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IRC Log for 2017-05-01

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[0:01] <tabakhase> powering esp from my pi makes its analog-in blast of from just touching it ;D not sure if potato...
[0:02] <CoJaBo> i need to get a scope :/
[0:02] <tabakhase> Ozi is sooo much $$$ to put on the bench...
[0:03] <tabakhase> unless you can go with a targeted DIY
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[0:19] <Habbie> tabakhase, i haven't had trouble powering esp from the pi but i did not try the ADC - what part are you touching? :)
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[0:22] <tabakhase> Habbie ;D "nothing" -- pi in wallplug, ground and 3v/5v from that into VIN - AD0 as input, reads (more than 0.2v) cant check exact value right now but thats my trigger level)
[0:22] <tabakhase> not touching anything when i then touch AD0 with my finger it triggers
[0:22] <tabakhase> as does it when touching 3v3 with it (what is what it should do)
[0:22] <Habbie> oh you touch AD0 - no surprise then
[0:23] <methuzla> esp adc is only like 1v
[0:23] <Habbie> indeed
[0:23] <tabakhase> 12E is 3.3
[0:23] <tabakhase> its like "the early 12ers" that only had 1v
[0:24] <tabakhase> and not? -- but why "does it not do that" when i power the esp with wallplug (so no pie in the game) - then i can touch it all day without tripping
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[0:26] <Habbie> i dunno
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[0:30] <brianx> the adc on the esp8266 can only read up to the value of it's reference which is 1v. you have to use a voltage divider or other technique to divide the signal down into the allowable range.
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[0:31] <sware> anyone with experience in mmal know if there's a way to get the resize component to handle yuv data?
[0:31] <tabakhase> 12E is 3v like 100% sure...
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[0:33] <brianx> tmcmahon: the chip itself is a 3.3v chip, but the reference that the adc uses is only 1v or 1.1v. it can't read above it's reference.
[0:33] <tabakhase> and that seems to be some analog flukes... power on PC, cant trip it - power on samsung charger cant trip it - power from Pi trips - power from another usb charger trips as well :D
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[0:37] <brianx> sorry tmcmahon wrong highlight, the above is to tabakhase.
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[0:58] <tabakhase> i read ~980 with 3.27v into it,
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[1:00] <tabakhase> and ~400 with a 1.2v bat
[1:01] <tabakhase> its a fancy nodemcu 12e, pretty sure ive found something even saying that those (other than the rest) have 3v o.O
[1:01] <tabakhase> and last, it would-should have let the smoke out by now if it where 1v :D
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[1:11] <tabakhase> the internet says: "nodemcu boards already have a 3.3v divider on them. So input for A0 is 0-3.3v not 0-1v"
[1:11] <tabakhase> the "newer ones" are that, pposted in Jan.
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[1:14] <methuzla> so it's the board. not the chip. chip is still 1v.
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[1:18] <bemasher> why aren't there many motion detection applications for the pi's camera and the motion estimation vectors available from the hardware h.264 encoder?
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[1:20] <methuzla> pir sensor cheaper than camera?
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[1:20] <bemasher> if you're using it as a security camera you're going to need the camera module anyway?
[1:20] <methuzla> true that.
[1:20] <bemasher> but otherwise, yeah i suppose a PIR would do what you want
[1:21] <methuzla> and think i've seen projects that do that
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[1:21] <bemasher> i actually just finished up proof of concept for one, it's surprisingly low on resource cost
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[1:21] <Rakko> What is a pHAT?
[1:21] <bemasher> https://github.com/bemasher/pmvr
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[1:23] <methuzla> Rakko: small pi zero sized HAT-like add on board
[1:23] <Rakko> oh, thanks
[1:23] <Rakko> surprisingly hard to google for
[1:23] <methuzla> Pimoroni's name for them
[1:24] <methuzla> can't call them HAT's as there's an actual hardware spec that must be followed to do that
[1:24] <Rakko> oh! ok
[1:24] <methuzla> which included physical size same as A+
[1:24] <methuzla> and an eeprom and other things
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[1:25] <methuzla> p = pimoroni? psuedo? pico???? dunno
[1:25] <methuzla> adafruit calls theirs 'bonnets'
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[1:25] <bemasher> cute
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[1:28] <methuzla> bemasher: http://www.lavrsen.dk/foswiki/bin/view/Motion/WebHome
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[1:30] <bemasher> methuzla: i've looked at that, but it doesn't appear to make use of the motion estimation vectors
[1:30] <Rakko> I have to wonder about the name pimoroni too
[1:31] <bemasher> methuzla: though i think there's a fork that uses mmal to directly access the pi camera module
[1:31] <methuzla> maybe that was it
[1:32] <methuzla> just something i saw in passing. never tried it or anything.
[1:33] <methuzla> https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/vectors-from-coarse-motion-estimation/
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[1:34] <methuzla> "In general, this is the mechanism used within the application motion."
[1:35] <bemasher> oh yeah, that's referring to the method, not the actual motion vectors produced by the encoder
[1:35] <methuzla> also remember a blog post with a short video of someone juggling
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[1:36] <bemasher> looks like it was the post you just linked, their image is just broken
[1:36] <methuzla> welp. that's all i've got.
[1:38] <dan2wik> Can the B+ reach 230400 baud?
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[1:39] <brianx> yes
[1:39] <dan2wik> neat thanks
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[1:43] <eggwich> hi
[1:43] <eggwich> so far i have my rpi have a pimoroni led thinger, it goes off on startup and every 15 minutes
[1:43] <eggwich> it has a video cam on it
[1:43] <eggwich> the v2
[1:43] <eggwich> it auto setsup a server
[1:43] <eggwich> streaming it locally at boot
[1:43] <eggwich> autosearches for ap and starts vnc and ssh servers
[1:43] <eggwich> thats it sofar but it hacked some wep
[1:44] <eggwich> and in a diff life did alotof other things
[1:44] <eggwich> controlled a octopi
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[1:44] <eggwich> controlled a bunhc of miners
[1:44] <eggwich> for bitcoins
[1:44] <eggwich> c:
[1:44] <eggwich> i wanna make it into a drone
[1:44] <eggwich> i<3 my pi
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[1:44] <eggwich> what are some good project sfor rpi cam led
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[1:48] <tabakhase> what pi do you have? eggwich
[1:48] <dan2wik> Send it to up on a weather baloon
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[1:49] <eggwich> b?
[1:49] <eggwich> dan2wik +1
[1:49] <eggwich> i always forgot and have to look it up
[1:49] <eggwich> 2.5 or somethign
[1:49] <eggwich> has 2 usb and ether net on one side
[1:50] <eggwich> sd and power other
[1:50] <eggwich> comp and audio one side, hdmi other
[1:50] <eggwich> gipo along the vcompout/audio side
[1:50] <tabakhase> pi3: https://pastebin.com/65TheQNJ -- for pi2 and others https://pastebin.com/t3LhvFq5 its 5 for Model A/B and 32 for Model B+
[1:50] <methuzla> sounds like original B
[1:51] <tabakhase> and i have tooling to hack that into the pi-cam-webinterface if ya need (my IRCut is on LED :D)
[1:51] <eggwich> http://tinyurl.com/RPi-cam-mic-ap-led
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[1:52] <eggwich> what is this for
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[1:53] <dan2wik> Seems like a wifi camera
[1:53] <methuzla> cam = camera. mic = microphone. ap = access point. led = led
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[2:10] <tlvb> needs some wheels
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[2:14] <wookie_> Does anyone here have experience streaming the raspberry pi camera module over socket io so a web browser can watch live?
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[2:14] <bemasher> wookie_: most of the solutions i've seen involve ffmpeg or gstreamer
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[2:15] <wookie_> I've seen those as well, and I think I can get ffmpeg to work, but I don't want to use the ffmpeg server
[2:15] <wookie_> I want to use my own server and use socket io
[2:16] <bemasher> if you want more control you could probably still use your own server in between ffmpeg and the internet/network
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[2:19] <bemasher> wookie_: http://phoboslab.org/log/2013/09/html5-live-video-streaming-via-websockets
[2:19] <bemasher> though it doesn't look like it uses socket.io
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[2:49] <blocky> anyone familiar with adding a new dts overlay? i am getting this error when building the kernel: No rule to make target 'arch/arm/boot/dts/overlays/pwm-servo.dtbo', needed by '__build'. Stop.
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[2:51] <k_j> hi
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[2:52] <k_j> is it possible to mirror audio and video from android to rpi with hdmi display (not necessarili apple display)?
[2:53] <HrdwrBoB> I don't believe do
[2:53] <HrdwrBoB> so
[2:53] <HrdwrBoB> but if that's what you want, why not get a chromecast?
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[3:02] <alesan> hello
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[3:02] <alesan> if I had a Raspbverry PI file system, configured as I like with some programs and scripts installed, how would I replicate such entire FS so I can send it to my friend and he runs an identical system?
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[3:08] <blocky> dd?
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[3:08] <alesan> blocky, I just put it in my laptop and dd out of it?
[3:09] <alesan> OK
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[3:19] <KevinCarbonara> My raspberry pi is supposed to come in tomorrow. Anything I should do to prepare?
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[3:20] <ShorTie> get a good night sleep ??
[3:20] <alesan> KevinCarbonara, do you have an SD card? you will need it
[3:20] <ShorTie> download a raspbian image ??
[3:22] <methuzla> ^^
[3:22] <methuzla> KevinCarbonara: what model pi?
[3:26] <ShorTie> sdcards are like Lay's potatoe chips
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[3:27] <ShorTie> nobody can have just 1
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[3:30] <alesan> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mmcblk0 bs=4M
[3:30] <alesan> ops wrong window
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[4:49] <AshIndigo> so after performing an apt-get upgrade ive gotten this https://pastebin.com/EZxRwibn in my dmesg and my tft screen doesnt work anymore
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[4:49] <AshIndigo> rpi 3 running raspbian
[4:50] <alesan> question: if I download an image based on raspbian jessie lite, will it have a (rudimentary) GUI and Xorg or those have to be installed, after?
[4:51] <mrkramps> alesan, no, you'll have to install it
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[4:53] <methuzla> "image based on raspbian jessie lite"
[4:54] <methuzla> depends i guess
[4:54] <mrkramps> true
[4:54] <methuzla> is it jessie lite. or what?
[4:54] <alesan> https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/raspbian/
[4:54] <alesan> it is the "official" one
[4:55] <methuzla> then yes
[4:56] <alesan> "yes" what? is X on it or not :D
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[4:56] <mrkramps> nope
[4:56] <methuzla> no X
[4:56] <methuzla> it's pretty minimal
[4:56] <alesan> OK
[4:57] <alesan> to install a minimal system what do you recommend, like the usual lxde thing that used to be there
[4:57] <alesan> I see there is another image with "pixel" I do not kow what it is
[4:58] <methuzla> if you want to stick with the basic/standard/official raspbian, those are your two choices (your link)
[4:59] <methuzla> if you want a graphical GUI, you're only option is the non-lite
[4:59] <alesan> what do you mean
[4:59] <alesan> jessie lite does not come with apt-get?
[5:00] <AshIndigo> "doesnt come with apt-get"
[5:00] <AshIndigo> whered ya get that?
[5:00] <methuzla> thought you were asking about Xorg based GUI?
[5:00] <alesan> I jave Jessie lite. I would like to get a minimal GUI
[5:01] <alesan> I thought it was just a matter to do the right apt-get install lxde or whatever
[5:01] <mrkramps> alesan, instead of lxde install pixel
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[5:02] <mrkramps> or go with openbox + tint2 or jwm or some tiling wm
[5:02] <alesan> OKOK
[5:02] <methuzla> or just install the image with pixel
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[5:02] <methuzla> are you trying to avoid bloat?
[5:03] <alesan> OK pixel is the "regular" raspberry pi GUI that has existed for many seasons now, right?
[5:03] <mrkramps> no, it is the new desktop environment
[5:03] <methuzla> more newish
[5:03] <alesan> see I do not like new things :D
[5:03] <mrkramps> but actually it is just a spinoff of lxde
[5:04] <alesan> OK I'll try it, I think it's easier :)
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[5:22] <blocky> anyone familiar with device tree stuff? trying to add a new driver w/ associated dts overlay and it's not behaving how I expect
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[9:53] <velis> Hi. Can you assist me with a touch screen build for RPi 3? I need this particular setup to run Android, but am not sure what components will play along. To complicate matters further, I also need the display to run 1024x600 at least. Screen should be 7 inch or larger. Ideally there'd also be a camera module, preferrably all in a nice case.
[9:53] <velis> I have found a few things on my own, but there's probably some existing knowledge on this and I'd rather you point me to a guide or something.
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[9:59] <brainzap> checkout Waveshare 7 inch for raspberry pi
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[10:41] <bytefire> hi, when compiling u-boot for raspberry pi, does two-stage bootloading - SPL etc - matter? e.g. as it does for am335x: http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/AM335x_U-Boot_User%27s_Guide#U-Boot
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[11:14] <nacelle> valis: as cool as a pi is, why not just use a tablet there if its for android anyways?
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[12:15] <statusfailed> I'm trying to load a custom image using u-boot on a Pi 2. I'm pretty sure I've compiled u-boot correctly (I'm talking to it over the UART), but I'm not sure how to get u-boot to load my image automatically
[12:16] <statusfailed> it just tries to network boot straight away
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[13:57] <Magnifikus> stupid question if i want to build a specific kernel version like 4.9.20, how do i get the source from the git?
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[14:09] <HrdwrBoB> why
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[14:25] <AshIndigo> Maybe something broke in an update?
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[14:32] <Magnifikus> ah you need to checkout the merge not the version tag :)
[14:32] <Magnifikus> HrdwrBoB, i need rt patches applied
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[14:54] <AshIndigo> huzzah going to back to 2016 firmware fixes everything
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[15:13] <password2> jo
[15:14] <password2> meh , my old rpi1 is set to display to rca , and i cant find my rca nor my card reader :(
[15:15] <password2> the only thing to read sd card with is my phone , but it fails to edit txt file -_-
[15:15] <oq> buy a computer
[15:15] <vjacob> any ideas how to avoid random freezes on a RP3 running latest Raspbian?
[15:15] <vjacob> Besides some kind of massive cooling device (I did not overclock btw)
[15:15] <password2> i whole computer?
[15:15] <password2> hmm
[15:15] <oq> yes
[15:15] <password2> so what am i typing on now?
[15:16] <oq> it's absurd in this day and age that someone doesn't own at least x86 desktop/laptop computer
[15:16] <oq> *least 1
[15:16] <vjacob> I think it usually happens, when the board/cpu gets too hot, which might be due to me throwing too much processing work toward it
[15:16] <password2> uhm , i have a computer
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[15:17] <oq> then use it to edit the sd card
[15:17] <password2> oq are you having trouble reading?
[15:17] <oq> usb sd card readers are a £1
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[15:17] <password2> stop trolling
[15:19] <password2> oq do you buy a new thing each time you misplace something?
[15:19] <KevinCarbonara> if they're a dollar? yeah
[15:19] <NedScott> oq: It's actually becoming very common to not own an x86 computer and/or laptop
[15:20] <password2> x86 is ancient
[15:20] <NedScott> a massive number of people do everything on smartphones and have no other PC
[15:20] <password2> or on a 64bit pc
[15:20] <NedScott> for a while Japan was having a hard time with young people not having typing skills
[15:20] <oq> NedScott: those people are idiots
[15:21] <KevinCarbonara> smartphones aren't x86?
[15:21] <oq> smartphones are absolutely useless if you're actually doing literally anything worth doing
[15:21] <NedScott> oq: jesus, you're just a little shit troll, aren't you
[15:21] <Armand> KevinCarbonara: ARM phones aren't
[15:21] <oq> NedScott: what?
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[15:22] <oq> smartphones are only good for consuming content, creating content is a no go
[15:22] <KevinCarbonara> PCs have always been treated differently in Japan. They're less common and less likely to be used for recreation
[15:22] <KevinCarbonara> That's probably why their programmers are bad tbh
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[15:22] <NedScott> oq: so people are idiots for only needing a device that consumes content?
[15:22] <Armand> oq: So, no YouTuber EVER has used a smartphone for recording videos ?
[15:22] <password2> i cant believe phones dont do txt files...
[15:22] <oq> Armand: those youtubers use desktop software to edit them :)
[15:22] <Armand> Not relevant
[15:23] <oq> very relevent
[15:23] <Armand> Not really.
[15:23] <Armand> One can post without edited.
[15:23] <oq> you won't find that editing software on a smartphone lol
[15:23] <Armand> Also, one can do image editing on a phone
[15:23] <oq> not really
[15:23] <Armand> Very really
[15:23] <oq> you can slap on a filter
[15:23] <Armand> Trim, resize, text... etc, etc.
[15:23] <oq> but you won't have adobes software suite
[15:23] <NedScott> no, you can really do full photo editing on a phone. This is a fact, you can look it up
[15:23] <Armand> DUH
[15:24] <Armand> Adobe != benchmark
[15:24] <oq> lightroom is mandatory for a photographer
[15:24] <Armand> No
[15:24] <oq> yes
[15:24] <NedScott> bullshit
[15:24] <Armand> Humm... rules.
[15:24] <NedScott> have you ever worked as a photographer?
[15:24] <NedScott> I have
[15:24] <oq> of course
[15:24] <Armand> Then you're an idiot
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[15:24] <Armand> And a liar
[15:25] <password2> but anyway , the rpi1 and the pizero have the same cpu?
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[15:25] <Armand> Basic troll is basic.
[15:25] <NedScott> password2: basically. The Zero has a higher default clock
[15:25] <oq> Armand: quit trolling
[15:25] <NedScott> in theory most Pi 1's can be clocked to the same speed
[15:25] <Armand> oq: Mirror's over there >
[15:26] <oq> O.o
[15:26] <password2> and it would not overheat?
[15:26] <NedScott> the batches of zero SoCs were higher in quality, so they were safer to clock at 1Ghz
[15:26] <NedScott> aye
[15:26] <password2> without heatsinks
[15:26] <NedScott> yep
[15:26] <NedScott> really, only the 2 or 3 need heatsinks when OC'ing, unless you go insane like that one guy
[15:27] <password2> the rpi3 at our work gets hot
[15:27] <oq> NedScott: so how did you edit your photos for your job without lightroom? apple's now abandoned aperture?
[15:27] <password2> the temp alarm shows onscreen
[15:27] <NedScott> oq: I used film back then
[15:27] <NedScott> and, you know, an actual lightroom
[15:27] <oq> wot, so completely irrelevent then
[15:28] <NedScott> not really
[15:28] <NedScott> the point being, you don't always have to do major (or sometimes, any) digital manipulation to be a photographer.
[15:28] <NedScott> you get too used to digital tools correcting your mistakes
[15:29] <NedScott> lazy
[15:29] <password2> what happens if i delete the config.txt file?
[15:29] <oq> NedScott: anyone can be a "photographer" nowadays, to be a professional photographer you do need to use industry standard software like lightroom
[15:29] <oq> and quit trolling
[15:29] <NedScott> oq: eat a dick
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[15:29] <password2> would defaults be assumed?
[15:29] <Ellied> password2: probably? I don't know.
[15:29] <Ellied> Try it and find out.
[15:30] * password2 attempts
[15:30] <Armand> NedScott: I think you're a bit late on that point..
[15:31] <Ellied> "You absolutely need $ADOBE in order to be a professional $JOB" is such a boring rhetoric. It's also exactly what Adobe would really like you to keep thinking.
[15:31] <NedScott> next he'll tell us that the ONLY way to be a professional baker is to have a digital cook book
[15:31] <oq> Ellied: the truth is there is no other options
[15:31] <Ellied> especially when it follows with "you aren't a professional if you don't have $ADOBE"
[15:31] <Armand> Or, you must have Windows!!! to be a Pro... lmao
[15:31] <Ellied> oq: demonstrably false
[15:31] <password2> brb
[15:31] <oq> Ellied: and adobe is just an example, sure there are some open source alternatives but the real argument was that you need desktop software
[15:31] <Armand> Nope
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[15:34] <Ellied> If your job only involves using one piece of software and no alternative will suffice, then your job is "software operator" and not whatever they told you it was.
[15:35] <Ellied> e.g. if you absolutely need lightroom to do your job at all, then you're a lightroom operator, not a photographer.
[15:35] <Armand> Also, such an assertion implies laziness.
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[15:36] <Ellied> I mean, I'm not saying being a lightroom operator is a bad thing, I'm sure it pays good money - it's just kind of silly to assert that everyone who's actually doing photography needs to become a lightroom operator.
[15:37] <oq> Ellied: I feel like you're getting hung up on the wrong thing...
[15:37] <Armand> I feel you're attempting to deflect
[15:38] <KevinCarbonara> Ellied: I'm a developer and I require Visual Studio to do my job. I am in no way considered a "software operator"
[15:38] <NedScott> if you add in tablets, which are still not desktops/laptops and typically not x86, you actually can find professional image editing software, including software made by Adobe
[15:38] <password2> sucess!
[15:38] <oq> adobe makes junk apps for android, they share the same name but they don't fulfil the same function
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[15:39] <password2> now i get to solve another issue
[15:39] <Ellied> password2: cool, so it assumed the defaults?
[15:39] <password2> Ellied, yes , reverted back to hdmi
[15:39] <Ellied> password2: did it automatically recreate config.txt, or is it still gone?
[15:39] <password2> idk
[15:39] <password2> my next issue is networking
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[15:39] <Ellied> ls /boot/ ?
[15:39] <Armand> KevinCarbonara: Is there no feasible alternative to such a basic DE ?
[15:40] <password2> my wifi adapter is not detected
[15:41] <oq> Armand: visual studio is hardly basic
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[15:42] <Armand> oq: VS does include visual basic, you 'tard.
[15:42] <oq> ...
[15:42] <Armand> Hahahaa
[15:43] <oq> more trolling :/
[15:43] <password2> i assume over the past years network support became better for rpi
[15:43] * oq sighs
[15:43] <Armand> You deserved that :P
[15:43] <password2> so maybe i just need to run apt0get update
[15:43] <GrandPa-G> has anyone been successful in running from a solid state memory type device instead of the sd card? Maybe boot from the card and then run without the card?
[15:43] <Ellied> password2: heh, better and worse. Every time someone tries to move away from NetworkManager, they forget about wpa2 enterprise support, and all of us university students are left high and dry
[15:44] <Ellied> PIXEL's network applet is the latest example
[15:44] <password2> lol
[15:44] <password2> what is PIXEL exactly?
[15:44] <Ellied> the new Raspbian desktop environment
[15:44] <password2> i have an updated iso , but no way to burn it :(
[15:44] <AshIndigo> Its a fork of lxde afaik
[15:44] <oq> a crappy fork at that
[15:45] <Ellied> I like it, but I also usually replace it with MATE.
[15:46] <password2> I'm talking actually drivers for wifi dongles
[15:46] <Armand> I've got both Mate and Cinnamon on rigs... both are quite good
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[15:47] <KevinCarbonara> Armand: Not yet, I don't think. .Net Core is supposed to allow for cross-platform development but I don't think it's in place yet
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[15:48] <Armand> Yeah.. I don't do dev.. I usually have to deal with the end result of inept "webdevs"
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[15:48] <password2> stupid question , instead of doing a full update , can i only update drivers?
[15:49] <oq> drivers are in the kernel
[15:49] <password2> so i just upgrade the kernel?
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[15:50] <Armand> Reminds me.. kernel updatey time
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[15:52] <XianZombie> Hey all, I've got a bit of a dumb question (maybe) but my google fu is failing me
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[15:52] <XianZombie> is there a way to check live status of an SD card? ie. Verify read/write?
[15:52] <Habbie> GrandPa-G, sure, people run from USB
[15:53] <oq> XianZombie: iotop?
[15:54] <XianZombie> oq: maybe, lemme grab it and try :)
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[15:57] <XianZombie> yay, ok
[15:58] <XianZombie> so if my theory is right: IF my Kodi install was buggered and caching to the SD Card, it would show up under IOTOP with some sort of kodi.bin ******************whatever here********** process identified
[15:58] <XianZombie> and running constant
[15:59] <XianZombie> and since I don't see that, I don't think I butchered that setup
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[16:08] <GrandPa-G> I see there is discussion about booting directly from usb now by setting the OTP (One Time Programmable) memory in the Raspberry Pi SoC. The doc referenced also says this bit can't be undone. How risky is this?
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[16:09] <NedScott> GrandPa-G: as far as I can tell, not risky at all
[16:09] <NedScott> I did it to all my Pi 3s
[16:10] <GrandPa-G> NedScott: does it really mean it can't be unset?
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[16:10] <NedScott> it's fully reversible
[16:11] <GrandPa-G> NedScott:if it is set, can you still boot from sd like before or must you boot from usb?
[16:11] <NedScott> you can still boot from SD
[16:11] <NedScott> I think it first attempts to boot from SD automatically
[16:11] <GrandPa-G> so no downside in setting it?
[16:12] <NedScott> as far as I can tell, nope
[16:12] <NedScott> there might be, but so far I haven't heard of any
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[16:15] <GrandPa-G> I use win32 disk image writer to make copies of my sd card. Could I use it to create my usb stick?
[16:15] <password2> such updates
[16:15] <benguitar> Hello, I was wondering if anyone knows what versions of HDMI (1.4, 2.0, etc) are used by the Raspberry Pi? I haven't been able to find a solid answer online other than I know Ethernet over HDMI will not work on the Pi. I would like to know if I can playback 4K content.
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[16:17] <AshIndigo> wait what ethernet over hdmi? when did that happen?
[16:17] <GeekOfflineNL> GrandPa-G, i assume you read this: https://github.com/raspberrypi/documentation/blob/master/hardware/raspberrypi/bootmodes/msd.md
[16:17] <oq> benguitar: 1.3
[16:17] <benguitar> AshIndigo: http://www.hdmi.org/manufacturer/hdmi_1_4/hec.aspx
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[16:18] <benguitar> oq: Thanks!
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[16:18] <GrandPa-G> GeekOfflineNL:yes, that is where I started, thanks
[16:18] <AshIndigo> well now
[16:18] <AshIndigo> thanks for the link
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[16:19] <GeekOfflineNL> benguitar, 4K playback needs HDMI 2.0, Pi HDMI = 1.4
[16:19] <oq> >_>
[16:20] <benguitar> GeekOfflineNL: 4K @30 will work on 1.4, 4K @60 needs 2.0, if the Pi is 1.4 it should do 4K @30, if it is 1.3 then it shouldn't playback 4K at all.
[16:20] <GeekOfflineNL> and as far as i read, SoC in the Pi does not supprt hdmi ethernet, so also no on that one i think
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[16:20] <oq> raspberry pi's are definitely 1.3 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi#Specifications
[16:21] <GeekOfflineNL> oq, yes you are right. i see
[16:22] <benguitar> oq: Bingo. Fingers crossed for 1.4 or 2.0 someday! I'd love to turn a Pi into a test pattern generator, or a basic video player that spits out colorbars at whatever resolutions are supported by it's version of HDMI at the time. 4K would be the bees knees.
[16:22] <GeekOfflineNL> which makes 4K playback and ethernet a no go fur sure.
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[16:23] <oq> benguitar: there are other single board computers with 4k output like an odroid c2
[16:23] <GeekOfflineNL> To get 4K playback on other mediaplayers is also a struggle. At the moment i found 1 who can (barely) manage this for a reasonable price.
[16:24] <oq> might be worth looking into
[16:24] <benguitar> oq: Never heard of that one, I'll have to check it out.
[16:24] <oq> benguitar: odroids are fairly popular for people who want a raspberry pi with a bit more ooomph
[16:24] <benguitar> GeekOfflineNL: At that rate it may just be more reasonable to play off of my laptop when testing 4K signal anyway.
[16:25] <benguitar> Thanks for your help everyone!
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[16:27] <GeekOfflineNL> odroid c2 offers 4K @ 60MHZ ???? i gotta see that in action :-)
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[16:30] <oq> GeekOfflineNL: only drawback with the odroids is the software support, like they don't have the mainline kernel
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[16:37] <GeekOfflineNL> oq, i see it runs ARCH linux
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[16:38] <GeekOfflineNL> but PI still has advantage of very large userbase and great support
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[16:38] <GeekOfflineNL> ....and minaline kernel :-)
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[16:41] <Afkbio> sup fags
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[16:41] <Afkbio> shorting tsla ?
[16:42] <Afkbio> https://www.twitch.tv/dolbytime
[16:42] <Afkbio> dude trading oil
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[16:43] <Chillum> Afkbio: try to keep it family friendly please
[16:43] <Afkbio> oh sorry wrong channel !
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[16:45] <oq> Chillum: you doing gordons job for him?
[16:46] <Chillum> a civil society is the responsibility of all members ;)
[16:46] <oq> Chillum: where were you an hour ago?
[16:47] <oq> it was hostile as hell, lots of swearing
[16:47] <Chillum> sleeping with a beautiful woman
[16:47] <Chillum> just sleeping mind you, nothing not family friendly
[16:47] <oq> damn
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[16:53] <Afkbio> you were sleeping with your sister ?
[16:53] <Afkbio> :)))
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[16:56] <password2> hmm , i wonder if my updates are fin yet
[16:57] <password2> fin
[16:57] <password2> now to see if it was worth the effort
[16:58] <Chillum> my wife
[16:58] <oq> you married your sister?
[16:59] <Chillum> who I think is your sister afk!
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[16:59] <password2> me
[16:59] <password2> meh
[16:59] <password2> updates did not help in detecting my rpi
[17:02] <redrabbit> ?
[17:02] <password2> eh , i mean wifi
[17:02] <password2> lol
[17:03] <password2> i have a no name wifi dongle
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[17:09] <GeekOfflineNL> and lsusb does not see anyhing?
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[17:13] <password2> i can check
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[17:14] <password2> i can checkshows as ralink
[17:14] <GeekOfflineNL> i should :-)
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[17:14] <password2> but ifconfig shoes just use and lo
[17:15] <GeekOfflineNL> i would if there's no driver for your dongle
[17:15] <GeekOfflineNL> lsusb should show you a connected device\
[17:15] <password2> yeah , a long time ago i compiled the drivers for my microserver
[17:16] <password2> man , I am sucking with my sentences
[17:16] <redrabbit> maybe get a chipset that is known to work without fiddling
[17:16] <password2> redrabbit, eh
[17:16] <GeekOfflineNL> good luck
[17:16] <password2> there always seems to be a lot of fiddling involved with linux
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[17:16] <redrabbit> not really
[17:17] <redrabbit> depends
[17:17] <password2> case and point a
[17:17] <redrabbit> i dont like fiddling
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[17:17] <password2> me neither
[17:17] <GeekOfflineNL> just buy a wifi dongle which is of a known brand and some months on the market. hos usually work without fiddle
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[17:18] <redrabbit> ok theses work immediately :
[17:18] <password2> this one is years old now
[17:18] <GeekOfflineNL> gotta go to eat
[17:18] <GeekOfflineNL> bye bye
[17:18] <redrabbit> Realtek RTL8187, Atheros AR9271, Ralink RT5370
[17:18] <password2> enjoy!
[17:18] <GeekOfflineNL> thnx
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[17:19] <GeekOfflineNL> RTL8187 is very very common chipset
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[17:19] <redrabbit> the TP-Link TL-WN722N is cheap and with a Atheros AR9271
[17:19] <redrabbit> good support
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[17:19] <password2> i dont want to spend money at this point
[17:19] <redrabbit> ok
[17:21] <password2> if i wanted to spen money i would by an rpi 3 or zero with wifi
[17:21] <redrabbit> mh
[17:21] <redrabbit> what is the chipset on your dongle then
[17:21] <password2> how do i check?
[17:21] <redrabbit> lsusb.
[17:22] <password2> 148f:7601
[17:22] <password2> is that the part you wanted?
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[17:24] <Magnifikus> was there a recent change, that even with basic permissions allowing, a user cannot access /dev/mem?
[17:26] <Magnifikus> cause http://pasteboard.co/14HKdCsiQ.png
[17:29] <Chillum> /dev/mem is very sensitive and users should not have access to it
[17:29] <Chillum> you sure you don't want /dev/shm?
[17:30] <password2> redrabbit, if you want to help , I'd appreciate it , but I'm not very motivated at this stage , so if you dont want to thats fine too
[17:30] <Chillum> do you actually want access to the direct physical memory?
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[17:31] <Magnifikus> Chillum, yes cause my driver for linuxcnc needs direct access to the spi driver registers
[17:32] <Chillum> I see
[17:32] <Magnifikus> it was running fine on an old version of rasbian
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[17:32] <Chillum> well that is over my pay grade, perhaps someone else can help
[17:33] <Magnifikus> hehe could add something like spimem in the device tree
[17:34] <redrabbit> dawg you aint makin effort
[17:34] <redrabbit> https://www.qwant.com/?q=148f%3A7601&client=opensearch
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[17:36] <password2> redrabbit, I have trouble focussing on electronics/linux projects these days
[17:37] <redrabbit> i wouldnt call this a project lol
[17:37] <password2> this is a precurser to a project
[17:37] <redrabbit> answers are right there
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[17:38] <password2> wheres th dl button :O
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[17:38] <redrabbit> 1st link on my link... there's the answer
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[17:39] <password2> 1st result for me is russian
[17:39] <password2> i dont speak or read it
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[17:40] <redrabbit> https://askubuntu.com/questions/457061/ralink-mt7601u-148f7601-wi-fi-adapter-installation
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[17:41] <password2> meh
[17:41] <redrabbit> i mean there's tons of results.. somehow they may not appear in the same order, whatever, there's tons of answers
[17:42] <redrabbit> https://github.com/kuba-moo/mt7601u
[17:42] <redrabbit> there's even more than 1 solution
[17:43] <password2> meh
[17:44] <password2> i know I'm being pathetic
[17:44] <redrabbit> what did you expect lol
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[17:44] <password2> nada
[17:45] <password2> i hoped updating my rasbian installation would include this driver
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[17:45] <redrabbit> cant include all the drivers in the world, would be bloated
[17:46] <password2> would be nice though
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[17:47] <password2> sudo aptget install driver ****
[17:47] <password2> :D
[17:47] <cxeq> iis there any reason not to use postgresql on raspberry pi for very simple database
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[17:49] <password2> oh it says kernel Version 4.2 includes the driver
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[17:50] <password2> guess my kernel is not that new
[17:50] <password2> :D
[17:50] <hurrwurr> cxeq - as there is even a docker container for postgresql on pi I would say no issue : https://hub.docker.com/r/randyp/rpi-postgres/
[17:51] <cxeq> im no expert in db, but its not "too big" compared to sqlite?
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[17:54] <cxeq> on another note, does anyone know why after a while, my rpi disconnects from ssh and has to be restarted before it will connect again? I upped the timeout delay already and sometimes its fast
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[17:55] <m92> how do i get newer version of nodejs on raspbian? currently i have v0.10.29
[17:55] <Chillum> install from source?
[17:56] <m92> that would take a long time
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[17:58] <Chillum> I suppose it would
[17:58] <Chillum> it is nonetheless how you would get a newer version
[17:58] <m92> :/
[17:58] <m92> i wonder why it's so old in the repo
[17:59] <Chillum> probably a fear of breaking something
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[18:03] <password2> yo
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[18:05] <Ellied> sigh, this GPIB interface card gives me a kernel panic if I plug it in with the drivers installed
[18:06] <password2> redrabbit, the make steps fails
[18:06] <password2> something about no target for default or sumthing
[18:07] <password2> i have to keep switching screens
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[18:08] <Ellied> GPIB is overrated anyway
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[18:09] <Magnifikus> overrated when its the only interface to so maaaaaany instruments?
[18:09] <Magnifikus> usb of the nineties
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[18:09] <Ellied> overrated exactly for that reason
[18:10] <Ellied> overrated because every 90s instrument manufacturer decided it was the only port anyone needed, and then it turned out it sucked compared to newer stuff.
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[18:10] <Magnifikus> mostly anything sucks compared with newer stuff, fact of life
[18:10] <Ellied> If you're actually tooled up for GPIB, it's demonstrably better than RS-232, but not if you have to buy the cables and cards for it.
[18:11] <Magnifikus> today you have to install megatons of drivers if you want to read your multimeter of network
[18:11] <Magnifikus> labview and NI ftw
[18:12] <Magnifikus> this is the so better future :D
[18:12] <Ellied> Nowadays I can plug an RS-232 cable into my laptop and into my multimeter, open up the manual, and have it working in a few minutes
[18:14] <Magnifikus> so what part of rasbian is block user access to /dev/mem?, the kernel is innocent
[18:14] <Ellied> um, not sure. I thought the latest firmware made it work?
[18:14] <Habbie> Magnifikus, permissions on /dev/mem do that, and the kernel enforces them
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[18:15] <Ellied> I sure haven't been running my spectrometer scripts as root, and they've been successfully picking up the GPIOs and serial interfaces.
[18:15] <Magnifikus> with crw-rw---- 1 root kmem 1, 1 May 1 15:27 /dev/mem and the current user beeing member of kmem
[18:15] <Magnifikus> open("/dev/mem", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = -1 EPERM (Operation not permitted)
[18:15] <Habbie> Ellied, likely they use gpiomem or /sys
[18:16] <Magnifikus> but i need the spi peripheral memory :/
[18:16] <Ellied> whatever RPi.GPIO in python 3.5 uses
[18:16] <Ellied> Magnifikus: can you not use SpiDev or something for spi communication?
[18:17] <Magnifikus> nope the driver in linuxcnc needs register access (realtime shit)
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[18:17] <Ellied> ah
[18:17] <Magnifikus> and it was running fine with older versions
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[18:18] <Magnifikus> i bet its this systemd devil
[18:18] <Habbie> is this a daemon?
[18:18] <Habbie> or something you just run on the root prompt?
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[18:20] <Magnifikus> linuxcnc is an application
[18:20] <Magnifikus> but you cannot run it as root :)
[18:20] <password8> hismeh
[18:20] <Habbie> Magnifikus, why not?
[18:20] <password8> meh*
[18:20] <Magnifikus> it wont start as root :D
[18:20] <Habbie> but why
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[18:20] <Ellied> authors often do that just because
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[18:20] <Habbie> well they should stop it ;)
[18:21] <newbie123> Midori browser ||| Edit> Preferences > Behaviour > Enable Spell Checking is greyed out ...How to enable spell checking ?
[18:21] <Ellied> Usually it's applications geared towards inexperienced users that do that, to save newbies from themselves by trying to get them used to not just running everything as root I guess
[18:22] <Ellied> For something like LinuxCNC, it sure seems like running it as root would be reasonable since you're really purposing the hardware with it.
[18:24] <Magnifikus> basicly, it demands a fallback uid if you run as root
[18:24] <Magnifikus> and when starts the realtime tasks with that user id, failing to open /dev/mem again :D
[18:25] <Magnifikus> yeah corrupted kernel memory is the slightest problem you can expect from linuxcnc
[18:28] <Magnifikus> so why does the /etc/ directory on rasbian a .DS_Store file?
[18:28] <Magnifikus> this does not fill me with confidence
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[18:31] <Ellied> a what?
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[18:34] <Magnifikus> .DS_Store files are in every directory an macos pc has seen
[18:35] <Magnifikus> the question is why is it in the rasbian /etc ^^
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[18:35] <Ellied> Magnifikus: I don't know, I don't have one in my /etc
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[18:35] <Magnifikus> hmm than the nsa forgott to mount my /etc without ro
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[18:37] <Ellied> yeah, neither raspbian install I have within reach at the moment has a .DS_Store in /etc. or any dot file beginning with D for that matter.
[18:37] <Ellied> both are pretty new
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[18:39] <Magnifikus> /var and /etc have it, and i do not own a mac
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[18:41] <KevinCarbonara> if you download a zip file from a mac it'll come with that folder
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[18:44] <fred1807> Can I use resinOS and have a docker that works on both RPi3 and RPi1 ?
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[18:45] <Magnifikus> i downloaded it from the raspberry foundation homepage via torrent
[18:45] <password8> someone compile drivers for my wifi dongle :D
[18:45] <Magnifikus> and it never saw a mac :)
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[18:49] <Ellied> password8: what chipset?
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[18:49] <password8> 148f:7601
[18:49] <password8> i am being pathetic tonight
[18:50] <password8> i was following this , but failed at make step https://github.com/kuba-moo/mt7601u
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[19:17] <password8> I'm stupid
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[19:21] <password8> ok that was not such a good idea
[19:21] <password8> :(
[19:22] <password8> anyone doing anything interesting?
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[19:23] <Armand> password8: Playing StarMade. :)
[19:24] <password8> sounds fun
[19:24] <password8> https://hackadaycom.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/sliderheader.gif?w=800
[19:25] <Armand> wtf is the point of that?? O_o
[19:25] <password8> ie volume control
[19:25] <password8> or whatever
[19:25] <password8> fwd/rwd
[19:26] <password8> http://hackaday.com/2017/04/26/wherein-the-mechanical-keyboard-community-discovers-motorized-linear-potentiometers
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[19:27] <parazyd> does a arm64 build of omxplayer exist?
[19:27] <parazyd> or can it be built?
[19:28] <ShorTie> wth is a better fit
[19:28] <password8> a better fit?
[19:28] <password8> for what , something your gf said?
[19:31] <Armand> Yeah.. she was telling me last night
[19:34] <password8> its so weird , i used to spend hours and hours reading online articles , no i barely do that anymore
[19:34] <password8> Its as if I've read my fill of them
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[19:36] <password8> my attention span seems to be non existant
[19:36] <password8> which is troubling for me
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[20:44] <atomi> need a raspberry pi version of the odroid xu4
[20:44] <atomi> oh it's a barrel plug
[20:44] <atomi> :/
[20:45] <atomi> anybody know what requirements the new rpi4 is aiming for?
[20:45] <atomi> in terms of power/price etc...
[20:45] <mfa298> probably same price, but don't expect any more info for at least a year, maybe more
[20:45] <mfa298> i.e. when it gets released
[20:46] <atomi> yeah that makes sense
[20:48] <mfa298> it's possible price would change as well, but they've tried to aim for that same price each time so far.
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[20:48] <ali1234> it will cost $2000000 and it will be the most powerful computer ever made
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[20:49] <atomi> well yeah rpi has always been "low cost" and "low power" computing
[20:49] * mfa298 thinks ali1234 might have got confused with #cray :p
[20:50] <atomi> I imagine those are the two impeding factors
[20:50] <ali1234> it would be funny if they made the pi4 into a homer car though right?
[20:50] <atomi> I'm still rocking the rpi 1
[20:52] <atomi> overclocked to 1100 it's still really capable. I'm running irssi on it right now + a lot of other stuff that needs to stay on all the time
[20:52] <atomi> a few webhooks and scripts
[20:52] <atomi> that's where rpi really shines in my opinion
[20:52] <atomi> you can keep it on all the time and not worry about an extra $10-15/mo on your electricity bill
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[20:54] <atomi> I think instead of gigabit or usb 3, if they could somehow get ECC memory on the thing that would be killer
[20:54] <atomi> those things are great
[20:54] <CoJaBo> h.265 decoding is all I'd care for
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[20:54] <CoJaBo> Encoding too, if possible
[20:54] <atomi> encoding lol
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[20:55] <CoJaBo> Granted, nothing I own can play it, so slow encoding isn't really a problem yet lol
[20:56] <atomi> ECC would change the game
[20:56] <BurtyB> the only game I can see ECC changing is the price
[20:57] <atomi> well yeah you can say the same about any feature
[20:57] <CoJaBo> ..not sure what you'd need ECC for in a pi
[20:57] <atomi> the question is benefit vs cost
[20:57] <atomi> nobody cares about ecc until they do
[20:58] <atomi> when you go to decrypt your backup and you've got a few bitflips during signing
[20:58] <atomi> you're whole backup is fucked
[20:58] <atomi> *your
[20:59] <CoJaBo> ..people don't test their backups?
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[20:59] <atomi> even if they did data duplication wouldn't be able to mitigate that type of error
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[21:01] <atomi> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14206635
[21:03] <CoJaBo> atomi: I did have that happen when someone generated a key tho :/
[21:06] <CoJaBo> Dunno if that was a bitflip or not (unlikely), but still working on fixing it >_>
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[21:14] <newbie123> Please have a look and tell me whats wrong with Midori's spell checker https://ibb.co/bBUXD5
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[22:50] <EvilDMP> Just tried to reboot my raspberry pi with sudo reboot (excuse the paste, it's only three lines):
[22:50] <EvilDMP> Failed to start reboot.target: Activation of org.freedesktop.systemd1 timed out
[22:50] <EvilDMP> Failed to open initctl FIFO: No such device or address
[22:50] <EvilDMP> Failed to talk to init daemon.
[22:50] <EvilDMP> Any ideas?
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[22:52] <EvilDMP> I noticed that connecting to its AFP server doesn't work either
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[23:54] <Raazeer> hi all.
[23:55] <Raazeer> anyone going to kill me if I admit I'm fooling around with a bpi right now?
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[23:58] <IT_Sean> (O_o)
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