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IRC Log for 2018-01-06

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[0:00] <AntiComposite> r0n0x, Over the internet or just on your LAN?
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[0:00] <r0n0x> well, i already have a DDNS service so, i can probably connect to it over internet anyway, but, just network is fine
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[0:01] <r0n0x> though on my network devices are prone to having non-constant IPs
[0:01] <r0n0x> so, need a fixed name, just on the network
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[0:02] <AntiComposite> Avahi works quite well in that situation, especially if you're connecting from a Linux box or a Mac
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[0:03] <Lartza> Bonjour provides avahi on Windows aswell and needs mere installing
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[0:05] <r0n0x> ty, looking into those, but, why do i have to install on a windows machine?
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[0:07] <r0n0x> will i need to do anything different in order to access over the internet?
[0:07] <r0n0x> this is for an MQTT broker hosted on the raspberry pi
[0:07] <AntiComposite> Multicast DNS only works over the local network, and shouldn't affect any WAN connections.
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[0:09] <r0n0x> so, what do i do to connect over the internet? i recall i managed to use my ddns to connect to my esp8266 one time
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[0:11] <r0n0x> i think the esp just has a value "host" you can set for this sort of thing
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[0:15] <Lartza> r0n0x, Because Linux usually has avahi already that handles these but Windows doesn't
[0:15] <AntiComposite> Installing software on Linux is less of an ordeal than on Windows, in my opinion
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[0:16] <r0n0x> oh ok
[0:16] <Lartza> Only if you are using a "bleeding edge" distro or are happy with the versions your distro provides :P
[0:16] <r0n0x> im not running windows on the rpi, forgot it could and some people do
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[0:16] <Lartza> r0n0x, No no the LAN computer...
[0:17] <Lartza> It needs to discover the hostname from your network from the pi
[0:17] <Lartza> and needs avahi on linux or bonjour on windows for that
[0:17] <r0n0x> then this may not be the right way
[0:17] <Lartza> then you can access it with "hostname.local"
[0:17] <r0n0x> host name might not mean what i think it means
[0:17] <Lartza> what do you think it means?
[0:18] <r0n0x> basically a substitute for entering the local IP which i can access as a subdomain or something of my public IP
[0:18] <Lartza> not public IP but lan IP
[0:18] <Lartza> dynamic dns is for the public ip
[0:19] <Lartza> or well a domain name
[0:19] <r0n0x> yes, thats it
[0:19] <Lartza> every computer has a hostname, your pi probably has something like "pi" or "raspberrypi" or "raspbian"
[0:20] <r0n0x> yeah, host name is literally the device name lol
[0:20] <Lartza> if you were to install bonjour on windows you should be able to access your pi with "raspberrypi.local" or something
[0:20] <r0n0x> it was domain name i need XD
[0:20] <Lartza> that will be automatically made available for you through the local network discovery
[0:21] <Lartza> you could also just edit the hosts files of your computers to point at the LAN IP of your pi with any name you want
[0:21] <Lartza> although you'd have to have the lan IP of the pi stay static
[0:21] <Lartza> Which isn't hard though
[0:21] <r0n0x> yeah but then how do i get arduinos, phones, etc to connect
[0:22] <r0n0x> its no use if every device that needs to connect needs special software
[0:22] <AntiComposite> iOS or Android?
[0:22] <r0n0x> neither
[0:22] <r0n0x> no OS
[0:22] <r0n0x> arduino
[0:22] <Lartza> phones have an OS
[0:22] <r0n0x> arduinos dont
[0:22] <Lartza> android should be able to discover the zeroconf address
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[0:23] <Lartza> why can't you use the IP on an arduino?
[0:23] <r0n0x> i can, but it changes
[0:23] <Lartza> So make it not change?
[0:23] <r0n0x> like, even my local ones
[0:23] <Lartza> Yes, make them not change
[0:23] <AntiComposite> Do you have access to your router's config page?
[0:23] <r0n0x> yes
[0:24] <Lartza> Define static leases in the router config page or make the pi not use DHCP
[0:24] <Lartza> simple as that
[0:24] <r0n0x> the point however is that this should be something trivial to do
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[0:24] <Lartza> it is
[0:24] <AntiComposite> ^
[0:24] <r0n0x> yes but not defined externally
[0:24] <Lartza> ?
[0:24] <Lartza> What do you mean?
[0:24] <AntiComposite> r0n0x, What problem are you trying to solve?
[0:25] <r0n0x> on my esp8266 i can give it its own domain name with literally a single line of code and it will work that way on any network its connected to
[0:25] <Lartza> uhhh
[0:25] <r0n0x> dont have to touch the router, or install software
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[0:25] <Lartza> what kind of a domain name?
[0:26] <Lartza> mhh the esp8266 announces itself through avahi afaict so you get esp8266.local on every PC that has avahi or bonjour installed...
[0:27] <Lartza> *through mDNS
[0:27] <AntiComposite> ^
[0:27] <AntiComposite> The way to do the *exact same thing* on the pi is install avahi.
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[0:28] <Lartza> ^ avahi will then announce that address with no even single line of code to add
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[0:28] <Lartza> Windows is stupid and won't understand mDNS out of the box and needs Bonjour, all linux distros should get it without installing anything
[0:28] <Lartza> the esp8266 can't do magic
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[0:30] <r0n0x> the link i followed (cant find my source file ) was along the lines of myddnsname.ddns.net/espname
[0:30] <r0n0x> maybe
[0:30] <r0n0x> god damnit i cant believe i didnt save it
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[0:30] <r0n0x> anyway, i got avahi, im looking into mDNS now
[0:30] <Lartza> as in, you needed to install a ddns library for the esp8266, then import it, then add code to call the ddns service with a name
[0:30] <AntiComposite> avahi is an implementation of mDNS
[0:31] <Lartza> doesn't sound like a "single line of code to add"
[0:31] <Lartza> also ddns isn't necessarily local network although it can be
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[0:32] <AntiComposite> But it doesn't sound like you're running your own DNS server, so that seems unlikely.
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[0:35] <r0n0x> so, is there any reason it needs to be set as a *.local domain?
[0:35] <Lartza> kind of, and that's automatic
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[0:43] <r0n0x> so, ive set up the hostname and all that. cant ping the pi from command prompt though
[0:43] <AntiComposite> Could you ping the other device the same way?
[0:44] <r0n0x> the esp, yes
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[0:44] <r0n0x> its basically a webserver
[0:44] <AntiComposite> You installed avahi on the pi?
[0:44] <r0n0x> was already installed and i confirmed its running
[0:45] <Lartza> ddns != the same way though
[0:45] <Lartza> you would have needed to use mdns on the esp and then use hostname.local
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[0:46] <r0n0x> how do i connect to it using my ddns service name
[0:48] <Lartza> you setup a dyndns service on it to bind the local IP to a dynamic dns name of yours and then use that name on computers that have DNS configured
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[0:49] <r0n0x> i mean through my existing service
[0:49] <r0n0x> like, its address through the public IP
[0:49] <Lartza> Uh?
[0:49] <Lartza> "existing service"?
[0:50] <Lartza> also I meant dyndns client not service, my bad
[0:50] <r0n0x> as in not its own special DDNS, i already have one
[0:51] <r0n0x> you know, i really should first try installing mosquitto
[0:51] <Lartza> right
[0:51] <Lartza> so install a ddns client on the pi and have that assign the IP
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[0:52] <r0n0x> im trying to look that up but all im finding are the actual service clients
[0:53] <r0n0x> hmm
[0:53] <Lartza> service clients?
[0:53] <Lartza> What's wrong with them?
[0:53] <r0n0x> whole new service
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[0:58] <Lartza> Huh?
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[0:59] <r0n0x> i guess for this i technically dont even need a ddns
[0:59] <Lartza> you don't no, avahi and bonjour can handle this inside lan with mDNS
[0:59] <r0n0x> i just want to know how to connect to the pi through the public IP
[0:59] <Lartza> uhhh
[0:59] <Lartza> that's now something completely different that you have been asking so far
[0:59] <r0n0x> it is?
[0:59] <Lartza> if I understand correctly
[1:00] <Lartza> public IP usually means the IP your router has to the internet
[1:00] <Lartza> not the LAN ip of the pi
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[1:00] <r0n0x> i got me esp connected now, should be able to grab the url format i was looking for
[1:01] <Lartza> I don't even know what you are trying to do anymore possibly
[1:01] <Lartza> and why a ddns client is "whole new service", because it definitely isn't
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[1:06] <r0n0x> another service i have to pay money for
[1:07] <r0n0x> anyway i think i figured it out
[1:07] <r0n0x> i had to connect to a specific port
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[1:07] <Lartza> https://www.noip.com/download?page=linux isn't for instance
[1:07] <Lartza> But I still don't even know what you are exactly trying to do anymore
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[1:08] <Lartza> I need to get some sleep now though, good luck
[1:10] <r0n0x> thanks for the help so far
[1:10] <r0n0x> and sorry
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[1:11] <r0n0x> i think i should maybe focus more on getting mosquitto running before i worry about other stuff, plus i bet it probably has something for this anyway
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[1:48] <caoliver> Here's to tossing a cat among the pigeon: has anyone here played with a pocketbeagle yet?
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[2:17] <ring0> \o/
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[2:33] <lll> i now know what i wanna do with mosquitto and etc
[2:33] <lll> i need to do shit on specific ports
[2:34] <lll> the way i would normally access my esp8266 for example is going to [myddnsurl]:8010
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[2:34] <lll> currently installing mosquitto, setting it up
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[2:35] <lll> but basically thats how id like to at least have all the sub/pubs contact the pi
[2:35] <lll> unless its not neccesary
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[2:55] <r3> I'm well aquainted with the Rpi2 and Rpi3, but never a Zero
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[2:59] <lll> they are literally all the same thing
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[3:00] <lll> zeros are annoying though
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[3:01] <lll> they dont have , good/any regulation on board and while they have two usb ports, only one handles data
[3:01] <lll> though if you got a zero, odds are it was never going to be used like you would the standard forms
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[3:05] <stiv> horses for courses, as they used to say. the use case for a zero is different from a pi3
[3:05] <stiv> (or a beaglebone)
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[3:07] <lll> the differences is in peripheral specs, quantity and computing power
[3:08] <r3> hrm, looks like Noobs 2.2 is installing the GUI by default. Will have to find a different image to put just the CLI on there.
[3:08] <lll> and thus with the higher end ones, you have things you can do on them because they have the ram/cpu
[3:08] <lll> CLI?
[3:08] <r3> command line interface
[3:08] <lll> you want the console only
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[3:08] <r3> non-gui
[3:09] <lll> you can just boot into that only
[3:09] <r3> aye, I am trying to remember if I can uninstall all the GUI or not
[3:09] <r3> (reclaim space)
[3:09] <lll> ah
[3:09] <lll> well, you could just try installing jessie lite
[3:09] <r3> as space on the Zero is more important since it doesn't have a NIC.
[3:10] <lll> or is it important its installed
[3:10] <lll> as opposed to just written to the memory card
[3:10] <r3> no, I would rather not have it, but now that I think of it, the only way to interact with it is via USB ... as opposed to me ssh into the Rpi2 and Rpi3 running here
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[3:11] <r3> so maybe I'll keep the GUI for now - we'll see
[3:11] <lll> oh, you got a zero without wifi, so sad
[3:11] <ShorTie> i'd scrub noobs and go with lite
[3:11] <lll> lite unpacks to 1.8gb however
[3:11] <r3> lll: no, the application I have in mind for it I didn't want WiFi
[3:11] <lll> thats the img size
[3:12] <lll> ah
[3:12] <r3> next time I will order a Zero W
[3:12] <lll> i was gonna suggest serial coms but you already said that XD
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[3:13] <r3> hrm, that gives me an idea - I have a Serial<-->TCP adapter box here, that would enable me to telnet to it at least
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[3:13] <r3> heh
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[3:14] <ShorTie> you could get a spi nic for it
[3:14] <r3> now that's an interesting thought
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[3:14] <r3> will have to think on it some - cheers for tonight all :) thanks
[3:15] <r0n0x> serial over usb i meant
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[3:44] <r3> so I finished the installation of Pixel on the Pi Zero and wanted to make a checkpoint image of that MicroSD card, so I put it into a Debian install here on another system and I can't seem to find a filesystem on it? It boots fine... and was able to see it as /dev/sdb before I went through the initial setup - what am I missing?
[3:45] <ronoxx> motherfucker
[3:45] <ronoxx> full raspbian boots faster than jessie lite
[3:46] <Maai> youngsters in bed in UK so i cannot complain rono ;)
[3:47] <Maai> ronoxx: explain why you think raspian boots longer(?)
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[3:49] <ShorTie> r3 started with noobs ??
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[3:51] <r3> hrm, something is up with the reader on the debian system - my bad - nevermind :)
[3:52] <r3> there it is
[3:52] <ShorTie> ok, because noobs would have it in an extended partition
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[3:54] <r3> aye, it just wasn't seeing /dev/sdb so I was like - what?
[3:55] <r3> (it did before, like with a fresh SD image on it, so backed that up, then proceeded to do the noobs setup of Raspian/Pixel, shut it down, put it back in the Debian system and ... no /dev/sdb. I thought I had sorted out the MicroSD adapter strangeness once and for all, but it seems this unit isn't as reliable as I thought)
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[4:03] <ronoxx> Maai, i said it boots faster
[4:04] <ronoxx> jessie vs jessie light (assuming regular raspbian is jessie)
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[5:28] <Grorco> hi I was wondering if anyone could help me figure out how to send audio out to audio in with ubuntu mate on my rpi 3
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[5:57] <Maai> Grorco: would that be anything related to desktop/audio settings?
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[5:58] <Maai> no expert but it's something to talk further about!
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[6:06] <Maai> i should install a partition for Unbuntu and check it out. raspbian is X
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[6:09] <Ben64> theres no point to ubuntu on pi
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[6:17] <Syliss> Ubuntu doesn't ever need to be on a pi, lol
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[6:18] <Maai> the raspberrypi is a learning tool so no need for bells and whistles
[6:18] <Maai> ?
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[6:19] <noregret> can anyone recommend an outdoor enclosure for a pi? pi0 or pi3 or both
[6:19] <Syliss> No, raspbian is based off the same sub, Debian, which ubuntu is too. Better to stick with what is optimized for it.
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[6:20] <Maai> cool
[6:21] <Syliss> Ubuntu isn't bells and whistles anymore either. I've been using ubuntu on and off since warty warthog. It's just heavy handed and they keep messing the desktop ui up.
[6:22] <Maai> unbuntu in my past readings was for new comers
[6:22] <Maai> debian is _complicated_
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[6:23] <Maai> Windows was a brilliant hand to hold but learnt of nothing about the computer
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[6:24] <Syliss> Windows can be powerful. But it really depends on what you are planning to do or learn.
[6:25] <Syliss> I'm also a heavy OS X/macOS user. I really don't hate on any of them. They each have their uses.
[6:26] <Maai> whatever you get your hands on
[6:27] <Syliss> Yep.
[6:28] <Syliss> For work I manly deal with windows and Linux. Personal and stuff is Linux and Mac.
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[6:30] <Syliss> I have a thing for puppy Linux and slax. Both have changed soooooo much in the last 5 years.
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[6:31] <Syliss> I likes when bodhi was on pi. Was stoked. But most have dropped arm dev. Sux.
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[6:32] <Maai> my linux life...
[6:32] <Maai> lots of learning but no doing
[6:33] <Maai> i am GLAD the shutdown button is easy to find
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[6:33] <Maai> otherwise it would be on for a year
[6:34] <Maai> p.o.w.a
[6:35] <Syliss> Lol. The pi has no shutoff switch...
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[6:37] <Syliss> I had my first pi sitting under my desk at work on for like a year or so before I took it back home. No reboots and was running great the whole time.
[6:37] <Syliss> And it's one of the first 10k
[6:37] <Syliss> So 256mb ram.
[6:39] <mlelstv> cat feeding first
[6:39] <mlelstv> oops
[6:40] <Maai> this is most likely the cheapest computer power wise
[6:41] <Maai> compared to an imac i had before
[6:43] <Syliss> It's getting better every rev.
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[6:47] <Maai> my first goal was printing ACT light acitivity to file or terminal, but i'm not finding the right info.
[6:47] <Maai> i see figured but no text information
[6:47] <Maai> figures*
[6:56] <Comet> Syliss haha nice. they're solid for sure. i had one runnin' at work as well. one day i had to relocate offices. luckily the Pi was plugged in a battery backup. just moved the whole dang thing down the hall, and she kept on running for another few months before I took it home haha.
[6:57] <Comet> get some serious uptime on those thingies. had it running a local ircd for the office mates haha.
[7:00] <Syliss> Yeah. I was using it as a seed box.
[7:06] <Syliss> I love them. I have 2 pi0 and 2 pi3 too.
[7:07] <Comet> i'm trying to get a decent project box of some sort, to make a custom case.
[7:08] <Comet> i don't really know much about 3d printing, and there aren't any pre-made cases for what i need.
[7:08] <Syliss> I was using a plastic card case from a deck of cards for a while. Had to cut it to fit the ports.
[7:08] <Comet> but big enough to fit a 5" touchscreen, stacked on top of the Pi
[7:09] <Comet> haha perhaps i'll just find an old shoe box
[7:09] <Syliss> Lol
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[7:18] <Maai> i am so in love with something i don't understand
[7:18] <Maai> computer screens and music are part way
[7:18] <Maai> like the gate entrance to a grand house
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[7:26] <Maai> ... that and experimenting
[7:28] <Syliss> Lol
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[7:46] <Maai> i did look at using panda3d.1.10 to make a 3d game. it was not available for the rasp
[7:47] <Maai> anyone with experience with 3d on the PI??
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[8:53] <noregret> can anyone recommend an outdoor enclosure for a pi0/pi3?
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[11:45] <jancoow> Hi!
[11:45] <ShorTie> Good Morning
[11:45] <jancoow> So anyone ever tried hyperion-X11 on a raspberry pi?
[11:45] <jancoow> I know it works well on my desktop pc with 25fps
[11:46] <jancoow> But not sure if it will work on a raspberry pi + playing video in kodi for example
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[13:08] <doodle> Hell9
[13:08] <doodle> Hello
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[13:10] <doodle> I have a question. Right Now i am running my pi as a pihole but wanting to switch to using pfsense for dns blocking and vpn. After this is like to set up my pi as a seedbox with a cascading vpn through my router vpn.
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[13:10] <doodle> Would this make any sense or is it just unnecessary for minimal security increase?
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[13:29] <doodle> Anyone?
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[13:54] <doodle> Thanks for your help niggers
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[14:41] <GrandPa-G> Is anyone here today that is good with gpio, in particular event callback? I can't figure out why my callbacks sometimes work and others don't.
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[14:54] <r3> GrandPa-G: a friend was having a similar issue and told me "there is only one thread used for callbacks, in which every callback is run, in the order in which they have been defined" - so I think he had too many, and they were being missed. He showed me this website: [ https://sourceforge.net/p/raspberry-gpio-python/wiki/Inputs/ ]
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[14:56] <GrandPa-G> r3:thanks. I did know that. I have a setup where the pin is tied to a switch that goes off about every 1 sec. If I start my program first and then allow the switch to send, the callback works. If I start the switch first and then the program, the program never gets callback.
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[14:58] <r3> maybe something as simple as debouncing the switch would help? Also sounds maybe as if the switch is in a different state if started first - so are you catching the event with just a transition from low to high, high to low, or either?
[14:58] <r3> "GPIO.RISING" from that website
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[15:00] <r3> if maybe you change it to "GPIO.BOTH" it would sense whenever the switch changes (low to high - or - high to low) rather than in one direction
[15:00] <GrandPa-G> I have a debounce time on the callback. I would think that if I do both, then I will get 2 callbacks.
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[15:02] <r3> both just means that the event will fire when *any* transition is made - not just from low to high (rising) or high to low (falling) - can you try it out and see? It does sound like when you start the switch first, it is in the wrong state so the initial transition is never sensed. Or you could set the state of the switch at the start of your program?
[15:04] <GrandPa-G> I think I tried both suggestions. Setting to both on the callback, no help.
[15:04] <r3> I am assuming here that you have a pull-down (or similar) resistor also on that GPIO pin
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[15:04] <GrandPa-G> for now I am using GPIO3 which should take care of that(?)
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[15:05] <r3> well, a pulldown resistor would set the initial state of that pin to low
[15:06] <GrandPa-G> i thought gpio3 has an internal pulldown.
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[15:09] <r3> hrm, I am not sure about that -I would have to look it up. But, from what you are saying, wouldn't you agree that the switch is in the wrong place to be sensed when started first? So say when starting the switch, it goes high. If your program is expecting it to be low, depending on how it is written, it won't see the initial state, and then the rest of the code won't execute.
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[15:10] <GrandPa-G> I would agree except that the probablity of it not being the correct state is 50-50. That would mean it would work sometimes? It never does. And, it works if the switch starts after
[15:10] <r3> so I would try a pullup/pulldown resistor and review your code. I find writing down the variables and states of pins as I step through each line on a piece of paper to be really helpful.
[15:10] <GrandPa-G> I will dig out a resitor and try just to play by the rules.
[15:11] <r3> you could paste your code to pastebin or paste.ee and if I have some time this AM I will try to read through it
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[15:12] <r3> it's tricky because the first thing I would probably do on my workbench is put the switch on the oscilloscope to see what state it is actually in
[15:13] <GrandPa-G> i appreciate the offer. for now I need to go back to basics. I am a coder, not an electron geek, no oscilloscope (even though I really know what one is) Could I put an led in the same circuit as a poor man's way to see if it is going HIGH/LOW?
[15:13] <r3> or a meter?
[15:14] <GrandPa-G> meter I got! should be about 3 v HIGH?
[15:14] <r3> depending on the voltages, yeah, a LED (with resistor to protect it) should flash or give you an indicator of the high/low state
[15:14] <GrandPa-G> I think the code is good, but the setup is bad. Of course coders always blame hardware.
[15:14] <r3> I might be spoiled here with a nice meter that updates quickly - if yours updates fast, it should see the high/low as ~3V/0V
[15:15] <r3> the meter also might have a high/low function that would show you the max/min of the measurement
[15:15] <GrandPa-G> I can change the length the switch is closed
[15:15] <GrandPa-G> meters for $4.95 don't do that
[15:15] <r3> that might also help as if it is super fast (a short pulse) the Pi might not pick it up
[15:16] <r3> your idea of an LED is a good one, just add a resistor with it so it doesn't become a SED.
[15:16] <GrandPa-G> as I said, it works fine if the switch is started later. That is what makes it confusing.
[15:16] <GrandPa-G> thanks for the help. I might be back later.
[15:16] <r3> please do, I will be around and would like to see this solved
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[16:12] <prototron> Hi. I started experimenting with rotary encoders... I can see the input on the first one in a python script. Then I plug the second one... The 3.3V isn't even plug and the same script sees the inputs of it.
[16:12] <prototron> Why?
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[16:13] <BurtyB> which rotary encoder, how are they connected?
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[16:17] <prototron> It's this one: https://www.modmypi.com/raspberry-pi/sensors-1061/rotary-encoders-1112/keyes-rotary-encoder-module/?search=rotary%20encoder
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[16:18] <prototron> It's hooked as explained here: https://www.modmypi.com/blog/how-to-use-a-rotary-encoder-with-the-raspberry-pi
[16:19] <prototron> But I use a breadboard
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[16:22] <gh057> I'm trying to set up a RPi Zero W headless using the usual means (i.e. `touch ssh` and `touch wpa_supplicant.conf` with SSID and password) but it doesn't seem to be taking. Does anyone have any advice before I postpone until I get into work where I have a monitor and keyboard?
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[16:22] <gh057> The only variation that I noticed in the online docs I found was the contents of wpa_supplicant.conf file.
[16:23] <gh057> ... but it wasn't that much variation.
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[16:23] <BurtyB> prototron, are you plugging the second one in parallel or using different pins?
[16:24] <prototron> BurtyB: parallel
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[16:25] <BurtyB> gh057, you now need "ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant" in wpa_supplicant.conf too
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[16:27] <BurtyB> prototron, my guess is it's getting power through the 10k resistors on the other one
[16:28] <prototron> BurtyB: Ok. Well I can live with that :)
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[16:30] <prototron> BurtyB: But the real question is... How do I know which one is doing what? I mean. There will be several rotary encoders in my project and each one serves a different pupose obviously
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[16:31] <prototron> BurtyB: It wouldn't be a problem if I could use different pins, but there are only 1 CLK and 1 DT
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[16:32] <BurtyB> prototron, you'd need to use 2 different pins on the Pi for clk/dt
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[16:36] <prototron> BurtyB: How would that be possible if there is only 1 CLK and 1 DT?
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[16:40] <GrandPa-G> r3:still around?
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[16:45] <prototron> BurtyB: Ahhhh! I got it!
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[17:06] <AHemlocksLie> I'm having an odd SSH issue with my Pi. It neither refuses nor accepts an SSH connection. Attempting to connect doesn't time out, either. I have a vague idea why, but I'm hoping to figure out the specifics so I can keep it from happening again once it clears up.
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[17:10] <prototron> AHemlocksLie: SSH server is enabled on the Pi?
[17:10] <AHemlocksLie> This happened once before. My Pi used to serve a few functions before a system failure that led to a fresh Raspbian install. One of them was a seed box for a private tracker, where I racked up some 200 torrents, all stored on one of two external HDDs. Once I rebuilt the system, I tried to readd all the old torrents so it could go back to seeding. The first time I tried, the SSH connection immediately froze, and I got this connection error.
[17:10] <AHemlocksLie> Went and showered, came back, it worked again
[17:10] <AHemlocksLie> prototron, yes, SSH is enabled
[17:11] <AHemlocksLie> Well, I say connection error, but no error actually occurs. Nothing occurs.
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[17:12] <AHemlocksLie> When it came back up, I connected and found 1/3 of them or so didn't work right due primarily to some permission configuration issues I fixed. Transmission quit at some point, so I reenabled it again, and now it went down again. Two days ago. Again, no errors, no time outs, no connection, just kinda stuck trying
[17:12] <AHemlocksLie> I've got a window up now that's been trying for ~5 minutes, probably a little more. No sense of progress at all. I've left windows up for 20+ minutes for the same thing
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[17:14] <prototron> Could that be a ssh key problem on your side?
[17:14] <prototron> It usually warns though...
[17:15] <AHemlocksLie> Now, what I SUSPECT is happening is the system is getting overloaded. If I recall correctly, the ethernet port shares the USB hub (Pi 3 if it matters), which means it competes against the two external HDDs for bandwidth on the port. It has Transmission attempting to verify probably 50-100 GB of torrents, not sure on the exact amount, and it's got a Bitcoin node attempting to sync on the other HDD, both of which are probably consuming a lot of
[17:15] <AHemlocksLie> the port's bandwidth
[17:15] <prototron> Hmm maybe.
[17:15] <AHemlocksLie> prototron, I've connected before, so the key is functional. The authorized list has not been altered. At least, not by me. And yeah, when it was misconfigured initially, I IMMEDIATELY got an error, and when it couldn't connect before this, it would time out after a minute or two
[17:15] <prototron> Not an expert myself, I came here for help too ;)
[17:16] <prototron> Can you hook it up to a screen to see what happens?
[17:17] <AHemlocksLie> I'm not on the same continent at the moment, so no
[17:17] <prototron> oh ok
[17:18] <AHemlocksLie> Considering the timing of it both times, I figured it'd resolve itself with a little time, but it's been two days, and I'm starting to want to know wtf is going on here
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[17:48] <r3> GrandPa-G: somewhat
[17:55] <GrandPa-G> Do you want to know the problem of being incredably stupid?
[17:56] <Comet> AHemlocksLie might sound strange, but last time i had an SSH prob with it taking a long time to login, it was because of the Pi's hostname not being resolvable
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[17:57] <GrandPa-G> r3:I have developed a simulation program to test the switches (there are 6). It works great. I have 2 pi box connect via gpio. The driver randomly turns on the gpio pin to simulate the switch.
[17:58] <AHemlocksLie> Comet, like the hostname on the local network, or the URL you used to remotely access it? I'm not sure if that's it simply because it worked for a while, then didn't
[17:58] <GrandPa-G> r3:It works great, except ---- I was tired and started running the simulator on the same box as the main program. Really dump. Once I went back to running the 2 seperate boxes all is well.
[17:58] <Comet> AHemlocksLie the local hostname of the Pi, type "hostname" see what it's set to, then add it to /etc/hosts if it's not there already
[17:58] <Comet> restart and see what happens
[17:59] <AHemlocksLie> Comet, will do that if I ever get back in. Currently far from home, so gonna have to try to wait this out
[17:59] <AHemlocksLie> Mainly trying to figure out why it's happening so I can prevent it from happening a third time.
[17:59] <Comet> AHemlocksLie best of luck. i know it's annoying to deal with.
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[18:19] <r3> GrandPa-G: that's great news, I'm glad you got it working!
[18:19] <r3> no worries about being "stupid" - I mean, if we all did everything right all the time we wouldn't learn anything
[18:20] <GrandPa-G> thats why there are erasers on pencils.
[18:20] <r3> heheh
[18:21] <r3> at least it wasn't like an error that I made last month that took out an entire system - it was a single board computer (note the use of 'was') and I connected what I thought was a good fan to the fan connector on the board. Nope. The fan was shorted so I shorted the 12V rail to ground and now it won't POST.
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[18:24] <r3> I had hoped that there was a fuse or something but despite a microscopic examination of the board, I can't find anything wrong with it. Sometimes it's just broke, I guess!
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[18:35] <Comet> here's a question for you folks. I'm recently bought a little touchscreen for my Pi that plugs in to the GPIO header. unfortunately it uses all the pins I need in order to be able to hook up a power switch to turn off/on the whole Pi.. can you still accomplish having a power switch when the GPIO is all used up?
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[18:36] <akk> Comet: It probably doesn't use all the pins, even if the header covers them all.
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[18:36] <Comet> it covers 3/4 of them. and the important ones where a power switch would normally be connected
[18:36] <Lartza> ^ so use any of the free ones for your switch and change them in your shutdown script accordingly
[18:37] <Lartza> Comet, "where a power switch would normally be connected"?
[18:37] <Comet> pins 5 and 6 i believe
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[18:38] <Lartza> 5 is just a regular GPIO pin
[18:38] <Lartza> and 6 is just ground
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[18:38] <Lartza> there is no set place for a power switch, you just have to edit your watcher script accordingly
[18:39] <Lartza> oh wait dtoverlay gpio-shutdown
[18:39] <Lartza> hmm
[18:40] <Comet> i thought in order to physically turn the Pi on, it had to be on pins 5 and 6
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[18:40] <Syliss> Could make a pass thru
[18:40] <Lartza> oh yeah, hmm...
[18:40] <Comet> here's a pic https://imgur.com/vTtMb7P
[18:44] <Lartza> the dtoverlay allows the pin to be configured afaict
[18:44] <Lartza> but powerin on would probably require gpio5 indeed
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[18:44] <Lartza> the other pin doesn't have to be 6 it can be any other ground pin too
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[18:47] <Comet> i wonder if this guy is mistaken: https://howchoo.com/g/mwnlytk3zmm/how-to-add-a-power-button-to-your-raspberry-pi
[18:47] <Comet> he said pins 5 and 6, but it looks like his switch is hooked up to 3 and 4 which is power
[18:49] <Comet> Lartza thanks for the insight. half tempted to just get one of those USB cables with a power switch built-in.
[18:49] <Lartza> That won't work for shutdown though
[18:49] <Comet> it of course won't let me shut down the pi properly, but could at least wake
[18:49] <Comet> yea :|
[18:49] <Lartza> You could use the free gpio pins for shutdown though
[18:50] <Lartza> I'd first figure out if the screen uses pin 5
[18:53] <Lartza> also for power on you can use the RUN pins afaik
[18:53] <Lartza> they are holes next to the end of the gpio
[18:54] <Lartza> it's basically a reset switch
[18:55] <Lartza> (so not suitable for shutdown, because hard reset)
[18:55] <Comet> i know that the screen uses the GPIO only for the touch functionality. it's powered through USB.
[18:56] <Comet> if i determine it doesn't use the pins I need, do you think i'd just need to tap in using the bottom of the GPIO where the solder points are?
[18:57] <akk> That should work, whatever's easiest to access.
[18:57] <Lartza> From the look of the screen that looks easiest yeah
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[18:58] <Comet> install a new set of pins upside down ;-) lol
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[19:01] <m_t> Comet, why not use any GPIO pin and a small shell script like this one: https://github.com/m-thu/sandbox/blob/master/tempcontrol/shutdown.sh ?
[19:02] <Lartza> m_t, Because powering on
[19:03] <m_t> Lartza, I see, didn't know turning it on this way is possible...
[19:04] <Lartza> it is, either shorting the RUN pins or pins 5 and 6 turn the pi on
[19:05] <Comet> i will give the foundation one whole dollar if they just put a dang power switch on all new Pi's
[19:05] <Comet> even a small one
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[19:05] <Comet> haha
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[19:06] <Comet> better yet, like PC mobo's a POWER SW jumper
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[19:06] <Lartza> Not sure it's possible without removing gpio pins though
[19:06] <Lartza> the RUN works and is named that because it connects to the RUN pin of the chip
[19:07] <Lartza> and 5 is just a gpio pin the bootloader watches for
[19:07] <Comet> makes sense.
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[19:08] <Lartza> I mean, could just spin a new SoC so not impossible
[19:08] <Lartza> ;)
[19:08] <Comet> ultimately i'm just trying to figure out a way to stuff all this in a case, and was trying to imagine where the power button would go
[19:08] <Lartza> I just never shut down my Pi, easy that way
[19:08] <Comet> truth. honestly, i've *never* (knock on wood) had a problem unplugging and replugging in the pi
[19:09] <Comet> and i've used every gen Pi to date, reset them hundreds if not thousands of times
[19:09] <Lartza> or you just haven't noticed them
[19:09] <Comet> yea.. the SD card is what would worry me
[19:09] <Comet> corrupting data and whatnot
[19:10] <Lartza> I've managed to do that with just an inadequate PSU
[19:10] <Lartza> and f2fs...
[19:10] <Comet> that's the whole reason i want to make it legit for this particular project.
[19:10] <Comet> it's a synth, and i want to make it turn off and on, like a real electronic instrument
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[19:26] <iEv0lv3__> Who has experience with nohup?
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[19:36] <akk> What sort of experience?
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[19:36] <dadada> hello
[19:37] <dadada> can I use an android's usb-tethering feature to provide internet to a raspberry zero
[19:37] <dadada> =
[19:37] <dadada> ?
[19:38] <akk> That should work in theory, though setting it up might be tricky (I'd like to know how if you get it working).
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[19:48] <dadada> akk: can the zero run on the juice from an android's usb port?
[19:49] <dadada> I mean it needs 1A ... I don't know if the typical smartphone can provide that?!
[19:49] <akk> dadada: I doubt it ... well, you might sometimes get away with it but it doesn't sound very safe for the Pi.
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[19:56] <iEv0lv3__> akk: I am using it as "nohup (program)" because the program open a new terminal, and I needed to read what is spawned. So I used nohup to run it in back, and output to nohup.out. it worked at first, but I had to add an authentication code to use the program. I deleted all the logs from nohup.out, restarted the command, and now nothing shows in the .out file, yet it initiates the program
[19:56] <Comet> dadada: Linux does have support built in for a variety of USB network devices.
[19:56] <Comet> it should show up as such
[19:56] <Comet> plug it in, and check dmesg and the likes to see if it shows up
[19:56] <Comet> and ifconfig.
[19:57] <Comet> arch linux appears to have some devices working. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/android_tethering
[19:57] <akk> iEv0lv3__: That doesn't sound like it's a nohup problem -- nohup just tells the current shell not to kill the new process if the current shell exits.
[19:57] <akk> Might be something else in your command.
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[19:58] <akk> You can use ps to verify whether the process is still running.
[19:58] <Comet> dadada: there are android-tools available as well, i haven't tested them with ARM systems, but i assume it would work on the Pi
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[19:59] <Comet> dadada: and easytether seems to be pretty cool: http://www.mobile-stream.com/easytether/drivers.html
[19:59] <Comet> paid app though :|
[20:00] <iEv0lv3__> It worked fine though. The initial logs I erased, were what would have showed in the programs terminal (telling me to add authtoken). So it worked. Why would adding my authtoken to be signed in, stop the logs from being output?
[20:00] <Comet> requires client software on the phone, and the drivers for the pi
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[20:02] <iEv0lv3__> akk: I did notice user account doesn't have permission to view nohup.out, so maybe I just need to give it permissions? Yet the first time, I could view it from user
[20:03] <akk> iEv0lv3__: Without knowing what your command is or what you're running, I couldn't guess.
[20:03] <akk> All I know is that there's some command that has a nohup in front of it. :)
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[20:04] <iEv0lv3__> "Nohup ngrok tcp 22"
[20:04] <iEv0lv3__> It might be that ngrok runs from root? So user log is blank
[20:04] <iEv0lv3__> ?
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[20:05] <akk> Could be. But it doesn't sound like it's related to having the nohup there. Does ngrok have documentation? (I've never heard of it.)
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[20:44] <egonsen> when should i use a pull up vs a pull down resistor?
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[20:48] <akk> egonsen, a lot of the time it will depend on what you're measuring and how your circuit is wired.
[20:48] <akk> For instance, if you have a button where pushing the button brings the line high, then you'd use a pulldown to keep it low except when the button is pushed.
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[20:49] <akk> But if pushing the button brings the line low, then you'd use a pullup.
[20:49] <egonsen> akk, i have a switch connected to a gpio pin and i want my python program to detect when it is pressed. so would a pull down resistor make sense here because it does not consume power when the switch is not pressed?
[20:49] <egonsen> sorry, a button, not a switch
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[20:51] <akk> egonsen: I don't actually know if it consumes more power to set a line high than setting it low. But I'd usually do it that way because it's conceptually simpler
[20:51] <akk> (at least for me) to think of the button being pushed when it sees a high.
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[20:53] <egonsen> akk setting the line low means connecting the gnd with the input gpio. so this does not consume any power, or did i get it wrong?
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[20:56] <akk> egonsen: No, you got it right, but whether there's measurable power consumed by connecting 3.3v to a pin and testing it, I don't know.
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[20:59] <mk-fg> You can easily calculate the amount of power that'd go through resistor
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[21:00] <mk-fg> And you'd usually pick one so that current doesn't go above what rpi is designed to handle
[21:00] <mk-fg> (via same ohm's law)
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[21:00] <BurtyB> or just use a high value and don't burn power
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[21:00] <mk-fg> egonsen, For a switch, can use internal pull-up/down resistor?
[21:01] <mk-fg> These are like 50K on RPi iirc
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[21:02] <egonsen> yes, i can use the internal one, but i want to use external ones on my breadboard to see the whole circuit (i'm still learning)
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[21:06] <egonsen> maybe i got it all wrong: does there go any current from the +3.3v to the gpio pin which is set to input when they are connected or does only the voltage level of the input pin go up and no additional power is consumed?
[21:07] <mk-fg> No power (or rather very insignificant amount) flows from GND/3.3V to input
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[21:08] <mk-fg> But it'd flow through opened switch
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[21:10] <mk-fg> Btw, for learning and experimenting, grab some interactive gpio tool like https://pythonhosted.org/RPIO/rpio_cmd.html#rpio-curses
[21:11] <mk-fg> Much easier to see and tweak everything than echoing 1/0 via sysfs or one-off commands
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[21:30] <egonsen> thx!
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[21:46] <prototron> Hey does anybody know if I can redirect the sound of the FM receiver module TEA5767 to pulseaudio?
[21:47] <egonsen> is it possible to receive the SIGINT signal when currently blocking because of GPIO.wait_for_edge(GPIO_PIN_NR_SWITCH, GPIO.FALLING)?
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[22:49] <doublehp> I have found a small LCD that pretends to use the serial port (instead of SPI); is it usable on raspberry, and can it be used with Xorg ? https://tinyurl.com/yaxwh4zm
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[23:24] <CRImier> doublehp: I don't think so
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[23:25] <CRImier> fbtft only has SPI and parallel bus support, and that's the driver you'd typically use for driving displays like these
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[23:25] <CRImier> + it seems to be a "smart display", with its own UI renderer
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[23:26] <CRImier> It's good for Arduinos, which can't hold a color 320x480 framebuffer in memory, but not good for RPi, which is powerful enough and would actually be constrained by the display
[23:26] <CRImier> egonsen: why don't you check it yourself?
[23:27] <CRImier> prototron: it has an analog output, so unless you have a way to capture that output from a Pi, Pulseaudio can't even access it
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