#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2017-10-29

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[0:24] <mijk> hey, has anyone here been successful at setting up a x86 chroot to run wine? I can't find any good instructions. They all seem to point to ExaGear. I mean it's cheap enough but I'd like to set up a x86 chroot and wine on my own
[0:25] <mijk> it seems to load and then I get a media exec format with /bin/bash on the chroot but everything seems to be in place
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[0:28] <ali1234> sounds like "fun"
[0:29] <ali1234> actually that sounds like binfmt-misc isn't set up right
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[0:38] <tac-tics> Hi all. I'm trying to installing OpenCV with Python3 on my raspberry pi.
[0:38] <tac-tics> However, the python-opencv package only installs it for python2
[0:39] <tac-tics> I've tried looking for instructions on how to set it up, but I'm coming up empty. Does anyone have any thoughts on how I might get it working?
[0:40] <tac-tics> it seems the best solution people have is to Build It Yourself From Source, but I want to avoid that if I can.
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[0:53] <nacelle> maybe find if its in pip?
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[0:54] <nacelle> python has its own package manager, which usually has a package itself
[0:54] <nacelle> like python3-pip or some such
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[0:55] <tac-tics> Yeah, I just found that a second ago. pip install python-opencv
[0:55] <tac-tics> Thank you though!
[0:56] <tac-tics> opencv-python rather
[0:57] <tac-tics> except that doesn't quite work either :X
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[1:21] <tac-tics> I wonder. Do any raspberry pi OSes run with ONLY python3?
[1:22] <tac-tics> I'd like to pretend Python2 is dead :)
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[1:30] <tac-tics> If anyone wants free internet points, I've crossposted this to RPiSE: https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/74426/are-there-any-operating-systems-which-only-have-python3
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[2:02] <nacelle> python2 has four more years to go "officially" at the moment.
[2:02] <nacelle> I suspect that might be changed later on.
[2:03] <nacelle> and some groups are forming commited to supporting it beyond that
[2:03] <nacelle> i do the due dillegence of looking into python3 for a project, and if I can, I go with it
[2:03] <nacelle> but sometimes... it dont work out.
[2:03] <nacelle> python2 isnt that big of a stretch to convert into 3
[2:03] * nacelle shrugs
[2:04] <nacelle> I listened to people do similar during the first round, before python2 was extended until 2021
[2:04] <nacelle> way before python3 was ready, module wise
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[2:35] <tac-tics> nacelle, interesting. I didn't know they gave it an official end of life date.
[2:35] <tac-tics> I'm just frustrated OpenCV installs fine for Python2, but that I can't seem to get it to work with Python3.
[2:36] <tac-tics> It appears that the module is compiled into a shared library. I wasn't even aware Python could load .so files directly as modules like that.
[2:36] <tac-tics> I tried to copy the cv2.py and the shared library file to the Python3 dist-packages folder, but Python3 didn't seem to be able to resolve the import
[2:37] <tac-tics> (ie, it couldn't find cv2, which is "inside" the shared library. Inspecting cv2.__file__ in Python2 names the shared library as the file that it loaded from)
[2:40] <stiv> tac-tics, you can't do that. py2 and py3 are different animals.
[2:40] <tac-tics> I figured that could be the case.
[2:41] <stiv> the internal data structs are different
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[2:55] <nacelle> tac-tics: why do you care about python3 then? why not just use the python2 version of it?
[2:57] <tac-tics> because I don't want to use Python2, is pretty much the answer.
[2:59] <Latrina> so first time trying to boot this rpi3 and from serial with usb hdd containing the system
[2:00] <Latrina> there is nothing coming up on the uart
[2:00] <Latrina> I am using screen /dev/ttyUSB0 115200,cs8,-parenb,-cstopb,-hupc
[2:00] <Latrina> also, when booting from usb, how would the device be called? sdb or sdc?
[2:02] <Latrina> also the dhcp server doesn't lease no IP to a new device
[2:02] <Latrina> which tells me it might not even be booting at all
[2:03] <Latrina> otherwise the dhcp client would be enabled already
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[3:46] <Latrina> my gentoo build boots up like a boss
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[3:47] <Latrina> 5 days and nights of compiling and almost blindely thinkering ultimately brought its prize!
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[3:47] <Latrina> now I need to figure out why the uart doesn't work, not even with raspian
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[3:55] <redrabbit> so it takes a week to get something to boot
[3:55] <redrabbit> lmao
[3:55] <redrabbit> congrats
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[3:55] <Latrina> might have taken more
[3:56] <Latrina> the difference between you and I is I am learning
[3:56] <Latrina> and you are probably slacking
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[3:56] <Latrina> learning and possibily make a little tiny contribution
[3:57] <redrabbit> gl fixing all the shit that doesnt work now
[3:57] <redrabbit> eheheh
[3:57] <ali1234> Latrina: did you cross compile?
[3:58] <Latrina> ali1234: yes
[3:58] <ali1234> "fun"
[3:58] <ali1234> did you meet g-i yet?
[3:58] <Latrina> most of the @world has been built using crossdev
[3:58] <Latrina> no idea
[3:58] <ali1234> build anything that uses glib?
[3:59] <Latrina> yes, networkmanager has glib dependency
[3:59] <Latrina> and few other packages that I dont quire remember
[4:00] <ali1234> anything that uses gobject-introspection or vala is a nightmare for cross compiling
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[4:00] <ali1234> just out of interest, how big is your root fs?
[4:00] <Latrina> ali1234: it has been a little traumatic but I made it
[4:00] <Latrina> 1.2G without /usr/portage
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[4:01] <ali1234> wow, that's a lot
[4:01] <ali1234> -O3?
[4:01] <Latrina> and I got gew packages installed, such as networkmanager, wpa_supplicant, flashrom, vim and their dependencies of course
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[4:02] <Latrina> probably without all of the additional things I installed I might have stayed within 800mb, I suppose
[4:02] <ali1234> i'm doing cross compile here and i reported three bugs this weekend :(
[4:02] <Latrina> I reported one few hours ago
[4:03] <Latrina> for flashrom-0.9.9
[4:03] <ali1234> i wish cross compiling was more tested
[4:04] <ali1234> i'm only building 3 things and two of them don't work right
[4:04] <Latrina> to be honest with you this is my very first experience cross building for Gentoo and linux in general
[4:04] <Latrina> only cross build I used to do was with freebsd and mips
[4:04] <Latrina> but not very knowledgable in the matter
[4:06] <ali1234> i suppose i'm making it difficult for myself with arbitrary constraints
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[4:07] <ali1234> since i'm trying to build everything without needing root permissions and only using tools packaged in ubuntu
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[4:07] <ali1234> if you want a fun time, try to cross compile rygel + deps
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[4:08] <mattwj2002> Anyone messed with outernet and raspberry pi?
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[4:10] <mattwj2002> Hey ali1234 again
[4:10] <ali1234> hi
[4:10] <mattwj2002> I discovered outernet
[4:11] <mattwj2002> I won't mind building a outernet radio
[4:12] <mattwj2002> It is receive only data from satellites totally free
[4:12] <mattwj2002> Wikipedia news articles weather
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[4:13] <mattwj2002> Etc
[4:13] <ali1234> you can get bitcoin from space now apparently
[4:14] <mattwj2002> How does that work?
[4:14] <ali1234> they send the blockchain over a satellite feed
[4:15] <mattwj2002> Crazy
[4:15] <Latrina> btw no I am using -O2
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[4:17] <Latrina> apparently what is left to do is wireless and bluetooth drivers, usb boot and some polishing up here and there
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[4:19] <mattwj2002> Latrina what is up?
[4:19] <Latrina> so yes the entire rootfs is 2.8Gb, 1.4Gb of which is portage itself
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[4:20] <Latrina> I will export the portage from one of my NAS and mount it
[4:20] <Latrina> on the pi.
[4:20] <Latrina> he mattwj2002, 3:21am and I am still here.. I will go to sleep actually.. Good night
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[4:21] <mattwj2002> Good night buddy
[4:21] <ali1234> my build files are a few kb, build tree is 9.1GB, output is a 65MB firmware
[4:21] <ali1234> sometimes i wonder how so much can produce so little
[4:22] <Latrina> whats the size of the rootfs?
[4:22] <ali1234> 62MB compressed
[4:22] <Latrina> 0_0
[4:22] <Latrina> mine is 750mb .tbz2
[4:23] <Latrina> shocked..
[4:23] <ali1234> 339MB uncompressed
[4:23] <Latrina> wow, well congrats I guess :)
[4:23] <Latrina> I will sleep, I am dying.. good night :)
[4:24] <ali1234> night
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[6:30] <alkisg> Hi, does anyone run firefox 56 in rpi2/3 in any distro? Because it's broken in ubuntu-mate, and I'm trying to see if it's distro specific, or a general firefox issue...
[6:30] <alkisg> ExceptionHandler::GenerateDump cloned child 5192ExceptionHandler::WaitForContinueSignal waiting for continue signal... ExceptionHandler::SendContinueSignalToChild sent continue signal to child
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[8:06] <alkisg> Eight
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[11:53] <Latrina> good morning
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[14:44] <NyanCat> Hi all, I hope this is the right place. I'm running the hexchat package installed from apt on raspbian. Whenever I try to run the /sysinfo command, there's no error, it just.. Closes the client. I'm trying to figure out why. Anyone else having this same issue?
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[15:28] <at0m> NyanCat: then check what /sysinfo does. is it an alias to execute a program you don't have? if it's an alias, can you run it from bash or?
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[15:28] <at0m> NyanCat: probably also #hexchat
[15:28] <NyanCat> at0m: /sysinfo is just a plugin for hexchat (installed as a dependency with the hexchat package) that outputs various info about the machine it's running on
[15:29] <NyanCat> Yeah thinking I might go over there too
[15:29] <HexChat> Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional (x64) • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3320M CPU @ 2.60GHz (2.60GHz) • Memory: 15.8 GiB Total (7.7 GiB Free) • Storage: 163.2 GiB / 446.9 GiB (283.7 GiB Free) • VGA: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000 • Uptime: 1h 17m 9s
[15:29] <NyanCat> Leave it to someone here to have that name.. Hah
[15:29] <HexChat> it's a dll on Windows
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[16:16] <Latrina> how can I make sure the SPI pins are functional hw wise?
[16:16] <Latrina> I am unable to connect to the uart
[16:16] <ShorTie> go a scope ??
[16:16] <Latrina> I dont have it
[16:17] <Latrina> I dont have anything to measure the voltage of the pins, if this is what you are asking
[16:19] <Latrina> as says here I am plugging TXD to pin 8 and RXD on 10 https://pinout.xyz/pinout/pin1_3v3_power
[16:19] <Latrina> I have even plugged the ground pin to see if it would make any difference but no go
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[16:32] <xorpad> any 64 bit options for rpiv3 other than gentoo?
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[16:32] <redrabbit> raspbian
[16:32] <xorpad> I know there is ubuntu for 64 bit arm but it's an installer iso and I don't know how to boot an ISO from it...
[16:32] <xorpad> raspian isn't 64 bit
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[16:33] <redrabbit> ah. why do you need 64 bit
[16:33] <xorpad> they only offer armhf images, no arm64
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[16:33] <xorpad> redrabbit, because I need a native armv8 environment for a tool that works native, but doesn't support aarch64 when cross-building
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[16:34] <xorpad> I need to use the lb live-build tool to build a rootfs for the ubuntu touch port I'm working on
[16:34] <redrabbit> and there's no way to do it without a 64bit dist right
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[16:35] <xorpad> redrabbit, well, I could add arm64 support to the tool, but then I'd have to spend a lot of time learning how to the tool works to get proper results
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[16:36] <Blubberbub> arch has a 64 bit thing - don't know it, though: https://archlinuxarm.org/platforms/armv8/broadcom/raspberry-pi-3
[16:36] <xorpad> thank's Blubberbub. Will check that out
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[16:36] <xorpad> actually... screw it, I'm gonna gentoo this crap. But I need to install gentoo on a PC before I can use the gentoo handbook for rpi3 64 bit
[16:37] <Blubberbub> that disclaimer is not very encouraging, though
[16:37] <SirLagz> logic check...if there's no interfaces configuration in dhcpcd.conf...then dhcpcd should just use DHCP to get an IP address right?
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[16:43] <Blubberbub> Does gentoo on a raspberry need a box full of other raspberries that serve as compiling slaves? ;)
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[16:48] <Latrina> xorpad: I am building a stage4 if you are interested
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[16:49] <xorpad> Latrina, Yes I am! if you care to post it somewhere and link it+ highlight me, I would appreciate it very much
[16:49] <xorpad> wait Latrina is it headless?
[16:49] <xorpad> I don't want a desktop
[16:49] <Latrina> no X whatsoever
[16:50] <Latrina> I have no need for it
[16:50] <Latrina> I am rebuilding the kernel to get bluetooth and wireless to work
[16:50] <xorpad> perfect! I would love to get a copy of it
[16:50] <xorpad> If you send that I will make babies with you
[16:50] <Latrina> the rootfs will be like 1.3Gb
[16:50] <xorpad> oh
[16:50] <Latrina> I have heard someone made it smaller but I embedded some tools that I need
[16:51] <xorpad> Well, I've already resigned to installing gentoo on my threadripper box so I can build my own rpi 3b image
[16:51] <xorpad> ahh
[16:51] <xorpad> I need it, so that I can run a 64 bit chroot of ubuntu
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[16:52] <xorpad> I need a tool only in debian/ubuntu, and neither of them offer 64 bit images for rpi
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[16:52] <xorpad> live-build
[16:53] <Latrina> xorpad: this is what I installed https://pastebin.com/vufrxjPw
[16:53] <xorpad> ahh
[16:53] <Latrina> some of those packages do have quite few dependecies
[16:54] <Latrina> reason why the stage4 grew a bit
[16:54] <xorpad> i see
[16:54] <xorpad> i guess i'll just build my own image
[16:54] <Latrina> no bother
[16:54] <xorpad> Well, I already commited
[16:54] <xorpad> lol
[16:54] <xorpad> I need to reinstall gentoo on this pc anyways
[16:55] <xorpad> I removed it to put ubuntu on it, but I need mah gentoo
[16:55] <Latrina> I heard somebody here made one that stayed within 350mb something
[16:55] <xorpad> i need ubuntu for certain things that it simplifies
[16:55] <xorpad> but i prefer arch/gentoo
[16:55] <Latrina> make sense
[16:56] <xorpad> Basically AOSP/LineageOS/Ubuntu Touch, which are the 3 things I compile frequently, all require things that are most easily obtained and configured by using the recommended distro which is ubuntu
[16:57] <xorpad> recommended is 16.04 ubuntu
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[16:57] <xorpad> I dislike ubuntu because when you try to customize things in some ways the install will self-destruct
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[16:59] <xorpad> i'm gonna set up KVM with gpu and SSD passthrough I think
[16:59] <Latrina> in my opinion the only distribution that leaves choises in your hands is gentoo via uses
[17:00] <Latrina> and well freebsd, although that is another story
[17:00] <xorpad> Latrina, Arch is similar to gentoo except it's a binary distribution not source based
[17:00] <Latrina> you don't have uses in arch do you?
[17:00] <xorpad> no, but like, you build the distro yourself using a live cd with a package manager
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[17:00] <xorpad> so you select all the components
[17:01] <xorpad> which is what I meant by they are similar
[17:01] <xorpad> but I much prefer gentoo, because I have modern hardware, I don't want my computer limited to instruction sets that were in the athlon 64 10-12 years ago
[17:02] <xorpad> now that I have a 16 core hyperthreaded cpu, gentoo isn't even a time sink
[17:02] <Latrina> xorpad: you can do that why any distros
[17:02] <Latrina> even the dumbest
[17:02] <xorpad> Latrina, not to the extent you can with arch
[17:03] <xorpad> I mean, try doing that with ubuntu, you can install their server install, or do a net install, but you can't switch from systemd to another init system easily
[17:07] <Latrina> arch doesn't support anything that isnt systemd
[17:07] <Latrina> am I wrong?
[17:07] <Habbie> Latrina, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SysVinit
[17:07] <Habbie> Latrina, read the text in the red box
[17:07] <Latrina> I know you can use openrc or runit but most of the packages are built for systemd
[17:07] <Habbie> that is my impression as well
[17:08] <Latrina> Habbie: yes I knoew it
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[17:08] <Habbie> i would strongly suggest sticking with the default init system for a distro
[17:08] <Latrina> in my opinion arch is simply not worth regardless of arch and init system
[17:08] <xorpad> Latrina, you can use others but arch is by default systemd
[17:09] <Habbie> every other approach will lead to pain and suffering and eventually the dark side
[17:09] <Latrina> I generally never liked it so
[17:09] <xorpad> if you use pacman to bootstrap install, then it will use systemd
[17:09] <xorpad> but if you manually select packages you can select an alternative
[17:09] <Latrina> like I saids, not worth the struggle
[17:10] <Latrina> especially when things break and nobody will help you out because you are using something else other than systemd
[17:10] <xorpad> Latrina, this is a valid point
[17:10] <Latrina> and knowing the arch community well enough, I might as well be better with Windows
[17:10] <GenteelBen> lol
[17:10] <xorpad> but I still would rather use arch for my servers than gentoo
[17:10] <xorpad> and by servers I mean vps's
[17:10] <GenteelBen> This is like trying to choose which strain of hepatitis we'd want to contract.
[17:10] <Latrina> arch as server? doh..
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[17:11] <xorpad> Latrina, yes... It's worked out great so far
[17:11] <ali1234> "not using debian"
[17:11] <xorpad> My VPS provider doesn't offer arch, so I made a script to covert a running debian installation into an arch installation that will boot when you reboot
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[17:12] <xorpad> Arch is more stable than gentoo as far as rolling releases go
[17:12] <xorpad> not that i've had any issues with gentoo that couldn't be resolved
[17:12] <Latrina> Arch more stable than gentoo? oh alright
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[17:13] <ali1234> i quit using gentoo when a glibc upgrade broke the compiler
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[17:13] <xorpad> well, in terms of not pushing packages that are really new and not stable, yeah arch is better
[17:13] <ali1234> and i could not compile any fixes
[17:13] <Latrina> ali1234: how long has it been?
[17:13] <Latrina> I quit using Archlinux when KDE would break for each and every new packages installed
[17:13] <Latrina> or for X server randomly die
[17:14] <ali1234> KDE does that on every distro tho
[17:14] <Latrina> or for system freezing etc
[17:14] <Latrina> ali1234: not on gentoo apparently
[17:14] <Latrina> since I have not had a single, and I am saying a single crash in a year
[17:15] <Latrina> gentoo stable is perhaps the most stable rolling release out there
[17:15] <Latrina> even comparing it against opensuse
[17:15] <Latrina> at least for x86 and amd64
[17:15] <Latrina> other arches are a bit different
[17:16] <Latrina> and not to mention the gentoo community is awesome in all front
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[17:16] <Latrina> which for me is perpahs the most important thing
[17:16] <Latrina> if something breaks and I cant figure out what it is, I need help and I need it badly
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[17:18] <Latrina> of course I respect everyone point of view, but gentoo with stable portage on amd64 and x86 is truly stable
[17:18] <Latrina> and KDE plasma5 is stable on gentoo!
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[17:19] <shauno> I actually found the complete opposite. the gentoo 'community' were so toxic online, I never wanted to try it because I never wanted anything to do with them
[17:19] <ali1234> when i used to use gentoo i used it with KDE and it never worked properly
[17:19] <ali1234> it used to switch DPI in between every login. it was really annoying
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[17:19] <ali1234> every time i logged in i had to change the font size
[17:19] <ali1234> every single time
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[17:22] <SirLagz> shauno: sounds like a lot of online communities
[17:23] <Latrina> shauno: if I am where I am today is thanks to them
[17:24] <Latrina> they helped me with the most dumbest questions ever
[17:24] <SirLagz> Anyone think having dhcp lease information for your device on a web interface is useful?
[17:24] <Habbie> SirLagz, i do
[17:25] <ali1234> its more useful to have it on a web interface on the dhcp server
[17:25] <ali1234> then you can see it all in one place
[17:25] <Habbie> ali1234, oh - that is what i meant to say yes to
[17:25] <SirLagz> Habbie: not what I meant lol. I meant on the client device
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[17:25] <ali1234> on the device i rather have avahi
[17:25] <SirLagz> though this device could end up being a DHCP server...
[17:25] <Habbie> SirLagz, well, not gonna say no, but can't immediately think of a use
[17:25] <SirLagz> eh, I won't bother with it for now then
[17:25] <Habbie> SirLagz, what are you building?
[17:26] <SirLagz> Habbie: https://github.com/billz/raspap-webgui
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[17:26] <ali1234> if you got a web interface already then might as well add it
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[17:27] <SirLagz> not sure if it'd be immediately useful though...I can't think of any uses for it either
[17:27] <Habbie> so
[17:27] <Habbie> the related dhcp server might be your ISPs?
[17:28] <SirLagz> Habbie: potentially...
[17:28] <Habbie> then it sounds somewhat useful
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[17:29] <SirLagz> I guess it depends on whether someone actually connects up a Pi via PPPoE or something lol
[17:29] <Habbie> uhuh
[17:29] <Habbie> well PPPoE does not have dhcp leases
[17:30] <SirLagz> Habbie: well, PPP
[17:30] <Habbie> PPP also does not have dhcp leases in general
[17:30] <Habbie> unless you then run ethernet over it but what madman does that
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[17:31] <SirLagz> heh
[17:31] <Habbie> it was a rethorical question
[17:31] <Habbie> i fear the real answer to it
[17:31] <Habbie> feel free not to answer ;)
[17:31] <SirLagz> wasn't going to answer :P
[17:31] <Habbie> :D
[17:31] <Habbie> bbl
[17:32] <SirLagz> I'll put a todo on this feature then.
[17:32] <Habbie> sounds good
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[17:32] <SirLagz> in the meantime...time to test out my web interface to set dhcp or static ip addresses!
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[17:33] <willy23123> Good luck SirLagz
[17:34] <willy23123> Remember reading your blog back in 2013
[17:34] <SirLagz> willy23123: orly? I'm surprised anyone read it lol
[17:34] <GenteelBen> Did you read my blog, willy23123?
[17:34] <willy23123> Not sure
[17:35] * GenteelBen is deeply offended
[17:35] <willy23123> Sorry
[17:35] <GrandPa-G> Re: my experiment to crash pi to see if sd card is corrupted. I quit trying after 4192 crashes. Not one time did the OS not recover as if nothing every happened.
[17:36] <SirLagz> GrandPa-G: I've killed SD cards before by force powering off my Pi
[17:36] <SirLagz> GrandPa-G: killed as in corrupted and needed to reflash
[17:36] <willy23123> I thought the compute module flash was tested 6000 times
[17:36] <SirLagz> GrandPa-G: is that what you're trying to do?
[17:37] <willy23123> It depends if it looses power during a write cycle
[17:37] <GrandPa-G> SirLagz:The real test was to see if a specific application db file would be corrupted. That happened 2 times at the very beginning of the test and never again.
[17:37] <SirLagz> GrandPa-G: ah right
[17:38] <willy23123> SQLite has a journal file
[17:38] <GrandPa-G> SirLagz:My test was very unscientific. I really didn't load the system and only waited a random number of seconds between 1 & 120 to crash.
[17:38] <SirLagz> heh
[17:38] <SirLagz> GrandPa-G: my test wasn't a test at all...I powered it off by accident and it killed my install lol
[17:39] <GrandPa-G> willy23123:I don't think sqlite is very smart to use it well.
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[17:39] <willy23123> Yeah but what would you use instead
[17:42] <GrandPa-G> All I know is that in my production environment, I have several pi with same configs that periodically boot and the app sees a corrupted file and can't continue. I was trying to determine if it was caused by some operator pulling the plug when they shouldn't.
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[17:45] <willy23123> I went and used a small custom operating system in that loads into ram
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[17:46] <willy23123> So far it’s worked pretty well
[17:46] <GrandPa-G> how do you save data between boots?
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[17:47] <willy23123> Well I had a SQLite database in a ext4 partition
[17:47] <willy23123> Guess that could eventually fail
[17:47] <GrandPa-G> ah, so you write to the sd card, ie power loss => crash => loss of data. Sounds the same scenario
[17:48] <willy23123> Yup
[17:48] <willy23123> But I’ve had 2000 devices and only 1failure so far but
[17:48] <Encrypt> willy23123, You should consider buying a Pi JUice :p
[17:48] <Encrypt> willy23123, https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/pijuice/pijuice-a-portable-project-platform-for-every-rasp
[17:49] <willy23123> Well they all have a rechargeable battery pack
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[17:49] <willy23123> But still
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[17:51] <willy23123> I guess no matter what you do there will be failures
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[18:17] <Newsprinter> Hi guys. Anyone who can recommend a android build to install on the RPi 3b?
[18:19] <redrabbit> does the rpi 3b decodes HEVC on android ?
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[18:34] <xorpad> Newsprinter, do you mean a version tag?
[18:34] <xorpad> or like, a fork for rpi?
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[18:35] <redrabbit> Newsprinter: first results i found is this http://raspex.exton.se/
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[18:41] <Newsprinter> sorry for a late answer. Im noob with the terms in android. Its probably version tag I mean. Basically I find it difficult what to choose with all the pro and cons in the "build" i found.
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[18:47] <xorpad> Newsprinter, tags are git tags, a tag is a commit they put a name to(like a specific version)
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[18:48] <xorpad> my android tv box runs 4.4 and has h265 decoding... but I think 6.0.1 is the perfect point where everything was at it's best before they really started bloating it
[18:48] <xorpad> like nougat and oreo provide very little in terms of features, but use a lot more system resources
[18:48] <xorpad> 4.4.4 would be perfect if you merge in the power saving changes to the kernel that exist in 6.0.1_r77
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[18:57] <Newsprinter> xorpad, so you recommend 6.0.1. What tag did you use?
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[19:00] <xorpad> I used 6.0.1_r77 because that is the last tag that supports nexus 5
[19:00] <xorpad> But now I use 7.1.2_r33 because I learned more about android and linux dev and ported it to my nexus 5
[19:01] <JT-Shop> if you have a python program running as a service is it best to stop the service to edit the file or does it make any difference?
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[19:05] <Newsprinter> xorpad, how is the compatibility with RPi 3b on 7.1.2_r33.
[19:06] <xorpad> Newsprinter, I don't know if any releases support the RPis at all
[19:06] <xorpad> for one thing they need their own type of binary blobs if you don't have driver sources
[19:07] <xorpad> for another thing every release is for a different device, namely the nexus/pixel devices which are the android reference implementations
[19:07] <xorpad> There is probably forks and other projects that can let you run it on a Pi
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[19:07] <Newsprinter> ok I see
[19:07] <xorpad> but you being able to do it without writing code and building a device tree and finding a way to link the binaries, is unrealistic
[19:08] <xorpad> Look for someone who already has it running on a pi, someone who has done the work
[19:08] <xorpad> It's something i've considered doing recently but I'm too busy with Ubuntu Touch
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[19:10] <Newsprinter> Basically im asking here hoping for an answer by someone who we allready running android on the RPi.
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[19:11] <xorpad> ahh, you could also try asking in #android-root
[19:11] <xorpad> that's where the rom developers hang out
[19:11] <Newsprinter> But on the other hand. I would prefer a kind of linux build. However then I have to find a stable solution for running Netflix and HBO Nordic too.
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[19:12] <Newsprinter> I know its possible with Android so my first thought was to install this.
[19:12] <xorpad> Netflix can run in chrome/chromium with an addon that tricks it into thinking it's firefox
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[19:13] <Newsprinter> xorpad, why not run Firefox?
[19:13] <xorpad> Newsprinter, I think you need to trick it into thinking it's windows too
[19:13] <xorpad> I dunno
[19:14] <xorpad> I don't like firefox
[19:14] <Newsprinter> ahh
[19:14] <xorpad> so I don't use it
[19:14] <xorpad> i've had too many issues with firefox where the fix was to use chromium
[19:14] <xorpad> or chrome
[19:14] <xorpad> google has a better compiler than anything public, so chrome binaries are better than anything you can produce by building chromium
[19:15] <xorpad> unless you care about privacy a lot, chrome is the better choice under linux
[19:15] <Newsprinter> hehe. I think much issue is like you experienced, at least for a while
[19:15] <xorpad> but i'm not sure they offer arm binaries even
[19:15] <xorpad> like firefox's rendering engine will crash if you go to a website with a lot of large gif files
[19:16] <xorpad> it doesn't work on some cpu's, no clue why, but i've encountered 3 computers that firefox would just lock up on every time, regardless of the OS or version
[19:16] <xorpad> all were intel celerons
[19:16] <Newsprinter> brb
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[19:28] <Newsprinter> xorpad, I don't know if it could be related to the processors. I have to computers, one with intel i5 cpu and the other with AMD. I never had any permanent issue with firefox.
[19:30] <Newsprinter> however but I mostly use Opera and first when it comes to limitation in Opera I change to Chromium or Firefox.
[19:31] <Newsprinter> talk you for that chat. I will try to ask in #android-root. have a nice evening
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[19:45] <xorpad> I only had issues with firefox on those 3 celerons and on my i5 broadwell laptop
[19:45] <xorpad> the laptop was the rendering engine crashes, the 3 celerons were just... unable to run firefox. it started, then it locked up
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[20:10] <kerio> xorpad: citation on google having a better compiler than clang head?
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[20:12] <xorpad> kerio, no citation, but if you look at a lot of blogs on the subject it becomes obvious there is something that makes chrome faster than chromium on almost every system, and the only thing that would do that is a better compiler unless google debloated chrome and left chromium full of bloat, which doesn't seem logical
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[20:13] <xorpad> Like, every company has their trade secrets
[20:14] <xorpad> My business has our own gcc fork that's crazy optimized for building arm/aarch64 binaries. Trade secrets are a big part of the competitive edge in computer science
[20:14] <xorpad> the binaries it produces range from 25-45% faster than mainline gcc
[20:14] <xorpad> depending which benchmarks you use
[20:15] <Blubberbub> i don't like trade secrets like that.
[20:19] <xorpad> Blubberbub, the fact is they are an important part of keeping a competitive edge
[20:19] <xorpad> I would rather everything was free and opensource, but that's not the way it works in the world of business
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[20:35] <Latrina> comparing archlinux armv7 image for the rpi3 rootfs + kernel takes 1Gb
[20:35] <Latrina> mine is seating at 1.3G with all of what I installed, no bad
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[20:42] <xorpad> Latrina, can you upload it if I give you sftp access somewhere?
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[20:52] <Latrina> sure
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[20:52] <Latrina> I can upload it on google drive if you want
[20:52] <Latrina> there are still few things left to do like
[20:52] <Latrina> ntp
[20:53] <Latrina> and the wireless card bloob needs to be compiled in the kernel
[20:53] <Latrina> though I will get it done tomorrow at some point
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[20:54] <Latrina> and I couldn't figure out how to connect with the uart, but I suppose that has anything to do with gentoo since I couldn't with raspian either
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[21:08] <xorpad> Latrina, I could use it as is, or you could wait to upload it until later, if you want to upload now I'll dl it, since i don't need wireless
[21:09] <xorpad> In fact i don't want wireless because it's slow on my hope network. I get almost double the bandwidth my wifi router can handle
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[21:26] <Latrina> okay
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[21:30] <xorpad> Latrina, thanks for sharing eh? because I'm still installing gentoo lol
[21:30] <xorpad> I had some issues setting up kvm the way I wanted so I just started installing it now
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[21:40] <Latrina> archiving now
[21:40] <Latrina> I should be able to upload it in one hour
[21:40] <Latrina> or less
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[21:52] <xorpad> cool, awesome Latrina
[21:52] <xorpad> you're amazing
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[22:10] <Tekknobard> Is this an appropriate channel to talk about Raspberry Pi Desktop x86?
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[22:40] <Latrina> xorpad: upload is taking little longer than expected
[22:40] <Latrina> my bad
[22:40] <xorpad> Latrina, No worries
[22:40] <Latrina> Tekknobard: I suppose
[22:41] <xorpad> thanks for uploading it at all, i'm not gonna complain
[22:46] <Tekknobard> Latrina: just trying to find guidance on dual-booting it with Win10
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[22:48] <GrandPa-G> In ICE using python script, if I want to mute a user when they enter a specific channel, I assume I check in userStateChanged. If so, how do I do a state change to mute and not end up in an endless loop?
[22:48] <xorpad> Tekknobard, dual-booting what with win10 on what hardware?
[22:48] <Tekknobard> Lenovo Thinkpad T520
[22:48] <GrandPa-G> Oops, sorry, wrong place to ask.
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[22:50] <Latrina> rpi3_rootfs-29102017
[22:50] <Latrina> sorry wrong paste
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[22:59] <Latrina> 0517844cd7bba9e500d4774846e656f0 rpi3_rootfs-29102017.tar.bz2
[22:59] <Latrina> psammarco@ThinkPad /mnt/backup/raspberrypi/rpi3_rootfs-29102017 $ du -h --max-depth=1 rpi3_rootfs-29102017.tar.bz2
[22:59] <Latrina> 425M rpi3_rootfs-29102017.tar.bz2
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[23:00] <Latrina> rum emerge --sync to sync the portage via git
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[23:01] <Latrina> almost done uploading. I am using the hostpot tonight since we had a power outage and internet died throughout the whole street
[23:02] <xorpad> oh:(
[23:02] <xorpad> power outages drive me crazy
[23:02] <Encrypt> xorpad, Buy a Pi Juice :P
[23:02] <xorpad> so I keep 2 fully charged netbooks with 12+ hour battery life, and I have a 25,000 mah usb powerbank to recharge my phone
[23:03] <xorpad> unless the cell phone network goes down I got 24 hours of power
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[23:03] <Encrypt> Ah, I thought you were talking about power outages on your Pi
[23:03] <HrdwrBoB> xorpad: nice
[23:03] <HrdwrBoB> xorpad: I considered doing that
[23:03] <HrdwrBoB> but meh
[23:03] <HrdwrBoB> typically my phone and laptop is charge
[23:03] <HrdwrBoB> charged
[23:03] <HrdwrBoB> and a power outage of more than a few hours is rare
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[23:03] <Encrypt> xorpad, You can ping Elon Musk about that :P
[23:03] <xorpad> I also have a large supply of text books on a variety of subjects incase the internet goes down
[23:04] <HrdwrBoB> the main problem is that the 3g/4g gets FLOODED
[23:04] <HrdwrBoB> because everyone does the same thing
[23:04] <xorpad> if the internet goes down I have about 300 text books and 200 coding reference manuals
[23:04] <xorpad> I have LTE on a very very fast network
[23:04] <Encrypt> xorpad, Where are you living?
[23:04] <xorpad> them getting flooded would mean i get 1MB/s instead of 12
[23:04] <xorpad> In Canada
[23:04] <xorpad> near toronto
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[23:05] <Encrypt> That's surprising
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[23:06] <xorpad> what about it surprises you?
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[23:08] <Encrypt> xorpad, I wouldn't have thought power outages are frequent in some parts of Canada
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[23:08] <xorpad> Encrypt, they aren't but I have mental health issues that cause me to stay alone most of the time and the internet/books are my world
[23:09] <xorpad> the last power outage was when 1/3 of the north american power grid went down for 3 days like 10+ years ago
[23:10] <xorpad> I just sat outside my building with my camping stove and barbecue and cooked food for people in the same building as me
[23:10] <xorpad> cause no one had any way to cook food
[23:10] <Encrypt> Eh eh :P
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[23:10] <Latrina> I lived in Canada for about two years in 2012
[23:10] <xorpad> i took an 8 hour break to attend a rave that the promoter was able to get a diesel generator for
[23:10] <Latrina> good time
[23:10] <xorpad> :D
[23:11] <xorpad> Latrina, how did you like it here?
[23:11] <Latrina> my internet is 100MB up and down
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[23:11] <Latrina> but hey, a huge tree decided to fall on the electric panel that control the whole street
[23:12] <Latrina> electricity was restored within 6 hours but still waiting for the internet to come back up
[23:12] <Latrina> xorpad: Canada is and has always been my dream country
[23:13] <Latrina> anytime I think about it tears drop down of my eyes
[23:13] <Latrina> but hey, life goes on, I guess
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[23:13] <xorpad> I love living here, why did you have to leave?
[23:13] <Latrina> Immigration
[23:14] <Latrina> I mean I can come back at any time, I decided to leave voluntarily
[23:15] <xorpad> Oh
[23:15] <Latrina> but whats the point to live in a place where the immigration tells you are not a good fit and we don't need you
[23:15] <xorpad> well you should
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[23:16] <Latrina> I am not 20 anymore man. Can't go back to work in a kitchen to make minimum wage and under the table
[23:16] <Latrina> you do that when your 20, not 30
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[23:16] <xorpad> I'm 32 and i'd drop everything to come live here if i lived somewhere else
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[23:17] <Latrina> uhm, without access to public services, health care, not even able to open a basic bank account?
[23:17] <xorpad> Latrina, no, like properly immigrate
[23:17] <Latrina> and to be used in a rotten kitchen for minimum wage only when they need you? think again
[23:18] <Latrina> I cannot properly immigrate
[23:18] <xorpad> you can get health care in this province(Ontario) for a small fee if you haven't lived here long enough to qualify
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[23:18] <Latrina> I am not high skilled they says
[23:18] <Latrina> I am not rich
[23:18] <xorpad> and minimum wage is about to go to $15 in Ontario
[23:18] <Latrina> I am not a refugee either
[23:18] <xorpad> You could marry someone here
[23:18] <Latrina> well in 2012 was 8 something
[23:18] <Tekknobard> Dooing more research, I don't require direct access to hardware, I guess I'll just make a Hyper-V VM of the Raspberry Pi Desktop x86.
[23:18] <Tekknobard> I can always repartition and dual-boot later.
[23:19] <xorpad> Why do you want an x86 raspberry pi?
[23:19] <Latrina> xorpad: how? I never met anyone that cared to stay with me to begin with
[23:19] <Latrina> and I will get married soon anyways
[23:19] <Tekknobard> It's the RPi Liinux Desktop distro for x86 --DVD in MagPi I got recently
[23:19] <Latrina> not with a Canadian though
[23:19] <xorpad> Latrina, I have married before for imigration purposes. It's perfectly legal as long as you actually do the things you have to to qualify
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[23:20] <xorpad> I married a russian girl, she paid all the bills and in exchange I stayed married to he for the required 4 years before she could stay, then we divorced
[23:21] <Latrina> xorpad: https://goo.gl/TJMHef
[23:21] <xorpad> It was sweet, I was basically a house guest of hers except we were legally married
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[23:21] <xorpad> THANKS!!!!!
[23:21] <Latrina> oh
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[23:21] <Latrina> well, I didn't want to do exactly that
[23:21] <Latrina> no bother
[23:21] <u1dzer0> xorpad that would be sad to me.. marrying a gal just to have her leave 4 years later..
[23:22] <xorpad> Well, you can, as long as you tell them honestly at immigration that the marriage is a legal agreement
[23:22] <u1dzer0> not judging.. it would just depress me if it was me
[23:22] <xorpad> u1dzer0, we weren't intimate, we were just room mates
[23:22] <u1dzer0> no I get that.
[23:22] <Latrina> I don0t think the immigration would let you do that
[23:22] <xorpad> we slept together once because I insisted on following every law/rule, and you have to consumate the marriage
[23:23] <Latrina> rofl
[23:23] <Latrina> awesome
[23:23] <u1dzer0> nice
[23:23] <xorpad> Latrina, they do, it's not against the law to marry for reasons other than love and it's not against the law to marry for the purposes of immigration
[23:23] <xorpad> but it is against the law to lie when you are immigratin
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[23:23] <u1dzer0> xorpad in what country?
[23:23] <Latrina> what can I say
[23:23] <xorpad> Canada
[23:24] <Latrina> I guess I must have been the most supid one to have left
[23:24] <xorpad> you have to leave. You have to come, get married, leave, and apply to come here as a landed immigrant
[23:24] <Latrina> I wanted to do things the right way and unfortunately I couldn't
[23:24] <xorpad> I know a lot about how the border works
[23:24] <xorpad> lol /me coughs *fed*
[23:24] <Latrina> never looked into marriage honestly
[23:25] <Latrina> anytime I go to Canada immigration officers do treat me like rubbish, why? no idea
[23:25] <Latrina> never broken any rules, never
[23:25] <xorpad> Latrina, because they treat everyone like that
[23:25] <Latrina> not even in the US they had ever done that to me
[23:25] <Latrina> well its not nice you know
[23:25] <xorpad> Latrina, they are firm and strict and to the point, don't take offense to it
[23:26] <Latrina> I am sorry I do not agree with it
[23:26] <xorpad> Well you're free to disagree
[23:26] <Latrina> if you come to my country my immigration wont treat you that way
[23:26] <Latrina> at this point they should
[23:26] <xorpad> You should have seen the time I tried to cross into USA
[23:26] <Latrina> I am not american
[23:26] <xorpad> and found out after i crossed the border than I'm an enemy of the state
[23:26] <Latrina> and I don't live in the US either
[23:27] <xorpad> rofl
[23:27] <xorpad> I had to call in some big favours to get back to canada
[23:27] <xorpad> I was in a holding cell for 3 weeks
[23:27] <xorpad> interogated frequently
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[23:28] <xorpad> at least i didn't get water boarded
[23:28] <xorpad> okay i got the file
[23:28] <xorpad> extracting it now
[23:28] <Latrina> I used to live in Barrie
[23:28] <Latrina> lovely place
[23:29] <Latrina> I also lived in Toronto for 6 months
[23:29] <xorpad> Barrie is nice if you don't mind having nothing to do
[23:29] <Latrina> I love that
[23:29] <Latrina> peace and tranqullity
[23:29] <Latrina> nature
[23:29] <xorpad> barrie has one of the highest teen pregnancy per capita, because there's nothing to do but screw
[23:30] <Latrina> you never came here to the UK I suppose
[23:30] <Latrina> go to Belfast and have a walk around
[23:30] <Latrina> the oldest mom is 15 with 3 kids
[23:30] <xorpad> I been to UK once
[23:31] <Latrina> than they blame on the europeans
[23:31] <xorpad> I barely remember it though, it was in my younger days when I was almost never sober
[23:31] <Latrina> I mean I have never claimed benifts and I have paid 3 years of taxes in this country
[23:31] <Latrina> they are okay with leaving the EU anyways
[23:31] <Latrina> they got the deal
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[23:32] <Latrina> the very next 25 years of pentions have been paid already
[23:33] <Latrina> thanks to those 3 millions of europeans worker which will leave very soon and never claim nothing back
[23:33] <Latrina> except for some individuals of course
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[23:35] <Latrina> xorpad: anyways, you make at least two partitions, /boot has to be a fat one, than / and a swap
[23:35] <Latrina> feel free to add more should you like to
[23:36] <Latrina> mount / and /boot in say /mnt/gentoo and /mnt/gentoo/boot
[23:36] <xorpad> Latrina, thank you very very much for making this and sharing it
[23:36] <Latrina> and cp -r everything into /mnt/gentoo
[23:36] <xorpad> i just finished rebuilding @world on my pc
[23:37] <Latrina> unmount it, stick it in and will work
[23:37] <xorpad> so building for the pi would be starting now instead of just flashing what you made
[23:37] <Latrina> whatever works for you
[23:38] <Latrina> I would like to figure out why I cant access uart, but I dont know what else to do
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[23:38] <xorpad> Latrina, I'm gonna make my own anyways, but this one will serve me until I do
[23:38] <xorpad> I mean, I can't (no offense) trust sensitive data on an image some random person gave me
[23:38] <xorpad> but for now what I'm doing is not sensitive
[23:39] <xorpad> later on in the next few days I'll be working on stuff I don't want leaked
[23:39] <Tekknobard> xorpad: do you write your own source code and compiler too?
[23:39] <Tekknobard> xorpad: because it's all a matter of trust at SOME point
[23:39] <Latrina> xorpad: make sense
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[23:40] <xorpad> Tekknobard, I have my own compiler, it's a gcc fork, and i've read most of the linux kernel around 2 years ago, and I audit stuff obsessively before I run it if I care about keeping things secure
[23:41] <xorpad> I also have a compiler i made from scratch but it can't compete with the gcc fork
[23:41] <xorpad> it was a hobby project to compliment the hobby/toy OS i was building
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[23:42] <xorpad> but yeah, generally I spend a lot of time analyzing stuff before I use it when I'm preparing a environment intended to be private and secure
[23:42] <Tekknobard> you're more diligent than most then
[23:43] <Tekknobard> and I am officially impressed
[23:43] <xorpad> Tekknobard, lets drop the diligent and say mentally ill instead
[23:43] <xorpad> lol
[23:43] <Tekknobard> not that me being imrpessed means much. :)
[23:44] <xorpad> Like I have a computer for secureness, and it runs my own DOS clone, with a win 3.1 style 32 bit extender that has a fork of x11 in it and runs twm
[23:44] <xorpad> but it's not good for very much other than being locked down and made by me
[23:44] <xorpad> It has ssh client, text editor, calculator... and it can if I wanted to connect via tcp, no udp though so no dns
[23:45] <xorpad> Also the graphics are legacy mode graphics I didn't write a hardware accelerated video driver
[23:45] <xorpad> so it's like a framebuffer not a proper gpu driver
[23:45] <xorpad> and it only runs on one computer, because i only made drivers for that 1 computer
[23:46] <xorpad> when that computer died I freaked out, then i found same model used for cheap
[23:46] <xorpad> The reason I bought my first raspberry pi was to learn assembly for arm
[23:47] <xorpad> so I had a semi-functional kernel(nothing usable but it was enough to feel like i had learned what I needed to)
[23:47] <xorpad> It basically could multitask and allocate memory and display text out of the hdmi port... that was all it did
[23:48] <xorpad> My v2 and v3 pis were bought for native building of stuff for ubports ubuntu touch
[23:49] <xorpad> the v2 I really didn't need, cause I could have used the v3 for both architectures, but I didn't know I would be porting the project to a new device with aarch64 when I bought the v2, I just knew I was working on armv7 and needed an armv7 dev board
[23:50] <xorpad> but I should have bought v3, since it supports legacy mode booting armv7 binaries
[23:50] <xorpad> so i have model b of v1, v2, and v
[23:50] <xorpad> v3
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[23:54] <Latrina> time for me to sleep
[23:55] <Latrina> good night
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[23:55] <xorpad> later Latrina thanks again
[23:55] <Latrina> :)
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