#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2017-05-02

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[0:00] <petn-randall> Raazeer: Nobody can stab you over the internet, you're safe.
[0:00] <Raazeer> thank goodness.
[0:00] * IT_Sean deploys his IoT knife and stabs petn-randall over the internet
[0:01] <Raazeer> didn't we agree on a PUNCH-people-in-the-face-over-tcp-ip-device?
[0:02] <petn-randall> Raazeer: We've got IP over Avian Carriers, I'm sure that's in the work, too.
[0:02] <Raazeer> kids today. When I was young, we at most smashed each other's teeth in. Today it's knives and guns right from the start.
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[0:04] <mfa298> Raazeer: quite probably no need for anyone to kill you, dealing with the bpi infighting and poor support is probably punishment enough
[0:05] <Raazeer> mfa298, Yes, I've already noticed I've gotten myself into something there.
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[0:05] <Raazeer> first thing I noticed is that when you insall raspbian on it, you get the ras-pi packages installed which don't work with the hardware.
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[0:06] <mfa298> I've got an original bpi running here with standard debian and mainline kernel, but that took some effort
[0:07] <Raazeer> Oh, I'm not ambitious. the basic idea was to get something with a somewhat more powerful chip, so I went for the M3.
[0:08] <Raazeer> I also had my eye on the SATA connector, but it turns out the M3 is definitely a bad choice at that.
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[0:10] <mfa298> this is what you find with most of the other chinese boards, you either run an ancient kernel where some stuff works, or mainline where other stuff works.
[0:13] <Raazeer> I'm kinda surprised to find it like that. I had the bpi down as one of the more established contenders.
[0:15] <mfa298> that's true for pretty much all the allwinner boards
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[0:24] <Raazeer> mfa298, ok, that's that weird thing where half the bpis come from one company and the other half comes from the other?
[0:26] <mfa298> thats the bit i said about infighting
[0:27] <mfa298> there's at least lemaker and sonovoip
[0:27] <mfa298> orr something like that
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[0:28] <Raazeer> ah I see.
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[0:30] <Raazeer> Ah, now I get it. You meant all the allwinner-based boards often have issues outdated or non-updated software.
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[0:30] <mfa298> yes
[0:31] <mfa298> allwinner don't seem that interested in supporting the linux comunity, so kernel support is mostly a choice between their ancient kernel, or community efforts to get stuff into mainline without all the gpl violations
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[0:41] <Raazeer> mfa298, doesn't the raspi have similar issues with the broadcom chips?
[0:41] <Raazeer> not the lack of support, but the strange workarounds to boot it?
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[0:43] <clever> Raazeer: the allwinner stuff will run an SPL (secondary program loader) from a hard-coded offset on various storage media, which must have a crc'd header
[0:43] <clever> Raazeer: it basicaly does the exact same thing as rpi's bootcode.bin
[0:44] <Raazeer> clever, that sounds quite complicated.
[0:44] <clever> and typicaly, you concat u-boot onto the SPL, and hard-code the SPL to always load the u-boot that follows
[0:44] <clever> Raazeer: its pretty simple, and eliminates the need for a fat32 boot partition
[0:44] <clever> one sec
[0:45] <Raazeer> but it does interest me. Do you have any links detailing that system
[0:45] <clever> Raazeer: a few links, one min
[0:45] <clever> Raazeer: https://gist.github.com/cleverca22/8ff5bd6a322c45f5a3bf7e6109e03e7a
[0:46] <clever> Raazeer: after the SPL+uboot is compiled, its just a single dd command with the right seek param, and your uSD is bootable
[0:46] <clever> then the text in the 2nd file comes out the serial port on power-up
[0:46] <clever> Raazeer: http://linux-sunxi.org/BROM has more details
[0:47] <clever> the SPL can be loaded on an SD card, nand flash, or SPI flash
[0:47] <clever> and if all of those fail, it can be pushed over usb with fel
[0:47] <mfa298> Raazeer: the rpi has some isues with non free code in the bootloader, but there's actually support from the manufacturer to do as much as possible.
[0:48] <clever> mfa298: one big difference ive noticed, is how open/anti-open they are
[0:48] <clever> https://github.com/hermanhermitage/videocoreiv/tree/master/dumpbootrom
[0:48] <mfa298> Allwinner (the chip maker for most of the other boards) basicly say heres a 3.ancient kernel have fun. and leave it at that
[0:48] <clever> with the rpi, you can post directions on how to dump and disassemble the boot-rom
[0:48] <clever> but you cant share the bootrom code, oh no!!!
[0:48] <clever> but with allwinner, https://github.com/hno/Allwinner-Info/blob/master/BROM/ffff4000.s
[0:49] <clever> assembly, and comments on what every step of it does
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[0:50] <clever> i havent gotten my A20 chip to boot past u-boot though, i think the power supply is having issues
[0:50] <clever> need to put some more time into it
[0:50] <mfa298> clever: but try finding a gpl compliant mali driver for allwinner, they're harder to come by and important if you want and decent graphics support
[0:50] <clever> yeah, the GPU side is another can of worms
[0:50] <clever> i plan to use my A20 as a router, so thats not much of an issue
[0:50] <Raazeer> clever, I'll probably never dive _that_ deep into the boot process.
[0:50] <clever> mfa298: http://www.banana-pi.org/r1.html
[0:51] <clever> they basicaly glued an A20 onto the side of a dumb switch chip, and wired up the management bus
[0:51] <mfa298> you can certainly get the A20 (origianl bpi) to boot with mainline uboot and kernel (that's what I'm doing) but the only console I've got working is uart and/or ssh
[0:51] <clever> so with the right software, it can become a managed switch
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[0:52] <clever> but the board i linked cheaped out a bit, there is no spi flash for the switch config
[0:52] <clever> it defaults into linking your lan and wan ports on power-up
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[0:52] <clever> so you have zero firewall until linux has booted enough to change config
[0:52] <clever> but the pads are present, and with the datasheet i can probably add one
[0:53] <clever> or just edit the u-boot firmware to do it much sooner in the boot process
[0:54] <mfa298> I've ordered an orangePi zero to play with, which might have a bit of spi flash onboard to play with which might be interesting
[0:55] <mfa298> although the waiting period from china makes the zero/zerow look very available (almost a month since I ordered it)
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[1:02] <rafael_p> Hi guys! Have anyone tried to build a pi with this kind of there features? (https://www.honeywellaidc.com/products/computer-devices/handheld/dolphin-6110)
[1:03] <Raazeer> boy, it seems there's a new rasPi clone coming out every week now.
[1:03] <rafael_p> Read barcodes, store it and send through the network?
[1:03] <Raazeer> how's a guy supposed to keep up?
[1:04] <rafael_p> btw, maybe It needs a good camera do read the bar code properly
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[1:08] <Raazeer> ok, gotta go. long day tomorrow.
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[4:31] <blocky> what does the dtoverlay directive do in config.txt?
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[4:34] <blocky> ... and how is it different from the dtoverlay tool
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[4:35] <oq> blocky: you might find this relevent, https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/blob/rpi-4.1.y/arch/arm/boot/dts/overlays/README
[4:36] <blocky> oq: yeah i've read that, thanks though
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[4:37] <blocky> for some reason i am observing different behavior depending on the method by which i load my overlay
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[6:16] <password8> what kernel does latest raspbian run?
[6:16] <password8> nvm
[6:16] <password8> its listed on the dl site
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[6:21] <CoJaBo> password8: Also, uname -a
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[6:33] <password8> CoJaBo, i cant exactly run that on an image i dont even have
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[6:35] <kejxp1993> ~~/quit
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[6:35] <password8> but I'll keep in mind though
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[6:36] <password8> I'm hoping my wireless driver will be included in 4.4 , currently on 3.16 , i think
[6:36] * password8 rus
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[6:37] <CoJaBo> Yeh, mine too >_>
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[7:51] <[Saint]> So, how are we all?
[7:52] <[Saint]> Everyone's so quiet.
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[7:56] <Crom> been quite all day... then again, my machine fell off the channel and I didn't realize it
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[7:56] <[Saint]> I had a small implosion today as well.
[7:57] <Crom> ugh... pyon 2.9.13 has a keyboard interrupt error issue
[7:57] <[Saint]> I sent out an image to my PXE boot server that had a bad kernel in it.
[7:57] <Crom> I'm down grading to 2.7.12 to see if it has it
[7:57] <[Saint]> Well, it was a "good" kernel, it just didn't have the wireless radio drivers compiled in.
[7:57] <[Saint]> SO I fixed that, but one of them was still down.
[7:58] <[Saint]> Then I realized one of the wifi dongles had decided to pick that moment to commit suicide.
[7:58] <Crom> ooops... so you did get PXE working kewl!
[7:59] <[Saint]> Yeah, I got wired PXE boot working pretty soon after the first announcement for it.
[7:59] <Crom> O'm trying to get linuxcnc working on using an Arduino MEGA as a ethnernet Break Out Board for driving steppers and reading sensors
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[8:00] <Crom> once I get it working on the PC I'll start getting it going on a RPi3
[8:00] <[Saint]> But I think it's a little more easy and practical for me to use it, perhaps, because over time (about 4 months) I wired my whole house with multiple RJ45 junction points for every room with CAT6E interconnects in the walls.
[8:00] <Crom> so Linuxcnc off a RPi3 with no hat
[8:00] <[Saint]> I imagine most people use wireless for everything these days.
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[8:02] <ShadowJK> wireless and powerline
[8:02] <[Saint]> There are a lot of machines in my network that are wireless only, or dual eth/wifi, but if it is practical to use a wired connection and it won't look ugly doing so I generally will.
[8:02] <Crom> O'm mostly wireless... My routers Mylan2,3,4 are all connected with cat 5e, and the print server is wired to MyLan2/ all the computer connect wirelessly
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[8:02] <[Saint]> That's the decider a lot of the time, if the placement will look ugly with a wire I can't hide, I'll go wireless.
[8:03] <ShadowJK> At first I tried to have a wireless repeater to cover weak spots in the house, but that was a disaster
[8:03] <Crom> and I get my internet off MyLan4
[8:03] <ShadowJK> then I got a powerline networking kit to give connectivity to the second AP, that worked well
[8:03] <Crom> still working on getting MyLan1 and MyLan0 wired in...
[8:03] <[Saint]> But every room in my house, including the bathroom, is wired with four standard raisl and two PoE rails.
[8:04] <[Saint]> I went a bit nuts future proofing.
[8:04] <ShadowJK> Do you atleast have them in piping?
[8:04] <ShadowJK> or tubes, whatever the term is
[8:04] <Crom> one at each corner and MyLan4 ubn the middle closest to my neighbor
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[8:05] <Crom> bridged all together
[8:05] <[Saint]> Yeah, of course.
[8:05] <[Saint]> I did installs for home and small business networking and home theatre for the better part of 5 years.
[8:05] <[Saint]> I'm very aware of what I'm doing. :)
[8:05] <[Saint]> And, "conduit" is the word you're looking for.
[8:05] <Crom> I did network installs for business for 10 years
[8:06] <[Saint]> Yeah, neat. Pulling cable becomes second nature after a while.
[8:06] <Crom> low voltage is usually in conduit to above the ceiling panels then trays
[8:06] <Crom> welp nite all
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[8:08] <[Saint]> I talked to my landlord to see if she was fine with me doing it to the property, and she didn't care. She just basically said don't do anything that'll devalue the place. So I figured a dense home network wouldn't make much of a difference - so long as instructed by her I didn't put the junctions at any stupid or ugly places.
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[8:08] <[Saint]> Which I wasn't planning on anyway. So it was win-win.
[8:09] <[Saint]> We've been here for almost 7 years now, so she knows we're not going anywhere and we look after the place.
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[8:09] <[Saint]> She even stopped flat inspactions after a while when she said that every time she went around there the yard (we were given permission to do our own landscaping) and the house was in better and better condition than she left it.
[8:10] <[Saint]> I've been slowly doing odd DIY jobs and renovations, and the odd landscaping task here and there, for the whole time we've been here.
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[9:52] <password4> moin
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[10:03] <password4> man i hope this new image is gonna solve my driver issues
[10:03] <password4> from kernel 3.18 to 4.4 xD
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[10:26] <thecha> if my internal wifi doesnt work or appear what seems to be the problem
[10:27] <shiftplusone> thecha: did you ask that at few days ago?
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[10:31] <thecha> shiftplusone→ yeah
[10:31] <thecha> i amstrugglign witht his for a while
[10:31] <thecha> probably spent das worth on google
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[10:33] <shiftplusone> I seem to recall you saying that you don't know what has been done to the system. What's in config.txt?
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[10:35] <password4> thecha: using the latest raspbian?
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[10:43] <ali1234> hmmmmmmm
[10:43] <ali1234> why is /dev/urandom broken inside qemu now?
[10:44] <ShadowJK> Broken how?
[10:45] <ali1234> broken as is any attempt to read from it fails
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[10:48] <thecha> shiftplusone→ friend i ran lsusb and found a wifi stick that i pullged in
[10:49] <thecha> friend, how do i get this wifi stick to run now? i still am in ethernet mode as of now
[10:49] <thecha> btw the ifconfig -a doesnt pick up on any wifi
[10:49] <thecha> but the lsusb picke dup onthe wifi stick now
[10:49] <shiftplusone> I am happy to help if we stick to a single problem.
[10:49] <ali1234> hmm it's the stupid QEMU_LD_PREFIX thing again
[10:49] <thecha> but htis is on a 3b so i would prefere the internal
[10:50] <thecha> do you know what the internal woudl show as in the lsusb?
[10:50] <thecha> shiftplusone→ which route do you think is the lsaet hassle?
[10:50] <thecha> i thought it would be easiest to just use the usb wifi stick if the internal isnt being picked up for whatever reason
[10:50] <thecha> also i ran allt he ugprades updates
[10:50] <shiftplusone> neither of them should be any hassle, they should just work out of the box.
[10:51] <thecha> if that mattes
[10:51] <thecha> internal used to work
[10:51] <password4> thecha: what does uname -r give you?
[10:51] <thecha> where do you put the ip adresses ?
[10:51] <thecha> and where do ou allow the passowrd log in?
[10:51] <thecha> hang on
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[10:52] * ShorTie thinkz, 4.4.50
[10:54] <thecha> 4.9
[10:54] <thecha> maybe I've been had?
[10:54] <thecha> spoofed version? malware?
[10:55] <ShorTie> testing version
[10:55] <thecha> rapsbian says 4.4. current kernel
[10:55] <thecha> oh
[10:55] <thecha> testing version? -_-'
[10:55] <password4> wow , your on a enw ver
[10:55] <password4> :D
[10:55] <thecha> enw?
[10:55] <password4> new
[10:55] <thecha> emergency no wifi?
[10:55] <Lartza> 4.9.24-1-ARCH FTW
[10:55] <Lartza> :D
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[10:56] <thecha> how is that even possibly?
[10:56] <Lartza> ?
[10:56] <thecha> newere version than the current release?
[10:56] <password4> my ip is on 3.18 :O
[10:56] <thecha> should not the repositiories keep me in line with raspbian?
[10:56] <password4> barrowing someones laptop today to get 4.4
[10:56] <Lartza> thecha, raspbian repo does have a 4.9 branch though
[10:57] <Lartza> or rather foundation kernel
[10:57] <Lartza> it has nothing to do with raspbian per se
[10:57] <thecha> so is this the root cause of the problem?
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[10:57] <thecha> that the kernel got ahead of its distro?
[10:57] <thecha> can i command line back to the 4.4?
[10:57] <Lartza> thecha, source=("https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/archive/${_commit}.tar.gz"
[10:57] <thecha> if that is the tired and tested
[10:58] <Lartza> I think raspbian is still on 4.4 yes
[10:58] <Lartza> 4.9 is only available through rpi-update iirc
[11:00] <mfa298> I think they pushed out 4.9 to the main repo in the last few days
[11:01] <Lartza> The default branch now in git is 4.9 at least :O Wasn't a week or two back iirc
[11:01] <mfa298> also if you've installed a new kernel you probably need to reboot, otherwise the kernel won't match the modules
[11:01] <Lartza> Raspbian repos are another thing completely then though
[11:01] <Lartza> That's only an issue if you try to load modules
[11:02] <Lartza> An old kernel will run just fine indefinitely with the new modules, since it's loaded the needed ones to memory already
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[11:02] <Lartza> Also if you need to load a module you can downgrade the kernel, load the module then upgrade again ;)
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[11:03] <sameee> I upgraded the kernel to 4.9, and then it wouldn't boot :(
[11:03] <mfa298> Lartza: on raspbian at least if you update the packages and then insert a new USB device you'll have issues as the modules it needs to load won't be on the sd card any more
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[11:03] <Lartza> Of course, but that's loading a new module
[11:03] <Lartza> Like I said, if you don't need to load any kernel modules the old kernel will work fine without a reboot, you just can't modprobe
[11:04] <mfa298> which kinda defeats the point of usb being plug and play (meaning you need to modprobe stuff)
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[11:05] <Lartza> Yeah but it saves you a reboot
[11:05] <mfa298> I know what you're saying, but that's caught out a few beginners before - hence why I said you need to reboot
[11:05] <Lartza> Not really practical for a desktop system but, servers etc :)
[11:06] <mfa298> looking at the packages, new kernel landed in raspbian thurs/fri
[11:09] <mfa298> thecha: going back to an earlier comment, the pi3 internal wifi shouldn't show on lsusb as it's not a usb device (the 10/100 ethernet should appear on lsusb though)
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[11:16] <bytefire> hi, does raspberry pi modify the kernel code itself? https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux
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[11:17] <shiftplusone> yes
[11:17] <bytefire> shiftplusone: i see..
[11:18] <bytefire> what kind of changes? is there a way to see the diffs?
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[11:18] <shiftplusone> https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/wiki/Upstreaming
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[11:19] <bytefire> shiftplusone: thanks! i can see changes in DTSs and defconfigs which are all fine
[11:19] <bytefire> is the code itself modified?
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[11:20] <bytefire> looks like it is... drivers at least
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[11:23] <shiftplusone> yes, there are some changes that make it not be terrible.
[11:23] <shiftplusone> (mainly the USB driver)
[11:24] <shiftplusone> aside from that it's mostly added drivers, rather than modified drivers
[11:25] <thecha> what command allows me to see if the rpi recognizes theinternal wifi ?
[11:27] <bytefire> shiftplusone: thank you very much
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[12:32] <brainzap> anyone running android on raspbuurreeh?
[12:32] <AshIndigo> im not
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[12:35] <thecha> I heard it works but sluggish
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[12:38] <password4> i love how much better the rpi has gotton since initial , its very useable for ligt desktop usage
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[12:39] <AshIndigo> i love the integrated wifi of the pi3
[12:39] <AshIndigo> it made it much easier to play with
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[12:41] <password4> I'm writing a new iso now , so my rpi1 can maybe see my wifi dongle
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[12:52] <brainzap> isnt it faster to just buy a new one
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[12:58] <password4> brainzap: I'm not even going to answer you
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[13:10] <AshIndigo> Where's the fun in just buying a new one?
[13:12] <password4> wheres the fun in spending $40-50 for no reason?
[13:14] <AshIndigo> that too
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[13:14] <password4> I'm just going to drive a single string of white leds anyway
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[13:31] <brainzap> I have wasted money for far far far far far far worse
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[13:42] <AshIndigo> i w
[13:42] <AshIndigo> oops
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[13:46] <decafmcafee> Has anyone ever... run an OVPN alongside a TOR proxy on the same box (but not VPN through TOR or vice versa)?
[13:47] <decafmcafee> I guess I'd need two IPs or two NICS to make that work right?
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[13:54] <amigojapan_bnc> I am thinking of building RPI III with touchscreen and sellign them on something like ebay, but I was thinking if anything goes wrong with a component, the components are still under guarranty by RS componenets, but they are assembled, how can the end user get his component to RS components, I think he or I would need to dissasemble the device….
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[13:55] <brainzap> check your local laws on the seller responsiblity
[13:55] <brainzap> or ebay laws, sorry
[13:55] <amigojapan_bnc> brainslug: I will be using yahoo auctions, which is just simillar to ebay but it is not ebay
[13:56] <amigojapan_bnc> but yeah
[13:56] <decafmcafee> Yea, depends on the policy of the forum you're selling on.
[13:56] <amigojapan_bnc> ty
[13:56] <decafmcafee> and the law, which overides company policy.
[13:56] <amigojapan_bnc> I see
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[13:57] <decafmcafee> I'd contact the seller you're buying from too, they might have a clause of their own that will help / hinder you.
[13:57] <amigojapan_bnc> I see ty decafmcafee
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[14:14] <teepee> amigojapan_bnc: if you want to sell electronic products in EU there's also a couple of additional regulations to watch out for
[14:15] <amigojapan_bnc> teepee: no, I just want to sell them in Japan
[14:15] <teepee> :)
[14:15] <amigojapan_bnc> :)
[14:16] <amigojapan_bnc> teepee: I just want to make this into pocket money, not into a big deal
[14:16] <teepee> yeah, with electronic emission and waste regulations that can easily go wrong here if people do not check the rules first
[14:17] <teepee> no idea if there's similar stuff in japan
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[14:17] <amigojapan_bnc> teepee: I would assume that is already figured out cause RS components is sellign them on the market already
[14:18] <amigojapan_bnc> teepee: they even are selling an RPI III made in Japan version
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[14:18] <teepee> depends, here you have to check the whole product, having parts (e.g. wifi) with certification helps of cause
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[14:19] <teepee> waste regulations are also only for finished products, so in some cases things are sold as kits where that does not apply
[14:19] <amigojapan_bnc> teepee: why do I have to check it?
[14:19] <teepee> so basically, it can get complicated :)
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[14:20] <teepee> well, if you sell a product here, it's deemed to be your responsibility
[14:20] <teepee> might be different in other parts of the world
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[14:20] <teepee> but e.g. US has the FCC certification which is even stricter than what we have in EU
[14:20] <amigojapan_bnc> teepee: I can always rely the responsibilty to whom I bought it from no? they should have tested it
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[14:21] <bozza> amigojapan_bnc: I need a PCB printed. Can you make me one? :)
[14:21] <amigojapan_bnc> no bozza
[14:21] <bozza> :(
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[14:21] <amigojapan_bnc> bozza: I dont have such equipt ment
[14:21] <bozza> ahh ok ok
[14:21] <teepee> again depends on the local rules. if those apply to final products, then you can't just point to others
[14:22] <teepee> but of cause big companies selling wifi stuff normally get the certifications sorted already
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[14:22] <inahd> so i got i pi zero yesterday, and a tinkerboard. i'm kind of regretting the decision.
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[14:24] <AshIndigo> Why?
[14:24] <teepee> and regretting which board, both?
[14:24] <teepee> getting a pi zero is like finding some rare gems ;)
[14:24] <bozza> anyone good at understanding schematics here? How do these connect to the raspberry pi? MOSI and MISO??? I see two things that connect to mosi and miso. Are they in parallel? https://github.com/salmg/MagSpoofPI/blob/master/Schematic/MagSpoofinThePi.pdf
[14:25] <inahd> hehe kind of both. mostly the tinkerboard though because it was $60 and has no community yet
[14:25] <inahd> maybe i should have gotten a more middle-of-the-road board
[14:25] <bozza> teepee: I have two versions. one with and one without a camera connector. Now I just need the W. Got to catch them all :)
[14:26] <inahd> i have a semi-naive desire to design something like this https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gpd-pocket-7-0-umpc-laptop-ubuntu-or-win-10-os-laptop--2#/
[14:26] <inahd> except with a wicked planck style keyboard
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[14:27] <bozza> can someone take a look at a schematic? There is an attiny85 that connects to the pi zero MOSI, MISO and SCK. But there is also an "AVR ICSP" that connects to those also. Are they in parallel?
[14:28] <bozza> https://github.com/salmg/MagSpoofPI/blob/master/Schematic/MagSpoofinThePi.pdf
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[14:29] <teepee> bozza: yes, that would be to program the attiny from an external programmer
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[14:30] <jancoow> Hi. Someone ever used Volumio ?
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[14:31] <bozza> teepee: so I guess it could be ignored if programmed via raspberry pi?
[14:31] <teepee> bozza: yeah, I think so, it's normally just a connector anyway
[14:31] <bozza> cool! TY :)
[14:33] <teepee> what's MagSpoof anyway? that blog post is not really clear ;)
[14:34] <teepee> ahh, found the original project...
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[14:35] <teepee> cool project :)
[14:37] <bozza> teepee: it can emulate the magnetic strip of a card
[14:37] <bozza> MagSpoof is a version that doesn't use a raspberry pi
[14:38] <bozza> MagSpoofPi uses a raspberry pi zero
[14:38] <teepee> yeah, I figured after finding the original project page, just the PI page was not clear about what it's about
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[14:40] <bozza> This video is interesting. If you dip a magnetic strip card into iron oxide you can actually see the magnetic data
[14:40] <bozza> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHSFf0Lz1qc&t=19s
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[14:45] <bozza> teepee: it is a bit like NFC without the NFC
[14:45] <AshIndigo> That is cool
[14:46] <bozza> yep. The card he uses later in that video is also awesome https://www.amazon.com/Coin-Smart-Payment-Device-SOLD/dp/B010TFFRXU
[14:46] <bozza> It is some sort of card that can program the magnetic strip on the fly?
[14:49] <bozza> Are you all busy building a MagSpoofPi now? :3
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[14:52] <XianZombie> Mornin' everyone
[14:54] <AshIndigo> evening
[14:54] <bozza> good afternoon
[14:54] <XianZombie> that too ;)
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[14:55] <XianZombie> I've got a question for anyone who uses/has used the "Multiboot Pi" setup - is there anyway to boot back to Noobs or whatever and remove one OS to replace it with another?
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[14:56] <AshIndigo> havent used multiboot, sorry
[14:57] <jancoow> I lost my piB+
[14:57] <jancoow> I've no clue where it is :/
[14:57] <bozza> :(
[14:57] <jancoow> I was just thinking:
[14:57] <bozza> jancoow: should have stuck a GPS module on it to trace it
[14:57] <jancoow> I did have 2 b+'s
[14:57] <jancoow> bozza: yeah haha
[14:57] <jancoow> well; grep a pi0 of the stack then xD
[14:57] <XianZombie> Multiboot seems pretty awesome - I'm going to try swapping out OSMC for LibreELEC though. Seems to run better
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[14:58] <bozza> :D
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[15:09] <XianZombie> hmm....this might not be as easy as I hoped
[15:09] <bytefire> where does the bootloader of rpi3 reside? is it on sdcard?
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[15:10] <ShorTie> yes, /boot
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[15:14] <bozza> anyone here into their raspberry pi zero?
[15:14] <jancoow> no, it's on the gpu
[15:14] <bozza> or are you all more of the rpi3 type?
[15:14] <jancoow> i've got all the different pis
[15:15] <Quatroking> i bought an apple pie last week
[15:15] <AshIndigo> i only have a pi3 and a pi1
[15:15] <AshIndigo> the pi3 is my experimental one
[15:15] <bytefire> ShorTie: i see. thanks
[15:15] <jancoow> i've got 3 pi0z, one pi0w, 2 (well should be..) b+
[15:15] <jancoow> B
[15:15] <jancoow> and A+
[15:15] <Quatroking> tasted pretty good for a cheap 2 buck pie
[15:15] <bozza> apple pie haha
[15:16] <bozza> AshIndigo the only full sized pi I have is the B+
[15:16] <bozza> is the pi3 that much faster?
[15:16] <bytefire> ShorTie: is there any documentation about exact boot sequence on rpi - until it calls into the bootloader?
[15:16] <jancoow> iti s
[15:16] <AshIndigo> yeah
[15:16] <AshIndigo> it also has built in wifi
[15:16] <AshIndigo> which is pretty nice
[15:16] <jancoow> someone already tried google assistent?
[15:16] <bozza> I saw some people stick a heat sink on their rpi3 haha
[15:16] <jancoow> Want to integrate it with my home automation system
[15:16] <Quatroking> oh my god
[15:17] <Quatroking> i just thought of this
[15:17] <jancoow> what?
[15:17] <AshIndigo> i stuck heat sinks on mine
[15:17] <Quatroking> has anyone put a raspberry pi inside a raspberry pie yet
[15:17] <jancoow> <.<
[15:17] <bytefire> found this https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/10442/what-is-the-boot-sequence#10595
[15:17] <jancoow> https://i.ytimg.com/vi/aTQjuDfEGWc/maxresdefault.jpg
[15:17] <AshIndigo> theres this https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0174/1800/products/ClusterHAT_3_of_3_1024x1024.JPG?v=1464965998
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[15:19] <bozza> LOL jancoow
[15:19] <bozza> someone already did it
[15:19] <jancoow> xD
[15:20] <bozza> Why not try to stick it into liquid nitrogen and try to see how much you can OC it?
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[15:20] <jancoow> because it's too unstable
[15:20] <bozza> has it been tried?
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[15:20] <jancoow> dunno
[15:21] <Quatroking> i need this in my life http://i.imgur.com/HlmBjpx.png
[15:21] <k\o\w> asus tinker board is finally out, much nicer hardware and more open source than Pi: https://www.amazon.com/Tinker-board-RK3288-1-8GHz-Mali-T764/dp/B06VSBVQWS
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[15:21] <bozza> LOL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioCGnlmfvTU
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[15:21] <bozza> nvm that is a banana
[15:21] <jancoow> if you need better hardware yeah
[15:21] <aatish910> Any alternatives to minidlna that supports srt files?
[15:21] <jancoow> but pi is good enough for me
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[15:23] <AshIndigo> i havent hit a need for a more powerful cpu or more ram yet
[15:23] <k\o\w> pi is good enough for me too, but I'd rather give my money to a company that provides a more open platform
[15:23] <petn-randall> FOSS is always good, but good support is also important.
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[15:27] <k\o\w> absolutely, the years of feet dragging to "convince" broadcom to release more blob code, and the artificial scarcity and buying limits on pi has me very hopeful when any other competitor enters the market, RPi has great community support but the work of the foundation is a joke imo.
[15:27] <aatish910> Do you guys use any video gallery generators? something that will generate static pages when a folder of videos is given to it.
[15:28] <AshIndigo> didnt even know those existed until now, aatish
[15:28] <aatish910> that can be an idea for a bored programmer
[15:28] <aatish910> :D
[15:28] <AshIndigo> you can be that board programmer!
[15:29] <AshIndigo> *bored
[15:29] <aatish910> If i don't find something like this by May 7, I am going to build one.
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[15:30] <AshIndigo> i wish fona boards were cheap
[15:30] <aatish910> Minidlna worked great but I cannot make it discoverable behind a bridge. And, that bridge is a black box. No configuration possible on that bridge.
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[15:32] <aatish910> AshIndigo, https://github.com/dularion/streama is there. But it's too intensive and Java!
[15:33] <AshIndigo> and java?
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[15:35] <jancoow> what's wrong with plex?
[15:36] <XianZombie> oh I should have asked in this Window - Is there a reason to run Plex if you have Kodi?
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[15:36] <jancoow> nah
[15:36] <jancoow> well
[15:36] <jancoow> if you have more devices to play your movies
[15:36] <jancoow> then yes
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[15:37] <jancoow> syncronised playstates etc.
[15:37] <Quatroking> kodi doesn't run as a server-client setup right
[15:37] <jancoow> nope
[15:37] <Quatroking> yeah plex does have that
[15:37] <Quatroking> allows you to have all your media on a server and then just play it on whatever the hell you want
[15:38] <password4> the pi-zerow , both its usb ports have data? or is the one exclusively for powah?
[15:38] <password4> or is only one otg?
[15:38] <Quatroking> I got a little HP server running plex and I use my rpi as a client for it, works great because it also allows me to watch my weeb crap while I'm spending the night at my parents
[15:38] <AshIndigo> one is power and one is data iirc
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[15:39] <XianZombie> ok, for me, looks like I don't need Plex
[15:39] <XianZombie> thanks
[15:41] <aatish910> Can RPI run Plex Server?
[15:41] <aatish910> RPI 1 *
[15:41] <Quatroking> rpi1 probably not
[15:41] <Quatroking> transcoding is pretty hard on the cpu
[15:41] <aatish910> yeah, that' what I have :D
[15:41] <Quatroking> direct streaming, maybe
[15:42] <AshIndigo> you could overclock, but i doubt it would help that much
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[15:42] <aatish910> i think this video gallery generator will be useful: give it a folder of videos -> it will generate static htmls with embedded JWplayer or Flowplayer, and use Nginx RTMP to stream.
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[15:55] <Eduard_Munteanu> Hi. Should chrony work out of the box on Raspbian without an RTC?
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[15:55] <Eduard_Munteanu> I'm concerned it might not be able to set the initial time fast enough.
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[15:57] <IT_Sean> .... fast enough for what?
[15:58] <Eduard_Munteanu> IT_Sean, fast enough to handle SSL connections a minute after it started.
[15:58] <Habbie> well ntpd sets your clock correctly within seconds after network coming up
[15:58] <Habbie> i would expect chrony to do as well
[15:59] <Eduard_Munteanu> Oh, ok. I remember I used to tweak ntpd quite heavily to allow large corrections on startup.
[15:59] <password4> were trying to connect to an rpi0 with usb cable
[15:59] <Habbie> Eduard_Munteanu, heavily? it's a single flag
[15:59] <Habbie> Eduard_Munteanu, chrony may need the same
[15:59] <password4> everything seems to work except were we connect to rpi0 with putty
[16:00] <Habbie> Eduard_Munteanu, for chrony it looks like you may need to set 'makestep'
[16:00] <Eduard_Munteanu> Oh, ok, so I guess I need to tweak the config a bit after all.
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[16:01] <Eduard_Munteanu> Thanks, I'll try.
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[16:24] <arve> anyone getting frequent network issues with the last kernel update in jessie?
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[16:29] <bozza> all this talk of pie made me hungry for pie :(+
[16:29] <bozza> who has pie?
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[18:14] <bozza> BurtyB: hmm cherry pie :D
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[18:41] <KevinCarbonara> she's my cherry pi
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[18:50] <password8> time to do shit on a pi....
[18:51] <AshIndigo> i didnt read the "do" the first time...
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[18:52] <password8> haha
[18:52] <password8> so I'm going to ask a couple of redundant questions here in rapidfire :D
[18:52] <password8> firstly , is the rpi1-3 the same pinouts?
[18:53] <methuzla> https://goo.gl/h5qPhz
[18:53] <IT_Sean> password8: please mind your language. The channel rules are posted in the topic line for your review.
[18:54] <password8> eh
[18:54] <password8> my apologies
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[18:55] <methuzla> gpio header pins are common across all pi's
[18:55] <methuzla> older models simply had fewer
[18:55] <password8> oh , i did not realize
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[18:59] <password8> time to diy my own hat , or something liek that
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[19:04] <password8> on second though vero board does not seem as nice as i would have hoped
[19:04] <tabakhase> whelp, ive fixed RPi-Cam-Web-Interface not doing timelapse because of resolution fus --- so far so good
[19:04] <tabakhase> but ONLY vlc seems to be ablke to playx those files :D -- every video2gif page has just one frame, youtube says "est. 2 hour" for a 5 second video...
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[19:06] <password8> time to make jumpers
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[19:15] * AshIndigo jumps
[19:15] <password8> now to set pwm
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[19:17] <password8> drogon!
[19:17] <password8> well hes not here
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[19:21] <password8> uhm , the wiring pi
[19:21] <password8> can i use it to set pwm from terminal?
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[19:22] <password8> or do i need to make an c++ app?
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[19:31] <password8> help
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[19:32] <brainzap> rtfm
[19:33] <password8> where is the manual?
[19:34] <brainzap> what are you using
[19:34] <brainzap> python or
[19:34] <password8> terminal
[19:34] <password8> for the time
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[19:35] <methuzla> http://wiringpi.com/the-gpio-utility/
[19:35] <proditaki> redrabbit: i got a new Rpi, this one is fine :P
[19:36] <redrabbit> good
[19:36] <proditaki> yh
[19:37] <proditaki> hmm i should put the nickserv identify in the config
[19:37] <Mr_Sheesh> Uhm proditaki - You may want to change your password now, if you just posted it in open channel...
[19:37] <brainzap> does raspbian expose the pin on /sys/class/gpio/ ?
[19:37] <proditaki> lel
[19:37] <proditaki> did i?
[19:37] <proditaki> nickserv
[19:37] <proditaki> oh right
[19:37] <proditaki> it resonds to nickserv identify
[19:37] <Mr_Sheesh> Uhm proditaki - You may want to change your password now, if you just posted it in open channel...
[19:38] <proditaki> which weird, since you cannot join this channel when you are not identified with nickserv
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[19:39] <brainzap> yeah thats so evil
[19:39] <proditaki> yh
[19:39] <proditaki> im adding it to bip
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[19:40] <password8> I'm trying to set pin 12 to pwm https://howto8165.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/rpi-pinout.png
[19:40] <password8> but I dont see anything happening
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[19:40] <proditaki> u hooked it to a scope?
[19:40] <password8> would gpio readall show it as pwm or out?
[19:40] <password8> proditaki, yeah
[19:41] <password8> sending a 1 or a 0 does nothing too
[19:41] <proditaki> hmm
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[19:41] <TheSilentLink> Hi how do I resize my filesystem to use all 16gb I reflashed the image from my 8gb card
[19:41] <password8> i used gpio -g mode 17 pwm
[19:41] <AshIndigo> theres an option under raspi-config
[19:42] <gordonDrogon> password8, pin 17 does not support pwm.
[19:42] <TheSilentLink> AshIndigo: I get an error our partition layout is not currently supported by this ││ tool. You are probably using NOOBS, in which case your ││ root filesystem is already expanded anyway.
[19:42] <TheSilentLink> but I flashed it from the old 8gb card
[19:42] <gordonDrogon> password8, and 'readall' will show it as ALT0 when in PWM mode.
[19:43] <password8> BCM pin 17
[19:43] <gordonDrogon> password8, yes, you said.
[19:43] <gordonDrogon> bcm_17 is not a PWM pin.
[19:43] <password8> oh it does show as alt0 , so , been reading like my ass
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[19:43] <AshIndigo> :\
[19:43] <password8> lol , i feel stupid
[19:43] <proditaki> isnt that 18?
[19:43] <gordonDrogon> you need bcm_gpio pin 18, wiringPi pin 1 or physical pin 12.
[19:44] <proditaki> couldve happened to me :P
[19:44] <TheSilentLink> anyone know how to fix it?
[19:44] <proditaki> how big is the partition now?
[19:44] <AshIndigo> silentlink, you could attempt to expand it with gparted or something, but that could have unexpected consequences...
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[19:45] <TheSilentLink> proditaki: its 8gb but the sd card is 16gb
[19:45] <proditaki> ok
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[19:45] <proditaki> TheSilentLink: and theres free space behind your 8 gb partition?
[19:45] <password8> do i need to start the pwm?
[19:45] <TheSilentLink> proditaki: I believe so
[19:46] <password8> ok , writing 1/0 now works when i set to out
[19:46] <proditaki> TheSilentLink: use gparted, youĺl see it visualised
[19:46] <gordonDrogon> password8, does not compute. you just set the pin mode to pwm and it's there.
[19:46] <TheSilentLink> proditaki: how do I check?
[19:46] <password8> so ,just the pwm to get working
[19:46] <TheSilentLink> proditaki: I have no gui using raspbian lite
[19:46] <password8> ah , there i go
[19:46] <gordonDrogon> password8, what are you using PWM for?
[19:46] <proditaki> TheSilentLink: sudo fdisk -l
[19:47] <password8> gordonDrogon, gonna make a pwm dimme for my table
[19:47] <TheSilentLink> proditaki: https://pastebin.com/M3jJ97E1
[19:47] <password8> man i feel like id ten t , made a bunch of noob mistakes
[19:48] <proditaki> TheSilentLink: you cannot just resize it
[19:48] <proditaki> TheSilentLink: simplest solution is just to mount /dev/mmcblk0p7
[19:48] <password8> default freq like 300kHz?
[19:48] <Magnifikus> anyone running rpi3 + rt preempt on 4.9? the network seems to fail from time to time suddenly
[19:48] <TheSilentLink> proditaki: I can't?
[19:49] <proditaki> why not
[19:49] <AshIndigo> why not?
[19:49] <TheSilentLink> should I just reinstall I guess
[19:49] <proditaki> why?
[19:49] <proditaki> just mount it to /home or somthing
[19:49] <proditaki> just mount it to /home or something
[19:50] <proditaki> oh oops
[19:50] <password8> wait , is the rpis pwm a fixed frequecy?
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[19:50] <proditaki> password8: sarent you supposed to craete it yourself?
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[19:51] <password8> create what myself?
[19:51] <proditaki> the pwm signal
[19:51] <password8> theres a module
[19:51] <proditaki> oh
[19:51] <proditaki> the frequence is probably a #define then
[19:52] <proditaki> or a variable or something
[19:52] <password8> it seems to attempt to spread the hightime out
[19:52] <proditaki> what library is it?
[19:52] <password8> gpio
[19:52] <password8> ie going from 1023 to 1022 makes two low points instead of one
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[19:55] <gordonDrogon> password8, it's in balanced mode. try: gpio pwm_ms
[19:56] <password8> ok
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[19:58] <maicod> hi I'm searching for 3d Print models for printing a case for the Pi 3B. I know Pi 2B has the same form factor but does the 1B+ (model B+) also have that same form factor ?
[19:58] <password8> says unknown command pwm_ms
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[19:59] <maicod> I found my answer online :)
[19:59] <password8> anyway , its no that bad that its in balanced mode , just interesting to note
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[20:00] <password8> wel considered 1B has a connector the toher dont have
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[20:28] <password8> oh , theres my 2n2222 bjts
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[20:32] <ShorTie> where they in the last place you looked for them ??
[20:33] <password8> ofc they were
[20:33] <password8> why would i continue searching after i found them?
[20:34] <ShorTie> for the fun maybe ??
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[20:38] <password8> now for the fun part where i introduce 12V to a circuit i just dead bugged :D
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[20:40] <password8> success
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[20:42] * password8 ponders what part to do nex
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[20:43] <password8> wiring pi is meant to be used in c++ as a lib , right?
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[20:50] <rafael_p> Is it okay to share a link here related about a raspberry Pi from Reddit? I want someone's opinion about a project :)
[20:50] <password8> here , the parameteer int pin , is that the wPi pin number http://wiringpi.com/reference/core-functions/ ?
[20:51] <gordonDrogon> password8, where?
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[20:51] <gordonDrogon> password8, wiringPi is written in C. It can be directly used in C/C++ and BASIC.
[20:51] <password8> the function parametrs
[20:51] <gordonDrogon> password8, and it sounds like you need to read the fine manuals.
[20:51] <password8> yeah , I'm using it in c now
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[20:52] <gordonDrogon> password8, the pin parameter is whatever you want it to be - wiringPi pins, bcm_gpio pins or physical pins.
[20:52] <gordonDrogon> http://wiringpi.com/reference/setup/
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[20:52] <password8> ah , i missed that page
[20:52] <password8> thanc
[20:53] <password8> thanx
[20:53] <password8> i got the blink example working with a white led
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[20:55] <password8> may i ask why 4 different functions to initialize instead of a single one with a parameter?
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[20:57] <gordonDrogon> that's the way it is.
[20:58] <password8> ok
[20:58] <gordonDrogon> it started with wiringPiSetup() - if I added parameters to it, then peoples code would break.
[20:58] <gordonDrogon> so I just created new Setups()
[20:59] <password8> ah ok
[20:59] <password8> no issue
[20:59] <password8> was just curious
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[21:04] <password8> well I highly apreciate your lib
[21:05] <rafael_p> If someone can help, please take a look: https://www.reddit.com/r/RASPBERRY_PI_PROJECTS/comments/68unj4/raspberry_pi_as_a_barcode_data_collector/ :)
[21:07] <password8> now to make a wrapper
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[21:12] <password8> you can look at the zxing library
[21:12] <password8> or others
[21:12] <gordonDrogon> another wrapper for wiringPi?
[21:12] <password8> :P
[21:12] <password8> its wrappers all the way down
[21:13] <gordonDrogon> incidentally, you can blink an LED with : gpio -g $pin blink
[21:13] <gordonDrogon> :-)
[21:13] <password8> cool
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[21:14] <password8> my goal here is to control my desk light , so gonna make a binary or two for cron for scheduling , then also for php to call
[21:15] <password8> actually i can just use gpio now that i think about it
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[21:16] <g105b> Hi everyone, I'm in need of some help. I'm trying and failing to connect to a 3g network using a SIM800L module over serial. I first tried to do the AT commands myself over minicom, now I've seen the interactive guide (https://www.modmypi.com/blog/how-to-connect-your-raspberry-pi-to-a-3g-network) but I can never register to a network no matter what SIM I use
[21:16] <g105b> (I've even tried my own SIM that I use all the time on 3G from a phone). Does anyone have any help debugging my issue?
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[21:18] <gordonDrogon> password8, there is a wiringPi wrapper for php somewhere, but calling gpio is easy...
[21:18] <password8> yeah
[21:18] <password8> basically all i need to do is call gpio , even from cron
[21:19] <password8> just installing apache2 now
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[21:20] <password8> just about only thing that i wont do with just gpio is the fade in effects
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[21:22] <gordonDrogon> password8, from cron, make sure you use absolute paths. /usr/bin/gpio ...
[21:22] <password8> ok doki
[21:23] <password8> will try and remember that
[21:23] <gordonDrogon> password8, for x in seq `1024 0 -1`; do gpio pwm 1 $x ; sleep 0.01 ; done
[21:24] <password8> ooh , fade out
[21:24] <password8> or something
[21:24] <password8> will test in a moment
[21:24] <password8> busy installing stuff
[21:24] <gordonDrogon> good luck :) I'm off to the bakery. back later.
[21:24] <password8> at this time? enjoy
[21:24] <password8> its almost bed time for me
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[21:33] <Travis> Hello
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[21:33] <Travis> Is there anyone here, who might be able to tell me how to connect to my VNC server, while using my bouncer address?
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[21:40] <leitmedium> Travis: is your pi with vnc behind a router? (does it have a local ip adress?)
[21:41] <Travis> Yes
[21:41] <leitmedium> Travis: did you configure your router to allow access to the pi?
[21:41] <Travis> yes. I can access it, from my redirect
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[21:41] <Travis> As far as my ZNC bouncer goes
[21:42] <leitmedium> Travis: so you have opened a port on your router and forwarded it to your pi?
[21:43] <Travis> yes.
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[21:43] <leitmedium> Travis: so what does not work?
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[21:45] <Travis> Hang on, let me log in via my hotspot and try that.
[21:45] <Travis> bbiab
[21:45] <password2> awesome
[21:45] <password2> my mosfet is connected
[21:46] <Travis> I think I know the problem.
[21:48] <Travis> I don't have the port for the SSH login forwarded to the router
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[21:50] <Travis> Time to test this theory.
[21:50] <Travis> brb
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[21:53] <Travis> that's it
[21:53] <Travis> the port needs forwarded.
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[21:54] <lopta> From the Internet to a Pi?
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[22:02] <Travis> growl.....
[22:02] <Travis> That idea didn't work
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[22:03] <Travis> I can start the VNC server over my pi, but cannot access it via the viewer.
[22:04] <oq> opening up vnc to the internet is going to lead to bad times
[22:04] <oq> ideally what you want to do is vpn into your local network
[22:04] <Travis> Can I still use the VNC viewer for that?
[22:04] <oq> you can do everything
[22:04] <oq> it's all tunneled through the vpn connection
[22:05] <Travis> Don't you have to pay for that
[22:06] <leftyfb> Travis: can I ask why you think you need to remotely VNC into your pi over the internet?
[22:06] <oq> Travis: nope
[22:06] <oq> Travis: you might be thinking of third parties who offer vpn services for anonymity
[22:07] <oq> install this, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenVPN
[22:07] <Travis> I am toying with an idea for this weekend. I want to use the Pi's desktop remotely, as a logger.
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[22:07] <leftyfb> Travis: care you go into more detail? A logger? Why do you need a GUI desktop for logging?
[22:08] <Travis> Because my files are MegaS*** files
[22:08] <leftyfb> I don't follow
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[22:08] <Travis> The log file is a Word document.
[22:09] <leftyfb> why?
[22:09] <leftyfb> how?
[22:09] <Travis> forget it. I will just use a laptop.
[22:09] <leftyfb> you have some automated process 'logging' to a word document on a pi?
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[22:10] <Travis> no
[22:11] <Travis> It's a Incident Command System file
[22:11] <Travis> Nevermind. I am dropping the issue where it sits.
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[22:12] <mrkramps> Travis, like a report for each "incident"?
[22:12] <leftyfb> Travis: why not log to a mobile device using some sort of sync'ing service that will sync with the pi? Like google docs, or dropbox or owncloud?
[22:12] <Travis> and open myself up for more junk? Forget that.
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[22:12] <leftyfb> junk?
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[22:13] <Travis> I don't like Google for much more than a search engine.
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[22:13] <leftyfb> btw, owncloud you can run on your pi directly
[22:13] <mrkramps> maybe antiword might help?
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[22:14] <mrkramps> or are these newer version word docx?
[22:14] <brianx> Travis: please see the language guide. swear words hidden by **** are not acceptable in here.
[22:14] <leftyfb> mrkramps: antiword is read-only
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[22:14] <Travis> I will leave. It appears I have offended someone. Thank you for your time.
[22:15] <brianx> no offense
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[22:15] <leftyfb> oh please no ... wait ... don't g..... oh, too late
[22:15] <mrkramps> leftyfb, i did no have the full discussion in backlog … nevermind
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[22:20] <lopta> In the past I have tunnelled VNC through ssh, if that helps.
[22:20] <lopta> (I wouldn't use raw VNC over the Internet)
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[22:21] <brianx> the vnc user left
[22:21] <lopta> Oh, he's gone.
[22:21] * lopta hugs VNC anyway.
[22:21] <brianx> :-) vnc is quite useful.
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[22:23] <leftyfb> most people don't realize they don't need VNC to accomplish their end goal
[22:23] <lopta> leftyfb: Depends what their end goal is.
[22:23] <leftyfb> it does, which is why I said most
[22:24] <lopta> ...and in my experience VNC is more performant than X over a WAN link.
[22:24] <brianx> most of the time.
[22:24] <leftyfb> most only assume they need something graphical
[22:24] <leftyfb> logging isn't one of them
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[22:25] <brianx> leftyfb: i think they were trying to paste something into an msoffice document opened in libreoffice or openoffice.
[22:27] <leftyfb> paste doesn't work over vnc
[22:27] <lopta> leftyfb: It does for me.
[22:27] <brianx> that depends on the flavor. some vnc flavors do paste.
[22:28] <lopta> I think it's an option, depending on the server and viewer used.
[22:28] <lopta> (and their configuration)
[22:28] <leftyfb> ok, I stand corrected
[22:28] <leftyfb> regardless, I fail to understand in what scenario pasting text (from where?) into a "word" document on a pi is the right solution
[22:29] <brianx> leftyfb: yeah, seems a stretch to me too.
[22:29] * lopta shrugs
[22:29] <lopta> Nice to have the option though.
[22:30] <brianx> might be an office environment where they keep certain records in ms office and this person is trying to get a little linux in the door.
[22:31] <leftyfb> that's what office 360 is for
[22:31] <leftyfb> which runs on a tablet/phone
[22:31] <leftyfb> perfect for field operations
[22:31] <brianx> can you insert data into 365 from linux?
[22:32] <lopta> I'd rather run the native apps.
[22:32] <lopta> (probably)
[22:32] <leftyfb> "rather run the native apps" != " keep certain records in ms office"
[22:33] <leftyfb> brianx: from linux, yes
[22:33] <leftyfb> from the pi, never tried
[22:33] <brianx> leftyfb: cool, good to know. if linux can do it, i can't imagine it can't be installed on raspbian.
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[22:38] <leftyfb> brianx: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/102233/screenshots/Screenshot%20from%202017-05-02%2016-34-01.png
[22:40] <brianx> ahh, through a browser. guess that makes sense.
[22:40] <lopta> leftyfb: I meant for the tablet or phone use case. That said, we mostly use the Google apps for that stuff now.
[22:41] <leftyfb> lopta: phones and tablets both have office 365 on them
[22:41] <lopta> ...but I've heard that Microsoft's apps for Android and iOS are sometimes better than their Windows counterparts.
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[22:41] <lopta> leftyfb: We try not to use that.
[22:41] <leftyfb> I have them on my iphone
[22:41] <lopta> hello sunn
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[22:42] <leftyfb> I'm not suggesting anyone should. Unless they require logging to a GUI Microsoft word document
[22:42] <lopta> Thankfully I don't have to log to anything that odd.
[22:42] <sunn> Hi! o/
[22:42] <lopta> syslog or plain text files, mostly.
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[22:44] <mrkramps> log to plain text and convert to docx periodically?
[22:45] <brianx> when i was with sears.com, i rewrote their hourly report to be generated as html under linux and management told me to stop using it, that i had to generate it in excel and export the part they needed via outlook (which ends up reformatting as html before sending) because i was doing something differently from everyone else and they couldn't follow it.
[22:45] <lopta> brianx: I'm glad I don't work there.
[22:45] <brianx> lopta: i'm glad i don't either.
[22:45] <lopta> Here I could even run a Linux desktop if I wanted.
[22:46] <brianx> 11 months of hell.
[22:46] <lopta> ...instead I use BSD ;-)
[22:46] <leftyfb> i've been running linux on all my devices since about 2007 at 3 different companies
[22:46] <brianx> yeah, there i automated bunches of things and it was always a crapshoot if management would embrace it with open arms or threaten to fire me over it.
[22:48] <lopta> leftyfb: My daughter has a Linux box, if that counts.
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[22:58] <leftyfb> lopta: was just adding that i've been luck that everywhere i've worked for the past 5 or so years has allowed or even required me to run linux
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[22:58] <leftyfb> luck/lucky
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[22:58] <leftyfb> er
[22:58] <leftyfb> 5/15
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[23:00] <brianx> sears.com runs linux on a lot of their back end, but ms on the desktop.
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[23:01] <blocky> desktop sears?
[23:01] <brianx> they're so badly managed though. it's no wonder they're closing stores.
[23:01] <brianx> sears.com. the 150 year old retailer.
[23:01] <blocky> yeah what do you mean by sears "on the desktop"
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[23:02] <brianx> i wrote "ms on the desktop."
[23:02] <blocky> you work there and they provide ms workstations?
[23:02] <brianx> micro soft.
[23:02] <blocky> yep
[23:02] <brianx> i worked there. not anymore.
[23:02] <blocky> gotcha
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[23:02] <blocky> anyone know how /boot/config.txt is parsed?
[23:02] <brianx> when there i was required to use microsoft as my desktop os.
[23:03] <brianx> blocky: it's read by various parts of the bootloader
[23:03] <blocky> is there source available for that?
[23:03] <brianx> the github for raspbian has source.
[23:04] <brianx> there are parts that run on the gpu and may read the file too and that's closed source.
[23:05] <blocky> mind linking me to the bootloader source? having trouble finding it with google
[23:05] <brianx> lol, my internet is down, i can't.
[23:06] <leftyfb> blocky: https://github.com/raspberrypi
[23:06] <blocky> leftyfb: thanks i looked there but i didn't see anything referencing bootloader
[23:06] <blocky> i think it might be closed-source?
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[23:08] <oq> brianx: which os?
[23:08] <blocky> http://www.cnx-software.com/2016/05/16/preliminary-open-source-bootloader-for-raspberry-pi-boards-released/
[23:08] <brianx> raspbian
[23:08] <blocky> looks like maybe there is an alternate open source bootloader
[23:09] <blocky> "Bear in mind that this is all work in progress, and it’s not capable of booting Linux right now"
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[23:09] <brianx> oq: trying to automate the switch to wlan0: as default route whenever it comes up.
[23:09] <leftyfb> blocky: really?
[23:09] <leftyfb> "This repository contains pre-compiled binaries of the current Raspberry Pi kernel and modules, userspace libraries, and bootloader/GPU firmware."
[23:10] <leftyfb> under the "firmware" section
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[23:11] <leftyfb> blocky: https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/tree/master/boot
[23:11] <leftyfb> "This repository contains pre-compiled binaries of the current Raspberry Pi
[23:11] <leftyfb> kernel and modules, userspace libraries, and bootloader/GPU firmware."
[23:11] <leftyfb> so not the source
[23:11] <leftyfb> which means it's probably not open yet
[23:11] <blocky> ah okay thanks, that was sort of my suspicion
[23:12] <leftyfb> or at all
[23:12] <leftyfb> since it's Broadcom
[23:12] <brianx> i thought there were multiple stages and only the gpu code was closed.
[23:12] <brianx> (mind you, i've never looked)
[23:13] <EvilDMP> I'm running f3read on an SD card that seemed to have become corrupted. It reports:
[23:13] <EvilDMP> Validating file 2.h2w ... 269736/ 0/ 0/ 0 - NOT fully read due to "Resource busy"
[23:13] <blocky> been trying to add some stuff to the kernel for like a week and starting to feel like it's futile
[23:13] <EvilDMP> I'm guessing that means it's faulty
[23:13] <EvilDMP> f3write passed without issue though
[23:15] <brianx> blocky: there are docs for compiling the kernel. you can even patch the kernel before compiling.
[23:17] <blocky> brianx: my issue is with the device tree
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[23:17] <blocky> i think i'm just going to give up on the whole overlay system and just paste my code directly into the static dts
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[23:18] <brianx> sounds like a plan.
[23:19] <blocky> as far as i can tell there's no way for one overlay to reference another, and there doesn't seem to be any documentation about how the overlays are laoded
[23:19] <blocky> *loaded
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[23:25] <brianx> does anyone know how to get my wlan0: to have a lower metric than my eth0: ? when wlan0: comes up, i want it to be the default route even when eth0: thinks it's up. this is to lat my wife activate the hotspot on her phone as a backup connection to the internet. eth0: usually stays up when internet connectivity goes out.
[23:27] <brianx> both wlan0: and eth0: are dhcp, so adding a new route with the lower metric and deleting the old route with the higher metric doesn't work because /etc/network/interfaces doesn't know the ip.
[23:27] <leftyfb> brianx: so you use a pi as your home router?
[23:28] <brianx> leftyfb: yeah, just temporarily.
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[23:28] <brianx> i'm doing repairs on the old house before selling it, so we have two homes for a bit.
[23:29] <ShorTie> have you tried using like wicd-cursers ??
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[23:30] <brianx> no, it's using the default wireless setup on a 3b.
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[23:31] <ShorTie> well Debian defualts to wired if it is hooked up
[23:31] <brianx> yes, that's why i want to change the metric.
[23:32] <brianx> wired is getting 202 and wireless is getting 303.
[23:33] * ShorTie Thinkz, i'd use wicd-cursers to set that stuff
[23:34] <brianx> ShorTie: will that support dhcp and a lower metric? this isn't static.
[23:35] <ShorTie> got me on that metric
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[23:37] <brianx> ok. the route metric is the only issue. /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf gets the rest of the config just fine.
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[23:51] <Condor> Where can I find the LCD drivers for a 3.2" display?
[23:52] <Condor> I used to be able to use an old one from SpotPear on linux 4.4 but it doesn't seem to work with 4.9
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