#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2017-12-05

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[1:13] <Montrr> hey, i just got my pi running as it should. I'm looking to monitor a DHT11 temp/humidity sensor on a webpage. what is the easiest way to acomplish this? I have about 0 experience so far
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[2:21] <red9> Is this normal?
[2:22] <red9> host mirrordirector.raspbian.org
[2:22] <red9> ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[2:22] <ali1234> sadly yes
[2:22] <ali1234> some of the mirrors are a bit unreliable
[2:22] <red9> .. And that is despite other lookup etc works perfect.
[2:22] <ali1234> when it says "no servers could be reached" it isn't actually trying every mirror
[2:22] <red9> gosh..............
[2:23] <ali1234> although host should just be looking up the IP
[2:23] <ali1234> so maybe there's a DNS problem near you. it works okay for me
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[2:35] * Zparx (~Fox@p200300CD63C788001CFB887249BD0DEB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
[2:36] * Montrr (~superuser@198-48-141-223.cpe.pppoe.ca) Quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)
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[2:41] <red9> The catcher in the rye.. /etc/hosts
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[4:29] <andre4s> hey guys
[4:29] <andre4s> i am planing to buy a raspberrypi 3 to make a lightberry mediacenter that works together with my dreambox
[4:30] <andre4s> i like to buy it as a mediacenter which i can use for youtube, netflix and things like this
[4:30] <andre4s> a few months ago i have read an article that on a media distribution on the raspberry pi now netflix isnt working anymore
[4:30] <andre4s> now my question :D
[4:31] * v01d4lph4 (~silent_fr@122.180.162.111) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[4:31] <andre4s> is it still possible to watch netflix, amazon prime and other VOD services with the raspberry pi 3 and how about the perfomance?
[4:32] <andre4s> would be nice to have an actual feedback of someone. wouldnt like to buy a raspberry and cant use it afterwoods for my needs
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[4:46] <andre4s> ok, looks like noone here who can answer my question and its very late here in germany. will try it tomorrow again :>
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[4:46] <andre4s> gn8 guys
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[8:36] <red9> How does one figure which Raspberry Pi model one is using when only logged in remotely (have all root access) ..?
[8:38] <ShorTie> wiringPi will tell you
[8:38] <stiv> cat /proc/cpuinfo ?
[8:39] <ShorTie> ya, it will tell you a number
[8:39] <ShorTie> then you gotta figure out what it is from there
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[8:41] <red9> cpuinfo tells BCM2835.
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[8:41] <gordonDrogon> gpio -v
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[8:42] <mlelstv> cpuinfo should give a 'Revision' number
[8:44] <red9> Revision : 000e
[8:44] <mlelstv> Model B Rev 2
[8:44] <mlelstv> https://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2012/09/checking-your-raspberry-pi-board-version/
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[8:48] <gordonDrogon> or just; gpio -v - tells you everything you need to know and if you want to know it in a program, just check the source.
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[8:50] <red9> Howcome cpuinfo says BCM2835, gpio -v says 512MB but according to wikipedia "generation 2" should have 1 GB memory?
[8:52] <red9> heh.. " This Raspberry Pi supports user-level GPIO access." which models won't?
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[8:57] <mlelstv> it's a RPI1, which had 256MB or 512MB. The RPI2 has 1GB. RPI2 != RPI1 Rev 2
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[10:06] <gordonDrogon> red9, wiki isn't always right.
[10:07] <gordonDrogon> red9, the user-level thing is to do with the kernel your running and if you have the gpiomem kernel module loaded - or not.
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[10:10] <red9> alright. I got little worried that some models would not support digitalRead/Write by hardware design ;)
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[10:12] <red9> As for the RPi model. I'm curious if digitalRead(0) time of 0.179940 µs is normal. Or if there's more to do to get even faster operation time.
[10:13] <gordonDrogon> if you want speed like that on a Pi, then you're doing it wrong.
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[10:13] <gordonDrogon> you can read the gpio pins slightly faster, if you do a 32-bit read on all pins at the same time.
[10:14] <gordonDrogon> however relying on access time is simply not the right thing to do as there are many many things that can stall your code at any point.
[10:14] <red9> I only need input from one pin so it's not that critical.
[10:15] <red9> I know of stalling. But I can read several times etc.. so even that can be worked around. Writing a kernel module etc would be cumbersome.
[10:15] <gordonDrogon> if you're using wiringPi, then using bcm mode is marginally faster - ie. wiringPiSetupGpio () rather than wiringPiSetup ()
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[10:22] <red9> What's the difference?
[10:22] <gordonDrogon> a table lookup to map wiringPi pin numbers to bcm_gpio pin numbers.
[10:22] <gordonDrogon> a few 10s nS maybe.
[10:23] <red9> I noticed that the input without pullup/pulldown went from "0" to "1" as well. Wierd.
[10:23] <gordonDrogon> not at all.
[10:24] <gordonDrogon> you're seeing random noise - very typical on a high imepdance input line - which is why you should never leave inputs floating and why the pull-up/downs are set to a fixed state at power on.
[10:24] <gordonDrogon> that's electronics 101...
[10:25] <red9> I know. This is a test setup though. And I did not expect such changes just because a flip in setup mode.
[10:25] <red9> It will be wired to a RC sensor node later on and then pullup/down would mess up any measurement.
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[10:26] <gordonDrogon> the internal resistors are about 50K
[10:27] <red9> ie set gpio to output, set pin=0, set gpio to input, measure how many digitalRead() it takes to go from "0" --> "1" .. repeat.
[10:27] <gordonDrogon> sure - simple 1-bit adc.
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[10:27] <red9> The "R" part of the RC is ~250k so if the pull resistor is 50k => problem.
[10:27] <gordonDrogon> quite a few articles on that - I did it myself for reading an orp12 some years back.
[10:27] <gordonDrogon> you can destoy the input pin if not careful though.
[10:28] <red9> one problem is the undefined input current of the gpio pins. Docs.. docs.. nowhere to be found for details on BCM28xx..
[10:28] <red9> orp12?
[10:29] <gordonDrogon> light dependant resostor.
[10:29] <red9> Destroy how? The gpio pin will be the only thing powering it?
[10:29] <gordonDrogon> when you put it in output mode to discharge the capacitor - you'll get a big spike.
[10:29] <red9> nice observation..!
[10:29] <gordonDrogon> maybe best to protect it with a low value resistor.
[10:30] <red9> what's the maximum current for the gpio on RPi?
[10:30] <gordonDrogon> it's not specified.
[10:30] <gordonDrogon> however I'd suggest trying to keep it to below 16mA.
[10:30] <gordonDrogon> and if you are taking it to 16mA then set the drive value to max.
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[10:31] <gordonDrogon> anyway, good luck. I need to go and sell some bread. back later.
[10:31] <red9> wiringPiSetup() digitalRead(pin) = 18.654784 µs
[10:31] <gordonDrogon> 18�S means you've had some sort of stall.
[10:31] <red9> wiringPiSetupGpio() digitalRead(pin) = 17.639601 µs
[10:32] <red9> some improvement but perhaps not worth the mess with default state of the gpio pin otoh. With a RC circuit it should be driven properly.
[10:33] <red9> µs = microseconds = 10^-6 s (if textencoding screwed up)
[10:34] <red9> are gpio really 0.00V vs 3.30V when 0 vs 1 ie cmos rail2rail or have you measured and seen other values?
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[10:36] <red9> (not sittinh in vincinity of the RPi)
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[10:37] <red9> A 207 ohm resistor ought to protect the gpio from capacitor spikes.
[10:38] <red9> Is it possible to freeze all other processes during critical I/O reads without houdini tricks?
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[10:51] <Hitechcg> red9: if you're in kernel mode sure
[10:51] <Hitechcg> but that probably counts as "houdini tricks"
[10:51] <Hitechcg> there's probably a better way to do it but idk
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[11:48] <red9> anyone measured the actual voltage level threeshold for gpio going from "0" --> "1" ?
[11:52] <H__> i have, but don't remember off-head :-P
[11:53] <H__> it was fairly clean
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[12:04] <red9> Found a really good guide on detailed GPIO physics: http://www.mosaic-industries.com/embedded-systems/microcontroller-projects/raspberry-pi/gpio-pin-electrical-specifications
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[12:08] <turtlehat> hello guys, i have a disk attached over usb, and i have attempted to resize a 250gb partition on that one to take up the full disk (500gb) with great frustration
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[12:08] <turtlehat> after having it boot into emergency mode and i had to do a lot of digging, i now have a new and interesting problem
[12:08] <turtlehat> df -h says the disk is 250 gb
[12:09] <turtlehat> but when i open parted it lists as 500 gb
[12:10] <turtlehat> how do i resolve this so the partition looks to the os like it does to parted?
[12:10] <red9> OS? version? hw model?
[12:10] <turtlehat> rpi3, raspbian jessie
[12:10] <red9> filesystem type?
[12:10] <turtlehat> ext4
[12:10] <red9> mbr/uefi?
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[12:10] <turtlehat> parted lists it as msdos
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[12:11] <ialokin> if it is ext4, have you tried resize2fs?
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[12:12] <turtlehat> im afraid bad stuff will happen when theres a discrepancy like this
[12:12] <turtlehat> so im researching before just applying any more tools
[12:13] * turtlehat would like to keep data in the disk, and moving it isnt an option right now
[12:13] <ialokin> but are you sure it is ext4? if parted reports it as ms¨dos?
[12:14] <red9> Isn't it FAT boot partition + Ext4 partition for running the OS ?
[12:15] <turtlehat> https://hastebin.com/akoquzugiz
[12:15] <turtlehat> sorry, full list here:
[12:15] <turtlehat> https://hastebin.com/ihakevolel
[12:15] <ialokin> ah, then I understand ;)
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[12:16] <red9> Is the sector size on disc 512 bytes or 4096 bytes?
[12:16] <red9> real SCSI or S-ATA?
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[12:17] <turtlehat> how would i know the sector size?
[12:18] <turtlehat> its a usb/sata
[12:18] <ialokin> Im pretty sure you should look into https://linux.die.net/man/8/resize2fs ( man resize2fs ) I have had to run it after resizing a ext4 partition before.
[12:20] <red9> turtlehat, tools should be able to give you that answer. But the quick way is just to get hold of the model identifier and google it.
[12:22] <turtlehat> ok ill have a look
[12:24] <turtlehat> fdisk says 512 bytes
[12:24] <turtlehat> fdisk -l /dev/sda
[12:24] <turtlehat> does that count?
[12:25] <red9> fdisk says whatever the disc lies about ;)
[12:25] <red9> need to get the model identifier to find out for real.
[12:25] <turtlehat> hmm ok
[12:26] <turtlehat> ok looked at it, pretty sure the hardware sector size is 512
[12:27] <turtlehat> (bytes / numbers of "user sectors per drive")
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[12:28] <turtlehat> (WDC WD5000LPVX)
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[12:39] <BurtyB> looks like you need to do what ialokin said and use resize2fs since the partition has already been expanded to me
[12:41] <BurtyB> (tho you might need to run "partprobe" first the resize hasn't been picked up)
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[12:46] <red9> huh.. gpio read with interruptions causes 2.5x slower operation..
[12:47] <gordonDrogon> with interruptions?
[12:48] <red9> ie other processes or kernel doing other things.
[12:48] <gordonDrogon> I'll setup a Pi and do some tests..
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[12:49] <red9> it's quite simple. start timer -- do some i/o -- stop timer. Watch the difference.
[12:50] <gordonDrogon> I have a speed test in the wiringPi sources.
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[12:51] <gordonDrogon> ok. on a Pi v0 at 1GHz clock, the fastest digitalWrite() is the native bcmGpio method and it achieves 13627691/sec
[12:53] <gordonDrogon> digitalRead() achieves 9509319/sec
[12:54] <gordonDrogon> hm. I'm surprised digitalRead is much slower, but it has to do shifts & ands to get the value.
[12:54] <gordonDrogon> but you could say that on average it's about 10 million operations per second.
[12:54] <gordonDrogon> on a 1GHz Piv0
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[12:56] <red9> 0.18602147 µs on RPi2 512 MB @ 700 MHz
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[12:56] <red9> (per digitalRead())
[12:57] <gordonDrogon> I thought the Pi v2 was 1GHz?
[12:57] <red9> So for a 2 Mohm + 300 pF RC that necessitates ~5000 reads.
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[12:57] <red9> model name : ARMv6-compatible processor rev 7 (v6l)
[12:57] <red9> BogoMIPS : 697.95
[12:57] <red9> CPU implementer : 0x41
[12:58] <red9> Maybe that gives a hint on what it is?
[12:58] <gordonDrogon> there are 2 main revisions of the Pi v2.
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[12:59] <gordonDrogon> I think that's the earlier one.
[12:59] <gordonDrogon> I have one of those but I can't access it right now.
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[13:00] <gordonDrogon> however for what you're doing, the actual time per read isn't relevant at all.
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[13:00] <red9> The annoying fact about RPi is NO DATA on input leakage current nor actual values for V_low_max and V_high_min.
[13:01] <gordonDrogon> annoying. maybe, but really not that relevant.
[13:01] <red9> The world is analog :p
[13:01] <gordonDrogon> so use an ADC rather than bodge one.
[13:02] <red9> more soldering mes..
[13:02] <gordonDrogon> however you're not the first to bodge something like that - it's how the paddles on the Apple II worked back in 1977, although Woz used a quad 555 timer for them.
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[13:03] <gordonDrogon> you need to calculate your RC timings to give you about 1mS for the mid-point of the resistance you're measuring.
[13:04] <gordonDrogon> that will give you enough leeway to cope with the odd schedulling glitch and DRAM/Video refresh.
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[13:04] <gordonDrogon> the input trigger voltage on the Pi is approximately 1.1v but it will vary and ideally you ought to use a schmitt trigger.
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[13:09] <ragnarl> Hello
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[13:20] <Rikem> Hello
[13:21] <Rikem> Could any one recommend a power supply board which would be suitable to power the Pi and a couple of DC motors using a 12v wall socket plug?
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[13:22] <[Saint]> You know the Pi is 5V, yeah?
[13:22] <Rikem> Yes.
[13:23] <ShorTie> motors are noisy, i'd use a different power supply for them
[13:23] <Rikem> I'm looking for a board which I can connect to a 12v dc supply which would offer stable clean voltages
[13:23] <red9> I'll concur with 'ShorTie'.
[13:23] <ShorTie> and you got in rush current to at start up
[13:24] <ShorTie> don't want to starve the pi of juice
[13:24] <[Saint]> If you need both 12V and 5V (and 3.3V) with a clean supply and dedicated rails you could butcher an ATX/micro/pico PSU.
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[13:24] <mlelstv> the motors are 12V too?
[13:24] <red9> A SMPS 12V -> 5V + some fat capacitors ought to do it.
[13:25] <red9> feed the motors through some LC filter.
[13:25] <Rikem> red9, thanks that could be what I'm after.
[13:26] <Rikem> [Saint], good idea as well, thank you.
[13:26] <[Saint]> I tend to modify ATX power supplies for this type of stuff. They make reasonable bench supplies as well and you can trivially chuck a variac in there on each rail.
[13:26] <red9> ie one connection to LC filter for motors. Another for the SMPS with capacitors after.
[13:26] <red9> and don't forget the ATX "power_on" to GND:
[13:27] <[Saint]> ^ that.
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[13:27] <[Saint]> nothing ~2cm of 12awg can't fix.
[13:27] <red9> ;-)
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[13:28] <red9> It's just that some people go "why doesn't the ATX powersupply work!?!%". Until hint hint PS_ON to GND..
[13:28] <red9> Unless they got DELL'd and the pinout is from hell.
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[13:29] <[Saint]> Some newer ones have dedicated CPU and case fan supplies and you need to jumper at least the CPU fan to get them to run as well.
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[13:29] <red9> huh?
[13:29] <pksato> Rikem: search for BEC (Battery Eliminator Circuit)
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[13:31] <red9> btw.. ATX 5VSB and RPi gpio to PS_ON could be an interesting combination.
[13:32] <red9> [Saint], how does one jumper the CPU fan?
[13:32] <Rikem> Thanks everyone, this is what I was after
[13:33] <[Saint]> red9: I've got a couple of modular supplies like this and they just have their own jumper caps if you opt to use the motherboard suppl(ies|y).
[13:33] <[Saint]> I'm honestly not sure why they exist.
[13:34] <red9> [Saint], I just thought what to look for if I have to deal with one quickly?
[13:34] <red9> ie.. how do I permanently make it turn on in the shortest time possible ;)
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[13:35] <red9> Like ATX PS_ON (green) to GND (black).
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[13:36] <Rikem> red9, So I would use the BEC to switch the 12v to 5v to run the Pi?
[13:36] <red9> Rikem, yes
[13:36] <red9> ah..
[13:36] <red9> You use a SMPS to switch 12V to 5V DC
[13:37] <red9> What BEC is depends. So it might be many things.
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[13:38] <red9> Filtering inductive motor loads is a science in itself. ;)
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[13:43] <zerus> Hi all. I'm trying to setup a ramoops for rpi. But the system will not boot if I try to add "mem=512M" as a kernel paramters in cmdline.txt (it's a rpi3 with 1024M).
[13:43] <zerus> Anyone have any good ideas? :)
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[13:58] <alexandre9099> hi, i'm having some trouble acessing a server(A) that i set up a few months ago, it is still alive because i can see it on my network, when i set it up i created a reverse ssh tunnel to a server (B) that no longer exists, it there any way to connect to the server A? nmap shows that port 22 is working with OpenSSH_6.7p1 in it
[13:58] <alexandre9099> the client has a newer version of openssh, but i think that should not be a problem
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[13:59] <red9> alexandre9099 if port 22 works on Server(A) then just connect to it?
[14:00] <alexandre9099> that's the problem :( connection reset by [ip]
[14:00] <alexandre9099> "Connection reset by 10.1.18.3 port 22"
[14:01] <alexandre9099> with verbose i get "SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent" before the conection reset message
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[14:07] <alexandre9099> what should i do?
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[14:16] <gordonDrogon> red9, You don't appear to have a Pi v2.
[14:16] <gordonDrogon> red9, I've just run-up my v2 and it's not got the same as what you see. it's also got 1GB of RAM.
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[14:30] <mlelstv> connection reset just says that no sshd is running
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[14:31] <gordonDrogon> I'm not 100% sure there - it's usually connection refused rather than reset.
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[14:31] <gordonDrogon> (if sshd isn't running)
[14:31] <mlelstv> hmm.
[14:31] <mlelstv> true.. misread that
[14:31] <gordonDrogon> only saying that, as I've had exactly that scenario myself because I made a silly typo in /etc/ssh/sshd_config )-:
[14:31] <mlelstv> but the other message is 'connection reset by peer'
[14:32] <mlelstv> reset by IP shouldn't exist
[14:32] <gordonDrogon> my suspicion is that the remote site either has some funky firewall or the sshd process is crashing during startup - e.g. by the server running out of memory, etc.
[14:32] <gordonDrogon> I've seen something like that to a remote VPS that has ran out of ram and was busy OOMing itself to death ..
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[14:33] <gordonDrogon> alexandre9099, what you should do is access the server via the remote console mechanism... If such a pathway exists to it ...
[14:34] <mlelstv> I have seen sshd dropping a login when the disk was full. Not because sshd needs disk space but because it wanted to log the login and syslog couldn't write to the logfile.
[14:34] <mlelstv> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BceUgniHsUC_LvcQbPLdkJdjuYyPIE3o/view?usp=drivesdk
[14:34] <alexandre9099> well, the server is turned on for a long time, maybe logs filled the system
[14:34] * mlelstv got a fan
[14:34] <gordonDrogon> a good possibility ...
[14:35] <gordonDrogon> mlelstv, funky fan ..
[14:35] <alexandre9099> i'll try to plug the raspberry to a hdmi monitor (or a hdmi to vga converter :D)
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[14:35] <mlelstv> without the rpi3 on the left heats up to 85C and throttles. With the fan it's now at 70-71C
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[14:42] <gordonDrogon> right. need to wield the chainsaw. something a Pi just can't do ... back later.
[14:43] * mlelstv is somewhat happy that a Pi cannot wield the chainsaw
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[14:48] <red9> Obviously someone missed the finnish chainsawdrone ;)
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[14:53] <SpeedEvil> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mfz1YrpMbBg related
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[15:15] <pwillard> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZqjrvAOBm4
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[15:18] <ShorTie> SpeedEvil's chainsaw is better .. :)~
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[15:33] <Zardoz> hellos
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[15:35] <Zardoz> mlelstv: fans are a wonderful thing for heat.
[15:37] <PocketKnife> can an RPi v1 handle a wireless nic?
[15:38] <ShorTie> depends on how much power it draws
[15:39] <mlelstv> looks like most are fine.
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[15:56] <hilts50> I’m trying to use my raspberry pi to configure a GSM Relay switch. The switch came with a usb driver for linux called cardinal-redhat9-V0_81b. It is a tar file. Not sure how to go about installing this. Any one willing to hlep out someone who knows very little?
[15:56] <gordonDrogon> PocketKnife, yes - get the foundation one and it'll plug in & work.
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[16:00] <PocketKnife> foundation one? i had one that iused and the nic got wicked hot and i couldn't get a ping less than 4ms. I guess trying to put 2 ips on it too wasn't too smart eitehr. i wanted one ip with the gateway and then othe other with just local traffic
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[16:02] <BurtyB> hilts50, is that the driver for a silicon labs usb serial? if so it should already be in the kernel these days
[16:03] <hilts50> BurtyB: I believe so. Thanks for getting back to me.
[16:03] <hilts50> BurtyB, The pi doesn’t seem to see the GSM relay when pluged in. I’ll have to do some more digging.
[16:05] <gordonDrogon> PocketKnife, I have one on a Pi - model A+ and it's been solid for a couple of years now.
[16:05] <gordonDrogon> https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi-controlled-oven/
[16:05] <gordonDrogon> the blue tack is still holding it in-place.
[16:05] <gordonDrogon> and it's almost exactly 2 years. neat.
[16:06] <gordonDrogon> still running wheezy too.
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[16:08] <gordonDrogon> hilts50, run the dmesg command a few seconds after plugging it in ..
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[16:11] <PocketKnife> gordonDrogon: Not sure why it doesn't work for me then. Just seems to get hot
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[16:17] <gordonDrogon> I have a couple more that aren't normally turned on, but never noticed any issues with them.
[16:17] <Zardoz> PocketKnife: that does not sound good...
[16:17] <Zardoz> PocketKnife: like to hot to touch?
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[16:22] <red9> gordonDrogon, did u publish the PID code?
[16:22] <gordonDrogon> no
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[16:25] <red9> gordonDrogon, could you? ;)
[16:25] <gordonDrogon> maybe one day. it's only a few lines of code.
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[16:26] <Twist> PocketKnife: I used a Pi 1 as a wireless access point for a while
[16:26] <Twist> It wasn't the fastest thing in the world.. but it was stable
[16:26] <gordonDrogon> I keep meaning to put the pid code into wiringPi.
[16:27] <Twist> Where has nodered been all my life?
[16:27] <Twist> I know.. I know.. "Right here. You just weren't paying attention."
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[16:38] <PocketKnife> Twist,gordonDrogon: thank you guys
[16:38] <pwillard> that would be neat...
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[16:38] <PocketKnife> have you put 2 ips on it? for the internal and internet bound traffic?
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[16:40] <Twist> PocketKnife: I was using eth0 for the internet connection, wlan0 for internal traffic
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[16:40] <Twist> So two IPs, but not on the same interface.
[16:41] <Twist> You can certainly do two IPs on eth0.. I don't know that I've ever considered doing it for wireless
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[16:44] <PocketKnife> Twist: My thinking was then i could just put it where i had a free outlet and then connect to it. I would have my vpn outbound, but still be able to communicate inbound
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[16:48] <Twist> my kneejerk reaction is that you won't be able to connect to two separate wireless networks concurrently with one NIC, if that's where you're heading
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[16:50] <Twist> Also USB networking is a serious bottleneck.. don't expect more than 20mbps at best
[16:52] <Twist> those little TP-Link travel routers are often a better fit for this.
[16:52] <Zardoz> 20MB/s is not bad for USB 2.0 off a RPi
[16:53] <Twist> Zardoz: No. It's just bad for a cost competitive cheap WAP
[16:54] <Zardoz> Twist: true that.
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[16:54] <Twist> But hey, if it's more fun..
[16:54] <Zardoz> right
[16:54] <Zardoz> and its rpi fun
[16:55] <gordonDrogon> usb networking on the Pi is OK - the 100Mb interface works just fine. Wi-Fi can max out at whatever the chip supports.
[16:55] <gordonDrogon> it's using the Pi as a router or with e.g. usb disk with ethernet at the same time that you start to notice issues.
[16:55] <PocketKnife> i have accepted it will not work...so it'll stay where it is...i'm hopeful my RPi 3 xmas present can do it lol
[16:55] <Zardoz> gordonDrogon: yeah does fantastic for 35$
[16:55] <PocketKnife> but if not....i'm ok with that
[16:56] <mlelstv> 20mbps? :)
[16:56] <Twist> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00634PLTW/
[16:56] <Twist> that sort of thing
[16:56] <mlelstv> millibit per second :)
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[16:57] <Twist> hah
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[16:58] <mlelstv> rpi does about 90Mbit/s on Ethernet.
[16:59] <Zardoz> I hacked one of them tplinks to do a https://piratebox.cc/
[16:59] <Twist> Oh, that's fun
[16:59] <Twist> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073TSK26W/
[16:59] <Twist> there's no competition in the space
[16:59] <gordonDrogon> I've benchmarked it right up to 99Mb/sec - one way.
[16:59] * BurtyB is using 4x Pi3 as AP - they're workin OK for me :)
[16:59] <mlelstv> either sending or receiving was a bit slower. don't remember which.
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[17:00] <gordonDrogon> it's using the usb interface for more than one thing at a time - e.g. sending and recieving via Ethernet, or accessing usb disk and ethernet (e.g. nas type application) when things slow down, but not drastically, just more than your average desktop would with a single usb interface.
[17:00] <Twist> gordonDrogon: right. running a wlan interface on usb and bridging the networks kicked things right in the performance though.
[17:00] <Twist> now, the Pi3's wifi isn't on the USB bus, so things might be a lot better
[17:01] <gordonDrogon> Twist, maybe not as bad as it could be - Wi-Fi is half duplex - so is USB ...
[17:01] <mlelstv> the Pi3's wifi is on sdio.....
[17:01] <gordonDrogon> got some bakery stuff to do now - back in a bit.
[17:02] <Zardoz> gordonDrogon: I I thought your pi did that :P
[17:03] <Twist> Clearly he hasn't automated the mixer yet
[17:04] <Zardoz> anyone mess with Raspberry pi desktop for x86?
[17:05] <Zardoz> Twist: think he needs a chinsaw lol
[17:07] <shiftplusone> Zardoz: do you have a question about it?
[17:09] <Zardoz> shiftplusone: oh no... I just loaded it on a Dell 3050 mini works good.
[17:09] <PocketKnife> what the RPi Desktop?
[17:09] <Zardoz> yeah
[17:10] <Zardoz> no sound issues and the media card reader in it even works awesome.
[17:10] <PocketKnife> could we use VirtualBox?
[17:11] <Zardoz> I want to check this what I assume is RPi pixe boot is about.
[17:12] <Zardoz> what they are calling Pi Server
[17:12] <Zardoz> it will let Rpi3 network boot from
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[17:13] <shiftplusone> It's handy for testing, but in general it's more aimed at classrooms.
[17:14] <shiftplusone> It's a read-only system where users can only write to their home directories. You can make system changes in the shell from within piserver though
[17:15] <Zardoz> I think it might be cool for my Pi LAN that I am doing for gaming quake. that I am setting up for a retro gaming fest here local.
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[17:16] <Zardoz> use the pi server to host all the PIs and quake server.
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[17:18] <nuxil> can i drive a schmitt trigger directly on a pin on my pi? i have some nand schmitt triggers sn74ls132n.
[17:19] <mlelstv> 74ls132 is 5V TTL
[17:19] <mlelstv> will kill your gpio port
[17:19] <nuxil> yea so ? i want to turn 3.3v into 5 for other stuff
[17:19] <nuxil> not in on my gpio
[17:20] <mlelstv> you want it as output?
[17:20] <nuxil> yea.
[17:20] <mlelstv> ah
[17:20] <ShorTie> use a opto coupler
[17:20] <nuxil> but should i add some current limiter resistor
[17:20] <nuxil> or will it drive it bare.
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[17:23] <pwillard> http://www.mouser.com/ds/2/149/74LVX14-1006698.pdf
[17:24] <mlelstv> input current for a 74ls132 is about 0.15-0.2mA. So that's fine.
[17:24] <pwillard> I posted a link to the low voltage schmitt trigger
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[17:25] <nuxil> mlelstv, ok thanks.
[17:26] <nuxil> pwillard, i dont want 5v to 3.3
[17:26] <nuxil> i want it the other way around
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[17:26] <Rickta59> what are you tryin gto drive at 5v nuxil ?
[17:26] <Rickta59> trying to
[17:26] <nuxil> anywho to get a 3.3v i can easly make a resistor divider or some pullup systenm.
[17:27] <nuxil> from my 5v
[17:27] <nuxil> Rickta59, Stk200
[17:27] <Rickta59> have you tried just driving it with 3v3?
[17:27] <nuxil> yes.
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[17:28] <nuxil> and it works..
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[17:28] <Rickta59> and?
[17:28] <Rickta59> i routinely drive 5v circuits with 3v3
[17:28] <nuxil> but i want it up to 5v because i have added more dip sockets on my board. abd the the avr dudes reccomend me to use 5V for programming the avr's
[17:29] <nuxil> as in support for atinys and atmega 324
[17:29] <Rickta59> ok
[17:29] <Rickta59> so power that with 5v and send your signals at 3v3
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[17:29] <Rickta59> and if you are reading you will have to do level conversion
[17:30] <nuxil> the only line i need to get to 3.3V is the MISO
[17:30] <Rickta59> i'm confused
[17:30] <nuxil> master in slave out.. SPI stuff
[17:30] <Rickta59> you are going from 3v3 to 5v?
[17:30] <nuxil> yea
[17:30] <Rickta59> and are you going from 5v to 3v3?
[17:30] <nuxil> only on the miso line
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[17:31] <Rickta59> so the answer is you are doing both
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[17:31] <Rickta59> ok so .. which is the problem ?
[17:31] <Rickta59> 3v3 -> 5v requires nothing
[17:32] <Rickta59> 5v->3v3 requires a level converter .. be it a voltage divider or something else
[17:32] <nuxil> mlelstv, gave me the answer :p i was asking if the gpio could habdle the sn74.. direclty on the gpio without a current limit resistor :)
[17:33] <PocketKnife> has anyone tried the RPi Desktop in VirtualBox?
[17:33] <PocketKnife> i will as soon as it finishes
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[17:40] <pwillard> a 5V part recognises 1 and 0 from 3V just fine
[17:41] <gordonDrogon> nuxil, if you can power the devices at 3.3v while programming then it's trivial. harder if they have 16MHz xtals though.
[17:41] <pwillard> PocketKnife: that was the first thing i did... works fine
[17:42] <gordonDrogon> nuxil, if they have bootloaders & usb then just plug them into the Pi's USB - much less hassle than anything else.
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[17:44] <nuxil> gordonDrogon, while its possible to program chips like the atiny's at 3.3v. its not reccomended.
[17:45] <PocketKnife> pwillard: woooot ty
[17:45] <nuxil> gordonDrogon, im basically building my own stk200 board that will suppoert atinys and atmega342. i have even added hvsp for the atinys.
[17:45] <Rickta59> @ gordonDrogon he is using an avr kit that came out in 1999 ... did they even know about usb then?
[17:45] <nuxil> atmega needs hvpp tho
[17:46] <gordonDrogon> who knows. I've taken the easy way out over the years.
[17:46] <nuxil> Rickta59, in 1999 most computers still had serial and parralell port
[17:47] <Rickta59> * i was mostly joking
[17:47] <Rickta59> :)
[17:47] <nuxil> besides. the usb dongles you get are just doing a spi conversion :p
[17:47] <Rickta59> so you aren't actually using a stk200 ... more a custom board you want to use with different chips
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[17:48] <Rickta59> you do realize you can use gpio pins with avrdude right?
[17:48] <nuxil> yea.
[17:48] <pwillard> In 1999, the STK200 was a parallel port device
[17:49] <nuxil> i used the name stk200 because its so commonly used and one of the most pirated programmers
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[17:49] <Rickta59> gpio pins on the rpi to do avr isp
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[17:51] <nuxil> Rickta59, thats exaclty what im doing. uing the gpio with avrdude.
[17:52] <Rickta59> good
[17:52] <nuxil> Rickta59, http://www.instructables.com/id/Programming-the-ATtiny85-from-Raspberry-Pi/
[17:52] <nuxil> i started here :p
[17:53] <gordonDrogon> I did a hack to avrdude a few years back in the early days of the gertboard, but it's easier to use SPI now.
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[17:54] <nuxil> so doing all this i ended up programming it using tinytune lib on my atiny85 and hacked my doorbell. so now it plays 8bit chiptune, "bennyhill theme song " ;D
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[18:03] <pwillard> STK200 was never really proprietary, since it was well documented.
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[18:15] <RoyK> hi all. any idea how i can use a raspberry pi zero w (that is, working on a pi3 now for development) as a bluetooth 'handsfree' unit? that is, I want to connect it to a cellphone over bt and then have the pi control the phone, that is, place and receive calls and handle the audio
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[18:24] <ali1234> RoyK: you need a whole lot of software for that
[18:24] <ali1234> i'm not sure where you would begin setting it up
[18:25] <ali1234> should be possible though
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[18:28] <RoyK> ali1234: that was rather specific ;)
[18:30] <ali1234> well, you will need pulseaudio and bluez to get audio between the devices
[18:31] <ali1234> handling calls will need something extra
[18:31] <ali1234> and call audio is slightly different to music audio
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[18:39] <Simonious> Do USB only KVMs exist? - so not really a KVM - but a ONE (or TWO) input USB hub with FOUR outputs - I only need to switch a single USB keyboard/mouse combo dongle.
[18:39] <Simonious> thinking about putting four raspi0s on the wall with four monitors and it'd be great to switch console to each of them from my desk.
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[18:40] <BurtyB> Simonious, sounds like you want a "usb switch"?
[18:40] <ali1234> yes, they exist
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[18:41] <ali1234> however you could just use synergy instead
[18:41] <Zardoz> https://www.amazon.com/Plugable-One-Button-Swapping-Between-Computers/dp/B006Z0Q2SI somting like this
[18:41] <ali1234> https://symless.com/synergy
[18:41] <Simonious> ali1234: sounds like a software solution, which means more setup, no?
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[18:41] <ali1234> slightly, yes
[18:42] <Zardoz> here is a 4 port https://www.amazon.com/IOGEAR-Computer-Peripheral-Sharing-GUS402/dp/B00BD8I2OY
[18:42] <ali1234> but no cables cos it works over wireless
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[18:42] <Simonious> Zardoz: looks like I have to be tethered to that switch
[18:42] <Simonious> Zardoz: I don't want to walk over to it to switch to the next machine
[18:43] <Simonious> I guess that isn't a deal breaker
[18:43] <BurtyB> err how long is your keyboard cable? ;)
[18:43] <Zardoz> some of them use a key combo that you can use to switch
[18:44] <Simonious> wireless
[18:44] <BurtyB> sounds evil
[18:44] <Simonious> Zardoz: that's what I'm thinking
[18:45] <peerce> Simonious; a setup like that, I'd want a green light under/above the 'active' monitor :-p otherwise you'll constantly find yourself typing on the wrong one.
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[18:45] <Simonious> peerce: I can see that.
[18:46] <Simonious> peerce: I'm not sure that is an included feature though
[18:46] <Simonious> peerce: maybe I can just embiggen the mouse pointer and use that
[18:47] <peerce> Ive always been annouyed that standard USB keyboards don't have a USB hub port in them for the mouse. for that matter, the original PC/AT keyboard didn't have the mouse port. I realize, there *WERE* no mice in common use when the PC was originally developed, but they were not uncommon by the time the PS2 port came out
[18:47] <Zardoz> Simonious: disregard them links thats a 2 computer to 4 devices
[18:47] * Simonious nods
[18:47] <Simonious> noted
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[18:49] <Zardoz> Simonious: think you are going to need to use a KVM
[18:50] * BurtyB has a keyboard with a usb hub don't use it tho as the mouse cable would be way too long
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[18:51] <Zardoz> the USB switchies are more for using "devices" with 2 or more computers...
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[18:51] <PocketKnife> how do i change the resolution for the RPi Desktop in VBox? i installed the additions, but it still doesn't resize
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[18:52] <BurtyB> PocketKnife, with lxrandr
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[18:54] <PocketKnife> BurtyB: tytytyt
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[18:56] <red9> Is there any Raspberry-Pi emulator such that one can try out different setups without having to mess with the physical hardware?
[18:57] <Zardoz> wonder if a VM will do that
[18:57] <Simonious> well I'll test out Synergy in a couple days and see how that goes
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[18:58] <Zardoz> Simonious: that sounds like a better wat to go IMO
[19:00] <Lartza> Zardoz, red9, Nope, only qemu
[19:00] <peerce> red9; the hardware is $25.
[19:00] <Lartza> depends on your country
[19:00] <Lartza> For me it's $53 for instance
[19:00] <akk> If you're not talking to hardware, most linux software is the same on x86, so you could set up linux in a vm.
[19:01] <Zardoz> Lartza: yeah somthinbg like that
[19:02] <Zardoz> Lartza: yeah something like that :P
[19:02] <Zardoz> oops sorry
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[19:02] <Lartza> np :P My advice would be to just run Linux VM's aswell it's not like RPi is special in many ways software-wise
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[19:04] <tonythomas> I just brought mpeg codecs (as was proposed in this channel few days back) to make live streams other than h.264 from my pi camera. Can someone tell me if raspivid can be used to stream in mpeg2 now ? or, what library can let me create a live RTSP from the Pi on mpeg2 ?
[19:04] <PocketKnife> ROCK OUT
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[19:05] <PocketKnife> tools + lxrandr = Happy Camper
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[19:09] <PocketKnife> or guest additions rather...sorry...live in both worlds
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[19:14] <tonythomas> well, I see a solution with `cvlc`
[19:14] <tonythomas> is it going to use my hw rendering capabilities or going to do an h264 => mpeg ?
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[19:46] <peerce> tonythomas; mpeg2 video streams are bulky, usually 2-4X more bit/sec for the same quality relative to mp4/h264
[19:47] <peerce> depending on resolution, pi's crappy USB2 attached 1100baseT port might not keep up.
[19:47] <tonythomas> peerce: of course. this is for a comparison study, and I want to have that one.
[19:47] <tonythomas> oh oh :-(
[19:47] <peerce> er, that was 100baseT, dunno where that extra 1 came from
[19:47] <tonythomas> I am going on low resolution actually - 320x240 at probably 3 fps
[19:47] <peerce> ah, then be ok.
[19:48] <peerce> ut, can't help you never messed with picam
[19:48] <peerce> my home network cameras are Ubiquiti
[19:48] <peerce> UVC3
[19:48] <tonythomas> but do you know of some tool that can help me stream mpeg2 from the picam ?
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[19:50] <tonythomas> found something https://blog.miguelgrinberg.com/post/how-to-build-and-run-mjpg-streamer-on-the-raspberry-pi though
[19:51] <tonythomas> doesnt know if this is something I should be looking at
[19:51] <peerce> i wish there was a pi with about 4gb ram, and actual gigE :-p usb3 and sata would be nice, too.
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[19:52] <Syliss> gig eth would be nice
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[19:52] <Zardoz> price would skyrockit
[19:53] <peerce> with those specs, double the pi3 price would be fine.
[19:54] <Zardoz> more like would push 80 to 100 bucks
[19:54] <Zardoz> ther are other unit out that have them specs.
[19:55] <Zardoz> but one day if the prices drop.
[19:56] <Zardoz> I would love the next one to have 2GB and USB 3
[19:56] <akk> Anyone used the "official" pi0 case? Could you get it to close with the camera inside?
[19:57] <Zardoz> akk: there is one with a hole in the top. not sure offical case but looks like one...
[19:58] <akk> There's a hole, and there are nubs that match up to the screw holes in the camera board
[19:58] <akk> and little tab thingies in the plastic on either side that look like they're supposed to hold the camera board down
[19:59] <akk> but I can't get the board to snap into the tab thingies (at least without pressing so hard I fear breaking the board -- one reviewer on amazon said they broke their camera that way).
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[20:01] <Zardoz> thats the one thing I really haited about the offical cases they have no support for Hats or any extras, for the most part.
[20:03] <RoyK> hm - just installed my pi with the latest version and I've installed bluez, but bluetoothd doesn't seem to want to start
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[20:04] <akk> I wonder if they changed the camera board at some point. Mine is really old, from the pi 1 days.
[20:04] <Zardoz> akk: think they did
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[20:05] <akk> Ah, ok, I guess I'll stop trying to make this work, then.
[20:05] <akk> I can close it with a rubber band, it just won't stay closed on its own.
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[20:06] <Zardoz> akk: does the cam have th elong cable?
[20:06] <akk> It did, but I had to replace the long cable with the short pi0 one that came with the case.
[20:06] <Zardoz> akk: got youy
[20:07] <Zardoz> akk: wonder if the v2 is a tad bit smaller...
[20:07] <akk> Yeah, I bet it is. It seems to be the area around the connector that's interfering, so maybe they made that (even) smaller.
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[20:13] <Zardoz> yeah it's 1mm smaller on one of the sides
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[20:14] <Zardoz> v1 is 25 × 24 × 9 mm the v2 is 25 x 23.86 x 9mm
[20:14] <Zardoz> sorry 25x25 on the v1
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[20:16] <Zardoz> they do say "about" that size on the v1 lol
[20:16] <Zardoz> I guess it depends on the cut job ? ahaaha
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[20:21] <peerce> yay, my pi3+weewx based weatherstation is back online.
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[20:23] <peerce> lets see if it lives longer than a year with a tmpfs based /var/log :-p
[20:24] <Zardoz> peerce: what hardware are you using on the senor side?
[20:24] <peerce> an accurite weather station that was like $79 on sale at Costco
[20:24] <peerce> has rain + everything
[20:24] <peerce> wireless to a display panel, USB to the pi.
[20:25] <Zardoz> peerce: I am wanting to do that in a big way
[20:25] <peerce> its a bit of a POS, can't read it more than about once per minute, so you can't really get decent instantaneous rainfall rate readings, but cest la vie.
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[20:25] <peerce> weewx isn't a bad way to go fro the manangement software. generates a webpage, can rsync it to a remote server, also can update wunderground if you have an account there.
[20:26] <Zardoz> yeah looking at weewx right now...
[20:26] <peerce> very configurable, its all python
[20:27] <Zardoz> indeed
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[20:29] <RoyK> anyone that knows how I can have bluetooth automatically accept pairing with a hardcoded pin/password?
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[20:31] <peerce> not offhand, but, I think you'd also need to know the MAC or whatever physical identifier of the BT device, because of how pairing works. and many bt devices require pairing be acccepted at BOTH ends
[20:32] <peerce> RoyK; it should be pretty much the same as on regular debian, for what /thats/ worth.
[20:33] <RoyK> well, what I'm trying to do is setting up a pi that should accept incoming pairing, and I want to set a static pincode to allow this
[20:33] <RoyK> and I have no idea what the MAC address will be for whatever will be pairing with it
[20:33] <peerce> look into bluetooth-agent, and rfcomm (part of the bt packages)
[20:34] <RoyK> I search for bluetooth-agent, but couldn't find it - which package?
[20:34] <peerce> https://wiki.debian.org/BluetoothUser see 'pairing using cli'
[20:36] <peerce> [note, I've never used bluetooth on any form of unix, and what I read on that page I googled is ALL I know.]
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[20:50] <red9> Is there any emulation setup to enable testing of Raspberry-Pi operating system and I/O ports + hardware video encoding facilities + Ethernet via USB + onboard camera etc?
[20:51] <peerce> no
[20:51] <peerce> you can't emulate that kind of stuff worth a damn, as thats all realtime hardware
[20:51] <peerce> the OS is debian, you can just run x86 debian in a VM or whatever.
[20:52] <peerce> kvm or virtualbox or whatever
[20:52] <peerce> ethenet is ethernet, although the ethernet on a Pi is slower than the ethernet on your PC, you otherwise won't see any difference.
[20:52] <peerce> the camera is very pi specific
[20:53] <peerce> haven't you already asked this like 6 times and goten the same answer?
[20:54] <red9> I asked it one time before. But the answers missed the point.
[20:55] <red9> It's the software environment in combination with the specific I/O that is the challenge. Otherwise any standard Qemu setup would do it. So if Raspberry-Pi specific drivers for any emulator has been developed, then that would be useful to know about.
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[21:08] <SpeedEvil> red9: you absolutely can't do it in depth, because the bits you want to emulate aren't open
[21:12] <red9> Only need to do it enough so the software can interact with it in a somewhat decent manner. The software API is open or else open software can't be written.
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[21:17] <peerce> the low level software API, mmal (I spent 30 seconds googling) is apparently specific to broadcom chips
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[21:31] <RoyK> hm - seems bluetoothctl can open up for pairing, but I can't find a single option for setting a pin
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[21:32] <waveform> red9, peerce - yes, the mmal layer on the CPU side is indeed broadcom specific although most (all?) of the source is available for it. However, the GPU side (for the camera at least) is a closed source blob (including a proprietary RTOS)
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[22:02] <Latrina> good evening folks
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[22:18] <RoyK> Latrina: evening
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[22:22] <Latrina> sup?
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[22:47] <acro458> Does anyone know if Windows for ARM announced today can run on the PI?
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[22:48] <Lartza> Uhh nothing like that was released
[22:48] <Lartza> Only devices
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[22:49] <acro458> whaaa
[22:49] <Lartza> Afaik
[22:49] <acro458> i figured they released a new os....
[22:49] <Lartza> Also, no, and probably never will
[22:49] <Lartza> Well yes it's a new OS
[22:49] <acro458> since something has to run on those other arm devices
[22:49] <Lartza> But it's not like they can just dump it out there
[22:49] <acro458> They dump all the other ones out there
[22:50] <acro458> like windows server
[22:50] <acro458> and iot
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[22:51] <Lartza> Because they run on actual hardware or are super specialized but generally usable
[22:51] <Lartza> IoT Core isn't a full os for instance and I don't think if IoT is actually available or is it?
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[22:51] <Lartza> *don't know
[22:51] <Lartza> Haven't seen it available anywhere
[22:51] <acro458> iot is definitely available
[22:51] <Lartza> Where?
[22:51] <acro458> already tried it
[22:51] <Lartza> That's IoT Core
[22:52] <Lartza> Not a full OS
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[22:52] <acro458> yah
[22:52] <Lartza> So are the actual OSes Windows IoT Enterprise and Windows 10 IoT Mobile available anywhere?
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[22:52] <Lartza> Windows Server also needs a license
[22:52] <acro458> i figured that is what they made now. Windows for arm. i figured there would be an eval somewhere, and then they would ask for $$ when you want to "buy"
[22:53] <acro458> I'm aware.
[22:53] <Lartza> No Windows ARM is like Windows RT but not a mess afaik
[22:53] <Lartza> But the information is still fairly scarce
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