#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2017-11-21

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[2:47] <murkk> i have read that you can configure wifi on raspbian by placing wpa supplicant file in the boot dir and enable ssh by creating a file called ssh there. is there documentation on the things you can configure on the sd card this way?
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[2:50] <murkk> i would like to also set the hostname on first boot
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[3:03] <localhorse> should i put my .service file into /lib/systemd/system or /sys/fs/cgroup/systemd/system.slice/ ?
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[3:27] <localhorse> how can i run my init.d service under a given user?
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[3:32] <dan2wik> Anyone done any experimentation with low latency audio between 2 pis?
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[3:38] <pinoob> hi all. I noticed today that my raspberry pi is making a very high pitched whine. It seems to modulate depending on wifi usage. My pi has only power and an audio jack connected to it, and it makes the sound whether or not the audio is plugged in (but stops when the power is unplugged :))
[3:38] <pinoob> It otherwise works fine. Any ideas?
[3:39] <pinoob> it's a pi 3.
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[3:51] <unimatrixoverlod> please, serious question. After hunting google and forums there is not a specific answer to this question: If a mini-PCIe 4G LTE card says for a specific device vendor like "Lenovo" or "Dell" will it work with a PI if put into a M.2-to-USB adapter like: "NGFF(M.2) to USB" with "Sierra Wireless EM7355 Gobi5000 4G LTE" module found in this Amazon wish list: http://a.co/0rY5mRc (as a side note according to the manufacture
[3:51] <unimatrixoverlod> t is compatible with Linux: https://www.sierrawireless.com/products-and-solutions/embedded-solutions/products/em7355 )
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[3:54] <unimatrixoverlod> yes one can just purchase a little 4G LTE black box that serves WiFi, but hey, a PI is way more cool :D
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[4:15] <localhorse> how can i run a script at boot in a given dir as a given user?
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[4:25] <pinoob> I can also confirm the whining stops when the pi is shutdown, but still plugged in.
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[4:36] <unimatrixoverlod> pinoob: maybe it's a grounding issue? some surge power bars have a "line/ground fault" indicator light also there are tools to check "grounding issues". Here are some websites that help will help get the idea:
[4:36] <unimatrixoverlod> https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=grounding+issue+speaker+noise
[4:36] <unimatrixoverlod> https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/A101ZMB4hTL.pdf
[4:36] <unimatrixoverlod> http://www.testequipmentdepot.com/newequipment/groundresistancetesters.htm
[4:36] <unimatrixoverlod> https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=grounding+issue+speaker+noise
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[4:38] <unimatrixoverlod> pinoob: have you tried a different USB power adapter and cable? Is the USB power 2A?
[4:39] <pinoob> I did think about possible grounding issues, but -- and I say this as someone with no understanding of electrical anything -- I figured since the adapter doesn't have a ground on it, bad grounding should affect it?
[4:39] <pinoob> I have not tried a different adapter, I only have the one. It is 2A
[4:39] <pinoob> shouldn't affect it**
[4:39] <pinoob> negations are important
[4:41] <pinoob> I will try plugging it into my ups to rule out the power outlet/power bar
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[4:42] <unimatrixoverlod> Here some info on 2/3 prong outlets and grounding: "The ground slot and the neutral slot of an outlet are identical. That is, if you go back to the breaker box, you will find that the neutral and ground wires from all of the outlets go to the same place. They all connect to ..." https://electronics.howstuffworks.com/everyday-tech/question110.htm
[4:44] <unimatrixoverlod> i'm not an expert on AC stuff but yes the connection is still grounded and can have grounding issues
[4:50] <unimatrixoverlod> https://www.thespruce.com/testing-receptacles-for-grounding-1152807
[4:50] <pinoob> When plugged in to my ups, it makes the same sound. But my UPS is next to the computer I SSHed into it with -- and every command I run via ssh, the pitch of the whine changes a bit
[4:52] <pinoob> I didn't notice that pattern before because it was in a different room
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[5:01] <unimatrixoverlod> google'ing, "what happens when electronics make audible noises" is kind of interesting...
[5:01] <unimatrixoverlod> https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/36710/what-electronic-component-of-a-computer-produces-sound-noise
[5:02] <pinoob> originally i thought it was our new fridge, installed about the same day i put the pi in, so i read a lot about sounds fridges make too haha
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[5:03] <unimatrixoverlod> lol
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[5:22] <unimatrixoverlod> i know almost nothing about WWAN/3G mini-PCIe/USB type connections under Linux and including the RPi. Anyone have any good websites/info on it?
[5:22] <unimatrixoverlod> *in addition 4G LTE
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[8:20] <localhorse> when i do sudo -i it says "SSH is enabled and the default password for the 'pi' user has not been changed.
[8:20] <localhorse> This is a security risk - please login as the 'pi' user and type 'passwd' to set a new password."
[8:20] <localhorse> but i just DID set a new passwd
[8:20] <localhorse> why is it still showing this?
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[8:30] <cyphase> localhorse, i don't know, but i would try logging out and back in, and then / or restarting
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[10:02] <Nialcen> Hello
[10:04] <Nialcen> Looking for a bit of help : i'm trying to use shell to recognize disc type from external drive. For example identify disc as PS1 disc, or else, this, in order to launch proper emulator automaticaly. Any idea from where to start =) ?
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[15:47] <faLUCE> Hello. I wrote this library https://github.com/paolo-pr/laav which also includes a low latency streamer/player. I would like to do something with it on raspberry, but don't have any idea yet... any suggestion?
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[15:53] <jrp93> faLUCE, you want to do something with the media player part?
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[16:03] <AlbaLupus> hello, I want to make drum kit on raspberry pi using piezo. How to get lowest latency?
[16:04] <AlbaLupus> samples will be loaded into RAM
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[17:28] <fury> so uhh... at what operating temperature is the raspberry pi zero w supposed to fail? ran it at 70°C over the weekend (CPU temp 77°C), 80 yesterday (CPU 88), 85 overnight (CPU 93), and now it's running at 90 ambient, CPU at 96-97. i am afraid i will melt something (SD card? power cable?) before the thing stops running
[17:29] <fury> it's doing some imagemagick and uploading to a server every few seconds, nothing too extravagant
[17:30] <shiftplusone> Your pi is running in 90C ambient?
[17:30] <fury> yup
[17:30] <fury> continuously 70 since last friday, we've been cranking it up ever since
[17:31] <shiftplusone> Well... it turns off all overclocking at 85C... I thought it would've turned itself off by the time it got to 97C.
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[17:32] <fury> yeah, i thought it started throttling at 80 and read somewhere that it "won't allow itself to exceed 85", but i dun exceeded it and it's still going O_o
[17:33] <shiftplusone> just asked and yeah, there's no thermal shutoff
[17:33] <fury> did a wifi speedtest, 4mbits down and 2mbits up from inside the oven (not perfectly shielded, but also not entirely radio transparent either)
[17:33] <shiftplusone> so it will just keep going.
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[17:34] <fury> sounds good. anyone know what the melting temperature is for the typical SD card and the official 2.5a power supply (the end of the cable-- the rest is hanging outside in the cool room temperature air)? :P
[17:34] <shiftplusone> They have been tested in an oven running at close to the melting point of the solder joints, but... that's not really recommended. You're reducing the lifetime of the chip and the heating/cooling cycles may possible cause fractures in capacitors and whatnot.
[17:34] <fury> makes sense
[17:35] <fury> yeah, figured this would shorten the life and/or kill it. just wanted to see how high it could go
[17:36] <fury> it may end up in a product that sits inside a car a lot
[17:36] <fury> and i hear those can get pretty toasty
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[17:38] <shiftplusone> They can indeed. I have been wanting to make a camera for motorbikes and cars, but have been putting it off since humidity, vibrations and temperature aren't really a great environment to run a pi in.
[17:38] <fury> saw this a while back too: https://dride.io - specs include "pi zero w or pi 3" and i was like... O_o that's a thing?
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[17:40] <shiftplusone> Hm? Where is the pi mentioned there?
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[17:40] <fury> in the docs -> getting started page
[17:40] <shiftplusone> Oh, I see they have schematics for a HAT and such
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[17:41] <shiftplusone> interesting that they've chosen to use a pi and keep things open
[17:42] <gordonDrogon> "inside the oven" .. Not a typical Pi environment that. Even I put my Pi's outside my ovens!
[17:42] <fury> yeah. i downloaded and installed the image a while back, downloaded the dride app on my phone, connected to the wifi hotspot generated by the pi, and sure enough, get dashcam videos showing up in the feed in the app on the phone
[17:42] <fury> yeah :P
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[17:43] <gordonDrogon> what are you doing at 90�C in an oven?
[17:44] <fury> trying to see how hot it can take it before it fails. not a scientific test by any measure, and mostly what it'll do is make the electronic parts more likely to fail at random later on no matter what the temperature
[17:44] <gordonDrogon> well - that sort of testing has already been done for you - and you now know the thermal throtting temperatures ..
[17:44] <fury> not sure if i should be surprised it's running in this kind of ambient temp or if that's typical for single board computers
[17:45] <shiftplusone> it's typical
[17:45] <shiftplusone> although some devices may shut themselves down first
[17:45] <shiftplusone> which I thought the pi did, but... nope.
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[17:46] <gordonDrogon> it'll keep limping on :)
[17:47] <fury> if i were to make a theoretical product that uses this, would the best idea be to add my own shutdown at 85 CPU temp? is there a way to put the pi to "sleep" to limit damage, or would i need something else controlling USB power basically
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[17:50] <fury> i can see the connection i'm establishing to upload every few seconds is taking longer than 5 seconds in some cases now, i think that might be a "result". probably should cool it down :P
[17:50] <shiftplusone> put one of those temperature differential voltage generator things that I forget the name of on it. It will act as a heatsink, produce drinking water and produce electricity which you can use to power the pi and to split the water for hydrogen to power the car. Easy.
[17:50] <fury> yes :D
[17:50] * shiftplusone should start a kickstarter
[17:51] <fury> do eet
[17:51] <gordonDrogon> you'd need to have some external shutdown system - although it could be software triggered.
[17:51] <gordonDrogon> peltier effect unit ...
[17:51] <gordonDrogon> they're not that efficient!
[17:51] <shiftplusone> that's the one
[17:51] <gordonDrogon> and you need a cold side - ideally > 35�C temp. differential.
[17:51] <shiftplusone> We'll just use a bigger one then.
[17:51] <fury> scotty, we need moar power
[17:51] <gordonDrogon> I've done some experiments recently with them ...
[17:52] <shiftplusone> (I wasn't being serious, Gordon)
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[17:52] <gordonDrogon> nothing to do with Pi's - all to do with my bakery though.
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[18:24] <BurtyB> gordonDrogon, are you making a warm bread lamp (similar to https://www.elektor.com/peltier-lamp-1 ) ? ;)
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[18:39] <faLUCE> [15:53] <jrp93> faLUCE, you want to do something with the media player part? ----> jrp93: sorry for the late answer: I don't know.. I can compile both on raspberry
[18:39] <faLUCE> (I wrote this library https://github.com/paolo-pr/laav which also includes a low latency streamer/player. I would like to do something with it on raspberry, but don't have any idea yet... any suggestion?)
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[18:43] <jrp93> faLUCE, how many more hours are you looking to spend? :)
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[18:43] <faLUCE> jrp93: ?
[18:43] <faLUCE> :-)
[18:43] <faLUCE> jrp93: it depends on how interesting is the idea
[18:45] <jrp93> what i'd pay good money for is a lightweight plex alternative
[18:45] <jrp93> not sure how feasible that'd be in C++ though
[18:46] <faLUCE> jrp93: what does it have to do with low latency?
[18:46] <jrp93> what does video playback have to do with low latency?
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[18:47] <faLUCE> jrp93: I don't understand what you mean
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[19:15] <gordonDrogon> BurtyB, no - trying to make a retarder/proofer if you want to know ...
[19:15] <gordonDrogon> BurtyB, it seems that 2 x 80w units isn't enough to cool a small box full of dough sufficiently to do a proper retard action on it.
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[19:55] <johnjay> i'm trying to get a printer working on a raspbery pi
[19:55] <johnjay> i installed print-task-server and cups but so far I can't get anything to work
[19:55] <johnjay> T_T
[19:55] <GenteelBen> ._.
[19:55] <GenteelBen> u rite nao --> x_x
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[19:57] <johnjay> I don't see the printer in lsusb, is that bad?
[19:57] <GenteelBen> I wish I knew, johnjay.
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[20:20] <faLUCE> do you know if Is it possible to encode with x264, live, 25fps, 640x480 on raspberry?
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[20:25] <red9> RPi supposedly has mpeg4 encoding hardware builtin. Even mpeg2 BUT only with a specific license.
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[20:36] <faLUCE> red9: this doesn't answer to my question
[20:38] * stiv bets no. try encoding a short clip and see how long it takes. Science!
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[20:39] <faLUCE> stiv: try encoding a short clip and see how long it takes. <--- what a stupid answer
[20:40] <stiv> ok. i'll play. why?
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[20:41] <faLUCE> stiv: because I could not have a RPI right now. Therefore I asked
[20:41] <stiv> that doesn't change anything
[20:41] <faLUCE> stiv: it changes. because I have to decide if to buy one depending on the answer
[20:41] <faLUCE> please stop saying stupid things
[20:41] <stiv> if it takes 5 mins to encode a 1 min clip, you are not going to get realtime
[20:42] <faLUCE> stiv: activate your brain before, then answer
[20:42] <stiv> tsk. now if you were pleasant, you could ask some pi-enabled person to do the experiment for you
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[20:46] <H4ndy> faLUCE: regarding specs the Pi can do 1920x1080 at H264 level 4.1 in real time, no idea about the quality tho, I've tried it myself
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[20:46] <H4ndy> *I've never
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[20:48] <H4ndy> Level 4.1 is 1280x720@60 or 2048x1024@30. Apparently you can push it to LEvel 4.2 with overclocking which can do 1920x1080@60
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[21:17] <faLUCE> thanks H4ndy, but I was interested in x264 encoding
[21:17] <faLUCE> I think you mean HW H264, right?
[21:17] <H4ndy> x264 will perform very poorly
[21:18] <faLUCE> but I'm interested in that
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[21:18] <faLUCE> I created a low latency library which uses x264
[21:18] <faLUCE> I don't think RPI's HW H264 is low latency
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[21:23] <H4ndy> if you have a command line and an example clip I can try to run it
[21:24] <aliasunknown> has there been any news mining bots mining crypto?
[21:24] <aliasunknown> weve found a crontab entry that downloads an XMR miner
[21:24] <aliasunknown> and places a backdoor as root
[21:24] <aliasunknown> ssh
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[21:26] <faLUCE> H4ndy: it's not a trivial test, believe me
[21:26] <faLUCE> then I asked, hoping that someone already did some experience with x264 on RPI
[21:26] <faLUCE> thanks anyway
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[21:27] <H4ndy> running x264 is no rocket scient and using the zerolatency switch
[21:27] <aliasunknown> it even creates a new bootloader
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[21:28] <faLUCE> H4ndy: it's not trivial, because you have to set many params
[21:28] <faLUCE> but the most difficult part is seeing if it's doing it realtime
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[21:29] <H4ndy> you take a 1min clip and transcode it
[21:29] <H4ndy> then you use a high-end stopwatch
[21:29] <H4ndy> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[21:30] <faLUCE> H4ndy: sorry, I don't have time to do tests.... then I wondered if someone already did them, in the past
[21:30] <ali1234> it depends on your definition of low latency
[21:30] <ali1234> its probably not quite good enough for video conferencing
[21:31] <ali1234> but its close
[21:31] <H4ndy> dude just provide a x264 command line and a test takes like 10min
[21:31] <faLUCE> H4ndy: I don't use x264, I use libx264
[21:31] <H4ndy> ...
[21:31] <faLUCE> never used x264 CLI
[21:31] <ali1234> you can't just time how long it takes. that isn't what latency means
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[21:32] <faLUCE> ali1234: ??
[21:32] <H4ndy> then just shell out 35 bucks and buy one yourself if you do not want to move an inch
[21:32] <faLUCE> that was not my question ali1234
[21:32] <localhorse> how can i program detect at runtime if it's running on a rpi instead of other linux?
[21:32] <ali1234> well what was it then?
[21:32] <localhorse> or more specifically, running on arm
[21:32] <faLUCE> [23:26] <faLUCE> Hello. I wrote this library https://github.com/paolo-pr/laav which also includes a low latency streamer/player. I would like to do something with it on raspberry, but don't have any idea yet... any suggestion?
[21:32] <faLUCE> ali1234: ^
[21:33] <ali1234> that's not really a question?
[21:33] <H__> localhorse: why not grep for ARM in /proc/cpuinfo ?
[21:33] * stiv guesses: localhorse /proc/cpuinfo ?
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[21:56] <{HD}> Hey, I am trying to calculate what wire I should use for my LED project. I am using a string of indexable RGB LEDs I have 100 of them at 20ma each. They are rated for 5v what wire size should I use?
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[21:57] <{HD}> I tired to use a wire size calculator but the results were 1AWG which is ridiculous
[21:58] <nats`> 100 in serie or parallel ?
[21:58] <nats`> even in parallel you don't need a big wire it's only 2A
[21:59] <nats`> if you want to be safe you take some 1.5mm²
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[22:00] <Geminizer> Hello everyone. Can someone recommend a super durable power cord / power supply solution for when the pi itself is mounted to a device which is always in aggressive motion?
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[22:03] <kerio> duct tape
[22:04] <Geminizer> thanks :)
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[22:06] <{HD}> nats`: whats that in awg?
[22:08] <H4ndy> about AWG 15
[22:09] <H4ndy> that's 1.65 mm²
[22:10] <{HD}> Hum pretty thick. I wonder if I should use 2 power supplies and just add power at the 1/2 way point.
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[22:19] <kerio> t h i c c
[22:21] <fugitive> hello folks, anyone can help me with kernel building? i am experiencing weird error while trying to install my modules.. never had this issue before.. if so, i'll post an output
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[22:23] <Inonoob> Hello everyone
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[22:30] <aliasunknown> I have PCB that i use a cable to connect to the pi. The PCB also connects a serial gprs modem.
[22:30] <aliasunknown> the pi talks to the gprs modem via the pcb
[22:30] <aliasunknown> with a pi 2 i have no problems
[22:31] <aliasunknown> or pi 3
[22:31] <aliasunknown> but if i use a pi zero it burns up
[22:31] <aliasunknown> the magic smoke appears
[22:31] <aliasunknown> is there some the pi zero doesnt have in terms of "protections"
[22:32] <aliasunknown> its really confusing
[22:32] <aliasunknown> any ideas would be appriciated
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[22:34] <Inonoob> There is no kind of issue like 5v from pcb to 3.3v to the pi ?
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[22:35] <aliasunknown> im not sure
[22:35] <aliasunknown> but i dont think so
[22:35] <aliasunknown> the other pi 2 can handle it
[22:36] <aliasunknown> the modem is powered by 5v
[22:36] <aliasunknown> im not sure about the uart voltage
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[22:37] <Inonoob> what kind of pcb gprs modem is it ?
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[22:42] <aliasunknown> sim900 breakout board
[22:42] <Inonoob> back sorry have switch irc client
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[22:42] <aliasunknown> sim900 breakout board
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[22:43] <Inonoob> How many pi zeros you have already fried ?
[22:44] <Inonoob> have you check all you solderings on the RPI zero on the gpio
[22:44] <aliasunknown> too many
[22:45] <aliasunknown> like 4
[22:45] <aliasunknown> i have verified the pcb
[22:45] <Inonoob> the 5v for the pcb where are they coming from ?
[22:45] <aliasunknown> we made changes in terms of trace length to avoid any issues
[22:45] <Inonoob> from the PI ?
[22:45] <aliasunknown> no
[22:46] <aliasunknown> from 5A source
[22:46] <aliasunknown> a 12v DC-DC converter
[22:46] <aliasunknown> its a CPT
[22:46] <aliasunknown> powers the pi and the modem
[22:47] <aliasunknown> if the modem is on "idle" as like with out a sim card everything is fine
[22:47] <aliasunknown> when the sim card is inserted and i start the ppp connection
[22:47] <aliasunknown> magic smoke from the pi zero
[22:47] <aliasunknown> pi 2 not an issue
[22:48] <mfa298> aliasunknown: most of the gpio on all the Pis is only tolerant of 3v3, so if the modem uses 5v that could cause issues on any model Pi (and serial tends to idle with a logic high signal)
[22:49] <Inonoob> you might need a logic level converter 3.3v/5V
[22:50] <Inonoob> I use this to connect RPI with Arduino and in order to not fry the RPi i need that little tool
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[22:50] <aliasunknown> do you have any recomendations? surface mount?
[22:50] <aliasunknown> would optocouplers work too?
[22:50] <Inonoob> they exist finished made from china
[22:50] <Inonoob> cheap
[22:51] <aliasunknown> I have an model model A
[22:51] <aliasunknown> im afraid its gonna burn too
[22:51] <aliasunknown> and im ordering some a+
[22:52] <Inonoob> I use this little guy https://www.amazon.de/XCSOURCE%C2%AE-Logisches-Konverter-Bi-Direktional-TE291/dp/B0148BLZGE/ref=pd_bxgy_147_img_3?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=B6WJBP3E27RMDM8HKY1Q
[22:52] <aliasunknown> i found some
[22:52] <aliasunknown> thanks
[22:52] <aliasunknown> i always end up finding lame china imports
[22:52] <Inonoob> they are very tiny but saves you the headicks for killing your pi
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[22:53] <Inonoob> on amazon you might get it in prime. it will cost a little more but you will get it faster than getting it from China
[22:53] <aliasunknown> they just connect in series with the TX RX wires
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[22:53] <Inonoob> it just a passthrow but as mention before they reduce the possbile 5v to 3.3v
[22:54] <_DimVar_> hello guys, any idea on how to install PiFace Digital 2 on Raspberry Pi 2 Model B?
[22:54] <aliasunknown> thanks
[22:54] <aliasunknown> i think that might be it
[22:55] <Inonoob> you are welcome
[22:55] <aliasunknown> its odd that it only burns out when the gprs draws current
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[22:55] <Inonoob> you may know how many ?
[22:55] <aliasunknown> we contemplated that maybe the DC DC converter was lame but either way it should be able to power everything
[22:56] <Inonoob> on may logic convert it is marked not more than 150 mA
[22:56] <aliasunknown> your link was for i2c
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[22:56] <Inonoob> yeah but you don't know whats comming out of the
[22:56] <aliasunknown> will that work ok with rs232=
[22:56] <Inonoob> oups
[22:56] <aliasunknown> ?
[22:56] <Inonoob> i will check
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[22:57] <aliasunknown> thanks. really a life saver
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[22:57] <Inonoob> it also works with serial
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[22:57] <Inonoob> actualy its only reducing the voltage of the output
[22:58] <Inonoob> here is a link which might helps you
[22:58] <Inonoob> https://www.pololu.com/product/2595
[22:58] <Inonoob> like I said I'm used to use this little device to connect the Arduino with the RPI
[22:58] <Inonoob> hey _DimVar_ what kind of issue do you have with your PiFace
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[22:59] <r3> RS232 levels are too high for a Pi, you know right? You need to take it down to ~5V TTL. Need one of these: https://www.sparkfun.com/products/11189
[23:00] <aliasunknown> sorta
[23:00] <aliasunknown> learning as we go
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[23:01] <aliasunknown> we should have known
[23:01] <aliasunknown> ive read about this before
[23:01] <Inonoob> cost you 4 pi's :)
[23:01] <aliasunknown> but sometimes we get overwhelmed and miss the obvious
[23:01] <aliasunknown> yea $$
[23:01] <aliasunknown> lol
[23:02] <r3> If you've a USB<-->RS232 interface, like one of these: http://a.co/17jxhaF ... to talk to the Pi, that outputs voltages too high and won't work. Conversely, the Pi outputs 5V TTL and won't be picked up by that adapter. I use that MAX3232 breakout between them and works like a charm.
[23:02] <aliasunknown> weve researched that chip
[23:03] <aliasunknown> but we are in between making our own thru hole and surface mount boards
[23:03] <aliasunknown> i think its probably cheap enough probably better to start ordering online... anyway
[23:03] <r3> if you're just trying to go to 3.3V from 5V, I think I've just used a resistor voltage divider.
[23:03] <Inonoob> I can comfirm that using a USB to RS232 is in some case better and more stable as I had to learn for the adafruit recipe printer
[23:03] <aliasunknown> ill order a break out board for now
[23:03] <aliasunknown> but in the end we need to have this on our pcb
[23:04] <r3> well the MAX3232 chip is universal, I've seen it on lots of stuff
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[23:04] <aliasunknown> problem we have with usb is the connection its self
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[23:04] <aliasunknown> we are making remote data loggers in really nasty conditions
[23:04] <aliasunknown> sometimes
[23:04] <mfa298> aliasunknown: the amazon device Inonoob linked to above should probably with most interfaces (if it's using the circuit I tihnk it is), the max3232 R3 linked to might only do for serial, but would probably handle any serial voltage swings (which could be up to +/- 15v)
[23:05] <aliasunknown> mfa298: thanks
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[23:05] <aliasunknown> ill take that into consideration
[23:05] <r3> aye, can confirm that MAX3232 handles > ~12V as I've scoped it in and then out of that breakout board
[23:06] <mfa298> that amazon device is probably using a fairly simple circuit with a mosfet and two resistors per line which you can probably make your self (if you're doing your own PCB)
[23:06] <aliasunknown> unless there is some magic connector that makes the usb connection on the pi "rugged"
[23:06] <r3> hahahaha
[23:06] <r3> rugged.
[23:07] <aliasunknown> we feel better making a nice firm connector on the GPIO
[23:07] <aliasunknown> relativelay speaking
[23:07] <aliasunknown> everything is enclosed in a IP65 box
[23:07] <aliasunknown> which is then also enclosed in another IP65 box
[23:07] <Inonoob> nice nasty env. hope not mining. You would have a lot of fun with ATEX certification
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[23:08] <r3> so that sparkfun board can be confusing, so Pi would connect to "T1IN" on the "LOGIC" side, and then RS232 to "T1OUT" on the "RS-232" side. follow that reverse for RS232 to Pi. (R1IN to R1OUT, IIRC)
[23:08] <aliasunknown> oh no... not that rugged lol
[23:08] <aliasunknown> yea and need to harden the system
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[23:09] <afen> how about milspec connectors?
[23:09] <afen> they're pretty rugged
[23:10] <r3> speaking of rugged, it looks like I am getting about 2years 4months on a MicroSD card (SanDisk) in a Pi that has been on 24/7. They are 8GB Class 4 (IIRC) and are starting to show media errors. Replacing them with 8GB Class 10 as needed in the PiHerd here.
[23:10] <Inonoob> So maybe some of you have an answer for my question. I finshed my photobooth project with python but now I'm kind of stuck the picture a stored and I want the users to acces it by connecting to the Raspberry pi which is an Wifi acces point. I'm using Piwigo as galerie software. My question: How can I automat the database update of that software?
[23:11] <Inonoob> Gggg r3 for real 2 years Oo.
[23:12] <r3> this in a Pi that didn't have much use other than some minor data logging, certainly no heavy use in the filesystem, using vanilla raspbian since Wheezy.
[23:13] <r3> Inonoob: I would shoot the photo over to a different system running apache
[23:13] <aliasunknown> r3: is ur logger battery powered?
[23:13] <r3> aliasunknown: no, nice wallwart into a fair UPS
[23:14] <aliasunknown> what about using a ram disk for "temp" storage?
[23:14] <Inonoob> why would you have a second system ?
[23:14] <aliasunknown> reduce the amounts of IO to the sd cards
[23:14] <aliasunknown> depends on what your storing i guess
[23:14] <Inonoob> maybe using usbdisk ?
[23:15] <r3> Inonoob: for the users. I would much rather have a system doing the "work" and another system secured down for "users" ... I'm running a small apache site on a Pi3 with no issues.
[23:15] <aliasunknown> but wont a usb disk have the same issue eventually?
[23:15] <r3> yes
[23:15] <Inonoob> you ask how to reduce the writing on the card.
[23:16] <Inonoob> you might be right so a second pi in that box
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[23:16] <r3> external HD or SSD (better than SD cards) would be heartier. But, also, sure, a ramdisk, but the Pi has limited memory. So you might be better off looking at something beefier, like from PCEngines.
[23:17] <Inonoob> what you could do is write to memory and from time to time shift it to the external drive
[23:17] <r3> I'm running one of their apu2c4 boards as an evaluation and I REALLY REALLY like it. But this isn't the place to suggest some solution other than Rpi! ;)
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[23:19] <Inonoob> yeah but most of the time with this kind of different board the community is kind of small or you have to do all by hand sort of
[23:19] <Inonoob> What about the banana pi for the sata connection
[23:20] <Inonoob> so you could connect a HDD
[23:20] <Inonoob> os SDD
[23:20] <_DimVar_> @Inonoob
[23:20] <_DimVar_> E: Unable to locate package python3-pifacedigitalio
[23:20] <_DimVar_> E: Unable to locate package python-pifacedigitalio
[23:20] <_DimVar_> whenever to try to sudo apt-get install python3-pifacedigitalio python-pifacedigitalio
[23:20] <r3> well, I dunno, the PCEngines board is running vanilla Debian, so there's very little you couldn't do with it.
[23:20] <_DimVar_> whenever I try to *
[23:21] <r3> _DimVar_: can you do an apt-get update?
[23:22] <_DimVar_> I did it more than once, it didnt help :|
[23:22] <r3> those look like the correct package names. What version of raspbian are you using?
[23:22] <Inonoob> the question is more if you have inet connection for the py
[23:22] <r3> aye, can you ping something like 8.8.8.8 ?
[23:23] <r3> well, if update completed OK, you would have internet
[23:23] <aliasunknown> In our most recent project our cliente wanted a 1 second sample rate data logger
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[23:23] <aliasunknown> that when connected to the internet sent the data in real time to their server
[23:23] <_DimVar_> @r3 Linux raspberrypi 4.9.41-v7+ #1023 SMP Tue Aug 8 16:00:15 BST 2017 armv7l GNU/Linux
[23:24] <Inonoob> yeah I worked on something similar in the mining business.
[23:24] <aliasunknown> but if the logger was in the woods somewhere with random internet then it stores the data and sends it later
[23:24] <aliasunknown> i stored the data samples in a redis database
[23:24] <Inonoob> We stored the stuff on the ram and the wrote it to the usb disk
[23:24] <aliasunknown> this way if i have internet they only stay in ram
[23:24] <aliasunknown> if i dont have internet they will be written to sd card
[23:24] <aliasunknown> this way in case of power failure the data is not lost
[23:25] <Inonoob> @_DimVar_ did the ping worked well.
[23:25] <aliasunknown> so far as long as i have internet i can stream data very fast with almost no IO
[23:25] <Inonoob> wait I will try it on my raspberry pi
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[23:26] <Inonoob> try this on please
[23:26] <Inonoob> sudo apt-get install python{,3}-pifacedigitalio
[23:26] <_DimVar_> @Inonoob yes it worked without any problems
[23:26] <Inonoob> so it worked now ?
[23:26] <_DimVar_> still the same problem :|
[23:26] <Inonoob> mhh
[23:26] <Inonoob> strange. My pi can find it
[23:27] <Inonoob> I'm checking the apt list
[23:27] <GenteelBen> Evening, my fellow raspists.
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[23:28] <Inonoob> Hello @GenteelBen
[23:29] <Inonoob> deb http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/ jessie main contrib non-free rpi
[23:30] <Inonoob> you know where to check it ?
[23:30] <GenteelBen> Inonoob, are you in college?
[23:30] <Inonoob> cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:30] <GenteelBen> If so, you'd be a college raspist.
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[23:31] <GenteelBen> Spent time in prison? Prison raspist.
[23:31] <GenteelBen> Trying to woo the love of your life with a single-board computer? Date rapist.
[23:31] <GenteelBen> *raspist
[23:31] <GenteelBen> That was a Freudian slip.
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[23:32] <aliasunknown> any ideas on where to order decent prototype PCBs in europe?
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[23:32] <_DimVar_> Inonoob not really, I'm new to the scene of Raspberry Pi
[23:33] <aliasunknown> i dont really know who to trust online...
[23:33] <aliasunknown> so im gonna ask yall
[23:33] <_DimVar_> @Inonoob
[23:33] <Inonoob> oki check you /etc/apt/srouces.list
[23:34] <r3> that is: /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:34] <Inonoob> found it from hackaday
[23:34] <Inonoob> https://oshpark.com/
[23:34] <Inonoob> might check it out
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[23:35] <r3> what version is 4.9.41-v7+ ? stretch?
[23:35] <Inonoob> what does it say _DimVar_
[23:36] <r3> don't paste in here, use pastebin or pastee.ee
[23:36] <r3> er, https://paste.ee/
[23:36] <_DimVar_> @Inonoob It says: deb http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/ stretch main contrib non-free rpi
[23:36] <_DimVar_> # Uncomment line below then 'apt-get update' to enable 'apt-get source'
[23:36] <_DimVar_> #deb-src http://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian/ stretch main contrib non-free rpi
[23:36] <Inonoob> too late
[23:36] <Inonoob> :)
[23:36] <_DimVar_> sorry for that r3
[23:36] <r3> paste the whole thing elsewhere, I dunno what I am looking at in here
[23:37] <r3> and is this vanilla, out of the box, or did you fiddle with it?
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[23:37] <Inonoob> ahhh, I got the same issue as you do. So from what I understand the packages is not available for stretch
[23:37] <_DimVar_> pastebin
[23:37] <r3> (nothing wrong if you fiddled with it, that's what these are for, I didn't mean for that to sound judgemental)
[23:38] <Inonoob> got the same as you do
[23:38] <_DimVar_> https://pastebin.com/6M7juZpC
[23:39] <r3> so you might be able to add a source for that package that points to a jessie repo
[23:40] <r3> I wouldn't, but if you're desperate, that's an option, also you could get it from source and install it that way, also not ideal.
[23:40] <_DimVar_> @Inonoob the same as mine?
[23:40] <Inonoob> yepp. So long story short = Available for jessie repo but not for Strech Repo
[23:42] <_DimVar_> so is there a quick solution to my problem? :p
[23:42] <r3> you may want to read this: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/107689/how-to-install-a-single-jessie-package-on-wheezy ... it's a similar situation and silimar solution
[23:42] <r3> no, not quick.
[23:43] <Inonoob> there is also a bug issue mention on the github website : https://github.com/piface/pifacedigitalio/issues/35
[23:43] <Inonoob> the solution seems to use pip install instead of apt-get install
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[23:44] <Inonoob> what version opf python you wanna use ?
[23:44] <r3> you maybe could get it from https://github.com/piface/pifacedigitalio/ ... but it looks like Inonoob has an idea so Imma gonna let him work it
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[23:45] <Inonoob> @_DimVar_ still here ?
[23:45] <_DimVar_> yes
[23:45] <Inonoob> so which version of python you are going to work with ?
[23:46] <_DimVar_> 3
[23:46] <Inonoob> oki
[23:46] <Inonoob> you need to use the following commands
[23:46] <Inonoob> sudo pip3 install pifacecommon
[23:46] <Inonoob> sudo pip3 install pifacedigitalio
[23:46] <Inonoob> you will install all the stuff with the use of pip
[23:46] <_DimVar_> I did let me see if it works :p
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[23:47] <_DimVar_> they were successfully installed
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[23:47] <_DimVar_> but do not know if they will work
[23:47] <Inonoob> Lol
[23:47] <Inonoob> wait
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[23:48] <Inonoob> do the following
[23:48] <Inonoob> nano blink.py
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[23:48] <Inonoob> then you piut this in https://pastebin.com/Edsq9JkV
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[23:49] <Inonoob> then you ctrl+x and y
[23:49] <Inonoob> then you type in python blink.py
[23:49] <Inonoob> it should toogle the led number 7 on the board
[23:50] <Inonoob> if it is not working it may require the sudo python blink.py command due to the acces of the GPIO
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[23:50] <Inonoob> I knwo in strech this should work without but sometime it doesn't
[23:50] <Inonoob> @_DimVar_ still there ?
[23:51] <Inonoob> I think you should use python3
[23:51] <Inonoob> as you are using python3
[23:52] <_DimVar_> Yes I'm here
[23:52] <_DimVar_> It didn't work :|
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[23:52] <Inonoob> have you used python3 or python
[23:53] <_DimVar_> https://pastebin.com/JQUh70qK
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[23:53] <_DimVar_> python
[23:53] <_DimVar_> let me try python3
[23:53] <Inonoob> oki
[23:53] <Inonoob> lets do differently
[23:53] <_DimVar_> still nothing :|
[23:53] <_DimVar_> SyntaxError: invalid character in identifier
[23:54] <Inonoob> so do the following : git clone https://github.com/piface/pifacedigitalio.git
[23:54] <Inonoob> so we will get the repo of this thing
[23:54] <r3> (that sounds like a tab rather than spaces?)
[23:54] <Inonoob> yep
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[23:54] <Inonoob> but lets do it with the original form the github repo
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[23:54] <Inonoob> so we can rule out the mistaks
[23:54] <_DimVar_> i did the clone
[23:54] <Inonoob> perfect
[23:55] <Inonoob> now go the example folder of the cloned folder
[23:55] <Inonoob> there should be a folder examples
[23:55] <Inonoob> and then try the following command
[23:55] <Inonoob> python3 blink.py
[23:57] <Inonoob> is led 7 blinking ?
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[23:58] <_DimVar_> ls
[23:58] <Inonoob> wrong terminal :)
[23:58] <_DimVar_> hahahaha
[23:58] <r3> happens all the time.
[23:58] <Inonoob> :) nice one
[23:59] <Inonoob> who's gonna be on 34c3 ?
[23:59] <_DimVar_> It works :)
[23:59] <Inonoob> Bäämmmm
[23:59] <r3> WOOHOO
[23:59] <r3> Inonoob++
[23:59] <Inonoob> ty guys

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