#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2018-02-06

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[2:10] <asphyxia> hi my pies
[2:10] <asphyxia> I wanna build myself a pihole but have like no money and in au
[2:11] <asphyxia> I thought the pi zero model b would be best but I can't find it for sale anywhere. But I came across the orange pi?
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[2:14] <akk> Is there a pi zero model b? I know the 0 and the 0w. In most places it's very hard to buy a zero for $5 but easy to buy a 0w for twice that.
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[2:15] <akk> I think orange pis aren't looked on particularly favorably here but I haven't tried one myself.
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[2:17] <Aph3x-WL> i've heard orange pi's have a lot of issues that make them not worth it
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[2:34] <raynold> Ahh it's a wonderful day
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[2:52] <asphyxia> Aph3x-WL: that wouldn't surprise me
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[5:42] <IanTLopp> where would I find the sodimm connector to insert a raspberry pi 3 compute module into? all I can find are stupid expensive, and there's got to be a cheaper way to do this (in the arena of $15+ each connector)
[5:43] <HrdwrBoB> it's stupid expensive
[5:43] <IanTLopp> :( almost defeats the purpose of the compute module... ergh.
[5:44] <IanTLopp> where do motherboard manufacturer's go to get these, anyway?
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[5:46] <HrdwrBoB> direct
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[5:46] <IanTLopp> I'm trying to find manufacturer's of these things and I'm failing.
[5:46] <HrdwrBoB> looks like $30/5 on aliexpress
[5:47] <HrdwrBoB> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/5PCS-SODIMM-200P-CA0123-200N32-memory-card-slot-connector/32813153902.html?spm=2114.search0306.3.1.4115f665iWMCfM&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_0_10130_10618_10132_10131_10133_10059_10534_10313_10084_100031_10083_10547_10624_10623_441_10307_442_10548_10341_10065_10142_10340_10068_10343_10342_10103_10620_10344_10622_10621,searchweb201603_0,ppcSwitch_0&algo_pvid=5b605cfa-5c
[5:48] <IanTLopp> is that ddr2 though?
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[5:49] <HrdwrBoB> not sure
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[10:13] <lastaid> hello there. i am having an issue. i wrote a program that reads data from an VCP FTDI. When i read more than 8000 bytes, i had errors with bit flips etc.
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[10:13] <lastaid> I compared this to windows on amd64 and linux on amd64 and could not reproduce this behaviour
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[10:53] <GeekOfflineNL> hi
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[10:59] <willc> hi
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[11:04] <dreamon> hello. pi dont boot jessy anymore. kernel panic. so i copied /boot from a other image. Not i see those 4 raspberries and cursor blink. but nothin is been written..what can i do?
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[11:16] <mlelstv> are you sure that the things outside /boot are still jessie ? :)
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[11:22] <dreamon> mlelstv, I look inside /etc/debian_version → 8.0 so I thought its right.
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[11:25] <mlelstv> what did you copy from the other image?
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[11:27] <dreamon> only all /boot files of this parition
[11:27] <mlelstv> maybe it's a config for serial console?
[11:28] <mlelstv> check the cmdline.txt file
[11:28] <dreamon> ne. those were all my images on debian base.
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[11:29] <mlelstv> then boot from a fresh image to see if it still works
[11:29] <dreamon> I cannot remember maybe I upgraded to strech
[11:29] <dreamon> mlelstv, Yes this works.
[11:29] <mlelstv> I guess you now have some kind of mix
[11:30] <dreamon> dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=serial0,115200 console=tty1 root=PARTUUID=f39db2d8-02 rootfstype=ext4 elevator=deadline fsck.repair=yes rootwait quiet splash plymouth.ignore-serial-consoles
[11:31] <dreamon> me too
[11:32] <mlelstv> you believe that the PARTUUID is correct?
[11:33] <dreamon> mlelstv, no. I look inside the original cmdline.txt that one with kernel panic. it looks differnt
[11:33] <mlelstv> it's a "unique" identifier
[11:33] <dreamon> dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=serial0,115200 console=tty1 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootfstype=ext4 elevator=deadline fsck.repair=yes fsck.mode=force rootwait consoleblank=0
[11:34] <mlelstv> take over the old one. or possibly write root=/dev/mmcblk0p2
[11:34] <dreamon> I will try.
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[11:37] <dreamon> mlelstv, Now it boots ;) but panic → no workig init found try passing init= option to kernel
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[11:47] <mlelstv> then either the partitioning is broken or indeed something trashed things like init
[11:48] <mlelstv> bbl
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[11:49] <dreamon> init? which file is it=
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[11:56] <AndreeeCZ> Hello all. Would it be possible, from the bootloader to check for an inserted USB drive and if it's bootable, boot from that instead of the SDCard?
[11:56] <AndreeeCZ> otherwise, proceed with sdcard booting
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[12:19] <shiftplusone> AndreeeCZ: at least no currently with the official bootloader. You'd need something else on the sd card to check where to load linux from. Maybe uboot can do that, but I have no idea.
[12:19] <shiftplusone> *not currently
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[12:20] <AndreeeCZ> shiftplusone: the problem with this is that if the sdcard is damaged, i can't do anything from it
[12:20] <AndreeeCZ> if the kernel is dead, then that's it
[12:21] <shiftplusone> I haven't seen a card to damaged that the kernel doesn't boot. If you leave the boot partition alone, it's pretty safe. So you could have initrd that does some kind of check/recovery.
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[12:22] <AndreeeCZ> The RPi in my case is in an embedded case, "productified"
[12:22] <AndreeeCZ> the operator can upgrade the system from the application
[12:23] <AndreeeCZ> and that upgrade can also overwrite the kernel or other important stuff
[12:23] <shiftplusone> the digital signage guys tend to use things like squashfs and overlaysfs
[12:23] <AndreeeCZ> if the operator kills the unit while the kernel is being overwritten, then that's it
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[12:24] <AndreeeCZ> shiftplusone: how does squashfs/overlayfs help in this case?
[12:24] <shiftplusone> you can write the new kernel to boot, sync. modify config.txt to load the new kernel. sync.
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[12:25] <shiftplusone> squashfs doesn't help with the case of the kernel, but it does limit the reads and writes in general.
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[12:25] <lastaid> I am getting different data when reading a lot of data from a serial port when using arm linux and amd64 linux. is theree anything special about the raspian serial port
[12:26] <lastaid> ?
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[12:36] <AndreeeCZ> lastaid: how different?
[12:37] <lastaid> i only receive 7000 out of 11000 bytes'
[12:37] <lastaid> some missing in between oddly enough
[12:37] <AndreeeCZ> correct serial settings?
[12:37] <AndreeeCZ> baudrate, stopbits etc
[12:38] <lastaid> baudrate and stopbits, yes!
[12:38] <lastaid> also databits
[12:38] <AndreeeCZ> what baudrate?
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[13:37] <GrandPa-G> can someone explain why several gpio pins are high by default? (GPIO 2, 3)
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[13:40] <gordonDrogon> GrandPa-G, those 2 might be the I2C pins, if-so, then they have 1k8 resistors to 3v3
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[13:41] <GrandPa-G> gordonDrogon:yes those are the pins. Since I don't know electronics, why is that useful?
[13:41] <gordonDrogon> it's the way I2C works.
[13:42] <gordonDrogon> it means that any device can pull them low.
[13:43] <GrandPa-G> I guess I can live with the "that is how it works" answer. My client just came across it and I didn't know what to tell him.
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[14:48] <ebarch> GrandPa-G: to elaborate a bit further... the I2C protocol specifies that the Data and Clock lines must be HIGH when not in use. Here's a diagram of what an I2C transaction might look like: https://cdn.sparkfun.com/assets/6/4/7/1/e/51ae0000ce395f645d000000.png
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[14:49] <ebarch> so if those lines weren't pulled high by default, it wouldn't work for I2C
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[14:49] <GrandPa-G> ebarch:I appreciate the details.
[14:51] <ebarch> no prob. the resistors that pull the lines high are "weak" (a high resistance). so it's easy for another device to pull the lines to GND when attempting to communicate with the Pi. of course, as soon as you configure the pins to not behave as an I2C bus, you can do whatever you want :)
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[14:53] <GenteelBen> It's GrandPa-G the illest grandpa in the RPi community.
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[14:55] <GrandPa-G> GenteelBen:does illest <=> sickest?
[14:55] <ebarch> so ill that he'll crytographically sign anything you give him
[14:55] <GrandPa-G> ebarch:how does one configure the pins to not behave that way
[14:56] <ebarch> GrandPa-G: if you configure the pins as outputs, you can drive them low
[14:57] <GrandPa-G> ebarch:I tried a simple set (but really didn't test much) where I set them as outputs, then low, then inputs and it went back high.
[14:58] <ebarch> yup. if you set them as inputs, those resistors will take them high
[14:58] <GrandPa-G> ebarch, GenteelBen :I am trying to figure out if you are insulting me or complementing me.
[14:58] <GrandPa-G> ebarch:my simple solutions was to move to other pins.
[14:58] <ebarch> hah, more just joking. ill == sick (yes, a good thing)
[14:59] <ebarch> that's certainly another option
[14:59] <ebarch> but if they are inputs, the I2C pins will always get pulled high
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[15:00] <ebarch> they are physical resistors attached to the lines, so no way around them getting pulled high if you aren't forcing them low
[15:01] <GrandPa-G> ebarch, GenteelBen :either way, I am just glad to be alive. I won't remember it by lunch time anyway!
[15:01] <GenteelBen> How old are you?
[15:01] <GenteelBen> "illest" is 80s slang for "dopest", which I believe is 90s slang for "coolest", which is 60s slang for "best".
[15:03] <GrandPa-G> GenteelBen:what is the slang for the 0000s? remember I am older than dirt.
[15:04] <GenteelBen> How old are you, in Earth-years?
[15:04] <GenteelBen> 2010s slang is "fleekest"
[15:04] <GrandPa-G> My witness protection agreement prohits me from disclosing such personal information.
[15:05] <GenteelBen> GrandPa-G you're like Snoop Dogg. Nobody knows how old you are.
[15:06] <GrandPa-G> Is that the character in the cartoons that flies on his dog house in a WWI plane?
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[15:11] <GenteelBen> GrandPa-G: no that's Nate Dogg.
[15:11] <GenteelBen> It's easy to get them mixed up, I know.
[15:11] <GenteelBen> #respect to the #doggpound
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[15:44] <g105b> When I flash Raspbian to my 2GB SD card, set up the OS how I want it, then take an image of that card, it is 2GB even though not all of the 2GB is used. This means that it's common that the 2GB image is then too big to flash to another 2GB card. Any solution to this?
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[15:49] <gobostone> is wanting the next edition of the p0 to be the p3 processor+RAM too much to hope for?
[15:49] <gobostone> are there any rumors on this?
[15:49] <boomclick> g105b: i would take an image of the card with something like clonezilla.
[15:49] <g105b> There are now.
[15:49] <g105b> boomclick: that can reduce the size?
[15:50] <boomclick> it only takes an image of the used space.
[15:50] <g105b> Ah that's very interesting, I'll look into it thanks.
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[15:51] <boomclick> i use it from parted magic, although i guess it has its own distro too
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[15:51] <zleap> gobostone: not that I know of, the latest release is a Pi 0 HW so basically a pizeroW with headers soldered on hence HW
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[15:56] <gobostone> zleap: mhm
[15:56] <gobostone> fair enough. maybe I'll just slim down the rpi3 then like some people do
[15:57] <GrandPa-G> g105b:do you use windows?
[15:58] <g105b> GrandPa-G: Either Windows or Linux.
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[15:59] <GrandPa-G> win32diskimg has a new option to only save used paritions in the image rather than the whole card. 2gb cards are not all the same size. Had lots of issues with 8gb cards until I only save used space.
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[16:02] <g105b> GrandPa-G: There are two partitions on the official Raspbian image, so what would win32diskimg do about that?
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[16:03] <shiftplusone> win32diskimager would figure out the device they belong to and write to the device, not the partition.
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[16:04] <shiftplusone> actually, I seem to have failed at reading the scrollback, ignore that
[16:08] <GrandPa-G> g105b:windisk copies physical device to img file - unless you mark used space only.
[16:08] <g105b> I'll see if it helps - it would reduce my build times by about 30 minutes, as I hate to run the install scripts every single time I build one of these devices.
[16:09] <g105b> Sounds good though.
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[16:13] <zleap> gobostone: i think the orangepi zero is quad core,
[16:15] <gordonDrogon> g105b, if you have a Linux laptop you can use rsync to get the files off the old card, then format and copy onto a new card.
[16:15] <gordonDrogon> you may have seen me doing this some years back :)
[16:16] <g105b> gordonDrogon: I'm trying to create a card image of my customised Raspbian that will fit onto a card of the same size.
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[16:17] <gordonDrogon> if it's exactly the same size then you ought to be able to use dd
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[16:17] <gordonDrogon> but if your customised image is o an 8gb card then it's harder.
[16:17] <gordonDrogon> (to put it on a 2gb card)
[16:19] <gordonDrogon> so I got Pi setup the way I wanted it, then put SD card into laptop, used rsync to get files off the SD card, then had a script that partitioned a new sd card, formatted the 2 partitions then used rsync to copy the files back on.
[16:20] <g105b> gordonDrogon: do you think a clone tool like win32diskimager or clonezilla could image a smaller card? Others here have implied that it can be done, will test in a few minutes.
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[16:21] <gordonDrogon> I've no idea. I don't use windows ...
[16:21] <gordonDrogon> I'd be wary because they would need to understand the ext filesystem to move files though.
[16:22] <gordonDrogon> good luck - I've bakery stuff to do - back in a bit...
[16:22] <g105b> I have a Linux machine handy, but I don't know of any imaging software that can achieve this. All I really need is to make an image that is the size of the _used_ file space, which is around 900MB. Then this image can easily be flashed to a 1GB, 2GB, 8GB card.
[16:22] <g105b> Cool ok byebye
[16:22] <gordonDrogon> rsync can do that - it just copies files. actially cp -a can do it too.
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[16:23] <squirrel> is there a guide to rsyncing the whole sd card in such a way that it can be written back?
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[16:23] <squirrel> i'm using the following https://tail.ml/p/vusgyok5gj but no matter how i tried i couldn't restore the card using this
[16:24] <squirrel> and i had no video cable so couldn't even check the error
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[16:27] <katnip> https://opensource.com/article/18/2/block-ads-raspberry-pi
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[16:33] <red9> Seems it works by using the Pi as a DNS proxy.
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[16:33] <squirrel> i'm afraid to update my pi-hole
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[16:33] <squirrel> when i installed it, in siletly screwed up my web server
[16:34] <squirrel> now when i try to update it, it says "Web Admin repo is missing from system"
[16:34] <squirrel> gok what it will do if i let it continue
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[16:36] <katnip> i wonder if it works for all the computers in your home with that
[16:36] <squirrel> it does
[16:36] <katnip> nice
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[16:36] <gobostone> anyone have the total number of rpis sold?
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[16:44] <gobostone> Woah. Over 13 million... crazy
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[16:47] <gordonDrogon> the rsync way I use does require you to be a bit of a whiz with Linux, rsync, and how to partition and format partitions.
[16:49] <gordonDrogon> what I do: on my Linux laptop, create a directory, say image. cd image. in there create 2 more, boot and root. Then insert the sd card in the laptop and mount the first parition (this is /boot, vfat) then cp -a or rsync that into the boot directory. unmount it, then do the same for the 2nd partition - this is the root filesystem which is linux, etc. then I use fdisk -l to check the size of the first partition.
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[16:50] <gordonDrogon> next, unmout and remove sd and insert new blank one. use cfdisk to create 2 paritions on it, one vfat the other linux - the first one you make the same size as the partition on the master image (you got the numbers from fdisk -l) the 2nd is the rest of the sd card. then you format them; mkfs -t vfat and mkfs -t ext4, then you can mount them and rsync the 2 directories, one at a time back to the new sd card.
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[16:51] <gordonDrogon> once yuo've done one, you can write a script to automate it - by using sfdisk to dump the partition table in a way that sfdisk can put the partition table back in one go, then do the mkfs then the mount & rsync.
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[16:51] <squirrel> what i did was install a regular rasbian image, enlarge the partition, boot it to make sure it's working, then rsync my files back with --delete
[16:51] <squirrel> it didn't work no matter how i tried
[16:52] <gordonDrogon> you don't need to --exclude anything.
[16:53] <gordonDrogon> but you do need to do both partitions separately.
[16:54] <akk> I've also been unable to make a bootable raspbian by rsyncing the two partitions from a working card.
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[16:54] <akk> /boot works, I guess, because it gets all the way through the kernel boot, but then it never moves on to userspace.
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[16:54] <gordonDrogon> there are no magic hidden files - the boot rom code can read vfat and look for the bootloader.bin file.
[16:55] <squirrel> i've been headless so i can only say the green light flashed a bit, and the device wouldn't ping
[16:55] <akk> I don't understand how rsync -av --delete can *not* work -- seems like that should be dead simple, but I've tried it several times and it's never worked for me.
[16:56] <akk> Can't figure out what could be wrong.
[16:56] <akk> I'm also headless but I have a serial cable, so I can see the kernel boot and then nothing happen after that.
[16:56] <squirrel> :<
[16:58] * ShorTie Thinkz, it be in cmdline.txt or config.txt
[16:59] <akk> Hmm, one thing I didn't check is whether there are UUIDs in cmdline.txt or other files in /boot.
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[17:01] <gordonDrogon> there might be in /etc/fstab but I never use them.
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[17:01] <akk> Seems like there shouldn't be since that wouldn't work in the original raspbian images
[17:02] <akk> unless it adds them at first boot.
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[17:02] <akk> aha, cmdline.txt has root=PARTUUID=3e829993-02
[17:02] <BurtyB> akk, uuid are in fstab these days so it works on both SD and USB
[17:02] <akk> I'm not sure what a partuuid is or how to compare that against the other partition.
[17:03] <akk> BurtyB: There's no fstab on /boot, and the issue seems to be finishing with /boot and getting / mounted.
[17:03] <squirrel> i didn't touch my /boot when restoring and i've got no uuid's in fstab
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[17:04] <ShorTie> they just switched to uuid a few ago i do believe
[17:04] <akk> The / partition's fstab has PARTUUID=3e829993-01 for /boot, PARTUUID=3e829993-02 for root.
[17:05] <ShorTie> old backup may stll be ...p2
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[17:05] <akk> This was copied from a raspbian that had been running a while.
[17:05] <shauno> blkid /dev/whatever will tell you what PARTUUID is for the filesystem on that device
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[17:05] <squirrel> hm no wait i have
[17:05] <squirrel> akk: nice catch
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[17:06] <BurtyB> akk, sorry that was prob more in reply to gordonDrogon saying there might be
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[17:10] <akk> I'm having trouble finding a reference on these PARTUUIDs and how to get the right one for this card.
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[17:13] <BurtyB> akk, "blkid" if you're on linux
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[17:13] <akk> Ah, found it right when you said that, sudo blkid /dev/sda1
[17:14] <akk> I'd been doing blkid -p, seen on another page, but that wasn't giving the PARTUUID.
[17:15] <ShorTie> old way easier, hehe.
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[17:15] <katnip> https://www.techrepublic.com/article/raspberry-pi-cranked-up-to-11-new-odroid-n1-has-android-7-1-six-core-chip-4gb-memory-4k-support/
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[17:16] <BurtyB> ShorTie, yeah tho it doesn't work so well when you're not booting from SD heh
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[17:18] <ShorTie> sdaX doesn't work ??
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[17:19] <akk> Darnit, now the serial cable isn't working. But let's see if I can ping it in a while.
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[17:30] <niston> does the stretch lite image have gc ?
[17:30] <niston> gcc
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[17:40] <akk> Ha! That was it! I changed the PARTID in cmdline.txt and in the two lines in /etc/fstab.
[17:40] <Habbie> niston, if i recall correctly, no - but you can apt-get anything you like on top of lite
[17:40] <akk> Still don't know why it isn't talking to serial any more, but it boots and I can ssh to it.
[17:41] <niston> ok thx :)
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[17:45] <DrunkenDwarf> Hi all. quick question, is there a way I can access the raspbian apt repository manually and download .debs for install froma browser? I need to install some stuff, but the pi im working with has no internet access whatsoever
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[17:47] <shiftplusone> if you don't need to automatically resolve dependencies, it's easy enough
[17:47] <shiftplusone> archive.raspberrypi.org/debian/pool/
[17:47] <shiftplusone> otherwise, it starts getting tricky
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[17:48] <DrunkenDwarf> shiftplusone, perfect, thanks. ... i will have to install one by one, resolving dependancies as they come up :P
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[17:51] <DrunkenDwarf> shiftplusone, dont spose you can search it can you?
[17:52] <shiftplusone> not easily. you can google with site:blah, maybe
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[17:53] <akk> Is "Should "console=serial0,115200 console=tty1" be okay for a pi1 in cmdline.txt if I want to use a serial cable from GPIO pins 6, 8 and 10?
[17:54] <akk> And no enable_uart=1 or dtoverlay=pi3-disable-bt in config.txt, right?
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[18:09] <blackyin> he
[18:09] <blackyin> hello
[18:10] <blackyin> does anybody tried to connect 3,5' LCD WaveShare screen to raspberrry pi zero?
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[18:15] <blackyin> does anybody tried to connect 3,5' LCD WaveShare
[18:15] <blackyin> screen to raspberrry pi zero?
[18:16] <akk> blackyin: Repeating the same question every few minutes probably isn't going to help. Maybe every hour.
[18:17] <akk> I had one of those cheap screens (different brand) but couldn't get touch to work, and ended up sending it back.
[18:18] <akk> The one I tried was an HDMI version on a pi3, but it seems like all the cheap screens have driver problems if you want touch.
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[18:32] <BurtyB> ShorTie, sure - but most aren't going to have an easy way to edit /etc/fstab to change "/" and "/boot" from mmc.. to sd..
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[18:37] <blackyin> akk problem with touch only?
[18:37] <akk> The display I had worked great for displaying, but I couldn't get it to work as a touchscreen.
[18:38] <blackyin> uhg
[18:39] <blackyin> i have GPIO screen and dont work in both case
[18:39] <blackyin> still white screen
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[18:39] <blackyin> i am talking about this screen : https://www.waveshare.com/wiki/3.5inch_RPi_LCD_(A)#Driver
[18:40] <akk> I've only tried an HDMI screen so I can't help with that. The HDMI one worked right away for displaying, just like any HDMI screen.
[18:40] <blackyin> yes my hdmi worked too
[18:40] <blackyin> but i need space form my project
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[19:03] <mk-fg> AndreeeCZ, One way you can work around "if kernel is broken, nothing boots" thing is to always boot same "safe" kernel first, check for user-provided kernel, then kexec it from there if it passes
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[19:08] <shiftplusone> mk-fg: kexec doesn't work
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[19:08] <mk-fg> Hm, on arm, you mean?
[19:08] <shiftplusone> on th epi
[19:09] <mk-fg> Oh, didn't know that, oh well
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[19:09] <shiftplusone> the firmware doesn't deal with it, so things don't work properly
[19:09] <shiftplusone> but you could steal the mechanism from noobs and have a recovery kernel on the main partition, then boot into another partition if it looks okay
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[19:10] <shiftplusone> you can do 'reboot 2' and that will reboot and read the files off the second partition rather than the first.
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[19:11] <shiftplusone> (assuming it's a full implementation of reboot)
[19:11] <mk-fg> Yeah, using u-boot for that kind of thing is probably a better option anyway
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[19:12] <mk-fg> At least if it has any kind of gpio/peripherals support on rpi
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[19:14] <shiftplusone> I can't vouch for uboot doing everything it should on the pi. I know it's usable, but last I heard there were bits missing like setting up device tree properly for the downstream kernel, but I don't know for sure.
[19:14] <shiftplusone> Haven't had the need to go beyond the official bootloader yet.
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[19:18] <mk-fg> Same
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[20:57] <caipiblack> Dear guy's, I am using a script to display video streams from CCTV cameras at home. https://pastebin.com/VZCwXUHi I have a strange problem with that:
[20:58] <caipiblack> When the raspberry pi starts, if i run the script, it start the first camera and then when it start the second camera, the hdmi link is "probably" down, (the screen become full black)
[20:59] <caipiblack> y raspberry is configured to show the console on startup
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[21:00] <caipiblack> Something interesting is that when the "console" (witch is displayed on startup) is hiden (maybe it's something like screen saver feature?) then at this time if I start my script it correcty display the video streams
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[21:00] <caipiblack> If I mouve the mouse, the screen become black again.
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[21:01] <caipiblack> Question: Why the RPY need to be in "screen saver" state for omxplayer work properly with two instances ?
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[21:44] <Luke> Hey guys, I'm looking for a simple RPi Zero RF transponder addon board. Any recommendations?
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[22:05] <red9> OT: Anyone found a video of the SpaceX Falcon Heavy core landing?
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[22:07] <Lartza> Camera cut off
[22:09] <red9> yeah.. it sucks. So I wonder where those core stages went.
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[22:24] <red9> Chat comment from FNN: Falcon Heavy core were lost in the Ocean.
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[22:54] <Lartza> red9, They only said lost contact though
[22:54] <Lartza> When the cameras lost contact
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[22:55] <Lartza> I think...
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[22:56] <Foxfir3> Fedora or Arch for the Raspberry?Which one support the hardware ports best?
[22:56] <Lartza> Foxfir3, hardware ports?
[22:57] <Foxfir3> Lartza: not extacly hardware ports. I mean the software for the different things to try out. like camera, sensors and such.
[22:58] <Foxfir3> Lartza: will I run into some limitations?
[22:58] <Lartza> They should work equally fine on both I'd imagine
[22:58] <Foxfir3> Lartza: have you tried Fedora Arm or Arch on the Pi?
[22:58] <Lartza> I only use Arch (as opposed to Rasbian) so yes
[23:00] <Foxfir3> Lartza: okay. Great :) So.. I git pull the latest arm image for Arch? How does the setup work?
[23:00] <Lartza> git pull? image? whut
[23:01] <Foxfir3> Lartza: Guessing you build the system from scratch?
[23:01] <Lartza> No?
[23:01] <Foxfir3> Lartza: I mean, the image you started out with.
[23:01] <red9> FreeBSD.org
[23:01] <Lartza> Foxfir3, Download, bsdtar, done
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[23:02] <Lartza> well have to create and mount the partitions but yeah
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[23:05] <Foxfir3> Lartza: wow.. okay. FreeBSD. That suprises me. Thanks guys. I will do some reading and try It out :)
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