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IRC Log for 2017-11-20

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[0:05] <localhorse> hey
[0:05] <Zardoz> hi
[0:06] <localhorse> you know when you put a file named `ssh` onto the pi, it starts ssh daemon? how can i do something like that, how can i read files from that dir?
[0:06] <localhorse> from a prog running on the pi
[0:06] <localhorse> which dir is that from its view?
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[0:08] <localhorse> what i want to do is: read the file from the sd card, it contains 2 lines, wifi SSID and password, and then my prog writes to wpa_supplicant.conf to configure the pi to connect to the wifi network
[0:08] <localhorse> or is there already a prog that does that?
[0:08] <shauno> there is actually already handling for that .. just put wpa_supplicant.conf in /boot
[0:09] <localhorse> shauno: will it be removed on the first boot like the ssh file?
[0:09] <localhorse> or will it stay and be editable by windows?
[0:09] <shauno> it's moved, so it won't remain
[0:09] <localhorse> ok
[0:09] <shauno> (you can see the code that does this in /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/01-wpa-config-copy )
[0:10] <localhorse> shauno: and will the network auto connect without reboot?
[0:10] <shauno> that I'm not sure of. it'll run when it tries to raise that interface, but I'm not sure under what circumstances that happens (besides boot, obviously)
[0:11] <localhorse> shauno: thx and whats the default key_mgmt if i dont set one?
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[0:11] <shauno> no idea :)
[0:12] <shauno> I found how they act on that file & /boot/ssh (in /lib/systemd/system/sshswitch.service ) because I was interested in preloading my own payload too. wifi itself .. not my thing
[0:13] <localhorse> shauno: is any of this necessary? http://pastebin.centos.org/435221/11331871/
[0:13] <localhorse> what does it mean in wpa_supplicant.conf
[0:13] <localhorse> why does it need to know my country?
[0:15] <ebarch> the legislation is different for which frequencies can be used in different countries
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[0:19] <localhorse> ebarch: so the pi just believes me when i say i'm in a certain country?
[0:19] <localhorse> and uses those freqs?
[0:19] <localhorse> ebarch: what happens if i remove that line?
[0:19] <localhorse> will it default to US?
[0:19] <localhorse> can i remove the other lines too without breaking wifi?
[0:20] <ebarch> yup. but ultimately if you were broadcasting on a freq that wasn't allowed, you'd be at fault.
[0:20] <ebarch> not sure what it defaults
[0:20] <ebarch> to
[0:20] <ebarch> probably best just to set it accurately and leave it be
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[0:52] <redrabbit> you might get perfs issues with unproper settings
[0:53] <redrabbit> they are here for a reason
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[1:00] <redrabbit> also, you dont get any more power if you try other countries with the rpi wlan
[1:00] <redrabbit> its not particularly strong
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[1:05] <mattwj2002> Hey all
[1:05] <mattwj2002> :)
[1:06] <redrabbit> hey
[1:07] <mattwj2002> Hey redrabbit
[1:07] <mattwj2002> redrabbit are you working on any raspberry projects?
[1:08] <redrabbit> finished one
[1:09] <redrabbit> long range wifi pentest with bluetooth AP networking for low power battery use
[1:09] <mattwj2002> Nice dude
[1:09] <redrabbit> then i send the hashes to my GPU
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[1:10] <redrabbit> and you?
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[1:24] <mattwj2002> redrabbit nothing at the moment
[1:24] <redrabbit> ok
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[2:43] <CryptoPi> Hello, everyone.
[2:43] <CryptoPi> Any cool Pi projects this evening?
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[2:43] <CryptoPi> Hi, OY1R
[2:44] <OY1R> Hey
[2:44] <red9> does the Raspberry Pi have any kind of builtin serial number?
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[2:45] <CryptoPi> Currently working on getting WiiCan to work with the PI. Looks like an interesting program to use a Wiimote with Linux
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[2:46] <BurtyB> red9, /proc/cpuinfo shows a serial number
[2:47] <CryptoPi> Something cool I learned is that you can run a instance of Chromium without the search bar/tabs by running the command 'chromium-brower --app=http://mywebsite.com'
[2:47] <CryptoPi> Currently using that for cryptowat.ch to keep track of Bitcoin/Ethereum price.
[2:47] <CryptoPi> *browser
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[2:53] <akk> Is there a log file for wpa-supplicant? I have a headless pi and with stretch it's not connecting with the wpa_supplicant.conf that works fine under jessie.
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[2:55] <akk> I have a serial cable so I can log in that way, trying to debug why it isn't connecting.
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[3:24] <nickgaw> Hi, I can't find the gert board anymore did they stop making it or is there something better?
[3:24] <ball> What is the gert board?
[3:25] <ball> (I'm guessing it's something large ;-)
[3:25] <nickgaw> one of the original add-on boards for the raspberrypi.
[3:25] <ball> What does it add?
[3:26] <nickgaw> not sure it plugd into the raspberrypi and had things like light switches and a small motor
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[3:27] <Comet> i think they dont make the gert anymore because there's so many 3rd party little devices
[3:27] <Comet> more cost effective to have different manufacturers making prebuilt PCBs
[3:28] <nickgaw> My main interest was the motor and lights but I want it built into a board rather then something you have to wire together. do any motors like that exist?
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[3:29] <Comet> nickgaw have you already checked out adafruit by any chance? i know there's a ton on there, but maybe i assume you haven't found exactly what you're looking for yet?
[3:29] <ball> nickgaw: You could look for a relay board.
[3:30] <nickgaw> I would like something prebuilt not where you have to solder together parts.
[3:31] <ball> nickgaw: A relay board might have screw terminals for the motor wires.
[3:31] <Comet> at the very least, i think the motors are mostly totally separate from the board itself, so you'd probably still need to connect in the leads from the motor to a special HAT of some sort.
[3:32] <nickgaw> So you are saying I would have to buy a motor from some electronic store then?
[3:32] <Comet> really depends on how big of a motor you need. these little kits look kinda cool https://www.adafruit.com/product/2348
[3:32] <ball> Not necessarily. Where do you live?
[3:32] <nickgaw> USA.
[3:33] <ball> Ah, Adafruit's a good option for you then.
[3:33] <Comet> but it looks solderless so that's good :)
[3:33] <Comet> as far as the lights, again depends on what you're doing, but i would test out with a simple breadboard first. or perhaps an LED light array of sorts
[3:34] <nickgaw> Does the site have good descriptions as I am totally blind and so can't see images but if there are directions I can put things together ok?
[3:34] <nickgaw> like lights that are not totally bright but ones that get your attention when they blink.
[3:35] <Comet> on that link i sent, there's a video at the bottom that discusses the setup
[3:36] <Comet> probably no definitive guides. you'll find that most of these projects are up to the creator to document.
[3:36] <nickgaw> ok I will look at that video as if it has good audio naration it might work.
[3:36] <Comet> but i will say one search on YouTube for that HAT came up with a ton of demonstrations
[3:36] <nickgaw> so it is kind of build yourself project?
[3:38] <Comet> possibly. i don't know much about the use of motors with the Pi, but there are little sub-communitites for the Pi with all sorts of enthusiasts sharing information. from the looks of it, there are quite a few folks out there playing with motors with the Pi on YouTube.
[3:38] <Comet> a lot of times during your research, you might even stumble across better solutions.
[3:38] <nickgaw> What is the name of that board you are telling me about?
[3:39] <Comet> Adafruit DC & Stepper Motor HAT
[3:40] <Comet> this one looks good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUbhPKBL_IU
[3:41] <Comet> that's kinda cool because they ripped out motors from various devices that you can hack with the Pi
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[3:42] <nickgaw> I will do some research and if I have issues I will come back.
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[4:02] <ball> I've just remembered that my daughter wanted me to write a Christmas wish list.
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[5:34] <ktokko> anyone running pi-hole + raspberry pi 3?
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[5:54] <Lartza> ktokko, Ask don't ask to ask
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[6:00] <ktokko> Thanks Lartza -
[6:03] <ktokko> Read about pihole for network-wide adblocking and interested to try, haven't worked with a raspberry pi either. I saw a few youtube how to's but it was clear on how the actual raspberry pi unit is connected. I have an asus router + win7-64 laptop. Saw a deal at microcenter for the Ras-PI 3 with enclosure/SDcard
[6:03] <ktokko> it wasn't clear* how you're connecting the final setup
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[6:05] <ktokko> the hardware/cables I mean - am I plugging this RP-3 into one of the available router ports after initially setting it up on windows?
[6:05] <ktokko> I already use google dns and have a static ip set on my laptop
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[6:06] <ktokko> right now I'm using the traditional ad blocking with ublock origin on firefox (android/windows) and adaway on some rooted android devices.
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[6:08] <ktokko> i need a patch ethernet cable too?
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[6:14] <ktokko> so really, I was just curious as to how the final hardware & cable setup is set with the router & laptop. My laptop is hardwired, the static IP is under TCP/ipv4 with the gateway to my router + google DNS (for primary/secondary). I also have a VPN/OpenVPN tap adapter that's a software-based client GUI on the laptop.
[6:14] <ktokko> router firmware is stock from asus*
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[6:24] <Zardoz> ok super cool I got one of these Dell Inspiron 3050 micro desktops today for 60 bucks. and put RPI desktop on it, works flawless...
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[6:54] <Lartza> ktokko, You're overcomplicating things :P What does google dns have to do with anything? patch cable?
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[6:54] <Lartza> You install pihole either to an existing OS or install their image, boot it up then setup your Pi as your DNS server
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[7:02] <ktokko> I see Lartza - I was just wondering about the actual hardware setup... does that Pi to router cable need to be a patch cable?
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[7:03] <Lartza> No, why would it
[7:03] <Lartza> Even besides the fact that you don't need patch cables for anything really, ever
[7:04] <ktokko> Ah ok...
[7:04] <ktokko> My main interest was buying one of those media Roku devices and heard that pihole can do this.
[7:05] <Lartza> Do what?
[7:05] <ktokko> block ads that are by default enabled within the roku I believe
[7:05] <ktokko> don't have that device yet either
[7:06] <Lartza> Ah, well not sure it'll work for that but sure
[7:06] <ktokko> but the added benefit of a network-wide ad blocking system is pretty cool compared to my current setup
[7:06] <Zardoz> ktokko: works wonderful...
[7:06] <Lartza> I still use ublock on top of it because element hiding etc
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[7:07] <ktokko> I take that the lists for adblocking are automatically updated?
[7:07] <Lartza> yes
[7:07] <ktokko> yeah ublock origin advanced mode is great... plus noscript helps a ton
[7:07] <red9> don't block them.
[7:08] <red9> Download and discard. Infact begin download but abort.. ;)
[7:08] <ktokko> and it looks like speeds aren't affected either...
[7:09] <Lartza> No real reason they would be no
[7:09] <Lartza> It'll increase initial latency if your Pi is somehow taxed to not respond to the DNS queries quickly but under regular conditions
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[7:10] <ktokko> I think I read the latter comment on a random reddit search (when searching for "speed") Lartza
[7:10] <ktokko> planning at least initially to use google dns
[7:10] <Lartza> ?
[7:10] <ktokko> someone in a comment said to disable IPv6
[7:11] <ktokko> not sure on that
[7:11] <Lartza> Use google dns for what?
[7:11] <ktokko> don't we assign a DNS for pihole in the setup? (at least from the guides)
[7:11] <ktokko> there were a few options to choose from
[7:11] <Zardoz> DNS lookup
[7:11] <Lartza> Well sure but not sure how that matters
[7:12] <ktokko> gotchya, anyways I've yet to acquire the actual hardware components... end of the week hopefully.
[7:12] <Zardoz> still need to look up DNS if it's not known
[7:13] <Lartza> I get that, I don't get how it relates to speed, or anything really :P
[7:14] <Zardoz> it's local and the ads do not get downloaded to your network at all. it's blocked before the even hit the router
[7:15] <Zardoz> as the ad networks get blocked at the DNS level.
[7:15] <Zardoz> it can make things a ltille more snappy.
[7:16] <Lartza> That still has nothing to do with google dns or DNS lookup :P
[7:16] <Zardoz> you need to ready about DNS
[7:16] <Zardoz> read*
[7:16] <Lartza> No, I really don't
[7:16] <Zardoz> ok fine
[7:17] <RaMcHiP> I am trying to follow this tutorial https://retropie.org.uk/docs/Running-ROMs-from-a-Network-Share/ and when I get to mounting with "sudo mount -t cifs -o username=user,password=pass //192.168.1.1/NAS/RetroPie /home/pi/RetroPie" I am getting the error "-bash: !0: event not found". Anyone have any ideas on this?
[7:17] <Lartza> I know exactly how it all works, I just don't see the correlation between your messages and the exact discussion
[7:17] <Zardoz> ok, I will shutup then...
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[7:18] <Lartza> I mean you didn't say anything wrong just :)
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[7:38] <RaMcHiP> NM Got it through Fstab
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[7:59] <[Saint]> Zardoz: I see you took this bullet. I needed to go for a walk out, it was going to be me if it wasn't you.
[8:00] <Zardoz> :)
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[8:00] <[Saint]> You can't fix willful ignorance.
[8:00] <Zardoz> sometimes it's just best to shutup.
[8:02] <Lartza> I'm ignorant?
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[8:04] <[Saint]> Well, you did heavily imply DNS provision won't have a meaningful impact on the connection.
[8:04] <[Saint]> Not sure what else to call that.
[8:04] <Lartza> I did?
[8:04] <[Saint]> You did.
[8:05] <Lartza> To me it seemed like ktokko saw that pihole doesn't reduce speeds, I confirmed that, then they said they were going to use google DNS and I was unsure if they misunderstood pihole completely so I asked what they were going to use it for
[8:06] <Lartza> They had the right idea of using Google DNS for pihole though, which is the default, but I was unsure at that point why it mattered what DNS server they had pihole do lookups from
[8:06] <[Saint]> The misunderstanding there is that at least to me you conveyed that an alternate DNS provider couldn't or wouldn't make a meaningful difference.
[8:06] <[Saint]> When we can be talking several hundred ms per lookup.
[8:06] <[Saint]> That's meaningful.
[8:07] <[Saint]> Ping your ISPs DNS, then ping Google's. Note the difference.
[8:07] <Lartza> Ah well no of course using DNS server that's slow for your computer is also slow for your pihole when it doesn't have the record cached
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[8:08] <Lartza> Yeah ISP is faster for me
[8:08] <[Saint]> For me it's the opposite by an order of magnitude.
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[8:08] <Lartza> :P The only reason I use Google DNS is my ISP is slower at updating the DNS records, can see it when making changes to my domain
[8:08] <CoJaBo> Last I checked, my ISPs DNS was about 1200ms latency
[8:09] <CoJaBo> Also, it spams
[8:09] <[Saint]> ChanServ: ooooouch.
[8:09] <[Saint]> Errr, CoJaBo even.
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[8:09] <[Saint]> I thought my ISP was terrible with ~200
[8:10] <Lartza> Well I live in Finland so I guess Google's server is just a bit further. It is very well routed compared to a lot of other servers with 23ms though
[8:10] <Lartza> But I found an address for my ISP that does 16ms and that's not even the one I get from DHCP iirc
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[8:12] <Zardoz> my ISP DNS sucks balls for much of the same stuff.
[8:12] <CoJaBo> Probably the secret DNS for employees and customers who complain too much
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[8:15] <Lartza> Haha could be, but even the DHCP ones always come up fastest in namebench :P
[8:16] <Lartza> From the two ISP's I have experience with
[8:16] <Lartza> Really the only issue of my current ISP is worse routing abroad compared to the competition
[8:17] <Lartza> But I pay 5€ a month for a 100/10 so I don't really complain :P
[8:17] <[Saint]> Honestly I'd prefer not to use Google's DNS for various reasons, but it's basically a choice between Google and Norton if you want DNSSEC so I had to choose who sucked the least ass.
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[8:18] <[Saint]> Google wins that by a mile. Norton can go take a long walk off a short pier.
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[8:20] <Zardoz> lol [Saint]
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[11:21] <Davespice> morning folks
[11:22] <TechKno> Morning.
[11:22] <Davespice> it's the last week for Astro Pi Mission Zero everyone: https://astro-pi.org/missions/zero/
[11:23] <Davespice> it's for young people no older than 14 - Write a simple Python program using free online tools - Your code is guaranteed to run in space for 30 seconds
[11:23] <Davespice> deadline is 26 November, this Sunday
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[13:32] <realszopen> Hi all, I hope someone can help. I am trying to run SDL application on Raspberry PI 3 running Raspbian Stretch, it used to run prefectly fine on Jessie. SDL compiled from the same sources as before. The problem however is, when I try to run the app, it does not start graphically, just display the message in terminal: "Renderer: ", it seems to be starting processes as normal, but nothing is seen on the screen apart from the ment
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[13:40] <aliasunknown> Hello
[13:40] <aliasunknown> are there no raspberry pi A+ availible anywhere in Europe?
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[13:42] <zleap> hi all
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[13:53] <shauno> aliasunknown: it looks like rs-online have them (they're showing 14,000 in stock for uk & ireland at least)
[13:53] <aliasunknown> thanks. just found that
[13:53] <aliasunknown> but they dont have any zero
[13:54] <aliasunknown> looks like im gonna have to buy one at one place and the other somewhere else
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[14:15] <mfa298> aliasunknown: RS and CPC should have most Pi's (they are the guys licensed to make them) but not the Zero as that's produced direct by RPT.
[14:16] <aliasunknown> ah ok
[14:16] <aliasunknown> what is CPC?
[14:16] <mfa298> even though they're all built on the same sets of production lines.
[14:16] <mfa298> http://cpc.farnell.com/
[14:17] <mfa298> (or it might be the farnell group that's licensed - I can never remember how the various bits fit together on that side of things)
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[14:23] <realszopen> As it turned out, my SDL installation was not complete, feels stupid, need to recompile anyway due to lack of working hardware acceleration with default SDL2 installation on raspbian stretch.
[14:24] <aliasunknown> thanks mfa298
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[15:02] <reds> o/
[15:02] <reds> has anyone had any issues with LEDs on pi3? the act led and power led flicker on mine, sometimes even turn off
[15:03] <reds> it's not a heat related issue, i've hacked a radiator onto the pi (and secured the pcb, that is)
[15:03] <reds> it's not a power related issue, i've got a 4amp 5v supply plugged into GPIO
[15:04] <reds> and my pi is.. well, ultra stable
[15:04] <reds> reds@sakamoto:~$ uptime
[15:04] <reds> 15:04:12 up 63 days, 7:52, 6 users, load average: 0.07, 0.04, 0.05
[15:04] <reds> it's been happening for a few months now
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[15:05] <reds> only things connected are an ethernet plug, an USB wifi card (i need two :P) and USB>PATA/SATA adapter with an WD20PURX (WD Purple 2TB) connected
[15:05] <reds> the HDD obviously has a separate PSU
[15:06] <reds> anyone had a similiar issue?
[15:06] <reds> (i mean it's not really an issue, but i always wonder why it happens when i go to sleep :P)
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[15:16] <gordonDrogon> reds, the ACT LED indicated SD card access.
[15:17] <reds> gordonDrogon: ok, this i've figured out. but shouldn't the power led be hardwired?
[15:17] <gordonDrogon> If the power LED flickers then your PSU isn't up to it (and I don't care what you're telling me about 4 amps either - check cabling, etc. there are millions of sub-standard PSUs out there)
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[15:17] <gordonDrogon> the power LED is controlled via a low-voltage indicator chip and is software readable (and writable)
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[15:18] <reds> but it doesn't make sense. sometimes it stays on when raspi is under heavy load (ffmpeg), but other times it turns off when it's in idle
[15:18] <gordonDrogon> a standard linux run "stuff" overnight - like updating the locatate database, rotating and compressing log-files, etc.
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[15:19] <reds> also, sometimes it's like a pattern, act led turns on, pwr led turns off, act leds turns back on, etc
[15:19] <gordonDrogon> writing SD cards requires/creates power spikes.
[15:19] <reds> ok, this kinda makes sense
[15:19] <gordonDrogon> so if the PSU can't respond quickly enough to an instant demand for a few dozen more mA then you'll get a dip.
[15:20] <gordonDrogon> try wiring a big capacitor on the output of your PSU.
[15:20] <reds> well, i'm going to check that PSU, but i don't think it's the problem
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[15:20] <reds> like a couple Farads or a smaller one?
[15:20] <gordonDrogon> or, if you can, 100�F on the power connector into the Pi should be enough - but there's one there already, so who knows.
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[15:23] <reds> gordonDrogon: thanks for the tips, going to try them out when i'll have to reboot my pi
[15:23] <reds> (this is a record in terms of my uptime :D)
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[15:25] <gordonDrogon> on the other hand .... it's working fine for now, so don't be in a hurry to reboot :)
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[15:26] <reds> :)
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[16:04] <nats`> I managed to bridge eth0 and wlan 0 on STA and AP side
[16:04] <nats`> wasn't easy -_-
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[17:03] <leewdch> hello. I have an issue with my raspbian installation. I try adding ssh and wpa_supplicant.conf files in the boot partition
[17:03] <leewdch> but they are ignored
[17:03] <shiftplusone> what does your wpa_supplicant.conf look like?
[17:04] <leewdch> network={ssid="whatever\npsk="mypass"}
[17:04] <leewdch> of course it isn't formatted like this
[17:04] <leewdch> but it gives you an idea
[17:04] <leewdch> and I forgot to enter the closing "
[17:04] <shiftplusone> missing ctrl interface line then?
[17:05] <shiftplusone> ctrl_interface=DIR=/var/run/wpa_supplicant GROUP=netdev
[17:05] <shiftplusone> update_config=1
[17:05] <leewdch> that might be it but I always used the wpa_supplicant like this for a year
[17:05] <shiftplusone> need those two
[17:05] <leewdch> it is also ignoring the ssh file
[17:05] <leewdch> it just leaves it there
[17:06] <shiftplusone> yes, that used to work by chance, but it was still an improperly configured wpa_supplicant.conf
[17:06] <leewdch> good to know
[17:06] <shiftplusone> lower case 'ssh' and nothing else?
[17:06] <leewdch> yep
[17:06] <shiftplusone> got any access to the pi?
[17:06] <leewdch> I tried both using nano ssh and saving and doing the same thing on windows
[17:06] <leewdch> it's headless
[17:07] <leewdch> I'm using the may release of raspbian_lite
[17:07] <shiftplusone> there's always serial and a variety of other ways to access a headless system, but I'll take that as a no.
[17:07] <shiftplusone> hmm
[17:07] <leewdch> of 2016
[17:07] <leewdch> it's a pi zero
[17:07] <leewdch> just wanted to mention it
[17:08] <shiftplusone> without access to logs, I am not sure where to go from here. I haven't seen people have problems with the ssh file.
[17:08] <leewdch> can't I edit a file or something in the linux partition?
[17:08] <leewdch> just like wpa_supplicant
[17:09] <shiftplusone> yeah, you can enable the service by creating a symlink
[17:09] <shiftplusone> /etc/systemd/system/sshd.service → /lib/systemd/system/ssh.service
[17:10] <leewdch> it's werid tho. first time it happens
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[18:58] <red9> Shit.. toiletpaper that won't take shit. Doesn't sound like crap ;9
[18:58] <red9> ;)
[18:58] <OY1R> anyone here that can help me with PiAware ?
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[19:00] <ChunkzZ> Is the owner of thepihut named Danny?????
[19:02] <OY1R> i cant get my wifi dongle to work with the rpi
[19:02] <pwillard> Some don't work without a lot of work
[19:02] <pwillard> Worst Example: WiPi from Element14/Farnell
[19:03] <shiftplusone> Are you talking about non-raspbian distros?
[19:03] <OY1R> it just needs to be activated i guess, i tried it on a rpi running raspbian, it worked fine. but it's not working with the Piaware
[19:03] <shiftplusone> because I am pretty sure wipi would just work in Raspbian.
[19:04] <pwillard> Ah... thats a totally different issue re: your distro
[19:04] <pwillard> I've never had the wipi work... but then its been sitting in a drawer for 3 years
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[19:41] <OY1R> it just needs to be activated i guess, i tried it on a rpi running raspbian, it worked fine. but it's not working with the Piaware
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[21:29] <fury> anyone know how i can tell whether my pi zero w is thermally throttling?
[21:30] <fury> it's running at 85°C ambient, cpu temperature ~93°C right now, no signs of stopping, although pretty sure i'm shortening its life
[21:31] <shauno> "/opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd get_throttled" (ideal reply is 0x0)
[21:31] <fury> ah. 0x40004
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[21:33] <shauno> so the first 4 means it has been throttled, and the last 4 means it's currently throttled
[21:33] <fury> cool, thanks!
[21:33] <fury> er, warm i guess?
[21:33] <shauno> yeah. nothing you hadn't guessed, but nice to know it agrees with you
[21:33] <fury> so i guess it doesn't just scale cpu clock down below 700mhz in order to throttle
[21:34] <fury> cause /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq is jumping between 700mhz and 1ghz depending on whether i do it during an image processing thing i'm doing periodically
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[22:12] <Bilz> any bokeh users around?
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[22:15] <MoziM> stupid question, i have arm-arch installed on my pi3, could i boot my pi zero with the same sd card?
[22:15] <leftyfb> Bilz: where will the results of this survey be published?
[22:15] <leftyfb> MoziM: try it
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[22:16] <Bilz> leftyfb, :D okay, i'm wondering whether its possible to stretch any plots that i have created with bokeh horizontally to fill a webbrowser, without keeping the aspect ratio. i can make it stretch, but it will stretch horizontally AND vertically. alternatively, does plot.ly run in server mode as bokeh does, because it's making prettier graphs
[22:17] <leftyfb> Bilz: that's a very bokeh usage issue. Nothing to do with the pi at all.
[22:18] <Bilz> leftyfb, yep, i know. it's a long shot asking in here, but there's very few people in the bokeh / plot.ly channels. thought I might catch somebody in here with experience
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[22:24] <GenteelBen> Evening, my fellow raspists.
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[22:55] <MoziM> is there a ribbon extender for the raspberry pi zero?
[22:56] <MoziM> 2 inches is way too small for the project i'm working on
[22:56] <GenteelBen> "2 inches is way too small"
[22:56] <GenteelBen> TWSS
[22:56] <MoziM> haha
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[23:02] <shauno> there's a 15cm (6") one you'll find most places. I think the really short one only really came with the official case?
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[23:03] <shauno> I mean, the pi hut, pimoroni, adafruit, modmypi all have the 15cm one. modmypi have a 30cm one, that I don't see elsewhere
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[23:13] <akk> Is there a way to debug why wpa_supplicant isn't connecting? Does it write to a log file somewhere?
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[23:14] <akk> The only thing I'm finding in /var/log/* is in syslog, dhcpcd[266]: wlan0: ctrl_interface not defined in /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
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[23:14] <akk> I'm on stretch, using a wpa_supplicant.conf that worked fine in jessie.
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[23:21] <Duckle> I like the rule about fsck. Someone must've been creative in order for that rule to be created
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[23:24] <shauno> which rule?
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[23:26] <shauno> ah, nm, I gotcha. and that's not so creative, it's been an awkward use of fsck(8) for many years
[23:26] <faLUCE> Hello. I wrote this library https://github.com/paolo-pr/laav which also includes a low latency streamer/player. I would like to do something with it on raspberry, but don't have any idea yet... any suggestion?
[23:28] <Duckle> shauno: Really?
[23:28] <Duckle> People have a hard time growing up it seems :/
[23:29] <shauno> indeed. I too am a 30-something 12-year-old :)
[23:29] <Duckle> shauno: I'm a 22 year old, questioning where the hell I rank on maturity :P
[23:29] <Duckle> faLUCE: Hmm. you've made it so you probably know a lot of stuff about video :P
[23:30] <Duckle> faLUCE: Would this be usefull for streaming to a central PC for livestreams?
[23:30] <Duckle> A LAN that I'm crew at really want to put two crowdcams that just stream raw video over UDP to a PC that then streams to twitch via OBS
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[23:32] <faLUCE> Duckle: yes, it can stream live to a central PC ... but I don't know how to use a raspberry for that
[23:33] <Duckle> faLUCE: Which part? I mean, it's just a PC running software :P
[23:33] <Duckle> just look for video devices in /dev/ :)
[23:33] <faLUCE> Duckle: I don't understand the question...
[23:33] <faLUCE> ah
[23:33] <faLUCE> yes, it uses V4L video devices
[23:33] <Duckle> neat
[23:34] <Duckle> faLUCE: Well I'll definetly bookmark that lib, because that seems perfect
[23:34] <faLUCE> Duckle: for what? :-)
[23:34] <Duckle> the event a few weeks ago we used an MJPEG streamer
[23:35] <faLUCE> Duckle: why MJPEG ?
[23:35] <Duckle> it was easy
[23:35] <Duckle> and done in a hurry :)
[23:35] <faLUCE> MJPEG from a raspberry connected to a camera?
[23:35] <Duckle> faLUCE: Here's an example of it in use :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrZEp_u-DWM
[23:35] <Duckle> faLUCE: RaspberryPi 3 with an rpicam v2, streaming over the LAN to a PC down in the crew area, which streamed to twitch
[23:36] <Duckle> basically, it's an IP cam
[23:36] <Duckle> just a way to put a webcam 50/100m away :)
[23:36] <faLUCE> Duckle: but which advantage did you have in using a raspberry+camera instead an IP cam ?
[23:36] <Duckle> they were sponsored to us :)
[23:37] <Duckle> Hence the powered by :)
[23:37] <faLUCE> but you could use an IP camera as well
[23:37] <faLUCE> I'm searching for some ideas which are good for raspberry
[23:37] <Duckle> hmm
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[23:45] <faLUCE> by googling "low latency streaming raspberry pi" I found some wanted projects, but don'know what can be really useful
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