)
[17:56] <ali1234> shiftplusone: demo videos with a simple touch UI (or maybe physical buttons) to select different clips
[17:56] <shiftplusone> got it
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[17:57] <methuzla> be cool if they documented it though. lots of people ask about kiosk projects for pi.
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[17:57] <ali1234> maybe don't do what nintendo did if you want it to work :)
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[17:58] <shiftplusone> Nintendo don't really have a reputation of doing things out of the kindness of their heart, so I am not expecting any documentation from them.
[17:58] <ali1234> based on the screenshot, the SD card died
[17:58] <ali1234> nintendo didn't make that thing anyway, some advertising company did
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[21:05] <binaryplease> Hi, I just ordered one of these: https://www.amazon.de/Kuman-Resolution-Display-Protective-Raspberry/dp/B01FX7909Q/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1490987001&sr=8-7&keywords=raspi+3 Is there a way to get a battery in there to run the raspi? Even better: so that it can be charged without opening the case via usb?
[21:06] <kerio> i don't think there's enough space inside the case tbh
[21:07] <binaryplease> kerio: are there cases that fit a small screen+ battery?
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[21:14] <redrabbit> get a fat power pack with passthrough
[21:14] <redrabbit> you wont get much out of a tiny sized one
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[21:16] <redrabbit> especially with a display
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[21:22] <jancoow> Hi. Even when I do export display:0.0 I still get the error: cannon open display
[21:22] <jancoow> Why is this?
[21:23] <Rickta59> export DISPLAY=:0 maybe
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[21:23] <jancoow> same error :/
[21:24] <Rickta59> might need some more context about your problem
[21:24] <jancoow> Well i'm running raspbian and I'm running the epiphany browser on startup
[21:25] <jancoow> I changed some things to the website but for some reason the website stays blank on the raspberry pi (while it is working in chromium or epiphany on my desktop)
[21:25] <jancoow> I want to debug it and run epiphany in browser
[21:25] <jancoow> in terminal*
[21:25] <jancoow> through ssh
[21:25] <jancoow> but i'm unable to do that :)
[21:25] <Rickta59> where are you running ssh?
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[21:26] <jancoow> on my desktop
[21:26] <Rickta59> raspberry pi desktop or your pc?
[21:26] <mistralol> jancoow: export DISPLAY=:0.0 not display case matters
[21:27] <shiftplusone> If you're trying to use SSH forwarding, that's not how it works
[21:27] <mistralol> jancoow: if you are using ssh remotely just login with ssh -X user@somehost
[21:27] <shiftplusone> if you use the -Y parameter, DISPLAY should be set automatically
[21:27] <jancoow> i'm not trying x over ssh forwarding
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[21:28] <Rickta59> is x running on the raspberry pi?
[21:28] * shiftplusone goes to re-read everything
[21:28] <shiftplusone> ah
[21:29] <shiftplusone> so you want it to run on the 'real' desktop, which you know is running?
[21:29] <jancoow> MM i'm already figured it out. When the pi was in the login screen of (lightdm?) X was not yet running
[21:29] <jancoow> so i couldn't export it to X
[21:29] <jancoow> I guess
[21:29] <jancoow> Its working now :/
[21:29] <shiftplusone> ah
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[21:30] <Rickta59> * pushes the eject button on the coffee holder
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[21:31] <jancoow> @28: SyntaxError: Unexpected identifier 'currentTime' :) found the problem lols
[21:32] <jancoow> I guess this epiphany doesn't like "let" identifiers in JS
[21:32] <jancoow> weird
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[21:36] <shiftplusone> Out of curiosity, why epiphany instead or chromium?
[21:36] <jancoow> faster
[21:36] <jancoow> And I need kiosk mode from terminal
[21:36] <shiftplusone> hm
[21:37] <jancoow> beside that; how can I prevent screen going black?
[21:38] <jancoow> there are a few solutions online but none of them are working
[21:38] <shiftplusone> there's some xset commands for it, IIRC
[21:38] <shiftplusone> which ones did you try?
[21:40] <jancoow> Im directly starting epiphany from a xsession
[21:40] <jancoow> Uhm some config files
[21:40] <jancoow> But i'm failed to use xserver-command because that program isn't installed..
[21:41] <shiftplusone> Looked at this in particular? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Display_Power_Management_Signaling#Setting_up_DPMS_in_X
[21:42] <SpeedEvil> https://github.com/fsufitch/git-gud :)
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[22:17] <sware> anyone know how to fix broken pipe errors when using rsync to transfer files from ubuntu to the pi?
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[22:19] <CoJaBo> sware: i think you need rsync installed on the pi
[22:20] <shiftplusone> it would tell you if that was the problem
[22:20] <sware> thing is it was working fine on the pi side. I installed a new ubuntu vm and now I get the errors. Was hoping someone ran into this before on the ubuntu side
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[22:34] <mistralol> sware: broken pipe means disconnected
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[22:49] <Flynnn> Okay. This is super spooky
[22:49] <Flynnn> I tried epoxying a pi zero a while back. After the epoxy job, the pi would not start. It appeared to be an SD card failure.
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[22:50] <Flynnn> Fast forward to today: I did the same experiment, but masked the SD card with plumber's putty to prevent this from happening.
[22:50] <jancoow> shiftplusone: When I do xset q this is the output https://jancokock.me/f/479b0
[22:50] <Flynnn> During the entire epoxying procedure, the pi was transmitting video data to a computer, and the live stream worked perfectly. So I decided to reboot this pi zero. After reboot, it did not work at all.
[22:50] <Flynnn> So, again, this seemed to be an SD card failure
[22:51] <shiftplusone> jancoow: where did you get 'q' from?
[22:51] <Flynnn> here's the weird thing: I removed this entire second epoxied pi zero from its mould, and tested again, and it worked 100%
[22:51] <Flynnn> Put it back into the mold, epoxied over it a bit more, and today it still works 100%
[22:51] <oq> Flynnn: pic of epoxy pi?
[22:52] <Flynnn> oq: will send it in a few minutes
[22:52] <shiftplusone> hmm.... that's an idea for a dip it episode.
[22:52] <Flynnn> So I decided to try out the very *first* raspberry pi I tried to epoxy. Lo' and behold, IT WORKS FINE!
[22:52] <oq> will the epoxy act as an insultator for heat
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[22:53] <Flynnn> oq: mildly, but not enough to create problems. But the epoxy does get quite hot during its curing process
[22:53] <Flynnn> So, wtf, there's a waiting period after epoxying that I can't reboot my pis, but they work fine until reboot, and after the waiting period, reboot also works?
[22:53] <Flynnn> Are the temperatures somehow shutting down the SD card?
[22:53] <Flynnn> oq: actually, I can't take a picture I am realizing, I am very sorry
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[22:53] <oq> Flynnn: don't worry about it
[22:53] <Flynnn> oq: ipod is quite dead, and out of space to boot
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[23:00] <jancoow> shiftplusone: just testing why it's going on black
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[23:01] <jancoow> it was on the arch wiki
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[23:31] <mnemonic> Flynnn: pics please
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[23:46] <NineChickens> Mum: why did you unplug the printer
[23:46] <NineChickens> Me: everyone screams at me if i unplug the PlayStation, TV or internet
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[23:51] <RoBo_V> motion only click pics.. no video?
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