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IRC Log for 2017-04-17

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[0:05] <Ellied> inspircd is good. Doesn't make the assumption that everyone wants to operate their server in the IRC tradition of not letting opers have channel powers.
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[0:09] <leftyfb> Ellied: wrong channel?
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[0:47] <Ellied> leftyfb: nah, I thought it was relevant to RPis since running an ircd for a small group is a useful function.
[0:48] <Ellied> and also notably a case where you maybe don't want the traditional separation of powers so much.
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[1:17] <zombieJesus> more amps
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[1:18] <Psi-Jack> strixUK: Yes, S3 does.
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[1:34] <strixUK> Psi-Jack: S3 costs much? 2.3¢ per gigabyte-month? What would you consider a "reasonable" cost?
[1:35] <Psi-Jack> I use S3 quite a lot, and still only pay a few pennies per month for the several GB I have.
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[1:39] <kebbanalex_> Hello! Is there a way to create a virtual (emulated hid device) gamepad in python inorder to send input form the gpio easily?
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[1:43] <ali1234> kebbanalex_: uinput
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[1:57] <kebbanalex_> ali1234: Thanks
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[2:18] <alexsq> hello
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[2:19] <alexsq> need some guide on connecting to an old alarm system using RPI's GPIO UART. Anyone have any experience?
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[2:26] <leftyfb> alexsq: you'll need to find proper documentation on your alarm system or find the signal voltages and build your own relay/logic level converter
[2:26] <leftyfb> oh, you want just UART?
[2:26] <alexsq> yeah i just want to read whats coming through the data port
[2:27] <leftyfb> alexsq: if the alarm system has a serial output, then just connect the pi's UART to it, or just get a usb -> serial adapter
[2:27] <alexsq> yes it has a data output which i connected to RX
[2:27] <leftyfb> alexsq: http://elinux.org/RPi_Serial_Connection first result on google
[2:27] <leftyfb> alexsq: you'll need rx and tx and power and ground
[2:27] <alexsq> but i don't know how to read the raw data from RPI
[2:28] <leftyfb> alexsq: follow the link I gave you from google
[2:28] <alexsq> the alarm system is already connect to power. the same port on the alarm system is already connected to a keypad
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[2:29] <alexsq> thanks leftyfb. I read through this earlier and tried minicom but nothing happened. I disabled RPI uart for debugging, so i could connect to it
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[2:30] <leftyfb> alexsq: did you set the proper bit rate and settings for the alarm system? Did you try screen like the link says?
[2:30] <alexsq> is it possible to just read raw incoming data from RX using minicom?
[2:30] <ali1234> hw do you even know its uart?
[2:31] <leftyfb> alexsq: you know you need tx and tx right?
[2:31] <alexsq> tx and tx?
[2:31] <alexsq> i looked up the chip the alarm keypad is using and the manual said it's using uart to communicate
[2:32] <leftyfb> alexsq: UART is TX and RX
[2:33] <alexsq> here images of the keypad and alarm : http://imgur.com/a/nFgNC
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[2:33] <leftyfb> alexsq: I don't know how that is supposed to help or change anything i've told you
[2:33] <ali1234> what did you do?
[2:33] <alexsq> this is the chip: http://www.datasheetcatalog.com/datasheets_pdf/M/C/7/4/MC74HC164N.shtml
[2:34] <ali1234> heh
[2:34] <leftyfb> alexsq: do you have both the TX and RX from the pi UART connected to the alarm system?
[2:34] <ali1234> its a shift register
[2:34] <ali1234> its not UART
[2:34] <leftyfb> heh
[2:34] <leftyfb> that aint gonna work
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[2:34] <ali1234> you need to use SPI to talk to that
[2:34] <alexsq> leftyfb: no, from the alarm there is only one data connection so i ran a cable to the rx on rpi
[2:34] <leftyfb> heh
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[2:34] <leftyfb> why would you assume that was UART at all?
[2:35] <ali1234> because it says serial?
[2:35] <alexsq> yeah
[2:35] <ali1234> what are you actually trying to do?
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[2:35] <alexsq> just read whatever data is being sent to the keypad
[2:35] <ali1234> nothing is sent to the keypad
[2:36] <ali1234> its a keypad it only outputs
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[2:36] <alexsq> sorry, i call it keypad but it's not just a keypad, it's got an lcd screen so you can program the alarm brain
[2:37] <ali1234> well then the 74HC164 is not what is doing that
[2:37] <ali1234> well, it might be
[2:38] <ali1234> where is the LCD?
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[2:38] <ali1234> i just see some LEDs
[2:39] <alexsq> yeah no lcd, just leds
[2:39] <ali1234> how do the two boards connect together?
[2:39] <ali1234> J1?
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[2:41] <ali1234> you will need to trace out and reverse engineer the board to figure out how it works
[2:41] <alexsq> if you look in the 1st image, the upper left corner there are three pins, data, comm and aux. That's how the brain connects to keypad
[2:41] <ali1234> J1 to J1?
[2:41] <ali1234> the first one has 4 pins
[2:41] <ali1234> that is labelled "programmer"
[2:41] <alexsq> ali1234: so it wouldn't be as easy as (if board is using uart) running a wire from data port to GPIO tx?
[2:42] <ali1234> it might be
[2:42] <ali1234> you need a multimeter and a logic analyzer to figure it out
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[2:42] <alexsq> ali1234: sorry right below that, they're not pins...the things with the screws :)
[2:43] <alexsq> i ran a multimeter and it outputs voltage between -3 to +3
[2:43] <ali1234> oh i see
[2:43] <ali1234> what does?
[2:43] <ali1234> what do the labels say?
[2:43] <ali1234> Com Aux Dat?
[2:43] <alexsq> ye
[2:43] <alexsq> s
[2:44] <ali1234> okay
[2:44] <ali1234> and where do they go to on the keypad board?
[2:44] <alexsq> not sure, i haven't taken the keypad board out
[2:44] <ali1234> but you have a picture of it
[2:45] <ali1234> oh wait its wired in to the wall isn't it
[2:45] <alexsq> yes
[2:45] <ali1234> so i wonder what J1 is for then
[2:46] <alexsq> whats J1?
[2:46] <ali1234> the white thing in the middle
[2:46] <ali1234> next to the tamper switch
[2:46] <ali1234> actually
[2:46] <ali1234> this looks like a single sided board and J1 seems to come in from behind
[2:47] <ali1234> so it is almost certainly what the connection is
[2:47] <alexsq> on thekeypad?
[2:47] <ali1234> yes
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[2:48] <alexsq> ali1234: yes i see the hole in the wall right behind J1
[2:48] <ali1234> the brains of both circuits is the chip with a label stuck on
[2:48] <ali1234> RADX
[2:48] <ali1234> those will both me microcontrollers
[2:49] <ali1234> the rest is just glue logic
[2:49] <ali1234> can you take this apart?
[2:49] <ali1234> it might mess up the alarm system if you do
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[2:51] <ali1234> J1 looks like the only connector on the LCD board
[2:51] <alexsq> take apart the keypad? or just the chip?
[2:51] <ali1234> the keypad
[2:51] <ali1234> so if that's the only connection then it must be carrying power and ground and one data line
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[2:52] <swift110> hey all
[2:52] <alexsq> i think so
[2:52] <ali1234> so that means it is using some kind of bidirection 1 wire protocol
[2:53] <ali1234> that will be difficult to reverse engineer
[2:53] <alexsq> ali1234: essentially want i'm trying to accomplish is read the inputs from the different sensors of the alarm system (door, windows, motion sensor). I thought using the alarm systems data port would be the easiest way, but if not would it make more sense to connect all the sensor inputs to a breadboard and then to the RPI?
[2:54] <ali1234> that would be easier
[2:54] <alexsq> i just checked voltage on the other 2 lines: comm is at -8 volts, aux is at 2
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[2:54] <alexsq> data fluctuates between 3 and -3
[2:55] <ali1234> it depends on what is easy for you
[2:55] <ali1234> i would figure out what the programmer port does
[2:55] <alexsq> i have no experience in this so i thought it would be a good long term project to learn from
[2:55] <ali1234> maybe reflash the firmware in the main board
[2:56] <ali1234> programmer header probably also can do debugging
[2:56] <ali1234> first priority would be finding out what controller it uses
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[2:57] <ali1234> you want to concentrate on the main PCB
[2:57] <alexsq> how can i find out what kind of chip is on the keypad?
[2:57] <ali1234> you can try peeling the label off, it might have the original manufacturer markings underneath
[2:57] <ali1234> it is probably going to be an AVR
[2:57] <ali1234> or a PIC
[2:58] <ali1234> you can also do it by tracing out the circuit and comparing it to pinouts for likely suspects
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[2:58] <ali1234> but the keypad board is not interesting
[2:58] <ali1234> the other board does all the work
[2:59] <ali1234> http://www.shieldlab.com/forum/index.php?topic=9909.0
[2:59] <ali1234> heh. are you locked out?
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[3:02] <ali1234> replacing the whole lot will be way easier for you i think
[3:02] <alexsq> i just peeled the sticker off, the chip is a motorolla MC68HC705J1A 2F44T CP QLZE9531
[3:03] <ali1234> freescale
[3:04] <alexsq> whats that
[3:04] <ali1234> a microcontroller
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[3:04] <ali1234> its going to be very proprietary comms
[3:05] <ali1234> it doesn't have any peripherals so it will be bit banging whatever proprietary protocol they invented
[3:05] <alexsq> so no uart protocol?
[3:05] <ali1234> no, no uart
[3:06] <ali1234> it only has one wire to work with anyway so it cannot be uart regardless
[3:06] <HeXiLeD> I would like to have the pi running a small project and since the pi can only run in sd card, is there a way to run 2 PI's in the same way raid1 works ? basically I would like PI A to be a clone of PI B
[3:09] <alexsq> HeXiLeD: what are you trying to do? i'm not sure what you mean.
[3:09] <ali1234> alexsq: what is U4?
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[3:09] <HeXiLeD> alexsq: have 2 PI's working in raid 1 mode
[3:10] <HeXiLeD> each one being the mirror of the other
[3:10] <alexsq> U4 no label on it, some kind of a chip :)
[3:10] <alexsq> HeXiLeD: so you want to have a 2nd sdcard in raid1 mode?
[3:10] <HeXiLeD> yes
[3:11] <ali1234> it is labelled just very faint
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[3:11] <HeXiLeD> since the board only allows in card, the only way i see it possible is to have 2 rpis
[3:13] <alexsq> ali1234: same chip as the one to ther left: mc74hct374an
[3:13] <ali1234> okay. give up on this idea...
[3:14] <alexsq> haha :)
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[3:17] <alexsq> ali1234: this chip has 8-bit bidirectional ports
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[3:22] <alexsq> HeXiLeD: you can connect the 2nd RPI using ethernet or wifi and backup sdcard1 to RPI2's sdcard. I don't think theres a way to connect two RPIs in raid
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[3:25] <HeXiLeD> yah that is what i thought.
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[3:31] <alexsq> ali1234: thanks for all your help
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[9:59] <RPI0> Hello! :)
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[12:58] <TheSilentLink> How good is the pi at cracking passwords?
[12:58] <TheSilentLink> Wifi Ines
[12:58] <TheSilentLink> Ones
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[13:02] <ali1234> terrible
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[13:15] <GenteelBen> TheSilentLink: probably 1000x worse than an x86 desktop system.
[13:15] <Habbie> probably much more than that
[13:15] <Habbie> because the x86 probably has a useful gpu
[13:15] <GenteelBen> Whether using rainbow tables or just plain brute force.
[13:16] <NedScott> well, it really depends on how hard you throw the pi
[13:16] <Habbie> haha
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[13:18] <NedScott> that being said, a Pi could be a controller for some modules that do very specific number crunching
[13:18] <NedScott> like those weird bitcoin USB dongles
[13:18] <GenteelBen> Yes I'm sure Butterfly Labs threw some Pis into their hashing chassis to make it look more computational.
[13:19] <Habbie> NedScott, indeed
[13:19] <NedScott> and that makes them much harder when you throw them
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[15:16] <hgsfn> hi, how to add new alias entires to modules.alias?
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[15:18] <hgsfn> to be specific I want to add alias for bcm4339 so it attaches itself brcmfmac driver
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[15:21] <hgsfn> looks like i need to add alias to brcmfmac, so depmod updates modules.alias, so shld i go abt doing that? any reference?
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[15:34] <RajRajRaj> i have raspberry pi in hand, application development knowledge in brain. do i have any future in this area?
[15:36] <nevodka> what am i an oracle
[15:36] <RajRajRaj> ?
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[15:37] <nevodka> what area are you talking about
[15:38] <RajRajRaj> raspberry pi
[15:38] <RajRajRaj> the technology
[15:38] <RajRajRaj> the area i meant
[15:39] <RajRajRaj> can i rely on it for making hella money in future
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[15:39] <nevodka> uh no
[15:40] <RajRajRaj> o.0
[15:41] <RajRajRaj> the industry that doesnt make money, doesnt grwow
[15:41] <RajRajRaj> grow*
[15:41] <nevodka> i have no idea what you're talking about
[15:41] <nevodka> how are you going to make 'hella money' using a raspberry pi
[15:42] <nevodka> its a small computer
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[15:42] <plugwash> RajRajRaj, sure but making "hella money" doesn't mean making *you* "hella money"
[15:43] <nevodka> yes, the manufacturers are making money, not you the consumer.. lol
[15:43] <RajRajRaj> o.0
[15:43] <RajRajRaj> thats wierd
[15:44] <nevodka> what is
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[15:45] <RajRajRaj> anyway, the real question is; how can an application developer contribute in developing something revolutinary for raspberrybi
[15:46] <mlelstv> it's a silly question
[15:46] <nevodka> raspberrybi: now supported by the LGBTQ community
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[15:47] <nevodka> anyways you are asking nonsensical questions RajRajRaj
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[15:48] <nevodka> and incredibly vague
[15:48] <RajRajRaj> i think i am asking the most relevant questions
[15:48] <RajRajRaj> what is the purpose of raspberry pi
[15:48] <mlelstv> it enables you to ask silly questions.
[15:48] <RajRajRaj> what are visions of its creator
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[15:48] <nevodka> literally in the very first line of the website description
[15:48] <nevodka> The Raspberry Pi is a tiny and affordable computer that you can use to learn programming through fun, practical projects.
[15:49] <mlelstv> people with visions should consult a doctor
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[15:50] <nevodka> its a cost efficient single board computer, people use them to make various projects or perform tasks as computers do
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[15:51] <RajRajRaj> it has the ability of GPIO which i guess is something unique
[15:51] <nevodka> yes
[15:52] <shauno> far from unique, just out of fashion on PCs
[15:52] <Habbie> 25 years ago all PCs had GPIO
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[15:53] <RajRajRaj> what
[15:53] <RajRajRaj> Habbie: are you trollling me ?
[15:53] <Habbie> it was called a 'printer port'
[15:53] <Habbie> but it could be used as GPIO very easily
[15:53] <Habbie> i am not trolling you
[15:53] <RajRajRaj> oh
[15:54] <Habbie> most non-printer devices you could attach to it used it like a GPIO
[15:54] <nevodka> no hes not trolling you
[15:54] <nevodka> its called the parallel printer port
[15:54] <Habbie> like zip drives and disney sound system
[15:54] <Habbie> i had a bunch of LEDs on mine
[15:54] <RajRajRaj> oh
[15:54] <Habbie> because what else are you going to GPIO
[15:54] <nevodka> they contain data/handshake lines that are analogous to the pins used for gpio
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[15:56] <shauno> there's really nothing magic or special about the Pi. it just brought "nothing magic or special" to a whole new pricepoint. But at the end of the day it's just a tool - it's up to you to do something interesting with it
[15:56] <nevodka> anyways as far as your question goes i dont really know what you're searching for, nobody is going to just throw a 'revolutionary' idea at you
[15:56] <Habbie> and that pricepoint allowed a community to grow around it
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[16:00] <RajRajRaj> just for education purpose ehhh :?
[16:01] <RajRajRaj> boring :/
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[16:03] <RajRajRaj> there has to be something in it, for it become a revolutionary product
[16:03] <BurtyB> well develop some application to make it less boring :)
[16:03] <RajRajRaj> BurtyB: develop what
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[16:04] <RajRajRaj> seriously
[16:04] <RajRajRaj> what kinda application should i develop on it
[16:04] <BurtyB> the one you want to develop
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[16:05] <RajRajRaj> i want to develop soemthing that can be built only for raspberrypi
[16:05] <RajRajRaj> not very strictly, but people would prefer that application for raspberry pi
[16:05] <RajRajRaj> something like
[16:05] <RajRajRaj> that
[16:06] <mlelstv> just name it Pi*Something. It can be built everywhere, but everywhere else it sounds ridiculous.
[16:06] <SpeedEvil> In principle, you could do something low-level that relies on teh GPU
[16:06] <SpeedEvil> but documentation there is limited
[16:07] <SpeedEvil> Or more interestingly, get a good microcontroller stack for locking off one core and doing GPIO on it very fast
[16:07] <SpeedEvil> Without interrupts or anything
[16:07] <RajRajRaj> thats no fun i guess
[16:07] <nevodka> lol
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[16:08] <RajRajRaj> i mean come on
[16:08] <SpeedEvil> It's got enormous apps, from CNC to controlling servos and motors and ...
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[16:08] <RajRajRaj> ok
[16:09] <RajRajRaj> its been 3 days and i have been thinking about how to proceeed
[16:11] <RajRajRaj> the one thing that i felt was, "now i can control hardware"
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[16:12] <RajRajRaj> but then i thought how could i make it into something thats fun and revolutionary
[16:12] <SpeedEvil> You can't.
[16:12] <RajRajRaj> SpeedEvil: ?
[16:12] <RajRajRaj> why
[16:12] <SpeedEvil> Stop doing that, it's annoying.
[16:12] <nevodka> ^
[16:13] <SpeedEvil> If you come into a field with a new thing, you're not going to make something revolutionary and awesome that everyone wants easily
[16:13] <SpeedEvil> Especially if several hundred thousand people have been playing with it for years
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[16:13] <RajRajRaj> SpeedEvil: steve jobs came in with personal computers didnt he?
[16:13] <SpeedEvil> There are useful things that you could in principle do, but they are hard, and niche.
[16:13] <SpeedEvil> No, he diddn't.
[16:14] <SpeedEvil> Apple was not particularly exceptional in the early days of PCs.
[16:14] <SpeedEvil> It remained not particularly exceptional throughout the whole PC era.
[16:14] * Sonny_Jim nods
[16:14] <Sonny_Jim> It was cheap
[16:15] <Sonny_Jim> Ingenious hardware design due to Woz made it cheap to build
[16:15] <SpeedEvil> Also, Jobs had nothing to do with apple from 86-96 or so
[16:15] <RajRajRaj> w/e apple launched something and it worked
[16:16] <RajRajRaj> nothing new. it was just computer made small
[16:16] <Sonny_Jim> Nope
[16:16] <SpeedEvil> It never got a dominant market share.
[16:16] <Sonny_Jim> Made cheap, not small
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[16:16] <Sonny_Jim> Same deal with Clive Sinclair in the Uk
[16:16] <mlelstv> apple wasn't cheap
[16:16] <RajRajRaj> Sonny_Jim: small and cheap
[16:16] <Sonny_Jim> Wasnt small
[16:16] * SpeedEvil sighs at 12 year olds.
[16:17] <RajRajRaj> it WAS small
[16:17] <Sonny_Jim> Smaller than what?
[16:17] <Sonny_Jim> An orange?
[16:17] <RajRajRaj> he didnt build the computer out of vaccume tubes. did he?
[16:17] <mlelstv> apple was the expensive stuff nobody could afford
[16:17] <Sonny_Jim> It turned into that, yes, after Jobs decided to rip off Xerox parc
[16:17] <mlelstv> that's why apple clones at half the price were successful
[16:17] <pksato> small, cheap and easy to use. (for 1980 perspective)
[16:18] <Sonny_Jim> Micro computers by their very definition were already small
[16:18] <Sonny_Jim> To somehow insinuate that the Apple II was 'small' just doesn't make any sense
[16:18] <hamitron> size is relative ;/
[16:18] <RajRajRaj> SpeedEvil> There are useful things that you could in principle do, but they are hard, and niche.
[16:18] <RajRajRaj> e.g.?
[16:18] <SpeedEvil> See above.
[16:18] <RajRajRaj> above where
[16:18] <RajRajRaj> Or more interestingly, get a good microcontroller stack for locking off one core and doing GPIO on it very fast
[16:18] <RajRajRaj> this?
[16:18] * mlelstv used micro computers the size of two wardrobes
[16:18] <SpeedEvil> A good microcontroller stack for locking off one core of the pi and doing GPIO on it very fast in hard realtime.
[16:18] <SpeedEvil> yes
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[16:19] <RajRajRaj> anything else?
[16:19] <BurtyB> moon on a stick
[16:19] <SpeedEvil> All of the 'easy' bits have been tried.
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[16:20] <RajRajRaj> i am ok with hard works
[16:20] <RajRajRaj> just name it
[16:20] <SpeedEvil> Hard meaning intractable with one person, for various reasons
[16:20] <nevodka> solve the traveling salesman problem in polynomial time
[16:20] <SpeedEvil> For example, there are no documents for much of the low level bits of the Pi SoC
[16:21] <RajRajRaj> ugh documentation
[16:21] <RajRajRaj> you are listing boring stuff
[16:21] <SpeedEvil> much of the interesting stuff - get arbitrary cameras or displays working on CSI or DSI with full accelleration - say - are probably impossible
[16:21] <SpeedEvil> Because of lack of docs
[16:22] <RajRajRaj> it seems its all about performance related things you go
[16:22] <RajRajRaj> full accelaeration. very fast and all
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[16:23] <nevodka> yes vroom vroom
[16:23] <RajRajRaj> ?
[16:23] <nevodka> like a car
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[16:24] <RajRajRaj> o.0
[16:24] <SpeedEvil> Duct tape the Pi to a cat in an amusing manner. Post on instagram.
[16:24] <RajRajRaj> i could build a car on raspberry pi. but there are many out there
[16:24] <RajRajRaj> SpeedEvil: :/
[16:24] <nevodka> lol
[16:25] <nevodka> a car for your cat or for you?
[16:25] <RajRajRaj> a small car
[16:25] <RajRajRaj> toy
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[16:26] <hamitron> it would be nice to have a totally open platform :/
[16:26] <SpeedEvil> The above hard realtime thing would find application there - robotic stuff improves lots if you have consistent timing for servos, and reading sensors on proper deadlines for determining position
[16:27] <RajRajRaj> hamitron: exactly
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[16:33] <RajRajRaj> -_-
[16:35] <nevodka> whats wrong
[16:35] <RajRajRaj> just disappoiting to think that i may not do anything
[16:36] <nevodka> what was your initial expectation
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[16:37] <SpeedEvil> As new fields are created, you can do simple things and get widespread use. As time goes on, the amount you can do alone becomes smaller and smaller.
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[16:38] <SpeedEvil> You need to be increasingly special - either smarter, or knowing unusual things, or ... to be able to have a similar impact.
[16:38] <SpeedEvil> Or lucky
[16:38] <SpeedEvil> Or good at PR
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[16:38] <RajRajRaj> pr?
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[16:39] <RajRajRaj> public relation?
[16:39] <SpeedEvil> yes
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[16:40] <RajRajRaj> nevodka> what was your initial expectation > i thought i could build something incredible using GPIO
[16:40] <RajRajRaj> something that big laptops couldnt do
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[16:42] <nevodka> incredible like what
[16:42] <RajRajRaj> nevodka: like ummm facebook
[16:42] <RajRajRaj> dont laugh
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[16:43] <BurtyB> hmm you could evaporate water on a Pi3 cpu, you can't really do that with a laptop unless you take it to pieces
[16:43] <RajRajRaj> BurtyB: :/
[16:43] <RajRajRaj> not funny
[16:43] <nevodka> you wanted to create the website facebook using the gpio on a pi
[16:43] <RajRajRaj> nevodka: no
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[16:43] <nevodka> thats what you just said
[16:44] <RajRajRaj> nevodka: i just gave an example of incredible thing that was built in 2004
[16:44] <RajRajRaj> and people are still using it
[16:44] <RajRajRaj> something simple + incredible
[16:44] <RajRajRaj> something useful
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[16:46] <nevodka> so where does gpio come into play
[16:46] <RajRajRaj> idk
[16:46] <RajRajRaj> it should
[16:46] <RajRajRaj> coz its new to me
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[16:47] <RajRajRaj> some people have build home automation system
[16:47] <SpeedEvil> Like facebook, the key is to be first.
[16:47] <RajRajRaj> built*
[16:47] <RajRajRaj> yes i know
[16:47] <SpeedEvil> Beating facebook is easy if you can go back in time to 1990
[16:48] <nevodka> from what ive understood so far it sounds like you want to take something you know nothing about and turn it into some imaginary money machine via advice from this chatroom
[16:49] <nevodka> just learn first
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[16:49] <SpeedEvil> If it was easy, >100/657 would have done it already. (or have)
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[16:49] <shauno> if it was that easy, we'd be busy getting rich instead of telling you how to :)
[16:49] <BurtyB> what shauno said :)
[16:50] <RajRajRaj> i know
[16:50] <Pucilowski> hello i am looking for the next big thing idea
[16:50] <RajRajRaj> lol
[16:50] <RajRajRaj> that wasnt my intention
[16:50] <RajRajRaj> i just wanna make some some money
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[16:50] <RajRajRaj> not like hella rich
[16:51] <RajRajRaj> i could even release it for free, if i get some credits
[16:51] <hamitron> don't try to make money, aim to make something for your enjoyment... greater chance of success
[16:51] <RajRajRaj> hamitron: thats what i am looking for
[16:51] <hamitron> and if you are lucky...
[16:51] <hamitron> ;)
[16:52] <RajRajRaj> i really wanna know where to start and lead to a deterministic end
[16:52] <RajRajRaj> not like learning something and after a month i regret it
[16:52] <BurtyB> back to that time machine
[16:52] <RajRajRaj> for e.g. i thought this GPIO was a big thing and now i got to know its old fashioned technology
[16:52] <RajRajRaj> -_-
[16:53] <SpeedEvil> GPIO is not old-fashioned in some respects, it has niches
[16:53] <hamitron> if you don't want to risk doing something you regret, do nothing... but then you may regret doing nothing :/
[16:53] <RajRajRaj> has it?
[16:54] <RajRajRaj> i mean fine, it can take input from various sensors and give output to various physical machines
[16:54] <RajRajRaj> like. LED, motors, etc
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[16:56] <hamitron> the r-pi could send a signal on the gpio to launch a nuclear missile... can do big things with it
[16:56] <hamitron> probably not a recommended project though
[16:56] <nevodka> i think thats being added in the next raspbian release
[16:56] <shauno> (byonuke)
[16:57] <hamitron> :)
[16:57] <shauno> as vague as it sounds, I think you have it back to front. you have a new hammer and you're looking around for a nail. Find a problem you want to solve, and solve it - don't obsess over the tool
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[16:58] <RajRajRaj> shauno: the problems are way too big to be solved with just this machine
[16:58] <Pucilowski> are you gonna power your solution with a cluster of raspberry pis RajRajRaj
[16:59] <RajRajRaj> Pucilowski: why would i do that
[16:59] <Pucilowski> it would be in line with your thinking
[16:59] <Pucilowski> as shauno said, you seem hell-bent on using the raspberry pi for no particularly good reason
[16:59] <RajRajRaj> o.0
[16:59] <brianx> nevodka, no, the next raspbian release is just more animation and transparency and shadows and thinks that make it look more like apple while breaking things like vnc over low bandwidth. no new function, just more broken.
[16:59] <Pucilowski> looking for a nail to hit with a hammer you think is particularly shiny
[17:00] <RajRajRaj> dont we all do
[17:01] <RajRajRaj> we first find out the problems then we think about solving it
[17:01] <Pucilowski> no, you haven't identified a probelm yet
[17:01] <Pucilowski> you found a tool you really want to use to solve some problem
[17:01] <nevodka> oh wonderful brianx
[17:01] <RajRajRaj> i AM trying to find one
[17:01] <Pucilowski> the problem dictates the tools and the solution
[17:01] <RajRajRaj> and i am not doing the documentation
[17:01] <Pucilowski> you're going backwards
[17:02] <RajRajRaj> i havent found the problem yet
[17:02] <RajRajRaj> that could be solved with raspberry pi
[17:02] <RajRajRaj> and not other PCs
[17:02] <nevodka> if you aren't going to read documentation you are going to have a hard time solving anything
[17:02] <RajRajRaj> nevodka: i meant, writing the missing docuemtation as someone pointed out earlier in here
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[17:03] <hamitron> there is very little the r-pi can do, that a PC can't technically do
[17:03] <hamitron> apart from fit in a small space
[17:03] <RajRajRaj> hamitron: exactly what are those little things
[17:03] <brianx> and be cheaper
[17:04] <Pucilowski> not as cheap as a bespoke hardware solution
[17:04] <RajRajRaj> remember when PCs became small it went revolutionary
[17:04] <nevodka> there is much more a traditional PC can do versus a pi
[17:04] <Pucilowski> but great for prototyping i guess
[17:04] <RajRajRaj> nevodka: there was much more a mainframe could do than personal computer those days
[17:05] <brianx> Pucilowski: try building a pc for $5.
[17:05] <RajRajRaj> -_-
[17:05] <RajRajRaj> u dont re-invent the wheel
[17:05] <hamitron> re-inventing the wheel can sometimes be good
[17:06] <nevodka> no idea what you are talking about
[17:06] <hamitron> ;/
[17:06] <hamitron> it can build up your set of skills
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[17:06] <nevodka> that was directed at raj
[17:06] <RajRajRaj> by putting my future at risk
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[17:07] <nevodka> gpio is here, ask him for the idea
[17:07] <RajRajRaj> haha
[17:07] <RajRajRaj> hey gpio we were just brainstorming on you
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[17:10] <Pucilowski> maybe you can hook up raspberry pis to kpop dancers to monitor their vitals
[17:10] <Pucilowski> sometimes they dance so hard their hearts cant take it and they pass out on stage in front of many fans
[17:10] <RajRajRaj> o.o
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[17:12] <RajRajRaj> a lot of current projects are based on moitoring
[17:12] <RajRajRaj> monitoring*
[17:12] <RajRajRaj> hmmm
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[17:13] <RajRajRaj> yeah actually i was more inclined towards output
[17:14] <RajRajRaj> but there can be interesting things based on input
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[17:14] <Tachyon`> music industry in korea seems to be virtual slavery for young people and japan isn't much better (I'm looking at you, morning musume)
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[17:14] <RajRajRaj> ?
[17:15] <nevodka> hes saying its a thriving market
[17:17] <RajRajRaj> alright thanks guys
[17:17] <RajRajRaj> let me think more upon it
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[17:18] <hamitron> problem solved \o/
[17:19] <Pucilowski> no, problem offered
[17:19] <Pucilowski> he can finally put that raspi to good use
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[17:22] <hamitron> gpio liked the idea too...
[17:22] <shauno> well, he's just found out he's going to get hooked up to some kpop stars ..
[17:22] * hamitron is only jealous
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[17:24] <hamitron> tbh, I've just made my r-pi redundant this week
[17:24] <shauno> me too. it'll find another use sooner or later though
[17:24] <hamitron> aye
[17:24] <hamitron> I'm thinking of trying windows iot on it
[17:25] <shauno> I guess someone has to
[17:25] <hamitron> hehe
[17:25] <hamitron> I like to try all the options, before restricting myself purely on politics
[17:25] <hamitron> ;/
[17:26] <hamitron> probably try ubuntu core too
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[17:27] <shauno> for me it's not so much politics, just a complete lack of familiarity with the stack & tooling
[17:27] <shauno> (and little apparent benefit from that direction. it seems more designed for people in the opposite scenario)
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[17:40] <Nintendo3DS> only got clearly wrong results doing the math as suggested on google results
[17:41] <Nintendo3DS> and this library doesn't have ChangeDutyCycle like the normal pwm library does
[17:41] <Nintendo3DS> need to use this since I'm using a breakout board
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[18:01] <j4ckcom> can i ask a question, raspberrypi specialist?
[18:02] * IT_Sean slaps j4ckcom
[18:02] <IT_Sean> Don't ask to ask, just ask.
[18:02] <oq> IT_Sean: hes a troll
[18:03] <IT_Sean> Is that a fact?
[18:03] <j4ckcom> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01NBFNP5I?psc=1 <— i can make it with raspberry pi3, because i have no money to buy it. IT_Sean
[18:03] <oq> IT_Sean: yes
[18:04] <j4ckcom> IT_Sean: you know it?
[18:04] <j4ckcom> and i m not troll :(
[18:05] <hmoney> 1 vote for troll
[18:06] <hmoney> seriously though i have no idea on your question, but that is a cool device
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[18:06] <j4ckcom> i can make it with raspberry pi? because i have no money to buy it. hmoney :(
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[18:12] <EvilDMP> Can you recommend a 2TB 2.5" hard disk drive for use with a Pi-based network backup server?
[18:13] <EvilDMP> Preferably one that will reliably run on the USB power provided by at least some model of Raspberry Pi.
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[18:27] <mfa298> j4ckcom: if you're not trolling (and like oq I've seen you trolling elsewhere) then you can't make an SDR device like that with the Pi, you might be able to use something like that with a Pi3, but you'll run out of Pi3 CPU for some tasks.
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[18:27] <oq> there are little usb sdr dongles you can use
[18:27] <mfa298> that price also looks very good for the HackRF One
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[18:28] <IT_Sean> Adafruit has a USB SDR dongle that aught to work w/ the Pi. I've got two of them myself.
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[18:28] <j4ckcom> ok thanks mfa298 :)
[18:28] <mfa298> HackRF One is a nice device, much wider bandwidth than the cheap SDRs, much greater range, and transmit (although you might be breaking the law if you transmit without knowing what you're doing)
[18:29] <IT_Sean> (I'm not using them on a Pi, though)
[18:30] <mfa298> I did do some basic playing with the my HackRF on a Pi3, but I need more time to understand how to do interesting things with the HackRF
[18:30] <oq> people use pis to make flightaware boxes
[18:30] <Chillum> I have done that, fun
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[18:31] <mfa298> I had my Pi1B pushing data to FR24 years ago, but I'm on the wrong side of a block of flats
[18:31] * mfa298 isn't sure he has enough SDR dongles, 6 or 7 at the last count I think
[18:32] * IT_Sean keeps one in his everyday carry bag, incase he has the sudden urge to SDR on the go
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[19:10] <oq> IT_Sean: what bag do you edc?
[19:13] <IT_Sean> oq: I have a 5.11 Tactical bag.
[19:13] <oq> IT_Sean: me too!
[19:13] <oq> rush 12 here
[19:13] <IT_Sean> Noice
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[19:13] <IT_Sean> Same here!
[19:13] <oq> lol
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[19:14] <IT_Sean> http://i.imgur.com/bDmz2vDl.jpg <-- http://i.imgur.com/bDmz2vDl.jpg
[19:14] <oq> ah, I have mine in black
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[19:17] <oq> I've been tempted to buy their tiered straps thing to add as extra compression straps like this, http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv75/straycatkid/001_zps249bf63a.jpg but they are kinda expensive here for what they are
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[19:18] <IT_Sean> I'm pretty happy with it. It's comfortable, fit's all my crap, keeps it organized.
[19:18] <oq> yeah
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[19:25] <IT_Sean> I did attach my USB battery bank to the outside. It's super handy there, and it's got a solar panel which keeps it trickle charged.
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[20:51] <wonderer> hi all
[20:51] <wonderer> ive instaled ftp on my rpi 3
[20:51] <wonderer> and want to use ftp to upload some log files to an external ftp server
[20:52] <wonderer> getting stuck on part of automating this process
[20:52] <wonderer> manually i get to part where i can manually login to ftp host using user/pass OK
[20:52] <wonderer> just need to know how to upload file/folder content using correct ftp commands
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[20:53] <leftyfb> wonderer: probably better off using rsync over ssh if you can
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[20:59] <blindMoe> anyone have a suggestion as to why I can ssh into my rPi from the pi itself ( ssh pi@localhot ) but I cannot ssh from another computer on my LAN? I get prompted for the password but it does not accept it which means I can see the pi and reach it
[20:59] <devslash> youre using password authentication right ?
[21:00] <blindMoe> I believe so
[21:00] <devslash> ok did you install a firewall ?
[21:00] <blindMoe> just installed the OctoPi image and didn't do anything else
[21:00] <devslash> do you know if it comes with a firewall ?
[21:00] <blindMoe> nah no firewall.. I can connect to the Pi just fine, it just won't accept the passwd
[21:00] <blindMoe> maybe it is set to key auth only
[21:00] <devslash> check your SSH config file
[21:01] <blindMoe> probably should have checked that before bugging you guys :)
[21:01] <blindMoe> my bad
[21:01] <blindMoe> ill check it out
[21:01] <blindMoe> sucks cause I have to switch my monitor and keyboard every time I want to see something on the Pi
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[21:03] <leftyfb> blindMoe: look at the auth.log on the pi while trying to ssh in
[21:03] <blindMoe> leftyfb: k
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[21:04] <blindMoe> have to wait for this 3d print to finish through octopi cause I have to restart the rPi to get the monitor to turn on since I didn't have it plugged in on boot
[21:04] <blindMoe> bbiaf.. appreciate the pointers
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[21:06] <wonderer> thx leftyfb
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[21:32] <[Saint]> ...anyone else think it's a bit shit that NOOBS/PINN can't re-install _just one_ of your operating systems?
[21:32] <[Saint]> seems to largely defeat the purpose of a boot manager.
[21:32] <[Saint]> But...w/ PINN, dat CEC tho...I be lazy.
[21:33] <[Saint]> Getting up off the couch to toggle OSes just ain't a happenin' thing.
[21:34] <blindMoe> might be the only excersize you get ;)
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[21:36] <[Saint]> At 176cm/52kg, I can afford to skip leg day. Every day. ;)
[21:36] * [Saint] is but a wee waif.
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[21:37] <[Saint]> thirty-cough-cough-something-nonya-business year old man trapped in the body of a Disney princess.
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[22:07] <blindMoe> leftyfb: when I tail auth.log it just comes up with an authentication failure
[22:07] <blindMoe> I know the password is correct because I logged into the Pi with it directly just before trying to ssh in
[22:07] <leftyfb> that means you're getting an athenticaion failure
[22:07] <leftyfb> you know what I bet?
[22:07] <blindMoe> no :)
[22:07] <leftyfb> blindMoe: shut the pi down completely and try to ssh in again using the same exact user/ip
[22:08] <blindMoe> just did that
[22:08] <blindMoe> had to shut down to get the monitor to turn on :/
[22:08] <leftyfb> no
[22:08] <leftyfb> shut it off
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[22:08] <leftyfb> leave it off
[22:08] <leftyfb> do not turn it back on
[22:08] <leftyfb> do not plug it back in
[22:08] <leftyfb> try to ssh in
[22:10] <blindMoe> times out as expected
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[22:10] <blindMoe> there are no other Pi's on my network ( or in my house ) if that is what you were thinking
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[22:11] <leftyfb> ok, plug it back in, try to ssh in and paste the auth.log failure to pastebin.com
[22:13] <blindMoe> hrmm that may be harder said than done since I only have a keyboard hooked up and no X
[22:13] <blindMoe> let me tail the log really quick and see if I can just type in some pertinent info
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[22:13] <leftyfb> blindMoe: there are pastebin clients you can install
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[22:13] <blindMoe> oh cool
[22:14] <leftyfb> blindMoe: sudo apt install pastebinit
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[22:17] <blindMoe> just pm'ed the link to you
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[22:17] <leftyfb> didn't get it
[22:17] <leftyfb> just paste it here
[22:18] <blindMoe> http://paste.debian.net/928100
[22:18] <leftyfb> ah!
[22:18] <leftyfb> on the pi
[22:18] <leftyfb> on the command line
[22:18] <leftyfb> type in your password so you can see it
[22:19] <blindMoe> yeah the characters are wrong
[22:19] <leftyfb> :)
[22:19] <blindMoe> hehe
[22:19] <leftyfb> edit /etc/default/keyboard
[22:19] <blindMoe> why can I login though? I am guessing bash or something has the wrong keyboard set
[22:19] <leftyfb> change the "gb" to us
[22:19] <leftyfb> no
[22:20] <leftyfb> on the pi, you set the wrong password because the keyboard typed the wrong characters but you never saw it
[22:21] <blindMoe> that makes sense
[22:21] <leftyfb> make sure to reset the password to something simple so you can log back in after changing the keyboard and rebooting
[22:21] <blindMoe> do I have to reboot after that change? Loging out then back in didn't seem to fix it
[22:21] <leftyfb> yes
[22:22] <leftyfb> you'll have to reboot
[22:22] <blindMoe> k
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[22:24] <blindMoe> leftyfb: you're the man.. works great now :)
[22:24] <blindMoe> thank you very much
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[22:24] <leftyfb> np
[22:25] <blindMoe> is there a stock root password? I can't seem to figure out what it is
[22:25] <leftyfb> no
[22:25] <leftyfb> why do you think you need to login directly as root?
[22:25] <blindMoe> nevermind.. was able to change it through sudo
[22:25] <[Saint]> 'cos...root is like, l337, mang.
[22:25] <blindMoe> I don't want to login with it.. just want to make sure it is secure and not some default password
[22:26] <[Saint]> it is, and it's not.
[22:26] <[Saint]> rest easy.
[22:26] <leftyfb> blindMoe: now that you made it less secure.... generate some obscene password, copy and paste it in to set it and never write it down or remember it
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[22:27] <[Saint]> or...don't.
[22:27] <[Saint]> disable ssh password login immediately.
[22:27] <leftyfb> that too
[22:27] <blindMoe> it is a long ass md5 hash
[22:27] <[Saint]> key/passphrase, or nuttin'.
[22:28] <[Saint]> there's no reason to have an awkward-ass password for ssh login.
[22:28] <[Saint]> let PAM handle it.
[22:28] <leftyfb> huh?
[22:28] <blindMoe> this is just for hte root user which I will never be logging in with. But you are right, key setup will come next
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[22:31] <blindMoe> leftyfb: really appeciate the help.. made my rPi experience much better :)
[22:31] <blindMoe> gg
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[23:58] <rafa_> hey guys, i want to install a new operating system in my raspberry pi 1 (512MB RAM) and i'd like to know if you have any advice.
[23:58] <rafa_> Something simple
[23:59] <rafa_> no GUI
[23:59] <rafa_> just for using with SSH
[23:59] <mrkramps> picore?
[23:59] <rafa_> im gonna check it out
[23:59] <redrabbit> raspbian lite
[23:59] <mrkramps> it is a tinycorelinux port
[23:59] <rafa_> cool

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