#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2017-11-30

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[0:03] <Hitechcg> That problem sounds weird, though - the kernel must be getting entropy from something hardware-related that's different between the Pi 3 and Compute Module 3
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[0:32] <ali1234> jero: the entropy comes from lots of hardware devices
[0:33] <ali1234> keyboard and mouse and ethernet connection can both generate entropy
[0:33] <ali1234> you should see the rng init faster if you start pressing keys on the keyboard for example
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[0:34] <ali1234> entropy is taken from the timing of keypresses, or packets arriving
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[0:34] <ali1234> do you have all the same hardware devices connected to the compute module as to the pi 3?
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[2:57] <Technicus> :)
[2:58] <Technicus> ali1234, I managed to successfully cross compile the kernel.
[2:58] <Technicus> !!!!
[2:58] <ali1234> okay
[2:58] <Technicus> That was kind of fun.
[2:58] <Technicus> I did not install it though.
[2:58] <Technicus> I'll mess with it more tomorrow.
[2:59] <ali1234> if you can get the device tree blob working, you can submit this to the rpi kernel, they'll probably accept it
[2:59] <ali1234> the accepted mine for i2c_gpio
[2:59] <ali1234> and now it's used on at least one hat :)
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[3:09] <Technicus> ali1234, what does that mean?
[3:09] <ali1234> it means you can send your changes to rpi foundation and they might put it in raspbian for everyone else to use
[3:10] <Technicus> I'm a little dumb about these sorts of things.
[3:10] <Technicus> What did I actually do?
[3:10] <Technicus> I still don't quite understand device tree blobs.
[3:10] <ali1234> nothing yet
[3:10] <ali1234> you have to make it work first
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[4:02] <SynfulAck> Can anyone tell me if /etc/dhcpd.conf file exists?
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[4:14] <SynfulAck> shit everything has changed with NetworkManager
[4:15] <SynfulAck> Does raspbian even use NetworkManager?
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[4:21] <[Saint]> Well...it's /there/.
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[4:21] <[Saint]> Pretty sure everything is dhcpcd now.
[4:21] <SynfulAck> NM is in raspbian?
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[5:08] <Hitechcg> SynfulAck: no, at least not by default
[5:08] <Hitechcg> it's probably in the repos for people who want to manually install it though so
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[6:35] <irc_smirk> hello everyone! happy pi day!
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[6:36] <irc_smirk> question
[6:37] <irc_smirk> i recently got this case
[6:37] <irc_smirk> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0756DD3M7
[6:37] <irc_smirk> it has dual fans and plugs into the gpio for power
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[6:37] <irc_smirk> it works okay but it is drawing power away from the pi. i need everything i can get for the cpu
[6:37] <irc_smirk> how would i power that fan externally?
[6:38] <irc_smirk> preferablly a solution that can handle multiple fans so i can stack these up
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[6:46] <Zardoz> irc_smirk: I have the same fans, they really dont take that much power... but you just need to have a 5V low amps like 500mA would work fine. do maybe a hacked up usb cable tapped off a nother usb power supply.
[6:47] <Zardoz> and jusat power then off that
[6:47] <irc_smirk> what is the plug called?
[6:47] <stiv> buy a good power supply for the pi and use your cheap phone charger to run the fans
[6:47] <Zardoz> USB
[6:48] <irc_smirk> i have a great power supply. at least i think
[6:48] <irc_smirk> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B017JT6846
[6:49] <Zardoz> https://i.stack.imgur.com/83oKl.png
[6:49] <irc_smirk> the plug from the fan that goes into the gpu. what is that called. maybe i can find one of those to usb and plug it into the power supply
[6:49] <Zardoz> just use red and black for power
[6:49] <irc_smirk> are you serious
[6:49] <Zardoz> yup
[6:50] <stiv> the other usb lines are for data. you don't care about those
[6:50] <irc_smirk> you want me to strip a usb wire, and put the raw wires into the fans?
[6:50] <Zardoz> yes. dont need data
[6:50] <stiv> a little solder would be nice
[6:51] <irc_smirk> how can i know it wont over power it and burnt it out
[6:51] <Zardoz> what do you think you are using now?
[6:51] <stiv> because the fans are (likely) 5 volts and the usb line is 5 volts
[6:51] <Zardoz> you are using USB power of the GPIO
[6:51] <irc_smirk> wait so how is the pi getting 5 volt then
[6:52] <Zardoz> yup
[6:52] <Zardoz> off the USB
[6:52] <irc_smirk> right. so how does it then send it off to the fans
[6:52] <Zardoz> the GPIO pins are off that same power bus
[6:52] <Zardoz> the 2 that it uses
[6:53] <irc_smirk> yeah i knda undestand that
[6:53] <irc_smirk> but does that mean you can daisy chain pis?
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[6:53] <irc_smirk> from gpio to micro to gpio to micro
[6:53] <Zardoz> https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi_laL1zeXXAhUFzoMKHRPvA3cQjRwIBw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk%2F2012%2F06%2Fsimple-guide-to-the-rpi-gpio-header-and-pins%2F&psig=AOvVaw1NX9THvr4WMBoPgDV2aRMV&ust=1512107599950044
[6:53] <Zardoz> look at pins 4 and 6
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[6:54] <Zardoz> sorry for the long link
[6:54] <irc_smirk> yeah those are the ones the fan fits into
[6:54] <Zardoz> yes indeed
[6:55] <irc_smirk> so its like i thought, the fans are draining power from the main microusb input
[6:55] <Zardoz> correct
[6:55] <irc_smirk> ok so my quesiton is how will the fan stop rom getting too much power from the usb directly
[6:55] <Zardoz> but it take very liitle to run them fans they are tiny
[6:55] <[Saint]> those are just headers to the 3.3/5V and GND busses direct, yes.
[6:55] <[Saint]> the amount required to run the kind of fan that's not overkill on a pi is negligible.
[6:56] <[Saint]> Mind you, any fan on a pi is kinda silly.
[6:56] <[Saint]> Lets be honest.
[6:56] <Zardoz> [Saint]: not for me lol, and hi
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[6:56] <irc_smirk> i think i need this plug then
[6:57] <irc_smirk> https://www.amazon.com/Adapter-designed-motherboard-external-connector/dp/B000V6WD8A/ref=pd_sim_147_3?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B000V6WD8A&pd_rd_r=ZR30EVXD25MXNFK637JD&pd_rd_w=lqcVV&pd_rd_wg=WC21N&psc=1&refRID=ZR30EVXD25MXNFK637JD
[6:57] <irc_smirk> yeah it draws too much
[6:57] <Zardoz> you can use that same idea
[6:57] <irc_smirk> dont laugh im mining with it
[6:57] <nattyrice> why is my raspberry pi 2 stuck on this rainbow square?
[6:57] <Zardoz> nattyrice: bad load?
[6:57] <nattyrice> i am trying to set up archlinuxarm following this https://archlinuxarm.org/platforms/armv6/raspberry-pi
[6:58] <nattyrice> i've tried it several times
[6:58] <Zardoz> nattyrice: might be bad sd card or even a power issue
[6:58] <irc_smirk> i guess i can try to make one. need to get a solder
[6:59] <nattyrice> i had raspbian working on it not an hour before.. i've tried two different SD cards
[6:59] <irc_smirk> oh my. i just had a revelation
[6:59] <irc_smirk> nwo i know why they call them male and femail
[6:59] <Zardoz> lol
[6:59] <irc_smirk> its all about anatomy isnt it
[6:59] <Zardoz> yes, lmao sorry
[7:00] <irc_smirk> cheeky nerds
[7:00] <Zardoz> ----- O
[7:00] <stiv> plugs and sockets, it's what makes the world go around
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[7:00] <Zardoz> stiv: LMAO
[7:00] <nattyrice> i've followed that guide and set it up twice so far, with both my raspbian install and using my archlinux vm
[7:00] <Zardoz> I am sorry but that just made my evening,.
[7:01] <irc_smirk> i think im better off just buying a stand alone fan and point at the darn thing
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[7:02] <Zardoz> https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-Breeze-Mobile-Flexible-Adjustable/dp/B003XN24GY/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1512021756&sr=8-4&keywords=USB+fan
[7:03] <Zardoz> I have one of these works well
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[7:03] <Zardoz> and it's bendy
[7:03] <irc_smirk> yeah i just dont kow if that fan will be strong enough
[7:03] <Zardoz> it is
[7:03] <irc_smirk> just from usb?
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[7:04] <irc_smirk> ideally id like to get a fan, and strap on a bunch of pis and turn it on
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[7:04] <irc_smirk> then i can overclock them and have no fears
[7:05] <irc_smirk> weird that fan you linked has no guard
[7:05] <Zardoz> then get a AC box fan... lol
[7:05] <Zardoz> nope
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[7:06] <Zardoz> https://www.amazon.com/Yoosion-Cooling-Router-Computer-Watertank/dp/B01KTG45GY/ref=sr_1_38?ie=UTF8&qid=1512021898&sr=8-38&keywords=USB%2Bfan&th=1
[7:06] <Zardoz> here is an 80mm pc fan wired for USB with guards
[7:06] <Zardoz> lots of options
[7:07] <nattyrice> Zardoz: give all i've tried, do you have any other suggestions?
[7:07] <nattyrice> given*
[7:07] <Zardoz> nattyrice: do you have a nother sd card?
[7:08] <Zardoz> also what pi do you have and power supply?
[7:08] <nattyrice> Zardoz: like i've said above, i've tried two already.. no others to spare
[7:08] <nattyrice> and i had raspbian working on one of them already
[7:11] <Zardoz> irc_smirk: here is my overclocked pi with the same HSF setup https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LXej_s0TdJjU66mYzL2PPKSPJpZ7PeFwfA/view
[7:12] <irc_smirk> nice. you have a cooler case
[7:12] <Zardoz> love that case.
[7:12] <nattyrice> Zardoz: sorry didn't see that question. Pi 2, "CanaKit 2.5A Micro USB Power Supply with Noise Filter (UL Listed) specially designed for the Raspberry Pi 2 (5-foot cable)"
[7:13] <Zardoz> nattyrice: oh then you are good on that part. it does sound like a bad load.
[7:13] <Zardoz> nattyrice: that would be my guess.
[7:13] <irc_smirk> that fan is great
[7:14] <Zardoz> irc_smirk: it surprising works well.
[7:14] <irc_smirk> you have this one ? https://www.amazon.com/Yoosion-Cooling-Router-Computer-Watertank/dp/B01KTG45GY/ref=sr_1_38?ie=UTF8&qid=1512021898&sr=8-38&keywords=USB%2Bfan&th=1
[7:14] <Zardoz> no.
[7:15] <irc_smirk> i could stack up 3 pis and have one pointing one one side and one top maybe
[7:15] <Zardoz> I have that open fan, but dont use it now.
[7:15] <irc_smirk> maybe over kill but would surely cool it
[7:15] <irc_smirk> plus add have to get some heat sinks
[7:15] <Zardoz> just one blowing across.
[7:15] <irc_smirk> this is all for monero mining btw
[7:15] <irc_smirk> or wahtever new coin comes along
[7:15] <irc_smirk> cpu only of course
[7:16] <nattyrice> Zardoz: ok, well thanks i'll keep looking
[7:16] <Zardoz> irc_smirk: sec let me see if I can find somthing
[7:16] <irc_smirk> its a useless venture but its teaching me a lot about crypto currencies
[7:17] <irc_smirk> maybe i will set one up to play the bitcoin lottery like this guy did
[7:17] <irc_smirk> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31ITJO-95iQ
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[7:17] <Zardoz> irc_smirk: lol yeah I seen that video
[7:18] <irc_smirk> i figure ill throw one 24/7 and cross my fingers
[7:20] <irc_smirk> oh i guess i need to buy that usb thing as well
[7:20] <Zardoz> irc_smirk: yeah it would be fun
[7:20] <Zardoz> irc_smirk: I was not able to find what I was looking for...
[7:20] <irc_smirk> i thought it woudl work just on the cpu
[7:21] <irc_smirk> what were you looking for
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[7:24] <Zardoz> here is my miner https://drive.google.com/open?id=195Ro6aOLLYSV1IP2eRTDORJz9orxvE29
[7:25] <Zardoz> under the fan is a bunch of USB asics
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[7:26] <Lartza> Is there a limit to the ridiculousness of BTC mining?
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[7:27] <Zardoz> Lartza: not when there is money
[7:28] <Zardoz> for me it was more about the technology. it was just a learning experience.
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[7:32] <Zardoz> the people making the real money are the asic manufactures that sell the miners.
[7:32] <Lartza> I just remember reading about manufacturers that sold but didn't even deliver in time
[7:33] <Zardoz> yeah there was a lot of tha t going on.
[7:33] <Zardoz> it's very reminiscent of the old gold rushes.
[7:34] <irc_smirk> 84,000 a month
[7:34] <irc_smirk> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPKruBFo2oU
[7:35] <Zardoz> think of all the money spent to do that though.
[7:37] <Zardoz> not saying he is not making money though.
[7:37] <kerio> butterfly labs lul
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[7:45] <irc_smirk> he says he started with $30 at begining of this year
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[7:57] <Zardoz> lucky...
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[7:58] <irc_smirk> i wonder what bitcoin will do to the real economy
[7:58] <irc_smirk> too many sudden wealth people
[7:59] <shiftplusone> They're not wealthy until they cash out
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[8:00] <shiftplusone> I don't see things ending well when the early adopters start retiring.
[8:00] <kerio> 1 BTC = 1 BTC
[8:00] <kerio> you must hodl
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[8:05] <irc_smirk> yeah imagine it goes to 100k. thats going to be a lot of money flowing around
[8:05] <irc_smirk> for sure it will affect housing / apt pricing
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[8:12] <shiftplusone> I'm not sure that's the case
[8:15] <irc_smirk> why not
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[8:16] <shiftplusone> The value of most things is driven by supply and demand. Supply is increasingly scarce by design. The people who got it early will have the bulk of the bitcoin. When they start selling in order to buy things, supply will increase massively an the value will drop respectively. Don't you already see huge sales leading to huge drops in value? I don't think all of the early adopters will hold on forever.
[8:17] <shiftplusone> It feels like there will be a lucky few who cashed out at the right time and the rest will be left with... probably no nothing, but not the millions they think they have.
[8:17] <shiftplusone> *not nothing
[8:18] <shiftplusone> Maybe the scarcity will still keep the value going up in the long run, or maybe people will ditch bitcoin for something new that comes along. I have no idea.
[8:19] <irc_smirk> but they wont dump all their coins
[8:19] <irc_smirk> they will just shave a few bits at a time
[8:19] <shiftplusone> They will if they're close to retiring, unless they choose to pass it on
[8:19] <irc_smirk> since the value will be so large
[8:19] <irc_smirk> you mean like old grampa retiring?
[8:19] <shiftplusone> yeah
[8:19] <irc_smirk> well thats not the demographic
[8:20] <shiftplusone> not right now
[8:20] <shiftplusone> but they will get old some day and holding won't make a lot of sense.
[8:20] <irc_smirk> oh no way bitcoin will be around that long
[8:20] <irc_smirk> it will get replaced by somethign else
[8:21] <irc_smirk> there is nothing intrinsic about it to maintain dominaince other than its brand and price/speculation
[8:21] <irc_smirk> the universe of alt coins are derivatives of its code base , and one of those or several will take over
[8:21] <irc_smirk> or who knows. wild card. the state will introduce its own 'fedcoin'
[8:21] <irc_smirk> i dont see bitcoin around 20 years
[8:22] <shiftplusone> Right, then aren't you agreeing that the value of bitcoin will peak and crash at some point?
[8:22] <irc_smirk> it does that daily. just going to get bigger highs and lower crashes but at much hihger points
[8:22] <irc_smirk> say 100k, then dipps to 80k. thats 20k crash but still 80k
[8:23] <shiftplusone> No I mean really peak. Get to the highest it will ever be
[8:23] <irc_smirk> the highest it can be would be theoritically consume all the money suppy
[8:23] <shiftplusone> and then go down and down as people start to jump ship
[8:23] <irc_smirk> but it could never reach that level
[8:23] <irc_smirk> everyone would be a trillionare
[8:23] <irc_smirk> and thats what i mean, inflation in real economy
[8:24] <irc_smirk> at some poitn the big money has to come in to tap it off
[8:24] <irc_smirk> its not liek one day you can buy google with 1 bitcoin
[8:26] <shiftplusone> I'm having trouble understanding how you can say that it will have a long term effect on the economy but also that it won't be around in 20 years. To have an effect on the economy, people would need to cash out. To cash out, the value would have to drop. People who don't cash out lose everything when bitcoin is no longer relevant. I am probably missing something though.
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[8:27] <irc_smirk> hrm
[8:27] <irc_smirk> well is it realistic it could hit 100k?
[8:28] <irc_smirk> i think it is
[8:28] <irc_smirk> so say someoen bought a couple in 2017. they would have say half million
[8:29] <irc_smirk> and everyoen before them would be millionares
[8:29] <irc_smirk> if they held of course
[8:29] <mfa298> shiftplusone: I don't think your missing anything there, and bitcoin has had at least one major crash in its time
[8:29] <shiftplusone> millionaires on paper
[8:29] <irc_smirk> yes but they can convert to usd very easily
[8:29] <shiftplusone> those millions they'd have wouldn't be 'redeemable'
[8:29] <shiftplusone> not all of them
[8:30] <irc_smirk> why not?
[8:30] <shiftplusone> mfa298: aye, but the bitcoin fans will say it will always recover, so any crash is temporary.
[8:31] <mfa298> if you have lots of bitcoins you can't sell them easily, youre limited by what's on the market and as you sell your bitcoin the price will drop
[8:32] <shiftplusone> irc_smirk: because if you dump 1 million worth of bitcoin and others do the same. The value is maintained only if there are buyers willing to pay, which won't be the case if the trend becomes selling, especially when people are moving from bitcoin to something else.
[8:32] <irc_smirk> yes i agree
[8:32] <irc_smirk> i dont think people will do that
[8:33] <shiftplusone> When bitcoin is no longer relevant how much will it be worth?
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[8:34] <irc_smirk> well crypto isnt goign anywhere
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[8:34] <irc_smirk> bitcoin yes it could evaporate. esp with gov control
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[8:34] <shiftplusone> and how much will it be worth then?
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[8:35] <irc_smirk> a lot less
[8:35] <irc_smirk> as the common person wont want to hold 'illegal curreny'
[8:35] <irc_smirk> i just dont think the gov will do that
[8:35] <irc_smirk> not in the US anyways
[8:35] <shiftplusone> So how will everyone get their investment back if nobody is willing to buy it at that price?
[8:36] <irc_smirk> i think the US banks will bring out their own crypto. like i said a fed coin
[8:36] <irc_smirk> and they will make transfering from bitcoin
[8:36] <shiftplusone> but it won't continue with the bitcoin blockchain
[8:36] <irc_smirk> blockchains are a dime a dozen
[8:36] <irc_smirk> im runing one on my pi right now
[8:36] <oq> why do us banks need a crypto over the existing currency?
[8:36] <irc_smirk> you only need 2 computers
[8:37] <shiftplusone> right, but the value these people have are on the bitcoin blockchain... why would a government crypto care about that? You'd start with 0, not with what you had on some other blockchain
[8:37] <oq> people use bitcoin *because* it isn't controlled by a government
[8:37] <oq> having an official u.s crypto that is tracked defeats the point
[8:37] <irc_smirk> oq - bitcoin is gov project from the start
[8:37] <shiftplusone> oq: government might be interested because it's easy to track all of the transactions.
[8:37] <irc_smirk> bitcoin is basically gov coin beta program
[8:37] <shiftplusone> in ways you can't with paper/plastic money
[8:38] <irc_smirk> exactly
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[8:38] <shiftplusone> Anyway... I should do some work or something.
[8:38] <oq> shiftplusone: just do away with physical cash like sweden is doing. Then everything is tracked. You don't need to go crypto for that
[8:39] <shiftplusone> true
[8:40] <oq> first america would need to get on contactless though
[8:40] <shiftplusone> They haven't?
[8:40] <oq> nah. They don't even have chip and pin yet.. The only contactless they have is that crap via the phones
[8:41] <oq> you can buy almost anything with contactless in the uk
[8:41] <oq> it completely cuts out the need for cash
[8:42] <ShorTie> i want my cash, screw contactless
[8:43] <oq> and the reason contactless is so ubiquitous here is because chip & pin was ubiquitous and they visa just needed to send out replacement chip & pin machines to implement it
[8:43] <oq> one leads to the other
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[9:03] <Latrina> good morning
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[9:18] <tnewman> moooorning Latrina
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[9:46] <gloomy_> hi
[9:46] <gloomy_> I've been trying to connect to my new PI through an ethernet cable
[9:47] <gloomy_> Tried setting a static IP like described in the last post here https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/37920/how-do-i-set-up-networking-wifi-static-ip-address
[9:47] <gloomy_> (it's running jessie)
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[9:48] <gloomy_> But I can't ssh into it and it doesn't show up when I do a network scan, any idea what I might be doing wrong?
[9:50] <gloomy_> Ah, well, the ethernet wire wasn't plugged into the PI. That might explain it.
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[10:23] <oq> gloomy_: you enabled ssh right?
[10:24] <gloomy_> yes, it was just the ethernet wire that wasn't correctly plugged in, works now :)
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[10:27] <ebarch> one of these days I'm hoping they'll invent non-wired-ethernet. i'm thinking they could call it something catchy like EthFi or NoWiNet :P
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[10:27] <dan2wik> Or wifi
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[13:37] <kerio> dan2wik: pff, that's such a stupid name
[13:37] <kerio> what's it supposed to mean, "wireless fidelity"?
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[13:37] <dan2wik> It doesn't actually stand for anything
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[13:38] <kerio> it'll never take on
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[13:45] <BurtyB> sounds better than some over complicated security horror that sort of works like wired for some use cases we could end up with...
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[13:49] <SpeedEvil> as long as it has wired equivalent privacy, it'll be fine.
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[14:23] <GeekOfflineNL> hello
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[14:40] <mlelstv> https://mobile.twitter.com/rsh/status/936216428427878403
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[14:41] <BurtyB> hi
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[14:57] <red9> mlelstv, Guess that's a RPi-3 ?
[14:59] <Muntaner> hello to everyone guys! I am having some troubles with my RaspBerry Pi 3. I need to run on it a very old CMS which needs PHP 5.2.6 and Apache 2.2.22. Apache does not seem to be a problem, but PHP is giving me a lot of troubles. I can't understand how to install "old" PHPs versions
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[15:00] <Muntaner> I installed RaspBian Jessie 2016-2-29, which seems to be the first RaspBian version supported by Raspberry Pi 3 (according to the wiki page of Raspbian), but it stills install PHP 5.5.+
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[15:21] <mfa298> Muntaner: you might have to compile a php that old from scratch, although if the CMS is that old it might be better to find something a bit more recent.
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[15:22] <Muntaner> mfa298: I can try to compile it. If I install an old RaspBian and set up the repositories, do I have any changes to directly install that version of PHP?
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[15:23] <mlelstv> red9, rpi3 running 64bit system
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[15:28] <mfa298> Muntaner: you may be able to get wheezy to run on a pi3, but a quick google suggests that's php5.4.
[15:29] <Muntaner> mfa298: that's exactly what happened me yesterday :/ do you know any other distros which I could run on my Rasp?
[15:30] <mfa298> I doubt there's anything with such an ancient verion of php.
[15:31] <mfa298> and I'd be worried about running anything using such an old version anywhere near the internet.
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[15:32] <mfa298> s/old/prehistoric/ - I just looked 5.2 was released over a decade ago
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[15:36] <Muntaner> mfa298: you're right, this is a shitty lawyers CMS that should run inside a LAN so security SHOULD NOT be a problem
[15:36] <Muntaner> it does not even work with PHP 5.3
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[15:37] <benoliver999> Got a Pi Zero running with matchbox and kweb as a 'kiosk' of sorts. My startup script runs: 'xset s off -dpms' and 'xset s noblank' and yet I think the screen goes to sleep anyway
[15:38] <benoliver999> Do you know where I might start to look for debugging?
[15:38] <benoliver999> I checked xset is installed and set correctly
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[15:39] <benoliver999> I wondered if it was the monitor itself but I can't find anything
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[15:43] <wasutton3> is there a guide somewhere on how to add a device to the device tree on bare raspbian (adding an SPI device specifically)
[15:44] <red9> Muntaner, If one of those lawyers can't stop themselfes from clickbait. The local network will be accessible from the outside and any unsecured services will be p0wned.
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[15:45] <red9> mlelstv, does that NetBSD work for RPi2 as well?
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[15:56] <redrabbit> if that soft doesnt run on new php versions just correct the issues
[15:56] <redrabbit> or toss it
[15:56] <redrabbit> i have 10 years old code still purring
[15:56] <mlelstv> red9, 64bit doesn't work on rpi2, that is the original rpi2.
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[15:57] <red9> which netbsd port works on rpi2?
[15:57] <mlelstv> but 32bit does. I use an RPI2 as my desktop
[15:57] <red9> btw is netbsd stable on rpi2/rpi3 ?
[15:57] <mlelstv> yes
[15:57] <mlelstv> the 32bit version is
[15:58] <mlelstv> 64bit is work in progress
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[16:01] <red9> ah netbsd/evbarm is for RPi2.
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[16:02] <pwillard> Not holding my breath on 64 bit.
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[16:03] <red9> how is freebsd on RPi-3 ?
[16:04] <mlelstv> pwillard, why?
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[16:05] <mlelstv> I have no experience with freebsd on rpi-3
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[16:06] <red9> pwillard, any particular reason?
[16:07] <pwillard> I kind of lose faith in promises that are over year old... ;-P
[16:07] <red9> Hopefully there's a cheaper alternative to the RPi-2. The Raspberry project seems to be loosing focus by going for high performance, but with a high price tag.
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[16:07] <mlelstv> pwillard, see https://mobile.twitter.com/rsh/status/936216428427878403
[16:08] <mlelstv> that's a rpi-3 booted in 64bit mode
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[16:08] <Pauluz> Hi all
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[16:10] <Pauluz> I want to install mydomoathome, and I've tried with apt-get and manually with .deb file with command dpkg -i but all I got is errors
[16:10] <Pauluz> like: npm ERR! Linux 4.9.35-v7+
[16:10] <Pauluz> npm ERR! argv "/usr/bin/node" "/usr/local/bin/npm" "cache" "clean" "--force" npm ERR! node v4.8.6 npm ERR! npm v2.15.12 npm ERR! Unexpected identifier npm ERR! npm ERR! If you need help, you may report this error at: npm ERR! <https://github.com/npm/npm/issues> npm ERR! Please include the following file with any support request: npm ERR! /npm-debug.log
[16:11] <Pauluz> can someone help me out?
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[16:11] <Pauluz> I am 1000% n00b
[16:11] <mfa298> red9: well the Foundations aims isn't to be the fastest possible for the cheapest price, it's about education for a decent price which the Raspberry Pi series does very well
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[16:12] <red9> mfa298, but the rpi3 is essentially a 2x price hike.
[16:13] <mfa298> red9: compared to what ?
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[16:13] <red9> mfa298, rpi2
[16:13] <Pauluz> hi red9 :-)
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[16:14] <Pauluz> Can I get some help from experienced pi-owners?
[16:14] <mfa298> red9: not in any store I've looked at - Pi3 is about the same price as the Pi2 - they've all been aimed at the $35 price point
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[16:14] <red9> if u change os to freebsd ;)
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[16:16] <red9> mfa298, here it's been essentially 24 US$ for rpi2 vs 48 US$ for rpi3.
[16:17] <red9> mfa298, with the catch that rpi2 is not stocked anymore (unavailable)
[16:17] <shiftplusone> where's here?
[16:17] <red9> sweden
[16:17] <shiftplusone> strange
[16:17] <red9> what part?
[16:18] <mlelstv> just means that rpi2 prices are pure fantasy :)
[16:18] <mfa298> that would sound like they're subsidising the cost of the Pi2 by increasing the price of the Pi3 (buying direct from the people licensed to make them the prices are very similar)
[16:18] <mlelstv> I have yet to see a rpi2 v1.2, which is more a stripped rpi3.
[16:19] <shiftplusone> Both. I know some countries have problems because of high import taxes, shipping costs or additional certification requirements which bump the price up. Wouldn've thought that in Sweden you'd be able to get them at a more reasonable price.
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[16:19] <shiftplusone> And that being in Europe, the availability of various models would be about the same.
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[16:21] <red9> people are buying from China in droves. Time to drop the local market.
[16:22] <red9> So what are your prices and where?
[16:23] <mlelstv> rpi2 and rpi3 are both ~ EUR35
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[16:24] <red9> mlelstv, in my opinion that is too much for a rpi thing.
[16:24] <mfa298> £30 for the Pi3 £31 for the Pi2 (1.2) from RS (one of the companies licensed to make them)
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[16:24] <shiftplusone> In UK it's $35 + VAT + a little bit of wiggle for currency value fluctuation
[16:24] <mlelstv> red9, the EUR12 for a RPI0 are too much, and the 1-per-customer restriction is ridiculous
[16:25] <shiftplusone> Currenty $43.27 (32 GBP)
[16:25] <mfa298> Pi2 (1.2) is cheaper in bulk £26 each (box of 150)
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[16:25] <shiftplusone> In America where there's no VAT, you can go to a microcenter and pick one up off a shelf for $35
[16:25] <mlelstv> no idea why they make a Pi2 1.2
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[16:26] <shiftplusone> because people buy them
[16:26] <mlelstv> then it would be for sale here :)
[16:26] <shiftplusone> I think the idea is that some industrial users don't want wifi on board and also any product with a pi in it would need additional certification for the wifi
[16:27] <mlelstv> the only reason would be an appliance with rpi2 inside that can't handle the slight changes done for rpi3.
[16:27] <shiftplusone> mlelstv: it's not even available on amazon in sweden?
[16:27] <red9> The wifi is security certified with drill hole through it.. ;->
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[16:27] <mlelstv> amazon sells the old rpi2
[16:27] <red9> for?
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[16:28] <mlelstv> at least that's what you can buy, no idea what they deliver :)
[16:28] <mlelstv> EUR34
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[16:28] <mfa298> mlelstv: AIUI its mostly for industrial users using them in products where they needed extra certification
[16:28] <mlelstv> not amazon directly, marketplace.
[16:28] <mlelstv> and here is not sweden :)
[16:29] <mlelstv> "Verkauf durch Almost Anything Ltd und Versand durch Amazon. "
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[16:29] <mfa298> or what shiftplusone already said (my internet has gone laggy)
[16:31] <shauno> I gotta admit I find 'too much' a bit funny. people have no idea how good they've got it these days
[16:31] <red9> I would like the RPi2 with SMPS power conversion and real Ethernet directly attached via RMII or MII bus.
[16:31] <red9> and a low price. Even if that would mean like 256 MB of RAM etc.
[16:31] <mlelstv> hmm. farnell sells rpi2 v1.2 for EUR30
[16:31] <mfa298> RS look to have some of the original Pi2 still, but I suspect they'll only exist until all the BCM2835 have been used.
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[16:32] <mlelstv> rpi2 is BCM2836
[16:32] <mlelstv> rpi1 is BCM2835
[16:32] <red9> How many layers is the rpi2?
[16:32] <mlelstv> rpi0 is also BCM2835 but for some reason faster.
[16:32] <mfa298> that'#s the one I meant, accuracy of laggy internet is a pain
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[16:37] <red9> mfa298, Nevada is only laggy internet?
[16:37] <BurtyB> rpi2 is now BCM2837
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[16:42] <red9> rpi2 version 1.2 that is.
[16:42] <red9> Will it boot a 32-bit OS?
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[16:46] <red9> otherwise I'll guess some rpi2 buyers will be unhappy ..
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[16:46] <mfa298> all the pi's can boot a 32bit OS
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[16:50] <pwillard> Rpi2 costs about $5 to $10 more than Pi3 everywhere I look
[16:51] <red9> pwillard, what's the price for Pi3 then?
[16:52] <Technicus> Hello, I cross compiled the kernel to enable the GPIO key matrix module support. I changed the instruction `sudo make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabihf- INSTALL_MOD_PATH=mnt/ext4 modules_install` to `sudo make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabihf- INSTALL_MOD_PATH=../install modules_install` so that I could see what files it created. It creates ../lib/firmware/modules/4.9.65+/build and source. I tried copying t
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[16:53] <pwillard> Average is about $34
[16:53] <Technicus> I think that /build and /source are symbolic links. How do I deal with that?
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[16:53] <Technicus> I mean how do I move those directories and their contents?
[16:53] <pwillard> create the links you need?
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[16:54] <shauno> your first line was cut off again, too long
[16:54] <Technicus> Hello, I cross compiled the kernel to enable the GPIO key matrix module support.
[16:54] <Technicus> I changed the instruction `sudo make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabihf- INSTALL_MOD_PATH=mnt/ext4 modules_install` to
[16:54] <Technicus> `sudo make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabihf- INSTALL_MOD_PATH=../install modules_install`
[16:54] <Technicus> so that I could see what files it created. It creates ../lib/firmware/modules/4.9.65+/build and source.
[16:54] <red9> I wonder how many rpi2 clones one would need to make to approach the unit cost of the real one..
[16:54] <Technicus> I tried copying them to the SD card, but I get errors.
[16:55] <BurtyB> Technicus, and the error was?
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[16:56] <Technicus> The file is already there.
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[17:02] <mitmf> hello, wifi chipset installed on raspberry pi is not good?
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[17:02] <shauno> this is one of these ones where I can't tell if it's a question, or an australian accent
[17:03] <mitmf> because i can’t use wifi that have strong signal
[17:03] <BurtyB> Technicus, what distro are you running?
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[17:04] <Technicus> Arch to cross compile and RetroPie. I connect to the RaspberryPi through the fish protocol as root through the Dolphin file browser.
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[17:05] <rainingimpala> Hey, folks! How many services can I run from an RPi?
[17:05] <rainingimpala> How would I figure that out?
[17:05] <rainingimpala> (very new to hosting and networking, if you coulnd't tell)
[17:06] <rainingimpala> Do I have to check how many, and what, ports are open? Can I run a service from each open port?
[17:06] <mfa298> rainingimpala: depends very much on the service and userbase
[17:06] <mitmf> hello, wifi chipset installed on raspberry pi is not good? No one is here?
[17:06] <rainingimpala> Just me for a user
[17:07] <mfa298> rainingimpala: potentially a lot of things then, it really depends on what you're thinking to run
[17:07] <rainingimpala> And I think relatively low-power services like Wallabag (like Pocket, for link storage) and Habitica (which may be more CPU-intensive, but I need to check)
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[17:07] <rainingimpala> So what would be my limiting reagent, so to speak?
[17:07] <rainingimpala> CPU?
[17:08] <red9> memory and TCP/UDP ports.
[17:08] <mfa298> cpu/memory/network/sd speed/... it all depends on what the services need compared to what the Pi can supply
[17:09] <rainingimpala> Ah okay
[17:09] <rainingimpala> So I need to compile some stats for what programs I want and how much resources they would typically use
[17:09] <rainingimpala> Anf check open TCP/UDP ports
[17:09] <rainingimpala> *and
[17:09] <Technicus> How do I specify selecting a different kernel at boot?
[17:09] <rainingimpala> And configure things from there, adding Pis as resources on one runs out?
[17:09] <Technicus> kernel=kernel-myconfig.img
[17:10] <rainingimpala> This is all really helpful, btw, thanks y'all!
[17:10] <red9> Even the C64 a 8-bit @ 1 MHz 64 kB system can do TCP/IP using ConTiki. So it's not that taxing.
[17:12] <BurtyB> Technicus, ah it not being raspbian would explain my confusion as the module is already compiled there
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[17:32] <Technicus> Well it seems to have worke so far!!!
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[17:50] <rendar> how i can make a backup of my rasp sd card image, with dd+zcat?
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[17:50] <rendar> (is that a good idea to use zcat?)
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[17:58] <gordonDrogon> is it a good idea to use dd ?
[17:59] <rendar> isn't it?
[17:59] <rendar> i think so
[17:59] <gordonDrogon> when I have to, I use rsync. Put SD card into other Linux system, and rsync the files off.
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[17:59] <rendar> i want only single file, not 90893893 files
[17:59] <gordonDrogon> if you use dd then you need to copy the whole image back to an SD card that needs to be at least the same size or bigger.
[18:00] <rendar> hence a compressed image file is more reliable, also because i can easily copy it with dd in a new SD card
[18:00] <gordonDrogon> then use tar.
[18:00] <rendar> really? an enormous tar.gz of everything? doesn't seem much reliable
[18:01] <gordonDrogon> you think dd+zcat will be any less enormous?
[18:01] <rendar> with the image i just copy back the image in a new sd card, without need of before doing that with linux then copy files
[18:02] <rendar> but with dd i suck up everything, also linux, how partitions are split, and so on
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[18:02] <BurtyB> rendar, and all that empty space
[18:03] <rendar> BurtyB: hence zcat
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[18:03] <gordonDrogon> ah, whatever.
[18:04] <gordonDrogon> if you're going to do that, then dd if=/dev/zero of=/splurge bs=8M ; rm /splurge
[18:05] <gordonDrogon> that'll help with the compression.
[18:05] <rendar> what?
[18:06] <gordonDrogon> just that.
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[18:06] <gordonDrogon> fill the SD card up with zeros - that'll overwrite data held in files you've deleted/changed/moved.
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[18:07] <rendar> gordonDrogon: oh, right
[18:07] <irc_smirk> moring
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[18:07] <irc_smirk> anyone play with the Google AIY Voice Kit
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[18:35] <kerio> gordonDrogon: ew that's awful
[18:35] <kerio> fstrim /
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[18:42] <gordonDrogon> kerio, sod it - if someone is going to dd an entire SD card then I don't really care.
[18:42] <gordonDrogon> and I'm not convinced fstrim works on sd cards anyway.
[18:43] <gordonDrogon> I would like to be proved wrong though.
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[18:45] <kerio> it does
[18:46] <kerio> so does mounting with discard
[18:46] <gordonDrogon> if that's true, why isn't it the default?
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[18:56] <gordonDrogon> I have decided to test this for myself, since no-one is saying anything to prove it one way or the other. I will let you knoe in due-course.
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[19:24] <irc_smirk> im seeing a lot of new compelling competitors to pi
[19:24] <irc_smirk> 8 core in one
[19:25] <[Saint]> That's been the case for two years or more easily.
[19:25] <[Saint]> The Pi hasn't been the /best/ for a very long time.
[19:25] <[Saint]> Just the most readily available and widespread.
[19:26] <[Saint]> Well...if you ignore the Zeros exist.
[19:26] <[Saint]> Good luck finding them.
[19:27] <kerio> i have a pi0w :3
[19:27] <kerio> it's the cutest
[19:28] <kerio> gordonDrogon: probably because lesser sd cards will shit themselves
[19:28] <kerio> like with SSDs
[19:29] <kerio> also, fwiw, the pi0 is the only device i've seen that can properly use the sd ERASE command
[19:29] <irc_smirk> i hope pi 4 will lead the pack again, not just add minor improvements
[19:29] <kerio> no usb (or even a pcie one) card reader was able to
[19:29] <irc_smirk> ive got 8 pi zeros and they are in my drawer lol. dont have a clue waht to do with them
[19:30] <irc_smirk> i spent a week driving back and for to microcenter to pick them up
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[19:30] <kerio> irc_smirk: stack them and pretend you've got an 8 core
[19:30] <irc_smirk> haha
[19:30] <irc_smirk> it costs too much to run them
[19:31] <kerio> gordonDrogon: grab a microsd card that you don't need anymore
[19:31] <kerio> flash raspbian standard
[19:31] <kerio> boot with a read-only root
[19:31] <kerio> blkdiscard /dev/mmcblk0
[19:31] <kerio> suddenly zeroes
[19:31] <shauno> I've got zeroes everywhere :/ a friend asked me recently what I use them for. I got half way through explaining, before I realised I might have a problem
[19:32] <kerio> actually idk if you're guaranteed to have zeroes
[19:34] <irc_smirk> is there a way to have the usb ports of a pi 3 power the pi zeros?
[19:35] <irc_smirk> or actaully even better share its internet somehow
[19:35] <mfa298> with a standard usb-microusb cable - or is that too obvious
[19:35] <irc_smirk> does it give off enough power for everythign to stay lit?
[19:35] <mfa298> and ditto for the 2nd question
[19:36] <irc_smirk> eh?
[19:36] <irc_smirk> pi 3 can share its internet/
[19:36] <irc_smirk> midn blown. will google
[19:36] <mfa298> you could probably run a couple of zeros from the Pi3 as long as you have a decent PSU for the Pi3
[19:36] <kerio> dtoverlay=dwc2 in config.txt
[19:37] <kerio> modules-load=dwc2,g_ether in cmdline
[19:37] <kerio> and you get a usb cdc network card on both devices
[19:37] <mfa298> if you use ethernet to the the Pi3 then a bridge setup and usb ethernet gadget on the zero should work, if you use wifi on the Pi3 you'll need to use a routed/nat setup
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[19:44] <irc_smirk> microcenter has google voice kit for $5
[19:44] <irc_smirk> i dont feel comfortable with google mics in my house 24/7 though
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[19:45] <irc_smirk> its sucks open source hasnt mastered voice recognition
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[20:11] <redrabbit> its a matter of money
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[20:13] <Angeris> https://blog.hackster.io/announcing-the-aiy-projects-vision-kit-234505bc6eef
[20:16] <Technicus> Hello, so I recompiled the kernel and installed it, made a device tree: < https://pastebin.com/guf2WA1P >, but lsinput does not see it. I am not sure where I went wrong. How can I find out?
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[20:21] <ali1234> Technicus: did you load it from config.txt?
[20:26] <Technicus> ali1234: yes
[20:26] <ali1234> not sure then. i will have a look later
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[20:41] <Latrina> hello everybody
[20:41] <Latrina> sup?
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[20:46] <ioan> hi. Trying to install php I get the error `Unable to locate package php`. I run `apt-get update` before running the command...
[20:47] <ioan> any idea how do I install php?
[20:47] <Latrina> aptitude search php
[20:48] <Latrina> see what comes up
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[20:48] <bub_> sudo apt-get install php5
[20:49] <ioan> bub_ yeah, that seem to work
[20:49] <ioan> thanks
[20:49] <bub_> npnp
[20:50] <ioan> what about ffmpeg? It used to work, 100% sure a month ago I was able to install it. Now it's not available anymore?
[20:53] <bub_> I'm not sure, what do you mean ffmpeg was working? the libraries? or some mediaplayer?
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[20:54] <ioan> bub_: I was able to install it with `sudo apt-get install ffmpeg` now, I get `Package 'ffmpeg' has no installation candidate`
[20:55] <bub_> yeah, you have to learn to use what latrina said 'aptitude search <something>' or 'apt-cache search <something>'
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[20:56] <bub_> you don't have to, but it will help you hehe
[20:57] <ioan> bub_: I run `apt-cache search ffmpeg` and ffmpeg is not in the list
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[20:58] <ioan> I should just compile it by myself and have the binary available on github :-)
[20:59] <bub_> yeah, I'm seing that too.. but.. "Libav is a fork of FFmpeg that can be found in the Debian repoositories"
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[21:01] <bub_> hmm.. not sure what the deal with debian and ffmpeg is
[21:02] <plugwash> bub_, which version of Debian?
[21:03] <plugwash> sorry ioan
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[21:05] <ioan> I made some php scripts for live streaming, converting rtsp to hls (to be played on roku), and it needs ffmpeg to work. I'm just going to compile it, put the binary on the github and make my install script pick it up from there whenever one of my users tries to installs my stuff
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[21:05] <Latrina> ioan: learnin basic commands and in this case how to use the package manager should be vital
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[21:06] <Latrina> and has nothing to do with building your own package and host it on github
[21:06] <Latrina> my point of view at least
[21:07] <bub_> but it seems, to get ffmpeg on raspberry pi, you need to compile it yourself
[21:07] <bub_> you might find someone that have already done it, and nice enough to serve the .deb somewhere
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[21:10] <ioan> Latrina, the problem is that I could find a solution every time I need ffmpeg, but I have an install script for my users and most of them have no idea what to do. If something is missing, they are lost. My instructions are simple, get the install script, run it and forget about it. The problem is that so far, few times I had to modify it after few weeks because something else that was available is
[21:10] <ioan> missing... It seems that the only solution is to provide by myself everything my stuff uses and to not trust repositories that I have no control over
[21:11] <Latrina> alright
[21:11] <ioan> do you agree that that's the best option? I'm open to suggestions :-)
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[21:13] <Latrina> Uhm I don't know man, I really don't use raspian, debian or ubuntu
[21:13] <Latrina> but if there is no reliable source out there, it will certainly worth the time
[21:13] <Latrina> I compile the whole thing
[21:14] <Latrina> both self hosted and cross compiling, depending of time and package
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[21:20] <Latrina> this will be fun now https://pastebin.com/kvdG7iHa
[21:20] <Latrina> vim alone I am looking at 30 minutes at the very least lol
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[21:24] <ioan> back. Sorry, my keyboard stopped working I couldn't type so I had to reboot :-)
[21:24] <mfa298> ioan: try the latest raspbian, I think that has ffmpeg packaged
[21:25] <ioan> what's the latest version?
[21:25] <ioan> raspbian
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[21:26] <mfa298> stretch
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[21:27] <ioan> mfa298, thanks. I'll have to do a new install on my test pi to see if that works.
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[21:29] <ioan> Another question, but this is more linux related than pi, how do I backup the packages I need for my install, from repository on my own host? (like php5 packages)
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[21:33] <mfa298> can't help there, I run a local apt cache server here instead (which caches downloads for all debian/ubuntu based systems)
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[21:38] <shauno> the easy way is just to copy everything out of /var/cache/apt/archives/ onto your next install. squid-deb-proxy (and squid-deb-proxy-client) make a slightly more magical version
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[21:40] <ioan> thanks shauno
[21:42] <ioan> shauno, that solves my problem :-)
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[21:45] <mfa298> squid-deb-proxy is the route I've used - which is good if you're building/updateing lots of things which are online (means you're keeping the updated packages)
[21:46] <mfa298> there's also apt-cacher-ng which might be a bit easier to use
[21:46] <shauno> yeah. futzing with /var/cache is quick'n'easy for a one-off. deb-squid works much better if you have one machine that's always one (and isn't going to complain about disk space soon), and you do this on a regular basis
[21:46] <shauno> er, always-on, rather
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[22:30] <Smeef> I found the perfect mint tin to turn into my next stealth pi zero w project!
[22:31] <Smeef> https://www.groovycandies.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/650x/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/o/u/ouija_mints_detail.jpg
[22:31] <Smeef> Got one today at Hot Topic
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[22:37] <BCMM> that keyboard looks really difficult to use
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[22:39] <ioan> BCMM, lol
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[22:43] <Smeef> lol
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