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IRC Log for 2017-11-05

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[0:00] <Smeef> It's come a pretty long way in that time. I installed it on a manjaro box about a month ago along with the latest apache, php, and mariadb, it all works fine.
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[0:03] <mfa298> for me it's still a security risk I don't need as it provides little value for me but increases the attack vectors.
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[0:04] <donald> mfa298 me?
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[0:27] <r3> donald: yes, I wouldn't want to try and guess what the old user did to the system. Flashing a new image onto an SD takes no time at all
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[0:41] <Smeef> I'm using this guide and I'm still not getting an internet connection on the devices I've connected via WiFi, any ideas what might be wrong? https://frillip.com/using-your-raspberry-pi-3-as-a-wifi-access-point-with-hostapd/
[0:42] <Smeef> I can confirm that the ethernet has internet coming in by pinging google
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[0:43] * ShorTie Thinkz, I never find a single guide that works, normally takes 3 or 4 .. :/~
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[0:53] <mattwj2002> Hello
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[0:55] * mattwj2002 passes free rpi0w around the room
[0:55] <mattwj2002> Jk hehe
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[1:00] <Smeef> Micro Center has the Zero W for $5
[1:00] <Smeef> Only one per customer, though
[1:01] <Smeef> 2-5 costs $15 each, and 6+ costs $20 each
[1:01] <mattwj2002> Smeef $5 or $10?
[1:02] <Smeef> mattwj2002: $5, as in 50% off
[1:02] <nacelle> I wish microcenter would open up on the west coast somewhere
[1:02] <Smeef> Only one, though.
[1:02] <mattwj2002> I thought 0w were $10 and 0 non were $5
[1:02] <mattwj2002> Oh ok
[1:03] <nacelle> they'd probably do ok in silly valley, s.f. proper, portland, seattle, l.a.
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[1:03] <Smeef> http://www.microcenter.com/product/486575/zero_w
[1:03] <mattwj2002> New issue of magpi woot woot!
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[1:04] <mfa298> Smeef: for acting as an AP you could also set it up as a bridge which would remove the need for dnsmasq, ip forarding, iptables (but a bridged setup only works for the Pi acting as an AP - it doesn't work the other way around with the pi connecting to wifi and sharing that to the ethernet)
[1:04] <Smeef> I'm sure they'll get there eventually, they get a lot of merch from Asia, and the shipping costs are probably cheaper on the west coast
[1:04] <mattwj2002> Smeef now I have a problem
[1:05] <mattwj2002> Do I need another pi 0w hehe
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[1:05] <Smeef> mfa298: I don't want to do a bridge since I need the AP to work without an internet connection, just connecting devices to the Pi via WiFi so I can access a web app that's either sitting on the Pi or one of the connected devices
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[1:06] <mattwj2002> $5 is a good deal :)
[1:07] <Smeef> without an internet connection or Ethernet connected*
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[1:08] <mattwj2002> I wish I could do an outernet project
[1:08] <Smeef> I've got a bunch of 1st and 2nd gen Zeros that I don't use anymore ever since the W came out
[1:08] <mattwj2002> :(
[1:08] <mfa298> Smeef: in that case if you're still having issues I'd suggest working though a bit at a time: can the client connect to the AP (hostapd), does it get a suitable IP/gateway (dnsmasq), is the dns server suitable (dhcp settings / dnsmasq, at least I think), how does traceroute for an ip and name work (dns/routing)
[1:08] <mattwj2002> The gf would kill me
[1:09] <mattwj2002> Has anyone heard of outernet?
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[1:09] <Smeef> Clients connect, I can SSH into the Pi via WiFi or Ethernet depending on which IP I use, everything looks fine in terms of connections, it's just that one interface isn't forwarding internet to the other on the Pi itself :P
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[1:10] <mattwj2002> Here is the wikipedia link if no one has https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outernet
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[1:11] <Smeef> Most of these tutorials I've been using are tested on jessie, not sure if the issue is because of stretch
[1:11] <mfa298> Smeef: that would suggest something with the routing or nat setup, check they're configured and if that seems good it's possibly time to learn how to use tcpdump
[1:11] <Smeef> I suspect that as well
[1:12] <mattwj2002> News education and weather broadcasted down from satellites how cool is that? Download only
[1:12] <mattwj2002> And freeeeeee
[1:13] <Smeef> Been working on this way too long, gonna take a breather and come back with a fresh brain, I think I'll catch up on Mr. Robot
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[1:15] <red9> And he who control the broadcast owns the people that have no other connection to the internet.
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[1:17] <mattwj2002> Red9
[1:17] <mattwj2002> It is democratic
[1:18] <mattwj2002> You can text content you would like on the stream
[1:20] <mattwj2002> It is meant to be an educational tool and something that collects over time
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[1:20] <mattwj2002> It is either 200mb a day or 1 gb a day
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[1:23] <Zythyr> Need help. I want to hookup a RPi to my Acura TSX navigation screen. The DVD rom in the truck that controls the navigation ssytem is bad, so currenlty the navigation screen is useless. Thus I was planning to hookup a RPi so I can use the screen for other purpose such as a camera. The wiring ports in the DVD rom look like this in the picture. HOwever, since I am going to remove the DVD rom,
[1:23] <Zythyr> how can I find the pinout or wiring diagram so I can connect the Rpi for display: http://i.imgur.com/FELi0l.jpg
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[1:28] <nacelle> what year tsx?
[1:28] <Zythyr> nacelle 2004
[1:28] <nacelle> looks like lots of people before you have done this
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[1:29] <nacelle> i'd google hard, maybe someones written something up about it already
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[1:30] <Zythyr> nacelle Thanks
[1:31] <nacelle> because its a touch screen its a little more tricky than just converting it to hdmi or something
[1:31] <nacelle> unless you're ok with that
[1:31] <nacelle> too bad you dont have a 2009
[1:32] <nacelle> apparently those are simple to do
[1:32] <nacelle> i can only be jealous, my car has zero fancy screens on its dash
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[1:35] <Zythyr> nacelle I don't need the touch screen working. Only the display
[1:35] <Zythyr> nacelle What are you searching onling that u found out that 2009 is easy to do
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[1:39] <CoJaBo> My car has a touchscreen; I use its buttons twice a year to set the clock
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[1:53] <nacelle> Zythyr: I googled for "acura raspberry pi" and went from there, a bunch of 2009 links/videos came up
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[2:02] <krautguy> is there a special hint for using unrar-free with raspberry pi? i dont manage to unpack a .rar file
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[2:55] <stiv> did you spell 'e' wrong?
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[3:13] <red9> Are there any built-in A/D in the RPi?
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[3:22] <stiv> all digital
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[3:45] <redrabbit> i reinstalled a new img on my rpi0W
[3:46] <redrabbit> takes forever for 1st boot
[3:46] <redrabbit> how long im supposed to wait
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[4:03] <stiv> how many days has it been?
[4:04] * ball grins
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[4:14] <red9> anyone saw any answers on RPi A/D?
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[4:15] <stiv> all digital
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[4:34] <one_cool_guy> my raspi is showing a static IP of 0.0.0.0 on my ATT gateway, and I am unable to change it o.o
[4:34] <one_cool_guy> trying to SSH in
[4:35] <ball> one_cool_guy: Well that sounds broken. Do you have a keyboard and monitor attached to it?
[4:36] <one_cool_guy> yeah, I've got it right next to me
[4:36] <one_cool_guy> ifconfig shows 192.168.0.105
[4:36] <ball> can you ping it from something else on the LAN?
[4:37] <one_cool_guy> I tried, getting request time out
[4:37] <one_cool_guy> so I went into the router and it's showing unknown device connected to 0.0.0.0
[4:37] <ball> is the Raspberry Pi configured to use DHCP?
[4:37] <one_cool_guy> but, internet works on it
[4:37] <one_cool_guy> I'm not certain
[4:37] <one_cool_guy> how can I check?
[4:37] <one_cool_guy> I've enabled SSH using the raspi-config
[4:38] <ball> On Linux? I don't know. I'm guessing there's an icon in some corner of the screen that vaguely resembles a modular connector. Are you wired or wireless?
[4:39] <one_cool_guy> wireless, but I have a wire running to it. I unplugged it in troubleshooting
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[4:39] <ball> Have you rebooted it since you unplugged it?
[4:40] <one_cool_guy> nope
[4:40] <ball> This is a guess but I would try that.
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[4:40] <one_cool_guy> alright, doing so
[4:40] <ball> (keep it unplugged, if you plan to use wireless at all)
[4:41] <one_cool_guy> rebooted
[4:41] <one_cool_guy> ping still timing out
[4:41] <one_cool_guy> hm
[4:41] <ball> What IP address does ifconfig show?
[4:41] <one_cool_guy> 192.168.0.105
[4:42] <ball> What does hostname show?
[4:43] <one_cool_guy> don't see hostname
[4:43] <ball> type "hostname" at the command line
[4:43] <one_cool_guy> raspberrypi
[4:43] <ball> from another machine on the LAN, try "ssh raspberrypi"
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[4:44] <one_cool_guy> host does not exist
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[4:45] <ball> Oh wait, have you told the Raspberry Pi about your wireless LAN?
[4:45] <one_cool_guy> it's connected, if that's what you mean
[4:45] <ball> Hmm... weird. I don't know then.
[4:46] <ball> Is the non-Raspberry Pi computer wired or wireless?
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[4:46] <one_cool_guy> wired
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[4:48] <ball> Hmm... in the part of your user interface where you told it about your wireless network, are you given a way to turn WiFi off?
[4:48] <ball> (or at least to disconnect from that network)?
[4:48] <one_cool_guy> nope, that's why it's unplugged
[4:48] <one_cool_guy> they shit the bed on that one
[4:49] <ball> Pity.
[4:49] <ball> At this point I'd usually turn off the WiFi and plug it into your wired network and reboot
[4:49] <one_cool_guy> oh, wait
[4:49] <one_cool_guy> I remember now
[4:49] <one_cool_guy> you have to try and connect to the network again and enter the wrong password
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[4:50] <ball> That's splendidly bad design.
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[5:15] <SirLagz> anyone have a Pidora or ArchLinux Pi running atm? I need the contents of /etc/os-release if it exists on the system.
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[5:23] <SirLagz> is Pidora still a thing actually? Do people still use it?
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[6:11] <Lartza> SirLagz, https://gist.github.com/Lartza/fdd0a3dba93e69c481d453fea1b43631 ?
[6:12] <SirLagz> Lartza: thanks
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[8:19] <sloth> bro this curried goat is so good
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[8:51] <GizmoRomick> greetings! Does anyone have a good begginer's guide for the raspberry pi. I'm trying to build a entertainment center fan controlled by a rasppi using a thermostat
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[9:00] <learningc> How to turn on/off a led from command line?
[9:01] <Blubberbub> has anyone measured the speed of the pi zero usb-ethernet connection? (i just learned one can run it in usb slave mode and emulate an ethernet interface that way)
[9:01] <HrdwrBoB> Blubberbub: if you need to ask
[9:01] <HrdwrBoB> it's too slow
[9:01] <Blubberbub> I need reliable 2048kBit/s
[9:02] <HrdwrBoB> learningc: https://www.google.com.au/search?safe=off&ei=eMX-WZqeL4u90gSfnbGgAQ&q=pi+command+line+led&oq=pi+command+line+led&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i71k1l4.3438.3515.0.3708.2.2.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..2.0.0....0.1gJtqQUZFug
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[9:03] <Blubberbub> actually: i found a speed result now: https://www.nico-maas.de/?p=1166
[9:03] <Blubberbub> it says it can do nearly 100MbBit/s
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[9:05] <HrdwrBoB> that is quicker than I would have thought tbh
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[9:07] <Blubberbub> Annoying thing is: i just ordered a bunch of Pi3's, because i couldn't do my project with Pi zeros because of missing wired connectivity...
[9:07] <Blubberbub> now i find this info basically by accident...
[9:08] <kerio> 2MB/s is very little data yo
[9:08] <Blubberbub> i know
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[9:12] <Blubberbub> The peripherals like PWM & DMA are identical in all Raspberrys, right? So they should be running at the same speed?
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[9:21] <red9> The wireless chips use a bus to the main MCU which can a lot of traffic. So one option is to wire that bus to some Ethernet interface instead.
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[9:28] <Blubberbub> if emulating ethernet with usb is really that fast i don't need that. and i really prefer ethernet, because i don't have a wireless network available
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[9:31] <mine9> I knew I should have left that pi with the tftp server hooked up to my swtich
[9:32] <mine9> playing "20 reboots" with my Cisco switch trying to get it upgraded to the current version...
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[9:32] <red9> Ethernet over USB is kind of quite flawed.
[9:33] <red9> mine9, Got to have the latest backdoor from that threeletterthing ;)
[9:33] <mine9> red9: I've come to rather dislike the overuse of USB in general. I want my hardware serial ports back!
[9:33] <mine9> ha
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[9:34] <mine9> well I hadn't used that tftpd in a while, last time it was hooked up as a network boot/install for a server with a bad optical drive
[9:34] <red9> async rs232 is kind of crap. But USB is not a worthy replacement.
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[9:34] <Blubberbub> red9 yea, but it fits my application very nicely. I need to transfer data from a computer to a raspberry to use the peripherals :D
[9:34] <mine9> and then I discovered just now that Cisco switches only let you update the boot file over TFTP, but the rest of the firmware can be uploaded by http
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[9:35] <mine9> throw in the fact that my ancient Mac Mini + OS X Server really sucks, and I'm pretty close to putting a pi back on the switch with a PoE adapter and using it has a tftp and dhcp server
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[9:36] <mine9> I had wanted to do that before, but getting dhcpd setup was giving me huge headaches
[9:36] <red9> Blubberbub, Firewire is a way better design than USB.
[9:36] <mine9> I loved Firewire back in the day
[9:37] <mine9> and FW800 ports kick ass - but I wonder if Thunderbolt isn't going to completely replace it
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[9:37] <kerio> ...bwuh?
[9:37] <kerio> you mean like it did
[9:37] <red9> After the P-ATA shit. They did it again with USB. To add to the injury, there's BadUSB.
[9:37] <kerio> like 5 years ago
[9:37] <kerio> or something
[9:37] <mine9> well kinda
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[9:38] <mine9> honestly the ports get kinda strange if you don't use them normally
[9:38] <kerio> tb3 is super magic
[9:38] <red9> Thunderbolt chips need high speeds, and thus may not fit cost or get EMI issues.
[9:38] <mine9> tb3 uses USB-C connectors, right?
[9:39] <mine9> I bought a hard drive with interchangeable sleds for the interface
[9:39] <mine9> the Thunderbolt connection NEVER worked properly, so I'm stuck with FW800 or USB 2
[9:40] <kerio> yep, tb3 uses the usbc connector
[9:40] <Blubberbub> red9, you have a raspberry with firewire support? :D
[9:40] <kerio> i believe it's not a required part of the spec, but pretty much everything tb3 also includes usb power delivery
[9:40] <mine9> I'm really torn on that side of things, being a Mac user
[9:41] <kerio> so you've got pcie, lots of power and a video connection, all on a single cable :3
[9:41] <mine9> newer Apple hardware really isn't that friendly to geeks anymore
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[9:41] <mine9> but the USB-C/TB3 would be nice
[9:42] <red9> Blubberbub, If Intel were not allowed to put USB on every motherboard. Then it would not reached market dominance.
[9:42] <mine9> USB would have been one of those "there's a port on there somewhere that no one uses" if Apple hadn't gone USB-only on the iMac and forced everyone to do it
[9:43] <Blubberbub> i would suspect is has more to do with the closedness of firewire than the openness of usb, then?
[9:43] <red9> yeah.. that force-everybody is quite suspicious. Especiallyy for such piece of shit like USB.
[9:43] <mine9> I keep thinking about getting one of the Pi competitors that have a SATA interface
[9:44] <mine9> would make an interesting low-power server machine that could actually store some stuff, given my general dislike of SD cards
[9:44] <red9> mine9, The problem is price.
[9:44] <mine9> it is indeed
[9:44] <mine9> price goes up FAST
[9:44] <red9> RPi has the volume advantage.
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[9:45] <mine9> but if you're only gonna have one or two, and it's going to be in the place of a MUCH more expensive full size server, then it's not a huge problem
[9:45] <red9> And the cost to have something decent instead of USB would not cost more. The problem is doing the right thing from the start.
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[9:46] <mine9> OK, these admin interface timeouts are getting annoying. I am easily distracted and can't stay on the tab.
[9:47] <red9> If money is a lesser issue. But size and energy usage is issue. More expensive RPi equalients will be attractive.
[9:47] <mine9> yup
[9:48] <red9> But I did look into the intrisics of how the RPi's with wireless interfaces transfers data between the radio part and the MCU. And there is a powerful bus.
[9:49] <red9> That should open up the possibility to do Ethernet routing with performance.
[9:49] <mine9> well I just received the strangest spam email I have ever seen
[9:50] <mine9> has to be some variant of the nigerian prince with 50 million dollars hidden away
[9:50] <Blubberbub> can one power a raspberry zero from a normal raspberry 3 usb port or is that not recommended? :D
[9:50] <mine9> btu it doesn't mention money!
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[9:50] <red9> mine9, it comes later :p
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[9:51] <red9> Blubberbub, It all depends on the current capabilities.
[9:51] <mine9> red9: yeah... came from a .fr address, goes on about his father dying and he was left something of value, but he and his father were christians and the rest of the family demands he turn to idol worship in order to claim his inheritence... honeslty I'm having a hard time figuring out what they want.
[9:51] <red9> To thin wire = *poof*
[9:52] <red9> mine9, It's junk and it's not worth bothering your neurons with it at all.
[9:52] <mine9> OK, time to vanish again. Gotta reboot the switch which means it takes 10 minutes to get the connection back.
[9:52] <mine9> red9: well that's no fun
[9:52] <kerio> the real question is
[9:53] <kerio> can you supply power to a pi0 from a wallcharger while you're using it as a usb gadget device?
[9:53] <kerio> what if the grounds have different potential?
[9:54] <red9> kerio, upload a schematic of your setup.
[9:54] <Blubberbub> kerio, that would have been my next question :D
[9:54] <kerio> [computer]--[pi zero]--[charger]
[9:54] <kerio> (not to scale)
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[9:54] <red9> re Thunderbolt. It's 10 Gbit/s per channel as a minimum = EMI is critical.
[9:55] <red9> ie expensive. Doubt RPi will ever get it.
[9:55] <red9> S-ATA at 1.5 Gbit/s is more workable.
[9:57] <red9> kerio, If the computer and the charger uses the same phase and their outlets are close to eachother. It ought to not be a problem.
[9:58] <red9> Some power adapter can however produce different results depending on their connection to phase and neutral order.
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[17:26] <jancoow> I don't know why but..
[17:26] <jancoow> writing raspbian to a sd card keeps failing
[17:27] <jancoow> sudo dd bs=4M if=2017-09-07-raspbian-stretch.img of=/dev/sdd conv=fsync status=progress
[17:27] <jancoow> It writes 4.8gb
[17:27] <jancoow> But only the boot partition is written succesfully
[17:27] <jancoow> I can't open the ext4 fs because of bad block
[17:27] <CoJaBo> jancoow: sure the download wasn't corrupt?
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[17:27] <jancoow> checked sha512
[17:28] <jancoow> all fine
[17:28] <jancoow> I wrote it 3 times now but nope..
[17:28] <jancoow> going try a different image then
[17:28] <CoJaBo> (are you removing and reinserting the card before trying to read it?)
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[17:28] <CoJaBo> Also make sure it isn't mounted when you're overwriting lol
[17:29] <CoJaBo> If those don't work, try a different card, and then a different reader
[17:30] <redrabbit> i tried idk how much guide to setup bluetooth access point on a rpi0w
[17:30] <redrabbit> they all rely on deprecated stuff
[17:30] <redrabbit> fails to get anything that remotely works atm
[17:30] <redrabbit> and i start with a fresh install everytime
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[17:34] <donald> Hello. I have got a raspberry from a friend. The raspberry has not been reinstalled. I want to avoid to send unepexctedly private file online. Which command permit to chek if a folder is connected as a server to internet?
[17:35] <H__> wtf ?!
[17:35] <donald> H__: what?
[17:35] <H__> i'm trying to comprehend what you're asking
[17:36] <donald> let me rephrase
[17:36] <Blubberbub> just remove the sd card and there shouldn't be any data left
[17:36] <donald> is my english wrong?
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[17:36] <donald> which part(s) do you misanderstand?
[17:37] <jancoow> CoJaBo: yep
[17:37] <akk> donald: Unless your friend deliberately set up the pi to send files out over the internet, there shouldn't be any issue.
[17:37] <jancoow> CoJaBo: no clue why it keeps failing
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[17:37] <akk> donald: If you suspect the friend might have done that and you don't want to, then overwrite the card with a new raspbian install.
[17:38] <akk> (which is a good idea anyway, so you know exactly what's on the card.)
[17:38] <donald> akk: He has set up a site online and I want to get his config to test local site to learn php instead of sendthem online
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[17:39] <akk> donald: Most people have a firewall on their home network, so a website you run locally likely can't be accessed from outside
[17:40] <donald> akk he is not malicious :) I just want to get mostly the same config on his installation in the aim to gain time
[17:40] <akk> (unless, as I said, your friend is deliberately running some program to push files out on the internet, or unless you have no firewall on your network).
[17:40] <donald> akk: do not worry he is not a hacker lol
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[17:42] <CoJaBo> Port-forwarding isn't hard to set up
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[17:55] <jancoow> CoJaBo: I need to unzip, right? ..
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[18:02] <jancoow> mm
[18:02] <jancoow> everytime I format that sd card as ext4 it fails
[18:02] <jancoow> even with clean format
[18:02] <jancoow> fat32 however works
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[18:05] <jen_> Is this possible with pi: transmit audio signal wirelessly.
[18:06] <mlelstv> jancoow, maybe a counterfeit card
[18:06] <Blubberbub> you can add a speaker to the audio jack to transmit wireless sound
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[18:07] <jancoow> mlelstv: a what?
[18:07] <mlelstv> a card that lies about its capacity.
[18:07] <jen_> hi Blubberbub so we would need two pis- one to transmit and other to receive assuming we can handle the D/A conversions?
[18:08] <jancoow> ah
[18:08] <jancoow> that could be the issue..
[18:08] <jancoow> I've received this card with my 3d printer
[18:08] <mlelstv> just a guess
[18:08] <jancoow> it's all black
[18:08] <jancoow> no text on it
[18:08] <Blubberbub> receiving with another pi is difficult and there will probably be some noise
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[18:09] <jen_> transmission is via wifi i assume?
[18:09] <SirLagz> Blubberbub: lol...
[18:09] <jancoow> i'm using mopidy for that
[18:11] <jen_> there will be no line of sight between the devices Blubberbub
[18:11] <Blubberbub> line of sight is not required to transmit audio over air
[18:12] <jen_> would this be via wifi?
[18:12] <Blubberbub> sorry, its just so tempting :) i will be quit now
[18:12] <Blubberbub> *quiet
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[18:30] <CoJaBo> jancoow: "everytime I format that sd card as ext4 it fails" yep, didn't even initially think of counterfeits specifically, but that's almost a certainty. They're designed to inflate FAT filesystems, formatting anything else won't work.
[18:30] <jancoow> ah!
[18:31] <jancoow> okay :)
[18:31] <jancoow> that sucks
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[18:35] <Zanza> Are all OS's backwards compatible to RPi 2?
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[18:37] <oq> Zanza: depends on the os
[18:37] <CoJaBo> Zanza: Generaly, most pi distros will support the older versions; there are some light ones that don't tho, but they usually say so.
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[18:38] <oq> raspbian for example includes the kernels for both pi1/0's and pi2/3's
[18:39] <oq> some have different images because of the differences between armv6 and armv7
[18:39] <Zanza> oh thats great I must be doing something else wrong then
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[18:40] <Zanza> Had some kind of mount errors. I will try doing some checksum's to make sure it downloaded correctly and then try to rewrite it again
[18:40] <Zanza> I have a feeling I am just messing something up
[18:42] <CoJaBo> jancoow: Just make sure to pitch the card so you don't accidentally save anything important to it. That, or gift it to someone you hate this holiday season =D
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[18:43] <kerio> CoJaBo: they're not even "designed"
[18:43] <kerio> they just loop the block addresses
[18:44] <kerio> it's just that FAT is a lot more forgiving of that
[18:44] <kerio> extfs will write superblocks all over the partition
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[18:45] <CoJaBo> kerio: Yes, but that tecnique was still designed with FAT in mind; if looping didn't work, they would have gone with something different instead.
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[20:13] <cyanide> im trying to run the pi3 off 5v gpio
[20:13] <cyanide> i have a waveshare lcd connected (hdmi + usb for power/touch)
[20:13] <cyanide> 7" lcd
[20:13] <cyanide> the 5v is being fed from an atx psu
[20:14] <cyanide> unfortunately, its not working. the lcd backlight just blinks for a second then nothing; repeatedly
[20:14] <cyanide> as if something is using too much power and the supply is being cut
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[20:14] <jancoow> wtf <.<
[20:14] <jancoow> why are the ssh host files empty on a fresh install..
[20:14] <jancoow> what happend to the old good raspbian really
[20:15] <jancoow> this is so freaking annoying, all these not-usefull changes
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[20:20] <jancoow> have to copy them from another linux installation ugh
[20:20] <jancoow> because I can't generate them without screen
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[20:35] <mfa298> jancoow: not sure exactly which files you mean, but things like the host keys should be empty on a fresh image and they'll be generated the first time ssh starts
[20:36] <Demannu> Would it be possible to have an external USB wifi adapter share internet to a wifi hosted via hostapd and the Pi3 onboard wifi?
[20:37] <jancoow> Demannu: yes
[20:37] <jancoow> Demannu: you mean like a hotspot?
[20:37] <jancoow> mfa298: yeah that should be but that didn't happen
[20:37] <jancoow> mfa298: even not after deleting the files. They where all 0 bytes
[20:38] <Demannu> Well, I have the Pi hosting a wifi network currently, I use it to control the Pi when we have no friendly wifi networks in range
[20:38] <Demannu> However, my phone/laptop has no internet when connected to the Pi, even if it has a wifi connect via the USB adapter
[20:38] <Demannu> So I was hoping to pass the internet from USB adapter to my phone/laptop connected to the wireless hosted by the Pi
[20:38] <mfa298> jancoow: the ssh host keys are only generated as openssh starts, you shouldn't copy them from anything else as they should be unique otherwise you defeat the point of ssh
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[20:39] <jancoow> mfa298: yes I know, ofcourse I understand that..
[20:39] <jancoow> mfa298: but how can I generate new ones when I can't even ssh into the pi?
[20:40] <mfa298> have you actually set the pi to start ssh, by default rasbian doesn't start the ssh daemon
[20:40] <jancoow> yes...
[20:41] <jancoow> Like I said, I had to copy some keys from another machine so I could ssh into it, now I reregenerated it
[20:41] <jancoow> but it's stupid that the keys are 0 bytes and the pi doesn't regenerate them
[20:41] <jancoow> because they where invalid
[20:43] <mfa298> it sounds like you've done something weird there or maybe there's some other fault that meant thigns didn't save properly
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[20:43] <mfa298> in the hundreds of pi images I've setup I've never had an issue with the ssh keys not being generated properly
[20:44] <jancoow> me neither
[20:45] <atomi> anyone try the AIY Voice Kit?
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[21:57] <atomi> guess not
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[22:03] <jancoow> what do you guys think? :P http://jancokock.me/Projecten/portfolio/media/projects/17/IMG_20170411_192756.jpg
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[22:03] <jancoow> I added a 3d printed stand
[22:03] <jancoow> http://jancokock.me/Projecten/portfolio/media/projects/17/IMG_20171105_212242.jpg
[22:04] <stiv> cute!
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[22:04] <Encrypt> jancoow, Indeed, nice :)
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[22:13] <nacelle> I like the details view with the temperature tracking graph
[22:13] <jancoow> :)
[22:13] <jancoow> When you click you can switch to the rain radar and to a energy-usage graph
[22:14] <jancoow> So I can see exactly how much gass or power I used this day for example
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[22:19] <kerio> that is cute :3
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[22:21] <Encrypt> I had seen something even cuter posted here...
[22:21] <Encrypt> It was a weather station using a couloured e-ink screen
[22:21] <Encrypt> It was so neat
[22:22] <Encrypt> But unfortunately I hadn't bookmarked it :(
[22:22] <jancoow> damn, give me!
[22:22] <jancoow> :)
[22:22] <akk> Colored e-ink? Does that exist?
[22:22] <Encrypt> Yes
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[22:23] <jancoow> https://www.waveshare.com/2.7inch-e-paper-hat-b.htm
[22:23] <jancoow> 3 color
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[22:27] <akk> Neat! It's not even that expensive.
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[22:39] <H4ndy> akk: be aware that is needs about 15 seconds for a screen change
[22:39] <dan2wik> My local servo now stocks micro usb cables with "Pure oxygen free copper" as a selling point
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[22:41] <irc_smirk> hello everyone
[22:41] <irc_smirk> i have a quick questino
[22:41] <irc_smirk> i have a pi 3 and ive downloaded and compiled a program on it
[22:41] <irc_smirk> now i try to compile the same on pi zero w
[22:42] <irc_smirk> but not enough memory. i have tried to increase swap file size to 2 gigs. but same result
[22:42] <irc_smirk> so it there just a simplier way to move over the files that work on raspi3 to the zero?
[22:42] <dan2wik> H4ndy, I'm seeing update rates of around 0.8 seconds to reach target colour.
[22:43] <H4ndy> full screen refreshes are hella slow tho
[22:43] <dan2wik> it takes around 250ms to send a full screen update.
[22:43] <dan2wik> around 4fps if you are updating the whole screen
[22:43] <irc_smirk> any ideas or lnks to read to help me?
[22:43] <dan2wik> Lower if you need to wait for the image to be fully visible
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[22:47] <johndescs> irc_smirk: don't the binaries just work the same on both? should be same architecture AFAIK
[22:48] <irc_smirk> well i dont know if there is a binary
[22:48] <irc_smirk> i dont know what to copy over
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[22:48] <irc_smirk> just zip up the src directory that it did all tis business?
[22:49] <irc_smirk> its probably putting in stuff all over the place
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[22:49] <johndescs> when you make install ?
[22:49] <irc_smirk> yeah it farts out of memory
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[22:50] <irc_smirk> cc1plus: out of memory allocating 478597560 bytes after a total of 171433984 bytes
[22:50] <irc_smirk> i set swap to 2048
[22:50] <johndescs> you could give a try to checkinstall so that you get a dirty .deb package that would then be easy to copy over
[22:50] <irc_smirk> can i just bump it up to 4 gigs?
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[22:52] <MarkusDBX> Hi, I'm looking for a good benchmarking suite for the rpi and other arm boards. I want to use geekbench but they doesn't seem to have any new version for arm, so looking for alternatives.
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[22:55] <[Saint]> MarkusDBX: what exactly are you trying to achieve?
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[22:57] <MarkusDBX> [Saint]: getting benchmarks of various common calculations for that I can get a grasp of the cpu speed of different arm boards.
[22:57] <[Saint]> The Rpis have enough manufacturing varience that you could skew your results pretty badly.
[22:58] <[Saint]> ugh, typos.
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[22:58] <[Saint]> Some'll run happily with a modest overvoltage at 1.4GHz+
[22:59] <irc_smirk> well guess i wont get an answer today
[22:59] <[Saint]> Some won't boot with anything much higher than 1.25GHz
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[22:59] <[Saint]> Generally speaking the GPU seems to be very open to being pushed, SDRAM is somewhat less forgiving.
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[23:00] <[Saint]> Or are you solely interested in stock clocks and not maximal values?
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[23:00] <d0rm0us3> hmmm... does anyone have a link to benchmarking software that will run on arm/pi?
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[23:09] <emaczen> I've downloaded the raspbian stretch zip file but I can't unzip it
[23:09] <Angeris> dont
[23:09] <emaczen> I've tried both gunzip and unzip and the OSX archiver
[23:09] <Angeris> you dont have to unzip it
[23:10] <emaczen> Angeris: What do you do with the zip file then?
[23:10] <irc_smirk> how can i transfer a file from a pi to another pi
[23:10] <Angeris> burn the image to the sd
[23:10] <d0rm0us3> ssh copy?
[23:10] <emaczen> irc_smirk: use scp
[23:10] <Angeris> isnt that what you want to do ?
[23:10] <irc_smirk> so one py shh to the toher pi
[23:10] <Angeris> use etcher
[23:10] <irc_smirk> i need quickly move in command line
[23:11] <emaczen> use scp: scp file-name hose@address:/path/
[23:11] <emaczen> host*
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[23:12] <emaczen> irc_smirk: you can also try sftp
[23:12] <emaczen> sftp host@address
[23:12] <emaczen> and then use "get" and "put"
[23:12] <irc_smirk> how does the other pi know the passwrod
[23:12] <d0rm0us3> erm... doesn't that require a daemon running on the 'target'?
[23:12] <emaczen> irc_smirk: Are you trying to do this programmatically?
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[23:13] <irc_smirk> no i have a pi3 and i did that checkinstall thing so i have a .deb file
[23:13] <irc_smirk> i want to install taht on a pi zero (wont complie out of memory)
[23:13] <irc_smirk> so i want to move it from pi3 to pi zero
[23:13] <irc_smirk> and im too lazy to go find a usb drive in this mess of a place
[23:13] <irc_smirk> thinking i install node and npm an http-server and wget ?
[23:14] <irc_smirk> or d this scp thing
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[23:14] <GrandPa-G> do you have a pc that can ftp into both?
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[23:14] <emaczen> Angeris: huh?
[23:15] <irc_smirk> yeah. but i have to install ftp then and configure?
[23:15] <emaczen> I have the raspbian-stretch.zip file
[23:15] <emaczen> don't I need to unzip it to get the .img file?
[23:15] <emaczen> I then want to "dd if=raspbian-stretch.img of=/dev/diskx"
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[23:18] <Angeris> sorry emaczen i thought you wanted to burn the img on the sd card
[23:18] <Angeris> on windows or something
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[23:19] <irc_smirk> how did this file turn into 8 gigs
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[23:19] <irc_smirk> damn
[23:19] <emaczen> Angeris: I can't unzip the file though?
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[23:19] <emaczen> there is a .img file once you unzip right?
[23:19] <Angeris> i burned it like that tbh
[23:19] <Angeris> from the zip
[23:20] <Angeris> i think i still hve it, let me check if it unzips
[23:20] <Rukus> im checking right now
[23:20] <Rukus> it unzipped
[23:20] <emaczen> Angeris: What do you mean "burned"
[23:20] <Rukus> *.img
[23:21] <Rukus> 2017-09-07-raspbian-stretch.img
[23:21] <emaczen> Rukus: How did you unzip it?
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[23:21] <Rukus> dd bs=4M if=2017-09-07-raspbian-stretch.img of=/dev/***
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[23:22] <Angeris> it unzips here too
[23:22] <emaczen> I have OSX and linux and I tried gunzip and unzip on both...
[23:22] <emaczen> I'm trying the OSX archive tool now too
[23:22] <Rukus> I use manjaro(linuyx) on my PC. I right clicked the file and clicked "extract here"
[23:22] <Angeris> maybe the file is corrupted
[23:22] <Rukus> you could probably use any unzip tool
[23:23] <Rukus> winrar, windows built in, z7ip .... etc
[23:23] <Rukus> ohhh
[23:23] <Rukus> man i gotta read before i type
[23:23] <emaczen> the OSX archive tool turns it into a .zip.cpgz
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[23:24] <Rukus> then find another tool perhaps
[23:24] <Rukus> or, try writing it as a zip?
[23:24] <Rukus> worst scenario, it doesnt work i guess?
[23:25] <emaczen> Rukus: writing a compressed file just doesn't make any sense to me
[23:26] <Angeris> what are you trying to do
[23:27] <Rukus> just going off what Angeris said to me
[23:27] <Angeris> im just saying,if you want to burn the img to an sd card
[23:27] <Rukus> you arent really burning a file, you are burning the contents of a file. but tbh I dont really know enough about that.
[23:27] <Angeris> use Etcher
[23:28] <emaczen> Angeris: I corrupted a SD card and I need to reinstall
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[23:28] <Angeris> i used that and it worked fine, you dont even have to unzip
[23:28] <irc_smirk> okay i was able to move the file
[23:28] <irc_smirk> now how do install via command file the .deb ile
[23:28] <irc_smirk> *file
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[23:29] <emaczen> Angeris: How exactly did you do it?
[23:29] <emaczen> dd?
[23:29] <Angeris> i did it on windows
[23:30] <Angeris> its just an app, choose the file,choose the sd card
[23:30] <Angeris> burn
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[23:30] <Angeris> ready to go
[23:30] <irc_smirk> bah didnt work
[23:30] <irc_smirk> good idea though
[23:30] <irc_smirk> screw it. i cant get bitcoin running on raspberry pi zero
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[23:32] <Angeris> it comes for mac too
[23:32] <Angeris> https://etcher.io/
[23:33] <irc_smirk> how do i get my time back with raspberry pi?
[23:33] <irc_smirk> fuck
[23:34] <darsie> irc_smirk: Try a light client.
[23:34] <irc_smirk> they should have a place where you can discretely loss your mind
[23:34] <darsie> lose*
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[23:34] <irc_smirk> pay by the hour, and just break things up
[23:35] <darsie> irc_smirk: You can lose your mind in ##ultimatefreedom
[23:35] <irc_smirk> call it the hulk room
[23:35] <emaczen> I finally got it...
[23:36] <emaczen> I was using what comes with OSX by default
[23:36] <irc_smirk> just buy up a bunch of cheap furtniture at a thrift store, and let people break it all up
[23:36] <irc_smirk> with computers as well just like office space scene
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[23:38] <stiv> bitcoin mining on a pi zero? heh
[23:38] <irc_smirk> here you go guys im really pissed off. grab my bitcoins
[23:38] <irc_smirk> fuck
[23:38] <irc_smirk> 1K4c2bNXuHiQj2P87qRj2j2k12ZimQZ2D4L2BR7dhwfM9FN6KX7X9fQEnyyS2z5wkpRT2k6bPnvBpiF8Y9eMSf
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[23:42] <irc_smirk> no not mining. running a node for a alt coin based on bitcoincore
[23:43] <emaczen> now "sudo dd .." is telling me "permission denied"
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[23:45] <darsie> irc_smirk: I can't import/sweep that key. Are you fooling us?
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[23:46] <irc_smirk> might be another alt. cant make it too easy
[23:47] <emaczen> I have the raspbian-stretch.img file, how can I get it on my card? sudo dd if=raspbian-strech.img of=/dev/disk1 is telling me permission denied for some odd reason...
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[23:49] <[Saint]> emaczen: you're positive /dev/disk1 exists?
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[23:49] <[Saint]> it's more than likely to be /dev/sd*
[23:50] <darsie> emaczen: try dmesg for your device name
[23:50] <emaczen> Saint: I'm running OSX
[23:50] <darsie> And be very sure about it so you don't overwrite a wrong disk.
[23:51] <darsie> emaczen: get root.
[23:51] <emaczen> darsie: "diskutil list" is the OSX command
[23:51] <darsie> ok
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[23:53] <darsie> emaczen: chosing a larger block size like bs=1000000 may speed up the write.
[23:53] <darsie> o
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[23:54] <emaczen> darsie: Well I keep getting permission denied
[23:54] <darsie> as root?
[23:54] <emaczen> I'm using sudo
[23:54] <red9> "permission denied" is given only when the filename actually exist.
[23:54] <red9> Try: ls -AlF /dev/disk1
[23:55] <darsie> try sudo su -
[23:55] <red9> And: dmesg | grep MB
[23:55] <darsie> Does dmesg exist on Macs?
[23:55] <emaczen> red9: I can see the file with ls -AlF /dev/disk1
[23:55] <red9> dunno. But it has it's root in FreeBSD so it's likely.
[23:56] <red9> emaczen, yeah but with what permissions? which uid/gid?
[23:56] <red9> and what does "id" say?
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[23:57] <darsie> Disable the write protect tab.
[23:57] <emaczen> br--r----- 1 root operator 1, 4 Nov 5 01:00 /dev/disk1
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[23:58] <emaczen> I also tried unsuccessfully with sudo su -
[23:58] <emaczen> I got the same permission denied error

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