#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2017-04-25

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[0:10] <Sonny_Jim> Burger flip phone
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[0:27] <IT_Sean> Sonny_Jim: Nah man. Motorola bag phone, w/ modern innards.
[0:27] <IT_Sean> (Yes, I actually had a bag phone back in the day)
[0:28] <IT_Sean> ((yes, I am that old)).
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[0:30] <Skaag> is there a way to get the hardware watchdog load on boot before the kernel boots? (assuming the itself kernel hangs)
[0:30] <Valduare> i found one snorkling in a lake once IT_Sean heh
[0:31] <IT_Sean> found one what?
[0:34] <Valduare> bag phone
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[0:43] <IT_Sean> oh. wow.
[0:43] <IT_Sean> bet it was pretty grotty.
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[0:54] <Valduare> the bag was
[0:54] <Valduare> inside looked pretty clean
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[1:16] <nacelle> an old saab i bought once had a speakerphone built into it of the bagphone era
[1:17] <nacelle> it stayed in it too, to remove it required taking the car apart
[1:17] <nacelle> (like take the top off the bottom and get underneath it, etc. it was in there good.)
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[1:21] <clever> nacelle: ive done that to a van before
[1:21] <clever> nacelle: the handset used a cat5 connector, so i was able to just use some ethernet cord to extend the handset<->bag
[1:21] <clever> nacelle: then i installed the bag half in the dash, with the cat5 coming out the hole where the 12v jack was meant to be
[1:22] <clever> and the phone was plugged into the 12v jack, behind the plastic
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[1:30] <Valduare> whats max size microsd card for rpi3
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[2:04] <ArtesMagae> Hello, Everyone.
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[2:04] <ShorTie> Good Morning
[2:04] <ArtesMagae> Is there any reason why an OS that works fine on a pi 2 would NOT run when the SD card is placed in a pi 3?
[2:05] <ShorTie> sure
[2:05] <ShorTie> 1st, is the card up to date ??
[2:06] <ArtesMagae> Yes.
[2:06] <ShorTie> is this raspbian or some other os ??
[2:08] <ArtesMagae> So, not long ago I got my first pi (a pi 3) and use raspbian on it. At a yard sale yesterday I found a nearly complete Kano Kit with a pi 2 (for 5 dollars!).
[2:08] <nacelle> nice yard sale
[2:08] <ArtesMagae> I was trying to use the SD card from the Kano Kit (with the pi 2) on my pi 3. Out of curiousity.
[2:08] <ArtesMagae> But it freezes at the mulitcolor boot screen
[2:09] <ShorTie> sounds like it needs updated
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[2:09] <Sonny_Jim> IIRC, the latest Raspbian works on all models, but earlier versions of it don't work on the Pi3
[2:10] <ArtesMagae> I'll see if I can update the Kano OS any further.
[2:10] <ArtesMagae> I won't be using the Kano OS myself probably, heh. But thought it was a good time to experiment with switching SD cards out.
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[2:12] <ShorTie> that Kano OS, which i've never heard of, may not support the rpi3
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[2:13] <ArtesMagae> So, the Kano OS is from a company that makes kits to fully setup a raspberry pi out of the box. The OS itself is based on education and aimed at children.
[2:14] <ShorTie> doesn't mean it will work in a rpi3
[2:14] <Skaag> I have a problem with a PI that doesn't reboot reliably
[2:14] <Skaag> it shows the fsck output, says the memory card is clean, and stops there
[2:14] <ShorTie> it's a 'land before time' thing
[2:14] <ArtesMagae> @ShorTie Right, was just giving you some info.
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[2:40] <Skaag> are there known issues with Pi3 and certain types of SD cards?
[2:41] <Skaag> like type 3 SD cards
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[2:42] <nacelle> power supplies are usually the culprit
[2:42] <nacelle> not enough amps
[2:43] <ArtesMagae> Not enough amps for certain SD cards or for the Pi itself?
[2:44] <Skaag> it would show the yellow lightning though, wouldn't it?
[2:44] <Skaag> it's hooked up to a power supply that gives out 3 amps, plenty of power
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[2:48] <nacelle> weird
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[2:51] <Skaag> I'm looking at this table here: http://elinux.org/RPi_SD_cards
[2:52] <Skaag> My exact SD card model isn't there (SDSQXVF-064G-GN6MA)
[2:52] <Skaag> but some are, that are really close, and are marked as not working OK
[2:52] <Skaag> Thing is that it boots OK if I disconnect the Pi from power, and reconnect it
[2:53] <Skaag> it only hangs when I try to reboot manually (from the OS), and not always, more like 50% of the time
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[2:53] <Skaag> the ethernet lights are on, which I think means it did not complete the shutdown process
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[2:54] <ShorTie> sounds like it needs a new image writen to it and better power supply to me
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[2:55] <Skaag> when you say better power supply, do you mean more powerful?
[2:55] <ShorTie> or it could be the cable
[2:55] <ShorTie> more better voltage
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[2:56] <Skaag> stability of voltage? power?
[2:56] <ShorTie> stability of voltage
[2:56] <Skaag> we tried two different power supplies
[2:56] <Skaag> we're about to try this with a different SD card
[2:56] <Skaag> this time a 32gb sandisk SDHC card
[2:56] <ShorTie> does the cable have 24awg printed on it ??
[2:57] <Skaag> (previous one was SDXC)
[2:57] <Skaag> 22AWG cable, it's a MIL-Spec wire
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[2:58] <ShorTie> even better
[2:58] <Skaag> It's an excellent wire
[2:58] <Skaag> ok we checked again, it's 24awg
[2:59] <Skaag> how does that affect things?
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[2:59] <ShorTie> smaller the wire the more voltage drop across it
[3:00] <ShorTie> under high load, the voltage can fall to low
[3:00] <Skaag> it's a short distance though, very short
[3:00] <Skaag> not even 1m
[3:00] <Skaag> at most 50cm
[3:01] <Skaag> almost exactly 40cm actually (just checked)
[3:01] <Skaag> the wires are cold to the touch
[3:01] <Skaag> cold like my wife's love
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[3:39] <blocky> can I add whatever I want to config.txt and have it picked up by a driver? or are there only certain nodes that are already expected there
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[3:56] <blocky> unrelated but does anyone know why my serial console works once the pi is booted but doesn't show any messages during boot?
[3:57] <blocky> using raspbian
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[3:58] <redrabbit> by the way do you need to activate something to use the rx tx on the pi0w
[3:58] <redrabbit> i tried to probe around with my uart to usb, nothing
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[4:02] <nacelle> blocky: the kernel has to be told to use the serial console during boot
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[4:03] <nacelle> once init/systemd picks up and eventually starts a getty, you get the login prompt on the serial port
[4:04] <blocky> cmdline.txt has console=serial0,115200
[4:04] <blocky> and config.txt has enable_uart=1
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[4:05] <nacelle> "The Broadcom UART appears as /dev/ttyAMA0"
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[4:06] <nacelle> not sure if relevant yet, got that from here: http://elinux.org/RPi_Serial_Connection
[4:06] <nacelle> i've never done what you're doing, but I should.
[4:06] <nacelle> (but i've used serial ports on gobs of things)
[4:06] <nacelle> so instead of console=serial0,115200
[4:06] <nacelle> try console=ttyAMA0,115200
[4:08] <blocky> hmm same thing
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[4:10] <nacelle> do you have a kdgboc= ?
[4:10] <nacelle> kgdboc=ttyAMA0,115200
[4:11] <nacelle> you might need that for whatever reason, but you'll definitely want it anyways
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[4:12] <blocky> i don't have it, what does it do?
[4:12] <blocky> i have this plymouth.ignore-serial-consoles
[4:12] <nacelle> https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/jwessel/kgdb/ch03s03.html
[4:13] <blocky> hmm interesting
[4:13] <nacelle> plymouth seems to be something with the startup log
[4:13] <nacelle> logo
[4:14] <blocky> yeah it's well after the kernel i think
[4:14] <nacelle> yeah
[4:14] <nacelle> probably something you want that way
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[4:31] <ArtesMagae> exit
[4:31] <ArtesMagae> Damn it haha
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[5:54] <furkan> does anybody know how to suppress the "Your Raspbian system has been upgraded to the latest version" dialog boxes?
[5:55] <HrdwrBoB> don't upgrade
[5:57] <furkan> heh
[5:57] <furkan> i'm using the pi for digital signage
[5:57] <furkan> and i think that message is supposed to come up on the first reboot after upgrading
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[5:57] <furkan> but it keeps coming up every time i reboot it (via ssh)
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[5:58] <chiggins> What's a good way to play wav files on a pi via Python?
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[8:54] <newbie123> What is the easiest way to watch youtube videos on a pi running Raspbian ?
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[9:11] <brainzap> good morning raspberry pi hobbyists
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[9:18] <Sonny_Jim> Dave_MMP: I used to use youtube-dl and then omxplayer
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[9:47] <newbie123> I have installed Kodi under Raspbian. When I click on Kodi most of the times it wont open and when it does open there is no mouse pointer and the keyboard has no response
[9:48] <newbie123> I need to hard reset the Pi
[9:48] <Sonny_Jim> Run it from a terminal, preferably with a 'verbose' switch
[9:49] <newbie123> Sonny_Jim, When I run from the Terminal it opens but hangs the Pi entirely
[9:49] <Sonny_Jim> Also consider using ssh to log in from another computer to see if it truly is locking up or if Kodi is just capturing all keyboard events
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[9:55] <polprog> havebyou tried another tty?
[9:55] <polprog> newbie123: ?
[9:55] <newbie123> polprog, How do I do that ?
[9:56] <newbie123> Running dist-upgrade atm ..There is an updatefor KOdi
[9:56] <newbie123> polprog, ^^
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[9:59] <pagios> what are the resources as CPU/RAM required to encode on a cpu a fullhd 30fps using the CSI module?
[10:02] <newbie123> Finished updating Kodi. It still wont open
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[10:06] <newbie123> Is there any other media center solutions other than kodi ?
[10:06] <Habbie> openelec, libreelec, probably a few more
[10:06] <Sonny_Jim> Kodi works just great
[10:06] <Habbie> i have no recommendations
[10:06] <Sonny_Jim> They all use Kodi
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[10:07] <Habbie> Sonny_Jim, right
[10:07] <Sonny_Jim> newbie123: Have you tried starting Kodi from the command line with verbose options turned on and looked at the log?
[10:08] <newbie123> Sonny_Jim, When I open Kodi for the commanline it opens but the Pi hangs
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[10:08] <newbie123> I cant see the output
[10:09] <Sonny_Jim> Have a look at $HOME/.kodi/temp/kodi.log
[10:10] <Sonny_Jim> Has Kodi ever worked?
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[10:12] <newbie123> Sonny_Jim, http://paste2.org/Y2Jb809Z
[10:12] <newbie123> Sonny_Jim, No it has never worked
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[10:14] <Sonny_Jim> Can't see anything drastically wrong there
[10:14] <Sonny_Jim> Try quitting out of the desktop and running it from the terminal
[10:15] <newbie123> Sonny_Jim, How do I do that ?
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[10:16] <Sonny_Jim> Log out
[10:17] <Sonny_Jim> I wouldn't know how as I never actually use the PIXEL desktop
[10:17] <Sonny_Jim> I'm sure someone can explain
[10:17] <newbie123> Then I better wait
[10:17] <Sonny_Jim> Wait for what?
[10:18] <newbie123> For a solution from someone
[10:18] <Sonny_Jim> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=443088#p443088
[10:18] <Sonny_Jim> All the distros I've seen that use Kodi on the Pi, none of them use it under X
[10:19] <Sonny_Jim> I wouldn't be surprised if that's the problem
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[10:21] <newbie123> Sonny_Jim, When I do ctrl+alt+F1 my keyboard layout is all wrong
[10:21] <Sonny_Jim> *sigh*
[10:21] <Sonny_Jim> Where abouts did I say to ctrl-alt-f1?
[10:22] <newbie123> Its in that link you gave me
[10:23] <newbie123> Sonny_Jim, Is there any player that works other than omxplayer ?
[10:23] <Sonny_Jim> "On the current** Raspbian desktop there are two "logout" buttons: The large one on the desktop (now) appears to perform a full logout and (clean) shutdown. The small one, on the far right of the taskbar (that's "always" been there) still gives a further "logout screen" which, when activated just exits the desktop (ie. "kills X") to the command line. This is certainly the case when the desktop has b
[10:23] <Sonny_Jim> een invoked via "startx". I haven't used auto-boot into the desktop so, it may not be the same for that (but I'd be somewhat surprised if it was different)."
[10:24] <Sonny_Jim> I was giving you instructions on how to logout of the desktop
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[12:06] <euoia> I am trying to create a safe shutdown and startup button for my pi
[12:06] <euoia> I have written a script in python to detect a button press, and that works
[12:06] <euoia> if I connect to GPIO 3 I also get startup for free
[12:06] <euoia> my concern is that I want to use GPIO 3 (I2C) for a peripheral as well
[12:07] <euoia> does shorting any of the other GPIO pins cause startup? Can I use a different pin?
[12:07] <kerio> wait, gpio 3 lets you turn on the raspi after you shut it off? :o
[12:08] <euoia> yup
[12:08] <euoia> if you short gpio 3 momentarily the pi will start up
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[12:36] <Sonny_Jim> Cool, never knew that. Always assumed that once the Pi had reached shutdown it needed a full power cycle to reboot
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[12:39] <HrdwrBoB> haha
[12:39] <HrdwrBoB> I didn't know that either
[12:40] <polprog> yeah, that reset header is quite useful :D
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[12:53] <phinxy> are there rpi3 cases with room for 2.5" HDD and possible built in usd>sata converter?
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[12:56] <kerio> how do you convert money to sata?
[12:56] <kerio> :^)
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[12:58] <Sonny_Jim> Pretty sure I've seen some
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[12:58] <Habbie> kerio, it's called a shop
[12:59] <euoia> I have an idea. I will hook the button up to both gpio 23 and to gpio 3.
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[13:33] <psiklops> Hello. Is there a way to clone a SDcard with an Raspbian install, only to copy the areas of the SDCard that have the essential data instead of making an entire i.e. 8GB copy ?
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[13:35] <Habbie> psiklops, yes!
[13:35] <psiklops> Habbie, how? :-)
[13:35] <Habbie> psiklops, what machine will you be using to do the clone?
[13:36] <psiklops> Habbie, an AMD64
[13:36] <Habbie> psiklops, linux?
[13:36] <psiklops> Habbie, yes
[13:36] <Habbie> see if you can install clone2fs with your favourite package manager
[13:36] <Habbie> then we'll continue, i'll be here for a while
[13:37] <psiklops> Habbie, thanks ... don't have it in repos ... i'll check SearchEngine
[13:37] <Habbie> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/disk_cloning#Using_e2image
[13:37] <Habbie> maybe this one then
[13:38] <Habbie> the Note is especially useful - apparently gparted can do the whole thing for you, might be easiest
[13:38] <psiklops> Habbie, i have gparted :-)
[13:38] <Habbie> go!
[13:40] <psiklops> Habbie, ok
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[13:44] <ShorTie> maybe look at rpi-clone, https://github.com/billw2/rpi-clone
[13:44] <ShorTie> maybe
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[13:47] <psiklops> cool thanx Habbie & ShorTie
[13:47] <Habbie> ShorTie, oh neat
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[13:48] <Habbie> -H is missing from the rsync flags in rpi-clone
[13:49] <Habbie> judging from the issue list i might not recommend that tool
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[14:06] <Shadonovitch> hey, does anyone know if there's ever been a project with 2 raspberries communicating with NFC ?
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[14:07] <Shadonovitch> I'd want to move a bit of json from rasp #1 to rasp #2
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[14:13] <this_self> Hi guys! I have a task to make automation system for quest room. But only one moment corrupt me. It needed to have about 4 audio devices (big speakers) and playing there sound independently from other channels.
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[14:20] <Shadonovitch> this_self: if you wanna output sound from a Pi you should look at HifiBerry, the vanilla audio output isn't very great
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[14:21] <this_self> Hmm.. nice case! Thank you
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[14:52] <newbie123> Is there a omxplayer gui in the repos ?
[14:55] <shiftplusone> no
[14:55] <shiftplusone> unless you consider kodi an omxplayer gui
[14:56] <newbie123> Okay
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[14:58] <newbie123> shiftplusone, ttp://paste2.org/58npYVLP ....Can u please have a look and tell me whats wrong with my kodi install
[15:00] <shiftplusone> no idea
[15:00] <newbie123> Okay
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[15:03] <pathrocle> hi, so i have a beagleboard and want to use it to do some xml parsing that comes from a ftp on beagle and send it to another ftp server, any resources/pointers how to make it user frendly(like setting a webpage to configure ip's and all that stuff)
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[15:10] <pwillard> since when are beagleboards the same as Pi?
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[15:10] * gordonDrogon doesn't think they are.
[15:11] <pwillard> And truly... pathrocle your question is a generic LINUX question... maybe try ##linux
[15:11] <gordonDrogon> pathrocle, it's really a genetic Linux/Unix question - there will be more help everywhere else for this.
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[15:13] <pathrocle> ok guys, i'll go :( thanks anyway
[15:13] <pwillard> Python/perl/ruby are all well suited to perform system tasks as well as XML wrangling.
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[15:26] <Shadonovitch> Hey, i want to make 2 raspberry pi communicate together with NFC, does anyone recall a project doing something like that ?
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[15:27] <Shadonovitch> I'll probably have to dig into libnfc-dev at some point, i just want to know if anyone ever did that before me
[15:27] <pwillard> http://www.daftmike.com/2016/07/NESPi.html
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[15:30] <tehcha> hi my wifi wont work
[15:30] <tehcha> my wifi wont work, I added a network={ssid="blah" psk="mybirthday"} to wpa_supplicant conf but still nothing
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[15:31] <Shadonovitch> tehca: try "sudo wpa_cli reconfigure"
[15:31] <Shadonovitch> pwillard: that's close, but he's using tags, where i'd use a Pi directly
[15:33] <pwillard> it was what popped into my head when you said that
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[15:34] <tehcha> i tried and that gives me an error: failed to connect to non-global ctrl-ifname (null) error: No such file or directory
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[15:34] <Shadonovitch> tehcha: my bad, the command is "sudo wpa_cli reconfigure wlan0" if i recall correctly
[15:34] <tehcha> ty friend
[15:35] <tehcha> same error
[15:35] <Shadonovitch> i don't have my Pi around to test though, that's from my memory
[15:35] <tehcha> the wpa cli doenst have reconfigure as a completion
[15:35] <tehcha> isnt that something that matters?
[15:37] <Shadonovitch> no, its normal, "At this point, wpa-supplicant will normally notice a change has occurred within a few seconds, and it will try and connect to the network. If it does not, restart the interface with sudo wpa_cli reconfigure." -> from Raspberry.org
[15:37] <Shadonovitch> can you paste me the result of the ifconfig command ?
[15:37] <Shadonovitch> at ideone.com
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[15:40] <Shadonovitch> From what I see, you may have failed to provide good credentials in /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf ;; if not, you may have luck trying to play around with your interfaces, i.e "sudo ifdown wlan0 ; sudo ifup wlan0"
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[15:41] <pwillard> Does you WLAN0 show as UP?
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[15:49] <tehcha> not up
[15:50] <tehcha> doesnt show up at all only loop back and the ehternet
[15:50] <tehcha> iam connecting in through ethernet as the wifi obviously doesnt work as of yet...
[15:51] <tehcha> interface wlan0 not configured
[15:51] <tehcha> that is as a repsonse on ifdown wlan0
[15:52] <tehcha> the other one gave ignoring unknown interfeace wlan0=wlan0
[15:52] <tehcha> the credntials are good
[15:52] <tehcha> i made SURE
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[16:00] <Shadonovitch> tehcha: which raspberry are you using ? does it even have a wifi interface ?
[16:00] <Shadonovitch> check the ifconfig output ?
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[16:03] <tehcha> 3b
[16:03] <tehcha> it does have an inbuilt but if it helps i can get an usb one
[16:04] <tehcha> eth and lo are the output
[16:04] <tehcha> no wireless adapter
[16:05] <Shadonovitch> Yeah, the 3B has a wireless interface built in ... thats strage
[16:05] <Shadonovitch> strange*
[16:05] <tehcha> it worked before
[16:06] <tehcha> at a distant point in the past
[16:06] <tehcha> maybe it has been destroyed?
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[16:13] <Shadonovitch> tehcha: if you plug a wifi usb dongle it'll show up in ifconfig i think
[16:14] <Shadonovitch> but it is very strange that the original one does not show up at all in ifconfig, even badly configured it should be there
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[17:04] <Jaxana> hi
[17:04] <Jaxana> I'm thinking of creating an automation project with nodejs, rethinkdb, sensors all in the same raspberry, is it a good idea to just have one raspberry pi to control everything?
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[17:05] <brainzap> depends if it is serious or fun
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[17:05] <Jaxana> serious
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[17:06] <brainzap> medium serious or super serious?
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[17:06] <Jaxana> para um projecto sério é melhor ter tudo separado?
[17:06] <Jaxana> super :D
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[17:06] <Jaxana> ups
[17:06] <brainzap> dont use a pi, dont use wifi
[17:07] <Jaxana> For a serious project is it better to have everything separated?
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[17:07] <Jaxana> ot use pi? I use what?
[17:07] <petn-randall> Jaxana: For a serious project you wouldn't be using nodejs ;).
[17:08] <Jaxana> java?
[17:08] <Habbie> Jaxana, petn-randall is kidding
[17:08] <brainzap> its best to have a dedicated network for the sensors, something that is not Wi-Fi
[17:08] <petn-randall> I'm not. nodejs is the next-gen PHP cruft.
[17:08] <GenteelBen> Yeah, he means Ruby on Rails.
[17:09] <GenteelBen> Or better yet, Ruby on Rails on PHP within a node.js container.
[17:09] <ali1234> dont listen to anyone
[17:09] <petn-randall> Why would I let JS devs, who have only done client-side programming in their life and no concept of security, on my server?
[17:09] <GenteelBen> Yes, programming sucks. The real money's in floristry.
[17:09] <Jaxana> For a real project would use what? Java?
[17:09] <GenteelBen> Jaxana, what kind of project?
[17:09] <ali1234> it depends on the project
[17:09] <brainzap> the technology that fits the requirements
[17:09] <Habbie> Jaxana, for a real project you use something you are good with
[17:09] <petn-randall> I'd personally go with python, but that's just my taste.
[17:09] <Jaxana> automation
[17:09] <Habbie> Jaxana, that indeed also fits the needs
[17:10] <Habbie> python is a very good choice in this case, yes
[17:10] <GenteelBen> Java is very popular, easy to learn, but has a terrible first-party IDE and terrible GUI library.
[17:10] <Habbie> good gpio libs
[17:10] <GenteelBen> Also performs terribly.
[17:10] <ali1234> automation of what?
[17:10] <petn-randall> For automation I'd use ansible. ;)
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[17:10] <GenteelBen> Java clients = terrible development experience, terrible GUI, terrible performance, terrible security situation, forces your users to install the JRE.
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[17:10] <Jaxana> home
[17:10] <GenteelBen> For a new app I wouldn't use Java unless I hated my users.
[17:10] <Jaxana> home automation
[17:11] <ali1234> just buy a turn key solution
[17:11] <Jaxana> phyton
[17:11] <Jaxana> and web server?
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[17:11] <GenteelBen> Honestly, I'd much rather use C++. More difficult to develop for but you can use Visual Studio for Visual C++. You can build a nice UI on top. Of course then it'll be restricted to Windows.
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[17:13] <GenteelBen> But my #1 choice would be C#. Ridiculously easy to develop for, the best IDE by far (Visual Studio), the best GUI libraries by far (WinForms, WPF, etc.), etc.
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[17:14] <brainzap> hey I said the raspberry pi is not fit to be used as home automation device, and everyone discusses programming language
[17:14] <ring0> c++ with qt. done
[17:14] <Jaxana> brainzap: arduino?
[17:15] <Habbie> brainzap, perhaps they thought you were not serious - so many people do exactly this with a pi
[17:16] <ali1234> it really isn't suitable at all
[17:16] <ali1234> people use it for all kinds of things it isn't suitable for
[17:16] <brainzap> If you had a sensor you would rely on, would you put it inside a WiFi?
[17:16] <GenteelBen> ring0: I'm not a huge fan of Qt but it gets the job done.
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[17:17] <ali1234> you never rely on a sensor
[17:17] <GenteelBen> brainzap, it could be used as a home automation device...but I'd much rather just buy a reliable off-the-shelf device with software and support.
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[17:17] <ali1234> exactly. turnkey.
[17:17] <GenteelBen> ali1234: not even the sensor in a smoke alarm?
[17:17] <ali1234> if you care at all about it working
[17:17] <GenteelBen> Also, stop saying "turnkey".
[17:17] <GenteelBen> Don't make me go all cloud burst on your jargony ass.
[17:18] <ali1234> why would you connect a sensor in a smoke alarm to a computer?
[17:18] <GenteelBen> To trigger a false alarm in the houses of people you hate.
[17:18] <brainzap> got any recomendations for the home automation crowd?
[17:19] <ali1234> if you have a fire detector and a sprinkler system and you put a turning complete system between them, you are an idiot
[17:19] <ali1234> *turing
[17:19] <Habbie> wow, can we keep it a bit friendly perhaps?
[17:19] <Habbie> nobody suggested doing fire safety with a pi
[17:19] <brainzap> actually...
[17:20] <ring0> GenteelBen, qt gives you a nice gui for windows, linux and mac. besides no need for the visual bloat ide at all
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[17:23] <brainzap> stay away from my OSX with your dirty cross platform
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[17:24] <Jaxana> brainzap: Then for home automation what board do you suggest?
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[17:24] <Habbie> brainzap, friendly, please
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[17:25] <brainzap> Jaxana: it sounds like you are really at the beginng, so its better to use a pi
[17:25] <GenteelBen> ring0 let's be honest, Qt's GUI looks pretty bad. But at least it's not as bad as the visual abortion that is the Java GUI library.
[17:25] <brainzap> gets you up faster, and later when you are ready to deploy, you may switch to another arm based platform
[17:25] <Habbie> that's sound advice from brainzap
[17:26] <Jaxana> brainzap: but which one do you suggest?
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[18:12] <ring0> GenteelBen, no. i disagree, i do like qt's look
[18:14] <shiftplusone> Doesn't qt just look native on macos and windows?
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[18:15] <ali1234> it looks native everywhere
[18:15] <ali1234> except maybe android
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[18:16] <shiftplusone> I don't think there is 'native' on linux.
[18:17] <shiftplusone> it's kind of what gtk, qt and themes make it, which can be completely inconsistent across applications.
[18:17] <oracularmoufflon> Hi, so I'm trying to use the GPIO pins on my rpi zero to control a relay. The problem is whenever I set the the pin to an output it activates the relay. Any ideas?
[18:18] <shiftplusone> How is it connected to the relay?
[18:18] <ali1234> Qt has QGtkStyle
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[18:20] <ali1234> Gtk has no equivalent because they removed all the cross platform style code from Qt
[18:20] <ali1234> er from Gtk
[18:21] <oracularmoufflon> shiftplusone: 5v, ground and the IN pin
[18:21] <ali1234> now it only has two supported themes and looks the same on every platform
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[18:22] <shiftplusone> Yes... not a fan of the direction Gtk is going in. "Everything must look the way we say and no, your scrollbars must be stupid"
[18:23] <shiftplusone> (the PIXEL dev had a lot of fun with it)
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[18:28] <methuzla> oracularmoufflon: what is the relay? link to details?
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[18:30] * shiftplusone is expecting a fried gpio pin.
[18:32] <oracularmoufflon> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/262722739443?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT It's the 5v single relay, bought from this link
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[18:33] <methuzla> so this? http://i.frg.im/LMZHeD8c/1chan2-0.jpg
[18:33] <oracularmoufflon> Yup
[18:34] <methuzla> VCC to 5V, GND to GND, IN to GPIO
[18:34] <methuzla> relay to pi connection is that?
[18:34] <oracularmoufflon> It is
[18:34] <gordonDrogon> oracularmoufflon, I know what's wrong with your relay board.
[18:35] <gordonDrogon> everyone else - you might want to know too...
[18:35] <oracularmoufflon> Do tell
[18:35] <gordonDrogon> I've seen many of these and like this.
[18:35] <oracularmoufflon> Uh oh
[18:35] <gordonDrogon> firstly the relay board is feeding 5v into the GPIO pins. Hurrah.
[18:35] <gordonDrogon> it's wired: 5v -> resistor -> LED (opto) -> pin .... -> Pi GPIO pin
[18:36] <IT_Sean> yeah, that's a good way to make them go crispy duck.
[18:36] <IT_Sean> GPIO pins do not like 5v. ...at least, not for very long, anyway :p
[18:36] <gordonDrogon> when you make the pin output and set it high, the 3.3v can't drive the thing hard enough, so the relay board pushes 5v into the Pi.
[18:36] <gordonDrogon> so... test this by doing the following:
[18:36] * oracularmoufflon Starts unplugging relay
[18:36] <gordonDrogon> gpio mode 0 in
[18:37] <gordonDrogon> that ought to turn the relay off (on pin 0/17/11)
[18:37] <gordonDrogon> then if you: gpio write 0 0 ; gpio mode 0 out
[18:37] <gordonDrogon> the relay might go on.
[18:37] <gordonDrogon> then turn it off by gpio mode 0 in
[18:37] <gordonDrogon> basically you bought a cheap relay board from someone who lied about it working with the Raspberry Pi. Sadly this happens a lot.
[18:38] <oracularmoufflon> Dammit, thanks for letting me know.
[18:38] <oracularmoufflon> Is there a work around or?
[18:38] <gordonDrogon> well, you can use the mode swithc in/out as a workaround - make sure the pin is set to a low output (gpio write $pin 0)
[18:39] <gordonDrogon> that's the least likely way to fry the Pi, however it still has 5v on the pin when its in input mode.
[18:39] <gordonDrogon> although the protection diodes mostly help here.
[18:39] <oracularmoufflon> I think I'll keep on the cautious side and leave it. Can you recommend a good relay?
[18:39] <gordonDrogon> PiFace
[18:40] <gordonDrogon> there are not many relay boards for the Pi though.
[18:41] <oracularmoufflon> I see, thanks.
[18:41] <gordonDrogon> how many outputs do you need to switch?
[18:41] <oracularmoufflon> Just the one
[18:41] <oracularmoufflon> For now
[18:41] <oracularmoufflon> I was just messing
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[18:43] <gordonDrogon> https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/automation-phat
[18:43] <gordonDrogon> http://skpang.co.uk/catalog/4ch-relay-board-kit-for-raspberry-pi-quick2wire-compatible-p-1200.html
[18:43] <gordonDrogon> https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/automation-hat
[18:43] <gordonDrogon> for some ideas.
[18:44] <oracularmoufflon> Thanks a bunch, I think I'll grab one of those soon
[18:45] <gordonDrogon> I know people using these relay boards (and similar) using the mode in/out trick and they seem to be getting away with it, but I've never rely on it myself.
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[18:47] <oracularmoufflon> If I get impatient I'll give it a shot, I appreciate the help, got to go, see you
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[18:52] <newbie123> I am using Kodi under Raspbian ... Kodi opens but there is no response from keyboard or mouse .. The only way out is hard reset
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[18:54] <lopta> newbie123: Do you have sshd running? I'm wondering whether your Pi is locking up completely or whether you can still ssh into it.
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[18:54] <shiftplusone> newbie123: are they regular corded usb devices?
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[18:55] <newbie123> lopta, The mouse is usb wireless ..and the keyboard is wired usb
[18:55] <newbie123> shiftplusone, ^^
[18:55] <shiftplusone> sec
[18:55] <newbie123> OKay
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[18:57] <shiftplusone> It would be good to know whether the /etc/udev/rules.d/99-input.rules file from https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=99866 helps. Ignore the rest of the post.
[18:57] <newbie123> shiftplusone, # cat /etc/udev/rules.d/99-input.rules
[18:57] <newbie123> cat: /etc/udev/rules.d/99-input.rules: No such file or directory
[18:58] <shiftplusone> I know, I don't expect the file to already exist.
[18:58] <shiftplusone> is this regular raspbian?
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[18:58] <newbie123> jessie
[18:58] <shiftplusone> yeah, but downloaded from raspberrypi.org recently?
[18:58] <newbie123> Yes
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[18:59] <shiftplusone> ok
[18:59] <shiftplusone> so yeah, add the file with the right content, reboot and check whether that made any difference
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[19:01] <newbie123> Rebooting BRB
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[19:07] <newbie123> shiftplusone, http://paste2.org/AXHBXbfn ....old problem returns .. kodi wont launch
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[19:10] <polprog> newbie123: looks like an error in kodi now
[19:10] <polprog> try reinstalling it fully, but run "apt update" before
[19:11] <polprog> or apt-get update, whatever floats you boat
[19:11] <newbie123> polprog, I just upgraded it by doing dist-upgrade
[19:11] <polprog> hmm
[19:11] <polprog> well, imo it's unfixable easily
[19:12] <polprog> as you can read the problem is in kodi.bin file
[19:12] <polprog> can you post that crashlog mentioned in that output?
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[19:13] <shiftplusone> wait
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[19:13] <shiftplusone> I didn't notice this before: [E] Failed to initialize VCHI (ret=-1)
[19:14] <newbie123> polprog, http://paste2.org/mssysz1B
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[19:14] <shiftplusone> Does running 'sudo vcdbg log msg' give the same sort of error?
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[19:16] <newbie123> http://paste2.org/nnfsfHaC shiftplusone
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[19:16] <shiftplusone> so that's fine.
[19:16] <shiftplusone> sec
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[19:16] <newbie123> Okay
[19:16] <polprog> newbie123: as i thought, kodi craps itself
[19:17] <newbie123> polprog, Meaning /
[19:17] <newbie123> ?
[19:17] <polprog> newbie123: the error is a programming error, not your system
[19:17] <polprog> it's kodi that's broken :/
[19:17] <shiftplusone> newbie123: where does the VCHI message come from? I don't see it in the full log you posted? Was that just output to terminal?
[19:18] <newbie123> shiftplusone, That was when I typed kodi in the terminal and hit enter
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[19:18] <polprog> newbie123: are you running regular raspbian?
[19:18] <newbie123> polprog, Installed using noobs
[19:19] <polprog> newbie123: consider openelec (or whatever it's called now), a distro for making media centers
[19:19] <polprog> sorry, i think openelec is the program (??). anyway there are special distros for media centers
[19:19] <newbie123> polprog, Can I install openelec inside RAspbian ?
[19:20] <at0m> polprog: it only provides openelec though, no other packages unlike raspbian..
[19:20] <polprog> i'd say go for a dedicated media distro, make it on a second card if you need raspbian?
[19:20] <at0m> such optimized distro was useful back in the rpi1 days, but now..
[19:21] <polprog> but as you can see he's trying to setup kodi for the past 2 days
[19:21] <at0m> oh. get the .deb from debian repo's instead maybe?
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[19:21] <polprog> in my experience mixing repos is a bad idea
[19:22] <polprog> i think twice now even when i need to add a ppa on my ubuntu box
[19:22] <at0m> ppa's is a total different thing. zero supervision or coordination comes to mind.
[19:22] <shiftplusone> newbie123: talked to the kodi expert here. "It could be anything" =P
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[19:23] <shiftplusone> Have you installed anything unusual
[19:23] <shiftplusone> from outside of apt, for example?
[19:23] <newbie123> Nope
[19:23] <shiftplusone> this just happens on a clean raspbian install?
[19:23] <newbie123> Yes
[19:23] <shiftplusone> raspbian or raspbian lite?
[19:23] <newbie123> Raspbian
[19:24] <shiftplusone> in console or in X?
[19:24] <newbie123> X
[19:24] <shiftplusone> Okay, I'll try to reproduce it.
[19:24] <polprog> try running it from tty, closing x before
[19:24] <polprog> i dont know if kodi starts x itself or is a window application
[19:24] <newbie123> polprog, How do I close X ?
[19:25] <polprog> something like end session, logout. i don't remember really ;)
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[19:26] <shiftplusone> sudo systemctl stop lightdm
[19:26] <newbie123> BRB
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[19:28] <shauno> anyone else getting 403's on thepihut.com ?
[19:29] <Habbie> shauno, some random clicking around works for me
[19:29] <polprog> shauno: works for me
[19:29] <shauno> hm
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[19:30] <shauno> oh, fine here too now. wasn't sure if they were having a funny 5 minutes, or if they really didn't like me
[19:30] <newbie123> shiftplusone, That introduced a new problem .. On the termianl my keyboard layout had changed completely
[19:31] <newbie123> COuldnt type kodi
[19:31] <polprog> what do you mean
[19:31] <newbie123> polprog, When I try to type kodi all random letters appear
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[19:34] <polprog> umm. i suppose you have a qwerty keyboard?
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[19:35] <newbie123> polprog, Frankly I dont know if its qwerty ...Its Dell kb212-b
[19:36] <shiftplusone> what does the top row of letters look like?
[19:36] <polprog> newbie123: you could try to blindly type in some commands to change the layout... i think US layout is ok
[19:38] <newbie123> shiftplusone, I am back to X now ...But it was all random ..some letters even produced numbers
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[19:38] <shiftplusone> did you hit the numlock key on a laptop that has numbers mixed with letters?
[19:38] <newbie123> No this is Desktop ... I didnt use the keypad
[19:39] <newbie123> numpad
[19:39] <newbie123> sorry
[19:39] <shiftplusone> sorry, my mind was elsewhere, no idea why I said laptop
[19:39] <shauno> I actually thought it was a pretty good guess. I was trying to figure out how he might have accidentally dvorak all the things
[19:39] <polprog> i have absoluteyl no idea why would that tty stuff happen
[19:40] <shauno> but usually if my terminal's gone all spaghetti on me, I'd try running 'reset' on its own to see if it comes back
[19:40] <polprog> except for setting dvorak/colemak/clusterfork as the tty layout :D
[19:40] <shiftplusone> just finished an install of raspbian through noobs, installed kodi. It's working fine
[19:41] <shauno> (reset is tset's sibling, not reboot related, and doesn't need sudo)
[19:41] <polprog> gtg, good luck
[19:41] <shiftplusone> aye, I use reset sometimes... after accidentally catting a binary file or something that screws up the terminal
[19:41] <shauno> heh, yeah, usually exactly that
[19:41] <polprog> try to blindly type "reset", as shauno said, newbie123
[19:42] <newbie123> shiftplusone, I think I will install raspbian and OSMC as dual boot using noobs
[19:42] <shiftplusone> yeah, or libreelec
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[19:42] <newbie123> OKay.. Thanks a lot
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[19:42] <shiftplusone> strange problems
[19:43] <shauno> any chance pimoroni release schematics of their phats? I don't seem to be turning up anything
[19:43] <shiftplusone> Everything they have should be here, I think. https://github.com/pimoroni
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[20:01] <RoyK> hm... setting up latest raspbian on a pi3 to have it act as a router, I've configured /etc/network/interfaces to manual - still eth0 gets its address from dhcp - I can't find anything about this in dhcpcd.conf either - any ideas?
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[20:02] <RoyK> I'll need the dhcp client for the ip address config from the router
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[20:03] <shiftplusone> RoyK: there was a message on top of that file which you seem to have ignored. That's alright, you should be able to just disable the dhcpcd service
[20:04] <shiftplusone> wait
[20:04] <shiftplusone> sorry, I didn't read your question properly.
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[20:04] <shiftplusone> But I'm off, good luck.
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[20:10] <shauno> RoyK: eth0 isn't the interface that wants the router? so you want static on one and dhcpcd on another?
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[20:11] <RoyK> shauno: eth0 is the one on the LAN where I want a static address, eth1 will be connected to the router, that is, the bridge once that's in bridge mode
[20:12] <shauno> I find it easiest just to stick the static assignment in dhcpcd.conf. trying to fight it never seems to go well for me - either let it rule everything, or turn it off completely. so something like: interface eth0 / static ip_address=1.2.3.4 / static routers=1.2.3.1 / static domain_name_servers=1.2.3.1
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[20:12] <RoyK> Has anything changed in the latest raspbian? I have ip addresses configured in /etc/network/interfaces on others
[20:13] <shauno> (I have a similar problem where I want my IP via dhcp but not my gateway. dhcpcd just looooves that)
[20:13] <RoyK> why on earth change things that work and have worked for 20 years? :P
[20:14] <shauno> I changed nothing. I simply present the solution that caused me the least friction (with no promises that it's the best way, either :)
[20:14] <Habbie> if you want more control
[20:14] <Habbie> switch to dhclient
[20:15] <BurtyB> RoyK, sticking "denyinterfaces eth0" in /etc/dhcpcd.conf will stop it messing with it
[20:16] <RoyK> BurtyB: thanks - will try :)
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[20:16] <shauno> I swear there's a law of the internet, that help comes faster when you're wrong ;) that seems much more straight-forward than mine
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[20:17] <m_t> Is anyone here running Android Things on the Raspberry Pi 3? I'm trying to talk to an LM75 temperature sensor in a native app. When I call the I2C functions directly from the main function (see https://github.com/m-thu/android-things/blob/master/lm75-native/app/src/main/cpp/lm75-native.cpp#L17), everything works fine.
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[20:18] <m_t> When I try to use the functions from a class, this assertion fails: https://github.com/m-thu/android-things/blob/master/lm75-native/app/src/main/cpp/lm75.cpp#L45 , although i2c_device gets successfully initialized in the constructor. Any clues on why this happens?
[20:18] <newbie123> shiftplusone, polprog Followed this guide from top to bottom and now Kodi works ...
[20:18] <newbie123> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=99866
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[20:28] <RoyK> looks like an auto eth0 helped a bit - it still got an additional address from dhcp, though, so denyinterfaces helped for that - this should be fixed - /etc/network/interfaces is the place to configure this
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[23:52] <cnnx> anyone have a rpi zero?
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[23:52] <methuzla> yes
[23:53] <cnnx> i dont see it on amazon.ca
[23:53] <cnnx> do they not sell it?
[23:53] <methuzla> that i do not know
[23:53] <cnnx> can it do wifi?
[23:53] <methuzla> zero no, not without additional hardware
[23:53] <methuzla> zero w, yes
[23:54] <cnnx> methuzla: what about add a usb dongle for cellular modem
[23:54] <cnnx> which one can do that
[23:54] <methuzla> either i guess, they both have a usb otg port
[23:54] <cnnx> the rpi zero must be a lot slower than rpi 3b?
[23:55] <methuzla> yes
[23:55] <methuzla> or no
[23:55] <methuzla> depending on what 'a lot' means
[23:55] <cnnx> is it best suited for a solar power installation?
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[23:56] <mlelstv> you can melt any pi with a proper solar power installation
[23:56] <methuzla> define 'best'
[23:56] <cnnx> mlelstv: melt?
[23:56] <cnnx> i dont get the usb otg? u need an adapter to use usb, why not just integerate usb into the deivce in the first place?
[23:56] <mlelstv> sun, parabolic reflector, heat
[23:57] <cnnx> mlelstv: not looking to melt anhything
[23:57] <mlelstv> I would call that a solar power installation :)
[23:57] <methuzla> it is integrated
[23:57] <cnnx> but you cant plug usb directly
[23:57] <cnnx> you need an adapter wire
[23:58] <methuzla> sounds like you want a pi3
[23:58] <cnnx> consumes more power
[23:59] <methuzla> pi2 then
[23:59] <cnnx> old tech
[23:59] <methuzla> zero is older
[23:59] <cnnx> ok
[23:59] <cnnx> bigger solar panel hten
[23:59] <cnnx> and rpi 3b
[23:59] <cnnx> lol
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