#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2017-04-30

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[0:00] <jancoow> dreamon: omxplayer does have a great integration with hardware acceleration, does mpv also ahve that?
[0:00] <dreamon> I used a actually version of mpv .. its great
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[0:00] <dreamon> jancoow, there is a version for pi out there. that support hardware acceleration
[0:02] <dreamon> give it a try. hope you have success
[0:02] <jancoow> thanks I will try :D
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[0:03] <jancoow> But after running omxplayer in screen i've suddenly no issue's :/
[0:03] <dreamon> mpv you can configure keystrokes very easy. so you can do a lot of nice stuff with it
[0:03] <tabakhase> hmpf im lost now... same issue with the image from november :/
[0:03] <webwolf> Anyone here use a PI as a media streamer, specifically from a NAS to the TV using Android as a remote. preferably streaming to Chromecast (lack of ports).
[0:03] <tabakhase> no ssh over wlan, everything else works.
[0:06] <tabakhase> ive been ssh onto them for the past days without issue... dont understand...
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[0:09] <dreamon> tabakhase, had the same issue..
[0:09] <tabakhase> and....? :D
[0:10] <tabakhase> what did ya do? well aimed toss in the corner is not on the list of options...
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[0:10] <oq> tabakhase: can you ping it over wlan?
[0:10] <dreamon> I fixed it.. but cannot remember.. I googled for it and found a solution
[0:10] <tabakhase> oq i can ping, im connected via VNC, and im watching a video stream of it in my browser
[0:10] <dreamon> raspbian newest image.. ?
[0:11] <tabakhase> just no ssh :D - not in, not out.
[0:11] <oq> tabakhase: can you ssh over ethernet?
[0:11] <tabakhase> dreamon newest (26th onlineinstall 6 hours ago) - all the way down to a noobs image from november i had arround
[0:11] <tabakhase> oq yeps
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[0:12] <oq> tabakhase: is the firmware fully up to date?
[0:12] <dreamon> searching..
[0:12] <tabakhase> dreamon have yours nearby? maybe see if there is smth jumping in your eye on etc/interfaces or sysctl.d...
[0:13] <tabakhase> oq see above, latestlatest as well as older i just tried
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[0:13] <oq> tabakhase: that is peculiar,
[0:13] <tabakhase> ive installed a pie over the air on the 24th, there ssh via wlan was 100% working..
[0:13] <dreamon> all I remember is edit some stuff. give me some time
[0:14] <tabakhase> what bugs my is that also my november image of noobs seems to have the issue...
[0:14] <tabakhase> like it was bugged, fixed, and brke again with the 26th release
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[0:14] <dreamon> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=138631&sid=b77a2ef26dd0a480b5257205de8b86b1&start=125
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[0:16] <dreamon> tabakhase /etc/ssh/sshd_config → IPQoS 0x00
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[0:19] <tabakhase> dreamon hm i had a iptables line that "should do that" from debugging earlyer... that didnt do a thing, but will try with direct insert there...
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[0:19] <tabakhase> on a sidenote, i think my fritzbox should only do QoS to inet, and there SSH is listed as HighPrio already...
[0:21] <tabakhase> shapow....
[0:21] <tabakhase> sooooo, that means the iptables i had from google to "try exacly that" didnt do what they were supposed todo
[0:22] <dreamon> tabakhase, RPI3 I had this issue. A little robocar for my son. I couldnt connect via ssh. after adding als worked as it should.
[0:22] <tabakhase> or only did partially (i ngreped from the "nonsshable" pi and seen my client packets reach it no problem)
[0:24] <tabakhase> dafuuuu man... how did not just me, but like 3 other guys in here spend an hour fuzzing that earlyer.. just cause of a failed QoS testcase that made me (wrongfully) eleminate this as issue -.-
[0:24] <dreamon> I didnt tried to connect over lan.
[0:24] <tabakhase> dont tell anyone....
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[0:25] <dreamon> did it work. sorry english is not my main language ;)
[0:25] <tabakhase> tho, that kinda opens the question "what made it fail"... from basically "one day to another"... - almost..
[0:26] <tabakhase> YES works :D
[0:26] <dreamon> tabakhase, GREAT
[0:26] <tabakhase> i had the same issue yesterday, but rebooting the pi fixed it there, so when that issue came back today i started diggint a bit (was recoeding, so i could only do soft testing)
[0:27] <tabakhase> then was done, i reboot cause "that should fix it" - and got kinda puzzled when it did NOT fix it like it did yesterday
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[0:29] <tabakhase> only thing that changed in my (w)LAN are like 3 new esp-clients, seems that somewhat made my fritzbox to start do QoS on there or smth like that...
[0:29] <tabakhase> but yay, thanks again for recommending another QoS method =)
[0:30] <dreamon> strange.
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[0:50] <tabakhase> fyi Habbie my ssh issue is fixed... sshd_config adding IPQoS did the deal, seems the iptables i used before to "do exacly that" were bogus and made that a broken testcase -.- -- updated all pi´s, now i can ssh in a circle, on wlan =)
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[1:17] <tabakhase> pi3 & camera controll... most stuff i find is mid 2016 about impossibruh for now... that likely should have changed by now hm.. my irCut is on LED :F
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[1:19] <blocky> can i add new nodes to an already-compiled device tree using config.txt?
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[1:35] <Quatroking> Help I plugged my ethernet cord in backwards! Now I'm sending out the internet to everyone else! What do I do?
[1:37] <mrkramps> nuclear first strike, NOW!
[1:37] <deww> sit back and wait for everyone to thank you
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[1:40] <mrkramps> no nuclear first strike?
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[1:51] <KevinCarbonara> I've seen some mini displays for the raspberry pi, anyone here use one of those?
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[1:55] <evil_dan2wik> Is the Pi 1b still supported?
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[1:56] <humbot> i believe so
[1:56] <evil_dan2wik> So, if I flash the SD card I won't be screwed?
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[1:58] <mrkramps> evil_dan2wik, will work
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[2:04] <evil_dan2wik> Cool, thanks
[2:06] <mrkramps> evil_dan2wik, although it depends on the distribution of course
[2:06] <evil_dan2wik> Raspbian
[2:06] <mrkramps> raspbian is compatible with rpi 1 - 3 and 0 as well as 0w
[2:06] <tabakhase> always always always image first...
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[2:18] <tabakhase> naice! https://github.com/6by9/rpi3-gpiovirtbuf/blob/master/rpi3-gpiovirtbuf.c - ircutoff under controll =)
[2:22] <brianx> thank you for paying for my internet service Quatroking
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[3:03] <Psi-Jack> Heh
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[3:49] <tabakhase> and RPi-Cam-Web-Interface PiLight buttons now controll my IRCut, neat =)
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[4:40] <bemasher> is anyone aware of any pi camera motion detection applications that use the motion estimation vectors from the h.264 encoder?
[4:40] <bemasher> i've not been able to find any
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[4:56] <Psi-Jack> Well, now I have my ESP8266 logging to my RPi3 syslog server via syslog protocol. :D
[4:57] <nacelle> nice
[4:58] <dan2wik> I updated the firmware on my solar invertor and it blew up :\
[4:58] <Psi-Jack> Well.. Umm, that sucks.
[4:59] <dan2wik> I wanted to fix the issue with the frozen serial port but now I think the port will be frozen forever
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[5:11] <Psi-Jack> Heh.
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[5:11] <Psi-Jack> Well, I'm just debugging why my controlPin for my garage door softlock isn't apparently working at all.
[5:11] <Psi-Jack> Hence, syslog needs, because I don't want to drag a laptop out to my garage to look at the serial logs while testing. ;)
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[5:14] <Psi-Jack> Wow...
[5:14] <Psi-Jack> I think.. I might know... why...
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[5:16] <Psi-Jack> I think, it was because during my GarageCtl::begin() function, I was setting pins as output only if they were defined accordingly, but I configured those pins /after/ calling my begin function.
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[5:17] <Psi-Jack> But, hmm, no... I'm setting those pins appropriately within the setControlPins function itself so should be good.
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[7:17] <Crom> https://pastebin.com/Rndt0gaz updated and compiling! Linuxcnc to Arduino MEga via ethernet.
[7:17] <Crom> gotta fix the .py and .hal now
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[7:27] <reogl> Hi all, I'm trying to do a bare metal GPIO test program using the RPI3... I can't figure out the actual address space of these GPIO registers though
[7:28] <nacelle> why did you change nicks?
[7:29] <nacelle> < err19211> Hi all, I'm trying to do a bare metal GPIO test program using the RPI3... I can't figure out the actual address space of these GPIO registers though
[7:29] <reogl> the 2835 doc says 0x7E20..., online I find 0x3F20... and the example uses 0x2020...
[7:29] <reogl> @nacelle I asked that on #raspbian via webchat, but this channel needed auth so I logged in via irssi
[7:29] <reogl> I didn't know that messages from #raspbian were forwarded here
[7:29] <nacelle> ahhhhhhhh
[7:29] <nacelle> they arent
[7:29] <nacelle> i'm on #raspbian too
[7:29] <reogl> I figured this was a better channel to ask than raspbian
[7:30] <nacelle> thats very spam bot like behavior :-)
[7:30] <reogl> if that's what it takes to figure out what's going on I'll take it :p
[7:31] <reogl> but the question still stands... none of those address spaces worked for me
[7:31] <nacelle> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8476
[7:31] <nacelle> https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/wiringpi/ etc.
[7:32] <nacelle> i dont even know, i dont access gpio in a way that I need to pay attention
[7:32] <nacelle> (but i'm not doing anything fast/fancy)
[7:33] <reogl> so i'll look at those sources sure
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[7:34] <reogl> but, where is actually accurate documentation? if the 2835 isn't to be trusted from broadcom
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[7:36] <nacelle> 2835 != rpi3 ?
[7:36] <reogl> right, but I've read everywhere that the 2837 is the same as the 2836 with some small additions which is the same as the 2835?
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[7:37] <nacelle> read this, please: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=142439
[7:37] <reogl> maybe that is wrong, but that's what I've been able to find on the matter
[7:37] <nacelle> it covers it
[7:37] <nacelle> its wrong
[7:37] <nacelle> the pi2/pi3 use different address definitions
[7:37] <nacelle> basically compatible, but not quite the same thing
[7:38] <nacelle> i'll save you some time:
[7:38] <nacelle> " It is all to do with how much memory they have. The Pi 1 (and Zero) has a maximum of 512MB from 0x00000000 to 0x1FFFFFFF, so the IO base was set to be just above that.
[7:38] <nacelle> The Pi 2 and 3 have 1024MB of memory from 0x00000000 to 0x3FFFFFFF, so you'd expect the IO base to be at 0x40000000 - but that memory range is not available, so the IO address was set to 0x3F000000 instead and the last 1MB of memory was sacrificed to allow the IO to work (so they really only have 1023MB of memory available). It's the best compromise possible with the current chip design. "
[7:39] <reogl> right, so I've tried the 0x3F20... for the GPIO funcsel/set/clear registers
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[7:39] <reogl> is this documented anywhere official?
[7:39] <nacelle> -shrug-
[7:40] <nacelle> probably??
[7:41] <reogl> well it didn't work for me... I will keep searching around the forums but I'm kind of surprised there's not more official doc
[7:42] <reogl> anyways, I will take a look at the sources of the abstraction layers on top of this IO stuff and hopefully it'll have the right stuff, thanks for the pointer :)
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[12:09] <jancoow> Hi. Is the video core of the pi Zero the same as the videocore in the pi 3 ?
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[12:31] <oq> jancoow: all have a videocore iv afaik
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[13:31] <alexandre9099> hi, i'm trying to install php7/7.1 with apache on my Pi, but when i start apache it fails with a segmentation fault :/ i have the "http://repozytorium.mati75.eu/raspbian" repo for the php7/67.1
[13:31] <alexandre9099> *7.1
[13:40] <ShorTie> what is so special about that repo if i can ask ??
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[13:46] <alexandre9099> dont know, it just have the last php versions
[13:46] <alexandre9099> the default does not
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[13:48] <alexandre9099> ShorTie: just that
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[13:56] <Quatroking> any way to get WOL working on the Raspberry Pi 3b?
[13:57] <alexandre9099> i dont think so, the ethernet is connected to a usb hub, i guess
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[13:57] <Quatroking> even on the rpi 3?
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[13:58] <alexandre9099> yep, i think that's right :/ the thing you maybe can do is use a arduino connected to the GPIO to recive the WOL request and power up the RPi
[13:58] <Quatroking> on wikipedia it says that the rpi3 uses its own chip
[13:59] <alexandre9099> i'll check, but i think it is connected to a usb hub
[13:59] <Quatroking> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi#Networking
[13:59] <Quatroking> or is that just the wlan
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[14:00] <alexandre9099> i think the wlan is built in on the SoC, the ethernet is usb, the chip is SMSC9512/9514
[14:01] <Quatroking> ah
[14:01] <alexandre9099> output from "sudo lsusb -v | grep net": Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0424:ec00 Standard Microsystems Corp. SMSC9512/9514 Fast Ethernet Adapter
[14:01] <alexandre9099> idProduct 0xec00 SMSC9512/9514 Fast Ethernet Adapter
[14:01] <Quatroking> oh well guess I'll just keep it running at all times lolll
[14:02] <Quatroking> it's not like my overall power usage is that big, anyways
[14:02] <alexandre9099> i think that is to make the RPi cheap, and that's also why they dont have gigabit ethernet
[14:02] <Quatroking> Yeah it makes sense from a monatary view
[14:02] <alexandre9099> yea, the RPi uses almost no energy, 10W max on normal usage :)
[14:03] <Quatroking> biggest power users in my house is my microwave, my desktop and my tv
[14:03] <alexandre9099> but as i saied, i think you can use a arduino or other kind of microontroller to recive the WOL signal and then power on the RPi
[14:04] <Quatroking> Yeah I guess I can do that but honestly I am too lazy to set that up
[14:04] <alexandre9099> XD
[14:04] <alexandre9099> i never tried doing that, i dont even know if it is possible, but i think it is possible
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[14:09] <Quatroking> I wonder if I still have a button laying around, then I don't have to replug the power all the time
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[14:11] <alexandre9099> :D yea, you can just stick it across the RST
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[14:18] <Quatroking> anyone here know samba mounting?
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[14:18] <Quatroking> "sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.101/RetroPie/roms /home/pi/RetroPie/roms
[14:18] <Quatroking> " works for me
[14:18] <alexandre9099> so if it works, why you ask? :D
[14:18] <Quatroking> but "//192.168.1.101/RetroPie/roms /home/pi/RetroPie/roms cifs username=debian,password=123deb,nounix,noserverino,defaults,users,auto 0 0" in fstab fails
[14:19] <Quatroking> don't worry about that password btw, that's fake lol
[14:19] <alexandre9099> XD
[14:19] <Quatroking> when mounted through fstab it tells me that the directory doesn't exist
[14:20] <Lartza> I've always used the share name and not the ip, and the mount option ip=192.168.1.101
[14:20] <Lartza> *comuter name
[14:20] <Quatroking> so like //DEBIAN/RetroPie/roms etc. etc.
[14:20] <Quatroking> ?
[14:21] <Quatroking> I can try that I guess
[14:21] <Lartza> If the machine name to smb is DEBIAN, yes
[14:21] <Quatroking> Alright, lets try
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[14:22] <alexandre9099> if mount <the address of the machine> works then the fstab entry is working :)
[14:23] <Lartza> It should yeah :/
[14:23] <Quatroking> well the hostname didn't mount at all
[14:26] <alexandre9099> then try the IP
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[14:26] <alexandre9099> maybe the router is not resolving the host correctly
[14:26] <kerio> are you sure you should be using cifs and not smb?
[14:27] <Quatroking> frankly I have no idea, kerio, but that's what I assumed after googling a bunch lol
[14:27] <Quatroking> and it works when I mount from the terminal
[14:28] <kerio> shouldn't you mount it "late" or something
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[14:28] <Quatroking> when I use the IP in fstab I get "cannot access roms: No such file or directory"
[14:28] <Quatroking> How would I do that?
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[14:28] <kerio> is the network properly initialized by the time the stuff in fstab gets mounted?
[14:28] <kerio> Quatroking: the easiest but kludgy solution would be to put the whole "mount" command line in /etc/rc.local
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[14:29] <Quatroking> Basically I need it mounted after the network is running but before emulationstation runs
[14:32] <alexandre9099> Quatroking: about the WOL, the chip seems to support WOL, but the RPi PCB is not wired to do that :(
[14:32] <alexandre9099> "10/100 Ethernet controller supports numerous power management wakeup features, including Magic Packet™, Wake-on LAN (WOL) and Link Status Change"
[14:33] * Lartza shudders after hearing rc.local
[14:33] <Lartza> Why do people use rc.local for anything nowadays
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[14:34] <Lartza> cifs works just fine in fstab, you possibly want to make systemd mount it when the network is ready
[14:34] <alexandre9099> because it just works ?
[14:34] <Lartza> and you should use cifs not smb
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[14:36] <Lartza> I'm not sure why raspbian even has rc.local
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[14:40] <gordonDrogon> because it's traditional.
[14:43] <mrkramps> systemd ships a rc.local.service faik … for compatibility
[14:43] <gordonDrogon> and some people don't use systemd.
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[14:45] <mrkramps> but actually systemd units are pretty nice
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[14:45] <mrkramps> after all it is linux and you can do whatevery works ;)
[14:45] <gordonDrogon> which is one of the main benefits from my point of view.
[14:46] <gordonDrogon> user choice.
[14:46] <Lartza> systemd does not ship rc.local on arch at least
[14:46] <gordonDrogon> that's a decision of the arch team more than anything else.
[14:46] <Lartza> Possibly
[14:46] <gordonDrogon> (from what I gather anyway)
[14:47] <Lartza> All of the rc.local stuff for arch are third party though
[14:47] <Lartza> That is available for user install
[14:47] <Lartza> It's just a single service file but still :P
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[14:48] <Lartza> oh the file might be from systemd it's just not fetched from there...
[14:48] <mrkramps> yeah, but debian ships is
[14:48] <mrkramps> *it
[14:48] <mrkramps> a simple unit executing /etc/rc.local
[14:48] <gordonDrogon> its handy for quick hacks - I tend to use it when testing stuff before writing an init.d script for it.
[14:49] <mrkramps> on the other hand you could use this unit to execute just any script at startup
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[14:49] <Lartza> systemd service is only a few lines so I just write one for everything :)
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[14:57] <alexandre9099> i dont understand why some people dont like systemd, but it is pretty easy to use :)
[15:00] <Encrypt> alexandre9099, Because distros are now GNU/Linux/Systemd
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[15:03] <Quatroking> I don't like networking
[15:03] <Quatroking> can you guess why
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[15:04] <Lartza> Encrypt, That's not really a reason to not like it?
[15:04] <Lartza> It works, it fixes a lot of issues, it's widely adopted
[15:04] <Encrypt> Lartza, Yeah
[15:04] <Encrypt> Lartza, Actually, I don't really know whether we should like or hate it
[15:05] <Encrypt> The problem with systemd is that it is eating all the tools we used to use
[15:05] <Lartza> The crappy tools that don't work or something actually good?
[15:05] <Lartza> :P
[15:05] <alexandre9099> Encrypt: and is that bad?
[15:05] <Encrypt> It doesn't go well with the UNIX philosophy, in which each tool is supposed to do well a precise function
[15:05] <gordonDrogon> vrappy tools - like you know, ntpd, cron, that have been just fine for about 30 years - maybe it's time for change ... who knows.
[15:06] <alexandre9099> now you only need one tool to do a lot of stuff
[15:06] <gordonDrogon> and when it goes wrong, you just turn it off and on again ...
[15:06] <gordonDrogon> I prefer the old way, but then, I'm old ...
[15:07] <Encrypt> But on the other hand, I have to admit it works well (for the moment)
[15:07] <Encrypt> And creating / following the state of services is simple
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[15:11] <Quatroking> alexandre9099, kerio, Lartza, I got it running yay
[15:11] <kerio> yay
[15:11] <Lartza> alexandre9099, I remember ntpd being incompatible on arch because it didn't have updates, or maybe it was openntpd
[15:11] <Lartza> Sorry wrong person
[15:11] <Lartza> gordonDrogon, ^
[15:11] <Quatroking> all I did was move the credentials to an external file and remove all the other options
[15:11] <Quatroking> why networking
[15:11] <Quatroking> why
[15:11] <alexandre9099> Quatroking: great, what you did?
[15:12] <Lartza> I still use cron alongside systemd, it doesn't completely replace it even though the timers are usually fine
[15:12] <Quatroking> it's still in fstab
[15:12] <alexandre9099> yea, but what you did different
[15:13] <Lartza> Quatroking, be sure to add nofail as an option
[15:13] <Lartza> Otherwise you will have a hard time
[15:13] <Quatroking> what's that do?
[15:13] <Lartza> Not fail your whole boot when it fails to mount the share
[15:13] <Quatroking> alexandre9099, moved the creds to an external file and got rid of the other stuff
[15:13] <Quatroking> ah ok
[15:13] <Lartza> :D
[15:13] <Lartza> Not fun for network drives
[15:13] <Quatroking> yeah that's a good one, unlikely, but a good one
[15:13] <Lartza> unless you are booting from NFS and need that
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[15:14] <Quatroking> now I just need it to boot up into tty1 instead of tty2 so that I can actually watch it start up the emulators
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[15:16] <Simonides> hi there, has anyone here tried to use the raspberry as an bluetooth audio server?
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[15:26] <Habbie> tabakhase, yay!
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[16:15] <tabakhase> its simpel why people hate systemd, youll end up with "one thing" not beeing updated to work with systemd in all your system stack - so you start "doing it yourself" with some sloppy startup scripts that will sooner or later blow up on you cause you didnt learn anything about systemd, but only copypasteadapted something to "kinda work" -- where then on the other hand, if you go with the
[16:15] <tabakhase> "lets learn it first" the ressources you find are ether again "copypaste this" or "highly technical full manual" and there is pretty much nothing inbetween...
[16:15] <tabakhase> and when all expirience you had with something is fuzzing a bit and then a KAPOW that leaves a mark ;D
[16:16] <gordonDrogon> or you just stick to the way it's worked for the past 20 years ..
[16:16] * petn-randall yawns.
[16:16] <petn-randall> Isn't systemd bashing sooo 2016?
[16:17] <gordonDrogon> who's bashing it?
[16:17] <petn-randall> tabakhase
[16:17] <brianx> bashing the docs available?
[16:18] <gordonDrogon> it sounded like tabakhase was for it there... maybe I mis-read (or gave up reading)
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[16:18] <petn-randall> I personally find writing systemd unit files a piece of cake compared to writing your own init script, since systemd takes care of the dozen of corner cases that make your init script blow up.
[16:18] <gordonDrogon> I think there will always be issues when you have hybrids - no matter what it is - e.g. metric vs imperial, etc.
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[16:19] <gordonDrogon> I also think people over complicate init scripts, however ...
[16:19] <petn-randall> And most discussions about systemd I've seen are 90% FUD, which is why I find most of them tiring.
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[16:19] <tabakhase> if at all im bashing a bit at docs for it... im fine with 1000page man for systemd as thats my job --- its about the "not use it every day guys"
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[16:21] <petn-randall> sysv init is simple and robust because it leaves *all* the hard problems to the admin. You want to track any processes that forked from your main process? Have fun tracking them yourself! Your daemon is buggy and ignores SIGTERM? Find a creative way of coping with that in your init script! etc etc
[16:22] <gordonDrogon> everything's gotten too complex now.
[16:22] <tabakhase> yea, and now look at "who actually implements this correctly"... youll find a few core things, and everything else is init.d scripts hacked to work with it :D
[16:23] <petn-randall> tabakhase: I usually just take the systemd unit file from a daemon that is similar to the one I want to write, then adjust it to my needs. Most important things are in the man pages systemd.unit(5), systemd.service(5) and systemd.exec(5).
[16:23] <tabakhase> that "the first time its hits you in the face" moment and you need to convert something to it __NOW__ --- this now gets harsh when you first spend a day to filter the 2 pages of manual you need out of the 1000 total
[16:23] <gordonDrogon> something much more important now; Sunday Lunch :)
[16:23] <petn-randall> sys init is great because it's been around since the stone age, meaning all the pitfalls are already well known and documented.
[16:24] <petn-randall> *sysv
[16:24] <tabakhase> and usually this happens with something you have even less of an idea about (cause all you know is apt-get install and usually it works :D)
[16:24] <petn-randall> It doesn't imply there aren't any, though :)
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[16:26] <tabakhase> anyhow, the thing was not "why is systemd so bad" - the quest was more about "why do so many hate it" - and thats my answer to that, bad user expirience, NOT bad software (thats a whole other discussion i only do with beer in both our hands :) )
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[16:39] <brianx> my dislike is binary logging in systemd.
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[16:40] <petn-randall> brianx: You can still run rsyslog or whatever else you enjoy.
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[16:43] <brianx> petn-randall: at the cost of double writes, yes.
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[16:45] <brianx> petn-randall: systemd is entirely dependent on it's binary logs to work so you can only add more logging, not remove the binary logs.
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[16:49] <Quatroking> i wonder if I can connect my lasers to my raspberry pi and then make it so that whenever I die in mario, it'll attempt to burn my eyes out
[16:49] <Quatroking> i call it super mario: hardcore mode
[16:51] <Quatroking> it's also expentionally harder because every time you lose your vision decreases
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[17:29] <sasha> hello! i'm writing a script that will set up my project with one command on a new pi
[17:30] <sasha> however i'm struggling to find a way to enable i2c from a bash script and not from raspi-config
[17:30] <sasha> does anyone have an idea how this could be done?
[17:30] <sasha> closest thing so far is http://www.uugear.com/portfolio/a-single-script-to-setup-i2c-on-your-raspberry-pi/ but it doesn't seem to work
[17:33] <kerio> ...raspi-config is a bash script
[17:33] <sasha> hmm
[17:35] <Chillum> code diving time
[17:35] <sasha> yup :D
[17:35] <kerio> it's just adding a dtparam in config.txt, iirc
[17:36] <sasha> there is a dtparam i2c_arm=on in there
[17:36] <sasha> and a modprobe i2c-dev
[17:36] <sasha> also blacklist something but I haven't understood that part yet
[17:37] <Chillum> I have been known to take a fresh install, manually convert it to what I want, then run a diff on the / of that one vs a fresh install
[17:37] <Chillum> and just figure it out that way
[17:38] <sasha> wont there be a ton of things that change though ?
[17:38] <Chillum> easy to ignore irrelevant stuff once you have done it a few times
[17:38] <Chillum> like ignore all log files etc
[17:38] <Chillum> mostly I glean what configs have changes and what packages installed
[17:39] <Chillum> probably not the best way to do it hehe
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[20:31] <Crom> https://pastebin.com/Rndt0gaz updated and compiling! Linuxcnc to Arduino MEga via ethernet.
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[20:37] <Crom> I really want to use a rpi3 for linuxcnc and this way I can do it without a hat
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[20:39] <Chillum> what ist he trick you are using to avoid the need for extra hardware?
[20:41] <finster> hello there. for education purposes i'm owning a set of rpi 3b systems. i do not want to install all the systems manually. so, is there some known good guide out there on how to pxe boot an rpi system? from there i can probably make an installation via fai
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[20:43] <finster> another option could be a pre-made os image. but that would be still less flexible than a network install
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[20:46] <Chillum> raspbian comes in a pre-made image
[20:46] <Chillum> network installing, unless something has changed, is difficult
[20:46] <finster> Chillum: yes, that's what i'm using right now. but i still need to enable ssh on all systems manually
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[20:47] <Chillum> you could just mount the image, enable SSH, then use the modified image
[20:47] <finster> once i have ssh running automatically i can ansible myself out
[20:47] <Chillum> even add a script that sets up an identity based on the DHCP assignment
[20:47] <Chillum> or MAC address
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[20:48] <finster> hmm, maybe editing the base image is worth checking
[20:48] <Chillum> you can mount an image like a drive in pretty much any OS
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[20:52] <finster> hmm, given the official raspbian jessie lite image, there is no syslinux present that could be edited
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[21:06] <alexandre9099> hi, anyone here uses the letsencrypt certificates?
[21:09] <petn-randall> alexandre9099: Just ask your real question.
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[21:09] <alexandre9099> :D i'm trying to use it from the source but it gives me a python error
[21:09] <alexandre9099> wait, going to paste it
[21:10] <petn-randall> "it"
[21:10] <alexandre9099> the output :D
[21:10] <alexandre9099> here is is the full log https://gist.github.com/alex9099/ebc46d3b5f9c4bcd1da8f1a8166f560f
[21:10] <petn-randall> alexandre9099: Which client are you using? There's about a dozen.
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[21:12] <alexandre9099> client? i think it is the official one
[21:13] <alexandre9099> i'll see the git repo that i cloned
[21:13] <alexandre9099> this one https://github.com/certbot/certbot
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[21:17] <kerio> there's no "official" ACME client
[21:17] <petn-randall> alexandre9099: Does raspbian have jessie-backports? It's already packaged there.
[21:18] <alexandre9099> dont know, how can i see that
[21:19] <alexandre9099> kerio: i think that the repo i sent was linked on the lets encrypt website
[21:19] <kerio> yeah, certbot is the most used standalone client
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[21:51] <tabakhase> uhm, is that https://github.com/me-no-dev/RasPiArduino - still the only thing of its form?...
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[21:56] <redab> Whenever I read from physical GPIO pin 3 I only get value HIGH. I tried with both bcm2835 and wiringPi. I can write to this pin to light a LED just fine
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[22:38] <Quatroking> okay I should really order some heatsinks
[22:38] <Quatroking> my rpi is compiling a package for retropie and it's at 83c
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[22:39] <Quatroking> what's the automatic shutdown temp?
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[22:47] <nacelle> it'll start throttling to half speed around 85c iirc
[22:47] <petn-randall> *cough*crosscompile*cough*
[22:48] <nacelle> https://www.reddit.com/r/raspberry_pi/comments/48rudr/got_a_pi_3_help_get_to_the_bottom_of_the_heat_and/
[22:48] <Quatroking> i have no idea what their build instructions are, it's through a script
[22:49] <Quatroking> kinda annoyed that they don't even have binaries for their packages
[22:51] <Quatroking> oh well, I needed to order a button anyways
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[23:10] <CoJaBo> petn-randall: I did a 1-week compile on a Beagleboard once. That was retarded.
[23:10] <CoJaBo> Power kept oing out.
[23:10] <CoJaBo> Fricking ROSJava.
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[23:11] <petn-randall> That's why you compile on a proper system in just 10 minutes.
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[23:14] <CoJaBo> petn-randall: Yeh, except it's ROSJava. It doesn't work under a cross-compiler. Because, reasons.
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[23:31] <GenteelBen> CoJaBo: yo.
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[23:32] <CoJaBo> GenteelBen: .oy
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