#raspberrypi IRC Log

Index

IRC Log for 2018-01-31

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[3:11] <willc> hey
[3:12] <willc> so a friend suggested I run a python script as a service. got that working. except when I use journalctl -u service -f it doesn't print any "print" messages
[3:12] <willc> what's up with that?
[3:13] <willc> I have a simple try: while True: loop and it won't print any print('text') statements.
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[3:13] <willc> When I run systemctl status service it shows it as running
[3:14] <willc> The only messages I see appear with journalctl -u service -e/f are "Started Service."
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[3:57] <puff> Evening.
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[4:12] <willc> hey puff
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[4:25] <KevinCarbonara> I ran into several issues a while back where I lost power and Raspbian ended up getting corrupted to the point I had to reimage
[4:25] <KevinCarbonara> Is there a chance my SD card was at fault there? it only happened when it was shut down 'improperly' but it seemed to happen every time
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[6:46] <mk-fg> willc, Maybe due to output buffering? It's disabled when you run same script in terminal because python detects that
[6:47] <willc> mk-fg, had to add -u in the .service file :)
[6:47] <willc> Thanks for responding mk-fg :D
[6:47] <mk-fg> np
[6:47] <willc> How was your day?
[6:47] <mk-fg> You can disable it from the script itself btw
[6:48] <willc> oh?
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[6:48] <mk-fg> sys.stdout = os.fopen(sys.stdout.fileno(), 'w', buffering=0) or such
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[6:49] <mk-fg> (or no, fopen is for returning fd, should be just open())
[6:49] <willc> do you have experience with the... esp8266 ?
[6:49] <willc> I'm looking at buying one/two
[6:50] <willc> remove the raspberrypi element
[6:50] <mk-fg> No, but it looks nice indeed
[6:51] <mk-fg> I've been meaning to play with one I have but never got around to it
[6:51] <willc> they appear to be on backorder
[6:52] <willc> do you have a brand that you trust most?
[6:54] <mk-fg> No, don't even know who makes them, was gifted one by a friend :)
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[7:02] <willc> providing someone doesn't sprint through the door, it works
[7:02] <willc> lucky!
[7:02] <willc> (it being the thing I'm building)
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[9:42] <tvm> hi, has anyone some info how to make RPI boot quietly with current raspbian ? all the methods that are around internet don't seem to work anymore
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[9:52] <mk-fg> Put up a splash screen via OpenVG api early on boot and you won't have to worry about suppressing all the things happening underneath
[9:53] <mk-fg> Though for early kernel console output and logo, you'd probably still want some cmdline tweaks
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[9:54] <mk-fg> Also disable_splash=1 in config.txt
[9:54] <tvm> well, all the cmdline.txt tinkering with console=tty3 and loglevels failed to produce any results
[9:56] <mk-fg> I'd check if you can see your tweaks in /proc/cmdline after boot
[9:56] <mk-fg> If so, and there's indeed no result, then that'd be super-weird
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[9:57] <tvm> root@raspberrypi:~# cat /proc/cmdline
[9:57] <tvm> 8250.nr_uarts=0 bcm2708_fb.fbwidth=1920 bcm2708_fb.fbheight=1080 bcm2708_fb.fbswap=1 vc_mem.mem_base=0x3ec00000 vc_mem.mem_size=0x40000000 dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=tty3 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootfstype=ext4 fsck.repair=yes elevator=deadline rootwait loglevel=0 quiet logo.nologo
[9:58] <tvm> i still get "full" boot output with this
[10:00] <mk-fg> Try console=null
[10:00] <mk-fg> That should shut up systemd at least, I think
[10:01] <tvm> yep, that's it
[10:01] <tvm> thanks )
[10:01] <tvm> :)
[10:01] <mk-fg> Then it probably was just systemd
[10:01] <tvm> yeah
[10:02] <mk-fg> Which I guess switches to whatever tty you specified there on boot so you can still see its stuff
[10:03] <tvm> yeah, that would make sense, that's why console=tty3 doesn't work
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[15:36] <jancoow> Hi guys
[15:37] <jancoow> I've running hyperion + hyperion X11 on my linux desktop for a while now, it works great for ambi light
[15:37] <jancoow> now I want to run hyperion X11 on my raspberry
[15:37] <jancoow> how can I do that?
[15:37] <jancoow> I've already hyperion working
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[16:17] <MacGeek> I seemingly can't send right-click events over VNC to my raspberry pi anymore - any ideas?
[16:18] <MacGeek> looks like it happened after an update I performed yesterday
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[16:28] <thomas_25> Habbie, gordonDrogon btw I got f2fs working, boot time not changed much but it seems to work just like normal
[16:30] <thomas_25> MacGeek i was just thinking about using VNS as apparently there is no reliable airplay or chromecast server implmentations for the pi
[16:30] <thomas_25> is VNC any good for 1080p high fps streaming? (for video) ?
[16:31] <MacGeek> not in my experience
[16:32] <thomas_25> :/
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[16:36] <gordonDrogon> thomas_25, ok - however it won't solve the No. 1 cause (from what I've seen over the past almost 6 years or Pi use) of SD card corruption which is poor power supplies or pulling the plug during writes.
[16:37] <iEv0lv3__> I was reading somewhere the other day that streaming 720 is the best u can do on a big screen tv
[16:37] <gordonDrogon> I've used vnc on a Pi too - it simply won't stream video as that's all done on the gpu directly to the framebuffer from what I can tell.
[16:37] <iEv0lv3__> With pi
[16:37] <gordonDrogon> iEv0lv3__, read here, now: I can stream 1080p to a TV on a Pi.
[16:37] <shiftplusone> iEv0lv3__: 90% of information from unofficial sources is misleading at best.
[16:37] <gordonDrogon> as can most people... because that's what it was designed for.
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[16:38] <thomas_25> gordonDrogon corruption as in user land fs errors?
[16:38] <gordonDrogon> thomas_25, no - SD cards being nuked to the stone age.
[16:38] <iEv0lv3__> I read it was done, but couldn't go full screen
[16:38] <thomas_25> never heard of flash storage getting damaged because of power loss
[16:38] <iEv0lv3__> Or something
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[16:39] <gordonDrogon> thomas_25, it's a very real issue. My camers has dire warnings for example, and I've (or rather my wife) has destroyed an SD card by pulling out of her mac book before it had been ejected.
[16:39] <iEv0lv3__> thomas_25: um, that's actually a big issue with pi? Power loss causing corruption to sd
[16:39] <thomas_25> it could cause corruption as in file system errors
[16:39] <gordonDrogon> thomas_25, SD cards need bursty current during writes too - poor PSUs can struggle with that.
[16:39] <thomas_25> but hardware?
[16:40] <thomas_25> yes flash needs more power during writes
[16:41] <gordonDrogon> you'll also find people having toasted SD cards on the Pi v2 with it's spring-loaded SD card socket...
[16:41] <gordonDrogon> however, all that in-mind, I'd be interested in your long-term tests of f2fs.
[16:42] <thomas_25> that's another matter, if SD card doesn't have proper isolations or stuff, you could damage the circuit somehow maybe -- i'm just speculating
[16:42] <thomas_25> but never heard of nand storage getting fucked up due to power loss
[16:42] <iEv0lv3__> gordonDrogon: what to you use for your high fps 1080p streaming
[16:42] <iEv0lv3__> *do
[16:42] <gordonDrogon> iEv0lv3__, I use a Pi.
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[16:42] <thomas_25> iEv0lv3__ there are many solutions that you can use... like Kodi
[16:42] <thomas_25> but they are not a replacement for VNC
[16:42] <iEv0lv3__> The issues I was reading was about the frame rate sucking (on kodi)
[16:43] <gordonDrogon> if you meant what software, I also use Kodi.
[16:43] <thomas_25> iEv0lv3__ it was smooth as butter for me
[16:43] <gordonDrogon> ditto.
[16:43] <iEv0lv3__> Cool
[16:43] <iEv0lv3__> Imma try it out
[16:43] <mk-fg> Did you stream 1080p 60fps though?
[16:43] <iEv0lv3__> Maybe he just had some weird unique issue
[16:43] <thomas_25> can't comment on 60fps
[16:43] <mk-fg> TV is usually 24 or 25
[16:43] <gordonDrogon> iEv0lv3__, You do know the SoC/GPU was specifically designed for video streaming, don't you?
[16:43] <thomas_25> but 1080p, sure.
[16:43] <puff> I've done a little raspberry pi programming, mostly driving LEDs for a friend's art project, but I'm looking into pi-compatible cameras now. What do people think of arducam's pi-compatible cameras?
[16:44] <iEv0lv3__> gordonDrogon: nope.
[16:44] <gordonDrogon> iEv0lv3__, well you know now.
[16:44] <iEv0lv3__> Fact
[16:44] <gordonDrogon> yes, fact. early Roku boxes used it.
[16:44] <iEv0lv3__> I think they were talking about 1080 at 60fps. Maybe that was the issue
[16:45] <iEv0lv3__> Or maybe he was trying 4k. Idk now
[16:45] <iEv0lv3__> It was a whole 2 days ago
[16:45] <gordonDrogon> it's not a 4k device.
[16:45] <gordonDrogon> well the Pi could do this almost 6 years ago. maybe they need to get up to date.
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[16:45] <gordonDrogon> and you should check your facts before spreading stuff like this.
[16:45] <iEv0lv3__> Too bad they aren't releasing pi4 this year
[16:46] <gordonDrogon> yea, too bad.
[16:46] <gordonDrogon> anyway, I have a brewery to visit. back later.
[16:46] <iEv0lv3__> What facts, I didn't spread anything except a pi streaming issue that had come up in an article
[16:47] <mk-fg> It's fiiinee
[16:47] <puff> gordonDrogon: We'll expect a report.
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[16:48] <puff> gordonDrogon: I'm due to tour my friend's brewery soon. He recently resigned from his job fixing gamma ray lithography machines to run a nanobrewery full time for a local high-end restaurant chain. Being an electronics geek, he cobbled together all of his brewery's control systems.
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[16:49] <puff> ...which is on my list of fun projects, making my own automated homebrewing system.
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[16:52] <iEv0lv3__> thomas_25: so you can stream 1080 no problem, but not at 60fps?
[16:52] <iEv0lv3__> What's the highest buffer u got to
[16:53] <thomas_25> haven't tried 60fps
[16:53] <thomas_25> but if it is out of the hardware decoders supported profiles, i think you'd fall into user space decoding
[16:53] <mk-fg> I asked about 60fps only because iEv0lv3__ mentioned "high fps", which is not very common
[16:54] <thomas_25> i mentioned that... but in the context of VNC, high fps just meant > 30fps for me
[16:54] <thomas_25> because you know how laggy desktop sharing protocols feel
[16:54] <mk-fg> Wouldn't expect more than 1-2fps from vnc, tbh :)
[16:55] <pwillard> Just the Pi zero W... for sale everywhere "normal" at $10 price. Amazon lowest price = $25. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[16:55] <mk-fg> Maybe NX can do better, iirc it was years ago when I tried it
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[16:55] <mk-fg> But streaming video is definitely a way to go for anything media instead of these protocols
[16:56] <iEv0lv3__> I'm pretty sure that what his issue was, he wanted it to stream at 60fps and couldn't get it to run smooth
[16:56] <mk-fg> I think there's big diff between "streaming from rpi" and "playing stream on rpi" too
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[16:57] <mk-fg> Don't think it has hw encoder, only decoder
[16:58] <mk-fg> So if by "he wanted it to stream at 60fps" you mean streaming from rpi, can definitely see that not working well enough
[16:58] <MacGeek> gordonDrogon: you can set up the VNC server to stream the framebuffer (it's called the experimental direct capture mode, iirc) - that mode is noticeably slower, though.
[16:58] <iEv0lv3__> pwillard: pi Zero W is $15. Without wireless (regular pi zero) is $10. The site charges u $10 shipping on any order under $200. Therefore, you will still pay $25 from official sites
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[17:00] <iEv0lv3__> Of course, I got my pi Zero W for $17.99 WITH heatsinks, fan, connectors, and case. No shipping. Ebay😏
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[17:00] <pwillard> Actually... I ordered from Sparkfun instead. https://i.imgur.com/FkbvReM.gif
[17:00] <thomas_25> i'm disappointed in that there is no chromecast server for the pi
[17:01] <thomas_25> it would have been cool to just stream a browser tab to the pi, hassle free
[17:01] <iEv0lv3__> ^
[17:01] <iEv0lv3__> Yes
[17:01] <thomas_25> kodi and variants are all good, and there are tons solutions to stream content to smart tvs and the pi itself -- but when it gets complicated like getting the subtitles right etc
[17:01] <pwillard> I've tried to emulate a chromecast with a generic android "box"... but performance wa sad.
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[17:05] <iEv0lv3__> gordonDrogon: facts checked. Can't stream 1080p at 60fps with pi. Maybe you should seek better understanding of information before writing it off as false😉
[17:07] <mk-fg> What did you use for playback?
[17:08] <mk-fg> Don't think I've ever tried it myself, but maybe it might work with some OpenMAX-supported h264 high-fps profiles (assuming there are any)
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[17:09] <puff> mk-fg: Wait, so which are we talking about today, streaming *from* the pi or *to* the pi?
[17:09] <mk-fg> (and also not sure if encoding profile params include fps, but then maybe some are easier on hw than others)
[17:09] <mk-fg> puff, I'm not sure tbh, but assume playback, as it doesn't make much sense otherwise :)
[17:10] <mk-fg> "playback" as in "playback on rpi"
[17:10] <puff> aha.
[17:10] <puff> I'm trying to research building a pi-based spycam/securitycam/etc.
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[17:11] <puff> I was assuming/hoping that most cameras would include hardware encoders, so the pi wouldn't have to do that heavy lifting.
[17:11] <iEv0lv3__> Puff lots of tuts on that online. Not too hard
[17:11] <mk-fg> Hmm, or actually, maybe it can encode in hardware too and I'm wrong about things not making sense?
[17:11] <mk-fg> Too lazy to google, anyway, apologies for confusion :)
[17:11] <puff> iEv0lv3__: Yeah, too many :-).
[17:11] <iEv0lv3__> True lol
[17:11] <puff> mk-fg: no sweat.
[17:12] <iEv0lv3__> Welcome to rpi😁
[17:12] <puff> iEv0lv3__: Hah.
[17:12] <puff> I have several different projects in mind, so I'm looking at the arducam's pi-compatible cameras, because they have several variations. It'd be nice to have a common platform for them.
[17:13] <puff> http://www.arducam.com/camera-modules/raspberrypi-camera/
[17:13] <Lartza> Like https://github.com/ccrisan/motioneyeos ?
[17:13] <puff> Lartza: ?
[17:14] <Lartza> [18:10:36] <puff> I'm trying to research building a pi-based spycam/securitycam/etc.
[17:14] <puff> Lartza: ah, cool.
[17:14] <puff> Yeah, that'd be one option.
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[17:28] <gordonDrogon> iEv0lv3__, you didn't initially mention 60fps though.
[17:28] <gordonDrogon> puff, brewery is fine - run by a couple of friends - I'm doing their automation stuff
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[17:32] <puff> gordonDrogon: cool. Would love to pick your brains about it sometime.
[17:32] <gordonDrogon> it's obivously top-secret and all that ;-)
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[18:03] <iEv0lv3__> Yellow folder with "classified" stamped on it in red, type top secret?
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[18:06] <iEv0lv3__> And I mentioned at 60fps before your comment of spreading false info😉
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[18:48] <akinode> hello, can anyone help me with my problem?
[18:48] <akinode> I get the following error whenever i try to use gpioload i2c:
[18:48] <akinode> https://pastebin.com/mcE9yiGt
[18:49] <akinode> i followed the instructions here: http://wiringpi.com/download-and-install/
[18:49] <akinode> however, i used the git mirror since the given git address doesnt seem to be working atm
[18:49] <akinode> this is the git mirror i found: https://github.com/WiringPi/WiringPi
[18:50] <shauno> silly question, but have you tried following the instructions in the error message? (sudo raspi-config -> interfacing options -> enable/disable i2c)
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[18:51] <akinode> yes, ii2c is enabled in raspi-config
[18:52] <shauno> you shouldn't need 'gpio load i2c' then. you should be able to just skip past it and carry on
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[18:55] <akinode> but if i try to use gpio i2cd afterwards it tells me that its unable to find thee i2cdetect command
[18:55] <akinode> so that means that its not loaded yet right?
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[18:57] <shauno> if it can't find it at all, it's probably not installed. try "sudo apt install i2c-tools"
[18:57] <shauno> if i2c isn't loaded, it should find i2cdetect, but i2cdetect would complain it can't find a /dev/something
[18:58] <akinode> i already have the newest version of i2c-tools installed
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[18:59] <akinode> also i should probably mention that i2cdetect -y 1 works just fine
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[18:59] <akinode> just that i cant get access to that functionality using gpio
[18:59] <akinode> as a command
[18:59] <shauno> if you run "i2cdetect -y 1" on its own, does it complain?
[19:00] <shauno> just trying to narrow down why it might not be able to find it
[19:01] <akinode> i2cdetect -y 1 works without problems
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[19:04] <shauno> hm. I'm outta guesses then. neither i2cdetect or wiringpi have changed too recently, so it should be looking in the right place
[19:04] <shauno> gordonDrogon: ping? heh
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[19:05] <akinode> i think it may have something to do with the github mirror i used
[19:05] <akinode> since git clone git://git.drogon.net/wiringPi gives me an error that i cannot connect to git.drogon.net
[19:06] <shauno> it's not impossible, but the mirror looks up to date (or atleast, the last update on both of them was the same thing)
[19:08] <Rukus> helloooo
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[19:12] <gordonDrogon> akinode, witingPi support is primarilly in email.
[19:12] <gordonDrogon> akinode, wiringPi is pre-installed with Raspbian - you don't normally need to compile it.
[19:12] <gordonDrogon> akinode, but thanks for pointing out that the git is down - the vps hosting it crashed this morning. ah well.
[19:13] <gordonDrogon> akinode, the version hosted on github is not a mirror, but another version maintained by someone else.
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[19:15] <gordonDrogon> akinode, anyway - the issue is that you did not read and comprehend the error message. You do not use gpio load ... with the system you have - it tells you what to do; do it.
[19:15] <shauno> I think we got past that bit, and now he's stuck that gpio is complaining it can't find i2cdetect?
[19:16] <shauno> (I did try to pluck the low-hanging fruit before pinging you ;)
[19:16] <gordonDrogon> that's right - it's an outstanding issue - you have to type the command in rather than use the gpio i2cd shortcut.
[19:17] <gordonDrogon> I broke it trying to "fix" a potential security issue.
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[19:19] <akinode> is there an easy way to e.g. set the baudrate without using the gpio utility?
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[19:20] <akinode> also is there a version one can download that isnt broken?
[19:20] <gordonDrogon> akinode, the gpio utility can not set the i2c speed anymore. you need to google how to do it the 'proper' way.
[19:20] <gordonDrogon> akinode, are you using raspbian?
[19:20] <akinode> yes
[19:21] <gordonDrogon> then it's already pre-installed.
[19:21] <gordonDrogon> and the git.drogon.net site is back up.
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[19:22] <akinode> ok great thanks
[19:23] <gordonDrogon> but please - do not compile it yourself.
[19:23] <gordonDrogon> use the packaged version.
[19:23] <gordonDrogon> you'll just end up with a big mess if you have both versions installed.
[19:24] <akinode> but apparently its not properly isntalled after all
[19:24] <akinode> when i try to e.g. compile blink.c i get an error that all the wiringpi functions are undefined
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[19:25] <gordonDrogon> that's because you are not a C programmer.
[19:25] <gordonDrogon> wiringPi is intended for experienced C programmers. it's not a newbie tool.
[19:25] <gordonDrogon> 1. use the supplied Makefile. 2. link in the missing libraries!
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[19:28] <gordonDrogon> make blink
[19:28] <gordonDrogon> or: gcc -Wall -oblink blink.c -lwiringPi
[19:28] <akinode> yes i am currently looking into it
[19:28] <akinode> thanks a lot :)
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[19:31] <akinode> gordonDragon can you explain what -Wall means?
[19:31] <akinode> and why you can just link wiringpi without requiring it to be in the same directory
[19:32] <gordonDrogon> -Wall is turn all Warnings on.
[19:32] <jsgrant> What kind-of performance can one expect targeting the RPi3 for trivial 3d (lowish-poly) gamedev? I see a few vids, here and there on youtube -- demoing opengl, but it's so little of a demo, really can't grok anything from it.
[19:32] <jsgrant> Openarena-tier, seems fine.
[19:32] <gordonDrogon> you can link wiringPi because it's a library located in the correct place for libraries to be located in.
[19:32] <akinode> so in /usr/local/include?
[19:32] <gordonDrogon> jsgrant, well I canget 25fps out of a 3d raycaster written in BASIC on the Pi without using the GPU :)
[19:33] <gordonDrogon> akinode, libraries are in /usr/lib the header files are in /usr/include (that is if you are using the pre-supplied package)
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[19:33] <jsgrant> gordonDrogon: Huh, neat. What resolution?
[19:33] <gordonDrogon> jsgrant, er, 800x600 I think. running on the 7" display.
[19:34] <akinode> then why does the Makefile say INCLUDE = -I/usr/local/include ?
[19:34] <stiv> -lsomething means look for a library called libsomething.so or libsomething.a in the usual places.
[19:34] * jsgrant ideally would try at minimum, 720 to make it "worth it".
[19:34] <gordonDrogon> akinode, because the Makefile is really my test thing for when I install it from scratch. It won't make any difference using it with the installed version though - go learn how gcc works.
[19:35] <Rickta59> does gcc look in /usr/local ?
[19:35] <gordonDrogon> jsgrant, quake 3d seems to work well on the Pi, so if that's a good benchmark, then anything trivially lesser ought to be just fine.
[19:35] <Rickta59> for headers?
[19:35] <Rickta59> by default
[19:35] <gordonDrogon> Rickta59, I've no idea.
[19:35] <Rickta59> I don't think it does
[19:35] <jsgrant> Was loosely considering just getting an odroid xu4 or something; But either-or, going to finally remove my Ouya from the entertainment-center and want another platform to shoot at sans just Shield on Android. :^)
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[19:36] <gordonDrogon> that's why I explicitly put in the paths ...
[19:36] <ConkyAxis> Hello, I'm running latest raspbian stretch and when I open youtube my screen freezes and goes all fuzzy. I have had youtube working on another raspbian jessie distro spin off. Any ideas?
[19:37] <jsgrant> gordonDrogon: Yeah, I'll messabout certainly; Planning on seeing how-much performance I can squeeze out of a slim Gentoo build or similar.
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[19:39] <gordonDrogon> jsgrant, the linux flavour won't be your limiting factor. once you crank up the gpu, then you're away and on that note I'd probably strongly sugges you stick to raspbian as everything works there.
[19:39] <gordonDrogon> you may get more performance compiling gentoo targetted for the Pi v3 though, then then your stuff will only run on the v3.
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[19:42] <jsgrant> gordonDrogon: Yeah, that's the intention; Basically write some kind of buildscript & since I plan on maxing it just a very specialized gamedev device -- will hopefully have pretty tight reigns; Though, yeah, will probably start off with Raspbian.
[19:43] <jsgrant> making it*
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[19:46] * jsgrant does wish there were more demos about; You'd think this would be a bigger area of interest.
[19:46] <gordonDrogon> jsgrant, the good thing is that if you make your game system use the gpu then it would work on all Pi versions - e.g. Pi Zero with lower current consumption is more suited for batterys.
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[20:21] <aarcane> How do I get rid of the yellow lightning bolt? I want to just turn that off
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[20:23] <ShorTie> get a better power supply or usb cable ??
[20:24] <ali1234> there is a way to disable it but i forgot what it is
[20:24] <aarcane> well duh, but I have to ship this image off to a bunch of lay folk and have no control over what power supply they'll use. Therefore I need to just turn it off
[20:25] <ShorTie> better to leave it on so they know stuff isn't right
[20:25] <ShorTie> or you don't care about there sdcard ??
[20:25] <ali1234> avoid_warnings=1 in config.txt
[20:26] <aarcane> it's an image for testing monitors. It'll get in the way of searching for dead pixels
[20:26] <aarcane> ali1234, excellent! I'll try that now... One sec+
[20:27] <ali1234> consider making your system run read-only if you haven't already
[20:27] <ali1234> it should be very easy if you only need to display an image
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[20:28] <aarcane> ali1234, it shows a series of test images in a loop... but yeah. That's the plan.
[20:28] <aarcane> Speaking of, can someone explain the SD card thing?
[20:28] <ali1234> which sd card thing?
[20:28] <aarcane> about under voltage damaging SD cards
[20:29] <aarcane> or under current or whatever
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[20:29] <ali1234> under voltage damages sd cards
[20:29] <ali1234> pulling the power while the system is writing to the card also damages sd cards, or if you are lucky it will just mess up the operating system
[20:30] <ali1234> the best way to prevent this is to load everything into ram at boot time
[20:30] <ali1234> and the easiest way to do that is to make your entire system be an initramfs
[20:31] <MacGeek> if it's just going to display images maybe you could underclock the thing to reduce its power consumption (assuming that's possible)?
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[20:31] <aarcane> ali1234, that sounds simple enough. Got a good link that'll explain how to convert a dev image into a production initramfs?
[20:31] <shauno> oddly, people like to forget the pi is actually a computer. and there's a lot of things you wouldn't do to your normal computer, that you shouldn't do to the pi either
[20:32] <ali1234> aarcane: i only have code https://github.com/ali1234/rpi-ramdisk
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[20:33] <ali1234> this also works in a similar way: https://github.com/raspberrypi/gpioexpander
[20:33] <ali1234> you can't just take an existing SD card and convert it, it will be too big
[20:33] <ali1234> you might be able to do it if you delete a lot of stuff
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[20:36] <aarcane> ali1234, I'm looking at your git repo, haven't figured out yet where to put custom files for inclusion into the image... I've gotta include QT built for EGLFS
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[20:40] <ali1234> aarcane: it already includes Qt for EGLFS
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[20:40] <ali1234> look in the packages folder
[20:40] <aarcane> ali1234, oh, nice. Just need to figure out how to package for it then
[20:41] <ali1234> there's a demo qml file which you can modify as you see fit
[20:42] <ali1234> each package Makefile builds a tar.gz
[20:42] <aarcane> I'll have to convert that to qt forms... but should be doable enough from there.
[20:43] <ali1234> those are unpacked into the image: https://github.com/ali1234/rpi-ramdisk/blob/master/raspbian/build#L146
[20:43] <ali1234> notice that the qmldemo service is commented so it isn't enabled
[20:43] <ali1234> you can supply an executabe instead if you want, you will just need to hack around the Makefiles
[20:44] <ali1234> but for a simple image slideshow, QML is ideal
[20:44] <ali1234> also you have to run ubuntu or debian to build the image because it uses apt
[20:45] <aarcane> ali1234, I'm not great with QT, I dislike QML because it's not as easy to integrate with C++, which is the language I know... Also, the app is very nearly done in QT Forms already.
[20:46] <aarcane> has a main menu to show test screens, and otherwise just iterates through them all
[20:46] <aarcane> should be simple with QML, but again, I'm not great with QML :-S
[20:47] <ali1234> that can be done by only modifying the QML demo
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[20:48] <aarcane> ali1234, there are some other less trivial requirements, like spawn a new main window for each display that's attached, and detect when screens come and go...
[20:48] <ali1234> that's tricky
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[20:49] <aarcane> yeah, but I got it working
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[21:24] <redrabbit> hi
[21:24] <redrabbit> what's the fastest system for the rpi0w -boot time wise-
[21:24] <redrabbit> im going off the grid for that rpi with a attiny85 for power management
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[21:24] <redrabbit> i need the fastest boot possible so it goes back to sleep faster
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[21:28] <redrabbit> i like raspbian, maybe stick with it and make it boot faster with some options?
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[21:28] <Habbie> redrabbit, well, what's the pi0w going to do?
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[21:28] <redrabbit> powered on a battery it will be an off the grid computer
[21:29] <redrabbit> with 3G dongle and also use the wifi
[21:29] <redrabbit> its going to be used for all sorts of tasks
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[21:30] <redrabbit> mainly im curious how long it can sustain itself on a big power pack with poweroff/sleep most of the time
[21:30] <redrabbit> only turns on when needed
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[21:33] <redrabbit> i have wired/shrink wrapped the power control with some mosfet and an attiny85
[21:33] <redrabbit> works good
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[21:34] <stiv> rumor has it that wifi is expensive to run. sorry, don't have actual numbers
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[21:39] <mgottschlag> redrabbit: in my experience, when you want really fast boot times, you could have a look at buildroot
[21:40] <mgottschlag> I never tried it with a pi though
[21:40] <redrabbit> im going to stick with something that works ootb though
[21:40] <redrabbit> what about http://dietpi.com/
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[21:43] <bub_> Anyone know how to troubleshoot distorted sound? raspbian
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[21:44] <bub_> the type of sound you get when your volume is way beyond max
[21:44] <Habbie> bub_, tell us about your setup
[21:44] <Habbie> bub_, hardware (pi, connected), hdmi vs. analog, etc.
[21:44] <bub_> rpi3, hdmi
[21:45] <Habbie> where does the hdmi go?
[21:45] <bub_> tv
[21:45] <Habbie> and presumably it plays back other devices just fine
[21:45] <bub_> it used to work, until I started messing around with bluetooth
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[21:45] <bub_> yes
[21:45] <Habbie> ok
[21:45] <Habbie> then i have no suggestions but at least now we all have context
[21:46] <bub_> yups, I'm googling as we're speaking.. never done any troubleshooting when it comes to sound on linux
[21:46] <Habbie> it could be quite pi-specific
[21:46] <Habbie> which i don't say often!
[21:46] <Habbie> it also may still not be
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[21:52] <GrandPa-G> not being an electric guy, I have a sensor that is like a switch but is always on and goes low when it detects something. For gpio, do I set it up pull_up_down=GPIO.PUD_DOWN instead of pull_up_down=GPIO.PUD_UP? Is that the only change?
[21:56] <shauno> sounds more like something you need to handle in your code
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[21:57] <shauno> for pullup vs pulldown, it depends what voltage rail the sensor goes to. so if the sensor goes from the gpio to ground, the sensor's pulling down, so you use a pullup. if the sensor goes from 3.3v to the gpio, so the sensor's pulling up, and you want a pulldown
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[21:58] <akinode> hey, can anyone here figure out why the wiringPiI2CWrite function is returnung -1?
[21:58] <akinode> https://pastebin.com/dyJbMMyk
[21:59] <akinode> i am passing it a valid file descriptor and a valid value, at least i assume i am
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[22:06] <redrabbit> what is the quickest way to set a gpio to high
[22:06] <Habbie> from where?
[22:06] <Habbie> shell? C? python?
[22:06] <redrabbit> shell
[22:07] <Habbie> the easiest way is the gpio tool from wiringPi
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[22:09] <redrabbit> ok
[22:09] <redrabbit> and from http://dietpi.com/
[22:09] <redrabbit> what would you use
[22:09] <redrabbit> ill check if its in the repos
[22:11] <gordonDrogon> akinode, No, we can't tell you - why not extract the error number from errno and print it? (strerror())
[22:13] <gordonDrogon> akinode, I just read your code. Sorry. So sorry. You are so-far off the rails I don't even know what to say.
[22:13] <gordonDrogon> redrabbit, gpio mode $pin out ; gpio write $pin 1
[22:13] <gordonDrogon> redrabbit, although technically that's relatively slow, the quickest way is to do it from a C program, however...
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[22:14] <redrabbit> thanks
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[22:15] <gordonDrogon> redrabbit, do take note of the pin numbering scheme - you may want gpio -g mode $pin ... etc. -g gives you bcm_gpio pin numbers
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[22:17] <Habbie> redrabbit, why dietpi?
[22:17] <redrabbit> its supposed to boot faster
[22:17] <Habbie> by one second
[22:18] <Habbie> that's not a lot to win from changing to a distro with an even smaller userbase than raspbian
[22:18] <redrabbit> ah
[22:18] <redrabbit> i guess so
[22:18] <redrabbit> i never tried anything else tbh
[22:18] <gordonDrogon> I have a Pi 0 that boots to pdp-8 emulator in 15 seconds. that's good enough for me. (Raspbian jessie fwiw)
[22:19] <Habbie> dietpi claims that raspbian boots in 15.5 seconds
[22:19] <Habbie> but some of their other claims have not been true for years
[22:19] <Habbie> redrabbit, so you will boot your pi via the attiny, and eventually shut it down
[22:19] <redrabbit> yes
[22:19] <Habbie> redrabbit, how long will the pi stay up -after boot-? i.e. for the tasks you have for it
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[22:20] <redrabbit> it boots, check an url, if=1, gpio high and it prevents the attiny from shutting down
[22:20] <redrabbit> if=0 it shutdown the pi
[22:20] <redrabbit> no answer, shutdown
[22:21] <shauno> surprised you haven't replaced the attiny with an esp8266. that way you could check the URL *before* turning it on ;)
[22:21] <redrabbit> no
[22:21] <redrabbit> it uses 3G
[22:21] <shauno> ah
[22:21] <redrabbit> i was thinking about using en esp32 at some moment
[22:21] <redrabbit> im going to leave it in the forest
[22:22] <redrabbit> forest server ftw
[22:22] <Habbie> ok
[22:22] <Habbie> that's useful info
[22:22] <Habbie> but you did not answer my question :)
[22:22] <Habbie> how long will it generally stay up?
[22:22] <redrabbit> ah ! about 3-4 hours
[22:22] <gordonDrogon> redrabbit, you could do that with a bit of php or python. checking url's from C while not hard is harder.
[22:22] <Habbie> on average? or just the if=1 boots?
[22:22] <redrabbit> wake up 1 minute every two hours
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[22:23] <redrabbit> to check order to sleep/not
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[22:23] <Habbie> 1 minute? why 1 minute?
[22:23] <redrabbit> i can do it with a bash script and crontab
[22:24] <redrabbit> in the 1 minute timeframe id check the url then shutdown
[22:24] <Habbie> ok
[22:24] <redrabbit> (or not)
[22:24] <Habbie> how often will it not shutdown?
[22:24] <redrabbit> only if i set the url content to "1"
[22:24] <Habbie> that we got
[22:24] <Habbie> how often? :)
[22:24] <redrabbit> when i want to use it.
[22:24] <gordonDrogon> so waking a Pi every one minute to check a URL? Might as well leave it on ...
[22:25] <redrabbit> every 2H
[22:25] <Habbie> gordonDrogon, every two hours
[22:25] <Habbie> redrabbit, so you cannot predict how often that is?
[22:25] <gordonDrogon> oh, ok.
[22:25] <redrabbit> Habbie: why
[22:25] <Habbie> redrabbit, because if it's 50% of the time, the boot time is very uninteresting
[22:25] <redrabbit> not its way less
[22:25] <Habbie> redrabbit, but if it's 5% of the time, boot time may become a factor
[22:25] <Habbie> redrabbit, although if the 'yes' case is 3-4 hours, even 5% is uninteresting
[22:25] <oq> why not shut it down after it's done it's business instead of the 1 minute thing
[22:25] <redrabbit> yeah its a factor for sure
[22:26] <redrabbit> oq: 1 minute is the timeout on the attiny
[22:26] <Habbie> the attiny hard shutdowns the pi?
[22:26] <Habbie> well only if the pi crashes i suppose
[22:26] <redrabbit> if the pi doesnt tell "keep me up"
[22:26] <redrabbit> it shuts the power
[22:27] <redrabbit> well im going to stick with rasbian
[22:27] <Habbie> probably smart
[22:27] <redrabbit> lets get it done
[22:29] <redrabbit> i have to make the software for the attiny at least i have finished the hardware
[22:29] <Habbie> what are you using to enable/disable power to the pi?
[22:29] <redrabbit> a mosfet
[22:29] <Habbie> that's okay for the pi power draw?
[22:29] <redrabbit> sure its oversized
[22:29] <Habbie> cool
[22:30] <gordonDrogon> there are some good power mosfest that run off logic levels on their gate input.
[22:30] <gordonDrogon> like 30 amps ... (ones I've used anyway!)
[22:30] <Habbie> cool
[22:30] <redrabbit> https://aliexpress.com/item/10pcs-free-shipping-IRFZ44N-IRFZ44-IRFZ44NPBF-MOSFET-MOSFT-55V-41A-17-5mOhm-42nC-TO-220-new/32386978106.html
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[22:30] <Habbie> oh i ordered something like that once
[22:31] <Habbie> i even know where they are
[22:31] <gordonDrogon> not sure they're logic level ones though - you might need a charge pump for the gate.
[22:31] <redrabbit> that mosfet + 10k resistor + diode + attiny85
[22:31] <redrabbit> is all i used
[22:31] <Habbie> 10k resistor for pulldown?
[22:32] <redrabbit> yes
[22:32] <Habbie> why the diode?
[22:32] <Habbie> please excuse me if that is a stupid question
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[22:32] <redrabbit> good question
[22:32] <redrabbit> i just copied an old protoboard layout i had around
[22:32] <Habbie> hehe ok
[22:33] <redrabbit> it was done for a small water pump
[22:33] <redrabbit> works the same (cuts 5v on/off)
[22:33] <Habbie> ack
[22:33] <redrabbit> and was easy to put together
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[22:34] <gordonDrogon> just checked - that mosfet won't turn fully on unless you're putting 9v or more on the gate.
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[22:35] <gordonDrogon> but if it's already working, then you're getting away with it... carry on :)
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[22:39] <Habbie> hehe
[22:40] <redrabbit> i get 5.21v output
[22:40] <redrabbit> could be worse
[22:40] <redrabbit> (loaded)
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[23:04] <Hitechcg> jsgrant re GPU performance: check out the hardware OpenGL driver - add dtoverlay=vc4-kms-v3d (maybe a bit faster) or dtoverlay=vc4-fkms-v3d (doesn't break hardware video acceleration) to /boot/config.txt
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[23:05] <Hitechcg> you can do a lot of stuff with it, I've run the full version of Minecraft (not Pi Edition) on my Pi 3
[23:05] <Hitechcg> unfortunately, it's still experimental and breaks stuff
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[23:06] <redrabbit> https://imgur.com/a/60nbf
[23:09] <Hitechcg> beware that something with Gallium/llvmpipe was broken between jessie and stretch if you choose to use software OpenGL emulation (the default)
[23:10] <Hitechcg> for instance, glxgears shows incorrect colors and is much slower
[23:11] <Hitechcg> easiest way to fix it is to temporarily add the jessie repos and downgrade the libgl1-mesa-dri package
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[23:22] * jsgrant hopes the RPi4 will support Vulkan.
[23:22] <jsgrant> Hitechcg, Making a note; Ty.
[23:22] <shauno> rofl
[23:25] <jsgrant> I'll messabout for a few weeks or months, regardless, may end up on Odroid Xu4 though. :^P
[23:26] <jsgrant> At this point, it's more a secondary and/or nicety kind-of thing; Since I got a 'Shield Tv' I think it'll cover most of my 2018 aspirations anyways.
[23:26] <jsgrant> Trying to ease back-in.
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[23:27] <jsgrant> The best way to ease back-in, is always to give yourself a mid-to-massive project to work on. X^D
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