#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2018-01-29

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[0:59] <Datz> Hi, I'm trying to run a script with php exec() to take a picture with a pi camera. I don't seem to be able to get any output though. Does www-data need to be added to a special group to gain access to the camera?
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[1:06] <shauno> probably group 'video', but check the ownership/permissions on /dev/vchiq, since that's the one most likely to trip you up
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[1:07] <Datz> ah ok. I did add www-data to video which didn't work. I'll look at /dev/vchiq thanks
[1:08] <shauno> have you restarted apache since then?
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[1:08] <Datz> I did not
[1:08] <Datz> I'll try that too
[1:09] <shauno> that'd be worth trying. I know when you change a user's groups, their current session doesn't benefit from it, they have to login again. so I'd assume restarting apache is the equivalent for httpd
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[1:12] <Datz> well, not at least the page doesn't refresh right away, which I'd think would indicate that the script is actually running. So I think I have some other issue not
[1:14] <Datz> the device: crw-rw---- 1 root video 247, 0 Jan 23 14:34 /dev/vchiq
[1:14] <Datz> that should be good?
[1:14] <Datz> guess I can add read to all
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[1:18] <Datz> Got it, thanks for the help shauno. www-data needed to be added to video, and www-data wasn't able to write to the directory I specified in the script.
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[13:44] <akinode> does anyone know if its possible to get access to a raspi terminal without wifi signal or additional monitor?
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[13:46] <shiftplusone> akinode: not quite sure what you're asking.
[13:46] <shiftplusone> The answer is 'yes' but, the how of it would depend on what you mean.
[13:47] <gordonDrogon> yea, more information needed ...
[13:47] <mfa298> you could use ethernet (assuming you enable ssh) or possibly serial (might require some changes first)
[13:47] <gordonDrogon> although I think the answer is to plug in ethernet and use ssh, etc.
[13:47] <mfa298> or type blind, but that's not recomended
[13:47] <gordonDrogon> :)
[13:47] <alpha080> or
[13:47] <alpha080> vnc
[13:47] <akinode> whats vnc?
[13:48] <gordonDrogon> it needs ethernet (or wi-fi) but tl;dr - remote screen keyboard software.
[13:48] <gordonDrogon> however: Raspi terminal: https://lion.drogon.net/IMG_20180128_095121.jpg
[13:48] <akinode> then i might as well just ssh with an ethernet cable
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[13:51] <gordonDrogon> you might as well.
[13:52] <_Jordan> is this place ask to ask? or just ask?
[13:52] <IT_Sean> Do not ask to ask. Just ask
[13:52] <_Jordan> Understood.
[13:53] <gordonDrogon> assuming you're asking about Pi related stuff that is ... ask about other stuff and the answers will be of variable quality.
[13:53] <IT_Sean> It's all in the rules, linked in the topic
[13:53] <_Jordan> when running screen. just blanks out and I can't see anything that I type.
[13:53] <gordonDrogon> don't run screen then ...
[13:53] <shiftplusone> ... I... I don't think that's the answer.
[13:54] <_Jordan> Does don't be a jerk apply here?
[13:54] <shiftplusone> _Jordan: what OS and where are you running screen from?
[13:54] <alpha080> R U input password?
[13:54] <_Jordan> raspbian stretch (lastest build) and runing screen from terminal controlled by VNC on a desktop
[13:55] <shiftplusone> I don't see any reason why that wouldn't work =/
[13:55] <_Jordan> Yeah seems to be something internally. my setup is just fine
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[14:00] <_Jordan> hullo?
[14:00] <_Jordan> Anyone got some decent experience with creating screen instances. Sorry for not being horribly specific.
[14:00] <rafalcpp> _Jordan: screen as in the gnu screen?
[14:00] <gordonDrogon> don't wory if it goes quiet.
[14:00] <shiftplusone> I've got no idea. Maybe somebody else may. It all just works for me
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[14:01] <gordonDrogon> I stopped using screen 25 years ago, sorrt.
[14:01] <rafalcpp> or screen as in the ssh text, or screen as in the actuall HDMI connected screen
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[14:01] <_Jordan> Screen as in the module. which activates a seperate instance of a terminal
[14:01] <_Jordan> gordonDrogon: understoof.
[14:01] <_Jordan> gordonDrogon: understood*
[14:01] <rafalcpp> _Jordan: screen module? what is that
[14:02] <rafalcpp> _Jordan: how do you start this "screen"?
[14:02] <_Jordan> apt-get install screen
[14:02] * rafalcpp bitchslaps gnu screen for the stupid name for it
[14:02] <_Jordan> with "sudo screen"
[14:02] <_Jordan> or just screen
[14:02] <_Jordan> depending on root perms
[14:02] <rafalcpp> _Jordan: ok. that is not a "module", that is a program. and full name to avoid confusion due to retaded name is "gnu screen"
[14:02] <_Jordan> So apt's are entire programs?
[14:02] <gordonDrogon> rafalcpp, it's a program that we used to use on old terminals when we connected into unix systems before the days of X windows. Now people use it to suspend, move and re-start sessions to unix and unix like systems like Linux.
[14:02] <rafalcpp> _Jordan: you use the gnu screen locally, or over ssh/telnet connection?
[14:03] <rafalcpp> gordonDrogon: yeah I know
[14:03] <_Jordan> locally. got my usb ocnnection wired up infront of me
[14:03] <rafalcpp> _Jordan: apt is a tool, that installs programs into the system
[14:03] <_Jordan> device handle: /dev/ttyAMA0
[14:03] <_Jordan> rafalcpp: understood
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[14:03] <shiftplusone> oh.... you're using screen for a serial connection?
[14:04] <rafalcpp> _Jordan: I do not have much experience about screen over tty... what is the problem anyway, after few minutes the entire text visible there is gone and you see empty blank screen?
[14:04] <rafalcpp> _Jordan: does this problem happen only after some minutes of inactivity? if yes it might be "screensaver" (power saving settings) that somehow affect this. this settings can be configured I bet
[14:05] <_Jordan> when running "screen /dev/ttyAMA0 19200" (my baud rate) it goes all black. but the screen is there. i should be able to input something here though
[14:05] <shiftplusone> what's connected on the other end?
[14:05] <_Jordan> shiftplusone: a nice device called a RockBlock (use for satellite 2 way comms)
[14:05] <shiftplusone> Also, what model pi is it?
[14:06] <_Jordan> courtesy of the iridium constellation network
[14:06] <_Jordan> Pi model 3 B
[14:06] <shiftplusone> aha
[14:06] <shiftplusone> have you disabled bluetooth?
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[14:06] <_Jordan> Nope.
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[14:06] <shiftplusone> aha
[14:06] <shiftplusone> first, in config.txt you need enable_uart=1
[14:06] <shiftplusone> then, don't use ttyAMA0
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[14:07] <shiftplusone> ttyAMA0 is connected to the on-board bluetooth on the pi 3
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[14:07] <_Jordan> wheres config.txt at?
[14:07] <shiftplusone> /boot
[14:07] <_Jordan> the rockblock guide tells me to use it.
[14:07] <_Jordan> hmm dunno if I should shy away from the guidelines too mcuh
[14:07] <shiftplusone> 99% of guides out out of date
[14:08] <_Jordan> yeah this is a 2y/o guide./
[14:08] <shiftplusone> *Are out of date
[14:08] <shiftplusone> if you decide to get it working, after enabling uart, reboot and user serial0 instead of ttyAMA0
[14:09] <shiftplusone> *use
[14:09] <_Jordan> enable_uart=1 aint a thing in config.txt
[14:09] <_Jordan> can i add it?
[14:09] <shiftplusone> yes
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[14:09] <_Jordan> What should my comment be?
[14:10] <shiftplusone> enable uart
[14:10] <_Jordan> okay so now try screen?
[14:10] <shiftplusone> also, in cmdline.txt remove console=serial0,115200
[14:10] <_Jordan> or the serial0 thing
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[14:10] <shiftplusone> after modifying cmdline.txt and config.txt, reboot
[14:11] <_Jordan> lemme do the cmdline one
[14:11] <_Jordan> dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=tty1 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootfstype=ext4 elevator=deadline rootwait
[14:12] <_Jordan> is this outdated too then?
[14:12] <shiftplusone> that doesn't look too broken
[14:12] <shiftplusone> ideally you'd just leave the default and take out the console=serial... param
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[14:12] <_Jordan> okay
[14:13] <_Jordan> i kept the defualt string just in case.
[14:14] <_Jordan> okay so i changed it
[14:16] <_Jordan> heres the new cmdline.txt: dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=tty1 root=PARTUUID=30d76ac9-02 rootfstype=ext4 elevator=deadline fsck.repair=yes rootwait quiet splash plymouth.ignore-serial-consoles
[14:17] <_Jordan> sorry for spam. any larger and i wouldve used pastebin
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[14:19] <shiftplusone> rebooted?
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[14:20] <_Jordan> ooo no i havent
[14:20] <_Jordan> doing it now
[14:21] <_Jordan> Rebooted.
[14:21] <_Jordan> ran screen. no change unfortunately.
[14:21] <shiftplusone> does /dev/serial0 exist?
[14:21] <_Jordan> no but /dev/ttyAMA0 does
[14:22] <shiftplusone> forget ttyAMA0 for now
[14:22] <_Jordan> okay
[14:22] <shiftplusone> does /dev/ttyS0 exist?
[14:22] <_Jordan> would this change my uart wiring?
[14:22] <_Jordan> or is that the same?
[14:22] <shiftplusone> no
[14:22] <_Jordan> fairs.
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[14:22] <_Jordan> S0 exists.
[14:23] <_Jordan> was a bit hard to find but its there.
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[14:23] <shiftplusone> 'ls /dev/ttyS0' would've done it
[14:23] <_Jordan> oh yeah
[14:23] <shiftplusone> what does 'ls -la /dev/serial*' return?
[14:23] <_Jordan> i just do /dev/tty*
[14:24] <_Jordan> ls -la /dev/serial*
[14:24] <_Jordan> whoops. this aint the console.
[14:24] <shiftplusone> Password for user _Jordan:
[14:24] <_Jordan> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 5 Jan 29 13:20 /dev/serial0 -> ttyS0
[14:25] <_Jordan> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 Jan 29 13:20 /dev/serial1 -> ttyAMA0
[14:25] <shiftplusone> so serial0 does exist
[14:25] <_Jordan> yeah
[14:25] <shiftplusone> looks good
[14:25] <gordonDrogon> fwiw - can you make something like minicom work rather than screen ?
[14:25] <shiftplusone> screen /dev/serial0 19200
[14:25] <gordonDrogon> minicom -d /dev/ttyS0 -b 19200
[14:25] <_Jordan> okay one sec.
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[14:26] <gordonDrogon> actually -D /dev/ttyS0 (capital D)
[14:26] <_Jordan> Screen is still blankety blank. i repeat screen is still appearing though
[14:26] <shiftplusone> well... at least now it's blank for different reasons
[14:27] <gordonDrogon> is your remote device actually sending anything? try removing it & looping tx & rx...
[14:27] <_Jordan> I'll give you guys the guide link
[14:27] <_Jordan> http://www.makersnake.com/rockblock/
[14:27] <_Jordan> Just after the wiring bit.
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[14:28] <shiftplusone> did you type 'AT' and press enter?
[14:28] <_Jordan> Yeah didnt work
[14:28] <gordonDrogon> I'd go back to basics and loop tx & rx.
[14:28] <_Jordan> my input doesn't show up
[14:29] <shiftplusone> yes
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[14:29] <_Jordan> whats loop rx and tx? swap em over?
[14:29] <shiftplusone> short the tx and rx pins together
[14:29] <shiftplusone> disconnect your device thingy
[14:29] <shiftplusone> and just short the rx and tx pins on the pi
[14:29] <gordonDrogon> I'd also use a usb serial adapter than the Pi's on-board serial port, but that might just be me ...
[14:29] <_Jordan> i dunno how to force a short.
[14:30] <shiftplusone> connect them together with a jumper cable or anything you have handy
[14:30] <gordonDrogon> find something that has a 2-way jumper clip thing - e.g. old hard drive ...
[14:30] <_Jordan> so while there wired to and from the pi. connect the lines?
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[14:32] <shiftplusone> only the tx and rx, don't do anything with the ground.
[14:33] <_Jordan> okay so.
[14:33] <_Jordan> i forgot the GND
[14:33] <_Jordan> ugh
[14:33] <_Jordan> i hate myself.
[14:33] <gordonDrogon> http://www.makersnake.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/rock-pins.png
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[14:34] <gordonDrogon> the green & blue wires are the ones to short together with the device removed.
[14:34] <_Jordan> AT now returns OK
[14:34] <_Jordan> thanks for your help dudes & duddettes.
[14:35] <gordonDrogon> https://i.stack.imgur.com/jiFfM.jpg
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[14:36] <shiftplusone> On the bright side, you still had to do the config.txt and serial0 stuff anyway before it would work.
[14:37] <shiftplusone> so it wasn't a total waste of time
[14:37] <_Jordan> yes shiftplusone your right. a blessing in disguise./
[14:37] <_Jordan> another problem solved. thanks guys
[14:37] <gordonDrogon> how much is an iridium account these days?
[14:38] <_Jordan> I dunno. I haven't set one up yet.
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[14:41] <gordonDrogon> Hm. �10 a month plus data fees at (starting at) 11p per 'credit' which is 50 bytes.
[14:41] <gordonDrogon> that can get expensive fast...
[14:42] <_Jordan> I need like 1 message per day. and possibly like £5 credit for testing or something.
[14:43] <gordonDrogon> and 2 of these devices, I presume.
[14:45] <akinode> hey, can anyone help me figure out where the registers are listed on this document? according to a script the register for switchign channels is 0x04, but i cant find it on the data sheet
[14:45] <akinode> http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/tca9548a.pdf
[14:46] <akinode> i have tested the script myself and the channel switchin register really is 0x04
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[14:48] <_Jordan> gordonDrogon: just one device. doubles up as a transmitter and reciever.
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[14:49] <gordonDrogon> akinode, page 17.
[14:49] <gordonDrogon> _Jordan, ok - just for testing, I presume, but eventually you want to send data from outer mongilistan to home, so 2 devices eventually?
[14:50] <_Jordan> gordonDrogon: nope I only need 1 way com. already got a radio com with the pi I'm using.
[14:50] <gordonDrogon> akinode, it's not a register based device - you just send a byte to it to set the output selectors.
[14:51] <_Jordan> Sorry i forgot to explain. I launch High altitude balloon's. My pi doubles as a tracking system.
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[14:58] <akinode> gordonDragon but if i want to read register data from sensors attached to the mux what would that look like?
[14:58] <gordonDrogon> akinode, same as any other i2c read. you set the mux to which channel you want to use, then read a device on that channel.
[14:58] <akinode> i have to transmit data via i2c in order to read register values don't I? how does the mux know when i want to read sensor data and not switch the register?
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[14:59] <akinode> i mean switch the bus
[14:59] <akinode> or is that none of my concern?
[14:59] <gordonDrogon> the mux is transparent. you set the mux and forget it.
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[15:00] <akinode> so if i wanted to use a c script to select each bus one at a time what libraries would i ideally use?
[15:00] <akinode> i have already successfully read out sensor data using smbus and python
[15:00] <gordonDrogon> the mux just gives you up to 8 I2C buses - selectable via the mux. that allows you to have 8 of a device with e.g. a fixed I2C address.
[15:00] <gordonDrogon> akinode, ideally *I* would use wiringPi - but that's because I wrote it. It has some I2C helper code in it.
[15:00] <akinode> you wrote wiringpi?
[15:00] <gordonDrogon> yes, I kno.
[15:01] <akinode> wow
[15:01] <akinode> cool
[15:01] <akinode> :D
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[15:03] <gordonDrogon> I did some code a while back with an I2C mux on the Pi. not 100% sure what one it was - let me see if I can fint it.
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[15:08] <gordonDrogon> actually it was on an Arduino not the Pi.
[15:09] <gordonDrogon> yes, same device. I2C address 0x70.
[15:10] <gordonDrogon> so, mux = wiringPiI2CSetup (0x70) ;
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[15:11] <gordonDrogon> then to change channel: wiringPiI2CWrite (mux, channel) ; // channel is 0x01 for channel 0, 0x02, chan 1, 0x04 for chan 2, etc.
[15:11] <gordonDrogon> simples.
[15:11] <BurtyB> "bus.write_byte_data(0x70,0x04,1<<port)" does it for me in lazy python :)
[15:11] <gordonDrogon> so you could write a 4-line C program to change channel, then run i2cdetect to check the devices on each channel off the mux. you should always see the 0x70 of the mux plus whatever else is on that channel.
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[15:12] <gordonDrogon> BurtyB, sure- but he asked C, and it's not a register device, so the 0x04 is irrelevant.
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[15:14] <_Jordan> Well that cost me £25 smackers.
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[15:15] <gordonDrogon> the iriduim account?
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[15:20] <shiftplusone> _Jordan: btw, you may wish to check out #highaltitude where a lot of people are doing HAB stuff with the pi
[15:21] <_Jordan> yeah i post there daily. thanks for the heads up.
[15:21] <shiftplusone> ah alright, haven't noticed.
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[15:24] <_Jordan> hmm strange. I use this name too
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[15:29] <shiftplusone> I only keep one foot in that channel, since I needed to add some hab packages to the raspberrypi repo. I'm not active there or anything, so it makes sense that I don't know everyone there >.>
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[15:47] <noregret> i don't remember what i exactly did with the interfaces, but now instead of eth0 interface, i have it named as enx* (predictable names is enabled)
[15:47] <noregret> any ideas?
[15:48] <shiftplusone> you can use raspi-config to disable it
[15:48] <noregret> shiftplusone: ah wait, so having it as eth0 isn't predictable?
[15:48] <shiftplusone> yup
[15:49] <shiftplusone> because you can have multiple usb devices and you can't predict which of them will have what name
[15:49] <noregret> odd, i understood it in the opposite way
[15:49] <noregret> i see
[15:49] <shiftplusone> yeah, enx0q2o3iasdlkgh4p9tslkdfjgjhslergjkhlkjh doesn't look 'predictable', so many people get it the other way around
[15:50] <noregret> ok, now i'm trying to enable dhcp, i placed a file in /etc/network/interfaces.d/ with a "iface etho inet dhcp" - is there anything else to nbe done?
[15:51] <BillD73> noregret: eth0 zero, not lil "o" ?
[15:51] <noregret> it was static earlier, i see it configured in /etc/dhcpcd.conf, should i remove those static lines?
[15:51] <shiftplusone> you don't need to do anything, dhcpcd already uses dhcp
[15:52] <shiftplusone> dhcpcd.conf isn't configured static by default.
[15:52] <noregret> shiftplusone: i think pihole configured it in the past, now i need it to use dhcp
[15:52] <noregret> shiftplusone: and the static config is in dhcpcd.conf
[15:53] <shiftplusone> if you take out the static stuff in dhcpcd.conf it should go back to using dhcp
[15:53] <shiftplusone> leave interfaces(.d/*) blank
[15:54] <noregret> got it
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[16:00] <_Jordan> So going back to my rockBlock. when i run the script it says no module names rockBlock
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[16:05] <shiftplusone> you need some python thing installed that provides the module
[16:06] <shiftplusone> should be in the instructions somewhere (lost the link)
[16:06] <_Jordan> i tried pip install rockBlock
[16:06] <_Jordan> http://www.makersnake.com/rockblock/
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[16:07] <shiftplusone> it says you need to clone it from agithub repo and isntall it yourself
[16:07] <_Jordan> I've cloned it. i dunno how to install it though
[16:08] <shiftplusone> the instructions neglect to mention, by the looks of it.
[16:08] <_Jordan> Sounds handy.
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[16:11] <_Jordan> is this the end of the road for me then? I need that insallt.
[16:11] <_Jordan> install*
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[16:16] <shiftplusone> I think they expect you to run your python stuff from the same directory that their library was cloned into
[16:17] <squirrel> "micro price of £159/€199/$269"
[16:17] <GenteelBen> Seriously, why isn't Python for the Pi named Pithon? I'm giving this away for free ffs.
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[16:24] <_Jordan> haha GenteelBen
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[16:38] <shiftplusone> oh don't encourage him
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[16:40] <ali1234> "pip install ." is the best way to install python modules from source repos
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[16:44] <Shariff> Hi there
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[16:45] <shiftplusone> ali1234: it's just a github repo with a single .py file, I think.
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[16:45] <Shariff> I'm considering buying a Rpi3 and I have a 2b, I want to use it for Kodi on one and Openhab on the other.. which should I run on which pi?
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[16:46] <RaMcHiP> Hello all! I am a bit confused on trying to create this bridge network. I am following this tutorial https://www.aaflalo.me/2015/01/openvpn-tap-bridge-mode/ and have followed everything twice only changing my subnet to match my LTE router. I get a failed ot start open vpn server on startup and I notice that I have 2 IPs when I do ifconfig the bridge is static set to 0.2 and eth0 is dhcp 0.24. Shouldnt both of those be the same IP?
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[16:47] <RaMcHiP> I have an LTE broadband router that has a static IP and I am trying to setup a VPN but after following that tutorial it fails to start and I cannot figure it out for the life of me
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[17:01] <_Jordan> Anyone a python pron here?
[17:01] <_Jordan> pro*
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[17:01] <CoJaBo> just ask; or try #python
[17:02] <RaMcHiP> ALso, how do I make the RPi work with a US keyboard when I do ~ I get some weird right angle line
[17:05] <shiftplusone> _Jordan: running your thing from that pyRockBlock directory doesn't work? It should.
[17:05] <Habbie> RaMcHiP, reconfigure the keyboard via sudo raspi-config
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[17:05] <RaMcHiP> I did to us utf-8 and its still not working...
[17:06] <shiftplusone> RaMcHiP: if you're using X, try lxkeymap.
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[17:14] <Habbie> RaMcHiP, it's about the layout, not about the encoding
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[17:16] <shiftplusone> it does sound like you may have set the locale rather than the keykoar layout in raspi-config
[17:16] <shiftplusone> keykoar? Can't type at all today.
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[17:21] <shauno> interesting. I can't actually find keyboard in raspi-config
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[17:23] <shauno> ahh. the option isn't there if you're via ssh
[17:25] <ShorTie> Cool
[17:26] <shauno> yeah. sometimes I really should spend that extra minute looking before I open my mouth.
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[17:33] <RaMcHiP> Hmmmm
[17:34] <RaMcHiP> Habbie, what do you mean layout?
[17:34] <Habbie> RaMcHiP, keyboard layout
[17:34] <Habbie> RaMcHiP, is independent from whether you use utf-8 or something else
[17:34] <RaMcHiP> What is standard us layout?
[17:35] <RaMcHiP> US lol
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[17:39] <RaMcHiP> Hmmmm now I cant edit the KB layout through raspi-config
[17:39] <RaMcHiP> says reloading keymap may take some time and then just poops back out to menu
[17:40] <shiftplusone> sounds like it worked
[17:41] <shiftplusone> oh... it doesn't even give the options
[17:41] <shiftplusone> got it
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[18:30] <shiftplusone> Home time
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[21:03] <akk> Anybody used a SN74LS165 shift register? I got the CD4021 working fine (thanks to gordonDrogon's examples) but I'm not having much luck with the SN74LS165.
[21:03] <akk> I've found several examples online but none of them work for me.
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[21:50] <pwillard> The SN74LS devices do Offer a higher pin loading and might have some difficulty working with CMOS without a little help.
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[21:51] <pwillard> WHat voltage are you operating it at?
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[21:56] <zizla_> Is this the place to ask about whether a RPi is appropriate for a certain project I need to complete?
[21:56] <gordonDrogon> I'd ask voltage too - 74LS devices really like their 5v supply which would mean using a voltage divider on the Din pin to the Pi
[21:57] <gordonDrogon> although it should trigger OK with the Pi's 3.3v output signals, but it still needs to be powered at 5v.
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[21:57] <gordonDrogon> zizla_, just ask...
[21:58] <zizla_> I want to do some webscraping and need something that runs my python code 24/7. What do?
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[21:59] <gordonDrogon> do you already run a pc (desktop) 24/7 ?
[21:59] <gordonDrogon> because that's what I use...
[21:59] <zizla_> only my laptop which I regularly switch off and move about
[21:59] <gordonDrogon> well the Pi ought to work - minimal effort and cost to tey it.
[22:00] <gordonDrogon> especially if you're already familiar with linux.
[22:00] <zizla_> I thought about using my phone but I don't think the scripting layer for android works with some of the stuff I use
[22:00] <zizla_> fair enough
[22:00] <pwillard> Yeah... its not something a pi really *can't* do for any reason
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[22:02] <zizla_> So when I purchase a pi 3/zero-W... Would I need to use peripherals once or twice before I can connect to it through SSH?
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[22:02] <darsie> zizla_: no, you can configure the SD card to avoid that.
[22:03] <zizla_> perfect ty
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[22:04] <darsie> zizla_: I didn't get it right the first time, though.
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[22:06] <pwillard> You just create a file called SSH in the /boot folder in the SD card. Then BOOT the pi
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[22:07] <zizla_> Sweeet
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[22:07] <darsie> And put the right wifi config file in the right place.
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[22:08] <zizla_> If all this thing is ever going to do is webscrape, do I need a 3? All it's doing is grabbing news articles and saving them
[22:08] <pwillard> plugged in Via ethernet cable hopefully
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[22:08] <zizla_> why this^?
[22:08] <darsie> A 0 can store data on the SD just as the 3.
[22:09] <pwillard> (easier... only reason)
[22:09] <darsie> If you configure wifi you don't need ethernet cable.
[22:10] <zizla_> I see I see, sounds good.
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[22:20] <pwillard> depends on how much work you are willing to do "the hard way"
[22:21] <zizla_> surely it's just a couple hours extra, not expecting plug and play, but not expecting a couple days of annoying forum posts
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[22:26] <redrabbit> i made a script to configure the image to work ootb with wifi config etc if you want
[22:27] <zizla_> Sure I'll take that if you've got it redrabbit
[22:27] <pwillard> haha... you too have discovered that pi.org forum posts are mostly useless...
[22:28] <redrabbit> https://gist.github.com/1rabbit/c7d7bce0e14124145040b350bfedaf32
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[22:35] <zizla_> so with this I can enter everything p. much
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[22:36] <redrabbit> yeah and it downloads the image and unpack it on its own
[22:36] <zizla_> ah sweet.
[22:36] <zizla_> so basically I just have my SD loaded in my lappy and run this from there?
[22:37] <redrabbit> you run it
[22:37] <redrabbit> it outputs an .img file
[22:37] <redrabbit> you flash that to your drive
[22:37] <zizla_> Thx dood.
[22:37] <zizla_> Got it
[22:37] <redrabbit> np
[22:39] <redrabbit> by the way you need to run it as root because it mounts and unmounts stuff
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[23:00] <zizla_> If I use a standard 5.1V ~2.5A power supply, will the zero W explode?
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[23:01] <darsie> no
[23:02] <darsie> The voltage converter can handle 5.5 V.
[23:02] <zizla_> I was more concerned about the amperage
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[23:02] <darsie> If it's the same as the pi3.
[23:02] <norlevo> the amperage is only relevant when you got to little of it
[23:02] <gordonDrogon> zizla_, a 1000 amp PSU is fine on the Pi too.
[23:03] <darsie> Current draw depends on the applied resistance. The pi will draw as much as it needs, not as much as there is available.
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[23:03] <gordonDrogon> electronics only take what they need.
[23:03] <zizla_> Alright, sweet. Hey guys can you also build me an EMP with your electronics knowledge?
[23:03] <zizla_> just a little one
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[23:04] <darsie> I destroyed the chip in my passport with a capacitor and a coil. Does that count?
[23:04] <gordonDrogon> zizla_, ho ho... however do google minature tesla coil. many online stuff for that, even kits you can buy.
[23:04] <zizla_> It's a start
[23:05] <darsie> zizla_: How about a microwave magnetron?
[23:05] <zizla_> I dont know what you're microwaving magnetrons for
[23:05] <darsie> I guess you could pulse that pretty high.
[23:06] <darsie> They make microwaves in microwave ovens.
[23:06] <zizla_> I don't want to just give people cancer
[23:06] <darsie> That's not an option.
[23:07] <zizla_> That's not not an option or is it okay to just blast people with microwaves?
[23:07] <darsie> Microwaves may overheat people.
[23:07] <zizla_> but hey that's what a fresh bottle of water is for
[23:07] <darsie> Which may cause their eye lens to become white.
[23:08] <darsie> You could also fry electronics from a few m.
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[23:09] <darsie> ##electronics is more suitable for that, though.
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[23:19] <redrabbit> "build me an EMP"
[23:20] <redrabbit> undercover spotted lmao
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[23:20] <zizla_> I just want to know what the limitations are to upscaling an EMP designed not to kill people too
[23:21] <zizla_> for someone with a budget of a couple grand
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[23:21] <zizla_> asking for a friend.
[23:21] <zizla_> nvm, bought my pi now
[23:22] <gordonDrogon> An EMP (electro magnetic pulse) generally does not kill living stuff - it just fries most electronics.
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[23:22] <gordonDrogon> if it's powerfull enough - but you need something like a nuclear bomb to generate a sufficiently large one though.
[23:22] <zizla_> yes, generally! darsie was trying to give me a 2-in-1 deal tho
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[23:23] <redrabbit> blast people with microwaves
[23:24] <redrabbit> what
[23:24] <redrabbit> :|
[23:24] <zizla_> lol
[23:24] <redrabbit> nut of the week award
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[23:24] <redrabbit> either nutso or undercover
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[23:24] <redrabbit> fbi agent or something
[23:25] <zizla_> red, everyone on here works for the FBI including you
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[23:27] <MacGeek> I'd suppose there would be better places where to pose as an agent provocateur?
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[23:28] <MacGeek> or have raspberry pi owners been profiled as dangerous anarchists because they like cheap computers
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[23:29] <halabund> Is the ACT light supposed to be continuously on when no SD card is inserted? Some forum posts say yes. This light isn’t on at all if I don’t put in a card. Does that mean my Pi is broken? It is an RPi 1 B.
[23:29] <IT_Sean> your Pi needs a card. It won't do anything without and SD card.
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[23:31] <halabund> IT_Sean: That is not what I asked.
[23:31] <halabund> I am trying to figure out if it is the card that is broken or the Pi.
[23:31] <IT_Sean> I do not recall if the ACT light is suppostah be on or off without an SD card.
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[23:32] <halabund> The Pi stopped working an hour ago. I’ll try another card in a while, but it takes a long time to download the raspbian image with my slow connection
[23:32] <shauno> yeah, I can't remember either. I think it's reversed on some models too?
[23:32] <akk> Can you just read the image off that card and write it to another card?
[23:32] <akk> If you can't read the card on another computer, there's your answer, the card is bad.
[23:34] <IT_Sean> wot 'e said ^
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[23:35] <shauno> something I did pick up .. read it twice and compare the two images
[23:35] <oq> IT_Sean: you're still alive? thought you might've abandoned this channel
[23:35] <IT_Sean> I'm not dead.
[23:36] <shauno> I mean just md5 them and see if they match. I've seen them fail so they're not erroring, but they're not consistent either
[23:36] <halabund> I managed to back up the card on a computer (Mac), but I don’t have a Linux system here to try to mount the ext3 partition. I’m really worried the Pi itself might be broken.
[23:36] <halabund> shauno: OK, I’ll try that
[23:36] <redrabbit> flash fresh img
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[23:39] <redrabbit> alternatively look at the serial with a ttl to usb adapter
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[23:42] <shauno> fresh img isn't as painful as it sounds. if you can read consistent copies off, then you have a good backup, and you can try a new image without losing anything
[23:43] <shauno> (it still boggles my mind to think there's people that don't have a bunch of spare cards lost down the back of the couch)
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[23:44] <dbtid> howdy; anyone know why /proc/cpuinfo seems to indicate ARMv7 for Raspberry Pi 3, but the CPU is an A53 ARMv8?
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[23:45] <shauno> I believe it's because it runs in some kind of compatibility mode when it's booted in 32bit
[23:45] <dbtid> that's an interesting detail i wasn't aware of.
[23:46] <dbtid> hmm uname -a also says 'v7l'
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[23:46] <binaryhermit> the kernel's armv7
[23:46] <dbtid> so it's not taking advantage of the fact that it's running on an ARMv8?
[23:47] <redrabbit> shauno: when each spare card you have is an excuse for a new arm board
[23:47] <redrabbit> you end up with spare arm boards
[23:48] <redrabbit> <<<<<<
[23:48] <shauno> I tend to buy bigger cards for things, and then always be able to find the small cards when I don't need them
[23:48] <shauno> I have some 2gb microsds that'd probably find their way back into my drawer if I drove them out into the countryside and left them there
[23:49] <redrabbit> 4gb is plenty
[23:49] <redrabbit> they are hard to find though
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[23:49] <redrabbit> i got some from aliexpress but they are subpar
[23:50] <redrabbit> rest of my stuff is branded
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[23:51] <redrabbit> i never really use the rest of the space on the cards so most of the time its a waste
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[23:54] <shauno> I wonder how that works out for wear-levelling
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