#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2018-02-01

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[1:03] <caoliver> What's the story on SSH over on-board WIFI failure at speed?
[1:03] <caoliver> SBC is a RasPi3.
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[1:06] <caoliver> Odd thing is that iperf does just fine in both directions.
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[1:07] <shauno> if I had to guess, I'd point at the cpu demands of the crypto
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[1:17] <caoliver> Shouldn't the machine be stable if a bit slow? We're talking about the Pi basically going AWOL when I do say ls /usr/bin over ssh.
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[1:17] <caoliver> Also, I have no similar problems over wired ethernet.
[1:18] <shauno> that I haven't seen
[1:18] <caoliver> But I need WIFI to work properly for an embedded project test series I'm in the middle of.
[1:18] <mfa298> story of onboard wifi as far as i'm concerned is that it just works.
[1:18] <caoliver> Not for me sadly.
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[1:19] <caoliver> Hangs on ssh with large output, sshfs, and scp over WIFI.
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[1:20] <mfa298> that might be more related to your setup than an issue with the pi then. maybe poor signal or router disaccotiating the pi
[1:20] <caoliver> Ping is still there.
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[1:20] <caoliver> Nothing in dmesg
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[1:20] <mfa298> or odd mtu settings on the router / client pc
[1:21] <caoliver> What's odd? MTU is 1500.
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[1:22] <mfa298> I think the only real issue I've had with wifi on a pi was with usb dongles on the early pis (the ones with a polyfuse per usb port)
[1:23] <caoliver> I know about those. The USB implementation was more than a bit flaky. Plug anything in and watch the box crash.
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[1:23] * caoliver has two of those gathering dust.
[1:23] <mfa298> but on the newer pi's I dont think I've had any issues with wifi.
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[1:24] <mfa298> that said I think there was a post on the forum with some new firmware to be tested. If you think the issues are on the pi end then maybe that would be worth a shot.
[1:25] <caoliver> Ping's motoring along, but 'squirt% ls /usr/bin' over ssh hasn't resumed in any way.
[1:27] <mfa298> reading back you're saying ping/iperf work but ls /usr/bin doesnt. so its a wifi with lots of data issue.
[1:27] <mfa298> that doesnt make sense - iperf is probably sending a lot more data than the ls
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[1:28] <mfa298> one significant difference is that ping/iperf dont need filesystem access, ls does.
[1:28] <mfa298> maybe another avenue to consider.
[1:29] <caoliver> I have a feeling I'm debugging hardware. I don't like that feeling.
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[1:40] <caoliver> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=196018
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[2:03] <puff> I'm spending a lot of time reading about components and trying to figure out which one is best, which library is best, etc. Anyone have a recommendation for a good website/forum/reddit forum/whatever to see what people think of them?
[2:03] <puff> For example just ran into a reference to kerberos.io, looked at their web page, looks decent but I can't tell if they're commercial or not, what their angle is, etc.
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[2:37] <puff> Hm, I'm really not finding many hits when I search for arducam and raspberry pi.
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[2:43] <katnip> i'm looking for better tutorials on znc and rpi than what i've found
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[2:45] <puff> katnip: Sorry, I'm a beginner too.
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[3:10] <kenndel> So I'm setting my pi up to basically run a counter for me. I'm ssh'd into it and the counter files are all working and on the pi. I bought a 5 in display and plugged it in but now I'm sitting at a login screen and wondering wtf! Do i need to plug a keyboard in and navigate to my stuff locally or can i get all this done via ssh?
[3:11] <kenndel> Is ssh not quite what i need here, do i need some sort of remote desktop thing?
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[3:31] <dez> how do i unconfigure usb lan ports on raspberry pi to use regular usb?
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[3:37] <Rukus> kenndel, are you trying to login via ssh and have your remote shell display on your 5" screen?
[3:37] <Rukus> currently, your login screen is looking for a usb connected keyboad for input
[3:38] <kenndel> Rukus, yup! Everything is up and running I'm just trying to get the gui my script runs to display on the connected device. The screen currently shows the login screen
[3:38] <kenndel> Do i just need to connect a keyboard and login then i'm good to go?
[3:39] <Rukus> yeah, if you aren't interested in ssh login, you can definitely do everything with a keyboard and the 5" screen....
[3:40] <kenndel> I am interested in ssh login! That's my ideal solution just being able to do stuff vial my ssh in the terminal
[3:40] <HighInBC> ssh is disabled by default, all you have to do is place a file called "ssh" in the boot partition
[3:40] <HighInBC> from another computer
[3:40] <HighInBC> I think I remember that right
[3:40] <kenndel> Oh i'm ssh'd
[3:40] <Rukus> I'm a bit of a novice, but if you are interested in having what you do on the ssh login display on that 5" screen, you may want to look into a thin client or how to export a display from shell
[3:40] <HighInBC> yay
[3:40] <kenndel> i am all up inside this bad boy
[3:40] <Rukus> i found this
[3:41] <Rukus> kenndel, https://askubuntu.com/questions/203173/run-application-on-local-machine-and-show-gui-on-remote-display
[3:41] <kenndel> Rukus, let me check that out!
[3:42] <Rukus> kenndel, ssh -X username@desktop_pc_ip
[3:42] <Rukus> i think
[3:43] <Rukus> thats from that guide
[3:43] <kenndel> if you ssh with -X it will run the gui application on the computer you are sshing from
[3:43] <Rukus> ah
[3:43] <kenndel> so it uses the pi (in this case) as the engine for it
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[3:43] <kenndel> i need basically the reverse
[3:43] <Rukus> wait
[3:43] <kenndel> i just want to be able to call this gui program and spit it out on the display
[3:44] <Rukus> maybe thats a bash thing
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[3:46] <Rukus> i dont think we are far off on this
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[3:48] <shauno> tried just running your program from /etc/rc.local?
[3:49] <Rukus> kenndel, you need to set the display i think
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[3:55] <Rukus> kenndel, io think this is what you want: ssh yourserver 'DISPLAY=:0 nohup bash ./yourscript'
[3:56] <shauno> that's not going to do a whole lot because bash isn't an X app
[3:56] <Rukus> then it should display your script on the screen attached to the pi
[3:56] <Rukus> i dont think it matters here?
[3:56] <Rukus> sorry, what i mean is i dont understand i guess
[3:58] <Rukus> yeah nevermind i get it
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[4:08] <Rukus> kenndel, it got me interested to learn and i found "screen"
[4:08] <Rukus> https://www.gnu.org/software/screen/manual/screen.html
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[4:11] <kenndel> I use screen for a bot that i run. It's primary function is to be able to exit the shell so you can close your ssh.
[4:12] <kenndel> so to run my bot i do >screen >python3 mybot.py (here the bot starts running then you press ctrl+a then ctrl+d)
[4:12] <kenndel> then you can exit the terminal and close the ssh, it will continue to run.
[4:12] <kenndel> now ssh back into your server and type "screen -r"
[4:12] <kenndel> gets you back to whatever is running
[4:13] <dez> how do i unconfigure usb lan ports on raspberry pi to use regular usb?
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[4:15] <dez> anyone can help?
[4:15] <dez> pretty please?
[4:18] <Rukus> kenndel, ah i get what it does. that sounds like a helpful application
[4:19] <kenndel> Ya, screen comes up a ton!
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[4:20] <Rukus> can you not use screen to connect to another session?
[4:20] <Rukus> or is that fact that the pi is stuck ata login screen, its not really ina session ?
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[4:21] <Rukus> yeah i guess you could connect to another users terminal.... but no one would be logged in at the pi
[4:22] <Rukus> s/terminal/session
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[4:24] <Rukus> dez, unconfigure usb ports to waa?
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[4:25] <dez> Rukus, the image for this fpv pi bot was preconfigs with usb lan
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[4:34] <Rukus> dez, the onboard lan is connected to the usb bus
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[4:36] <dez> Rukus, the pi doesnt see usb anything
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[4:40] <dez> Rukus, "Sorry for the late answer. Yes, at some point I configured the usb port as a usb-lan bridge to my computer. It should be reversible but I would have to look that up. "
[4:41] <shauno> ah the usb-gadget stuff on the pi0?
[4:42] <shauno> if it is, you need to edit /boot/cmdline to remove modules-load=dwc2,g_ether .. and remove the reference dtoverlay=dwc2 from /boot/config.txt
[4:42] <shauno> (and reboot)
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[4:48] <kenndel> Rukus, i was able to do it with screen!
[4:48] <kenndel> It's not even close to what i wanted to do but it works fine
[4:49] <kenndel> i had to get my keyboard out (touch screen for the mouse) and actually open a terminal and set up a screen sesh
[4:49] <kenndel> i was then able to get into that session and run my counter!
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[5:41] <dez> shauno, it worked, thank you very much
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[10:32] <Xenoir> Hello, I am the owner of a raspberry pi zero w which doen't want to boot. I check the official forum for solutions, but I haven't found anything relevent yet. The first thing I tried was to change the SD card but nothing, then I redownload a new os image from the official web site, nothing ... At this point I really thought that the computer was dead BUT after connecting the pi to my computer via USB otg and doing 'lsusb' or 'dmesg' I saw something, t
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[10:33] <Habbie> Xenoir, your line got truncated shortly after 'dmesg'
[10:33] <Xenoir> Ok second attempt
[10:33] <Xenoir> Hello, I am the owner of a raspberry pi zero w which doen't want to boot. I check the official forum for solutions, but I haven't found anything relevent yet. The first thing I tried was to change the SD card but nothing, then I redownload a new os image from the official web site, nothing ... At this point I really thought that the computer was dead BUT after connecting the pi to
[10:33] <Xenoir> my omputer via
[10:34] <Xenoir> I retry ....
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[10:35] <Lartza> What image and how did you install it?
[10:35] <Xenoir> Hello, I am the owner of a raspberry pi zero w which doen't want to boot. I check the official forum for solutions, but I haven't found anything relevent yet. The first thing I tried was to change the SD card but nothing, then I redownload a new os image from the official web site, nothing ...
[10:35] <Xenoir> At this point I really thought that the computer was dead BUT after connecting the pi to my computer via USB otg and doing 'lsusb' or 'dmesg' I saw something, the raspberry was recognized \o/
[10:35] <Xenoir> I also check the voltage on the GPIO and it was good 5V and 3.3V were still there. But now I'm stuck, I have a rapsberry which seems not dead but wont boot. Can anybody help me ? Thx
[10:35] <Habbie> Xenoir, answer Lartza's question and then we might have more questions
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[10:37] <Xenoir> Lartza: So I install stretch image I tried lite at full version. To burn the image I did : sudo dd if="image_path" of="SD card path" bs=1M; sync
[10:38] <Xenoir> *and
[10:38] <Habbie> what did the SD card path look like?
[10:39] <Xenoir> I have also a raspberry pi 3 at home I tried the freshly burned sd card on it and it worked.
[10:40] <Habbie> ok, good
[10:40] <Habbie> so the SD is good
[10:40] <Habbie> now, you say the pi0w does not boot
[10:40] <Habbie> how do you know?
[10:40] <Xenoir> Habbie: Something like /dev/mmcblk0
[10:41] <Xenoir> Habbie: Well the HDMI doesn't display anything and I also tried to connect to the pi trought UART but nothing
[10:41] <Habbie> you have a minihdmi adapter?
[10:41] <Xenoir> Habbie: Yep :)
[10:41] <BurtyB> Xenoir, there isn't a console on by default anymore on serial
[10:42] <Xenoir> BurtyB: Oh I didn't know. So hmm how do I activate it ?
[10:42] <BurtyB> Xenoir, put "enable_uart=1" in config.txt in the boot partition
[10:42] <Habbie> you'll also need to enable serial over otg then, yes?
[10:43] <BurtyB> Habbie, not if Xenoir is using the uart as above
[10:43] <Habbie> BurtyB, that assumes there's a pin header, right?
[10:44] <Xenoir> Habbie: I didn't specify but I try to connect to the pi trought GPIO 14 & 15
[10:44] <Habbie> alright
[10:44] <Xenoir> BurtyB: Thx I will try this
[10:44] <Habbie> note they are called 8 and 10 on the board
[10:44] <Habbie> again, just checking
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[10:46] <Xenoir> Habbie: Yep
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[14:07] <zizla_> redrabbit
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[14:35] <halabund> I prepared an SD card with Raspbian on a Mac. Now I want to use that SD card for other purposes. How can I reformat it as FAT on a Mac (macOS 10.13)? Disk Utility only sees the boot partition and won’t let me restore the card to having a single partition.
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[14:36] <zizla_> so your card wasn't broken?
[14:38] <halabund> zizla_: no
[14:38] <zizla_> \o/
[14:38] <halabund> zizla_: are you referring to when I asked about a card 2 days ago?
[14:38] <zizla_> yeah
[14:38] <halabund> you have good memory :)
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[14:39] <halabund> Something seems to be wrong with the power supply I was using. I think it failed. With an ipad charger everything works fine.
[14:39] <zizla_> I dont know really how to deal with the power stuff, I receive an adaptor with my pi, I plug it in.
[14:39] <halabund> I was using this power supply: https://thepihut.com/products/7-port-usb-hub-for-the-raspberry-pi It worked fine for more than 2 years (used continuously)
[14:40] <Habbie> halabund, it should be possible with disk utility, really
[14:40] <halabund> I’m just happy that my Pi is not broken :)
[14:41] <Habbie> halabund, i'm pretty sure Erase will give you a single big partition
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[14:41] <Habbie> halabund, and if i'm wrong, no damage done
[14:41] <zizla_> Habbie supposing I had a 16GB SD, would I want to erase all the partitions and have one big FAT partition?
[14:42] <Habbie> zizla_, that is what 99% of devices you stick an SD in will expect
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[14:42] <zizla_> so flashing an image to that 16GB FAT partition is what usually happens?
[14:43] <halabund> I actually tried Erase, and it told me it will reformat a ~50 MB partition (not 8 GB, the size of the card). I told it to go ahead and it failed. I’ll try on Windows, hoping for better luck
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[14:48] <Habbie> zizla_, oh, sorry, you're asking about preparing a card for the pi?
[14:48] <zizla_> yeah
[14:48] <zizla_> actually I just flashed it
[14:48] <zizla_> and it partitioned it into 4 pieces so I guess it sorted itself out
[14:49] <Habbie> yes, no need to format beforehand
[14:49] <Habbie> 4? what did you flash it with?
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[14:49] <zizla_> just some disk image writer on linux
[14:49] <Habbie> i mean, what image
[14:50] <zizla_> raspbian liet
[14:50] <zizla_> lite
[14:50] <Habbie> should give you 2 partitions
[14:50] <Habbie> so that's a bit weird
[14:50] <zizla_> + free space
[14:50] <zizla_> right?
[14:50] <Habbie> yes, 3 if you really want to count that
[14:51] <zizla_> sweet
[14:51] <oq> zizla_: when you first boot into raspbian just run the raspi-config and expand the partition
[14:51] <Habbie> yes
[14:51] <zizla_> sure
[14:52] <Habbie> doesn't it even do that before you get to that point?
[14:52] <oq> who knows what's automatic those days
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[14:52] <shiftplusone> It does expand automatically nowadays
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[16:31] <zizla_> how long after the initial boot can I expect to find my Rpi zero on the wireless devices list of my router?
[16:32] <|werejag|> maybe 15 secs
[16:32] <|werejag|> depends on the os and its modules used
[16:33] <Habbie> i hear raspbian boots in about 15, so certainly not much longer than that
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[16:34] <mfa298> the first boot might be longer as it does the resize and related reboot
[16:34] <Habbie> ah yes
[16:34] <mfa298> but that shouldn't normally be more than a few minutes
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[16:34] <Habbie> remind me why that involves a reboot - to make sure partition table is reread correctly?
[16:34] <mfa298> I assume so
[16:35] <Habbie> i bet it could be done without
[16:35] <Habbie> then again, why bother
[16:36] <mfa298> I suspect the first boot and fdisk is really fast anyway as I think the scipt is run as init= rather than going through systemd so it seems the reasonably choice, always going to work vs saving a couple of seconds.
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[16:37] <zizla_> alright, its not appearing anyway
[16:37] <Habbie> mfa298, ah yes
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[17:14] <zizla_> redrabbit
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[17:20] <zizla_> so, for headerless: Download zipped raspbian lite, extract & write to SD, mount SD, create empty ssh file, create WPA_supplicant.conf, unmount, go, right?
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[17:21] <Habbie> sounds good to me
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[17:21] <shauno> that's all I do (without any capitalization on wpa, but I'm not sure that matters)
[17:21] <Habbie> show us your wpa_supplicant.conf minus passphrase, if it doesn't work
[17:21] <Habbie> lowercase is best, if it matters at all
[17:22] <shauno> yeah. I can't remember if fat32 even preserves that. just literally the only difference between that, and what works for me
[17:22] <Habbie> it does preserve that
[17:22] <zizla_> yeah I did mean lowercase
[17:22] <Habbie> ok
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[17:27] <zizla_> all I was going to contain in my wpa was:
[17:28] <zizla_> network={ssid="MySSID", psk="MyPW"}
[17:28] <zizla_> no comma
[17:28] <Habbie> i understand you need ctrl_interface=DIR=/var/run/wpa_supplicant GROUP=netdev
[17:28] <zizla_> just a newline
[17:28] <Habbie> before that
[17:28] <zizla_> okay
[17:29] <zizla_> I saw online also values for country= and update_config= too?
[17:29] <Habbie> yes
[17:30] <Habbie> i think when i finally found something that worked, those might have been in there
[17:30] <zizla_> I'll stick them in
[17:30] <Habbie> you don't need update_config=1 i see
[17:30] <Habbie> but it does not hurt
[17:30] <Habbie> for this purpose anyway
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[17:37] <zizla_> back, does country even make a difference?
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[17:38] <Habbie> only if you're on a channel that doesn't work in every country i suppose
[17:38] <Habbie> like 13
[17:38] <redrabbit> its a moot point though
[17:38] <redrabbit> 1, 6, 11
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[17:38] <mk-fg> Can also set lower txpower limits than you want
[17:38] <redrabbit> the other channels are crap
[17:39] <Habbie> redrabbit, ack
[17:39] <mk-fg> Though txpower limits probably don't matter much to rpi0 built-in wifi
[17:39] <redrabbit> they do something
[17:39] <redrabbit> if you lower it you get less range
[17:40] <mk-fg> If it's 802.11n, then can't you do 3+7 channel setup (or something like that) in 2.4G?
[17:40] <redrabbit> also its a way to use two wifi interfaces without too much interference in some cases
[17:40] <redrabbit> (reduce txpower)
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[17:40] <mk-fg> Which would presumably be better than 1/6/11 20MHz ones
[17:41] <redrabbit> 40mhz is not always better
[17:41] <redrabbit> only if 2.4ghz isnt crowded and range isnt too important
[17:41] <mk-fg> And built-in wifi in rpi0 can't do 5G, right?
[17:42] <redrabbit> i stick with 1/6/11 20MHz
[17:42] <Habbie> mk-fg, right
[17:42] <redrabbit> 80mhz for 5ghz
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[17:45] <zizla_> alright finally
[17:45] <zizla_> its ALIVE!
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[18:50] <mijk> afternoon
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[18:51] <mijk> I'm trying to figure out a way to get game streaming set up for my Pi. I've tried Parsec and Splashtop but I don't have a high end GeForce card so I can't do moonlight or Steam streaming
[18:54] <caoliver> Yea! My WIFI works. (SARPI + upgrade kernel/firmware from current Raspbian.)
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[18:54] <mk-fg> Yay
[18:55] <mk-fg> What is SARPI?
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[18:55] <caoliver> Slackware ARM for the RasPi
[18:55] <mk-fg> Oh, nice, didn't know there was slackware for it
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[18:56] <caoliver> I was running into lock-ups on the built-in WIFI.
[18:57] <caoliver> Up to the present, my project was using tethered (Ether) RasPis, but for mechanical reasons, I needed wireless to test a moving instrument controller.
[18:58] <caoliver> Then I found that scp/sshfs/ssh would hang if there was a lot of data transferred.
[18:59] <caoliver> No real idea why, but someone suggested switching out the firmware and kernel, and that seems to have made the pain go away.
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[19:07] <mijk> so I want to be able to run stuff like Minecraft PC on the Pi remotely, so VNC or RDP just isn't going to do it
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[19:08] <GenteelBen> Picraft
[19:08] <mijk> Minecraft PI Edition?
[19:11] <mijk> I'm not sure I follow?
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[19:13] <gordonDrogon> not sure Minecraft PC will actually run on a Pi.
[19:13] <mijk> no, remotely
[19:13] <shauno> it's been done, but it's terrible. objectively terrible
[19:14] <mijk> like splashtop or parsec but since neither work with my set up
[19:14] <gordonDrogon> I've no idea what those are.
[19:14] <mijk> game streaming clients/servers
[19:14] <gordonDrogon> so run minecraft on a Pi, but display remotely?
[19:14] <mijk> they assume you have Windows 8.1 or up and/or a $500 video card
[19:15] <mijk> run minecraft that is hosted on a more capable 64bit Intel machine
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[19:15] <gordonDrogon> ah, then display it on a Pi?
[19:15] <mijk> I've done it with Steam on a slower Intel laptop before with great results
[19:16] <gordonDrogon> not sure that's going to work on a Pi though.
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[19:17] <mijk> I mean I *could* buy exagears but I'm skeptical
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[19:21] <gordonDrogon> exagears is an x86 emulator. it's going to run as slow as a slow thing with extra slowness on-top of a vat of cold treacle on a Pi.
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[19:21] <mijk> right, I meant stream via Steam
[19:21] <mijk> via Exagears
[19:22] <gordonDrogon> not convinced, however who knows.
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[19:26] <shauno> my laptop is an i7 with an amd somethingsomething gpu. and minecraft makes the fans go so hard I'm surprised it doesn't move
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[19:27] <shauno> even if exagears was 100% efficient, I still wouldn't want to run minecraft on 1GHz & a 32Mb gpu
[19:27] <shauno> at some point you have to admit that's simply not the platform's strong suit, even before you worry about emulation
[19:28] <mijk> shauno: I would share Minecraft on the Intel i5, then stream from Steam running in Exagears
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[19:30] <shauno> it just sounds a lot like "if all you have is a hammer ...". like perhaps the better solution here is a hdmi cable for your i5
[19:31] <mijk> yeah, screw it I guess
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[19:31] <mijk> maybe find some hacks for Minecraft Pi to make it more modernish
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[19:32] <shauno> I mean, don't let me stop you. I do a lot of stupid stuff to mine. just maybe I'd rethink before putting money into it
[19:33] <mijk> yeah which is why I don't want to fork out the cash for Exagears
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[19:34] <mijk> some people are saying all it is is a chroot using qemu and a opengl to opengles wrapper
[19:34] <mijk> granted, I don't have the knowhow to set it up on my own but still
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[19:43] <gordonDrogon> wonder if the Pi can run an IP KVM client ...
[19:43] <gordonDrogon> although the last one I used was written in Java )-:
[19:43] <Habbie> there are html5 ones out there today
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[20:00] <misty5> is it hard to keep software up to date on rpi? it has a long line of distributors
[20:03] <darsie> you can do aptitude update; aptitude full-upgrade
[20:03] <darsie> Might ask you some pesky questions.
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[20:09] <misty5> lol darsie, you're here too. What are the odds.
[20:09] <darsie> 0.63
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[20:09] <misty5> I can update the pi regularely, but its software will most of the time be out of date
[20:10] <darsie> You could switch to newer versions of raspbian.
[20:10] <misty5> I usually install things from source instead
[20:10] <darsie> hf with that.
[20:10] <katnip> is there a good tutorial on installing znc on the rpi?
[20:10] <misty5> katnip: is the same a son any linux system
[20:10] <darsie> Is it different on the pi?
[20:11] <darsie> aptitude install znc?
[20:11] <katnip> and set it up?
[20:12] <katnip> i found this, https://pi.gadgetoid.com/article/setting-up-the-znc-irc-bouncer-on-the-raspberry-pi ; but it lost me for some reason
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[20:24] <squirrel> or simply install weechat on it
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[20:32] <katnip> but that isnt a bnc
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[20:33] <katnip> i want a bnc i can log into
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[20:39] <squirrel> run weechat in a screen and log into it using ssh
[20:40] <squirrel> or use it as a bouncer
[20:40] <squirrel> or connect to it using weechat-android
[20:40] <squirrel> which is the best Android irc app anyway
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[21:34] <Kaj> squirrel: you can also use weechat relay and use e.g. the glowing-bear webchat to connect to it as well :)
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[21:35] <Kaj> never tried znc on my pi by the way katnip, anyways the one that will be installed using apt-get is a very old version
[21:36] <katnip> i noticed in that article it was about 4 yrs old
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[21:37] <Kaj> Is it possible to build it manually on a pi?
[21:37] <Kaj> https://wiki.znc.in/Installation#Debian
[21:38] <Kaj> the manual build steps* not the aptitude install znc :P
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[21:39] <Kaj> ah, this is what I ment: https://wiki.znc.in/Installation#Source_Tarball
[21:41] <katnip> yeah i dont see how to set it up for use though, with a domain, etc...
[21:42] <katnip> i think i'm lost, ill look later when i'm fresh to research it
[21:42] <Kaj> after building and installing it, there will be a configfile ~/.znc/znc.conf
[21:42] <Kaj> there you can configure the port on which it runs
[21:42] <Kaj> ah using the command "znc --makeconf" it will guide you through it
[21:42] <donbruno> hello someone here, how knows peltier elements?
[21:42] <katnip> Kaj, thank you ;)
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[21:43] <Kaj> Know that there's a znc channel here as well where they might be able to help you with znc specifically :)
[21:43] <katnip> ok :)
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[21:46] <squirrel> Kaj: ikik
[21:47] <squirrel> im one of the devs of weechat android :p
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[21:48] <Kaj> Oh hahah okay didn't know that, sry :P
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[21:49] <Kaj> I love weechat ^^
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[21:52] <GrayShade> Hi, what kernel modules do I need for i2c? I loaded i2c-dev and i2c-bcm2835, but there's nothing in /dev
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[21:56] <tristero> GrayShade: that's all I have loaded, but you also need "dtparam=i2c_arm=on" in /boot/config.txt
[21:57] <tristero> that gives me /dev/i2c-1 on my Pi Zero W
[21:57] <GrayShade> I also found an option in raspi-config
[21:57] <tristero> I think that just adds that line to config.txt, but I'm not sure since I don't use it
[21:58] <GrayShade> yeah, it did
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[21:59] <GrayShade> it's working now, thanks
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[22:07] <puff> Good afternoon.
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[22:07] <puff> If I'm ordering a pi, what accessories should I get along with it? Obviously SD card, USB power supply/wall wart, protective case. If I'm getting a camera module, then I should order whatever connector/ribbon cable. What else?
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[22:08] <zleap> hdmi cable (or what you need to connect it to a tv / monitor)
[22:08] <zleap> unless you have a spare
[22:08] <puff> zleap: Ah, cool, thanks for pointing that out.
[22:08] <zleap> np
[22:08] <zleap> keyboard / mouse
[22:08] <puff> zleap: And make sure I have a USB mouse and keyboard.
[22:09] <puff> Right.
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[22:20] <gordonDrogon> puff, make sure you get a decent PSU - preferably the official Pi one, but a 2.5 amp one from a reputable Pi vendor ought to be good.
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[22:22] <binaryhermit> my raspberry pi dropped off the network :/ (not looking for support, and it's at home and I'm not, so...)
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[22:23] <binaryhermit> I actually have a suspicion as to what happened
[22:23] <binaryhermit> well, 2
[22:23] <binaryhermit> it's either locked up hard or the wifi just died as it tends to do
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[22:24] <katnip> use ethernet
[22:24] <binaryhermit> nobody asked you ;P
[22:24] <binaryhermit> kidding
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[22:26] <katnip> mine is going good, i'm just trying to figure out a project, however, i'm very tired and not fresh to think
[22:28] <gordonDrogon> I have a Pi that's been on Wi-Fi for a couple of years now - it's an A+ ... originally I was using some random Wi-Fi dongle, but from a Pi vendor, however it would lock up after a day or 2 - I changed it out for a Pi foundation dongle and it's been perfect since. Who knows what the issue was, but I'm glad it's working now.
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[22:30] <GenteelBen> Advertising for your RPi wifi adapter side business, eh gordonDrogon?
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[22:31] <gordonDrogon> GenteelBen, what do you mean by that?
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[22:31] <gordonDrogon> I don't sell Pi hardware, so am somewhat confused.
[22:32] <shauno> obviously very confused, if you're taking a single word he's said seriously (ever ..)
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[22:49] <misty5> can someone recomend a channe lthat's easy to pissoff?
[22:49] <gordonDrogon> huh
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[23:01] <shauno> full moon was last night. it seems they're late
[23:01] <gordonDrogon> yea, good, wasn't it? we didn't get the red effect here, however...
[23:01] <shauno> (yes, I know, peanut gallery. I'm procrastinating)
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[23:02] <shauno> oh we didn't get anything here. Ireland is rather attached to its cloud cover
[23:02] <stiv> all we got was clouds. and darkness
[23:03] <gordonDrogon> guess we were lucky in devon for a change.
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[23:04] <shauno> I think an ice age has passed since I was that way last
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[23:10] <shauno> actually, it was probably the 90s. That's off in the "you really need a car" territories.
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[23:10] <gordonDrogon> yes, public transport here is minimal at best.
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[23:18] <shauno> I was actually just reading about a chap who got in a spot of bother for cycling on the M5. and then cycled from london to exeter for his hearing
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[23:20] <mortalman> Does anyone know it'd be possible to make an app for both ios and android that can connect through bluetooth to the raspberry pi and control motors
[23:20] <gordonDrogon> mortalman, I know nothing about phone apps, but why not just run a web server on the Pi and do it that way? then all you need is a web browser on any device that supports it.
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[23:20] <shauno> of course. the only downside is you'd have to do all the work yourself
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[23:21] <mortalman> gordonDrogon: That's what i've been reading, but i want to make it so if there isn't an internet connecting, it can still run
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[23:22] <shauno> it doesn't really require the internet. the pi would have wifi and you'd connect to it. the pi can provide the AP if need be
[23:23] <shauno> (bluetooth would work, but then you have to write the client for both platforms, greatly increasing the effort required)
[23:23] <mortalman> shauno: How would i do that? Would the pi have to be connected to a router?
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[23:23] <gordonDrogon> Or stick a touchscreen display on the Pi and forget mobiles :)
[23:24] <shauno> that's what I meant by providing the AP. the pi can be the router you connect to (optionally)
[23:24] <mortalman> True, but i want to be able to control it through mobile, to say i make an rc car, and such
[23:24] <mortalman> shauno: That's interesting. How could i do that?
[23:25] <shauno> I've never actually tried. I'd probably start with https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/configuration/wireless/access-point.md just to keep to the path most trodden
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[23:27] <mortalman> Thank you! Then setting it up as such, would allow for control through a mobile device?
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[23:27] <shauno> well that alone would just be a connection. after that, as gordonDrogon suggested, a fair simply webapp to control it. then you don't need to write clients, as each platform has a browser
[23:29] <mortalman> Sounds good, Thank you. Ill look more into it
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[23:38] <stiv> bottle is a quick simple way to put a web face on an application
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[23:39] <stiv> (if you aren't afraid of a little python)
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[23:41] <shauno> I mean bluetooth would work too. just the level of the questions suggested that'd be an uphill struggle
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