#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2017-12-01

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[1:04] <ilfabri> Hi all... I just installed the desktop on my stretch-lite, i made an error while installing pixel, so i made the first login with openbox. I reinstalled pixel and now lightdm works well but i still log into openbox
[1:04] <ilfabri> how can i set pixel as default session?
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[1:30] <mSSM> Where can I find the pin layout for the rpi 3b? I have found this site: https://pinout.xyz But I am not clear on whether that applies to my 3b.
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[3:17] <shauno> does it help if I just say "it does" ?
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[3:18] <ShorTie> Yuppers ... :)
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[3:19] <shauno> all the 40-pin pi have the same pinout. so you've already found exactly the site I'd normally send you to
[3:19] <stiv> aren't there pinouts on the raspberrypi site?
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[3:19] <shauno> yes, https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/usage/gpio-plus-and-raspi2/
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[3:20] <shauno> oh, no. at the end of the article, to actually tell you what each pin does, they just send you to pinout.xyz too
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[3:21] <stiv> .xyz doesn't look at all suspicious
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[3:56] <xaviergmail> Hi I just got a Pi 3 B and shoved noobs onto an sd card, hooked it up to a monitor
[3:56] <xaviergmail> The green LED is flickering at a constant speed but nothing shows up on the monitor
[3:57] <xaviergmail> I do get this odd backlight flicker every once in a while coming from the monitor though
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[4:02] <xaviergmail> Seems like I got it working somehow
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[4:28] <HashNuke> Hello all ~!
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[13:03] <CyberManifest> I tried following this procedure: https://goo.gl/ZpFrMV for updating my Raspberry Pi Desktop(https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/raspberry-pi-desktop/) on my Linux Virtual Machine but it's still showing/saying I'm on Jessie; can anyone help me correct this?
[13:04] <shiftplusone> CyberManifest: the instructions you want are here https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/stretch-pcs-macs-raspbian-update/
[13:05] <shiftplusone> The second set
[13:05] <shiftplusone> The ones with the "sudo dpkg --force-depends -r libwebkitgtk-3.0-common" line
[13:05] * ShorTie wonders, did you change jessie to strech in sources.list
[13:05] <shiftplusone> It would be quicker to reinstall, if you don't have data to lose
[13:07] <CyberManifest> thank you for the info shiftplusone and I may just do that
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[13:28] <CyberManifest> Is there not a 64 bit edition of Raspberry Pi Desktop ? And if not, why not?
[13:29] <gordonDrogon> CyberManifest, there is a 64-bit debian that I have heard of people making work on a Pi.
[13:29] <gordonDrogon> and why would you ever want it?
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[13:29] <ShorTie> no real gain to 64-bit on the pi
[13:29] <CyberManifest> gordonDrogon: not for Pi, for PC read: "Raspberry Pi Desktop" as in (https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/raspberry-pi-desktop/)
[13:30] <CyberManifest> ShorTie: ^
[13:30] <gordonDrogon> oh that. no idea, not interested.
[13:30] <shiftplusone> CyberManifest: it's coming eventually
[13:30] <CyberManifest> shiftplusone: cool, thanks
[13:31] <CyberManifest> shiftplusone: I look forward to it :)
[13:31] <gordonDrogon> although having moved from 32-bit to 64-bit desktop myself recently, so-far I'm seeing absoltuely zero improvements and speed-ups.
[13:31] <shiftplusone> CyberManifest: out of curiosity, do you care if it's legacy and UEFI boot or just UEFI only?
[13:31] <gordonDrogon> other than it needing more memory and disk space )-:
[13:31] <Zardoz> memory and disk really
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[13:31] <CyberManifest> gordonDrogon: my point for it is that some software only comes in 64 bit now days like Atom text editor
[13:32] <gordonDrogon> no idea what that is.
[13:32] <gordonDrogon> I use vim.
[13:32] <shiftplusone> and that's why you don't write a text editor in node
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[13:32] <CyberManifest> shiftplusone: don't really care, can't get anything to work on my tablet with legacy EFI but 64bit processor, but UEFI works fine on this laptop.
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[13:33] <gordonDrogon> good grief. a text editor that locks you into 64-bit. what a total waste.
[13:33] <CyberManifest> it's more than just a text editor
[13:33] <CyberManifest> it's a programming IDE
[13:33] <shiftplusone> .... it's mostly just a text editor.
[13:33] <GeekOfflineNL> atom an IDE ????
[13:34] <shiftplusone> I keep trying atom, vscode and everything else, but haven't switched from geany. Not seeing what the fuss is about.
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[13:34] <GenteelBen> Season's greetings, my fellow raspists.
[13:34] <shiftplusone> I use atom for markdown though, since it has live preview, but meh.
[13:34] <GeekOfflineNL> shiftplusone, i currently seem to be using VScode a lot more
[13:34] <Zardoz> I t6hought you sed rapiest O.o
[13:35] <GenteelBen> rapiest - noun - the most rapey
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[13:36] <GeekOfflineNL> but right now just happely coding away on fulll-blown Vstudio 2017 :-)
[13:38] <CyberManifest> https://itsfoss.com/best-modern-open-source-code-editors-for-linux/
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[13:40] <gordonDrogon> just because you read it on a web site doesn't mean it's true.
[13:40] <gordonDrogon> personal perferance still rules the roost.
[13:41] <CyberManifest> gordonDrogon: also it's not the only package out there moving exclusively to 64 bit; don't know many if any manufacture that still releases 32 bit hardware, other than raspberrypi
[13:42] <CyberManifest> gordonDrogon: I agree, and my personal preference is Atom
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[13:42] <stiv> "Brackets is an open source code editor from Adobe." apparently i am in bizarro world now
[13:43] <gordonDrogon> I'm currently playing with a 12-bit system. The editor there is adequate.
[13:44] <gordonDrogon> and my 8-bit editors - they're OK too.
[13:44] <gordonDrogon> I have one 4-bit system too - but it's only running basic, so it's basic.
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[13:46] <Pauluz> Hi all
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[13:47] <ShorTie> Good Morning
[13:47] <CyberManifest> gordonDrogon: you still on Dial-Up too and BBSs ?
[13:48] * ShorTie snickers
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[13:48] <Pauluz> I have a raspberry pi 3B, but the file manager isn't working anymore...when I click on it, only thing it does is, flashing my desktop icons, they dissapear and then they are back, but nothing happens....also google chromium is not working..
[13:49] <ShorTie> sounds like time for a wipe-n-reload
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[13:50] <Pauluz> @shortie Are you talking to me?
[13:50] <ShorTie> ya
[13:52] <CyberManifest> "wipe-n-reload" the battle cry of the disposable generation :|
[13:52] <Pauluz> But what do you mean!
[13:52] <CyberManifest> Pauluz: he wasn't you to reinstall
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[13:52] <CyberManifest> wants*
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[13:53] <Pauluz> I don't want that....reinstallation..is it not possible to fix the errors only?
[13:53] <ShorTie> if it's acting that stupid, you will never "repair" it properly
[13:53] <CyberManifest> Pauluz: that translates to ShorTie doesn't know how to fix it
[13:54] <ShorTie> Laughs Out Loud
[13:54] <Pauluz> hehehehee
[13:54] <Pauluz> i was hoping for someone inhere who would know how to fix it
[13:54] <CyberManifest> Pauluz: may try reinstalling the File Manager package.
[13:55] <ShorTie> you will spend days trying fix something that is not gonna work right in the end
[13:55] <Pauluz> @cybermanifest I am a complete n00b
[13:55] <Pauluz> i know how to run commands through the shell or desktop
[13:55] <Pauluz> but that's all
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[13:55] <CyberManifest> Pauluz: then I suggest you go read many a man pages and google information and gain some experience.
[13:56] <ShorTie> oh thats a lot of help, lol
[13:56] <CyberManifest> Pauluz: have you happen to update / upgrade?
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[13:58] <ShorTie> the big question is
[13:59] <ShorTie> how did you currupt your file system ??
[13:59] <ShorTie> pull plug, bad power supply, no good cable, ....
[13:59] <CyberManifest> ShorTie: not a big question, there's lately been a kernel release responsible for data corruption so it could be any number of things
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[14:00] <CyberManifest> Linux 4.14.1 had a data corruption bug
[14:01] <ShorTie> raspbian up to the 4.14.y ??
[14:01] <CyberManifest> ShorTie: if you upgrade it, it is
[14:02] <CyberManifest> Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: LinuxMint "sylvia" 18.3 • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3340M CPU @ 2.70GHz (2.69GHz) • Memory: Physical: 3.7 GiB Total (766.0 MiB Free) Swap: 7.5 GiB Total (7.0 GiB Free) • Storage: 94.1 GB / 245.1 GB (151.0 GB Free) • VGA: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller @ Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor DRAM Contr
[14:02] <CyberManifest> oller • Uptime: 10h 8m 3s
[14:02] <ShorTie> it's not advised to use rpi-update any more
[14:02] <CyberManifest> but I'm not currently on pi
[14:02] <BCMM> ShorTie: raspbian handles bootfiles through apt now right?
[14:03] <ShorTie> ya
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[14:03] <ShorTie> always did
[14:03] <gordonDrogon> CyberManifest, ho ho, very funny.
[14:04] <gordonDrogon> I simply don't see how someone could bloat an editor to the state where it needed a 64-bit machine to run on.
[14:04] <gordonDrogon> and I don't understand why people are just rolling over and accepting that this is how it is now either.
[14:05] <ShorTie> it's not the need, it's a all they make any more
[14:05] <CyberManifest> gordonDrogon: because you obviously don't understand Atom, it's extendable it handles mutli languages, it has a ton of features
[14:05] <gordonDrogon> I don't need to undestand it. I've been a programmer for 40 years now and don't need it.
[14:05] <GeekOfflineNL> CyberManifest, so has VScode, but this is still also 32bits
[14:06] <CyberManifest> gordonDrogon: no different from the transitional days of 8bit to 16bit or 16 to 24 or 24 to 32 etc.
[14:06] <pwillard> And it started out nice and quickly became what it was trying not to be... a just as bloated Visual Studio clone.
[14:06] <BCMM> gordonDrogon: 64-bit requirement isn't the worst of it; Atom is an electron app
[14:06] <gordonDrogon> an electron app? more bloat then...
[14:06] <BCMM> well, the original electron app as it happens
[14:06] <CyberManifest> GeekOfflineNL: VScode I doubt could do 1/2 of what Atom is capable of, just check it out, run it in a VM if you have to.
[14:07] <pwillard> Atom and VSCODE might as well be called 1st Cousins
[14:07] <gordonDrogon> I've written editors that handled multiple languages, syntax highlighting, folding and nice search and replace.
[14:07] <BCMM> gordonDrogon: point is, it contains node.js *and a complete web rendering engine*. in a text editor.
[14:07] <gordonDrogon> and I stil to vi.
[14:07] <pwillard> VScode gets weekly almost daily updates to keep up with Atom...
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[14:08] <GeekOfflineNL> pwillard, true, there is a lot of update on VScode
[14:08] <gordonDrogon> I think it's a complete waste.
[14:08] <gordonDrogon> but that's progress for you.
[14:08] <BCMM> gotta love vscode just for this github issue https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode/issues/22900
[14:08] <pwillard> Now get off my lawn you kids, I say.
[14:08] <BCMM> "CPU usage even when idle (due to cursor rendering)"
[14:09] <gordonDrogon> if only I had a lawn to tell people to get off...
[14:11] <gordonDrogon> I'm working on a project now where they said wiringPi wasn't fast enough, so they used direct register access. I wrote my own version of the project which uses wiringPi and it comes in at 8% cpu usage for the same functionality. Sad times.
[14:11] <pwillard> While I now use VScode daily (for AsciiDoctor work mostly) I do find it nicer to use in general than most of the other tools in my kit. (unless I just need a quick edit and am on windows... and then I just used notepad++ like any sane Windows user would.) The fact that Atom and VScode are multiplatform is a good thing. (but so is not having enough time to make breakfast while its starts... making Vi a nice
[14:11] <pwillard> choice)
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[14:15] <gordonDrogon> and I remember when emacs was jokingly referred as eight megs and constantly swapping ... a mere 8 megs...
[14:15] <pwillard> I think yesterday I said something about not holding my breath for 64bit support in rpi (like it was a bad thing). It was only because it was mentioned so long ago as a planned implementation. It's not like I want it or need it. I really don't care.
[14:15] <gordonDrogon> the world has gone completely mad.
[14:16] <BCMM> gordonDrogon: +1
[14:17] <BCMM> even setting aside the side-effect of horrible resources wastage, the motivation behind electron is kind of frightening
[14:17] <gordonDrogon> it could just be that expectations of todays web weenies are so much more though. lets not forget Linux is still witten in C and uses Makefiles...
[14:17] <BCMM> in that a large number of people felt that what the world really needed was more javascript
[14:17] <pwillard> Actually, when someone tells me they use eclipse I think to myself "poser, you don't actually do any real work, do you?" but outloud I say "that's nice" trying not to sound condescending. ;-P
[14:17] <gordonDrogon> pwillard, :)
[14:18] <H__> auw :-D
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[14:20] <pwillard> For me, the jury is still out on Atom and VScode. I definitely like VScode better... primarily due to how long I have to wait for it to let me start writing. There... atom fails for me. If I forget why I started a program when it finally is ready for use... I dislike it. (therefore, I dislike nearly every adobe product as well)
[14:21] <Draylor> gordonDrogon: if your IDE doesnt have a built-in psychiatrist then it is not up to the job :)
[14:22] <pwillard> Atom 30 seconds before I can edit... Vscode 8 seconds before I can start writing code... simple choice for me.
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[14:25] <gordonDrogon> Draylor, eliza, is that you?
[14:26] <Pauluz> Sorry i had some visitors
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[14:27] <Pauluz> But my expectations where to high for this channel :D
[14:28] <Pauluz> I thought i would get some instructions to fix it hahaha
[14:28] <Pauluz> Reinstallation is not realy an option for me...that's brings me to the fact that I am on my own again
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[14:29] <Pauluz> I am willing to learn, but reinstallation is not very informative heheheh
[14:29] <ShorTie> why is Reinstallation not an option ??
[14:30] <ShorTie> your notes should always make it a simple task
[14:30] <Pauluz> shortie because I had been bussy configuring and installing all kinds of packages, for my domoticasystem etc..
[14:30] <Pauluz> toke me more then a week
[14:30] <ShorTie> so
[14:30] <Pauluz> and the config files are just not enough to import them back
[14:31] <Draylor> what do you mean by .... nah, i'm too late for that non-joke :)
[14:31] <Pauluz> I have made notes, but that would take a long trip
[14:32] <Pauluz> but there is not some expert fixing thingy experience methode? lol
[14:32] <ShorTie> rpi-clone may be a usefull tool for you then
[14:32] <Pauluz> I thought I was among some guru's here hehehe
[14:32] <ShorTie> you can not fix file curruption
[14:33] <Pauluz> I 've installed Raspbian Jellie, but is it wise to install on a spare sd card, NOOBS?
[14:33] <Pauluz> what benefits?
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[14:34] <ShorTie> i get away from NOOBS, if it twas me
[14:34] <Pauluz> or was that just a silly question?
[14:34] <Pauluz> @shortie ah ok
[14:34] <Pauluz> ShorTie: mmm the @ does not work
[14:34] <Pauluz> hehehehe
[14:35] <Zardoz> noobs is for well, noobs...
[14:35] <Pauluz> i am a complete irc n00b too
[14:35] <Pauluz> Zardoz: I am hehehehe
[14:35] <Pauluz> I thought it was: New Out Of the Box Software
[14:35] <Pauluz> hehehehhe
[14:36] <Zardoz> Pauluz: well now that you have to reload, not a noob... lolz
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[14:37] <Zardoz> @ is so modern this is IRC.
[14:37] <Draylor> where nothing ever changes
[14:38] <Draylor> well, it does, just v e r y s l o w l y !
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[14:38] <Pauluz> hahaha and I am on qwebirc hahaha
[14:38] <Pauluz> to lazy to install mIRC
[14:38] <Zardoz> euuuu GUI
[14:39] <Pauluz> what is the methode to reinstall the build-in file manager ?
[14:39] <Pauluz> maybe that will fix it
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[14:40] <Pauluz> it's pcmanfm that is broke
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[14:49] <Pauluz> Have a good life you all! :D bye
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[14:50] <Zardoz> does that mean he will never be back? sad times :(
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[14:53] <GeekOfflineNL> so yes, it is irc, and seems pauluz has not discovered Hexchat on his PI yet :-)
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[14:53] <Zardoz> lol
[14:53] <Zardoz> or weechat
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[14:54] <GeekOfflineNL> he did however know about the old mIRC on windows ;-)
[14:55] <Zardoz> go really old and use AmIRC for the Amiga...
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[14:55] <gordonDrogon> xchat seems to just work...
[14:56] <GeekOfflineNL> So Amiga did connect to internet in those days?
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[14:56] <Zardoz> yes indeed it did...
[14:56] <GeekOfflineNL> my first internet connection was dailup with x86 Windows 3.11
[14:57] <Zardoz> was not the easiest thing to do. but it would.
[14:57] <Draylor> to be fair win3.11 wasnt painless either
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[14:58] <gordonDrogon> trumpet winsock and all that.
[14:58] <Zardoz> Draylor: funny that was more easy then amiga.
[14:58] <Draylor> even the sight of the name is traumatic for anyone who had to suffer through its existance :p
[14:59] <gordonDrogon> I had mostly unix systems then linux as soon as I could.
[14:59] <gordonDrogon> so I guess I was lucky in that respect.
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[15:00] <GeekOfflineNL> you guys remember the linux disc packs you could order with some flavours of linux on it, what where they called....?
[15:00] <Zardoz> it was really surprising how difficult it was to get the amiga sliped in. but it was early days I guess.
[15:01] <Zardoz> GeekOfflineNL: I do, but there was a lot og them...
[15:02] <GeekOfflineNL> Zardoz, yeah i know.
[15:02] <GeekOfflineNL> it was a time when downloading those distro's was near impossible on your dail-up ;-)
[15:03] <Zardoz> the days of mandrake, slackware, and gentoo...
[15:03] <gordonDrogon> SLS.
[15:03] <GeekOfflineNL> oh yeah, Gentoo.....compiling and compiling....
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[15:04] <Zardoz> freaking compiling game it was I tell you...
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[15:05] <Zardoz> I was really happy when I got a Sun Sparc 5 compiled with gentoo, took days...
[15:05] <GeekOfflineNL> :)
[15:05] <gordonDrogon> people do Gentoo on the Pi..
[15:06] <ali1234> i used to use amitcp on amiga
[15:06] <Zardoz> I guess it's possable.
[15:06] <BCMM> with distcc, gentoo on weird stuff is not so bad
[15:07] <ali1234> i had an linux box with ip masquerading, sharing the connection over SLIP to the amiga
[15:07] <GeekOfflineNL> gordonDrogon, some people do windows 10 on pi :-)
[15:07] <GeekOfflineNL> well..the IOT version
[15:09] <Zardoz> ali1234: I used a packet router called KA9Q on a PC to slip over ISDN for a little time on my maiga
[15:09] <Zardoz> man that was a hack job, but it worked.
[15:10] <Zardoz> had to hand configure everthing...
[15:14] <GeekOfflineNL> config the hardware alone was a job :-) IRQ channels and the like
[15:14] <Zardoz> indeed
[15:14] <Zardoz> JUMPERS!
[15:15] <Zardoz> no auto config lolz
[15:16] <Zardoz> oh god. EISA
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[15:18] <Zardoz> EISA was really nice, but the config for it is where suffering is legionary even in hell.
[15:19] <Stagnation> hey guys, I'm trying to use my pi 3 with 5" screen to display the screen of my android phone. I can use vnc to remote into the pi but how do i do the opposite? Cheers
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[15:22] <BCMM> Stagnation: is teh phone rooted?
[15:24] <BCMM> Stagnation: if not, Android's security model pretty much prevents you running a VNC server or similar. Apps aren't allowed to screen-scrape or control other apps.
[15:26] <BurtyB> can you make a pi pretend to be a chromecast? if so you could get the screen display that way
[15:27] <Stagnation> its not rooted
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[15:34] <Stagnation> So I work as a motorbike courier, and I need to see the destination sent by the company. The ideal situation is to have a screen connected to my bike with pi running google maps and updating the location everytime the courier app sends a new one
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[15:35] <Stagnation> would I be able to send destination data from the courier app to the pi automatically somehow?
[15:36] <Stagnation> I used to have the android phone connected to the bike but the problem was I had to dissconnected it from the bike mount everytime I left for delivery. Having a static screen connected to a pi would be ideal
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[15:40] <Stagnation> any ideas?
[15:41] <GeekOfflineNL> so why noy buy an cheap android phone and have it mounted with some locked casing?
[15:42] <Stagnation> I have to take the phone with me when I leave the bike for deliveries
[15:42] <GeekOfflineNL> why/
[15:42] <Stagnation> for the delivery
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[15:43] <GeekOfflineNL> and so you would use the pi with wifi, connected to hotspot of phone?
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[15:44] <Stagnation> for the pi, I just want a cloned screen connected to the bike
[15:45] <Stagnation> however the cheap phone I have for the deliveries cant handle google maps, so if there were someway to autoamticly transmit the location data to the pi
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[15:47] <GeekOfflineNL> sorry can't help you there ;-) sounds like some not off the shell solution
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[16:10] <GeekOfflineNL> so i really booted my pi 10 times before my windows 10 pc decided it was time to let me press a key to log in :-((
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[16:11] <oq> GeekOfflineNL: get an ssd
[16:12] <shiftplusone> Heh.... windows 10
[16:12] <GeekOfflineNL> oq, it is.....
[16:12] <GeekOfflineNL> W10 just decided it was time to update :(
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[16:12] <krautguy> !show
[16:12] <shiftplusone> Recently left it to do upgrades thinking it should be done when I get back. I came back and it was asking me to log in... at which point it started doing the other half of the update process.
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[16:13] <shiftplusone> Why ask the user to log in before locking them out again =.
[16:13] <shiftplusone> =/
[16:13] <GeekOfflineNL> shiftplusone, been there, done that
[16:13] <oq> shiftplusone: there is actually an option somewhere for it to use your login credentials to finish updating by itself
[16:14] <shiftplusone> Haven't seen that
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[16:17] <oq> shiftplusone: it's at the bottom of "sign-in options" in the control panel
[16:17] <shiftplusone> thanks. Will take a look next time I am at that machine
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[16:18] <GeekOfflineNL> me too :-)
[16:19] <GeekOfflineNL> now i am off
[16:19] <GeekOfflineNL> bye bye
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[19:12] <johnjay> why do instructions on emulating the raspberry pi in qemu say you have to download a kernel?
[19:12] <johnjay> linux is a kernel
[19:12] <johnjay> or am I missing something?
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[19:16] <mert> @johnjay you may want to download raspbian x86 desktop
[19:17] <mert> of course kernel make some difference but if you are emulating it only userland matters since kernel handles gpio/spi/i2c stuff
[19:18] <ali1234> johnjay: you have to download a kernel that can run inside the emulator
[19:18] <johnjay> raspbian x86? huh?
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[19:19] <johnjay> well... why doesn't the raspbian kernel run in the emulator?
[19:19] <tga> it does, you have to download it first
[19:23] <johnjay> mert: i just emailed him, he says he actually does want the kernel
[19:23] <johnjay> or more specifically the arm processor
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[19:25] <mert> johnjay: i am confused, if you want arm processor, then you need brcm2835 (like in pi3) physically, then you can run anything as long as its compiled etc
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[19:30] <jiffe> raspberry pi ever going to support usb3? it looks like some of these home automation setups which use usb hardware accelerators are being limited by usb speed
[19:30] <johnjay> he wants to compile a simple c library on arm and see if it passes
[19:30] <johnjay> i'm going to just give him debian armhf i guess
[19:30] <johnjay> i think ubuntu has arm as does fedora? idk
[19:30] <johnjay> jiffe: well the rpi4 isn't coming out so better think of ways to add usb3 support now
[19:31] <gordonDrogon> just buy a Pi to make life easy...
[19:32] <gordonDrogon> jiffe, seariously - if a "thing" needs more than 400Mb/sec to communicate for home automation then something has gone seriously wrong....
[19:32] <ali1234> johnjay: use qemu-user
[19:32] <ali1234> you don't need a kernel then
[19:32] <gordonDrogon> but then again, I was moaning on about a mere little editor needing a 64-bit OS earlier too )-:
[19:33] <ali1234> i use it to compile some things when cross compiling doesn't work
[19:33] <ali1234> for a simple C library though, you can cross compile it, then just use qemu to test
[19:33] <gordonDrogon> johnjay, just compile it under 32-bit x86 Linux - debian if you can - it will almost certianly work on a Pi if you can run it under x86 Linux.
[19:33] <johnjay> ali: it's not clear to me if he wants to test compilation or the result of compilation
[19:33] <johnjay> i'll ask
[19:34] <gordonDrogon> I often do compile/run tests on my linux desktop then a final compile on the Pi for some projects.
[19:34] <ali1234> well the result of compilation will be the same no matter what host you do it on, for simple C libraries
[19:34] <johnjay> whateer he's doing is interacting with sys calls a lot so i think he is more concerned about the kernel support
[19:34] <ali1234> it's more complicated if you are bootstrapping a compiler
[19:35] <ali1234> gordonDrogon: atom? that isn't little in any sense...
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[19:41] <gordonDrogon> ali1234, I know.
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[20:01] <Latrina> good evening
[20:02] <Latrina> I bought a £15 dual fan for the rpi3 but I have the feeling I have been ripped off
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[20:07] <omenlabs> johnjay: https://github.com/kinsamanka/docker-qemu-chroot
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[20:07] <gordonDrogon> Latrina, dual fan? whooshy!
[20:08] <gordonDrogon> Latrina, does your Pi overheat without the fans?
[20:08] <omenlabs> johnjay: qemu + binfmt-support allows you to run raspbian in a chroot transparently.
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[20:08] <Latrina> gordonDrogon: not that I have noticed but I am planning on overclocking it
[20:08] <johnjay> chroot means the kernel too?
[20:08] <Latrina> especially because it will start to compile a lot
[20:08] <Latrina> johnjay: nah
[20:09] <Latrina> you gain shell access to a non booted environment
[20:10] <Latrina> might not be the most correct way to explain it but thats basically what chrooting doea
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[20:13] <Latrina> btw, how do you get cpu / cores temperature reading?
[20:13] <Latrina> does lm-senors work on the rpi3 ?
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[20:15] <NGC3982> i asked myself that just as you wrote it, lol
[20:15] <NGC3982> probably not, since the internet usually tells us to use /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp to see chip temperature on rpi.
[20:15] <NGC3982> (and that is the answer to you question)
[20:15] <Latrina> oh I see
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[20:16] <Latrina> I guess I should have googled better
[20:16] <NGC3982> preferably run that command with watch to follow changes
[20:16] <NGC3982> watch -d -t -n1 /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp
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[20:19] <Latrina> I don't have it
[20:19] <Latrina> I need to compile it from source I suppose
[20:20] <Latrina> I will probably make an ebuild if I get it to work
[20:20] <NGC3982> what is your distribution?
[20:20] <Latrina> gentoo
[20:20] <Latrina> my own build
[20:20] <NGC3982> on rpi? cool.
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[20:20] <Latrina> yeah https://sourceforge.net/projects/gentoo-raspberrypi3-64bit-img/
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[20:21] <Latrina> next release will pack a ton of fixes and possibly improvements
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[20:21] <Latrina> perpahs I will try to squeeze out a 200mb of space
[20:22] <Latrina> although that is not my ultimate goal
[20:26] <ali1234> how much does 64 bit impact on the filesystem total size?
[20:27] <Latrina> right now and with that @world I am seeing 1.5Gb
[20:27] <ali1234> okay but that's lolhuge :)
[20:27] <Latrina> with no additional tools I can stay within 700mb
[20:27] <Latrina> yes, git is big
[20:27] <Latrina> vim is quite bis as well
[20:27] <ali1234> what's the absolute minimum to boot to a shell on serial port?
[20:28] <ali1234> with glibc and coreutils, not busybox
[20:28] <Latrina> if I wanted to get rid of man pages and some unneded stuff in /usr/share I can get as low as 1.1gb
[20:28] <Latrina> with the current world
[20:28] <Latrina> ali1234: if I wanted that I would have used either alpine linux or lede-dev better
[20:29] <Latrina> as I said, weight is not my ultimate goal
[20:29] <Latrina> and yes I will tear down some unneeded stuff at some point
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[20:30] <ali1234> is emerge still written in python?
[20:30] <Latrina> pretty much
[20:30] <ali1234> or portage or whatever it is
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[20:32] <ali1234> does your 1.1gb have the ability to compile stuff?
[20:32] <ali1234> if so, that's not bad
[20:34] <Latrina> what do you mean?
[20:34] <ali1234> can you emerge stuff in your image?
[20:34] <Latrina> I do compile most of the tools
[20:34] <Latrina> yes
[20:34] <Latrina> I only have a 50mb zram disk
[20:34] <ali1234> i mean, when you boot it on the pi
[20:34] <Latrina> and portage is mounted via nfs
[20:35] <ali1234> what is the zram disk for?
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[20:42] <Latrina> compresses cached ram files
[20:42] <Latrina> I don't think I am going to do any work on it tonight
[20:42] <Latrina> I am feeling sick and beyond
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[21:23] <bluecoconuts> hi! I was wondering if anyone here would be willing to help me with some networking problems I'm having
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[21:24] <bluecoconuts> I have a USB / serially connected modem to my rpi3 (stretch). I have gotten it to serve internet via QMI
[21:25] <bluecoconuts> i now want to use dnsmasq and hostapd to serve a webserver locally (make the pi a hotspot as well as ethernet router).
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[21:26] <bluecoconuts> and i'm stuck at network interfaces / dhcpcd behaving poorly. I can't quite get static IP (the same) on both devices (wlan0 and eth0) such that i can host my own dhcp/dns server on these ips and then set up iptables to forward trafic through to new interface (dyanmically created on USB as wwan0)
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[21:33] <BurtyB> bluecoconuts, I'd take a look at https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/configuration/wireless/access-point.md which should help - I imagine you will need to swap eth0 for ppp0(?) tho in the configs
[21:34] <bluecoconuts> so i walked through this, and it has me edit sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[21:34] <bluecoconuts> however, stretch expliciltiy states not to use that (and when i try to run the dhcpcd restart) it errors when i try to use network/interfaces
[21:34] <bluecoconuts> instead of dhcpcd.conf
[21:34] <bluecoconuts> so it seems like the official access-point.md help is outdated?
[21:36] <bluecoconuts> eg: if i follow their guide to the letter i get a
[21:37] <bluecoconuts> "sudo service dhcpcd restart" -> "job from dhcpcd.service failed because the control process exited with error code."
[21:37] <bluecoconuts> which if i investigate -> "not running dhcpcd because /etc/network/interfaces defines some interfaces that will use a dhcp client or static ipaddress"
[21:37] <BurtyB> ah yeah dhcpcd won't run if you have something in /etc/network/interfaces - you can get around that by putting the contents into /etc/network/interfaces.d/accesspoint.conf or something ;)
[21:37] <bluecoconuts> aha, so by accesspoint.conf, i should.. "eth0.conf"
[21:37] <bluecoconuts> ?
[21:39] <BurtyB> call it whatever you want it will include anything in that dir - not sure if you can bridge ppp device tho hmm
[21:41] <bluecoconuts> i'm using QMI instead of ppp, which seems to initalize it's own ifconfig interface (wwan0).
[21:41] <bluecoconuts> and, everything ive tried on it has worked, so it seems like if i can just... get one DNS/DHCP "host" set up on the pi, that serves over the static IP network across both wifi (wlan0) and (eth0), i can get the iptables to forward propertly
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[23:45] <Megaf> Hi all, How can I check if my RTC is working?
[23:46] <Megaf> Real Time Clock .....................^
[23:46] <gordonDrogon> unplug pi from interweb. halt pi. wait 5 minutes. boot Pi. use the date command.
[23:47] <Megaf> Of course
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[23:49] <Megaf> gordonDrogon: I dont know why I havent thought a about that
[23:49] <Megaf> 22:47:37 just before power off
[23:49] <chod> messing with a pi addon board with two relays and 4 buttons, the name illudes me
[23:50] <Megaf> gordonDrogon: but how will I check if my pi has no display/keyboard
[23:50] <chod> ssh in
[23:50] <Megaf> it will get interwebs then
[23:51] <chod> pull plug to interwebs
[23:51] <ali1234> you can check the journal to see when it fetched the time
[23:51] <ali1234> and also what time it thought it wsa at boot up
[23:51] <chod> set it up on a different lan then ssh in
[23:51] <chod> check logs, good idea ali
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[23:58] <Megaf> Well, will first try SSH
[23:58] <chod> piface, but using riscos spi

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