#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2017-04-13

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[0:33] <Psi-Jack> Hmm, yeah.. Soldering with rosin core is definitely quite different than what I'm used to. heh
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[0:42] <plugwash> ya can't beat tin-lead-silver solder with rosin cores
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[0:43] <Psi-Jack> That's pretty much what I got.
[0:43] <Psi-Jack> Well, nevermind.
[0:43] <Psi-Jack> That's what I had originally. hehe
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[0:45] <Psi-Jack> That rosin core stuff just kind of SNAPS down into the contact, unlike the tin/lead/silver which kinda just bobs around on the joint and terminal.
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[0:52] <Psi-Jack> Also seems even harder to get back off, in the case of a small adjustment.
[0:53] <Psi-Jack> Put my header on slliiightly crooked, and forgot to check after the first pin soldered to be able to correct easily.
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[2:01] <Psi-Jack> Just one time using resin core, and I'm pretty much in agreement, plugwash.
[2:01] <Psi-Jack> tin/lead/silver is the only way to go.
[2:02] <Psi-Jack> I just possibly wrecked my RPiZW just trying to remove the last pin which wouldn't desolder the joint for anything!
[2:03] <Psi-Jack> And tore a piece of the silicon off the component right next to the camera port.
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[2:43] <sloth> LETS GO PENS
[2:43] <svm_invictvs> How would you read a flame sensor with a Pi?
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[2:46] <HrdwrBoB> http://www.instructables.com/id/Arduino-Modules-Flame-Sensor/ like that
[2:47] <HrdwrBoB> but with a pi instead
[2:47] <svm_invictvs> wow, I didn't realize a flame sensor actually just runs a current through the flame sensor
[2:47] <HrdwrBoB> https://www.google.com.au/search?q=flame+sensor&oq=flame+sensor&aqs=chrome..69i57l2j69i59j69i60l3.1471j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#safe=off&q=flame+sensor+pi
[2:47] <svm_invictvs> HrdwrBoB Looks like that's a different flame sensor
[2:47] <svm_invictvs> HrdwrBoB The one I have is from a furnace
[2:47] <HrdwrBoB> it's the same as anything
[2:48] <svm_invictvs> what do you mean?
[2:48] <HrdwrBoB> a flame sensor isn't different from any other basic sensor
[2:48] <svm_invictvs> I mean...all sensors operate differently
[2:49] <clever-also-afk> also, the instructable HrdwrBoB linked is an analog sensor, and the rpi is digital only
[2:49] <svm_invictvs> The one I ahve, I guess you have to generate a current
[2:49] <clever-also-afk> ah wait, it has both analog and digital outputs, but not all sensors will have that
[2:49] <svm_invictvs> Which passes through the flame, then you basically see if there's continuity through the flame
[2:50] <svm_invictvs> I didn't realize a flame could conduct electricty
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[2:51] <clever-also-afk> http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/45105/does-fire-conduct-electricity-why
[2:52] <svm_invictvs> I guess it makes sense
[2:52] <svm_invictvs> I hadn't thought of it
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[2:52] <HrdwrBoB> svm_invictvs: how the sensor works is different for all sensors sure
[2:52] <svm_invictvs> So this flame sensor you have to send an AC current to it, then basically figure out if it's making it through. If there's a flame you get the current on the other end, if there's no flame you see no current.
[2:52] <HrdwrBoB> but ultimately it boils down to a few ways of interacting with them
[2:53] <svm_invictvs> Yeah
[2:53] <svm_invictvs> HrdwrBoB Well, i was assuming it was either a thermocouple or a thermal resistor
[2:54] <svm_invictvs> But it makes sense to do it this way because you want to know if there's a flame right away wihout having to wait for something to heat up.
[2:54] <HrdwrBoB> then it wouldn't be a fire sensor, would it
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[2:54] <svm_invictvs> It's not really even a sensor
[2:54] <svm_invictvs> It's a piece of steel shoved into a ceramic tube and bent into shape, heh
[2:55] <svm_invictvs> Wow, I can't believe I paid $10 for htis part
[2:55] <svm_invictvs> Probably worth $0.10
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[2:58] <svm_invictvs> I should say it's a sensor, I just expected it to be a transducer
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[3:57] <GamingX2005> Anyone try to setup Alexa using the Amazon github tutorial on the Raspberry Pi 3 ?
[3:59] <HrdwrBoB> you, I imagine
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[4:11] <stiv> GamingX2005, been meaning to mess with that, but life gets in the way. most annoying!
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[4:14] <GamingX2005> stiv, I did manage to set it up. It seems to work fine!
[4:14] <stiv> cool!
[4:14] <GamingX2005> It's response to the keyword seems flaky though, so I'm not sure if it's the mic or the pi itself
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[4:15] <stiv> i would suspect the mic first. i think the alexa has 4 mics and does some beam-forming trickery
[4:16] <GamingX2005> stiv, I guess I should have studied the actual product well before
[4:16] <GamingX2005> stiv, I'm gonna get a good mic and try it out. But just remember, you won't be able to use Spotify, Amazon Music and all that with the pi version of it
[4:18] <GamingX2005> The thing that I'm trying to figure out was if someone had managed to setup the startup routine for automatically starting it up on a reboot
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[4:19] <stiv> i was more interested in home automation stuff. turning on lights, coffee pot, etc
[4:20] <GamingX2005> stiv, I think that should work. But I
[4:20] <stiv> GamingX2005, is your pi doing systemd or old-style init scripts?
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[4:20] <GamingX2005> don't have all that fancy gizmo to link with it lol
[4:20] <GamingX2005> stiv, it's old style init scripts
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[4:27] <stiv> in that case, you basically put the script in /etc/init.d dir and symlink it into the appropriate /etc/rc?.d for whatever runlevel you want
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[4:28] <stiv> or just add it into /etc/rc.local
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[4:29] <GamingX2005> stiv, I'll try that out. Thanks!
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[5:55] <Psi-Jack> Heh heh http://i.imgur.com/HwrpZZu.jpg
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[5:59] <Valduare> i dont get the joke :P
[5:59] <Valduare> cant wait till my esp32 arrives
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[6:00] <Psi-Jack> Hehe
[6:00] <Psi-Jack> It's a PiZeroW, backed by an ESP8266. :)
[6:01] <Psi-Jack> Just because. No reason. (the ESP isn't even hooked up to anything.
[6:01] <Psi-Jack> Though I could power the ESP with the Pi. :)
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[6:03] <Psi-Jack> It's really just about the RPiZW case. Pretty sweet I thought.
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[6:05] <Valduare> I like c4labs cases
[6:05] <Valduare> use them all the time
[6:05] <Valduare> i have the wooden one of that case
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[6:52] <Psi-Jack> Heh. This has a wood base.
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[7:06] <nevodka> interesting c4labs is right near where i live
[7:06] <nevodka> i wonder if they allow people to walk in :o
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[7:12] <Psi-Jack> Interesting. :)
[7:13] <Psi-Jack> Kinda cool. What really topped off this case was the rubber feet I got with "The Pi Hut"'s RPiZW essentials kit.
[7:14] <Psi-Jack> The metal screws would've been a little bit meh, so I'm actually recommending including feet with their cases because it really makes a difference.
[7:14] <Psi-Jack> And feet... Are cheap as dirt practically.
[7:16] <nevodka> ive literally passed their warehouse hundreds of times
[7:16] <nevodka> its right next to the major bus stop in that area
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[7:16] <nevodka> i have to go down there soon to return a raspberry pi to someone actually, im going to see if theres an actual storefront there :>
[7:18] <Psi-Jack> Hehe
[7:19] <Psi-Jack> Heh. So funny kinda. Comparing stuff like the Arduino Uno to Arduino-compatible devices like the ESP8266, price-wise, and capability-wise slightly differ.
[7:20] <nevodka> arduino has kind of pooped the bed hasnt it
[7:20] <Psi-Jack> The Uno, for example, has 8 analog outputs and 6 PWM outputs, for a total of 14 digital I/O pins (including the PWM). But only has a 16MHz clock and 32k flash.
[7:20] <nevodka> i got an uno ages ago and havent really heard about any good developments since
[7:21] <Psi-Jack> The ESP8266, however, usually only has by itself 1 analog out, several digital I/O ports, and no actual PWM.
[7:21] <Psi-Jack> nevodka: I watch a Youtube channel lately called SuperHouseTV. The guy mostly does all his home stuff with his own model of the Uno.
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[7:21] <nevodka> nice
[7:22] <nevodka> definitely subbing to that
[7:22] <Psi-Jack> Only semi-lately has he sometimes used a ESP module of some kind.
[7:22] <Psi-Jack> Yeah, it's a pretty cool show. Guy's a bonafied engineer. :)
[7:23] <Psi-Jack> Even surgically implanted an RFID chip.
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[7:24] <nevodka> thats a bit crazy
[7:24] <nevodka> lol
[7:26] <Psi-Jack> Hehe
[7:26] <Psi-Jack> Great idea. But you should see the video on that when you get the time, and to that episode. :)
[7:26] <Psi-Jack> Really interesting reasons, and problems trying.
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[7:29] <Psi-Jack> Sheash, I need to get some kind of organizational system going on with everything.
[7:29] <Psi-Jack> Heh
[7:30] <Psi-Jack> My desk is currently littered with wires, components, breadboards, modules, etc
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[7:36] <Psi-Jack> And not just solderless breadboards either. Solderable breadboards too.
[7:37] <Psi-Jack> I figured once I get a solid idea for how to make my garage door controller, might as well be ready with something I can really template off of, before I design a full schematic.
[7:43] <nevodka> Zebra Zero Plus Breadboard in Black Ice for Raspberry Pi Zero 1.3 and Zero Wireless
[7:43] <nevodka> totally getting this
[7:43] <nevodka> i totally would have got the bramble case from them too if i knew before they were so local
[7:44] <nevodka> i got the geauxrobot one instead
[7:44] <Psi-Jack> hehe
[7:44] <Psi-Jack> Hmm
[7:44] <Psi-Jack> What are those connectors called that are generally on jump cables? The ones that can be female or male?
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[7:45] <nevodka> jump wire?
[7:45] <Psi-Jack> No, the clip at the end
[7:45] <HrdwrBoB> jumper
[7:45] <HrdwrBoB> alligator clips
[7:45] <Psi-Jack> ...
[7:45] <nevodka> like this https://www.amazon.com/uxcell-Female-Jumper-Cable-Wires/dp/B00D7SDDLU
[7:45] <Psi-Jack> http://a.co/cPx5LIR -- These, for example, are JST connectors.
[7:46] <nevodka> solid tips?
[7:46] <Psi-Jack> I want to get a bunch of those connectos as shown on the left side of https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41XCTkRCu4L.jpg
[7:47] <Psi-Jack> Ahhh, Pin terminal connectors
[7:48] <nevodka> oh
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[7:49] <HrdwrBoB> nevodka: I should get a set like that
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[7:49] <Psi-Jack> At least.. That's close
[7:52] <Psi-Jack> Also known as a dupont connector.
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[8:03] <brianx> Psi-Jack: any progress on the door today? did you measure both door wires compared to signal ground at the motor/controller?
[8:03] <Psi-Jack> I did get one change to check it out. As I pushed the garage door button in, the signal flatlined.
[8:03] <Psi-Jack> I haven't looked into the logic board itself just yet. Likely tomorrow.
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[8:07] <brianx> not particularly surprising that the signal nearly disappears when you short the two wires with a low value resistor (the button resistance is probably 10 to 50 ohms when pressed.
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[8:15] <Psi-Jack> Well, tonight I'm going to get an earlier night's sleep so hopefully I wake up on time.
[8:16] <brianx> been getting to the office late, or do you work from home?
[8:16] <Psi-Jack> I'v been working from home this week.
[8:16] <Psi-Jack> Just been waking up late, like either actually late, or only a few minutes away from my 9am standup meeting heh
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[8:17] <brianx> ouch. it's 2:17 there, isn't it?
[8:17] <Drzacek> morning #rpi
[8:17] <Psi-Jack> yes
[8:17] <Psi-Jack> heh
[8:18] <Psi-Jack> I was looking up dupon pin sets, and a Irwin Vise-Grip wire stripper. LOL
[8:19] <brianx> i've had a cheapo stripper that's nothing more than a couple pieces of metal with a rounded opening in each, a hinge, and a depth stop for the past 40 years and it's all i've ever needed.
[8:19] <brianx> what you really need is a spring loaded vacuum solder puller.
[8:19] <Psi-Jack> Yeah. I use a similar Crafstsman one. :)
[8:19] <Chillum> you can spend a lot of money on strippers
[8:20] <Chillum> the tools that is hehe
[8:20] <Psi-Jack> brianx: I got one coming actually. :)
[8:20] <Psi-Jack> Chillum: Even more on the other variety. LOL
[8:20] <brianx> Chillum: the 20s in that you 'donate' add up too.
[8:20] <brianx> good Psi-Jack, i read your poor zero w story and almost cried.
[8:21] <Psi-Jack> brianx: LOL
[8:21] <Psi-Jack> brianx: Yeah. I FINALLY got it all sorted out. heh
[8:21] <Psi-Jack> I managed to damage the inductor chip, just tore off a part of the silicon, but the inductor itself is fine.
[8:22] <brianx> lucky.
[8:22] <Psi-Jack> I never used solder wick before this week.
[8:22] <Psi-Jack> I prefer.... suckers. They tend to work better. LOL
[8:22] <HrdwrBoB> I have a vacuum thing I used
[8:22] <HrdwrBoB> it seemed to work ok
[8:22] <brianx> i managed to break the sd card socket on my first pi B and had to epoxy it so the card would make contact.
[8:22] <Psi-Jack> I just hate ADDING solder, just to REMOVE solder. heh
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[8:23] <Chillum> it works though
[8:23] <brianx> the wick has it's place, but removing through hole components really isn't it.
[8:23] <Chillum> adding lead to lead free solder makes it behave
[8:23] <Psi-Jack> Yeah.
[8:23] <Psi-Jack> Wick for SMD's, I can see a use for it more.
[8:24] <brianx> yes, wick is great for cleaning up after the flood method of smd soldering.
[8:24] <Psi-Jack> Heh
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[8:24] <Psi-Jack> But, http://a.co/9ZGnc19 is what I want to get, for a wire stripper.
[8:24] <Psi-Jack> Would make life just a smidgen easier. ;)
[8:25] <Psi-Jack> Heck, I wonder if that'd work on Cat6 cable. LOL
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[8:26] <brianx> https://amazon.com//dp/B000HEAAWW is closer to what i have, but this one looks a little more fancy.
[8:26] <brianx> 1 cent.
[8:26] <brianx> (plus shipping of course)
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[8:27] <Psi-Jack> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Xf1H81tnyI -- I mean.. Romex cable stripping!
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[8:29] <brianx> pretty sweet
[8:29] <Psi-Jack> I know!
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[8:29] <Psi-Jack> With it being able to strip romex like that, I bet it'll strip cat6 too.
[8:29] <Psi-Jack> Without stripping the inner wires
[8:30] <brianx> the crimper looks pretty cheesy though.
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[8:30] <Psi-Jack> Eh, your simple basic crimper.
[8:30] <brianx> dunno about cat6. it's pretty uneven.
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[8:32] <Psi-Jack> Klein has a similar tool, but it's not "automatic"
[8:32] <Psi-Jack> Oh, they have one that is automatic as well.
[8:32] <Psi-Jack> And more expensive than Irwin. heh
[8:32] <brianx> for $16 delivered, why would you go anywhere else?
[8:32] <Psi-Jack> Hehe
[8:34] <Psi-Jack> Heh, funny
[8:34] <brianx> ok, maybe it could nick and pull a cat6 outer sheath.
[8:34] <Psi-Jack> Klein has a semi-automatic...
[8:34] <Psi-Jack> The Kelin you still have to "adjust" for each wire.
[8:34] <brianx> the depth of the nick it makes in the insulation is adjustable.
[8:35] <Psi-Jack> True
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[8:35] <Psi-Jack> Ahh, I see the knob now, yes.
[8:35] <Psi-Jack> OKay. Well, that's the tool I'm going for. :)
[8:35] <brianx> it clearly works by nicking the insulation to weaken it, then just yanks hard on the end to remove it.
[8:36] <brianx> i bet it's crap on silicone insulation.
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[8:42] <Psi-Jack> And yeah.
[8:42] <Psi-Jack> I think I'm sticking to lead/silver solder.
[8:42] <brianx> no tin?
[8:43] <brianx> didn't think they made solder without tin.
[8:43] <Psi-Jack> tin/lead/silver
[8:43] <brianx> ok
[8:43] <Psi-Jack> hehe
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[8:44] <Psi-Jack> I tried some lead free no-clean flux core silver solder, and I hated it.
[8:44] <Psi-Jack> It's wierd, especially how it just kind of snaps down, or worse, gets so solid it won't even solder anymore.
[8:44] <brianx> i've never bothered with lead free. i have no intention of eating it and have no kids.
[8:45] <Psi-Jack> I intend to have kids.... But, I clean up after I'm done, and keep my hands away from my mouth.
[8:45] <brianx> of course i use lead free on water pipes. but sweating copper and soldering are only loosely related.
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[8:45] <Psi-Jack> And I turn the bladeless fan on to blow away the fumes, but not flutter the stuff on my desk.
[8:48] <Psi-Jack> Alrighty.. All I need left is some organizational boxes for stuff, cause.. Yeah. My desk is a nightmare.
[8:48] <Psi-Jack> LOL
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[8:49] <brianx> mine is too, but i have a ton of stuff. there's a lot of organizing but just too much.
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[8:49] <Psi-Jack> hehe
[8:50] <Psi-Jack> Aight, well, I need sleep, so I'm off.
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[8:53] <brianx> ok, goodnight
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[8:57] <brianx> switches like in the button panel are not as high resistance as i thought. they're more like 0.01 ohm and not the 20 ohm i had noted.
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[9:03] <brianx> Psi-Jack: you'll need a better mosfet than i initially thought. one with a much better rdson rating.
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[9:10] <brianx> IPP45P03P4L11AKSA1 looks acceptable but the package is a huge to220, and it will need a zener diode to limit voltage on the gate to -16V worst case.
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[9:14] <brianx> not seeing anything with a to92 package. MCQ4407-TP isn't quite as good an on resistance and still needs a zener diode to limit gate voltage to -20V but it's cheaper and a smaller smt component. both have an rdson that should be fine.
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[13:43] <dan_j> Hi. I want to make a GUI which run on raspbian which will be a kiosk. What IDEs or languages should I be looking at using?
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[13:47] <SpeedEvil> dan_j: Almost whatever you're familiar with
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[13:47] <SpeedEvil> If you have no specific requirements as to high graphics content or assive speed, a siple web app may work
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[13:50] <dan_j> It would need to be a full application rather than a webapp. The screens would be installed throughout an apartment block and connectivity would be through Zigbee to a central device that hosts a 4G sim card. The keep data usage low, a full app would be able to just download data rather than graphics etc.
[13:50] <petn-randall> dan_j: I'd first take a look at existing solutions, no need to reinvent the wheel.
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[13:51] <dan_j> I'm coming from a windows background. This is my first venture into Rpi and I learn fast, so can pick any whichever language/IDE would be most suitable.
[13:51] <HrdwrBoB> dan_j: 'kiosk' is relative
[13:52] <HrdwrBoB> but yeah whatever is easiest
[13:52] <Psi-Jack> brianx: Hmm I see
[13:52] <dan_j> by 'kiosk', i mean, a device which will only allow one application to function and gives the user no way to access system settings etc.
[13:52] <HrdwrBoB> yeah
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[13:52] <HrdwrBoB> also depends on security stuff
[13:53] <HrdwrBoB> how public is it
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[13:54] <HrdwrBoB> but the easiest thing to do is to simply add a command to autorun of the pi user
[13:54] <HrdwrBoB> which auto starts on boot
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[13:56] <dan_j> They'll be installed in apartments within a block of apartments. They'll be installed by the apartment block owner. I suppose it's very easy for someone to open up the device and replace the Rpi sd card with their own, but that wouldnt give them access to the zigbee network. We did look at using android devices, but we would have to operate wifi for them and
[13:56] <dan_j> android was very easy to break into so they'd get a tablet with free wifi.
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[13:57] <BluesKaj> Hi, I have raspbian installed on RPI3 and / is installed on a usb connected hdd ...is a 2-3GB swap partition worth doing on the hdd?
[13:58] <HrdwrBoB> dan_j: epoxied SD cards goes a long way to security :)
[13:58] <HrdwrBoB> BluesKaj: no
[13:58] <petn-randall> BluesKaj: I'd go with no swap, or maybe a couple of MB. If your RPi3 starts swapping it'll become unusable, anyway.
[13:59] <Viper168> you could use that ram card style pi
[13:59] <Viper168> with the memory built in
[13:59] <Viper168> think it was
[14:00] <BluesKaj> petn-randall: why unusable?
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[14:02] <petn-randall> BluesKaj: The CPU is already slow, and the USB is only v2, so the data rates will be very slow. If you use it and it starts swapping, it'll be indistinguishable from having stopped running.
[14:02] <HrdwrBoB> what he said
[14:02] <HrdwrBoB> also if you need that much ram, you have the wrong hardware
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[14:10] * BurtyB would always add swap as linux does strange things if it can't swap when it needs to
[14:11] <Psi-Jack> Heh
[14:11] <HrdwrBoB> yeah
[14:11] <ShorTie> guess that is why thet use a default 100m swap file .. :/~
[14:12] <Psi-Jack> It doesn't do strange things. It just starts OOM killing things based on OOM priorities. :)
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[14:12] <HrdwrBoB> I wouldn't be putting it on a USB drive though
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[14:14] <dan_j> Is it possible to skin Qt gui applications?
[14:14] <BurtyB> Psi-Jack, swapping memory that's not really needed will allow it to speed up things that benefit from RAM
[14:14] <Psi-Jack> If the application is designed to, yes, dan_j
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[14:15] <Psi-Jack> BurtyB: Correct, a little. But that's not all. Do you understand what "virtual memory" is in Linux land? And do you know what the overcommit ratio defaults to? ;)
[14:16] <Psi-Jack> Heh, or even what overcommit itself is? ;)
[14:16] <BurtyB> Psi-Jack, I'm aware of how things work yes
[14:16] <Psi-Jack> Oh? Most people aren't even though they think they are.
[14:16] <Drzacek> BurtyB, what strange things and when could that happen?
[14:17] <Psi-Jack> Yeah, the
[14:17] <Psi-Jack> "strange things" is what makes me believe you don't know. ;)
[14:17] * Drzacek was running swapless for years now
[14:17] <BurtyB> Drzacek, I'd need to search back through a few years of irc logs to find it, if I even have logs going back that far
[14:18] <Psi-Jack> For the record, I've been using Linux since before Linux 1.0.0 was released over 22 years ago now. :)
[14:18] <BurtyB> Psi-Jack, similar here, but I'm not sure how that helps
[14:18] <Psi-Jack> Drzacek: I usually don't recommend running swapless. I mean, these days you can even use a swap file on the filesystem without any penalties of not using a raw swap partition.
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[14:18] <Drzacek> BurtyB, don't need to be very specific on it, just so I can have general idea
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[14:19] <Psi-Jack> BurtyB: So, what is "virtual memory?"
[14:19] <BurtyB> Drzacek, I can't remember otoh but I know adding swap fixed the issue
[14:19] <Drzacek> oh ok
[14:19] <BluesKaj> HrdwrBoB: i put it on a usb hdd in order prevent the inconvenience of microsd cards dying every couple of months
[14:19] <Psi-Jack> Heh, hey BluesKaj. o/
[14:20] <Drzacek> I always thought that "flash memory" and "swap partition" don't get along too well
[14:20] <BluesKaj> Hi Psi-Jack , miss you over at the linux chat, what gives ?
[14:20] <Psi-Jack> Drzacek: But do you know why? ;)
[14:20] <Drzacek> and I had few systems that run on either internal 512mb chip or pendrive
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[14:20] <Drzacek> Psi-Jack, because of read/write wear
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[14:20] <Psi-Jack> BluesKaj: WildPikachu has me apparently banned /still/ for whatever dictatorialship reasons he has...
[14:21] <Drzacek> dictators usually don't need reasons :P
[14:21] <BluesKaj> Psi-Jack: bloody ridiculous that
[14:21] <Psi-Jack> Drzacek: Because of how flash memory works, literally bursting electrical charges through a shield to the cell which holds the data bit. That blast of charge is what, over time, wears down and causes it to fail.
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[14:21] <Psi-Jack> Drzacek: True. LOL
[14:22] <Drzacek> Psi-Jack, yeah, thats what I said. Strange magic makes memory cells die each time something is written there
[14:22] <Psi-Jack> I mean, I know I can be rather blunt, even offensive (without intention), but even though I learned to change, it doesn't matter in the eyes of the imperial dictator. ;)
[14:22] <Drzacek> and since swap COULD lead to wild rewrites of same memory space in short time its a perfect way to kill flash
[14:23] <Psi-Jack> Drzacek: Heh. That's not strange magic. That's the literal facts. ;)
[14:23] <Psi-Jack> But still.. "What is virtual memory?" is a question many people cannot answer correctly.
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[14:24] <Drzacek> Psi-Jack, yeah yeah. What I meant is that I never really get down how the physics work and what actually happens there. Need-to-know basis. If my car dies I like to know what happened and why, but don't expect the mechanic to explain me how the magical metal particles kill the engine internals
[14:24] <BluesKaj> i know there are metods to boot directly from usb on rpi but just booting from a sdcard can't be too hard on it
[14:25] <Drzacek> Psi-Jack, as I was taught in school, virtual memory is a continuous address space that "software" see. If it is ram or swap or registers is up to OS
[14:26] <Psi-Jack> Drzacek: Fairly accurate. In Linux-land, virtual memory is the combined total of both physical RAM and swap.
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[14:26] <Drzacek> BluesKaj, I believe it can only be done on rpi3 and if somehow your usb gonna die, then there is no way to boot at all. Better to just install some boot loader to sd and start system from other medium
[14:26] <Psi-Jack> Drzacek: 95% of people whom I ask that question to, say "swap".
[14:28] <BluesKaj> Drzacek: already did that, /boot is on t sdcard and / is on the usb/hdd
[14:28] <plugwash> Psi-Jack, sometimes the correct answer depends on the context
[14:28] <Psi-Jack> plugwash: Nope.
[14:28] <Drzacek> well, "swap" isn't bad answer. Just not complete
[14:28] <Psi-Jack> An incomplete answer is a bad answer. :)
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[14:29] <Drzacek> well, the person asking the question decides what he/she accepts as an correct answer, so I just leave it
[14:29] <Drzacek> anyway
[14:30] <Drzacek> I know that the swap (be it file or partition) isn't all that bad, given enough free space on sd card and "swapiness" factor set in config
[14:30] <Drzacek> but still
[14:31] <Drzacek> I didn't set any "pagefile" or swap partition on my PC ssd, even though they say it can handle it
[14:32] <Drzacek> I'm scared of swap on flash. So I would really like to know what the consequences could be, what could go wrong if I run swapless?
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[14:33] <Psi-Jack> Heh, sheash... Those 1.5k ohm resistors are still in China.
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[14:37] <Psi-Jack> But.... I am a little bit excited for the latter part of this week. 5 new tools coming in tomorrow and Saturday. :)
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[14:51] <BluesKaj> Psi-Jack: ok I'll bite, which new tools ?
[14:52] <Psi-Jack> Heh. a Flush cutter, cause, trying to flush cut with wire cutters just doesn't work very well. Solder sucker. Iwrin Vise-Grip "automatic" wire strippers, a component tweazer set, and a dupont crimper.
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[14:55] <BluesKaj> ahh, wire/cable and solder tools, haven't dome much of that since my audio days
[14:55] <Psi-Jack> Hehe
[14:55] <Psi-Jack> BluesKaj: I soldered together my oscilliscope the other day. :)
[14:56] <BluesKaj> cooll
[14:57] <Psi-Jack> Yeah, was a cheap $40 hand-held DIY scope that actually works reasonably.
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[15:16] <Psi-Jack> brianx: Awww, man.. For $55, I could've gotten a Kuman portable dual-channel scope that does 50 Msps. haha
[15:16] <Psi-Jack> PC-connected style though.
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[15:17] <Psi-Jack> Though it only has Windows software for it.
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[15:22] <Psi-Jack> Though, I think what I may do if I get a new scope down the road that I want to be able to use is get something that either plugs into a laptop via USB, like a PicoScope, they have prices down to $115 and have native Linux support with 1GS/s, or something that can interface with an iPad.
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[15:48] <Psi-Jack> I'm more prone to spend the extra money for something like an Oscium lightning adapter scope for my iPad Pro. :)
[15:49] <Psi-Jack> But hmmm... Still seems a bit low. Only 50Msps.
[15:50] <ali1234> those PC scopes are usually rubbish
[15:50] <ali1234> everyone says get a proper one
[15:50] <ali1234> i've never tried them though
[15:50] <Psi-Jack> Hmm yeah.
[15:50] <Psi-Jack> Guess it really depends.
[15:50] <ali1234> if you just want to probe logic, get a logic analyzer
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[15:51] <ali1234> they cost about $5
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[15:51] <ali1234> a PC one i mean, those are fine
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[15:51] <Psi-Jack> The sound-card based scope things, those are definitely crap.
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[15:52] <Psi-Jack> ali1234: Hmmm.. Yeah. But I am trying to reverse engineer a Chamberlain LiftMaster's Security+ wired signalling.
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[15:52] <Psi-Jack> Today anyway.. :)
[15:53] <Psi-Jack> Tomorrow, who knows..
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[15:55] <Psi-Jack> Heh, funny...
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[15:55] <Psi-Jack> These eBoot DC-DC Buck downsteppers use the same 4R7 inductor.
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[16:21] <cbarratt> When the sun is out and about, it seems to leave a lot of the video hidden by light
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[16:28] <oq> cbarratt: glare?
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[16:30] <cbarratt> oq: yeah sort of! let me upload an example image
[16:32] <cbarratt> blob:http://imgur.com/c7c58142-0dba-4289-9815-476de15f54fd
[16:32] <cbarratt> whoops, http://imgur.com/sDXqBY9
[16:32] <cbarratt> ive deleted most of the worst ones, thats actually quite tame, normally about 80% of the video ends up white
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[16:37] <RayS> anyone here use the adafruit 3.5" PiTTF?
[16:38] <leftyfb> RayS: are you taking a survey?
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[16:40] <RayS> leftyfb: ha, no, just got a notification so I didn't get to finish :p
[16:41] <RayS> RetroPi loads ok, but all the games are squished into super letterbox
[16:41] <leftyfb> huh?
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[16:41] <leftyfb> oh
[16:41] <RayS> wondering what peoples settings are that gets the games closer to full screen
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[16:43] <RayS> leftyfb: any ideas?
[16:44] <leftyfb> RayS: my suggestion would be to play with the settings till they line up the way you want them
[16:44] <Chillum> they are full screen for me
[16:45] <Chillum> well, original aspect ratio
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[16:45] <Chillum> but you don't want the aspect ratio changed
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[16:46] <RayS> Chillum : yeah I don't want the ratio changed, but it feels like they are changed via the emulator. the game is edge to edge horizontally but only occupying the middle third of the screen (height)
[16:47] <Chillum> that is not right
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[16:47] <Chillum> out of the box nes, psx and snes work correctly for me
[16:47] <Chillum> odd
[16:47] <Chillum> you sure your TV is not in some mode where it squishes the hdmi input?
[16:48] <RayS> the menu software to select a game is full screen. I've tried SNES and sega 32 games with the same result
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[16:49] <RayS> Chillum is there a reset command for the emulation software without reimaging that I could try?
[16:49] <Chillum> I don't know, I have not played with any of the settings
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[16:50] <Chillum> other than to get my ps4 controller working
[16:50] <RayS> Chillum and you're using the 3.5" tft?
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[16:50] <Chillum> no, a 55" TV
[16:50] <RayS> yeah I think its with the tft, on the tv it was fine (prior to installing the tft)
[16:51] <Chillum> ahh well that is a whole other set of problems then
[16:51] <Chillum> does video play properly?
[16:51] <RayS> I haven't tried
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[16:51] <Chillum> well that will tell you if it is the emulator or the screen
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[16:52] <RayS> well the retropi ui is fine
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[16:58] <RayS> fixed it!
[16:58] <RayS> these are the tft display settings you want:
[16:58] <RayS> Device: pitft35-resistive
[16:58] <RayS> HDMI framebuffer rotate: 0
[16:58] <RayS> TFT MADCTL rotate: 270
[16:59] <Chillum> noice
[16:59] <Chillum> wrong aspect ratio is super annoying
[16:59] <RayS> my issue is that I was using the HDMI framebuffer rotate, not the TFT one
[16:59] <Chillum> that makes sense
[16:59] <RayS> yup
[16:59] <Chillum> you making a portable gaming machine?
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[17:00] <RayS> starting down that road :)
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[18:08] <JakeSays> RayS: i use the 2.8"
[18:08] <JakeSays> so these pi0's are super small. for some reason i thought they would be longer
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[18:10] <plugwash> same length as the A+ and the hats but much narrower
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[18:12] <plugwash> two of the mounting holes on the zero will line up with two of the mounting holes on a HAT
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[18:21] <kerio> the header is also in the same place, right
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[19:26] <latenite> Hi folks, I read https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi/Kernel_Compilation and now I wonder: what do these patches do? And why can the raspberrypi not run a vanilla kernel?
[19:27] <shiftplusone> It can
[19:27] <shiftplusone> But the downstream kernel has extra things which wouldn't be accepted upstream, better USB support, better mem routines, additional wifi drivers and so on
[19:31] <mfa298> I think there's a few bits still not been accepted into mainline that are needed. Although that list should be getting shorter
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[19:32] <shiftplusone> It's pretty much all there. It's things like the FIQ USB magic and so on which won't be accepted.
[19:33] <kerio> fiq usb magic?
[19:34] <shiftplusone> the usb controller is flaky, so by using the FIQ, packets can be handled faster. Otherwise they end up being dropped. If you remember when the pi was launched, some keyboard would get stuck keys particularly when there was a lot of network traffic
[19:34] <shiftplusone> many SBCs use the same controller, but without the patches.
[19:35] <shiftplusone> (I am nowhere near knowledgeable in the area, just paraphrasing stuff I've heard from people who worked on it.)
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[19:36] <shiftplusone> an old post about it https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=70437
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[19:38] <ali1234> i thought it was because of the way the videocore pre-empts the arm core, causing usb packets to get dropped
[19:38] <ali1234> meaning that other SBCs don't need those patches
[19:38] <ali1234> because they don't use this kind of upside down architecture
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[19:40] <shiftplusone> I haven't heard that and I've certainly seen dropped/stuck keys problems reported from other people using that controller.
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[19:47] <latenite> okay, so basically the Rpi needs a patched kernel to function as intended?
[19:48] <ali1234> yes
[19:48] <kerio> each arm board needs a patched kernel, pretty much
[19:48] <latenite> Are there other SoC boards like the Rpi that work fine with a vanilla kernel?
[19:48] <shiftplusone> plenty of people use the upstream kernel
[19:48] <kerio> maybe the beaglebone
[19:48] <latenite> shiftplusone, what do you mean by "upstream"?
[19:48] <kerio> he means mainline
[19:49] <latenite> kerio, kernel.org mainline or https://github.com/raspberrypi ?
[19:50] <kerio> mainline is kernel.org
[19:50] <latenite> ok
[19:50] <kerio> https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/wiki/Upstreaming these are the differences
[19:51] <kerio> i don't know how updated that page is, however
[19:51] <shiftplusone> Pretty much all kernels you end up running are downstream
[19:51] <shiftplusone> debian, ubuntu and any other sane distro will add their own patches on top
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[19:53] <mfa298> I tihnk most of the allwinner boards can use the mainline kernel but don't expect all features to work (particularly parts of the gpu)
[19:55] <shiftplusone> other SBCs tend to release hardware saying they'll provide drivers later and then release the next board with the same promise. Are there any SBCs which have a CSI camera connector which actually support a CSI camera out of the box?
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[19:55] <shiftplusone> ooh... maybe the answer is yes. http://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G134111627588
[19:56] <mfa298> For mainline on the allwinner boards there;s http://linux-sunxi.org/Linux_mainlining_effort
[19:56] <shiftplusone> Compatible only on Android OS. No driver for Ubuntu or other Linux OS
[19:56] <kerio> :(
[19:56] <mfa298> the orange stuff seems to have a CSI camera although only 2Mpixel and who knows how well it works (if at all)
[19:57] <mfa298> probably only works if you run a buggy allwinner 3.3 kernel (or something equally ancient)
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[19:58] <shiftplusone> http://www.diyprojects.io/camera-2mp-orange-pi-unpacking-installation-test-motion/
[20:00] <latenite> So there is not a single ARM based SoC board that can be used with the vanilla/mainline kernel? Why does this even exist then -> https://github.com/torvalds/linux/tree/master/arch/arm64
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[20:01] <shiftplusone> I am sure there are plenty that can be used. I don't know if any of them are 100% supported.
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[20:01] <shiftplusone> I am sure there are features of my laptop which linux doesn't support.
[20:02] <shiftplusone> Anyway. Home time.
[20:02] <latenite> shiftplusone, great thank you
[20:02] <mfa298> latenite: you can use some with mainline, it's just that some stuff may not work - it all depends on what you want.
[20:02] <mfa298> I've got 4.9 mainline on my bananapi, not sure if the display works - I don't need it so don't care
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[20:04] <mfa298> and there are works on many SBCs to get more into mainline, On the raspberry that's driven by the foundation so it fairly advanced.
[20:04] <latenite> mfa298, I need ethernet to work
[20:04] <latenite> I heard Rpi has problems with the ethernet
[20:04] <mfa298> on most allwinner boards it's community driven (see that linux-sunxi link I gave above)
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[20:04] <shiftplusone> the upstream work for the pi has mostly been done by the community, with the exception of anholt, who works for Broadcom.
[20:05] <shiftplusone> the foundation helps out if someone has questions and such, but I don't think they've been directly involved in upstreaming things themselves.
[20:07] <mfa298> hmmm, I thought RPF had been fairly involved, although that might have been more in getting a kernel that works and keeping it reasonably up to date with mainline
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[20:07] <gordonDrogon> latenite, ethernet problems? Regardless of yes/no, the Pi has now been in-use for over 5 years. there are thirteen million of them out there. think about that for a moment...
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[20:08] <shiftplusone> gordonDrogon: it could be flaky with the upstream kernel, since it's hanging off the usb controller.
[20:08] <shiftplusone> but idk
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[20:09] <shiftplusone> I see no reason not to use the downstream kernel.
[20:10] <oq> gordonDrogon: what has that got to do with anything though...
[20:10] <shiftplusone> oq: if ethernet didn't work, people would stop buying them.
[20:11] <shiftplusone> it's like... an important feature.
[20:11] <latenite> what bout the cubieboard? I hear that is fully mainline supported...
[20:11] <latenite> what I heard was: ethernet works and after like 20 to 30days it just hangs
[20:11] <oq> shiftplusone: people would probably still buy them...
[20:12] <mfa298> latenite: if you want something that's going to just work I'd probably just go with the RPi and the rpf managed kernels, they're well tested and supported
[20:12] <oq> you could easily say the same about buying a usb 2 device in 2017
[20:12] <shiftplusone> latenite: nope, if that happens, that's usually down to people being cheap with their power supply.
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[20:13] <oq> the pi is popular therefore there can be nothing wrong about it!!!!
[20:13] <shiftplusone> if the pi doesn't have a good 5v source, usb can drop out.
[20:14] <latenite> shiftplusone, ah ok I will try to remember that when building my unit.
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[20:15] <shiftplusone> oq: no, but it probably means that there's nothing fundamentally wrong with it. It would be nice if it had usb3, sata and a unicorn. It could be better in many ways.
[20:15] <mfa298> I did have around a years uptime on one of my Pi1's (I think an original 256MB model) without any ethernet issues
[20:15] <latenite> mfa298, why did the patches from rpf managed kernels not make it into mainline?
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[20:15] <plugwash> getting patches into mainline is hard
[20:15] <plugwash> at least complex ones
[20:15] <gordonDrogon> latenite, I have a Pi here with 144 days of uptime. it's my home asterisk pxb system. seems fine...
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[20:16] <mfa298> latenite: possibly not submitted yet - I don't know I don't follow the RPi mainlining effort - the kernel from RPF is fine and current
[20:16] <gordonDrogon> and the phones keep ringing )-:
[20:16] <plugwash> Linux kernel upstream have their own ideas about how things should be done which don't always mesh well with how vendor developers did stuff.
[20:16] <shiftplusone> there are some things upstream will just not accept, even if the code quality is good and there is a real improvement.
[20:17] <shiftplusone> subscribe to the rpi kernel mailing list to be in the loop.
[20:17] <latenite> mfa298, what is RPF in long form?
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[20:18] <mfa298> and from what I've seen elsewhere getting patches into mainline can take a long time (several releases after trying to get them in) - not that I follow it in detail
[20:19] <mfa298> latenite: RPF - Raspberry Pi Foundation (the people to design the Pi and manage the officially supported kernel)
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[20:19] <latenite> Without actually <knowing> why these patches did not make it into mainline. I <feel> there is a good reason. For the same reason I want a SoC with a unpatched mainline kernel.
[20:19] <shiftplusone> you could ask in #raspberrypi-kernel where many of the upstream devs are
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[20:19] <shiftplusone> actually, that channel has a lot less people than I was expecting
[20:20] <mfa298> well good luck finding a SoC with fully supported mainline kernel - I don't think you'll find one where the kernel works for the complete hardware
[20:20] <shiftplusone> "FIQ support requires some changes to the irq drivers."
[20:20] <latenite> shiftplusone, great idea ... I will
[20:21] <shiftplusone> "Can you please change the underlying system that all other drivers use so that this one driver works better?" is a tough sell
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[20:26] <mfa298> latenite: there's a few bits about 4.9 raspberry vs mainline kernels in te first posts of https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=167934
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[20:28] <latenite> mfa298, thank you
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[21:23] <psiklops> hi
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[21:24] <psiklops> i have an old rpi b+ ... does the current raspbian-jessie-lite img work on it ?
[21:25] <mfa298> it should do
[21:25] <psiklops> grand!! thanx alot mfa298
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[21:51] <_Trullo> which is the best image for a orangepi pc?
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[22:19] <oq> they're both real
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[23:19] <alpha2007> I am trying to build a Pi for Kiosk mode, that part was easy. But i would like to omxplayer to play promo videos as the screen saver when not in use. I followed this guide for doing this https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=167789 but for some reason it doesnt launch omxplayer when the screensaver blanks
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