#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2017-12-08

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[0:52] <Togra> so I'm messing around with cron and although it's going well, I wanted to know if cron forks anything it runs or not? should I stick & to the end of things that don't return immediately?
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[0:54] <mlelstv> it forks
[0:54] <Togra> awesome, thanks
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[0:59] <peerce> each cron job gets run in a shell. ote that shell does NOT by default run any user .profile or whatever, so do not rely on profile set environment variables.
[1:00] <peerce> you CAN invoke the profile from the crontab, or just set the PATH and whatever you expect there.
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[1:33] <EraserPencil> hi! if I do intend on using te pi as a home server, what should I use as the os?
[1:33] <EraserPencil> ubuntu core or ubuntu server
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[1:35] <leftyfb> EraserPencil: ubuntu core is used for snappy. You should read up on that to understand what it is
[1:35] <leftyfb> EraserPencil: any reason you can't just use raspbian lite?
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[1:39] <EraserPencil> I'm using lxc to test out on my desktop first
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[1:40] <leftyfb> what does that have to do with what OS you put on your pi?
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[1:42] <Duckle> An image I took of the RPI zero SoC with RAM on top :D https://i.imgur.com/SLelrXd.jpg?1
[1:42] <Duckle> you can see the balls :D
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[1:58] <norlevo> that's what she said
[1:58] <norlevo> I don't dare open that image now
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[2:05] <gnawzie> hello
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[2:05] <gnawzie> is it normal for the config.txt to be nearly empty
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[2:06] <gnawzie> i only see a gpu_mem=64 and an initramfs thing, pretty sure that's why it's stuck on the rainbow screen
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[2:16] <mlelstv> normal is a template where most things are commented
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[3:12] <[Saint]> I got a high range digital thermistor.
[3:12] <[Saint]> It is 137C in the middle of my compost heap right now.
[3:12] <[Saint]> 35C ambient.
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[5:03] <ColdKeyboard> I would like to be able to take pictures with Pi Cam V2 as fast as possible. Right now raspistill takes ~1s, which is relatively fast but not enough. What would you guys suggest? Should I get more familiar with camera interface and try to write low-level stuff to optimize camera, should I look at some existing libraries or there is already a piece of code that would alow me to do this?
[5:04] <ColdKeyboard> Camera sensor specifies 15fps @ 5MPx, if I could pull at least 4 fps that would mean a lot
[5:05] <ColdKeyboard> And images don't have to be stored on SD card, as long as I get them in RAM that fine
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[5:23] <ColdKeyboard> Any suggestion would be helpful
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[6:22] <stiv> just spitballing here: 5,000,000 pixels * 3 bytes/pixel = 15 mb / image
[6:22] <stiv> available memory/ 15 mb = number of images you can buffer.
[6:23] <stiv> at some point, you either need to write them to storage or ship them across the network; i suspect bandwidth is going to be the limiting factor here
[6:23] <peerce> almost nooone stores raw images, except for double buffering to the display buffer.
[6:25] <stiv> sure, you can do a quick RLE encode. but you still run up against mem limits and need to store/send. what is the available bandwidth?
[6:27] <stiv> a quick google suggests usb 2.0 thru-put is 35 mb/s. roughly 2 images uncompressed
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[7:17] <ColdKeyboard> I'll be sending them over network and it would be nice to be able to take images as fast as possible, but that doesn't mean I will take 100 images a second
[7:18] <peerce> video is usually 25-30 fps.
[7:18] <ColdKeyboard> So if I can use some MMAL library or something to keep camera initialized and ready, then when I need the shot just trigger it and download
[7:18] <peerce> just sayin'...
[7:18] <peerce> you CAN stream mp4 video over a internet uplink.
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[7:19] <ColdKeyboard> Right, but I guess what I'm trying to do is have that "preview" open or in some other way have camera ready. So when I trigger image is captured quickly
[7:19] <ColdKeyboard> Raspistill takes about 1s to init and then takes picture in couple of hundred of ms
[7:20] <ColdKeyboard> Is there a library or example how to use MMAL & Rasperry Pi camera without tearing it away from Userland repo?
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[7:28] <Fenhl> hello! After installing updates via apt and rebooting, ~/.config/openbox/lxde-pi-rc.xml no longer exists. Where do I put my custom key bindings now?
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[8:52] <reds> upgrading to scratch, about 800 packages to upgrade
[8:53] <reds> wish me luck, i guess? xD
[8:53] <reds> or rather, wish apt luck
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[10:13] <wega> anyone running amibian
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[11:15] <gordonDrogon> reds, I've done wheezy -> jessie in the past, no issues other than time.
[11:16] <reds> gordonDrogon: well, i hope my jessie -> stretch will be issue -free as well
[11:17] <reds> it's still going, 19% atm
[11:17] <reds> it has been asking me if it should remove a file, that's why it still haven't finished
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[11:42] <Azlux> wega: raspbian here. Do you have a question ?
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[11:43] <Angs> I am connected to my RPI3B via serial interface. I've recently prepared the SD card and have been using it without any problem for a week, but now it gets stuck on the boot process at this stage https://pastebin.com/Z18rWiZZ how can I fix it so that I get the login shell?
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[11:49] <peerce> if was workign for quite a whole and now its not, my #1 suspect woudl be SD card life failure.
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[11:51] <Angs> it has a very weird behavior now, it output such things https://pastebin.com/ar3rU7yZ I've never seen those IP addresses, I don't understand what it does at the boot process like this
[11:56] <Angs> I will prepare a new SD card
[11:56] <Angs> very weird
[11:56] <peerce> what is in your rc.local file?!
[11:57] <gordonDrogon> was just about to ask that - seems a very busy rc.local - that's now either lost or corrupt in some way.
[11:57] <peerce> thats /etc/rc.local
[11:57] <Angs> the default one had a bash script to prinf the IP addresses, then I added 3 bash lines to assign an ipv6 address to the interfaces
[11:58] <Angs> it connects with ssh, but doesn't accept my root passport
[11:58] <peerce> do the config files look OK? when my SD card failed, nearly every .conf file had random bad characters in it
[11:58] <peerce> that was probably an extreme case
[12:00] <Angs> this is the config file https://pastebin.com/NiRniDU9
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[12:01] <Angs> this is the cmdline.txt https://pastebin.com/NPEs2nUY I don't know if it has any useful info for this specific problem
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[12:03] <Angs> this is the /etc/rc.local https://pastebin.com/FfrjPGZE does it look normal?
[12:03] <gordonDrogon> Angs, FWIW: I presume you realise you're Pi has been hacked to run a bitcoin miner?
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[12:04] <peerce> what the heck is /opt/qQAk6YCU ??
[12:04] <peerce> hahaha, oh gawd.
[12:04] <gordonDrogon> Angs, you need to reimage it now.
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[12:04] <gordonDrogon> then dont not ever connect it directly to the interwebs without changing the password.
[12:05] <peerce> the default file looks like http://dpaste.com/0011QJ2
[12:06] <Angs> gordonDrogon, wow. yeah I was using the default passwords and open the ssh publicly someone to access to debug it. But it looks like someone else than I accept hacked it
[12:06] <Angs> lol
[12:06] <peerce> but if someone hacke dyou, then yeah, shut off immediately, reimage the OS, configure it while its NOT on the internet, and secure it.
[12:06] <Angs> probably he earned 0.0000000001 cent with the mining
[12:06] <gordonDrogon> there is a lot of automation out there looking for Pi's with default passwords.
[12:07] <gordonDrogon> it doesn't matter how much they earned - it was at your expense.
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[12:07] <peerce> which is worht $100 or something at todays inasane prices
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[12:07] <Angs> yeah, I spent one full day to set-up the programs I wanted to have
[12:07] <gordonDrogon> and they can hack a few 1000 Pi's at a time (which they are doing) then it's free money...
[12:07] <peerce> my son is playing the BC market, he thinks its awesome, why finish graduate school, just invest and play with money!! :-/
[12:07] <peerce> he's a semester away from his PhD in Geology.
[12:07] <gordonDrogon> If you have a Linux PC then you can mount the SD card (read only) and get your data off it before re-imaging.
[12:08] <peerce> i wouldn't trust anything on it at this point.
[12:09] <gordonDrogon> data is generally fine - until one day, someone decided to encode data as programs. (oops - that's already a thing, json - Doh!)
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[12:09] <gordonDrogon> and we were laughing at the phrase "one mans data is another mans program" in the 70's ...
[12:10] <peerce> hey, I remember using FORTH and similar embedded languages in the early 70s. threaded code. basic instruction was a pointer to the function and a pointer to the argument
[12:10] <gordonDrogon> you're older than me ;-)
[12:11] <peerce> core interpreter was little more than increment, call indirect, loop.
[12:11] <gordonDrogon> however I did once do a lot of forth - mostly porting suns OBP to a new platform.
[12:11] <peerce> thats right, ODB was Forth underneath, heh. what a weird bunch-o-chit that was.
[12:12] <peerce> we were using forth on embedded 8 bit processors.
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[12:12] <gordonDrogon> I also used something called graforth on the Apple II. That was almost fun.
[12:12] <peerce> was a cool variant on CP/M called STOIC
[12:12] <gordonDrogon> not familiar with that one.
[12:13] <peerce> zzzzzz its 3am here.
[12:13] <gordonDrogon> 10:15am here..
[12:14] <gordonDrogon> and if you like forth, lookup the fignition system :)
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[12:51] <xavkno> does anyone have any idea how i can fix this: Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found. Try passsing init= option to kernel See Linux Documentation/init.txt for guidance
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[12:52] <ShorTie> is this a sdcard you have been using ??
[12:53] <ShorTie> or your just trying to make a sdcard image ??
[12:53] <xavkno> i have been using it for months but suddenly after a reboot i get this message
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[12:54] <ShorTie> sounds like the sdcard is currupted then, fix is wipe-n-reload
[12:56] <xavkno> is there any way to save files that where generated after my last. backup? or is that impossible as i can only mount boot and recovery
[12:57] <ShorTie> got another linux pc ??
[12:57] <xavkno> i can swing up a VM
[12:57] <ShorTie> or another sdcard
[12:58] <gordonDrogon> easiest is to put the SD into another Linux system..
[12:58] <gordonDrogon> daily backups ftw ..
[12:58] <ShorTie> recovery, sounds like a NOOBS install
[12:58] <xavkno> it was
[12:59] <ShorTie> i'd steer away from NOOBS and just use the raspbian image
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[12:59] <xavkno> will do that ob
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[13:00] <xavkno> will do. that next time the only reason i had it was that i wanted to try a dual boot environment but i changed my. mind last minute
[13:00] <ShorTie> NOOBS will have your root in a extended partition
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[13:04] <red9> How many amperes do the RPi use at maximum usage and networking? ie without kbd/mouse/hdmi
[13:04] <reds> red9: which Pi?
[13:05] <red9> RPi2 and 3.
[13:05] <reds> red9: if i recall correctly, Pi2 about an Amp
[13:05] <reds> pi3.. well, a little bit more than Pi2
[13:05] <ShorTie> don't try to short cut it, get atleast a 2amp
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[13:05] <reds> i have a Pi3, and 1,5Amps wasn't sufficient
[13:06] <red9> I'm thinking about the situation where one has 126 units in parallell. It would matter ;)
[13:06] <ShorTie> i like 3amp supplies
[13:06] <reds> 2Amps was just about how low it could go if i have had connected anything to USB
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[13:06] <reds> ShorTie: i'm rocking a 4Amp one :>
[13:06] <ShorTie> Sweet
[13:06] <reds> yeah, and it was quite cheap
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[13:07] <ShorTie> what is the voltage though ??
[13:07] <red9> But would one need 2A/unit in 126 unit setup. Or is say 10% margin for all okay?
[13:07] <ShorTie> i like 5.25v @ 3amps
[13:07] <reds> ShorTie: about 5.0V, haven't measured it tbh
[13:07] <reds> when my pi will crash, I'll check it
[13:08] <reds> erm, i'll check the PSU
[13:08] <reds> but well, 13:08:14 up 81 days, 5:56, 3 users, load average: 0.10, 0.12, 0.08
[13:08] <ShorTie> not writen on it ??
[13:08] <reds> i don't think it's going to crash anytime soon xD
[13:08] <reds> ShorTie: it says 5V 4A, but idk what exactly is it giving out
[13:09] <ShorTie> thats close enough
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[13:10] <ShorTie> i just go by the printed label .. :/~
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[13:10] <reds> Aand here goes my ~65d weechat uptime
[13:11] <reds> CRAP.
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[13:17] <gordonDrogon> reds, have you got a Pi yet?
[13:17] <gordonDrogon> oops, red9 ...
[13:18] <red9> gordonDrogon, A borrowed one.
[13:18] <gordonDrogon> red9, ok.
[13:18] <gordonDrogon> red9, just trying to think of a scenario where a cluster of 126 Pi's might be useful for anything.
[13:19] <gordonDrogon> 4 is an academic excercise, but more than that - there are much better/faster solutions.
[13:20] <reds> gordonDrogon: since 2012.. :P
[13:20] <gordonDrogon> https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/cluster-hat
[13:20] * ShorTie Thinkz, ask shiftplusone where his cluster is
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[13:23] <ShorTie> that is a nifty hat
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[13:45] <k_sze> Seems like upgrading raspberrypi-ui-mods is broken?
[13:46] <k_sze> I got this message: "chown: cannot access '/home/k_sze/oldconffiles': No such file or directory"
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[13:59] <gordonDrogon> it's probably hard-wired to /home/pi )-:
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[14:18] <red9> What would it cost to make RPi2 circuit board (no components) in say 10 copies?
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[14:25] <gordonDrogon> it's 6 layer IIRC.
[14:25] <gordonDrogon> so more than a typical 2 layer.
[14:25] <gordonDrogon> the last batch of 2-layer PCBs I had made was about $35 for 10 from what I recall.
[14:27] <red9> gordonDrogon, Know how high precision those circuit tracks and pads need?
[14:28] <red9> DRAM <--> CPU has tendency for tight margins, same for S-ATA etc
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[14:51] <gordonDrogon> red9, no idea - not my field, really. I mostly make ATmega type stuff which is no-where near as critical as dram.
[14:52] <gordonDrogon> red9, what's your plan? You'll never be able to source the Pi SoC ...
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[15:03] <EraserPencil> Hi! I am configuring my Jessie LIte
[15:03] <Lartza> Why jessie?
[15:03] <EraserPencil> I'm having trouble configuring my keyboard at the raspi-config
[15:04] <EraserPencil> why not?
[15:04] <Lartza> EraserPencil, Because stretch is released?
[15:04] <Lartza> Jessie is an old release
[15:05] <EraserPencil> ahh my bad. I'm on stretch lite
[15:05] <EraserPencil> What's the normal US standard keyboard layout on the raspi-config menu
[15:06] <Lartza> It should be selected by default
[15:06] <Lartza> en should work just fine
[15:07] <EraserPencil> I think I got the UK version.
[15:07] <EraserPencil> my # key is showing the pound sign
[15:07] <gordonDrogon> is your # key above the 3?
[15:07] <EraserPencil> yes
[15:08] <gordonDrogon> ok, you need to set to a US keyboard layout.
[15:08] <EraserPencil> would you know which it is on the raspi-config localisation menu
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[15:09] <gordonDrogon> no idea - I'm in the UK.
[15:09] <EraserPencil> My default is the "Generic 105-key (Intl) PC
[15:10] <EraserPencil> crap.. I really need the # key to do anything on the CLI
[15:10] <EraserPencil> I need a brexit :)
[15:10] <gordonDrogon> well stop bleating on about it and google it!
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[15:11] <gordonDrogon> try this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
[15:11] <gordonDrogon> first google hit.
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[15:14] <gordonDrogon> and/or this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-layout
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[15:23] <EraserPencil> that didnt help unfortunately
[15:23] <EraserPencil> But I have it figured out. Google was moot surprisingly
[15:25] <EraserPencil> and I wanna get advise on setting up static ip.
[15:25] <EraserPencil> which guide is a better guide to follow?
[15:25] <EraserPencil> https://www.modmypi.com/blog/how-to-give-your-raspberry-pi-a-static-ip-address-update
[15:25] <EraserPencil> https://www.modmypi.com/blog/tutorial-how-to-give-your-raspberry-pi-a-static-ip-address
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[15:33] <BurtyB> EraserPencil, sadly the first one
[15:33] <EraserPencil> could you explain? if its not much trouble
[15:34] <Lartza> >ifconfig
[15:34] <Lartza> pls
[15:34] <Lartza> when was this written
[15:34] <BurtyB> EraserPencil, follow the first url one not the second. if you follow the second you will read the notice at the top that says don't do this
[15:34] <Lartza> 18-03-2016
[15:35] <BurtyB> long live ifconfig!
[15:35] <Lartza> come on modmypi
[15:35] <Lartza> BurtyB, It doesn't work! ://
[15:35] <BurtyB> what doesn't work
[15:35] <Lartza> ifconfig has bugs
[15:35] <Lartza> because ip
[15:35] <BurtyB> shocker
[15:36] <BurtyB> there was a new release recently with probably even more bugs so beware ;)
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[15:37] <red9> gordonDrogon, The plan is for directly wired Ethernet which the BCM28xx circuits don't seem to support. Unless it's hidden somewhere on some unused pad.. If it can be done in dual configuration, even better for routing. Then deal with power so it uses SMPS and a better connector than USB. Maybe skipping on some features to cut price down. Standby powwer should be in the µA range with automatic wakeup. Wireless option, not integration. I/
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[15:38] <red9> gordonDrogon, Maybe one can replace the GPU with a FPGA to get open source 3D accelerated graphics.
[15:39] <gordonDrogon> red9, so basically an ARM SoC that's not the Pi one - you really won't get a Pi one.
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[15:39] <gordonDrogon> red9, if you want *all* the signals from the BCM28xx SoC then you can use a CM3 compute module.
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[15:44] <BurtyB> sounds like a deep pocket project
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[15:48] <red9> gordonDrogon, do the CM3 have RMII or MII interface in the edge connector?
[15:49] <gordonDrogon> I've really no idea - why not look it up for yourself ...
[15:49] <red9> BurtyB, Well not really. The only catch is usually number of layers in the circuit board.
[15:50] <EraserPencil> works well! thanks guys
[15:50] <gordonDrogon> red9, personally, I think you're chasing wild geese. If there were better ethernet interfaces in the SoC, then they'd be used.
[15:50] <gordonDrogon> and I'm sure there are better/cheaper ARM SoCs for doing what you're after.
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[15:53] <red9> Well if I would make single board module. The BCM28xx is not necessarily the best choice. Though hardware h.264 encoder support and community is nice. But as for networking etc, it lacks in capability.
[15:53] <gordonDrogon> it was designed as a set-top-box SoC.
[15:53] <red9> I thought if you suggested CM3 that it had RMII/MII.
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[15:56] <red9> Had a look at CM3 connector https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/computemodule/RPI-CM-DATASHEET-V1_0.pdf and it doesn't seems to contain any Ethernet facility. So no gain.
[15:57] <red9> Just being able to run standard unix (ie MMU) and having direct access to lots of gpio for really low price is worth a lot. RPi has left that market.
[15:57] <BurtyB> red9, on pi you're looking at usb or sdio for ethernet
[15:58] <mfa298> red9: the BCM SoCs used by all the Pi family don't have onboard ethernet so won't have any RMII/MII interfaces. Maybe the Pi4 will but we'll only know that when it get released sometime in the next decade.
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[15:58] <BurtyB> red9, rpi is in the education marked all others are just there by luck... and $5 for 28 gpio isn't bad imho
[16:02] <red9> yeah, the rpi-z is an interesting product.
[16:03] <red9> BurtyB, The problem with usb and sdio is that they are so slow and waste clock cycles.
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[16:04] <mfa298> red9: at a guess, as you're asking these questions what you're trying to do will be beyond your skillset.
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[16:05] <red9> the rpi-z have actually a powerful bus between the wlan chip and the SoC. Maybe it can be used for other comms too.
[16:06] <gordonDrogon> what's an rpi-z ?
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[16:06] <mfa298> red9: the wifi on the zeroW and Pi3 uses the SDIO bus - they thing you just suggested it too slow for whatever it is you're trying to do.
[16:06] <gordonDrogon> if you mean the zero, then ^
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[16:10] <red9> mfa298, I guess I'll read the schematics wrong then. It was a very quick look actually. Ie is it worthwhile to even look into it.
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[16:11] <gordonDrogon> red9, give up at this point.
[16:11] <mfa298> red9: not knowing what you're trying to do, or your skill level I can't say what's worthwhile for you.
[16:12] <mfa298> but based on your questions I suspect you're wanting to do something that's beyond your skills
[16:12] <gordonDrogon> echoing what was said earlier - it really does seem like your skill level might not be up to it. Plenty of ambition though, don't turn that down, but have realistic goals.
[16:16] <red9> I have only done some superficial investigations as to what the rpi's can do. Ie what the hardware is capable of. That is not the same as capacity as have not been that engaged with the rpi stuff in depth.
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[16:21] <gordonDrogon> The Pi platform is nearly 6 years old now.
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[16:29] <rminol> hello ocat
[16:29] <rminol> hello octa
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[16:32] <red9> gordonDrogon, Sure but I have other things that engaged me.
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[18:00] <pwillard> Red9 it sounds like you just want one of these... http://www.banana-pi.org/r1.html
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[18:01] <Fr0stBit> Hello :)
[18:02] <red9> pwillard, cost?
[18:03] <Fr0stBit> I have access to an rpi with ssh, how can i start an X session and vnc server to connect to its desktop remotely?
[18:03] <red9> very short: xinit ; Xvnc
[18:04] <red9> beware of security issues, especielly with VNC.
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[18:04] <red9> s/especielly/especially/
[18:07] <red9> Seems the Banana-Pi R1 cost ~110 US$.
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[18:10] <red9> Though it seems it really only have 2x Ethernet ports. The rest is a switch so individual routing per port is not possible.
[18:10] <red9> pwillard, thanks for the tip btw. Interesting design.
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[18:11] <pwillard> Well, its pretty close to what you were wanting to make yourself... and if the $100 cost is problem... then really... there is no way you were going to DIY this one and have it be cheaper.
[18:12] <gruetzkopf> those switches are usually not quite dumb
[18:12] <gruetzkopf> and support port-based VLAN
[18:12] <red9> The point being to be able to fine tune firewall and packet forwarding per port. Or even dedicate ports to low level packet tricks for special hardware. Something ordinary switches usually won't do.
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[18:13] <red9> Per port VLAN, nice.
[18:13] <gruetzkopf> even the switches in the usual 20€ wifi routers are pretty nice once you get rid of the stock firmware
[18:14] <red9> gruetzkopf, yeah .. catch is being able to get drivers working ;)
[18:15] <gruetzkopf> the qualcomm/atheros 7xxx series is well-supported, but a bit slow
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[18:16] <red9> If talking not designated managed switches (with console etc). Maybe modern switching chip are better than just establishing a MAC<->port cache table and letting all traffic everywhere?
[18:17] <pwillard> You can get a used WRT-54 at local GoodWill (Poor man's radio shack) for like $9
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[18:18] <red9> Can one control traffic between ports on a WRT-54?
[18:19] <tga> yes
[18:19] <tga> iirc they are bridged in software
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[18:21] <red9> that would mean slow.. if the CPU have to handle traffic between VLAN's ?
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[18:22] <ali1234> they are not sftware bridged
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[18:23] <tga> then why do I remember bridging options in openwrt
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[18:24] <ali1234> because the switch controller chip is connected to the SoC on i2c or spi
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[18:24] <red9> tga, to many late nights with "god%&/ why won't &( work!?" ;-)
[18:24] <tga> https://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/linksys/wrt54g#switch_ports_for_vlans_-_wrt54g_v4_wrt54gs_v3
[18:24] <red9> and then "ah!"
[18:25] <tga> ok, smart switch, not software bridging
[18:25] <red9> So can the WRT54 thing say Port-1 can connect port 25 to Port-2 and nothing else?
[18:25] <tga> I guess what I remembered was that the ports were usable individually, it's not just a router and a dumb switch in the same box
[18:26] <ali1234> no, it is ARP switching
[18:26] <ali1234> it does not know about TCP/IP ports
[18:26] <ali1234> only mac addresses
[18:26] <red9> that's the kind of thing I like to control
[18:26] <ali1234> that's why they can put it in cheap routers
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[18:28] <red9> What do you mean be ARP switching?
[18:28] <tga> well technically I think you can do software routing to achieve that behaviour
[18:28] <tga> if it's possible to separate ports, then nothing stopping you for routing between them
[18:29] <tga> and firewalling appropriately
[18:29] <ali1234> you now the difference between a switch and a hub?
[18:29] <red9> yeh
[18:29] <ali1234> in order to function a switch needs to know what is connected to each port
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[18:30] <ali1234> so it hs to have a certain amount of intelligence
[18:30] <red9> So by ARP switching you mean that it creates a ARP<->port table. And then only forward ethernet packets accordingly?
[18:30] <ali1234> pretty much
[18:30] <tga> you got it
[18:30] <tga> that's a switch
[18:30] <ali1234> you can segregate ports
[18:31] <red9> I would not involve ARP really in it ;)
[18:31] <ali1234> so for example you can say anything connected to 1 or 2 can talk to each other, and same for 3 & 4
[18:31] <ali1234> but 1 can't see 3
[18:31] * tga is curious how you would do it without arp
[18:31] <ali1234> well simple VLANs like the above dont need ARP
[18:32] <tga> so this makes an old wrt a really cheap managed switch?
[18:32] <ali1234> sort of, but a real managed switch can do more complex things
[18:32] <red9> tga, Well it should be able to update the ARP-port table using passive ARP listening. But I would not call it switching based on ARP really.
[18:32] <ali1234> like VLAN tagging, up to full IP firewall
[18:33] <tga> switches do ip firewalling?
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[18:33] <ali1234> real managed one do
[18:33] <tga> nice
[18:33] <red9> managed switches.. well they are way above plain switching ;)
[18:33] <ali1234> but they cost $100s
[18:34] <ali1234> even if you buy a simple 8 port switch, chances are it uses a switch chip that has at least basic VLAN functionality
[18:34] <ali1234> but in order to use it you have to solder wires on the switch chip
[18:34] <red9> Preferable the switch receive packets with hardware. Let the SoC examine the header. And then sends it out appropietale, again using hardware.
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[18:35] <red9> oh my spelling.. ;)
[18:37] <red9> even if you have switch chip with VLAN capability. It will still send the whole packet into the SoC for processing, and then reverse the process. Incurring a slow system performance and huge load on the processor?
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[18:40] <ktokko> how are those raspberry pi cases that come bundled with a fan on amazon? does plugging the fun into the pi-3b affect any other components/connectivity - i have a 2.5A-5,1v power supply
[18:42] <ktokko> one other question: anyone have a bitcoin wallet running on the pi-3b (e.g. electrum), was curious how the two handled, for personal on-demand use only (via raspbian OS standard install)
[18:45] <H4ndy> If you dont run your pi on 100% load 24/7 you dont need a fan on it
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[18:51] <tga> if you don't run it at all you don't even need a power source
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[18:57] <red9> tga, That saves a lot of power :p ;-)
[18:59] <peerce> most 5V fans need 1-2 amps themselves, I doubt they'd work on a uSB supply along with the pi itself, which needs 2A
[18:59] <peerce> i mean,t at least 1-2 amps
[18:59] <red9> 4A is it I'll guess.
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[19:01] <red9> 2A for the Pi, 2A for the fan.
[19:02] <red9> Motors use 10x rated current at startup.
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[19:19] <stiv> 1-2 amps for a 5v fan sounds high
[19:20] * BurtyB was thinking htat too unless you're flying it ;)
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[19:21] <stiv> like a usb-powered quadcopter? which would be totally cool
[19:22] <peerce> stiv; 1A at 5V is 5 watts.
[19:22] <peerce> thats not a very powerful fan
[19:23] <stiv> certainly true
[19:24] <ali1234> PC fans are about 1W
[19:24] <stiv> can't fault the math. but we are talking about little punk-ass computer cooling fans
[19:25] <BurtyB> the 0.2A fan I have on my pi3 keeps it cool enough not to throttle when maxing the cpu out
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[20:38] <Fr0stBit> I'm trying for quite some time to change the raspberry pi 2 VNC resolution without success. I've tried changing the framebuffer configuration and the hdmi mode from config.txt and nothing.
[20:38] <Fr0stBit> Any ideas?
[20:43] -christel- [Global Notice] Hi all, we will be migrating services (NickServ, ChanServ and friends) to a new server in roughly half an hour. There will be a brief downtime, and you may wish to op yourself before they go down. Staff will be around during the move should you have any issues. Thank you.
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[23:17] <Fr0stBit> Just found a problem. When experimental OpenGL driver is enabled, resolution is not set when starting X
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[23:17] <Fr0stBit> Any idea why?
[23:17] <Fr0stBit> I need to both add it and set it using xrandr
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[23:39] <RoyK> What would you suggest for having a few pi's streaming data to a central server? http? some rtp thing? nfs mounts?
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[23:43] * ShorTie wonders, why note just use sumfin better .. :/~
[23:43] <RoyK> video, that is
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[23:45] <ShorTie> or like from camera's ??
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