#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2017-04-03

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[0:12] <Rukus> is there a sound equalizer for raspbian? or if there is, recommendation?
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[0:20] <JuPaname> accéss seedbox gratuit contacter moi en PM free seedbox contact PM
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[0:28] <Psi-Jack> JuPaname: Are you advertising garbage?
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[0:30] <Psi-Jack> Yeah, mass advertising multiple channel.
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[0:32] <stiv> mass spamming always convinces me i need their products and services. especially if done in some weird language
[0:34] <Psi-Jack> Indeed. And how horrible the person is. :p
[0:35] <gordonDrogon> I had to lookup seed box - thought it was plants for springtime...
[0:35] <GreeningGalaxy> you can just mount up another Pi's SD card on a Pi (assuming both Pis are the same model) and chroot into it, right? No need to use proot/qemu-arm?
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[0:40] <Psi-Jack> Hmmmmm... My PIR motion sensor definitely picks up my dogs. heh
[0:41] <Psi-Jack> The's one thing that kinda sucks about the ESP8266. Only one analog pin. heh
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[0:52] <GreeningGalaxy> PIR sensors pick up everything that moves. I'm always astonished at how hard they are to duck under.
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[0:53] <Psi-Jack> Now why would you be sticking under them?
[0:53] <Psi-Jack> Ducking
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[0:53] <GreeningGalaxy> Just playing with one in my lab.
[0:53] <Psi-Jack> Hehe ok
[0:53] <GreeningGalaxy> If I habitually tried to duck under them in other people's buildings, I would be in jail, not on IRC.
[0:53] <kerio> well what if you're a duck?
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[0:54] <Psi-Jack> Yeah. PIR sensors are supposed to be able to detect humans and skip animals. I guess however that requires analog and some logic.
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[1:01] <GreeningGalaxy> I didn't know that, I thought they just detected everything that made a change in IR light level.
[1:02] <GreeningGalaxy> obviously in a mostly derivative-threshold fashion so they don't get tripped by the sun going down etc
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[1:02] <gordonDrogon> the last PIRs I used had a little sensitivity dial.
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[1:08] <Psi-Jack> Oh, fun.. 5 hours after reporting an electrical light flickering issue, the electric company comes by.
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[1:12] <GreeningGalaxy> I wanna try building one of those doppler radar motion detectors. That sounds cool.
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[1:13] <GreeningGalaxy> orrr maybe just buying one from aliexpress because building one would involve a lot of work. :P
[1:15] <Psi-Jack> heh
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[1:16] <GreeningGalaxy> I've heard those ones can see you through walls and around corners, should be fun to play with
[1:17] <Psi-Jack> Well, now I got the HiLetgo module working... heh. I should solder up the Adafruit HUZZAH, and see what good it might be. Looks basically like the exact same chip though. heh
[1:20] <Psi-Jack> Oi.. Yeah, I should've gotten an ESP-32. Built-in hardware acceleration for AWS, SHA-2, RSA, ECC, and even a RNG.
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[1:22] <GreeningGalaxy> I was told there would be a hardware TRNG on my Nucleo. I was lied to.
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[1:23] <GreeningGalaxy> it just hashes the time since boot or something, so if you write a program that just spits out a bunch of "random" numbers, you'll get the same exact numbers every time.
[1:23] <Psi-Jack> Hmm, interesting. The ESP32 would actually be more expensive than a Photon.
[1:25] <Psi-Jack> Then there's the SparkFun, which hsas an LX6 microprocessor, I'm unsure about.
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[1:37] <sware> anyone have any good resources on mmal examples? can't seem to find much
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[2:37] <amorf471> Hello, I'm trying to install libasound2-dev on raspberry pi 2. Is there anyone to help me?
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[2:37] <amorf471> I got unmet dependencies error
[2:37] <HrdwrBoB> well
[2:37] <HrdwrBoB> did you install the dependancies?
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[2:38] <HrdwrBoB> ... or just use apt
[2:38] <amorf471> I got this
[2:38] <amorf471> libasound2-dev : Depends: libasound2 (= 1.0.28-1)
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[2:38] <amorf471> but I have lisasoudn2
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[2:38] <amorf471> libsound2
[2:38] <amorf471> sorry
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[2:41] <amorf471> I used apt-get, and my libasound2 is already the newest one. Could you tell me what else I should do? I'm newbie.
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[2:43] <HrdwrBoB> apt-get update && apt-get install libasound2-dev
[2:43] <HrdwrBoB> ?
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[2:44] <amorf471> yes, I did
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[3:13] <PickledEggs_> anyone running the FreeBSD raspi variant?
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[4:33] <fred1807> any downside / loss of performance in using raspberry1 image (arm6) in raspberry3 ?
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[4:37] <SpeedEvil> I thought it diddn't even boot
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[4:46] <brianx> there are a few files in /boot that must be upgraded to run on a pi3b
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[5:05] <Irishluck83> so i'm thinking of getting a another pi i want to make a vpn which one do you suggest pi3 or pi zero
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[5:07] <GreeningGalaxy> Irishluck83: Pi 3. Networking will be easier.
[5:07] <GreeningGalaxy> You really want a wired connection for a VPN, so the wifi on the new Zero won't help and you'll have to buy an adapter.
[5:08] <Twist> Irishluck83: I'll put in a vote for a used PC and pfsense
[5:08] <Irishluck83> ok
[5:08] <Irishluck83> cause i tried pivpn on a 1st gen and it didn't work
[5:08] <Twist> I've tried using a Pi as a WAP before.. it wasn't great.
[5:09] <GreeningGalaxy> I used my original model B as an AP in my dorm room my first year because the uni's wifi sucked so bad and I only got one ethernet jack. It got the job done, but no, it sure wasn't fast.
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[5:10] <Irishluck83> :)
[5:10] <GreeningGalaxy> and I think the tiny adapter I was using would overheat on me, because any time I tried to use the network for large-throughput purposes like large downloads it would just quit on me and not come back till I rebooted the thing.
[5:11] <GreeningGalaxy> (it could've just needed a replug of the adapter, but on that generation of Pi, replugging the wifi adapter is the same thing as rebooting)
[5:11] <Twist> I'm not sure if it's the case with the 3, but before then the ethernet port was actually hanging off the USB controller
[5:11] <Ivoah> GreeningGalaxy: personal wireless routers are banned at my college
[5:11] <Twist> so the main CPU handles network duties
[5:12] <GreeningGalaxy> Ivoah: oh, they're banned at mine too. They just had no realistic way of finding out that that's what I was doing.
[5:12] <Ivoah> heh
[5:12] <hmoney> usb ports + ethernet is still maxed at 40mb or w/e
[5:12] <Twist> guess what happens when you stick a wifi adapter on that same USB controller and start trying to route across it
[5:12] <Irishluck83> any of you tried pivpn?
[5:12] <Ivoah> They also give incoming freshmen HP printers that default to creating an AP for printing, so if you just name your AP to look like a printer, they can't find out
[5:12] <hmoney> what would a pi3 setup cost? 50-75?
[5:12] <Twist> Irishluck83: No. I recognize there are many things the Pi isn't suited for.
[5:13] <Ivoah> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/MCugRlRc/
[5:13] <hmoney> put 50-75 towards a decent router with a built in vpn function or the ability to install WRT software on it...
[5:13] <Ivoah> so many printers
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[5:13] <Twist> hmoney: depends on how many of the other required components you already have lying around
[5:13] <GreeningGalaxy> It's fun when people leave them unsecured and you can connect to them and print silly nonsense
[5:14] <hmoney> 'people' aka 90% of small businesses -.-
[5:14] <Twist> hmoney: ah. you were making an argument, not asking a question. Carry on.
[5:14] <hmoney> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[5:14] <Ivoah> GreeningGalaxy: yep, somebody did that to mine
[5:14] <Ivoah> because I named it, so it stood out
[5:14] <GreeningGalaxy> lol
[5:14] <hmoney> step 1. buy printer, step 2. change admin password, step 3. forget admin password
[5:15] <hmoney> if you ever need it again, hard reset the printer
[5:15] <Ivoah> The same person then sent the image to another random printer and it happened to be my roommate's
[5:15] <hmoney> your roommate probably sent both of them :x
[5:15] <Ivoah> hmoney: it wasn't him, I know the guy who sent them
[5:16] <Ivoah> The first one he sent to my printer because he thought it was somebody else's, because I named it lewis, and the second was just random
[5:16] <Ivoah> he just happened to get me and my roommate
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[5:19] <GreeningGalaxy> my classmates keep setting passwords on their Pis and then forgetting them, and then yours truly gets to pull out her laptop, mount up the cards, and help them change the password. If you ever want to get yourself an undeserved reputation for being a hacker....
[5:19] <Ivoah> GreeningGalaxy: doesn't sound so undeserved
[5:19] <GreeningGalaxy> It's just chrooting into the thing. physical access is root access, after all.
[5:20] <Irishluck83> thanks for the infor guys
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[5:21] <GreeningGalaxy> it helps that Pis have such easy-to-remove and -interface storage. If this were some BGA eMMC module or something, there'd be no sane way.
[5:22] <Ivoah> GreeningGalaxy: there's probably a way to do it without even chrooting
[5:22] <GreeningGalaxy> probably, but I'm too lazy to learn. chrooting's easy, modifying the shadow file directly sounds less easy.
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[5:23] <hmoney> http://www.mapledyne.com/ideas/2015/8/4/reset-lost-admin-password-for-raspberry-pi
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[5:24] <Ivoah> hmoney: you wouldn't even need to pull the sdcard to change cmdline.txt back
[5:24] <GreeningGalaxy> oooh, I didn't know you could do that
[5:24] <Ivoah> that could be done on the pi after changing the pw
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[5:24] <hmoney> interesting
[5:24] <GreeningGalaxy> yeah, that's kind of odd that they tell you do do that
[5:25] <GreeningGalaxy> well, I'm going to update my how-to guide that I'm making for my classmates
[5:25] <hmoney> what if your pi was set to boot to console requiring login?
[5:25] <hmoney> couldnt edit cmdline.txt then ye?
[5:25] <Ivoah> hmoney: that's what changing cmdline.txt does, it brings you right to a shell
[5:25] <Ivoah> a root shell even
[5:25] <GreeningGalaxy> yeah
[5:25] <hmoney> greeninggalaxy: step 1. print that website out, step 2. profit
[5:26] <Ivoah> from there you can change the password and change cmdline.txt back
[5:26] <GreeningGalaxy> I'm already writing a sizable intro to linux guide for them, this is just an addendum
[5:26] <Ivoah> GreeningGalaxy: if you've got a spare raspberry pi and a USB sd card reader, you could automate the process
[5:26] <hmoney> yeah true
[5:26] <Ivoah> just stick the sd card in the reader, wait a few seconds, and pull it out
[5:26] <hmoney> still how do they keep forgetting their pws
[5:26] <GreeningGalaxy> by being theoretical physics students
[5:27] <Ivoah> then why are they using pis?
[5:27] <GreeningGalaxy> whatever would they do without us experimentalists, eh?
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[5:28] <GreeningGalaxy> required class, experimental physics. It's one of those classes where whenever someone mentions it I jump up and down and go YAY while everyone else goes noooooo
[5:28] <Ivoah> heh
[5:29] <Ivoah> what year are you?
[5:29] <GreeningGalaxy> 3rd
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[5:29] <Ivoah> so, sophomore
[5:29] <Ivoah> no
[5:29] <Ivoah> junior
[5:29] <GreeningGalaxy> Junior
[5:31] <Ivoah> cool, I'm a freshman CS major
[5:31] <HrdwrBoB> I made a trebuchet as my physics project
[5:31] <HrdwrBoB> my recommendation: don't
[5:31] <HrdwrBoB> the physics is actually really hard
[5:32] <GreeningGalaxy> I've been doing research involving Pis for a bit now too. My prof (the very same who teaches experimental) is working with these new silicon photomultipliers for counting photons, and is having me design a counter HAT that generates a very precise timing clock for a repurposed LS7366R counter chip
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[5:33] <GreeningGalaxy> Pretty close to completion on that. I just started building the third and final generation prototype, and we're gearing up to finalize a design and get it printed.
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[5:35] <GreeningGalaxy> HrdwrBoB: which, the projectile motion or the mechanical design?
[5:35] <Ivoah> GreeningGalaxy: sounds fun!
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[5:36] <GreeningGalaxy> wait, trebuchets are the ones that do that swingy rope thing. Okay, that does sound hard, if only because it bears a sickening resemblance to the dreaded double pendulum.
[5:36] <Ivoah> GreeningGalaxy: yeah, trebuchets have the counterweight and sling
[5:38] <GreeningGalaxy> I guess it wouldn't be tooooo hard to find the Lagrangian for that one.
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[5:41] <GreeningGalaxy> Classical mechanics isn't really my thing. I'm glad I jumped off the mech eng boat before I got too far, because quantum is way cooler.
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[5:44] <HrdwrBoB> GreeningGalaxy: yeah basicaslly
[5:45] <HrdwrBoB> because it has the pendulum at the weighted end
[5:45] <HrdwrBoB> and basically the same at the payload end
[5:45] <HrdwrBoB> which makes it really effecient
[5:45] <HrdwrBoB> but hell to actually calculate
[5:45] <GreeningGalaxy> heh
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[9:27] <eliudnir> hi - I have an issue with pivpn where it doesn't work after each reboot until i run 'pivpn -d' and ::: We detected some potential issues with your iptables. <-- answer yes
[9:27] <eliudnir> anyone know how to permanently fix this ?
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[9:41] <Freshenstein> Best OS to use for a Kodi only pi box?
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[9:46] <Habbie> Freshenstein, i recall there are two dedicated kodi images - like openelec
[9:46] <kerio> Freshenstein: probably libreelec
[9:46] <Habbie> Freshenstein, but i have no experience
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[9:48] <kerio> https://libreelec.tv
[9:50] <kerio> don't bother with the "usb sd creator", just grab the image and dd it on a microsd
[9:50] <Freshenstein> Ok. Thanks
[9:51] <Freshenstein> Do I do the disk image to put it on the microsd or just copy the file over?
[9:51] <Habbie> you image it onto the SD
[9:51] <Freshenstein> That's what I thought. Thanks.
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[11:33] <jguillen> Hello everybody
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[11:36] <jguillen> Can anyone recommend me a free android image for a Raspi 1 B+ ?
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[11:36] <Habbie> the only working android image i'm aware of is from rtandroid
[11:36] <Habbie> i don't know if it works on pi1
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[11:37] <flughafen> how many simultaneous bluetooth connections does the rpi3 bluetooth support?
[11:38] <jguillen> flughafen: nope, seems to work only on raspi3
[11:38] <flughafen> jguillen: ?
[11:38] <flughafen> one?
[11:39] <Habbie> i think jguillen meant to respond to me
[11:39] <flughafen> ok.
[11:40] <flughafen> y eah, that's clear now Habbie jguillen
[11:40] <jguillen> Habbie: ooops, sorry xD
[11:40] <jguillen> flughafen: ooops xD
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[13:06] <alexandre9099> hi, i cant run sudo
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[13:07] <alexandre9099> i get "-bash: /usr/bin/sudo: cannot execute binary file: Exec format error
[13:07] <alexandre9099> "
[13:07] <alexandre9099> doing file /usr/bin/sudo gives me "/usr/bin/sudo: ERROR: setuid ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, ARM, EABI5 version 1 (SYSV)error reading (Invalid argument)"
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[13:21] <alexandre9099> no one?
[13:21] <mfa298> alexandre9099: might be one of the libraries it links to is bad, or you've installed from a non pi repo
[13:21] <mfa298> alexandre9099: which model of Pi is this on ?
[13:22] <alexandre9099> 3
[13:23] <mfa298> maybe see what you get from ldd /usr/bin/sudo
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[13:24] <alexandre9099> not a dynamic executable
[13:24] * shiftplusone would bet on SD corruption instead.
[13:25] <alexandre9099> :/ that is not a very good thing to happen :/
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[13:27] <mfa298> alexandre9099: possibly of use, some details from sudo on my Pi2 running raspbian https://gist.github.com/m1ari/b51fc5be3430772f1be3c5c4ee6d16b2
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[13:29] <alexandre9099> and what?
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[13:30] <alexandre9099> the stat output is almost the same
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[13:39] <mfa298> question might be what's different. If you've got a recent image it looks like the access/change date should match the image and modify date probably matches what I've got
[13:39] <mfa298> I'm assuming you've got raspbian on that Pi
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[15:08] <chodjo> hi there, do I need to set something in a raspberry pi in order to keep alive the connection? I power on a raspi, and after a while I try to connect but its unreachable.
[15:08] <drjam> a good question
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[15:13] <shiftplusone> chodjo: how is it connected?
[15:16] <chodjo> shiftplusone: local lan, via switch
[15:16] <chodjo> no router
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[15:16] <shiftplusone> should be solid
[15:16] <shiftplusone> no serial or keyboard and screen you can connect?
[15:17] <chodjo> well, now its reachable
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[15:17] <chodjo> maybe it was a single failure
[15:18] <shiftplusone> look over the logs and see what's going on
[15:18] <chodjo> I was configuring an advanced option in nm
[15:18] <shiftplusone> also check 'sudo vcgencmd get_throttled'
[15:19] <chodjo> shiftplusone, I get throttled=0x0
[15:19] <shiftplusone> that's good
[15:20] <chodjo> well, now it works correctly
[15:20] <chodjo> maybe while configuring advanced ipv4 option "use this connection only for resource over this network" it went crazy
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[15:23] <chodjo> shiftplusone, thank you for your help :)
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[15:23] <shiftplusone> np
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[15:39] <chodjo> how can i share internet to a raspi via ssh tunneling ? Im trying without luck so far
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[15:39] <shiftplusone> define 'internet'
[15:40] <shiftplusone> you can forward individual ports, but the easiest thing to do is to NM's enable connection sharing under ipv4 settings on your PC.
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[15:43] <chodjo> ok, I want to update my raspi through another laptop
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[15:44] <shiftplusone> that's how I do it
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[15:47] <chodjo> shiftplusone, cant find that option in debian jessie... I used to use toxsocks ssh -R port:127.0.0.1:port user@nointernetserver
[15:47] <chodjo> but no luck yet
[15:48] <shiftplusone> Don't know the magic runes off the top of my head to do it that way.
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[15:58] <mfa298> chodjo: you can use the -D <port> option on ssh that makes the ssh daemon look like a socks proxy which may do what you want
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[15:58] <mfa298> but you have to specify the proxy to use in any bit of software that you want using it
[15:59] <chodjo> with export http_proxy=localhost:port ?
[16:01] <Habbie> -D is a socks proxy, not a http proxy
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[16:17] <petn-randall> chodjo: Why not just connect it to your network and update it? It has working Ethernet and wifi on board.
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[16:22] <chodjo> petn-randall, not my raspi 1 model b
[16:22] <petn-randall> Oh
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[16:34] <chodjo> so far, with ssh -R 8080:archive.raspberrypi.org:80 pi@raspberrypi i managed to get to some locations
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[16:39] <leftyfb> chodjo: install sshuttle on your pi
[16:39] <leftyfb> sorry, on your laptop
[16:39] <leftyfb> chodjo: is your laptop running a linux distribution?
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[16:40] <chodjo> leftyfb, yes, debian jessie
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[16:40] <leftyfb> ok, install sshuttle on it
[16:40] <leftyfb> how is your laptop connected to the internet? wired or wireless?
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[16:41] <leftyfb> chodjo: also, why not just connect your pi to the internet via wired or wireless directly?
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[16:42] <chodjo> leftyfb, my laptop is connected via wifi, and i dont have an ethernet connection. I just created a lab with a switch
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[16:43] <leftyfb> chodjo: why can't you connect your pi via wifi?
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[16:45] <chodjo> my pi has no wifi, and even if i had it, i would need to configure university's eduroam configuration
[16:45] <leftyfb> ok
[16:46] <leftyfb> so following along with my method, install sshuttle on your laptop....
[16:46] <leftyfb> run this on your laptop (changing the network variables appropriately): https://www.dropbox.com/s/r6p6u0je12gi1kx/startnat.sh?dl=0
[16:48] <leftyfb> chodjo: I was mistaken, install sshuttle on your pi, then on your pi run: sshuttle -N -r <ip of laptop>
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[16:49] <chodjo> leftyfb, no way of reverse tunnel ?
[16:50] <chodjo> anyway sshuttle seems a nice tool ;)
[16:50] <leftyfb> there is, but this does away with having to configure proxy settings on the pi
[16:50] <leftyfb> unless you want to try to replicate the iptables rules sshuttle creates on the pi
[16:51] <leftyfb> chodjo: of course, I find it hard to believe that debian jessie doesn't have a shared internet tool built into it's network manager
[16:51] <leftyfb> which would negate the need for any of this
[16:52] <leftyfb> unless you're not using NM and just using CLI
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[16:57] <mfa298> normally for internet connection sharing you set it up on the device with internet.
[16:57] <mfa298> it's not something you'd normally setup on the client devices
[16:58] <leftyfb> mfa298: chodjo actually, not sure what I was thinking, but yeah, you don't need the sshuttle command from the pi with that iptables rules script
[16:58] <leftyfb> I did that a while back for some custom stuff I was doing
[16:59] <leftyfb> all you need is that script run on your laptop
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[17:30] <binaryplease> Hi, installed the official raspian minimal (jessie) and need to install the program borgbackup. It doesnt seem to be in the sources. How can I enable jessie-backports? Or ist there a better soruuce for that package I should add
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[17:32] <shiftplusone> There's no backports in Raspbian. You can either build it yourself, or if you're running on an armv7 pi, steal the .deb from Debian.
[17:32] <Psi-Jack> Hmmm.. Question, regarding the RPi-3, like previous RPi models, I'm guessing it has a hardware RNG, doesn't it? bcm2708-rng does not seem to be a loadable module on Raspbian for the RPi3.
[17:33] <shiftplusone> Psi-Jack: might be compiled in
[17:33] <Psi-Jack> Hmmm, yeah, looks like it is. I just grepped dmesg for rng, and found it was loaded.
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[18:22] <hypermist> dont you hate it when the Flirc usb module is more expensive than the controller heh
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[18:32] <MarkB2> Did an update/upgrade on my RPi3 and the sdhc card filled up (8 GB). I need to get into the emergency kernel... but cannot remember how to do it. It involves a jumper somewhere... pins 5 & 6 on the 40-pin header?
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[18:35] <leftyfb> MarkB2: the default raspbian image is only about 4G. There's no way a update/upgrade filled up another 4G of space. Can you move things off temporarily or delete them?
[18:37] <MarkB2> The fool thing panicked and crashed. Tried to reboot.. and all I have is a small blinking cursor at top left of the screen. There were a LOT of extra packages loaded (gtk for one).
[18:37] <MarkB2> I can hold down the SHIFT key and restore the OS from SDHC. But there are a few files I ...really... need to save before going that way.
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[18:38] <leftyfb> yup, lots of extra packages, I'm guessing under 1GB. You must have some other files you copied to it or maybe you never resized the partition on the card to take full advantage of the 8G
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[18:39] <leftyfb> MarkB2: do you have access to a mac or linux computer besides your pi?
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[18:39] <MarkB2> leftyfb: No. At home I do.. but am at work. Next to me is a Window 10 box... but that's been locked down by IT. It won't boot a live system.
[18:39] <shiftplusone> Hm. Are you sure that's what happened? I've filled up my sd card many times, but it was always easily recoverable.
[18:40] <MarkB2> Ran the update... ran the upgrade... and started seeing "out of space on device" messages.
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[18:40] <MarkB2> It was all downhill from there.
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[18:40] <leftyfb> MarkB2: probably because you took up most of the space with your own files.
[18:40] <leftyfb> Again, an update won't take up 4G
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[18:41] <MarkB2> leftyfb: I didn't think an update would take the 200M that was there on Friday!
[18:41] <doomlord> what bandwidth can you transfer through the gpio pins
[18:41] <leftyfb> it might
[18:41] <leftyfb> doomlord: you're doing it wrong
[18:42] <doomlord> maybe, but what?
[18:42] <leftyfb> MarkB2: either way, your best bet is to put the SD card into a computer that can read it (mac or linux) and copy your important files off of it, freeing up space. You could probably chroot into it and fix up the packaging issues.
[18:42] <leftyfb> MarkB2: there's nothing you can do beyond wiping the sd card
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[18:42] <MarkB2> <argh> That one file... <groan>
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[18:45] <MarkB2> leftfb: Yah, I did get a load full of libraries installed. But that last update was a lulu. It was so out of room that bash couldn't auto-complete.
[18:45] <doomlord> i wonder if this chip could appear in a board that just slots into an RPI (e.g. so they dont need to maintain a whole seperate ecosystem like with the parallela) http://www.adapteva.com/announcements/epiphany-v-a-1024-core-64-bit-risc-processor/
[18:45] <mfa298> MarkB2: it's well worth keepign a decent amount of space free (200M isn't a decent amount) most filesystems start to slow down when you've used 80% of the space.
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[18:46] <doomlord> unlike their previous chip it has general purpose IO links as well as inter-chip links
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[18:46] <MarkB2> mfa298: Granted. I can lay hands on a 16 GB card easily. Right now, though, I'd love to get the emergency kernel running to offload that one file.
[18:46] <doomlord> so imagine something like that on it's own board with some camera/motor interfaces, and stuck on a RPI for Wifi etc.
[18:47] <doomlord> wifi, SD card ..
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[18:48] <leftyfb> MarkB2: if there's no space left, an emergency kernel isn't going to help
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[18:49] <mfa298> MarkB2: If you've got a keyboard and monitor attached putting init=/bin/bash into cmdline.txt might give you a root shell you can do stuff with
[18:49] <mfa298> that's from memory so might be slightly off
[18:50] <MarkB2> mfa298: I would ..DO.. that if I could get into it.
[18:51] <mfa298> you can edit cmdline.txt from any computer - that's on the fat partition - unless you're using noobs in which case it mgiht be doing something weird
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[18:52] <MarkB2> mfa298: as above.. the desktop win10 system is locked down. I can't install anything via USB. (and I'm thinking mildly evil thoughts at the local ID department)..
[18:53] <mfa298> MarkB2: you can't even plug a flash drive in to access files, If it;s that locked down you probably shouldn't even have a Pi there unless IT have given permission.
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[18:54] <MarkB2> mfa298: So sez the IT department. But it's needed for work and IT had to bend neck to comply. Unfortunately, it doesn't mean they're going to help me out of this particular jam by allowing me access to the USB ports.
[18:55] <MarkB2> Nope, they're busy laughing. "Hey buddy... you like your little toys? They break easy? Need IT support? hahahaha" <grr>
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[18:55] <leftyfb> MarkB2: or you could be doing work
[18:56] <MarkB2> leftyfb: Why, thank you. The Pi3 does make a good compute engine for what I'm working on. Geeze.
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[19:10] <redrabbit> mount it somewhere and remove stuff
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[19:15] <plum> hi
[19:16] <redrabbit> hi
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[19:21] <MarkB2> <whew> found it.
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[19:22] <MarkB2> I think I'll remove the Mathematica package...
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[19:27] <plum> what is the package name? i'd like to remove it as well
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[19:27] <MarkB2> Try apt-cache search mathematica
[19:28] <MarkB2> It takes regex when searching.
[19:28] <MarkB2> But Mathematica is a nice package...
[19:28] <MarkB2> last I looked, though, it was a little heavy... and I need the space for other stuff.
[19:28] <plum> ahh gotcha
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[19:29] <MarkB2> This is the first time I've ever tripped Recovery mode. There it is, reinstalling everything in sight.
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[19:30] <MarkB2> I could get rid of SonicPi and Scratch, too.
[19:30] <plum> sonicpi?
[19:30] <plum> i didn't even know that was there by default haha
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[19:31] <MarkB2> <heh> Yeah. When I saw mathematica in there, I had a serious mindboggle.
[19:31] <plum> also openoffice/libreoffice suite is on it i think
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[19:32] <MarkB2> Yes.... and they keep updating it. Me, now... think how much more fun it would be if the RPi had a ..sata.. port?
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[19:33] <MarkB2> I did see one web site that talked about loading Raspbian Lite and adding ..just.. enough to make it nicely usable.
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[19:41] <kaosine> MarkB2: well if you can use the rpi's usb's then you *could* use western digitals HDD's on it XD
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[19:42] <MarkB2> kaosine: I do that at home... local computer store sells "last years drive tech" low cost. 320 GB drive for $15.
[19:43] <kaosine> Yeah I was talking about this https://www.wdc.com/products/wdlabs/wd-pidrive-foundation-edition.html#WD3750LMCW
[19:43] <kaosine> about as cheap too XD
[19:43] <MarkB2> Western Digital saw the Model 3 pi's coming.. and didn't miss a beat with the Pi Drives, did they? :-)
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[19:44] <kaosine> those have been out for awhile XD
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[19:44] <kaosine> I just haven't gotten around to doing anything since I have like 2 things at least I want to do with 2 pi's
[19:44] <MarkB2> Did the Pi Drive come out at RPi 2 time?
[19:45] <kaosine> it was on the blog I can't recall when that was though
[19:45] <MarkB2> I'm doing some work with an Intel Joule 570x. The 570x is a quad-core 64_x86 device ... but it costs $200 and is half brain-dead out of the box.
[19:45] <kaosine> last year so pi 3 XD
[19:45] <MarkB2> Add the "required" expansion board for a total of $360 or so.
[19:46] <MarkB2> yeah, thought Pi 3.
[19:46] <kaosine> but it was 314gb when it was announced XD
[19:46] <Zardoz> https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/meet-314gb-pidrive/
[19:47] <MarkB2> I remember that. And the 314 GB... that had me howling with laughter.
[19:47] <kaosine> Give me 6 of them and I'll be happy XD
[19:48] <MarkB2> Big problem with the RPi is all that stuff runs off a single hub.
[19:48] <kaosine> there is that....
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[19:49] <kaosine> MarkB2: but cheap home server XD
[19:49] <MarkB2> Oh gawd, yes.
[19:49] <MarkB2> <heh> OpenSim runs on Pi2's. Runs nicer on 3's.
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[19:50] <brianx> hopefully the 4b will have two usb3 ports. ;-)
[19:50] <kaosine> but it's going to be awhile before that comes out though
[19:51] <kaosine> and I'll be hoping it triples power and stuff XD
[19:51] <MarkB2> Hey, I'm greedy. I want those, a SATA interface, more GPIO, ... and has anyone wished for a 10-Base1G yet?
[19:52] <kaosine> I just need that extended gpio so I can interface real console cartridge slots into it
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[19:55] <MarkB2> There's game emulation software for the Pi3?
[19:56] <kaosine> yeah but I like using the real thing and would be better than my retron5(which is limiting on systems you can do)
[19:56] <kaosine> and you can't exactly play the retron5 on teh go...I mean you could but it'd be awkward)
[19:57] <MarkB2> how about a couple of i2c GPIO chips and pull the binary out of the carts?
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[20:02] <kaosine> MarkB2: not sure I follow(kinda a newbie and probably shooting high on this)
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[20:03] <MarkB2> i2c is a 3-wire interface bus, very popular, and it wouldn't take much code to fake up address and data buses to read out the contents of a cartridge.
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[20:13] <MarkB2> Time to get back to work. Gentlemen, thanks for the help.
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[20:44] <Twist> Well, that's discouraging. I was considering replacing my octopi with a Zero W.. but it seems like networking melts the CPU on the W. Does anyone know if improvement in that area is likely?
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[20:46] <kaosine> Twist: put a heatsink over it....apparently everybody is doing this now
[20:47] <brainzap> the raspberry pi does not have dedicated network, you have to look into different hardware if you need to handle lots of connections
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[20:53] <Twist> brainzap: streaming video from the webcam seems to be enough to kill it
[20:54] <Twist> I'm not terribly surprised.. I used a Pi as a WAP for a while.
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[21:11] <brianx> the pi has been used for some fairly heavy use websites. it should be able to handle a few thousand simultaneous connections for static content only. you need to add a gigabit adapter (only delivers about 300mbps because of the usb bottleneck) and of course it needs to be carefully configured.
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[21:13] <kaosine> huh so there's a guy who figured out how to do what I want via i2c(with what markb2 suggested) but I'd have to figure out how to wire it up to do it as a portable XD
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[21:15] <brianx> the cartridge slot?
[21:15] <mnemonic> i bought a "Lexar High-performance 32gb Microsdxc Uhs-i U3 95mb/s 633x", is it a good microsd to be used in rpi3?
[21:15] <kaosine> brianx: yeah
[21:15] <kaosine> https://github.com/waterbury/SNES-Pi/
[21:16] <brianx> i would have picked spi over i2c because it's several times faster, but to each their own.
[21:16] <RoBo_V> So how is this RPi zero W, good BLE and wireless ? or it is bad wifi as rpi3
[21:16] <brianx> a 32k cartridge isn't that big and you really only have to read it once.
[21:17] <kaosine> brianx: eh I'm still awhile off to doing this anyways and likely to write my own version in java or something(since I'm going to have to be in java for the next few years >_>)
[21:17] <mfa298> RoBo_V: aiui it's the same chip, but differnt antenna
[21:17] <mfa298> then again I've not had much issue with the wifi on the Pi3
[21:18] <mnemonic> brianx: why once? i am starting with rpi
[21:18] <RoBo_V> I had, it was dropping every 2 hour even if i am sitting next to router. So I switched to ethernet.
[21:19] <kaosine> I already know the pinout of snes cartridges since I've found that already, it's the whole process of converting it over now to get it to 1.) read and 2.) allow myself to make inserts to convert to other cartridge formats
[21:19] <RoBo_V> I may try out this new zero W
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[21:19] <kaosine> mnemonic: he was referrring to me
[21:19] <brianx> mnemonic: because those old cartridges were small enough that you could just cache it on sdcard. then when a cartridge is detected, you just read a little bit of it and compare it to the ones you have cached to see if you already have the whole thing.
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[21:20] <mnemonic> kaosine: oh, okay :D
[21:21] <mnemonic> i was thinking he was answering what i asked
[21:21] <brianx> did you ask about a cartridge?
[21:21] <mnemonic> my mistake, i was aking about "Lexar High-performance 32gb Microsdxc Uhs-i U3 95mb/s 633x"
[21:22] <mnemonic> asking *
[21:22] <brianx> yeah, not related to a 32k cartridge
[21:22] <kaosine> I'd love to figure this out as a brain teaser that might take a little bit to do. If I get it to where say I have whatever the biggest cartridge pins and down convert from there I'd probably have a easy conversion
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[21:25] <kaosine> (this is why I say I'm a little off from doing this) I know I could easily rip and play that way, but I'd love to do it to where I have a custom handheld that while the cartridges still work(if I maintain them right) that I'm using those with the saves backed up that way
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[21:26] <kaosine> I know I'm probably going to end up using a DSI based screen in the thing since that looks like the best option to have a nice flat connection in there...
[21:28] <kaosine> brianx: so If I'm using rpi instead what would I connect between the two to read it?
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[21:31] <kaosine> huh weird, looking at the pin diagram it has 62 pins but only uses 46 of them XD
[21:32] <JuPaname> seek unixshell account free thanks PM
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[21:33] <brianx> kaosine: you'd use a port extender to connect all 46 or so used pins.
[21:33] <brianx> ideally organizing them so that the 8 bit data bus is on a single extender and the address bus is on a single extender.
[21:33] <kaosine> http://pinouts.ru/Game/CartridgeSnes_pinout.shtml <- that's the pinout apparently
[21:33] <kaosine> had to disable adds to see the visualization since their ads went right over it >_>
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[21:34] <lopta> JuPaname: Nope.
[21:34] <brianx> wow, 23 bits of addressing. that's a whole lot.
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[21:35] <brianx> enough for 8 megabits.
[21:35] <brianx> err megabytes
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[21:36] <kaosine> brianx: this is the SNES we're talking about some of those cartridges did push pretty big especially Tales of Phantasia...I think that's the largest game or close to it on there
[21:36] <brianx> still, i bet the image has some place for the crc or other identifying information that you can use to tell which cart is installed by just reading a little bit of data and comparing it to the cartridges you already have on sd card.
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[21:37] <brianx> with i2c, reading 8 megabytes could take quite a long time.
[21:37] <kaosine> which explains http://hackaday.com/2013/01/04/turning-a-raspberry-pi-into-an-snes/
[21:38] <kaosine> he had it at 70 minutes first try and then down by factor of two after a adjustment
[21:39] <brianx> so still 35 minutes for just donkey kong.
[21:39] <brianx> definitely want to cache that on sd card.
[21:39] <shauno> there's a fairly small rom header, that's what I'd try to match - http://www.smwiki.net/wiki/Internal_ROM_Header
[21:40] <brianx> ^^ as expected.
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[21:40] <kaosine> shauno: that's what I thought, but I also though there was some carts that don't have that....
[21:41] <kaosine> I mean I'm already going to load up translation patches for some as it is anyways if the cores from retropi/emulation station support that anyways
[21:41] <shauno> I think I'd still default to it. read 32 bytes off the card, see if you can match the header to a file you have. if not, read, say, 4k from $0 and see if you can match that. if not, keep reading
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[21:42] <kaosine> ugh I hope I can manage to go up and buy a pi from a local store tommorrow XD
[21:44] <brianx> shauno: my thoughts exactly. though since you have a cache of all the cards you own, you can find an exact block to read that is unique.
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[21:52] <shauno> I think what I mean is don't try to find a single method that's exhaustive. Otherwise you basically end up reading the whole cart and checksumming it
[21:53] <shauno> so make a small database with the crc of the header, the first 1kb, the second 1kb, maybe 3rd and 4th if it turns out you need them
[21:53] <shauno> then read the header - if it's unique in your db, you're done. if not, read the first 1kb, if it's unique you're done. if it's not, read the next, if it's unique ..
[21:54] <shauno> so you start reading, and give up as soon as it's provable that you've got a unique match. if you never make a match, you read 'till the end and build a match for next time
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[21:56] <kaosine> shauno: yeah I guess that kinda makes sense. I ought to not make this my first project but it'd be nice to figure this out and have it ready to go so all I have to do is pack up the machine I make and some cartridges(a retroduo machine would work if it wasn't for the fact that has no way of translating which is why I'm considering doing this instead XD)
[21:56] <shauno> but that 32-byte header. instead of dismissing it because it'll fail 5% of cases, use it first because it'll give you the fastest answer for 90%+
[21:57] <brianx> or just read each file in the cartridge cache folder at offset 0 and see how much it takes to find a unique pattern. if it's not small enough, try reading at a different offset. repeat until you find an offset that results in a unique pattern that you consider short enough.
[21:58] <brianx> no database needed, just a single offset.
[21:58] <kaosine> IDK having a database that's linked into emulation/retropi sounds like a good idea though(to the point where it checks to see if it's plugged in and errors out if it's not)
[21:59] <brianx> the sd card is so much faster than the port expanders that you can read hundreds of cartridge images in the time it takes to read the same size block over i2c.
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[21:59] <kaosine> I'll be back in a bit I've got to head home....if someone could make a decent way to turn a retrode2 into a pi portable I'd do that :P
[21:59] <shauno> db doesn't need to be overkill. a simple flat file would work for this
[22:03] <brianx> a binary flat file is exactly what the image files are. ;-)
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[22:09] <shauno> right, just a whole lot bigger, on a system that has poor IO (and not a whole lot of ram for caching)
[22:10] <brianx> you only read the parts you need.
[22:10] <brianx> thats why you precalculate the offset that is unique.
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[22:13] <dumle29> Hey there :)
[22:13] <dumle29> Hey there. I made a bash script that takes an image of an SD card, finds the actual used space, shrinks the ext4 partition and lastly the file.
[22:13] <dumle29> basically means you can take small images of your sdcards, instead of files as large as the SD card itself. Is it something people would be interested in?
[22:15] <Rukus> i just installed pixel, and if the pi goes to sleep (or screen turns off), if i catch it immediately, everything comes back on. If i leave it for an extended time, it won't turn the screen back on. I dont have ssh access enabled currently4
[22:16] <Rukus> what can i do about this, other than disabling power saving?
[22:16] <Rukus> is this the place to ask about this, or is there a better channel?
[22:16] <brianx> just wait for someone who knows.
[22:17] <Rukus> cool thxz
[22:17] <kaosine> brianx: I guess I need to learn more programming before I attempt this since I'm a little lost at flat file and some of the rest of that....
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[22:17] <brianx> just a file with the contents of the rom.
[22:17] <brianx> any file that isn't structured is "flat"
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[22:21] <plum> dumle29: that sounds cool! i thought with dd you could take images of the whole card's used space though? i could be wrong
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[22:22] <dumle29> plum: DD takes a bitwise copy. that means you get ALL of the bits on the sd
[22:22] <dumle29> so the full size of the sd
[22:22] <plum> ohhhhh gotcha
[22:22] <dumle29> I'm actually using DD for taking the image initially :)
[22:22] <plum> i for one would love a slimmed down version for backups
[22:22] <plum> :D
[22:22] <dumle29> putting it on github
[22:22] <plum> been doing whole-sdcard backups ever since the 5th or 6th sd card crash
[22:22] <plum> thank you! i'd love to keep up with the project
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[22:26] <dumle29> https://github.com/dumle29/resize_SD_image
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[22:26] <plum> awesome, thank you!
[22:26] <dumle29> When the youtube video is done processing, there'll be a video going through the script in too much detail
[22:27] <plum> sweeeeet. i'm excited to try it
[22:27] <plum> been a while since my last sd backup
[22:27] <dumle29> plum: warning, it's linux only
[22:27] <dumle29> but you seem to be familiar with dd
[22:27] <plum> i prefer it that way :P lol
[22:27] <dumle29> cool :)
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[22:29] <kaosine> brianx: I guess...I'm doing a c++ class now so I'm getting a little refreshed on things. We've just made it up to loops and file reading. I'm doing java over the summer so maybe I'll figure it out then? I'm still trying to find a way to do it with spi though like you suggested since I might be heading up near my university I'm transferring to and be able to pick up pi then since a store near there carries them XD
[22:31] <brianx> as the article you found correctly points out, spi does take a few more wires than i2c, but is quite a bit faster.
[22:31] <plum> lol dumle29
[22:31] <plum> "who mom likes"
[22:31] <dumle29> :3
[22:32] <brianx> the maker in your article did a reasonable comparison and made a reasonable choice based on his criteria. i'd probably go the spi route still though.
[22:32] <plum> oooh some fancy regex you got going on there
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[22:34] <kaosine> brianx: I hope by article you mean the hackaday one or is it what's linked in the readme under the git?
[22:35] <brianx> yes, the hackaday you linked and the article the maker did that was linked from there.
[22:35] <brianx> (at least i think you linked)
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[22:36] <kaosine> well I think that would actaully be this: https://familab.org/2012/12/snes-super-nintendo-emulated-system/
[22:36] <kaosine> 7 pages worth of him detailing it so this might be a good point of reference just have to convert to rpi if it's really that much faster
[22:36] <brianx> yeah, that's the one.
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[22:40] <brianx> i believe the bottleneck in his system is the i2c bus. though, reading a handful of cartridges at 35 mintues each is probably not that big a deal since you don't have to read the whole thing every time you want to play a game.
[22:40] <dumle29> plum: If you try it out, I'd be very interested in hearing if it works :)
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[22:41] <plum> i'll try it tonight when i get home :)
[22:41] <dumle29> cool :)
[22:41] <plum> if you're around irc then i'll let you know, if not i'll catch you next time
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[22:43] <SqrtOfPi> Hi!
[22:43] <SqrtOfPi> I'm connecting many wires to GPIO
[22:43] <SqrtOfPi> maybe 15 or 20 of them...
[22:43] <brianx> Hi 1.77!
[22:44] <SqrtOfPi> Problem: when I want to disconnect everthing, it's long... Do you use GPIO header for that?
[22:44] <SqrtOfPi> brianx :)
[22:44] <kaosine> brianx: yeah...I'll just have to convert what he does on pages 4 and 5 to what rpi would be to dump it.....the only questionable part is how after I get snes working taht I'd get genesis/n64/ gb/c/a / others
[22:44] <kaosine> Pi is exactly 1!
[22:44] <kaosine> sorry it had to come to that XD
[22:44] <kaosine> er 3
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[22:46] <brianx> kaosine: yeah, and note that the i2c drivers in the kernel suck. they're quite a bit slower than the max possible speed. i'm not 100% sure, but i think the ones joan made in pigipo are much better.
[22:46] <kaosine> brianx: pigipo?
[22:47] <dumle29> RPi.GPIO
[22:47] <dumle29> for python I assume
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[22:48] <kaosine> I asume brianx is talking about this http://abyz.co.uk/rpi/pigpio/
[22:48] <kaosine> which is actually written in c
[22:48] <dumle29> ah
[22:48] <brianx> kaosine: pigpio is a library. it does all sorts of gpio stuff and has all sorts of languages that use the api that it exposes. much like gordonDrogon's gpio library but it may have better i2c.
[22:48] <brianx> kaosine: that is the right one.
[22:48] <kaosine> which C I can write with very easily :P
[22:49] <kaosine> -ish
[22:49] <brianx> you don't have to use c to use it.
[22:49] <brianx> there are front end libraries for a bunch of languages.
[22:49] <kaosine> well yeah but I'm a little more versed in the c-based ones right now
[22:50] <brianx> c would be my choice too.
[22:50] <kaosine> especially considering I'm taking a c++ class right now and taking java for the next several years(uni focuses on that in all it's courses when I get up there in the summer)
[22:53] <brianx> i can't tell from joan's pages if she uses the kernel driver or if she writes direct to hardware.
[22:55] <brianx> she seems to be saying that the pi only supports up to 400kbps and not the 1700kbps that the hackaday guy used. so that 35 minutes might really be 150 minutes.
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[23:27] <brianx> viju: that seems to be a recurring thing lately. see if you can use raspi-config to set it to start X automatically on boot.
[23:28] <brianx> that should narrow down if it's an actual failure of X to start or if something isn't working with your startx.
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[23:33] <mnemonic> Do MicroSDXC cards work with the Raspberry pi 3?
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[23:35] <viju> brianx: how long does it take to update all? It's stuck for sometime now after updating the boot options.
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[23:36] <brianx> i've completed download and gotten 18% through the upgrade. i've also not been paying much attention so it's stalled at prompts a few times now.
[23:37] <viju> I am trying to connect through vnc and it shows me empty canvas.
[23:37] <viju> GUI missing
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[23:38] <brianx> that sounds like you're running vnc on a frame buffer and not the real desktop.
[23:38] <leftyfb> viju: you need to use x11vnc
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[23:39] <leftyfb> there's another popular one that I don't remember the name of, but I've been using x11vnc for years now without issue
[23:39] <viju> tightvnc is not good?
[23:39] <leftyfb> viju: only if you are satisfied with your results
[23:39] <brianx> ^^ is a great choice. remove the realvnc installed by default.
[23:40] <mnemonic> i got confused, i bought a 32gb microsdxc, in this website it say about "xc" means 64GB or more... and need special procedure to use with NOOBS...
[23:41] <mnemonic> https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/installation/sdxc_formatting.md
[23:41] <leftyfb> mnemonic: do you need to use NOOBS?
[23:41] <mnemonic> is it a fake microsd?
[23:42] <alexandre9099> a few hours ago i was here because of a error on sudo
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[23:42] <mnemonic> leftyfb: i don´t know, i am waiting it arrive from parcel
[23:42] <alexandre9099> i'll post it again so anyone could give any other solution than changing the SD :/
[23:42] <mnemonic> leftyfb: i will build my first rpi
[23:42] <alexandre9099> well, i cant run sudo on my RPi3, i get "bash: /usr/bin/sudo: cannot execute binary file: Exec format error
[23:42] <alexandre9099> "
[23:43] <leftyfb> alexandre9099: type: df -h .
[23:43] <leftyfb> alexandre9099: does it look like there's no more space on your sd card?
[23:43] <leftyfb> alexandre9099: also try to type: dmesg
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[23:44] <leftyfb> look for I/O or errors
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[23:44] <redrabbit> what about using another computer to mount the card and delete stuff
[23:44] <alexandre9099> leftyfb: the only with arround 100% usage is the external storage :/
[23:44] <leftyfb> redrabbit: we're not there yet
[23:44] <leftyfb> redrabbit: any errors in dmesg?
[23:44] <alexandre9099> the / directory has 34% use
[23:45] <viju> Now I cannot connect to rpi. No route to host.
[23:45] <alexandre9099> nothing about IO errors :/
[23:45] <leftyfb> alexandre9099: what did you do to get to this point?
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[23:45] <alexandre9099> which point?
[23:45] <leftyfb> alexandre9099: broken
[23:45] <viju> Something messed up when I pressed ctrl+c while it was creating symlink
[23:46] <alexandre9099> leftyfb: i dont know, i'm using the RPi as a 24/7 and i was about to use sudo and i got this message
[23:46] <alexandre9099> *24/7 server
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[23:49] <alexandre9099> file /usr/bin/sudo seems to give some non normal output (i dont know what it is suposed to output...): "/usr/bin/sudo: ERROR: setuid ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, ARM, EABI5 version 1 (SYSV)error reading (Invalid argument)"
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[23:55] <brianx> viju: it took about 50 minutes to do the full upgrade.
[23:56] <ngc0202> TIL rpi3 uses µsd
[23:56] <ngc0202> :(
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[23:57] <ngc0202> is it true you can't boot from USB without booting from an SD card and changing a config first?
[23:59] <brianx> ngc0202: on a pi 3b, yes.
[23:59] <ngc0202> that sucks
[23:59] <ngc0202> kind of a weird design choice no?
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[23:59] <brianx> it's an effort to make sure things are stable for as many people as possible.

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