#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2017-11-10

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[0:12] <alsetema> Hello people. I am having an issue with SSH and my raspberry pi. We are both connected in the same network, and can both ping eachother (my laptop to the pi and from the pi to my laptop), the issue is that I cannot SSH into the pi from my laptop, it times out (nor can I ssh from the pi to my laptop). The firewall seems fine on both ends since its alowing port 22 and the service is indeed running.
[0:12] <alsetema> This said, why could it be happening?
[0:13] <alsetema> (this has just begun happening today)
[0:14] <erg> basic suggestion, but maybe username/password are wrong
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[0:14] <alsetema> Oh yeah, i forgot to mention, from my laptop to pc it says timed out (ssh)
[0:14] <alsetema> So i can't even get to type my password
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[0:16] <erg> sounds like sshd is not running. ps aux | grep sshd -- i have two processes
[0:17] <erg> it looks like you can use ``sudo raspi-config`` to enable/disable, among other ways
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[0:18] <erg> three sshd even
[0:18] <alsetema> Yep i have two processes as well, one for root and the other for pi
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[0:20] <alsetema> and accordinng to "service ssh status" it is listening on 0.0.0.0 port 22 and :: port 22, which for what i know means all ip's (?)
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[0:24] <alsetema> hmmm it also says the service is running under the -D flag, any ideas about that/
[0:24] <alsetema> ?*
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[0:26] <erg> can you ssh in locally?
[0:27] <alsetema> Let me try
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[0:27] <alsetema> yep, it works fine
[0:27] <alsetema> (ssh 127.0.0.1)
[0:28] <erg> how about ssh 192.168....
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[0:29] <alsetema> Yep, that works too (If i put the pi's address)
[0:29] <alsetema> from the pi itself i mean
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[0:36] <alsetema> Urh this is leaving me puzzled
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[0:37] <erg> alsetema: not sure what to try next. if you're logging in a root, that has to be explicitly enabled for network access
[0:38] <erg> in /etc/ssh/sshd_config you'd have ``PermitRootLogin yes``
[0:38] <alsetema> Not really, just logging ing (or trying) to do so as the regula pi user
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[0:41] <alsetema> after i use a very very verbose command, after the connecting sequence and some time it just says it has timed out :/
[0:42] <stiv> are you connecting to an ip address or a name?
[0:42] <erg> i dunno, maybe your router is filtering port 22. can you ssh from your pi to the other computer?
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[0:43] <alsetema> @stiv I am connecting to the lan ip address of the pi
[0:43] <alsetema> I cannot connect from the pi to the other computer either, It times out
[0:44] <stiv> but you can ping the ip ?
[0:44] <alsetema> I can indeed
[0:44] <alsetema> both ways
[0:44] <alsetema> My phone cannot connect to the RPI either (ssh) but it can connect to my laptop
[0:44] <erg> try this and see if you can hit some different ports: python -m http.server 8000
[0:45] <alsetema> and my laptop can ssh to other Ips (i tried with a free service onlinewith demo accounts)
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[0:45] <alsetema> @erg, on the pi?
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[0:45] <erg> alsetema: from either, if your router is stopping traffic on port 22 maybe some other ports are open. i'm out of ideas otherwise
[0:46] <alsetema> It tells me there is no module named like so
[0:47] <erg> python -m SimpleHTTPServer 8000
[0:47] <alsetema> wait a moment
[0:47] <erg> that one is python2, first was python3
[0:48] <alsetema> My bad, it does not allow my phone to connect to my laptop either
[0:48] <alsetema> weird
[0:49] <alsetema> so, that command is stuck with "Serving HTTP on 0.0.0.0 port 8000 ..."
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[0:53] <Ubuntivity> Hello guys.
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[0:53] <alsetema> hellou
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[0:54] <Ubuntivity> I've followed the guide on https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=462982#p462982 but I'm having a problem downloading the file 8188eu-20130830.tar.gz from the links described, anyone got alternative source for 8188eu-20130830.tar.gz ??
[0:55] <GenteelBen> The Ubuntivity scene
[0:55] <GenteelBen> Someone forks God the Father, creates God the Son as an easy-to-understand downstream deity.
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[0:56] <Ubuntivity> GenteelBen: Pardon me, I'm not native English, I might not fully understand what you meant O_o
[1:00] <Ubuntivity> All the sites I've seen send me to either https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/80256631/8188eu-20130830.tar.gz or https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/80256631/8188eu-20130830.tar.gz, both of which does not work!!!
[1:01] <alsetema> I suggest you look for it in github
[1:01] <alsetema> go to github.com and in the searchbar type 8188eu
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[1:50] <emaczen> I have a 3.5 inch touch screen working but the mouse icon is slightly off from where I touch the screen especially as I move it away from the center. What can I do to fix this?
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[2:40] <CoJaBo> emaczen: Need to calibrate it; dunno where that option is tho, but now you know what to google
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[4:01] <Koyaanisqatsi`> you think it would be possible to adapt a touchscreen like this on the rpi?
[4:01] <Koyaanisqatsi`> if so how?
[4:01] <Koyaanisqatsi`> https://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-Gateway-ZX4300-01e-20-LCD-Touch-Screen-Display-Samsung-LTM200KT03-OEM/272096415965?epid=1438816561&hash=item3f5a35d0dd:g:4eIAAOSw~rpZSXf~
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[11:29] <Kliment> Hey, is there some way to use an external GPIO trigger to display images with fixed latency from trigger to display? I can bind a core and use that for checking the GPIO, but afaict the HDMI output runs at a fixed frequency
[11:33] <bq> You also have no guarantee your thread doing the drawing wouldn't be preempted, surely?
[11:34] <bq> Unless you exclude all other processes from that core
[11:35] <gordonDrogon> Kliment, yes - ish - it depends on the latency you're after - milliseconds ought to be fine, microseconds not so fine.
[11:36] <Kliment> bq: Yeah, I'd bind it to a core
[11:36] <Kliment> gordonDrogon: Anything is fine, as long as it's constant
[11:36] <bq> Out of interest, does that limit that core to your task, or your task to the core?
[11:37] <gordonDrogon> you'll never get constant because the Pi has dynamic RAM and runs a multi-user, pre-emptive multi-tasking OS.
[11:37] <gordonDrogon> even binding it to a core.
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[11:37] <Kliment> bq: You have to do both - exclude the core from the general scheduler and tie it to a core
[11:37] <bq> Right
[11:37] <bq> Thought so
[11:37] <Kliment> gordonDrogon: In that case, I'll probably have to skip the OS :)
[11:38] <gordonDrogon> don't forget the dynamic ram refresh then.
[11:38] <gordonDrogon> (and the video refresh)
[11:39] <Kliment> gordonDrogon: Well, what I'm after is to be able to hit a specific frame, when it refreshes
[11:39] <Kliment> gordonDrogon: Since the video refresh frequency is constant, there is no significant latency jitter there
[11:40] <gordonDrogon> are you looking to effectively play video at video frame rates, or just change a static image in response to a trigger?
[11:42] <Kliment> gordonDrogon: The latter - but at approximately 2/3 of the video refresh rate
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[11:43] <gordonDrogon> if you can get all the images in RAM, I'd give it a go - simple poll the pin in (e.g.) a C program then blit the images to the frambebuffer.
[11:44] <Kliment> gordonDrogon: Yeah, that's my initial plan, I'm wondering if that works in terms of the video hardware, or whether that implements its own buffering of some form
[11:44] <Kliment> gordonDrogon: I don't suppose there's any external interrupts I can use for triggering
[11:44] <gordonDrogon> you can poke pixels directly into the frambuffer without issues.
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[11:44] <gordonDrogon> there is a way to get interrupts into a user program, but the latency is in the order of 150�S.
[11:44] <Kliment> gordonDrogon: Cool, but will they get displayed on the next refresh?
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[11:45] <gordonDrogon> it's obviously well under 1�S if you write a kernel module.
[11:45] <Kliment> gordonDrogon: Well, I could run a bare metal application and skip the kernel entirely
[11:46] <gordonDrogon> I've no idea - I'm not sure you can get notified of a video refresh event. I wrote a basic interpreter that pokes pixels/images via the SDL library and it works fine, but I've not tried to make it play images one after the other, however it does have a double-buffer mode which I use.
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[11:47] <Kliment> Is there some kind of low-level documentation of the video subsystem or is that all hush-hush trade secret stuff?
[11:47] <gordonDrogon> I've never looked - there is a lot of stuff out there from what I gather though.
[11:47] <gordonDrogon> SDL was good enough for my applications.
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[11:49] <Kliment> Okay, I'll look around
[11:49] <Kliment> So far all I found was https://github.com/dwelch67/raspberrypi/blob/master/video01/video01.c
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[11:52] <gordonDrogon> you might also want to look at RiscOS if you want something usable that doesn't pre-empt your code.
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[11:56] <Kliment> gordonDrogon: Thanks, will do. I'm investigating this as an alternative to writing an FPGA-based graphics driver (which does give me guaranteed latency, but at the cost of much greater complexity)
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[12:00] <[Saint]> gordonDrogon: Kliment: surely you could just build the mainline RPF kernel with preempt disabled, no?
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[12:01] <Kliment> [Saint]: Yes, or just bind my process to a fixed core
[12:02] <[Saint]> I'd much rather just build 4.14-rc7 w/ preempt disabled than jump to the relative hellhole that is RiscOS
[12:02] <gordonDrogon> I've no experience of binding to a core, but the kernel will take interrupts - it has to - e.g. to maintain time, respond to ethernet pings, usb events and so on.
[12:03] <[Saint]> I just know the option exists because I was staring at it some ~2 minutes ago before I fired off make.
[12:03] <[Saint]> building the kernel with preempt disabled is most definitely a thing.
[12:03] <gordonDrogon> so how does it task switch then?
[12:04] <gordonDrogon> how would fork() work, etc.
[12:04] <[Saint]> I dunno man, run make menuconfig and ask it I suppose.
[12:04] <[Saint]> It's a thing, it exists. That's all I know on the topic.
[12:04] <gordonDrogon> there were 3 options last time I ran that - desktop, server and in-between...
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[12:05] <[Saint]> I...errrr....no.
[12:05] <[Saint]> Quite no.
[12:05] <gordonDrogon> so it's changed?
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[12:05] <[Saint]> Does menuconfig offer more than 3 options? Yes. Since forever.
[12:05] <Kliment> The way I understand it, preempt stops running processes mid-execution to do scheduling, whereas with non-preempt it only stops them when they make a call into the kernel.
[12:06] <[Saint]> Oooooh, derp. I parsed that very wrong.
[12:06] <Kliment> So in this case, fork() would be the event that causes the process to be stopped, and then the scheduler would run and decide what runs next
[12:07] <Kliment> However, when binding a process to a core, and excluding said core from the scheduler, the scheduler will never need to stop that process to run something else on the same core
[12:07] <[Saint]> Yeah, sorry, there's desktop, server, something I can't remember, and disabled. But you need to run a gamut of other menuconfig options to get it to show up.
[12:07] <Kliment> And preempt is not relevant in that case
[12:08] <gordonDrogon> I have had good results running a process with real-time schedulling though - I'm currently running something on a Pi 0 that multiplexes 86 LEDs and a couple of dozen switches and it's flicker free for the most part.
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[13:05] <[Saint]> What a very silly thing to not work...
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[13:06] <[Saint]> PrntScrn doesn't screenshot in $WHATEVER_IT_IS_THEY_CALL_THE_PI_DESKTOP_NOW
[13:06] <[Saint]> Can anyone confirm that? I've tried two keyboards now...so I'm pretty sue I'm good.
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[13:09] <ShorTie> sure it does not turn into a "paste_me_where_ever_you_want", like windows ??
[13:11] <gordonDrogon> it's one of those buttons I've never, ever pressed.
[13:11] * gordonDrogon presses it now.
[13:11] <gordonDrogon> with shift, I presume..
[13:12] <gordonDrogon> nothing happened.
[13:12] <gordonDrogon> however I'm running xfce4.
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[13:16] <gordonDrogon> well that was easy to configure.
[13:16] <gordonDrogon> I might even use it.
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[13:51] <[Saint]> ShorTie: not as far as i can tell.
[13:51] <[Saint]> it just plain doesn't seem to have a listener.
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[15:52] <Druid> hello
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[17:38] <DammitJim> what do we call the connector on the pi for an lcd screen where one uses a ribbon and not HDMI?
[17:39] <lopta> LCD connector, I think.
[17:40] <lopta> My schematic calls it "J4".
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[17:41] * BurtyB would call it DISPLAY since that's what's on the PCB
[17:44] <HighInBC> CSI?
[17:44] <DammitJim> would you guys recommend just getting a color LCD or mess around with one of those OLED displays 128x32 / 128x64?
[17:44] <lopta> Thanks BurtyB
[17:44] <HighInBC> or is that the camera...
[17:45] <DammitJim> I like the idea of configuring buttons on the pi and see what the system is doing
[17:45] <DammitJim> I also like the "simplicity" of the 128x64 setup for some reason
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[17:45] <DammitJim> the other color displays seem to be a little much
[17:46] <DammitJim> but I'm not sure
[17:46] <ShorTie> i like the little lcd's
[17:46] <ShorTie> backup monitors
[17:46] <Kontraband> the 3.5" lcd is nice with a stylus
[17:47] <DammitJim> I wonder why the "keypad kits" are 16x2 and not defined as 128x32
[17:48] <HighInBC> because 16x2 displays while made up of many pixels tend to have simple controllers that take and display text data
[17:49] <HighInBC> and the pixels are grouped in letter sized boxes and can't be used for general graphics because of the gaps between the pixel groups
[17:49] <DammitJim> Kontraband, any recommendation on a 3.5" lcd?
[17:49] <DammitJim> HighInBC, thanks for clarifying that
[17:49] <HighInBC> np
[17:50] <Kontraband> there is a 3.5" Kuman kit with a case on amazon for like 25 bucks
[17:51] <Kontraband> the 7" touch with a case is maybe $70 and that is alot nicer
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[17:55] <akk> Does the Kuman work with touch? I had an Osoyoo where touch didn't work, I had to send it back.
[17:55] <Kontraband> yes it does but with a stylus cant use a finger
[17:56] <Kontraband> get the Kali image called stick fingers for the Rpi3
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[17:56] <Kontraband> it has scripts built in to support many touchscreens
[17:56] <Kontraband> then find the guide for how to configure its a couple commands
[17:56] <ali1234> DammitJim: that connector is called DSI
[17:57] <ali1234> there is only the one display available for it
[17:57] <Kontraband> normally you connect a couple wires to the pins on the board to control the touch
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[17:58] <Kontraband> SDA and SCL pins whatever those stand for control touch input on most touch screens for the Rpi
[17:58] <HighInBC> spi data and spi clock I believe
[17:58] <lopta> Serial data and clock perhaps?
[17:59] <ali1234> I2C data and clock
[17:59] <Kontraband> probably right
[17:59] <HighInBC> ohh i2c
[17:59] <HighInBC> right
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[17:59] <ali1234> definitely right ... :)
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[18:00] <ali1234> SPI is MOSI, MISO, MCLK
[18:00] <ali1234> or SCK
[18:01] <HighInBC> right, M for SPI and S for I2C... love EE logic
[18:01] <ali1234> M is for master
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[19:36] <gordonDrogon> HighInBC, The M is Master, so MOSI is Master Out, Slave In, etc.
[19:37] <gordonDrogon> SDA and SCL in an I2C interface is Serial DAta and Serial CLock
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[21:33] <johndescs> I asked a few days ago what could make the RPi zero reboot when starting wifi, and was suggested to check the cable length/size and use something like 22 awg; I boucht a 20 awg set, and all seem to work fine :)
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[21:40] <shiftplusone> johndescs: thanks for confirming
[21:40] <HighInBC> gordonDrogon: yes, though both are a form of serial and both have a master slave arrangement. I notice things like that
[21:40] <lopta> johndescs: Is that the power cable?
[21:40] <HighInBC> johndescs: I have had similar issues
[21:41] <HighInBC> those 20awg usb cables are worth every penny
[21:41] <johndescs> lopta: yep
[21:41] <HighInBC> phones charge faster on them too because they set their current by detecting voltage sag
[21:41] <lopta> johndescs: Thanks
[21:42] <lopta> brb
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[21:42] <johndescs> HighInBC: seems yeah, I found a set of 5 of different size with gold etc. at 9€, not bad indeed
[21:43] <johndescs> will check with the phone
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[21:43] <HighInBC> the thicker gauge wires are less likely to break over time too. The ones with only a few strands tend to snap at the stress points
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[21:43] <HighInBC> some of those cables are like 6 tiny strands per wire
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[21:44] <johndescs> on the drawings it's clear that 28 or event 30 awg is smaaaaal…
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[21:44] <johndescs> the the cables are advertised as capable of 6000 bends without losing capacity
[21:45] <johndescs> new*
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[21:50] <johndescs> I just read why it's kind of reversed ("smaller is thiner"), why not but still counterintuitive
[21:51] <lopta> There used to be British standard wire gauges but I don't remember the details. I'd have to look them up.
[21:52] <lopta> I should go home.
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[22:04] <cybr1d> .weather
[22:04] <cybr1d> oops
[22:05] <DammitJim> are there any 3.2 LCD screens that connect via DSI?
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[22:13] <DammitJim> wow, from what I have looked at for LCDs, only the 7" is available with DSI
[22:13] <DammitJim> all other displays don't offer DSI
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[22:35] <gordonDrogon> DammitJim, AIUI, it needs secret sauce in the gpu thingy to make a DSI display work, so its use is going to be limited.
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[22:35] <DammitJim> who needs the secret sauce? the display?
[22:36] <DammitJim> I don't know why I don't like all those displays that cover the GPIO pins
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[22:36] <palmtree> Hi, I've a problem connecting my RPi to internet, I've managed to use it over SSH on local network and also to change the gateway because my default was on 192.168.1.1 whereas on my pc it's on 192.168.1.254... But still when trying apt-get update I still get the same error https://pastebin.com/q7Y4Jw2w, is it due to my network settings on RPi? Ideas? Thanks :)
[22:37] <gordonDrogon> palmtree, it's a temporary failure.
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[22:37] <leftyfb> it's a DNS issue
[22:37] <gordonDrogon> it is exactly what it says in the message.
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[22:38] <palmtree> yeah I imagined it was that, how to solve it?
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[22:40] <gordonDrogon> well..
[22:40] <shauno> down the rabbit hole, alice
[22:40] <gordonDrogon> edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change mirror doo dah into a real server - e.g. archive.raspbian.org
[22:41] <shauno> if you've been messing with your gateway, I'd check if you can reach *anything* off your network first. eg, ping 8.8.8.8. if that doesn't work, apt is way down the list of things to fix
[22:42] <gordonDrogon> although hang on - those sites are up for me.
[22:44] <palmtree> solved! :D
[22:44] <palmtree> but... just by modifyin the /etc/resolv.conf file specifying my gateway! That's all
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[23:01] <leftyfb> palmtree: to be clear, your "gateway" is probably your router which also acts as a dns server. You cannot put just a gateway ip into /etc/resolv.conf. It needs to be a valid dns server. In your case, it sounds like it is.
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[23:05] <palmtree> it's strange actually, because now I can update and upgrde but when trying to install a specific package then,.. still it's no able to find the mirrors..
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[23:07] <palmtree> leftyfb: yes exacly, but still I'm missing something..
[23:08] <palmtree> in the /etc/apt/sources.list file I've got: deb http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/ stretch main contrib non-free rpi
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