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IRC Log for 2018-01-11

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[0:12] <TaZeR> anyone use the pi as their main PC?
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[0:19] <xs2> chances are someone does
[0:19] <xs2> so you can just ask your question
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[0:24] <akinode> hello, is anyone here who has an idea how i can go about resolving my issue?
[0:24] <akinode> https://askubuntu.com/questions/994482/how-to-make-raspberry-pi-code-for-the-i2cdev-library-compatible-with-the-bcm2835
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[0:26] * ShorTie wonders, so wiringPi is no good
[0:26] <GenteelBen> ShorPi
[0:29] <mk-fg> akinode, A bit weird that you seem to be building arduino-specific example to use with rpi there
[0:30] <mk-fg> (i.e. MPU6050_example_1, and first error is about not finding stuff for arduino lib)
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[0:36] <akinode> mk-fg the reason as to why i am using this particular library is because it has a built in digital motion processor
[0:36] <akinode> that allows me to generate useful data from a sensor
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[0:37] <akinode> and although the library was originally built for the arduino it also encompasses code that makes it compatible with the raspberry pi, the problem is that it doesnt seem to work properly
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[0:48] <mk-fg> No, I meant the example itself by "arduino-specific example"
[0:49] <mk-fg> You seem to be not building a library there, but an example for arduino (from a brief look, at least)
[0:49] <mk-fg> Shouldn't there be some RPi_example_1 for RPi instead?
[0:50] <akinode> Ah I see what you mean now
[0:51] <akinode> In the readme section of the example code it says to compile it using a set of files that are located in the library file system itself
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[0:51] <akinode> in the third line of the compile command you can find this: {PATH_I2CDEVLIB}/Arduino/MPU6050/
[0:52] <akinode> so the code was built to work with the arduino MPU6050.h file
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[1:14] <ali1234> akinode: i have C++ code for MPU6050
[1:14] <ali1234> https://github.com/ali1234/piroverd/blob/master/mpu6050.cpp
[1:14] <ali1234> it's not very good though
[1:15] <ali1234> however, you can probably port that other driver to my i2c base class without too much work
[1:15] <ali1234> my library has no dependencies besides i2c-dev
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[1:18] <DevilTiger_> does the blank file named ssh to enable it only work on firstboot?
[1:18] <DevilTiger_> on raspbian
[1:19] <shauno> every boot
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[1:20] <DevilTiger_> so if i didn't remember ssh was disabled by default and booted it once then did it it should still work?
[1:20] <shauno> it should
[1:21] <DevilTiger_> it did. for some reason DHCP hostname resolution isn't happening
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[1:40] <echelon> hi, i installed ubuntu server on a 2011.12 model of raspberry pi model b
[1:40] <echelon> i just get a red led light
[1:40] <binaryhermit> the problem is Ubuntu only supports ARMv7
[1:41] <echelon> oh
[1:41] <binaryhermit> the pi1 and pi0 and their variants are armv6
[1:41] <echelon> tsk
[1:41] <echelon> what do i do
[1:41] <binaryhermit> and I'd guess you might have installed an x86 version anyway
[1:41] <binaryhermit> echelon: install something that supports armv6
[1:42] <Syliss> just get raspbian or noobs, it will make it easier
[1:42] <echelon> ok
[1:42] <Syliss> noobs is wonderful for starting out
[1:42] <echelon> hopefully this thing i need to run compiles on it
[1:43] <echelon> i'm not starting out
[1:43] <Syliss> i mean on the pi
[1:43] <echelon> i'm not starting out on the pi either, i just haven't kept up with the latest revisions
[1:43] <Syliss> ah
[1:43] <Syliss> i have that model of pi too
[1:43] <Syliss> 256mb ram?
[1:44] <echelon> i believe so
[1:45] <Syliss> what are you compiling?
[1:45] <echelon> just a copypasted blockchain wallet that seems to only want to compile on ubuntu 16.04
[1:45] <echelon> so i have to guess debian equivalent i guess
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[1:47] <Syliss> thats odd
[1:47] <Syliss> why not just live boot ubuntu off your computer?
[1:48] <echelon> i need to leave it running 24/7 for staking hence why the raspberry pi was the perfect candidate
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[1:48] <echelon> atm i just running it in a vm
[1:48] <echelon> i'm*
[1:49] <Syliss> ah
[1:49] <Syliss> yeah youll need a pi3
[1:49] <echelon> :/
[1:49] <Syliss> dont have extra computers?
[1:50] <echelon> i'm gonna try raspbian
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[1:50] <Syliss> tis debian so shouldnt be too much different
[1:51] <echelon> yeah, but do the latest releases support armv6?
[1:51] <Syliss> yes
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[1:51] <echelon> ok, cool
[1:51] <Syliss> since the pi0 is armv6
[1:52] <duoi> Hi all, just after a second opinion. Would this work with the r.pi 3? https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Yeah-Racing-Tornado-Hi-Flow-cooling-fan-for-Tamiya-Axial-25x25-1-10-RC-YA-0201/401018333480?hash=item5d5e8e2928:g:xDEAAOSwTm9aAa01
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[1:56] <spacerabbit> you dont need cooling
[1:57] <Syliss> you can add a heat sink if you want but adding a fan is kinda moot
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[2:00] <duoi> awesome, but lets say I attached a fan, would that fan work with the board at 5v, 0.28A?
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[2:07] <BurtyB> spacerabbit, you don't need cooling... until you need cooling as it throttles
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[2:11] <echelon> ok, for headless setup this guy says to create the ssh file in the boot partition.. https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=191252
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[2:11] <echelon> and this guy says to write it to the root dir.. https://medium.com/@danidudas/install-raspbian-jessie-lite-and-setup-wi-fi-without-access-to-command-line-or-using-the-network-97f065af722e
[2:12] <BurtyB> echelon, and raspberrypi.org says the boot partition https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/remote-access/ssh/ :)
[2:12] <chisight> echelon: it goes in the root of the boot partition which is normally mounted at /boot.
[2:12] <echelon> ok, thanks
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[2:12] <chisight> np
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[2:12] <ali1234> compiling *coin will take forever on a rpi 0
[2:13] <echelon> it's an rp1.. if that makes a difference :/
[2:13] <ali1234> it doesn't... it's just as slow
[2:13] <chisight> nope, they're all the same for this. it's just how recent your image is that matters.
[2:13] <chisight> old images didn't implement the /boot/ssh file security.
[2:13] <ali1234> it might even fail to compile due to not enough memory, depending on your setup
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[2:14] <echelon> hmm.. perhaps i should cross-compile
[2:14] <ali1234> maybe. which coin is it?
[2:14] <ali1234> maybe someone already did it
[2:15] <ali1234> although running a random binary might be unwise
[2:15] <echelon> nah, it's a crap coin
[2:15] <chisight> depends on if you want to set it up and walk away, or if you want to spend some time up front to get results in less calendar time.
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[2:17] <chisight> i've put swap on an nbd before and had it work better than a slow disk. swap on usb drive may be faster than sdcard too. if the compile is huge, check what you can about memory needs and make sure you have enough swap to handle them.
[2:17] <ali1234> it's C++ and boost... so yeah it's huge
[2:18] <echelon> boost should already be available from the repo no?
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[2:18] <ali1234> yes
[2:18] <echelon> anyway, i'm gonna put this into a docker container and run it from a dedicated machine in the future, so it's only a temporary setup
[2:20] <binaryhermit> you might be better off getting a refurb (r0x0rs!) computer and installing a linux
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[2:20] <chisight> then *using* boost shouldn't take a ton of time to compile if you start with binary libraries. it's just linking there. i don't know the program that uses boost, so who knows how long it will take.
[2:21] <ali1234> linking C++ is always slow
[2:21] <chisight> meh, linking is a fairly small job, slow is probably relative.
[2:22] <ali1234> slow relative to C
[2:22] <ali1234> like, at least an order of magnitude slower
[2:23] <chisight> even two orders wouldn't matter that much.
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[2:24] <chisight> compiling boost would matter.
[2:24] <r0n0x> hey can someone help me out?
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[2:25] <chisight> r0n0x: maybe
[2:25] <r0n0x> how do i put a DDNS client on my raspberry pi, to work with the DDNS service on freedns.afraid.org
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[2:27] <chisight> r0n0x: per the afraid.org site, https://freedns.afraid.org/scripts/update.sh.txt is probably an ok option for use on the pi. more options at https://freedns.afraid.org/scripts/freedns.clients.php
[2:27] <r0n0x> ooh ty
[2:28] <chisight> np
[2:28] <ali1234> time make -j8 : real 3m48.262s
[2:29] <ali1234> that's on an i7 with 16GB
[2:29] <ali1234> link took about 15 seconds
[2:30] <r0n0x> when it does that, does the DDNS address direct to the specific device on the network hosting the client? or just assigns my networks public IP to that name?
[2:30] <ali1234> on a pi 1 expect it to take at least 80 times longer :)
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[2:34] <chisight> meh, 20 minutes is something you walk away for. if you're going to do it often, you would want to cross compile on a bigger machine but not worth the setup time for a one time task.
[2:35] <ali1234> i'd guess it will be closer to 6 hours than 20 minutes
[2:35] <chisight> i'd be more concerned about memory use, if it thrashes then time goes up exponentially.
[2:35] <chisight> 80x15 sec is 20 minutes.
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[2:36] <ali1234> oh yeah, just for the link. but the whole compile took nearly 4 minutes
[2:36] <r0n0x> ok, i have a problem
[2:36] <chisight> it's gone from one order of magnitude to two to three.
[2:36] <chisight> yes r0n0x?
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[2:36] <BurtyB> hey ali1234 I had fun making a fake "pi zero" (with GreatFET) testing the ".." issue the other night - just need someone to realise it really does need fixing heh
[2:36] <ali1234> BurtyB: nice. what's GreatFET?
[2:37] <r0n0x> i want to have remote access via ssh AND make the pi have a publicly accessible mqtt broker address
[2:37] <ali1234> i make fake USB devices with dummyhcd :)
[2:37] <ali1234> no hardware required, just linux
[2:37] <chisight> r0n0x: great! where is the problem?
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[2:38] <BurtyB> ali1234, you can emulate USB devices with a bit of python - yeah I've wanted to play with it for other uses so figured this was a good way to start :)
[2:38] <r0n0x> i havent quite looked into the specifics yet but, will this result in me needing to make individual ddns domains for each port, or, just accessing the ddns domain given with the port extension on the end of it depending on how i connect
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[2:38] <r0n0x> i.e address.sub.com:1234
[2:38] <ali1234> you can do that with dummyhcd - and i do :)
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[2:38] <chisight> you just need one ddns host for all 65535 possible ports.
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[2:39] <r0n0x> i see
[2:39] <chisight> depending on the ddns provider, you may even be able to set up _srv records to advertise your services.
[2:40] <r0n0x> and for any more devices though, im basically just reserving a port just for that device right?
[2:40] <ali1234> BurtyB: nice proof of concept would be an actual pi firmware that steals user's ssh key, starts cdc-eth, and then logs in on ssh
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[2:42] <ali1234> passing the key to userspace could be done by abusing the initrd loader, since that lets you specify a file name in config.txt. would just need to modify the kernel to accept an arbitrary file rather than a compressed file system
[2:42] <BurtyB> ali1234, heh cdc-eth is part of my bigger project I want to use this board for ;)
[2:43] <r0n0x> right now im just learning how do make a bash script and follow those instructions for the script
[2:43] <chisight> r0n0x: if a "device" is something that has an internal ip on your local lan, you just port forward an appropriate port for it. if a "device" is something that has a different public IP, you need another ddns entry for each public ip.
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[2:43] <r0n0x> yeah its inside this network
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[2:43] <chisight> then do a port forward at the router.
[2:44] <BurtyB> ali1234, well I can just plug this board in now to grab the files it prob wouldn't take much more to switch to a devices and login with the key it grabs :)
[2:44] <chisight> r0n0x: each external (public) port can only be forwarded to one internal device, so for example you can't have two internal devices both on external port 80.
[2:44] <r0n0x> is there any chance port forwarding will fail if another device happens to take up the specific IP? or are there a range of IPs i can make my device connect to so that will never happen
[2:45] <chisight> the internal device will need to be assigned a static dhcp entry in your router for the port forwards to work reliably.
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[2:48] <chisight> you can also use a plain old static ip on the internal device, but make sure the router won't assign it to some other device. (probably by reserving it as a static dhcp entry)
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[2:50] <chisight> ok, enough answers for the moment, i have a question.
[2:50] <chisight> Does anyone have experience and opinions on MySensors ( https://www.mysensors.org )? i'm considering them for a small project using a Pi Zero, Arduino Nano and NRF24L01+ but not sure where the pitfalls may be and don't have any specific questions yet. it looks like a pretty simple solution, but of course looks can be very deceiving, so i'm looking for opinions. The one specific i know i need help on
[2:50] <chisight> is which MQTT server to use and what security protocol is practical when the client is a Nano. The MQTT could run on the Zero or could run elsewhere, that decision is flexible.
[2:51] <ali1234> skip the nano and just program the NRF directly?
[2:51] <chisight> does anyone have experience and opinions on MySensors?
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[2:51] <chisight> ali1234: how? foes the NRF24L01+ have a way to program it's internal cpu now?
[2:52] <ali1234> afaik it always did?
[2:52] <ali1234> oh wait that's the LU
[2:52] <chisight> afaik it never did. i've been over the NRF24L01+ spec sheet in fine detail.
[2:53] <ali1234> anyway, i'd go for an integrated SoC
[2:53] <ali1234> NRF or ESP
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[2:54] <chisight> let me restate then. i have an existing Pi Zero, Nano and pair of NRF24L01+ that i would like to put to use.
[2:55] <shauno> reminds me, I keep wanting to figure out how to do this with TI's CC1110
[2:55] <ali1234> you can get an NRF51 starter kit for $10
[2:56] <chisight> i have a whopping $3.50 in this and the destination is not within the range of an esp8266. the Zero would be located about 1/2 way to the destination.
[2:56] <ali1234> as far as security goes... yeah, there is none
[2:56] <ali1234> IoT security is basically "nobody cares what temperature your house is"
[2:58] <BurtyB> until someone uses it to work out when you're out :)
[2:58] <echelon> ugh, the boot partition is the fat fs on raspbian, right?
[2:59] <BurtyB> echelon, yup
[2:59] <echelon> fat partition*
[2:59] <chisight> there is security possible. i found SHA256-HMAC code for arduino that can be layered in the MQTT message if necessary, but i don't know if it's a good solution so i didn't offer it up. this isn't a thermometer and does need to be somewhat secure.
[2:59] <echelon> i did it, and ssh doesn't appear to be open
[2:59] <echelon> but i can ping
[2:59] <echelon> created the ssh file on /boot that is
[3:00] <chisight> echelon: yes, the partiton 1 is fat and is boot.
[3:01] <chisight> echelon: is this an image downloaded from raspberrypi.org recently?
[3:01] <echelon> yeah, raspbian stretch lite
[3:01] <echelon> i'm on a pi1
[3:01] <echelon> let me try it again
[3:01] <chisight> ok, that should be working.
[3:02] <chisight> first boot does take some time, especially if the sd card is big.
[3:05] <echelon> nah, i left it running for half an hour
[3:05] <chisight> that is plenty
[3:05] <chisight> 5 minutes is enough.
[3:05] <echelon> chisight: you mean it automatically tries to expand the partition on the sdcard
[3:06] <chisight> you're still able to ping?
[3:06] <echelon> i turned it off now
[3:06] <chisight> echelon: yes, that is the primary time consuming event on first boot.
[3:06] <echelon> ok, i see that it's using up the remaining free space now
[3:07] <chisight> echelon: if this is a headless box that you just gracelessly pulled the plug on, you need to fsck it.
[3:07] <echelon> k
[3:08] <echelon> ok, i actually see ssh file still in there
[3:08] <echelon> isn't it supposed to delete after booting
[3:08] <echelon> or did it just ignore it altogether
[3:08] <chisight> the /boot/ssh file stays permanently.
[3:08] <echelon> oh
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[3:09] <echelon> uhm.. other contents in the partition should be start.elf, etc?
[3:09] <echelon> and broadcom stuff
[3:10] <chisight> i don't have a stretch lite pi turned on right now, not sure.
[3:10] <chisight> start.elf is one of them.
[3:10] <echelon> ok
[3:10] <BurtyB> chisight, the /boot/ssh file is removed after it boots
[3:12] <chisight> BurtyB: so you are right. just checked a full that used /boot/ssh
[3:13] <chisight> echelon: is this headless? if yes, do you have another pi running a reasonably similar generation version of raspbian that does have a head?
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[3:14] <echelon> chisight: there's a separate download for headless?
[3:14] <chisight> echelon: no
[3:14] <echelon> yeah, i don't have a video display for it
[3:15] <chisight> lite is usable with or without a head.
[3:15] <echelon> i don't have another pi
[3:15] <chisight> ok, then my last idea isn't workable.
[3:15] <echelon> anyway, still no luck with ssh
[3:16] <chisight> i assume you do have a linux machine that you can do the fsck on if you've just been power cycling this thing, right?
[3:16] <echelon> i've only unplugged it once
[3:16] <echelon> oh, you mean it's stuck at a prompt asking to fsck?
[3:16] <chisight> once can be all it takes
[3:17] <chisight> no, i was thinking sitting at a kernel panic or a failed to mount error.
[3:17] <echelon> all the lights are on though
[3:17] <chisight> unfortunately that doesn't say that much about state.
[3:17] <echelon> and if there was a kernel panic, i shouldn't be able to ping it
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[3:18] <chisight> yes.
[3:18] <chisight> that is why i asked if you could still ping it.
[3:18] <echelon> ok
[3:19] <chisight> as BurtyB pointed out, the fact that /boot/ssh still exists is a problem.
[3:19] <chisight> if you have very little data/config on it yet, i'd grab the files you can and burn the image over again.
[3:20] <echelon> yeah, i haven't managed to use it at all
[3:20] <chisight> i'd also check the sha checksum of the download.
[3:20] <echelon> i did
[3:20] <chisight> good.
[3:20] <echelon> it matches
[3:21] <chisight> burn it again. then read the image back and compare that to the unzipped image using sha256
[3:21] <chisight> eliminate a burn problem, unless connecting a head for diagnosing is easier.
[3:24] <chisight> back on my first pi, i used the internal sdcard reader on my hp laptop and it took hours to figure out that the reader doesn't work. i was also headless at the time. (well, all my pi are either remote, off, or headless right now.)
[3:26] <echelon> rewriting the image
[3:26] <chisight> good
[3:26] <chisight> read back and checksum it to be sure. do that before testing it, it changes on first boot.
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[3:28] <echelon> oh, i remembered i had purchased a license for mpeg-2 for a pi unit which i had to return, is it possible to spoof the id using chroot or something?
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[3:29] <r0n0x> what does it mean to append text to a file
[3:30] <echelon> append means to add at the end
[3:30] <shauno> to stick the text on the end without changing the existing contents, instead of replacing it
[3:30] <r0n0x> ah
[3:30] <r0n0x> ty
[3:30] <shauno> and I don't think it's too easy to messy with the gpu licences, because they're handled by the gpu, not the OS
[3:30] <echelon> ah
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[3:33] <chisight> customer service may be able to help, but i'm sure you'd need proof of the return. probably better to just buy another.
[3:33] <shauno> (the pi's a weird machine because the GPU's really the brains of the oepration - the cpu is just a convenience)
[3:33] <chisight> lol, in a lot of ways, yes.
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[3:37] <echelon> chisight: run checksum against the device node?
[3:37] <echelon> eh, i don't think that would work
[3:37] <echelon> how exactly would i go about it
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[3:37] <chisight> no, use dd or whatever to copy the image back to another file on your computer and sha256 both of them.
[3:38] <chisight> back off the sdcard
[3:38] <echelon> oh..
[3:38] <chisight> that guarantees the image wrote and can be read back successfully.
[3:38] <echelon> gotcha
[3:39] <echelon> wouldn't that still copy the empty space on the sd card as well?
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[3:39] <chisight> sorry, you have to tell it the exact size to copy.
[3:40] <echelon> lol how do i do that
[3:40] <chisight> suppose i should have pointed that out.
[3:40] <echelon> i know it copied 1858076672 bytes when i wrote to the sdcard with dd
[3:41] <chisight> ok, read that number of bytes back.
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[3:42] <chisight> that's 1772 1MB blocks.
[3:42] <echelon> exactly?
[3:43] <Ben64> in a row?
[3:43] <shauno> yup, it's 1772 * 1024 * 1024
[3:44] <shauno> 1772 divides into 4 too, so you could just do bs=4M count=443
[3:44] <echelon> kk
[3:46] <chisight> sorry, was off diligently trying to burn the 2nd half of my dinner.
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[3:49] <echelon> chisight: doesn't match -_-
[3:49] <chisight> did you boot off this sdcard since burning it?
[3:49] <echelon> nope
[3:49] <chisight> what command are you using to burn it in the firstplace?
[3:50] <shauno> worth double-checking it's actually the same size as the original file?
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[3:50] <echelon> chisight: dd bs=32M if=2017-11-29-raspbian-stretch-lite.img of=/dev/sdc conv=fsync
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[3:51] <shauno> that's what I wondered. if the image you're writing it's a multiple of 32M, then bytes written might not reflect the actual size of the data
[3:51] <shauno> *isn't a multiple ..
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[3:51] <echelon> hmm
[3:51] <chisight> yeah, use bs=1M when writing
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[3:51] <echelon> i'll do it again :/
[3:51] <echelon> i did it the first time and it took too long
[3:52] <chisight> blocks of more than the physical block size don't improve performance
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[3:52] <chisight> (appreciatively)
[3:53] <shauno> oh, actually, I just downloaded -lite here, and that is the right size, 1858076672
[3:54] <shauno> (but it doesn't divide into 32M)
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[3:54] <shauno> so you probably don't need to write it out again, just read it off as bs=4M count=443, or bs=1M count=1772, etc
[3:54] <chisight> 1393557504 is the image size i got for 2017-03-02-raspbian-jessie-lite.img
[3:54] <chisight> 1858076672 is reasonably close, but does look a bit big.
[3:55] <chisight> the read was 1M, the write was bs=32M
[3:55] <shauno> 1858076672 29 Nov 02:37 2017-11-29-raspbian-stretch-lite.img that's the one I just grabbed
[3:56] <chisight> ok, consistent with the write then
[3:56] <shauno> yeah, I assumed that wasn't a coincidence. it'd be fantastic if it was :)
[3:56] <chisight> is that the size of the file you read back too?
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[4:05] <chisight> anyone else have opinions other than "there is better hardware and it can't possibly be secured" on the MySensors question i asked an hour and a quarter ago? if MySensors doesn't actually support ATmega328, i'm interested in that, but i have this hardware and will be using it unless it can't be used.
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[4:15] <shauno> I wish I did. I bought into a platform made by a company that blinked out of existed 6 months later
[4:15] <chisight> :-(
[4:16] <chisight> i want to keep everything on hardware that i control.
[4:16] <chisight> or at least pay for.
[4:16] <shauno> I'm not even mad, just disappointed. I still love the hardware. I just can't buy more. the hub uses a rpi CM, and the sensors last 2 years on a coincell battery
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[4:19] <chisight> that's some nice lifespan.
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[4:19] <chisight> i plan to power from wall power for the gateway and parasitic power for the client.
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[4:23] <chisight> my hope in asking here is that i avoid spending a ton of time on a platform that just sucks.
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[4:25] <chisight> but so far, the only opinions i can get are from people who never used it and don't have specifics for why not to. i got that the code is a jumbled mess, but what platform that is built by many people as independent modules isn't? arduino code sucks, but is quite usable. even raspbian has it's issues, look at the network init and don't get me started on the gui changes last year.
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[4:27] <echelon> chisight: did it a second time, and it still didn't match :/
[4:27] <chisight> echelon: are the file sizes the same?
[4:28] <echelon> yeah.. 1858076672
[4:28] <chisight> ok, what are the exact 2 commands used?
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[4:30] <echelon> chisight: dd bs=1M if=2017-11-29-raspbian-stretch-lite.img of=/dev/sdc conv=fsync
[4:31] <chisight> and?
[4:31] <echelon> dd if=/dev/sdc of=rasp.img bs=1M count=1772
[4:32] <echelon> ^
[4:32] <chisight> and sha256 rasp.img does not match sha256 2017-11-29-raspbian-stretch-lite.img, right?
[4:33] <echelon> right
[4:34] <chisight> note the 2nd one is .img, not .zip.
[4:34] <chisight> it looks fine to me. shauno, BurtyB, opinions?
[4:34] <shauno> the method looks right, the madness doesn't. I'd be trying the same on a different sdcard by this point
[4:35] <echelon> wish there was a checksum of the entire fs tree
[4:35] <chisight> that is the whole tree. plus the partition table and boot block and all.
[4:36] <echelon> i mean file by file
[4:36] <CannedSpinach> I just did apt-get source, apt-get build-dep, and dkpg-buildpackage on samba on my RPi and it failed to build twice
[4:36] <CannedSpinach> no idea what I'm doing wrong
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[4:36] <chisight> echelon: is shauno's suggestion possible? also a different sdcard reader too.
[4:36] <CannedSpinach> the binary on the apt repositories is giving errors as well
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[4:40] <echelon> i'll try it a third time
[4:42] <chisight> echelon: 2 failures make a 3rd unlikely to succeed, but if you have no other hardware to try, that's the only option. even the sdcard from your phone or camera.
[4:42] <IanTLopp> is there a way to setup a smart power switch that will run the shutdown script, but ALSO cut the power to the unit entirely, then when pressed again, it turns the power on?
[4:44] <shauno> echelon: if you do try a third time, save the new image to a different file this time? I'm curious if you read back the same thing each time, so it'd be fun to compare those too
[4:45] <shauno> if you can't even read the same data back each time, that'd be a more concrete sign that your card has seen better times
[4:45] <chisight> IanTLopp: i don't have names, but there are such products out there for the googling. i wold start by searching for tools that use the gpio-poweroff.dtb or gpio-shutdown.dtb
[4:46] <shauno> I use https://lowpowerlab.com/guide/atxraspi/ but I don't believe it uses any dtd fanciness
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[4:47] <shauno> (this isn't so much a recommendation, as a concrete example that the answer is "yes")
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[4:50] <IanTLopp> shauno, I don't see where that actually cuts the electricity to the raspi so as not to waste power while the raspi is plugged in.
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[4:52] <shauno> the power to the pi goes through this board, so it can cut power leaving only this microcontroller powered
[4:52] <shauno> https://lowpowerlab.com/guide/atxraspi/full-pi-poweroff-from-software/
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[4:54] <echelon> shauno: different again, and checksum is different from previous dump :/
[4:54] <echelon> gonna see if i can dig up another sd card
[4:55] <chisight> or a different reader echelon
[4:55] <chisight> my problem was the reader the first time i tried to set up a pi.
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[5:12] <IanTLopp> thanks shauno
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[5:18] <echelon> shauno, chisight .. success!
[5:18] <echelon> it was the stupid sd card
[5:18] <echelon> :/
[5:19] <echelon> last time i ever buy chinamart sd cards
[5:19] <chisight> i've had pretty good luck so far with china cards, but i only use them for scratch work, never put user data on them.
[5:20] <chisight> good to hear!
[5:20] <echelon> ok, so `touch ssh` should be sufficient on the first partition?
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[5:21] <shauno> yeah, that bit hasn't changed in the last few hours :)
[5:22] <echelon> ^_^
[5:22] <chisight> ;-)
[5:23] <shauno> I mean it sounds like you were doing everything right the first time around, the dodgy card was just tossing some of it out the window
[5:26] <echelon> and i can ssh :)
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[5:50] <myxenovia> hi
[5:52] <myxenovia> my rpi wont work
[5:52] <myxenovia> i flashed my iso to sd card using win32 disk imager
[5:53] <myxenovia> when i boot
[5:53] <myxenovia> it says "no signal detected"
[5:53] <HrdwrBoB> have you selected the right onput
[5:53] <HrdwrBoB> input
[5:53] <HrdwrBoB> does it have sufficient/any power
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[5:54] <HrdwrBoB> is the hdmi cable ok
[5:54] <HrdwrBoB> can you try on another monitr?
[5:54] <myxenovia> HrdwrBoB yea the hdmi cable is new
[5:54] <myxenovia> the power is 5v
[5:54] <myxenovia> HrdwrBoB okay ill do it.
[5:55] <myxenovia> HrdwrBob i removed my boot sector of my sd card. could it be a problem too?
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[5:55] <myxenovia> well disk imager will remove it too either way
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[5:56] <HrdwrBoB> if you did anything AFTER disk imager it might be a problem
[5:56] <HrdwrBoB> but i you did anything before it, it's irrelevant
[5:57] <myxenovia> HrdwrBob i didnt do anything i just put it to rpi after i disk imager
[5:57] <myxenovia> HrdwrBob how can i remove sd card from rpi anyway?
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[5:59] <HrdwrBoB> ?
[5:59] <HrdwrBoB> you just pull it out
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[5:59] <myxenovia> HrdwrBob no my rpi has a casing
[5:59] <myxenovia> so my finger wont even reach the sd card
[6:00] <HrdwrBoB> ah
[6:00] <HrdwrBoB> well.. removing casing then? whatever you need to do
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[6:03] <myxenovia> HrdwrBob its not working. should i just use noobs ?
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[6:05] <HrdwrBoB> if you want to
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[6:20] <echelon> seems mirrordirector incorrectly redirect ipv4 hosts to ipv6 mirrors
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[6:35] <myxenovia> im back
[6:35] <myxenovia> NOOBS works. the green LED is blinking
[6:35] <myxenovia> win32diskimager to flash iso dont
[6:35] <myxenovia> why?
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[6:36] <ShorTie> did you unzip it ??
[6:36] <myxenovia> ShortTie why would i unzip. win32diskimager needs iso or img
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[6:37] <foo> Anyone in here read data via RFID with Rasberry Pi? /me doing some research
[6:38] <myxenovia> ShortTie the green leed blinking has stopped. in the middle of installation what should i do lol
[6:38] <ShorTie> any image i've downloaded needed unzip'd before writing witj win32diskimager
[6:38] <ShorTie> now etcher does not
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[6:39] <ShorTie> got me, never used NOOBS
[6:39] <IanTLopp> ShorTie: you use pinn?
[6:40] <ShorTie> never heard of it
[6:40] <IanTLopp> pinn is short for "PINN Is Not NOOBS"
[6:40] <IanTLopp> it's basically a replacement for Noobs - better all around
[6:41] <ShorTie> only use striaght raspbian
[6:41] <IanTLopp> pinn allows you to dualboot into raspbian and other OSes
[6:41] <myxenovia> ShortTie you mean unzip it to folder? if i browse it from diskimager it will not see it. because its filedialog is filtered for iso or img
[6:42] <IanTLopp> I'm VERY tempted to setup a little distro of raspbian to boot directly into something like hexchat, and JUST support that.
[6:42] <IanTLopp> be neat to have nothing but an IRC client on it.
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[6:43] <echelon> well, looks like i've hit a road block
[6:44] <echelon> openssl version is too new, this package was only tested against ubuntu 16.04, whose latest version of openssl is 1.0.2g
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[6:46] <IanTLopp> on this picture https://i.ytimg.com/vi/bXgUBABUHGg/maxresdefault.jpg which is the pi zero W? the middle or the right?
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[6:49] <xacktm> https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/PI-Zero-W-web.jpg
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[6:50] <IanTLopp> ahh, good... so I don't have to tear this unit apart.
[6:51] <IanTLopp> I've got a few of each (mostly the standard zero), and I have a camera setup with the pi zero w... that's what I need for some testing.
[6:51] <IanTLopp> tomorrow I'm going to add a light and a power switch to the unit, then run everything over SSH
[6:51] <IanTLopp> start figuring out how to setup scripts so I can just click a few buttons and have it start recording from one camera or another, then have that camera that's recording backup the video over wireless to a NAS
[6:52] <foo> Anyone ever worked on RFID projects? Gen2 tags RFID have about 37 feet distance, it seems
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[7:10] <shauno> IanTLopp: same mess here. I always look for that funny triangle carved into the board next to the cpu (their black-magic antenna)
[7:11] <shauno> (it does actually say zero W 1.1 on the underside, just that antenna is distinctive enough to spot in a pileup)
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[7:32] <myxenovia> hi
[7:33] <myxenovia> how can i connect to hidden network
[7:33] <myxenovia> in my rpi
[7:33] <myxenovia> raspbian os
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[7:44] <chisight> does anyone have a suggestion for which mqtt broker to use on a pi zero?
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[7:45] <myxenovia> i just restarted
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[7:46] <myxenovia> theres wlan0 and eth0 interfaces in my raspbian. but after following instructions on google about connecting to hidden network it says "no interfaces found"
[7:46] <myxenovia> i just edited the wpa_supplicant what should i do
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[7:54] <kopper> myxenovia: Like this? https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=25104
[7:55] <kopper> Although hidden ssid doesn't make your network one bit more secure.
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[8:03] <Silveress> Oo/
[8:03] <Silveress> Planning on getting a pi 3,anything I should be mindful of?
[8:03] <Ben64> case, power
[8:04] <Silveress> Pitfalls etc (aside from the rabbit hole of a tiny Linux computer)
[8:04] <Ben64> depends what you want to do really
[8:05] <Silveress> Pihole and pivpn
[8:05] <Ben64> : /
[8:05] <Silveress> Those to begin with anyways
[8:05] <Ben64> do you realize the raspberry pi is really limited on bandwidth
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[8:06] <Silveress> 10/100 port right?
[8:06] <Silveress> Well we only have 50mbps Internet
[8:06] <Silveress> So I wasn't thinking it would be the limiting factor
[8:07] <chisight> kopper: have you ever heard the story of the two hunters who ran into a bear in the woods?
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[8:07] <kopper> I don't think so
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[8:07] <Ben64> Silveress: it's shared with usb bandwidth though
[8:07] <chisight> these guys stumbled right on a mother with cubs. she was pissed and chased them.
[8:08] <chisight> the first runner says "we're gonners for sure"
[8:08] <Silveress> And what problems could that potentially cause?
[8:08] <Ben64> and it only has one ethernet so you'd be limited even more doing vpn with it
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[8:08] <chisight> the 2nd says "no we're not, i only have to out run you and i'll be fine."
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[8:09] <Silveress> Heheheheeee
[8:09] <Silveress> How limited?
[8:09] <chisight> the moral of the story is that the weakest security gets victimized first. sure, obfuscation isn't real security, but it does make the other guy more likely to get caught by the bear.
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[8:10] <Ben64> Silveress: well, half
[8:11] <kopper> chisight: Consider this. I want to crack wifi. I have million tools to scan hidden ssid. What is the most intriguing target?
[8:11] <chisight> kopper: in other words, yes, hiding your ssid is not secure. anyone actually looking will see you. but they'll see your neighbors first and probably not bother to look harder.
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[8:11] <kopper> Imho quite the opposite if you have any idea what you're doing.
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[8:12] <Silveress> Well the end goal is to get one of my remote computers registering as my work ip as one of the key software is ip locked and we need it working for demos
[8:12] <chisight> the slower runner is going to be caught by the bear. odds are that the bear won't bother going further once it has a nice tasty hunter to chew on.
[8:13] <Silveress> Aside from that that computer won't need much connectivity at all, it's just to save us the hassle of calling the other company and looking bad in front of clients.
[8:14] <Silveress> With that overview would using the pi as a vpn server be worth it?
[8:14] <Silveress> M(sorry for the roundabout ramble, haven't slept well this night)
[8:15] <kopper> chisight: I get your analogy but I don't think that really is the case here. Attacker is not the bear, and hidden SSID just feeds false sense of security.
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[8:15] <kopper> a*
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[8:15] <chisight> kopper: it isn't security, never has and never will be. it's making the other guy an easier target.
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[8:16] <Silveress> Making the network hidden would also imply "I know more about tech than my neighbours and overall may be more of a hassle to mess around on my network"
[8:17] <chisight> anyone with half a brain can get past it, but if you're looking for stolen internet service or to see naked women on iot cams, you won't bother with the hidden ssid. the iot cam likely can't handle a hidden ssid and internet service is internet service, you go after what's easiest.
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[8:27] <kopper> chisight: You do have a point, but how about another conclusion; Someone knows something about tech and has hidden SSID. Maybe that's all he knows and there's home server or NAS in network. Again hidden SSID adds nothing and can potentially *could* make you more interesting target, depending of attackers motives.
[8:27] <kopper> -can
[8:27] <chisight> someone out to mess around, sure.
[8:29] <chisight> stolen internet service is the most likely use of someone going after your wifi. the wep wifi my neighbor uses is the far most interesting one.
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[8:32] <kopper> Selecting weak encryption over strong is different point question than hidden vs. non-hidden SSID
[8:32] <kopper> I should learn to write English
[8:33] <chisight> eh, it's understandable.
[8:33] <chisight> i don't bother to hide my ssid, but have no objections to others doing it. it buys you less than it costs in annoyances.
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[8:35] <chisight> someday i'll get around to putting an at&t ssid on my wifi. make it less interesting because who is going to bother with a dsl connection?
[8:36] <chisight> nothing says "i don't have kids, therefore don't have a nanny cam" today than a dsl connection.
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[8:38] <IanTLopp> chisight: I've got AT&T Gigabit here... having an AT&T ssid might come off as more provocative.
[8:39] <chisight> at&t doesn't have gigabit in most places. they don't have it at any place i operate an access point.
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[8:40] <chisight> heck, i haven't been able to get past 200kbps all day. at&t is having a really bad day.
[8:41] <chisight> youtube has me at 240p on my 4k monitor. :-(
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[9:12] <mlelstv> .oO( big pixels )
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[9:13] <chisight> their client blurs them over many small pixels.
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[9:24] <IanTLopp> roughly how long should I wait for a raspi zero to boot into jessie lite before I try to ssh over into it? this is first boot, and I'm trying to do it headless
[9:24] <IanTLopp> (mostly because I'm also setting up a raspi 3 connected to my lone monitor in here)
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[9:25] <Habbie> i recall the first boot might be a few minutes due to file system resizing and such
[9:25] <chisight> 3 minutes should be plenty unless you have an unusually large disk or anything else special about your system.
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[9:25] <IanTLopp> 16gb sd card.
[9:26] <chisight> 16gb is no big deal.
[9:27] <IanTLopp> okay.
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[9:31] <elisaado> Hm
[9:31] <IanTLopp> hmm... my router isn't saying it's connected.. hrmm.
[9:32] <chisight> wifi problems?
[9:32] <IanTLopp> I guess
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[9:35] <chisight> if the console where you wrote wpa_supplicant is still open, maybe it still shows what you wrote in the scrollback.
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[9:36] <IanTLopp> ERGH... now my 2.5A power supply by canakit is showing a yellow lightning icon on retropie.
[9:36] <IanTLopp> it's never done that before.
[9:36] <IanTLopp> I swear this raspi3 is temperamental
[9:37] <Habbie> is your usb cable good?
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[9:37] <IanTLopp> brand new... it's a 9' cable though. was hoping to move the raspi 3 around
[9:37] <IanTLopp> the tiny cable the canakit adapter came with was too limiting.
[9:38] <Habbie> see if the canakit cable does better
[9:38] <Habbie> at least as an experiment
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[9:39] <chisight> or do a 4 wire (kelvin) measurement of cable resistance.
[9:41] <chisight> 0.15 ohms should be good enough. (that's one power wire, not the round trip through both wires)
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[9:42] <IanTLopp> don't have a multimeter on hand at the moment.
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[9:46] <chisight> to do the test, you need a multimeter, a lab supply and a 2A load. or you need a bench meter that has 4 wire mode.
[9:47] <chisight> the canakit supply is probably plenty to run any pi, but who knows how much voltage drop it has under load.
[9:47] <gordonDrogon> IanTLopp, make sure you can ping it - and did you create the /boot/ssh file?
[9:47] <IanTLopp> gordonDrogon: I did... does it matter if it's a .txt file renamed to just ssh.?
[9:47] <Lartza> no
[9:47] <IanTLopp> (no extension)
[9:48] <chisight> it can contain anything, but will be deleted.
[9:48] <shauno> not sure how I read that - it's named "ssh" or "ssh." ?
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[9:50] <shauno> (having the dot and the questionmark makes it slightly ambiguous in precisely where we don't want ambiguity)
[9:50] <IanTLopp> shauno: I added the . for emphasis that there is no extension.
[9:51] <gordonDrogon> yea, just "ssh"
[9:51] <Habbie> IanTLopp, that's confusing because you can actually have a file called 'ssh.' which is not the same as 'ssh' :)
[9:51] <IanTLopp> Habbie: that I did not know.
[9:51] <gordonDrogon> in unix, etc. all characters are significant.
[9:52] <Lartza> Windows doesn't let me :(
[9:52] <Lartza> create an "ssh." file that is
[9:52] <shauno> the pi shouldn't actually care if it's named "ssh.txt", fwiw
[9:52] <IanTLopp> okay testing with the canakit cable and there's no lightning bolt.
[9:52] <Habbie> shauno, but it does, right?
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[9:53] <chisight> IanTLopp: then cable is the problem. 9 feet is very long for a power cable and would have to be exceptionally good at that length.
[9:53] <shauno> but if you're not sure, pop the card back into windows and see if it's still there. it's deleted when it's acted upon, so if it's still there, something's gone wrong
[9:53] <shauno> Habbie, either should work
[9:53] <IanTLopp> chisight: it's a charging cable.. pretty thick. I thought it would handle the load. oh well.
[9:53] <Habbie> shauno, ah
[9:54] <Habbie> shauno, specifically ssh and ssh.txt?
[9:54] <Lartza> Maybe it has just thick insulation ;)
[9:54] <Lartza> *just has
[9:54] <chisight> or paper wrapped wires.
[9:55] <IanTLopp> ARGH. the two files I added, ssh, and wpa_supplicant.conf don't exist :(
[9:55] <IanTLopp> how??
[9:55] <shauno> yes, specifically just those two - https://pastebin.com/hs6tdCNs
[9:55] <Habbie> they were picked up
[9:55] <Habbie> shauno, neat
[9:55] <chisight> being gone is a good sign. you named them right IanTLopp.
[9:55] <IanTLopp> both files, though?
[9:56] <shauno> yes. it doesn't leave them there, so it doesn't waste its time on them at every boot
[9:56] <IanTLopp> oh ok
[9:56] <IanTLopp> that is, assuming those files were written to the drive to begin with..
[9:56] <chisight> yeah. ssh gets deleted and wpa_supplicant.conf gets moved to /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
[9:56] <IanTLopp> i'm suspecting not.
[9:56] <shauno> which is handy because it also means we know it worked because they're gone
[9:56] <Habbie> IanTLopp, that is the other possibility, yes
[9:57] <chisight> check for /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
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[10:00] <IanTLopp> chisight: can't
[10:00] <IanTLopp> windows computer... hates me.
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[10:00] <IanTLopp> I can only see the "boot" drive, and it only has one folder in it - overlays
[10:00] <shauno> oh not at all. windows just hates humans. it's not you.
[10:00] <myxenovia> hi
[10:00] <chisight> yeah, windows doesn't like anyone.
[10:00] <myxenovia> what is the circle plug jack in the rpi 3 model b?
[10:00] <Lartza> IanTLopp, Even if you would see the other partition you couldn't open it
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[10:01] <Lartza> Windows hates removable devices with more than one partition, and lacks drivers for ext partitions
[10:01] <IanTLopp> myxenovia: audio out, but it can also double as compposite out with the proper connector.
[10:01] <Habbie> the right TRRS connector
[10:01] <myxenovia> IAnTLoop but my headset wont emit sound
[10:02] <Habbie> myxenovia, is hdmi connected?
[10:02] <Lartza> also need to edit config.txt to enable the analog audio
[10:02] <myxenovia> HAbbie yea
[10:02] <Habbie> myxenovia, then what Lartza said
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[10:03] <myxenovia> im actually chatting with you right now in my rpi
[10:03] <Habbie> if you boot with working hdmi, there is no analog audio by default
[10:03] <myxenovia> i installed pulseaudio what is it
[10:03] <Lartza> Habbie, oh is analog enabled without hdmi?
[10:03] <shauno> you say headset .. is this a mic/headphone thingie?
[10:03] <Lartza> I would also have though audio would still default to hdmi even with dtparam audio
[10:03] <Lartza> *thought
[10:04] <Habbie> Lartza, uhm, i said 'no analog audio'
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[10:04] <Habbie> Lartza, one of us is confused
[10:04] <myxenovia> yea headphone
[10:04] <Lartza> Habbie, Uhh I don't think so? I didn't know audio is enabled if hdmi is not connected
[10:05] <Lartza> Okay my second message doesn't make much sense but it is kind of true probably :P
[10:05] <Lartza> pulse would default to HDMI possibly
[10:05] <Habbie> Lartza, so here's some indirect information - if i boot with hdmi disconnected, i cannot drive RGB LEDs over PWM because something else is messing with the PWM
[10:06] <mlelstv> audio
[10:06] <mlelstv> don't use audio or force it to hdmi
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[10:07] <Habbie> mlelstv, uhuh
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[10:07] <mlelstv> depending on how you use PWM it is sufficient to have used audio before to get problems.
[10:07] <Habbie> that's my impression, yes
[10:08] <Habbie> this machine had retropie installed
[10:08] <Habbie> starting on boot
[10:08] <Habbie> even if i killed it, pwm would be a mess
[10:08] <mlelstv> that's because audio keeps the PWM stuff active to avoid clicks.
[10:08] <Habbie> ack
[10:08] <mlelstv> you can force it to release the hardware completely (and may get a click then).
[10:08] <Habbie> uhuh
[10:09] <mlelstv> but since audio also produces PWM output, it's better to not use it at all when you use PWM for something else.
[10:09] <Habbie> indeed
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[14:47] <MrCrackPotBuilde> if i wanted to control some servos and esc's using a raspberry pi could i set up a server to receive commands then pass them on to the desired servo or esc
[14:48] <MrCrackPotBuilde> i think i have 5 servos and 4 esc's then later an extra stepper motor
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[14:50] <MrCrackPotBuilde> I had an idea of using QT creator to build a gui with telemetry, video, planes gyro info, speed, battery life, and finally server connection speed and info.
[14:50] <MrCrackPotBuilde> have it connect using UDP to the receiving pi server.
[14:51] <ShorTie> pi not gonna be fast enough for that i don't think, try arduino maybe
[14:51] <Habbie> ShorTie, in what way would it not be fast enough?
[14:51] <MrCrackPotBuilde> arduino is tough though to get a server
[14:51] <Habbie> just add networking
[14:51] <Habbie> or buy esp8266
[14:51] <MrCrackPotBuilde> to control the plane via 4g data its going to need a pi not an arduino
[14:51] <ShorTie> response times to servo
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[14:52] <MrCrackPotBuilde> it will be connected to an external 4g dongle
[14:52] <MrCrackPotBuilde> so internet is not a problem
[14:53] <Habbie> i don't see a problem with using a pi for this
[14:53] <MrCrackPotBuilde> the problem is how to get the server to receive commands and then output those signals to the servo or motor needed
[14:53] <Habbie> you do that by writing code
[14:53] <Habbie> after making sure pi GPIO can do what you want
[14:53] <Habbie> that's step one
[14:53] <MrCrackPotBuilde> no i know that
[14:53] <MrCrackPotBuilde> GPIO can no problem using WPM
[14:53] <MrCrackPotBuilde> or WMP
[14:53] <Habbie> only one PWM pin on Pi
[14:53] <Habbie> unless you do it in software
[14:54] <Habbie> which is a bad idea
[14:54] <MrCrackPotBuilde> yer too much lag
[14:54] <Habbie> not lag
[14:54] <Habbie> jitter
[14:54] <MrCrackPotBuilde> maybe add a servo and motor board
[14:54] <Habbie> that would make sense
[14:54] <Habbie> but depending on what kind of board that is
[14:54] <Habbie> you may no longer need the pi
[14:54] <MrCrackPotBuilde> hahaha
[14:55] <MrCrackPotBuilde> will always need the pi for the 4g data transmition
[14:55] <MrCrackPotBuilde> the board you get for the arduino i dont like its a little too unstable and i would like the plane back
[14:55] <Habbie> ah
[14:56] <MrCrackPotBuilde> plus the pi could handle the server much more efficiently
[14:56] * ShorTie snickers, plane back
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[14:57] <MrCrackPotBuilde> how many sensors can i use on one pi
[14:57] <Habbie> it depends
[14:57] <Habbie> if you have a nice extra board that can expose 50 sensors over one i2c or spi connection
[14:58] <Habbie> you can have 50
[14:58] <Habbie> if you want them all directly on pi gpio, there are various limits
[14:58] <CannedSpinach> are there any mods from the RPi forums online?
[14:58] <Habbie> CannedSpinach, why?
[14:58] <CannedSpinach> I tried to post a thread yesterday and it's still waiting to be confirmed
[15:00] <Habbie> ah
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[15:01] <gordonDrogon> there are 2 hardware PWM channels on the Pi, however for RC servo control using something like servoblaster or pigpio will let you do more than that. IMO it's better to use one of the dedicated I2C servo boards. The main issue you'll get is jitter and latency in the kernel between reading sensors and updatin the ESCs/Servos leading to instability - I have seen drone control purely on a Pi though, but it won't be as easy as using a dedicat
[15:01] <gordonDrogon> ed �Controller to do the motion control bit.
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[15:14] <BCMM> gordonDrogon: curious about the drone control - was it using linux, or something like FreeRTOS?
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[15:23] <MrCrackPotBuilde> hhhmmmm im really trying my hardest not to use a pixhawk haha i want it to be diy and i have a fair few arduino lying around
[15:24] <MrCrackPotBuilde> i was going to use the arduino to control and the pi as the server
[15:24] <MrCrackPotBuilde> but how would i get the server to tell the arduino
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[15:42] <ali1234> MrCrackPotBuilde: https://hackaday.io/project/10836-pirover
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[16:06] <gordonDrogon> bcmm Think it was Linux. it was a emo (that caught fire) at one of the cambridge jams a few years back.
[16:07] <gordonDrogon> MrCrackPotBuilde, I was involved in a drone project using Atmegas a few years back. it works fine, but keep the code tight - e.g. see ardupilor mega (or whatever it is now)
[16:07] <gordonDrogon> Pi to arduino - serial is fastest and easiest.
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[17:10] <weijiekoh> Hey all
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[17:11] <weijiekoh> I just wrote a Monero cold wallet generator as a Raspbian image specifically for the non-wireless Pi Zero but haven't had the chance to test it on the actual device because I'm still waiting for it to arrive in the mail. Would anyone like to give it a go? I'd really appreciate it :)
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[17:12] <Habbie> how specific to the non-wireless pi zero is it?
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[17:13] <weijiekoh> Habbie: there's no technical reason for it to be specifically for the Pi Zero, but from a security pov, the non-wireless Pi Zero is great because it's airgapped by default.
[17:13] <Habbie> of course
[17:14] <Habbie> how would one use the wallet?
[17:14] <weijiekoh> anyway it works on my RPi 3 Model B v1.2
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[17:14] <weijiekoh> Habbit: 1) verify & burn the .img, 2) insert microSD, 3) plug in HDMI and USB, 4) write down the private seed and public address
[17:15] <weijiekoh> all documented here: https://github.com/weijiekoh/malvarma
[17:15] <Habbie> i mean
[17:15] <Habbie> reading
[17:15] <Habbie> ok, so that gives you a paper wallet
[17:15] <Habbie> to which you can receive monero
[17:16] <weijiekoh> yup!
[17:16] <Habbie> and if i ever want to spend, i type the words into a monero client and spend all of it
[17:16] <Habbie> and make a new paper wallet?
[17:16] <weijiekoh> yeah, these paper wallets are meant for long-term storage.
[17:16] <Habbie> ack
[17:17] <Habbie> and perhaps accumulation
[17:17] <Habbie> but not spending
[17:17] <weijiekoh> yup
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[19:23] <spacerabbit> it works on my RPi 3 Model B v1.2 > doesnt mean it will on the rpi0
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