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IRC Log for 2018-01-26

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[0:13] <meshnetn00b> Has anyone here used Processing to display sensor data from the GPIO pins? Or do you have some other scheme you prefer?
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[0:18] * ShorTie wonders what cha mean by Processing to display sensor data
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[0:21] <akk> meshnetn00b: I've read data with python and displayed it in a python gui.
[0:21] <akk> I'm not a fan of Processing.
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[0:27] <puppycodes> hello
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[0:27] <Nauti> What do you prefer? I actually looked around for this today. I need to find some convenient way of doing a greenhouse automation project and I've only worked with home assistant for automation and showing in a gui or an app
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[0:27] <Nauti> It's just that I sincerely hate yaml
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[0:28] <Nauti> I was thinking of trying out mydevices cayenne, it looks good and easy enough to use. It'll be used by my father in the end
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[0:28] <puppycodes> curious if anyone has any good resources for raspberry pi controlled valves
[0:29] <puppycodes> and other industrial components
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[0:30] <puppycodes> building a medical device prototype
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[0:36] <Nauti> puppycodes: any valve? Just get a magnetic solenoid valve, there are a lot of 12 V ones
[0:37] <puppycodes> Nauti: just looking for somewhere thats got a lot of compatible resources
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[0:37] <puppycodes> Nauti: ok cool i'll check that out
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[0:37] <puppycodes> Nauti: thank u!
[0:39] <meshnetn00b> ShorTie: Processing is a language and IDE built around making art with code.
[0:39] <meshnetn00b> akk: Could you point me in a direction to do such a thing myself?
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[0:40] <puppycodes> i found http://www.littelfuse.com/
[0:41] <puppycodes> this is kinda what i mean, if anyone knows a place i can purchase medical electronic supply?
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[0:42] <puppycodes> or what a good place to start might be
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[0:45] <TheG0ldenG0d> I have a 256GB microsd card. Would it work in my pi ?
[0:46] <meshnetn00b> which version of pi?
[0:47] <meshnetn00b> https://safetomatic.com/best-sd-card-for-raspberry-pi-3/
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[0:48] <TheG0ldenG0d> i have a PI B+ and a PI3
[0:48] <meshnetn00b> https://elinux.org/RPi_SD_cards#Which_SD_card.3F
[0:48] <meshnetn00b> PI B+ uses a standard SD card, doesn't it?
[0:48] <TheG0ldenG0d> basically what I want to know is what the maximum size storage that the PI will recognize
[0:49] <meshnetn00b> It depends on the card technology, not specifically size. But the size is an indicator of the technology.
[0:49] <Nauti> I am struggling with a Samsung evo+ right now
[0:49] <meshnetn00b> Go to the second link I pasted, click on the Size column to sort by size.
[0:49] <akk> meshnetn00b: It depends on what you want to do. If it's just collect some data then graph it, look into matplotlib.
[0:49] <Nauti> I can't do anything with it. I tried writing an image to it with dd and now it's read-only
[0:49] <TheG0ldenG0d> its a samsung 256 GB card
[0:49] <Nauti> Doesn't seem like anything I do with it helps :(
[0:49] <akk> meshnetn00b: If you want to do graphics that constantly change with the sensor, then you'll probably need to pick a GUI library.
[0:50] <Nauti> It's not that old that it should give up from old age
[0:50] <meshnetn00b> akk: That's exactly what I want. Someone in ##electronics suggested MQTT, so I may look at that, too...
[0:50] <Nauti> And I just got a new one. I got a 32 GB, saved the image from this one, wrote it to the new one and thought I'd put this one in my other pi but now I still only have one micro SD card :(
[0:50] <akk> meshnetn00b: In python the main GUI options are Tk, GTK and Qt, so you could also look into basic tutorials for those three.
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[0:50] <meshnetn00b> Nauti: look for a physical lock on the card?
[0:51] <Nauti> Yeah it's unlocked. I tried out another adapter in case that was the fault
[0:51] <akk> meshnetn00b: Wait, are you trying to display directly from the pi, or trying to communicate sensor data to another machine that will display it? (Looking at MQTT which seems to be more for passing the data)
[0:51] <Nauti> Also tried it on a windows pc and my laptop running Ubuntu
[0:51] <meshnetn00b> Maybe toggle it a couple of times to be sure? Test by writing data from another computer?
[0:51] <meshnetn00b> akk: display directly from Pi.
[0:52] <Nauti> I do that through home assistant but I don't know what you're looking to use it for
[0:52] <meshnetn00b> akk: Pi will be receiving the data from ESP units scattered around the school.
[0:52] <akk> meshnetn00b: got it. Then yeah, you'll probably need to work with one of those three gui toolkits, though possibly you could do everything with matplotlib.
[0:52] <meshnetn00b> Nauti: How did it work on windows or linux?
[0:53] <akk> (I've done basic matplotlib but I don't know how hard it is to plot a constantly incoming stream of data)
[0:53] <meshnetn00b> akk: the data may only be updated once every 5 minutes or so... so it's not quite "constantly" streaming. :P
[0:54] <akk> meshnetn00b: At that rate, if you find that matplotlib works for you, you could just draw a new graph every 5 minutes.
[0:54] <akk> I'd probably look into that first, unless you want a more complicated GUI.
[0:54] <meshnetn00b> akk: I might do that. Seems about like what I had planned with Processing, but I wasn't sure how to interface it with the data. I understand Python has some libraries that may help.
[0:55] <Nauti> meshnetn00b: to view? Works fine on both
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[0:55] <Nauti> And it's supposed tobe very simple as well
[0:55] <akk> Python has libraries for everything. :) https://www.xkcd.com/353/
[0:55] <meshnetn00b> akk: Well, I was thinking of just displaying a .jpg of the school map, then creating panes over each room in whatever framework I use.
[0:55] <Nauti> I am struggling with yaml so I can't agree
[0:55] <meshnetn00b> Nauti: no, to write.
[0:56] <akk> meshnetn00b: Ah, then you probably will need one of the gui frameworks, maybe combined with matplotlib.
[0:56] <akk> TkInter might be the simplest one to start with, mostly because it doesn't change much (gtk and qt both change all the time so tutorials tend to get out of date).
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[0:57] <meshnetn00b> Yeah, it's not my bread and butter, so I'd like to find a horse I can ride over and over again.
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[0:58] <akk> TkInter is the least flexible of the three, but for relatively simple stuff it's probably the easiest to get started with.
[0:59] <TheG0ldenG0d> do people still develop GUIs using TK?
[0:59] <meshnetn00b> I may be about to
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[1:00] <akk> Small ones, sure. Probably not big complex apps.
[1:00] <meshnetn00b> Cause all I need are rectangles that I can change the color of. :P I'll think about adding text later... or first... or at the same time, I don't know. If I can change the color, it seems trivial for the next step to be to actually display the data.
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[4:02] <BenderRodriguez> .butt
[4:02] <BenderRodriguez> butt
[4:02] <BenderRodriguez> butte
[4:02] <BenderRodriguez> .trigger butt
[4:02] <BenderRodriguez> oh
[4:02] <BenderRodriguez> wrong channel
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[4:34] <Tenacious-Techhu> Anyone know any good XML editors for Raspberry Pi?
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[4:35] <WilliamC> I'm looking for a good SNES emulator for the Pi, I'm having issues with the sound skipping for some reason
[4:36] <Tenacious-Techhu> WilliamC, you need to specify which game you want to run correctly; some games have different challenges than others, and sometimes those challenges are insurmountable in Raspberry Pi hardware (or any hardware, for that matter).
[4:37] <WilliamC> It's a RaspberryPi 3
[4:37] <WilliamC> I'm messing with SNES9x2002 and ARMSNES
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[4:38] <Tenacious-Techhu> WilliamC, I understood that from your question; but different games have different performance issues, so the particular game matters a great deal as to whether and/or which emulator can solve problems of a specific game.
[4:39] <WilliamC> Crono Trigger
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[4:45] <Tenacious-Techhu> WilliamC, you might want to try the #retroarch channel.
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[6:59] <thomas_25> I've heard many complaints about SD cards dying and all but also rasbian's default fs is ext3 instead of a fs for flash? how come?
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[7:00] <thomas_25> becaues of all the horror stories, i feel very uncomfortable each time i see the yellow LED blinking :)
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[7:48] <wallmonitorcable> When I type "shutdown -p now" in FreeBSD on Raspberry Pi, the power isn't turned off. IS this because the RPI is so primitive that it lacks this "fancy" feature?
[7:48] <wallmonitorcable> Only when I pull out the physical wire does it shut down for real?
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[7:53] <Xark> wallmonitorcable: Yep. No way to shut down its powersupply.
[7:55] <wallmonitorcable> Xark: :(
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[8:08] <Xark> wallmonitorcable: If it really bothers you, there are some add-ons that will address this.
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[8:11] <wallmonitorcable> Xark: Hardware add-ons?
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[8:23] <Xark> wallmonitorcable: Yes
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[8:27] <wallmonitorcable> ...
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[10:07] <gordonDrogon> wallmonitorcable, it's not about it being "primitive" it's all about it being made to a budget. $35 in this case. However when the Pi is in a 'halt' state it's drawing less current that a typical PC when in power-off state, due to the 5v standby being generated by the PC's PSU and used by on-board circuitry to do stuff like wake-on-lan and run the stuff that monitors the "power" button
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[10:13] <wallmonitorcable> Hmm. I see.
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[10:18] <g4mbit> good morning
[10:19] <wallmonitorcable> Well, at least I know it actually works now... but I'm anything but happy with the OS (FreeBSD).
[10:19] <wallmonitorcable> I spent 17 years slaving away trying to figure out how to secure and use the OS, which is why I stopped dealing with servers entirely.
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[10:20] <wallmonitorcable> I tried the new generation 11 (for RPI-B) but they still don't even sync the clock out of the box.
[10:20] <wallmonitorcable> I can't deal with all these unknowns and security risks.
[10:20] <wallmonitorcable> Goes very much for all Linux distros as well.
[10:20] <wallmonitorcable> And all the labor needed to set up and maintain these things.
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[10:23] <xdb> wallmonitorcable: what's the trouble?
[10:25] <wallmonitorcable> xdb: I wish there were some OS I could run on my Raspberry Pi with requires no setup (essentially) and definitely no maintenance.
[10:25] <wallmonitorcable> I want it to run itself out of the box and keep itself secure.
[10:26] <wallmonitorcable> And I only need PHP (CLI) and PostgreSQL.
[10:26] <wallmonitorcable> Which I also want installable in an automated, abstracted manner.
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[10:27] <xdb> wallmonitorcable: not to be a smartass, but not sure such thing exists in any other area, let alone computers :) it's not hard to install it / keep it safe, if you ask me, though.
[10:28] <xdb> wallmonitorcable: but then again, depends on your "security configuration"
[10:29] <wallmonitorcable> xdb: It must be fully secure and not require me to know about 1000000000000 different things that they do by default that is insane.
[10:29] <wallmonitorcable> A properly hardened, tight, minimal, *secure* OS.
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[10:31] <xdb> yeah doesn't exist, you have to configure it yourself ... which is a good thing, why would someone else be configuring my security details :) I am happy to do that myself
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[10:33] <shiftplusone> An OS that doesn't require setup would only be suitable for the person who decided what the default setup should be.
[10:35] <Aph3x-WL> why would you run freebsd if you want something secure? :s
[10:35] <wallmonitorcable> ...
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[10:35] <wallmonitorcable> Idiotic nonsense replies.
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[10:36] <shiftplusone> Replying in kind.
[10:37] <Aph3x-WL> i might feel insulted if i believed that person knew what he was talking about
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[10:38] <shiftplusone> Noticed him here yesterday making similar comments.
[10:40] <xdb> it's WorstHumanEver, entire IRC knows him for his saltiness
[10:41] <Aph3x-WL> ah that's who that was
[10:41] <xdb> and everything he asks is: "Give me X, I don't want to do ANYTHING, it has to be THE BEST."
[10:42] <xdb> - but, no such thing exist, you have to do at least something?
[10:42] <xdb> - fuck you, added to ignore list
[10:42] <xdb> s/exist/exists/
[10:42] <shiftplusone> channel rules and all that
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[10:43] <Aph3x-WL> yeah i got into it with him a few times last year in ##security and ##programming about similar things
[10:43] <xdb> it's either [1] daddy-issued 12-y-o school girl [2] dad of the daddy-issued 12-y-o school girl
[10:43] <Aph3x-WL> always rages off
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[11:34] <MacGeek> I missed the drama :(
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[11:38] <shiftplusone> This probably isn't the place to go for drama.
[11:41] <gordonDrogon> Pi controlled stage lighting, anyone? ;-)
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[11:43] <shiftplusone> http://www.instructables.com/id/Raspberry-Pi-as-a-DMX-light-controller/
[11:45] <gordonDrogon> well yes, but it was really in reference to the drama ... with a ;-)
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[11:50] <shiftplusone> no worries, I got that... was just curious how many pi DMX controllers there were already.
[11:51] <gordonDrogon> I get a lot of email about it - I tell them to bu a USB DMX interface rather than try to make one, or worse, use the on-board serial port.
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[11:52] <Lisa_Fox> I've seen a stage lighting control board before on a machine I owned. It came with an Apple IIe I was given some years ago. I don't think it was DMX though! ;-)
[11:53] <gordonDrogon> I designed simple one for the Apple II many (many!) year ago.
[11:53] <Lisa_Fox> cool!
[11:55] <gordonDrogon> 16 channels, just on-off - using a 6522.
[11:55] <gordonDrogon> would have been about 1980 or 81.
[11:55] <gordonDrogon> ah well, fun day.
[11:56] <mfa298> oddly enough one of the things on my project list is doing some PWM stuff with RGB leds, and the add on to that was to interface via DMX - but then I've already got bits of DMX stuff to interface with.
[11:57] <Lisa_Fox> The closest I've come to is just a control program for the X10 Home automation system, again on the Apple II with a serial X10 interface on it. I want to do something similar on the Pi eventually.
[11:58] <gordonDrogon> mfa298, the pimoroni blinkt led strips are fun to play with.
[11:58] <gordonDrogon> Lisa_Fox, Apple II to X10 ... there's an interesting mix of old and new technologies...
[11:59] <Lisa_Fox> X10 is very old from the late 70s
[11:59] <gordonDrogon> is it? I thought it was relatively new radio stuff.. Hmm..
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[12:00] <Lisa_Fox> Yes, X-10 keeps making stuff that runs on the same powerline protocol since then. the wireless version is a little newer though.
[12:01] <gordonDrogon> however a lot of stuff round about then simply didn't make it over the atlantic and when the bbc micro came out, almost all US stuff was more or less forgotten. (other than the C64)
[12:01] <shauno> X10 isn't american either :)
[12:01] <Lisa_Fox> a company in Scotland developed the protocol originally and BSR made the interfaces for the US market at least since the early 80s
[12:02] * gordonDrogon boggles.
[12:02] <Lisa_Fox> I know there's a 220v/240v version of it too, just familar with the 120volt version though
[12:02] <gordonDrogon> wonder how I missed that then - living in Scotland at the time...
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[12:04] <Lisa_Fox> Pico Electronics developed the X-10 protocol.
[12:05] <Lisa_Fox> It's a simple thing to hack with, but there are better home automation systems now that will send ACK responses at least.
[12:05] <gordonDrogon> sure.
[12:05] <Lisa_Fox> It's a pain to write for a system when the modules don't comfirm if they received the command.
[12:05] <gordonDrogon> I guess in '75 I was only 13/14 at the time :)
[12:06] <Lisa_Fox> I was just born in 1975. :-)
[12:06] <shiftplusone> Is that '75 as in 1875?
[12:06] <MacGeek> I wasn't even born
[12:07] <gordonDrogon> shiftplusone, suuuuure .....
[12:07] <shiftplusone> I'll get my coat.
[12:07] <Lisa_Fox> ha ha :-)
[12:07] <gordonDrogon> still - todays project - build a serial interface board for my PDP-8 and hook it up to a Pi + 7" touchscreen pretending to be a vt220 ...
[12:08] <Lisa_Fox> 1875, yeah I got the new model Analytical Engine going now! :-D
[12:08] <Lisa_Fox> gordonDrogon, awesome! Which version of the 8 do you have?
[12:09] <Lisa_Fox> I'm a Computer Historian
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[12:09] <Lisa_Fox> oh i was being serious, I guess i didn't have enough sleep
[12:09] <Lisa_Fox> ;-)
[12:09] <gordonDrogon> I have an 8/a with 16KW and a couple of PiDP8's which don't really count.
[12:09] <Lisa_Fox> Oh cool!
[12:09] <Lisa_Fox> I miss my 11/23PLUS
[12:10] <gordonDrogon> I have an offer on an 11/44 (3 cabinet system) but don't think I have enough space for it -
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[12:10] <Lisa_Fox> I had most of an 11/70 but I gave it to another collector because I didn't have the room.
[12:11] <Lisa_Fox> back in the late 90s
[12:11] <gordonDrogon> the chap who did the PiDP8 is doing an 11/70 panel - Pi Zero inside like the PiDP8.
[12:12] <Lisa_Fox> whoo! That's aweome!
[12:12] <gordonDrogon> the 11/44 doesn't really have much in the way of blinkenlights though. I think the 11/70 was about the last switch & LED model.
[12:13] <Lisa_Fox> the 11/23 is devoid of blinkenlights as well.
[12:13] <gordonDrogon> My 8/a has the keypad and 4-digit display.
[12:14] <Lisa_Fox> The 8/A looks a lot like an 11/34 panelwise.
[12:14] <gordonDrogon> https://lion.drogon.net/IMG_20171122_113821.jpg
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[12:15] <Lisa_Fox> that looks great!
[12:16] <gordonDrogon> I currently have the panel off it and the IO board out so I can connect in some ribbon cable for the serial port.
[12:16] <Lisa_Fox> ah
[12:17] <gordonDrogon> I'm told by the chap I bought it from that there's another one still in-use 24/7 - the 8/a's were frequently used as industrial controllers for CNC machines.
[12:18] <gordonDrogon> https://lion.drogon.net/IMG_20180118_200710.jpg <- is the pdp 11/70 panel for the Pi
[12:19] <Lisa_Fox> That looks like the console from a real 11/70
[12:19] <gordonDrogon> it's pretty close. it's smaller though - no scale to that photo (sorry). Oscar even managed to get the right colours for the switches.
[12:20] <Lisa_Fox> That's amazing it looks so close
[12:20] <gordonDrogon> the shell is injection moulded.
[12:20] <Lisa_Fox> I'd love to own one of these!
[12:20] <gordonDrogon> he'll be selling them in a few months time.
[12:21] <Lisa_Fox> very neat! I will start saving up for one i think.
[12:21] <Lisa_Fox> Thank you for sharing it!
[12:21] <gordonDrogon> https://youtu.be/qFt_9LsAgso
[12:22] <gordonDrogon> that's a video of my PiDP8 on-top of a real PDP-8 - the 11/7 is the same size, so you can get an idea of scale from that.
[12:23] <Lisa_Fox> I have seen the PiDP8 before. yeah i can see the difference in scale.
[12:23] <gordonDrogon> This: http://obsolescence.wixsite.com/obsolescence is Oscars site - keep an eye on it for the 11/70 panel.
[12:23] <Lisa_Fox> I didn't know he making a 11 version
[12:23] <Lisa_Fox> Bookmarked!
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[12:27] <gordonDrogon> keep your soldering iron on standby :)
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[12:29] <Lisa_Fox> Not a problem! I love kits1
[12:29] <Lisa_Fox> ! not 1
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[12:56] <Lisa_Fox> BBL - need to move the computer - I'm doing Winter cleaning in my Workshop Lab.
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[13:08] * ShorTie Thinks, interesting http://raspbian-us.ngc292.space
[13:09] <gordonDrogon> why is it interesting? It's a few years old by the looks of it ..
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[13:11] <ShorTie> just never saw it to get a file from is all
[13:11] <ShorTie> mlocate
[13:12] <gordonDrogon> looks like someone setup a mirror some time ago.
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[13:14] <ShorTie> cool, just all the times i've got stuff, just never seen it before and it twas just that once
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[13:18] <Nauti> I really don't feel like getting a new SD card if they tend to die as quick as my last one did. I'm looking into SSD and SATA -> USB, but it seems it will be quite a lot more power consuming. I'm going to run it on 300 W solar but it feels good to minimze it. Do anyone have experience with running from an SSD or Msata SSD? I'm going to do it on a budget and I don't care enough for me to motivate buying
[13:18] <Nauti> any high-end products. Just functional and more reliable than micro-SD is perfectly fine with me. Anyone know anything about power efficient SSD:s?
[13:18] <Nauti> I've just read about the older Samsung 860 being very efficient, but I don't know if there are better nowadays
[13:19] <gordonDrogon> what are you doing that wears out SD cards?
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[13:20] <Nauti> No idea. Yesterday I received a new SD card and I have to RPi:s so I was just going to copy the image from my old one to my new one. New one is up and running. Old one became read-proof and I can't write to it. All I did was to copy an image from it, then I tried writing the Raspbian image to it and it just refused. Before that it's been sitting in my RPi for about 3 months doing nothing special
[13:20] <Nauti> whatsoever.
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[13:21] <Nauti> So now I'm stuck with one SD-card even though I got a second one just to be able to use the other one for a project I have in mind :/
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[13:22] <Nauti> Maybe I was just lucky but when I Googled around for hours for a potential fix, I saw how extensive the SD card failures and disappointment was
[13:22] <clemens3> just one moment ago, I put a sd card via usb adapter into an external usb adapter with power, which also supports the linux disk with the root system. I just touched it, and then udev lost contact to the disk..
[13:23] <clemens3> i went to external usb disk also to avoid sd wear
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[13:23] <Lartza> Nauti, Crappy SD cards? No warranty?
[13:23] <clemens3> but seems usb is a big problem of itself
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[13:24] <clemens3> is there a way to attach a sata disk instead?
[13:24] <clemens3> maybe i should try with ssd via usb..
[13:24] <gordonDrogon> only with a usb <> sata interface device
[13:25] <clemens3> hmm, i want to make the raspberry my main desktop, but so far after a few days, something like this happens regularly..
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[13:31] <Nauti> Lartza: Samsung evo+, so no noname brand from China. I probably had warranty, but it's over a year old, it's just been sitting in a Pi in a drawer for most of that time. So I can't ask for warranty now. I thought I'd be a cheeky buggah and order a new one and claim it faulty but they stopped selling the 16 GB cards x)
[13:31] <Nauti> clemens3: sata -> usb adapter. I'm also looking at mSATA SSD's
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[13:32] <Nauti> They'd be more convenient if you're keeping the Pi in something which I am and are space limited
[13:32] <clemens3> Nauti: thanks, but so no way to avoid the usb adapter
[13:32] <Nauti> I've counted on having just enough space for everything and with my MOSFET board it'll be completely full
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[13:32] <Nauti> Now I need to squeeze in an ssd as well x/
[13:33] <Nauti> clemens3: you'd have to get a banana pi or something with SATA connections. Otherwise there is no way. Also with the USB2.0 limitation of the RPi 3 you'll have even more losses in speed
[13:33] <Nauti> But if you got a Raspberry pi then you need to go for SATA -> USB
[13:33] <Lartza> Nauti, Seems samsung probably offers one year warrant for that so yeah unless you are in a country that mandages 2 year warranty :S
[13:33] <clemens3> Nauti: yes, I think I have to seriously look at them.. just maybe they are less stable in other areas than the pi..
[13:33] <Lartza> Nauti, I mean banana pi has the same losses
[13:33] <Nauti> I got an old SATA -> USB unit that I found in the garbage room. I'm going to disassemble it and see if the controller PCB is small enough to put in my RPi
[13:34] <Nauti> In that case that's what I'm doing
[13:34] <Nauti> Lartza: I know very little about that board so. But I thought SATA meant SATA support and no on-board adapter
[13:34] <Lartza> Nope, most ARM boards just have integrated adapters
[13:34] <Nauti> And the write/read speed of SATA and USB2.0 isn't really comparable?
[13:34] <Lartza> If they have "SATA"
[13:36] <Nauti> Lartza: I never knew that. I shall check when it was bought, but I suspect I'd have to go to the company and ask the company for advice and then it's all up to them in the end? I've had so many bad warranty experiences. I rarely buy electronics but when I do I always end up in some conflict with a shitty company that is servile when you need information for a buy but rude, arrogant and hard to reach
[13:36] <Nauti> when something went wrong
[13:36] <Nauti> Lartza: then there's no point whatsoever :S
[13:37] <Lartza> Nauti, Take me, who is in Finland. If I had a 1 year old SSD that just stopped working, I could just return it to the store
[13:37] <Nauti> clemens3: I don't know. I honestly haven't looked much. I got two Pi's so I'll work with them. Also I am quite bad at researching so I'm happy about all the easy and accessible guides therer are for Raspberry pi projects
[13:37] <Lartza> Because 2 year warranty is required
[13:37] <Nauti> That's great to hear. I'll call the company directly and ask
[13:37] <Lartza> What country are you in?
[13:38] <clemens3> Nauti: yeah, thanks.. I guess most people just have something else as their main machine and don't mind rebooting every other week or so..
[13:38] <Lartza> I think Germany has a similar law aswell but
[13:39] <Lartza> clemens3, My headless pi has been up for two weeks now :S
[13:40] <clemens3> Lartza: my macbook is now up for 122 days..
[13:40] <Lartza> Well... why though
[13:40] <Lartza> :/
[13:41] <Lartza> I need to reboot my dedicated server for updates more often than that
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[13:42] <gordonDrogon> I have not had any special issues running Pi's for over a year without rebooting.
[13:42] <MrCrackPotBuilde> question why are there so many tutorials on web servers for controling gpio pins and other function but i cant find any using application servers
[13:42] <MrCrackPotBuilde> i want to build a client server program with live video sensor readings etc and have the server control the gpio pins
[13:43] <MrCrackPotBuilde> also using pwm signals haha
[13:43] <gordonDrogon> MrCrackPotBuilde, maybe an 'application server' (whatever that is), is not a Pi specific thing - generic Linux? broaden the search?
[13:43] <gordonDrogon> why 'haha' ?
[13:43] <MrCrackPotBuilde> nah web server and app server are basically the same
[13:43] <gordonDrogon> the Pi has 2 hardware PWM pins.
[13:43] <MrCrackPotBuilde> the haha is because its a tall order
[13:44] <MrCrackPotBuilde> but i want to control the pi using a GUI qt application
[13:44] <MrCrackPotBuilde> not a web application
[13:44] <clemens3> gordonDrogon: you use it as a desktop or some dedicated server/purpose and from sdcard for that?
[13:44] <gordonDrogon> so.. go study QT .. it's just a set of c++ libriares..
[13:44] <MrCrackPotBuilde> but i cant find any tutorials on sending multiple types of info then have them perform tasks on the server side
[13:45] <gordonDrogon> clemens3, no - all 'headless' I have thought about a Pi for a desktop, but it won't quite do what I like to do on my desktop (which is Linux)
[13:45] <MrCrackPotBuilde> no the pi is the server side and the laptop the client
[13:45] <MrCrackPotBuilde> with a web server i would have thought there is too much lag
[13:45] <gordonDrogon> MrCrackPotBuilde, server/client, client/server - it's just some tcp sockets - pick your library and go for it. plenty of examples online for simple stuff liek that.
[13:45] <MrCrackPotBuilde> also im better at GUI progrmming than web pages
[13:46] <MrCrackPotBuilde> my problem is not the connection
[13:46] <clemens3> gordonDrogon: ok
[13:46] <MrCrackPotBuilde> its the sending lots of different data that then processed in different ways
[13:46] <MrCrackPotBuilde> data serialization
[13:46] <Nauti> Lartza: Sweden
[13:47] <MrCrackPotBuilde> i could use json pickle i could even use qt's own framework
[13:47] <Nauti> clemens3: why the need for rebooting? I mean I don't mind that but I dont' see the need
[13:47] <MrCrackPotBuilde> but no matter what language i use i cant wrap my head around it
[13:47] <Lartza> Nauti, In that case you have three years of warranty apparently :)
[13:48] <Nauti> I've had problems with my Pi going on for long because it goes unresponsive for som reason I can't figure out. It's still running but it's not reachable from the outside
[13:48] <gordonDrogon> warranty - like dive computers ... lifetime warranty, or until it gets wet ;-)
[13:48] <Nauti> Lartza: I'll call them
[13:49] <gordonDrogon> an issue with warranty on small value things is looking at the small print - it'll probably have some definition of acceptible use and you might find using them in a Pi is outside their scope, however it's worth a punt to see what happens ...
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[13:49] <Lartza> gordonDrogon, The store might not care though really
[13:49] <gordonDrogon> and even on big things -
[13:49] <gordonDrogon> ^that
[13:49] <clemens3> Nauti: no, my goal is to have a stable system.. but so far I haven't managed to get that with a pi
[13:49] <Lartza> Your SD card is defective? Grab a new one from the shelf
[13:49] <Lartza> It's the law so it's timeconsuming to start querying
[13:50] <gordonDrogon> My Mile fridge/freezer failed recently - it was < 4 years old and was covered by the (former) UK Sale of Goods act, but the shop refused to do anything - the advice I got was to sue the shop.
[13:50] <SirLagz> gordonDrogon: smells fishy
[13:50] <gordonDrogon> SirLagz, it's fairly standard here, sadly )-:
[13:51] <SirLagz> gordonDrogon: wouldn't be surprised if it was the same here too though
[13:51] <Nauti> "We got too many mails so we're closing down the support for today" Guess I won't know for a while
[13:51] <gordonDrogon> google for tales of woe converning pc world, currys, etc.
[13:51] <Nauti> Lartza: where did you find that information?
[13:51] <Lartza> Finnish Competition and Consumer Authority is helpful before any court
[13:51] <Lartza> Nauti, https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/consumers/shopping/guarantees-returns/sweden/index_en.htm
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[13:55] <Nauti> gordonDrogon: if they believe the fact that it's mostly been sitting unused until a couple of months ago they should see that it failed prematurely
[13:57] <Nauti> But the error was so confusing. Suddenly I couldn't write to it as a card but I could write to one of the two partitions on it
[13:57] <Nauti> Until I tried a fix online that made both unwriteable
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[14:17] <shiftplusone> gordonDrogon: You actually need to sue them for anything to happen? In Australia, you can contact the government watchdog which monitors that kind of thing and they are sometimes actually useful.
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[14:18] <shiftplusone> I seem to recall UK having something similar
[14:19] <Nauti> And now I got a frickin' invoice for a thing I bought on Ebay last week. Where I have to pay VAT, a handling cost and then VAT on the frickin' handling cost. Why does it feel like the bad things are piling up x)
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[14:20] <gordonDrogon> shiftplusone, more or less, yes. they refused to do anything - all I could do would be to call the police and tell them they were breaking the law - the police would then tell me "it's a civil matter, sir" and leave me to it.
[14:21] <gordonDrogon> there are documented cases where the shop has called the police to try to get rid of the customer too.
[14:21] <redrabbit> still running but it's not reachable from the outside > psu issues?
[14:22] <shiftplusone> seems like there should be a government ombudsman for that kind of thing
[14:22] <redrabbit> i get the same problem with my camera rpi0w
[14:22] <redrabbit> but i suspect the psu
[14:22] <shiftplusone> https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/consumer/
[14:22] <shiftplusone> "Get help from Citizens Advice about your consumer rights. They can also refer your complaint to local Trading Standards officers who may then investigate on your behalf."
[14:22] <redrabbit> gordonDrogon: you are basically pwned
[14:23] <redrabbit> i had a 10yr old miele washing machine, i ordered a second hand control card to repair it
[14:23] <redrabbit> find the problem and get the piece
[14:23] <gordonDrogon> shiftplusone, "may investigate".
[14:23] <shiftplusone> worth a shot
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[14:23] <gordonDrogon> redrabbit, yea, I had to fork out another 250 for the new controller card for my fridge/freezer )-:
[14:24] <redrabbit> id go for DIY repair tbh
[14:24] <redrabbit> the law dont care about the small people
[14:24] <redrabbit> =waste of time
[14:24] <gordonDrogon> shiftplusone, it's worth a shot .... if you have the energy to do it and keep on-top of it. these sorts of things can take months to resolve. I wanted my fridge to work.
[14:25] <redrabbit> its not worth it exept if you have time to _waste_
[14:25] <gordonDrogon> just google for examples of shops ignoring the sale of goods act. you'll find 1000's of cases, sadly.
[14:25] <gordonDrogon> b&q, pc world/currys seem good examples.
[14:25] <redrabbit> they dont give a f, they get away with it 100%
[14:25] <gordonDrogon> in my case it was a local shop we'd bought stuff from in the past, but now they'll not get another penny from me.
[14:26] <redrabbit> all you can do is give em the middle finger
[14:26] <Nauti> I found a really nice gaming monitor in the garbage room last week (and yesterday a 3000€ bike) and I wanted to troubleshoot it as well. Company said that all the service manuals are confidential and there is no information on the board or online that will help me with that specific board
[14:26] <redrabbit> and diy the repair
[14:26] <redrabbit> Nauti: obviously
[14:26] <redrabbit> :|
[14:27] <Nauti> I guess with a lot of research I could find something but it's so annoying when the companies will only help when you want to buy, but for maintenance or repairs, they're nowhere to be seen
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[14:27] <Nauti> redrabbit: some companies are perfectly fine with actually supporting their customers and helping them
[14:27] <redrabbit> yeah Nauti, its all about profit that's it
[14:27] <redrabbit> theses are rare
[14:28] <Nauti> But the electronics section of the business world just seems to be the most unhelpful
[14:28] <redrabbit> i have some high end vapes
[14:28] <redrabbit> every time i had an issue they helped me
[14:28] <Nauti> But maybe it's a general trend. I mean old cars the companies gave away everything on how to fix yourself and were very helpful with parts and all. Today it's impossible to do it yourself and you get no help
[14:28] <redrabbit> repaired it for free
[14:28] <redrabbit> gave me a new battery for free
[14:29] <redrabbit> new firmware for free
[14:29] <redrabbit> new internals for free
[14:29] <redrabbit> its kind of a 1 man operation though
[14:29] <redrabbit> makes a big difference
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[14:29] <redrabbit> you wont get this from a big box
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[19:50] <xdb> boze debilskog servera
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[20:02] <ShorTie> shiftplusone, who messed up the latest lite image ??
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[20:32] <Maai> oh dear having headphones connected to my TV (HDMI) produces no sound. headphones in the pi's headphone/camera 3.5mm hole is crackling up (mixed with normal sound)
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[20:59] <Maai> got it working! *right* *click* *speakericon* and click HDMI
[20:59] <Maai> it was before. i had to swap it over and check leads... wierd yes yes
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