#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2018-02-14

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[0:41] <GrandPa-G> shiftplusone:I made progrees. Looks like maybe loose connector. Works more like what I thought it should.
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[1:04] <Maai> /quit remember to use all fingers slowly(!) while typing
[1:04] <Maai> ...
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[1:17] <terminalator> When specifying the "udp" option in combination with nfs in /etc/fstab. I'm getting the following: "mount.nfs: an incorrect mount option was specified". How does one fix this?
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[1:20] <terminalator> I've fixed it by adding the following option "nfsvers=3"
[1:21] <terminalator> Strange tho, because I don't have to specify that specific option on my destop
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[2:49] <sirukin> I have a Pi Zero 1.3 (non-wifi), how do I do a headless setup with ssh over usb?
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[2:52] <squirrel> https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/remote-access/ssh/
[2:54] <sirukin> nvm, got it
[2:54] <sirukin> Just needed the IP; works the way it is
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[3:05] <sirukin> Now, can I set a static IP and configure it to use my host PC's existing network connectivity to the internet?
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[3:08] <squirrel> don't you have like a router
[3:09] <sirukin> Set route to that? I don't need to bridge the usb interface and my ethernet card?
[3:13] <squirrel> router as in a device
[3:14] <sirukin> So....connect the usb cable to the router?
[3:14] <sirukin> That does not make sense
[3:14] <sirukin> Anyway, I'll figure it out
[3:14] <squirrel> something like this https://rukminim1.flixcart.com/image/832/832/router/x/h/4/tp-link-150mbps-wireless-n-original-imad7hnetyc2myfz.jpeg?q=70
[3:15] <sirukin> Actually found a decent guide
[3:15] <sirukin> https://idea.isnew.info/how-to-connect-to-the-internet-over-usb-from-the-raspberry-pi-zero.html
[3:15] <sirukin> Sharing the internet with the pi
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[3:19] <sirukin> The issue is that using ethernet over usb means it has a connection to the host PC, however that doesn't bridge the connection. I could use ICS with windows, but the SSH tunnelling/socks proxy server seems like a better approach.
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[3:23] <sirukin> Additionally, with Raspbian Jessie do we still use /etc/network/interfaces or have we switched to chanting noises at /etc/dhcpd.conf?
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[3:33] <topicali> how can i see what rpi model i have from the CLI?
[3:34] <sirukin> cat /etc/proc/cpuinfo
[3:34] <sirukin> Should tell you what you've got running
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[3:35] <topicali> cat: /etc/proc/cpuinfo: No such file or directory
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[3:35] <sirukin> errr
[3:35] <sirukin> haha sorry
[3:35] <sirukin> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[3:35] <topicali> no worries :)
[3:35] <sirukin> I've been typing /etc/ repeatedly
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[3:35] <sirukin> Anyway, B+ will be 700MHz single core
[3:37] <sirukin> Pi 2 is quadcore
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[3:37] <sirukin> Pi 3 is also quadcore, but default clock rate is 1200MHz
[3:37] <topicali> here's what i got: https://pastebin.ca/3972406
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[3:38] <sirukin> https://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2012/09/checking-your-raspberry-pi-board-version/
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[3:38] <sirukin> Hmmm
[3:38] <sirukin> Apparently they added this command too
[3:38] <sirukin> cat /proc/device-tree/model
[3:39] <topicali> ah perfect!
[3:39] <topicali> thanks!
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[3:39] <sirukin> You've a Pi 2.
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[3:39] <topicali> yea gonna get a 3
[3:40] <topicali> is canakit still a good provider?
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[3:43] <topicali> better question: is a model newer than the current rpi 3 close to being released?
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[3:48] <stiv> the legendary/mythical pi 3.14 ?
[3:48] * stiv has no idea
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[3:50] <topicali> my plan is to run retropie overclocked
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[3:51] <topicali> ah cool, rpi3 has onboard wifi & bluetooth
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[4:14] <sirukin> Ahhh interesting. So, after briefly playing with ethernet over usb with my pi zero, each side needs a unique ip address
[4:15] <sirukin> pi zero ip is 10.10.10.2 while host pc ip is 10.10.10.1
[4:16] <shauno> sure. the kernel's just pretending it has a usb-ethernet adaptor built in. so each side is really seeing ethernet. everything should happen just like it would if you plugged a usb-ethernet dongle into the pi instead
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[4:24] <shauno> I mean, imagine you had a usb-ethernet dongle on your pi, and another usb-ethernet dongle on your computer. so you'd be doing ->usb->ethernet->usb->. and each side acts like it has a regular network adaptor. all that's happening is the kernel usb stack can do a pretty good dongle impression, so you don't actually need to physically implement the middleman
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[4:27] <en1gmaa> does anyone know "gnuplot" pretty well? im trying to get a 'plot' for a binary file. i have some info on the command that created the bin file too
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[7:49] <DJDan> How do i get myUSB Archer T2UH (mt7610u) (with monitor mode support) working on RPI 3 Raspbian ( Linux raspberrypi 4.9.59-v7+ #1047 SMP Sun Oct 29 12:19:23 GMT 2017 armv7l GNU/Linux ) ?
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[8:07] <DJDan> anyone know?
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[8:25] <freijon> hi guys. is this the place to ask about pi-hole?
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[8:30] <inc0gn1t0> Hello
[8:30] <inc0gn1t0> How are we
[8:30] <jmcgnh> freijon: can't hurt to ask. I run pi-hole, but in VM
[8:33] <inc0gn1t0> So I have a new issue. Just got a new hp with win10. Using win32diskimager to write to sd (as I always have), now doesn't allow the pi to read the sd. All the stuff is on there, but it's like windows 10 made it unreadable to the pi during write? Tried multiple sd cards on multiple pi's. Deff the pc
[8:33] <inc0gn1t0> What can I do
[8:34] <inc0gn1t0> I get no ACT LED action
[8:34] <inc0gn1t0> (Green)
[8:36] <freijon> my issue is that my pi-hole (using RPI3) only blocks IPv4 addresses but not IPv6 addresses
[8:37] <freijon> if I check the queries then I see the same host (e.g. google-analytics.com) being blocked on IPv4 but not IPv6
[8:38] <inc0gn1t0> Effing Google lol
[8:38] <inc0gn1t0> Those sneaky bass tards
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[8:40] <jmcgnh> freijon: I saw something like that myself. I'll have to find the fix again, though...
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[8:42] <inc0gn1t0> Ok thank u. I've been searching and searching to no avail
[8:43] <freijon> jmcgnh: I did some research myself but couldn't find any solutions
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[8:43] <jmcgnh> freijon: try this, it's what worked for me: https://discourse.pi-hole.net/t/why-do-blacklisted-domains-show-ipv4-as-pi-holed-but-not-ipv6-in-the-query-log/3652
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[8:47] <freijon> jmcgnh: I'll give it a try. thanks!
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[8:53] <jmcgnh> inc0gn1t0: Should I assume you've already found this thread? http://www.raspberry-projects.com/pi/pi-operating-systems/win32diskimager
[8:55] <jmcgnh> I haven't experienced this problem (since I haven't used Win10 for creating microSD card file systems), but it seems that other people have seen the same problem and have solved it by either going with an emulation mode, or a 64-bit version, or a whole different program.
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[9:50] <inc0gn1t0> God I hate windows. Thanks tho
[9:50] <_abc_> Hello. I am new here. I am reading about freebsd @rpi, has anyone here got experiences with it? Good/bad/etc?
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[9:53] <pppingme> _abc_ almost seems pointless.. why not run a distrib thats been tweaked for the pi vs trying to kludge some bsd variant onto it?
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[9:56] <RoyK> hi all. working on this infoscreen project, we're using raspberry pi 3's, pretty standard, although only ipv6 with hw-based SLAAC to ease network config and localisation (absolute plug and play). Source code will be released when we're confortable with it. But - I'm wondering - how does a touchscreen communicate with the pi with a separate usb port, or is all this in HDMI? Does the touch screen emulate
[9:56] <RoyK> a mouse and that's it? Are there different protocols to worry about? Thanks!
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[9:58] <BCMM> RoyK: touchscreens do not emulate a mouse, as such
[9:58] <BCMM> RoyK: because a mouse transmits *changes in position*, while a touchscreen transmits *absolute position*
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[9:59] <RoyK> BCMM: I see - but do they all work the same way? not a bunch of different competing protocols? https://xkcd.com/927/
[10:00] <BCMM> RoyK: there is indeed more than one way of connecting them
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[10:01] <BCMM> for example there are screens sold specifically for the Pi that use the DSI interface for video and GPIO for input
[10:01] <BCMM> (with a custom driver for the GPIO included in raspbian)
[10:01] <RoyK> we'll need a rather large screen
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[10:02] <RoyK> so a 7" rpi screen is basically out of the question
[10:02] <BCMM> perhaps more normal is HDMI video and USB HID for the input
[10:03] <RoyK> I was looking at his https://www.komplettbedrift.no/product/800642/skjerm/skjerm/touch-skjermer/acer-27-led-t272hul#technical-details - and it says something about the screen using MPR II, which I can't find much references to
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[10:05] <BCMM> RoyK: i mean, is that just some manufacturer's brand name for something obvious like colour?
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[10:05] <BCMM> there's an irritating lack of explanation of how touch input actually works in general
[10:06] <BCMM> e.g. https://www.adafruit.com/product/2260
[10:06] <BCMM> "The touch screen shows up as a USB mouse so no special drivers needed."
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[10:07] <BCMM> this *probably* means USB HID. it won't imitate an actual mouse, but it'll work out-of-the-box using the same protocol as a standard mouse
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[10:07] <BCMM> TBH, if a monitor doesn't come with a Windows driver CD, it's a safe bet the touchscreen doesn't need a driver on Linux either
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[10:08] <_abc_> pppingme: freebsd runs fine on rpi, I asked what user experiences are known here.
[10:09] <RoyK> BCMM: I guess we'll just have to grab one and try, then
[10:09] <BCMM> RoyK: wow acer's english page is super light on details too
[10:10] <BCMM> reading between the lines, it seems to need a USB connection, but if so they *really* ought to say up-front that it's going to occupy a port
[10:11] <pppingme> BCMM I've never seen a touch screen that didn't require a usb port, although hdmi is technically capable of carrying other data, I've never seen it in actual use outside of maybe passing simple instructions for remote control of equipment in a home entertainment setup
[10:11] <BCMM> pppingme: was going to say something similar
[10:12] <BCMM> pppingme: HDMI CEC is the thing used to receive events from TV remotes, but i don't know if it has the performance for a touchscreen
[10:13] <pppingme> there is a standard for carrying ethernet over hdmi in addition to video, but I'm not sure I've evern seen it actually implemented and in use
[10:13] <RoyK> - the good thing about standards, is that there are so many of them from which to choose…
[10:14] <pppingme> mouse movement isn't that much data.. don't forget, mouses used to be a 1200 bps device
[10:14] <BCMM> pppingme: it's a small amount of data, but it requires *very* low latency
[10:15] <BCMM> see: why most operating systems use hardware-accelerated cursors drawn directly by the graphics driver
[10:15] <BCMM> i've never seen hdmi cec be fast, but that's because i've only tried it with IR remotes, which are slow
[10:16] <mlelstv> CEC is 417bit/s...
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[10:19] <BCMM> RoyK: the manual for that acer says "Note: For the touchscreen & USB function to work, you need to connect the USB cable to the NB or PC, as well as connecting through a DVI or HDMI cable"
[10:19] <mlelstv> what would you want to know? :)
[10:19] <mlelstv> except that it's a bit too large for rpi
[10:21] <BCMM> RoyK: so it's pretty much going to be USB HID
[10:21] <BCMM> mlelstv: wait, I thought the pi's hdmi out could drive up to 4k?
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[10:23] <mlelstv> you can do 4k at low refresh rates
[10:23] <mlelstv> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=100625
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[10:23] <mlelstv> but the regular resolution is ~2k
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[10:23] <RoyK> BCMM: thanks
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[10:24] <BCMM> RoyK: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/touchscreen - not debian/raspbian but might be useful for troubleshooting
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[10:31] <BCMM> mlelstv: isn't WQHD "~2k"?
[10:31] <jacekowski> 2.7 i think
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[10:39] <DJDan> rpi3 wont boot anymore... i keep getting 'swapper/3 not tainted 4.9.59-v7+' errors. "raspbian kernel panic not syncing vps unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(179,2)" / "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknow-block(179,2) " etc..... what do i do?
[10:40] <DJDan> this is after i tried to install-wifi script with mt7610
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[10:41] <mlelstv> rpi does 1920x1200 with regular refresh rates
[10:42] <BCMM> DJDan: that message usually means your root filesystem is corrupted
[10:42] <mlelstv> for compatibility with TVs you should probably use 1920x1080
[10:42] <DJDan> BCMM: how do i fix it without reinstalling
[10:43] <BCMM> DJDan: it is unlikely you can fix it without reinstalling
[10:43] <BCMM> in fact, i wonder if the SD card is stable, or whether this problem is going to recur
[10:43] <DJDan> BCMM: it happened after i did install-wifi mt7610
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[10:43] <DJDan> im trying to get a usb wifi archer t2uh to work
[10:44] <DJDan> id prefer to not loose my data and settings..
[10:45] <mfa298> DJDan: if you've got access to another linux system you might be able to try accessing the filesystem and/or repairing it.
[10:45] <mfa298> but also take this as a valubale lesson as to why backups are important (doesn't help in this caes but we've all been there and lost data like that)
[10:46] <DJDan> mfa298: how do i repair it... im using osx, but i dont think my usb sd reader works tho
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[10:46] <DJDan> isnt there a recovery mode or something on raspbian?
[10:47] <gordonDrogon> if there is no significant data on it, it's probably easier to just re-image it.
[10:47] <BCMM> DJDan: how long did you use this SD card before this happened?
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[10:47] <BCMM> if it wasn't long, you really should consider whether you've got one of those cards that just doesn't play nice with the pi
[10:48] <DJDan> agges.. its because im trying to insatl a usb wifi driver for t2uh... i tried running install-wifi mt7610 several times... it rebooted went in..said something changed.. but last time it went to this
[10:48] <gordonDrogon> personally, I'd buy a Wi-Fi dongle that worked out of the box in this instance.
[10:48] <DJDan> it said it successfully loaded the wifi driver
[10:48] <gordonDrogon> although it's great to re-use old kit, really - it's 2018...
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[10:49] <DJDan> im getting one that probably will work out of the box..
[10:49] <gordonDrogon> *sigh*
[10:49] <gordonDrogon> don't "probably". Just get the foundation adapter and be done with it.
[10:49] <gordonDrogon> however, it all depends on how much you value your time and energy... if you have plenty to spare, then use it wisely ...
[10:49] <BCMM> while downloading and executing random shell scripts is not usually the right way to install things, it's unlikely that install-wifi is actually the root cause your problem here
[10:50] <BCMM> post hoc ergo prompter hoc and all that
[10:51] <gordonDrogon> I think that install script does weird stuff to build a new kernel module.
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[10:51] <gordonDrogon> so it has all the chances of breaking it next boot ...
[10:52] <BCMM> gordonDrogon: it ought to attempt to mount the rootfs before loading wifi drivers. however, any chance that script is installing a whole new kernel?
[10:54] <gordonDrogon> I've not looked - a quick google suggested other have issues with it.
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[10:57] <RoyK> now, this one looks good (not for the infoscreens, but for some smaller panels) https://no.rs-online.com/web/p/graphics-display-development-kits/1228914/
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[11:05] <gordonDrogon> that's for the standard Pi 7" display..
[11:05] <gordonDrogon> I've used a couple of those displays - in the Pimoroni 'stand' case for them.
[11:06] <BCMM> RoyK: 1. hey cool, didn't know there was a norwegian branch of RS 2. that's one of the "other" standards, dsi for display and GPIO for input, but support is built in to raspbian
[11:06] <BCMM> RoyK: bear in mind that if you're *not* using raspbian, that display might be less than out-of-the-box
[11:06] <gordonDrogon> wonder if I could wall mount that case..
[11:09] <gordonDrogon> I use them with a basic application - the touches work just fine - it's just like left-clicking.
[11:11] <RoyK> BCMM: we're using raspbian
[11:11] <RoyK> gordonDrogon: according to the video on the page, you can
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[11:12] <BCMM> i can't see a video; what am i missing?
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[11:14] <BCMM> gordonDrogon: was wondering why it didn't have vesa mount holes, but then it occurred to me: is there a VESA mount standard small enough for it?
[11:14] <RoyK> BCMM: https://no.rs-online.com/web/p/graphics-display-development-kits/8997466/
[11:14] <RoyK> apparently they didn't link to it from the other, for some reason
[11:14] <BCMM> oh huh, there#s actually a 20*50 spec. never seen one of those for sale though
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[11:15] <RoyK> 20*50 spec?
[11:15] <BCMM> oh right, i was looking at the bundle with the case...
[11:15] <BCMM> RoyK: for vesa flat panel mount brackets
[11:15] <RoyK> yeah - the one I liked to
[11:15] <BCMM> 75x75 or 100x100 are the popular ones
[11:15] <RoyK> BCMM: doesn't look like it
[11:16] <BCMM> specs say "Wall mount features" but don't clarify what they actually mean
[11:17] <RoyK> those normal Oo-looking ones
[11:17] <RoyK> two of them
[11:17] <RoyK> it's in the video
[11:17] <BCMM> ah, i see
[11:17] <gordonDrogon> I could just punch holes in the case to wall-mount it though :)
[11:17] <BCMM> the back pulls off to reveal the holes
[11:17] <gordonDrogon> it's about �72 in the UK from RS here.
[11:18] <BCMM> oh god how can they not tell us what the hole spacing is?
[11:18] <BCMM> even the dimensional drawings don't help
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[11:20] <gordonDrogon> yea, I'd love to mount on on a small swing arm thing.
[11:21] <BCMM> this is starting to be a pet peeve of mine - too much pi-specific hardware has insufficient specs available
[11:21] <BCMM> like i was looking at an audio board, i think, and it was incredibly difficult to work out which gpio pins it actually used
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[11:22] <BCMM> they were going with a "it works on a pi and that's all you need to know" line basically, but i wanted to know whether it would work *at the same time* as some other stuff
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[11:22] <gordonDrogon> audio boards are on the I2S pins (typically)
[11:23] <gordonDrogon> but yet - one board on a HAT and that's it for you ... |-:
[11:23] <BCMM> gordonDrogon: this one definitely used some other pins for out-of-band stuff like muting
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[11:24] <BCMM> if i wanted an appliance with 1 function, where i don't have to think about the internal workings, i wouldn't be using a pi...
[11:25] <mfa298> I think the HAT spec makes it hard to stack boards, as to comply with the spec they all have to have an eeprom chip to identify the board (which will potentially clash between different hats even if the normal gpio pins wont clash)
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[11:27] <gordonDrogon> the eeprom chip IDs clash on the I2C bus - although I don't know if the Linux boot code looks for e.g. up to 8 different I2C addresses (nor do I know if the eeproms used support multiple I2C addresses like e.g. some gpio expanders do)
[11:27] <BCMM> mfa298: i thought that id thing was on i2c, which can have multiple addressable devices on it, but i could be wrong
[11:28] <mfa298> BCMM: it's on i2c, although chances are most of the people building hats use the same eeprom chip on the same address.
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[11:28] <mfa298> and I don't know if there's any suggestions on what to do if they requested conflicting dt overlays
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[11:29] <mfa298> last time I looked (a few years ago) I think the suggetion was limit to 1 hat as it solves all the headaches of supporting stacked hats.
[11:32] <gordonDrogon> just had a look at the HAT specification stuff - that's what it looks like.
[11:33] <BCMM> anyway, i didn't even want to stack hats, i just wanted to know which pins that particular HAT wasn't using so i could do actual general-purpose GPIO with them
[11:33] <gordonDrogon> so you could stack a HAT and a non-HAT board, but the non-HAT board (and code) would need to not clash with the HAT setup which happens at boot time.
[11:33] <gordonDrogon> you might be able to parse the device overlay tree thingy after it's been booted.
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[11:37] <BurtyB> if they both have eeprom you could merge the contents and write it back to one and remove the ic from the other
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[11:53] <gordonDrogon> er... haha ... yes, but ...
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[12:27] <RoyK> anyone that knows a good, integratable solution for PoE for a pi?
[12:28] <RoyK> we use it a lot for access points and such, and for these pi's with 7" touch screen, it would save us a lot of trouble if we could use PoE
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[12:34] <RoyK> …or anyone that knows a single board computer with PoE?
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[12:37] <gordonDrogon> how about something like: https://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-LINK-TL-PoE10R-TL-POE10R-PoE-Splitter/dp/B001PS4NWW
[12:38] <BCMM> RoyK: there's a PoE hat for the pi, but i don't know about "good, integrated"
[12:38] <BCMM> i'd probably describe it as bulky and expensive
[12:38] <gordonDrogon> someone was talking about the PoE hat recently - but not in a positive way that I recall.
[12:38] <BCMM> well, i guess it *is* integrated, but an external one probably makes more sense in a number of ways
[12:38] <gordonDrogon> that's splitter looks cheap 'af' compliant and has switchable output voltages.
[12:39] <BCMM> "Computer Memory Type DDR3 SDRAM" oh amazon, never change
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[12:41] <RoyK> BCMM: oh
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[12:43] <RoyK> gordonDrogon: Input voltage 36-56V, output voltage 5V, output current 10-1300mA, max output power 6.5W
[12:43] <RoyK> trenger 2,5A for å drive denne greia
[12:43] <RoyK> trur det blir kabelstrekk av strøm, jeg
[12:43] <RoyK> return -EWRONGLANGUAGE;
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[12:48] <gordonDrogon> ?
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[12:50] <BCMM> i think the poe dongle doesn't give enough power to run the screen, maybe?
[12:50] <RoyK> I just meant I need 2,5A+ for this, and I haven't found any poe splitter that can give me more than 2,4A - the poe hat is 6,5W, that is, 1,3A, which isn't even enough for a normal pi3
[12:51] <RoyK> so I guess we'll have to cable power after all
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[12:52] <BCMM> RoyK: i think you're running up against the power restrictions in PoE itself
[12:52] <gordonDrogon> that TPLink device claims 2A at 5v.
[12:52] <RoyK> not really - PoE on our switches can deliver 30W
[12:53] <RoyK> 100W with the last PoE standard
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[12:53] <BCMM> RoyK: right, but 2.4A at 5V is pretty much exactly what the original PoE standard allows
[12:53] <RoyK> all switches support "poe+"
[12:54] <RoyK> that standard is pretty old…
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[12:54] <gordonDrogon> not sure I fancy shoving 2 amps at 50v down ethernet cable to get a 100w supply 100m away, however ...
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[12:55] <gordonDrogon> anyway - you pay your money and ... etc. I'd be willing to give one of those TPLink units a try - or something equavalent - that was just the first google hit I got.
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[12:57] <mfa298> RoyK: I used some of those TP link splitters a few years back with some original Pi1s, also driving some 12V stuff so had the splitter set to 12V and then a cheap 12-5V convertor to run the Pi.
[12:57] <BCMM> hmm i guess they're all using cheapo voltage regulators or something? because a lot of them seem to provide *significantly* less power at 5V than at 12V
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[12:57] <RoyK> 7805? ;)
[12:58] <mfa298> I've also used a couple of these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/142651852254 Got a Pi3 on one of them
[12:58] <gordonDrogon> hm. 1A at 12v = 12w, 2A at 5v = 10w ... that's less but not significantly so. I suspect rounding is going on here to make the numbers easy.
[12:58] <BCMM> i've even found one offering 5V/2A, 9V/2A or 12V/2A
[12:59] <BCMM> http://www.edimax.com/edimax/merchandise/merchandise_detail/data/edimax/uk/smb_switches_poe_splitter/gp-101st/
[12:59] <mfa298> RoyK: that ebay one is definetly cheap (and probably nasty) but seems to work fine on my headless Pi3
[12:59] <RoyK> this isn't headless, though
[13:00] <BCMM> 2.4A like all the rest
[13:00] <mfa298> it claims 5V 2.4A, so might be good for what you want, My experience is headless only.
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[13:01] <BCMM> RoyK: dunno if it's available in europe but https://www.amazon.com/Intellinet-560443-PoE-Splitter/dp/B003VCBBT8
[13:01] <BCMM> found by looking specifically for "poe+ splitter" not "poe splitter"
[13:01] <RoyK> …but not gigabit
[13:02] <dan2wik> I thought the Pi couldn't do gigabit
[13:02] <RoyK> not that it'll make a big difference
[13:02] <RoyK> no, it doesn't - slow thinking today
[13:02] <BCMM> the pi isn't gigabit :(
[13:02] <RoyK> I know
[13:02] <mfa298> RS have some PoE+ devices that will give you something like 12V @2A which you could then drop to 5V with more power if you really need that.
[13:02] <BCMM> currently it's biggest weak point for me
[13:03] <RoyK> but then, I guess I'll have to design my own case and printing those will take ages with the printers we have
[13:03] <RoyK> nah - it'll be cabled power
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[13:04] <BCMM> looks splitters with enough power exist, but they're to big and expensive
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[13:08] <dan2wik> You could make your own.
[13:10] <BCMM> dan2wik has a point. if people are seriously talking about sticking a dc regulator on a 12V splitter, why not just cut out the middle man and put the regulator right on the wire?
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[13:16] <mfa298> I think there's a bit more design to it than just that for PoE, you need to be able to signal to the switch how much power you need, and there's a couple of ways power can be delivered (remember gigabit uses all 4 pairs for data as well)
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[13:23] <BCMM> mfa298: aww, fair enough i guess
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[13:29] <BurtyB> mfa298, depends if you just want to shove power down the unused pairs or do proper PoE
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[13:34] * RoyK wishes a forthcoming raspberry pi would support PoE
[13:35] <mfa298> BurtyB: well the discussion started with talking about proper PoE+ not some hacky solution.
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[13:36] <mfa298> I doubt there'll be any Pi supporting it unless PoE became fairly standard for home users, even the other SBCs that claim PoE don't really do real PoE (they just allow you access to the unused pairs to do your own theing.
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[13:41] <gordonDrogon> If the next Pi did support PoE then it's going to add (say) $10 worth of components/cost to it that 99.999% of users won't use and will complain about the price hike.
[13:41] <gordonDrogon> so you're damed if you do and damned if you don't.
[13:46] <Draylor> and if they add every feature that 0.x% of users would like you've just invented another $200 device noone will buy
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[13:53] <latenite> Hi folks, I have a RaspberryPi 3 and I want to use the analog audio jack to output music. But I can not see and soundcards. What am I missing here?
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[14:04] <latenite> also my Pi does not have a /boot/config.txt
[14:05] <latenite> Is that an error?
[14:07] <mlelstv> there are defaults if config.txt is missing
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[14:09] <latenite> mlelstv, Do you know how to enable sound on a Rpi3?
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[14:09] <Lope> does C++11 work on arm-v6 and arm-v7?
[14:09] <mlelstv> enable?
[14:09] <TehTreag> gordonDrogon: POE Splitters for those that may need it. http://www.midspans.com/pdf/Phihong_PoE_Catalog.pdf
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[14:10] <mlelstv> sound is always enabled, it's either sent to HDMI or to the analog output.
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[14:11] <latenite> mlelstv, it is set to HDMI, but I can not set it to analog.
[14:11] <latenite> mlelstv, also I think the module is missing:
[14:11] <latenite> modprobe snd_bcm2835
[14:11] <latenite> modprobe: FATAL: Module snd_bcm2835 not found in directory /lib/modules/4.14.16-300.fc27.armv7hl
[14:13] <mlelstv> maybe: hdmi_ignore_edid_audio=1 in config.txt
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[14:14] <mlelstv> and I think you need that module
[14:14] <mlelstv> snd-bcm2835 ?
[14:15] <latenite> mlelstv, I just dont see an analog audio card: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7e44c5b2b13541e0317c63d0e5748b77
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[14:17] <Lartza> latenite, dtparam=audio=on is the usual way
[14:17] <Lartza> Is /boot not mounted? What distro?
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[14:18] <Lartza> oh fedora
[14:19] <Lartza> latenite, Fedora doesn't support the analog audio
[14:19] <latenite> Lartza, Fedora doesn't support the analog audio ??? why oh why?
[14:19] <Lartza> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[14:20] <IT_Sean> Because reasons
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[14:20] <BCMM> Lope: that question is sort of a type error. sufficiently recent GCC will build C++11 code for any raspberry pi.
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[14:21] <Lartza> ^ and that GCC version is 4.8.1, which is very old at this point
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[14:23] <latenite> Lartza, is that a official statement of Fedora? How do you know it does not support the analog audio?
[14:23] <Lope> Lartza: what gcc version are you referring to? I didn't mention a secific gcc compiler?
[14:23] <Lartza> Lope, ?
[14:23] <Lartza> latenite, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/Raspberry_Pi#Does_sound_work.3F
[14:23] <BCMM> Lope: the compiler you are using is what decides which version of C++ is supported. *not* the hardware.
[14:24] <Lope> BCMM: yes, got it, thanks.
[14:24] <Lope> Anyone familiar with compiling C++? :) I've got an issue.
[14:24] <BCMM> Lope: so if you're using GCC, which is sort of the default in the Linux world, you need at least 4.8.1
[14:24] <Lope> But it's test code I'm working on, not compiling some open source software.
[14:25] <Lope> BCMM gotcha
[14:26] <BCMM> there's not an equivalent of https://packages.debian.org for raspbian, is there?
[14:26] <Lartza> No, but most of the information there applies
[14:27] <BCMM> was gonna say, assuming it follows debian, you'd have to be using oldoldstable to not have c++11 support
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[14:28] <BCMM> Lope: try asking about your problem; people aren't going to know if they can help until you ask
[14:28] <Lope> I'm trying this sample: https://www.hastebin.com/aniqibojit.cpp and when I compile it with `g++ -std=c++11 thread-test.cpp -o thread-test` on ubuntu 16.4 I get /tmp/cc2vUVKT.o: In function `std::thread::thread<void (&)()>(void (&)())': thread-test.cpp:(.text._ZNSt6threadC2IRFvvEJEEEOT_DpOT0_[_ZNSt6threadC5IRFvvEJEEEOT_DpOT0_]+0x7d): undefined reference to `pthread_create' collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
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[14:30] <BCMM> Lope: add -pthread to that gcc command line
[14:30] <Lope> BCMM you genius! it's working.
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[14:30] <Lope> Thanks
[14:31] <BCMM> Lope: basically any time you get "undefined reference" or "ld returned 1", it's a linking problem
[14:32] <BCMM> i.e. you've used functions from a library but not told GCC to link the binary to that library
[14:32] <Lope> Yes, but I figured #include <thread> was taking care of the dependency>
[14:32] <Lope> ?
[14:32] <BCMM> no, a header is basically just function prototypes
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[14:33] <BCMM> (i mean, and other things that a library might need like types, constants, error codes)
[14:33] <BCMM> but nothing to do with actually finding a binary that *implements* those functions
[14:34] <Lope> BCMM I see :) C is quite odd in that way. Headers seem a little pointless.
[14:35] <BCMM> (-pthread is kind of special and enables a bunch of different flags, including linker flags. usually linker errors mean you need to do something like -lm.)
[14:35] <Lope> I know they serve an obscure purpose, but it seems like it's overcomplicating matters to have a header and an implementation, it's not very DRY.
[14:35] <Lope> what's -lm ?
[14:35] <BCMM> Lope: i assume you're coming from a background in interpreted languages like python?
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[14:36] <BCMM> Lope: it was an example, -l means "link a library", and m is the C maths library (which gets a short name because it's used so often)
[14:36] <latenite> Lartza, what linux distribution does have analog sound on Rpi3?
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[14:37] <Lartza> latenite, Almost all others afaik, Raspbian and Arch do at least, Ubuntu Core too I guess
[14:37] <Lope> BCMM: I did some C++ in university many years ago but I've been programming for 21 years. qBasic, Pascal, VB5,6, PIC ASM, PHP, Javascript, AutoIt (basic), Node.js ES6 mostly.
[14:38] <latenite> Lartza, why oh why did I use Fedora??? I have setup EVERYTHING for the last 2 days... just to see that basic stuff like sound is not supported.
[14:38] <latenite> That is such a fail!
[14:39] <Lartza> I'd say most people don't need the analog output but it is a bit weird
[14:39] <Lope> I looked into python like 15 years ago but it didn't have nice IDE support I was comfortable with at the time so I didn't commit. I might get into python in the future, there's a lot of cool stuff that uses python.
[14:39] <BCMM> Lope: well, it's not a particularly obscure purpose. the (plain-text) header just has the compile-time components needed to interface with a library. the (binary) .so contains the run-time code of that library
[14:41] <BCMM> Lope: there is a modules system in the works for C++. it's a fairly recent thing and I don't know where it's got to, but this is one of the issues it sets out to solve.
[14:41] <latenite> Lartza, can I somehow add a soundcard to it so it will work?
[14:42] <Lartza> latenite, USB soundcards will work just fine yes
[14:42] <Lope> BCMM, oh yes, I wasn't thinking about how each file can be separately compiled and you don't need to recompile everything when you change only a few files. But still, the interface details could be grabbed from the implementation, or from auto-generated files that are stored with the implemention, removing the human error of possibly having a header different to the implementation.
[14:42] <BCMM> Lope: yeah, that's something at least some parties want to see in C++ modules
[14:42] <Lartza> latenite, I mean at least as well as on any other Linux computer
[14:42] <BCMM> but like i said, i haven't really kept up with it over the last couple of years
[14:42] <Lope> BCMM okiedokes, thanks bud.
[14:43] <BCMM> Lope: https://clang.llvm.org/docs/Modules.html#link-declaration
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[14:43] <BCMM> "Automatic linking with the link directive is not yet widely implemented"
[14:43] <Lartza> C++ keeps changing too, since 11 there is now C++14 and C++17 ;)
[14:46] <BCMM> latenite: are you using an hdmi monitor? if so it's worth checking if there's a 3.5mm jack on the back of it
[14:46] <BCMM> it's a relatively common feature on monitors that don't include speakers now
[14:47] <latenite> BCMM, I am using a very old stereo
[14:47] <latenite> Lartza, BCMM can I use this: https://www.hifiberry.com/shop/boards/hifiberry-dac-pro/
[14:48] <BCMM> latenite: yup
[14:48] <latenite> or will it still need another OS?
[14:48] <BCMM> latenite: btw the reason those exist is that the analog out on the Pi is kinda horrible
[14:48] <latenite> BCMM, what will I need to make this board work?
[14:48] <BCMM> latenite: in terms of quality, i mean. it's sort of a clever hack that enables it to work at all
[14:48] <latenite> what kernel module?
[14:49] <Lartza> latenite, BCMM, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/Raspberry_Pi#Are_the_expansion_HATs_supported.3F
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[14:50] <BCMM> Lartza: wow. um, perhaps another OS *is* the answer
[14:50] <BCMM> Lartza: then again it says something about supporting dtree overlays manually so maybe that can be figured out? i don't know
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[14:51] <BCMM> Lartza: "The first focus HAT to support will be the official Raspberry Pi Sense HAT. This will be documented using the manual process to build and load the overlay to provide access to the onboard devices as a means of demonstrating how this process works for those wishing to use this manual method in the interim."
[14:51] <Lartza> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Arch is life ;)
[14:51] <BCMM> Lartza: you don't have any monitor on this setup, right? (as in visual display, not in the audio sense)
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[14:52] <strixdio> anyone here able to point me in the right direction with p4wnp1? I see on google that I'm supposed to "run SendDuckyScript" but that doesn't seem to exist?
[14:52] <BCMM> oh sorry i've been highlighting the wrong person all this time
[14:53] <BCMM> sorry latenite, meant to highlight you rather than Lartza above
[14:53] <Lartza> :)
[14:53] <BCMM> l[tab]
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[14:54] <BCMM> (also my client gave you the same colour for some reason)
[14:54] <latenite> BCMM, I dont have a monitor on it (other that for initial setup)
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[14:55] <lastaid> hey there. i am having problems with the raspberry pi foundation kernel. it exhibits a bug when using serial->usb converters which is exclusive to the rpi branch. what i would like to know is, can anyone suggest a stable mainline kernel to go with the pi ?
[14:56] <lastaid> i am using neither the video core nor the bt, 802.11
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[14:57] <latenite> BCMM, Lartza what OS shall I use then? I really though "deeply" before I went for fedora... I guess I did not think enough.
[14:57] <BCMM> well, what do you want out of a distro? if you say why you chose fedora, perhaps we can find a distro with similar advantages
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[14:58] <BCMM> that said, raspbian is by far the most supported, what with being officially blessed by the foundation and stuff
[14:59] <Lartza> lastaid, rpi3? Arch has a version with aarch64 and the latest stable kernel. That's of course missing gpu support indeed, wireless should work
[15:00] <lastaid> Lartza: like latest stable mainline kernel
[15:00] <Lartza> lastaid, mainline kernel != stable :P but stable is
[15:01] <Lartza> It's currently on 4.15.3
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[15:01] <Lartza> the rpi kernel is 4.14.18 though so not that much has changed, but if it's a bug in the rpi patches then of course that will be fixed
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[15:09] <lastaid> Lartza: https://archlinuxarm.org/platforms/armv8/broadcom/raspberry-pi-3 are you talking about this image?
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[15:14] <Geminizer> Hello, everyone. I backed up a 32gb raspberry pi SD card and need to restore it to a 16gb card. How can I resize that backup image on a mac in order to restore it to a smaller capacity sd card?
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[15:26] <GenteelBen> Geminizer, backed up using what, to what format?
[15:26] <Geminizer> GenteelBen, using dd to an iso
[15:26] <GenteelBen> I'd say mount it then use something (gparted?) to resize the partition.
[15:26] <GenteelBen> An ISO? :|
[15:27] <GenteelBen> Hmm.
[15:27] <Geminizer> well, that was the file extension I gave it
[15:27] <Geminizer> dd of=backup.iso
[15:28] <GenteelBen> Not sure, try ##linux or #debian.
[15:29] <GenteelBen> I would convert it to a VMDK, mount it in a VM, and shrink it there.
[15:29] <GenteelBen> Then I'd convert back and apply the ISO to the SD card.
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[15:36] <r3> not #debian, #raspbian.
[15:36] <GenteelBen> #benian
[15:37] <r3> Geminizer: I would just get another 32GB SD card and do it that way, but I'm lazy.
[15:38] <r3> what you might be able to do is use losetup to mount the image as a filesystem and then go from there
[15:39] <r3> Geminizer: so something like ' sudo losetup --partscan --find --show ImageFileName.img ' ...
[15:39] <r3> then ' sudo mount /dev/loop0p1 ~/mnt ' <---- note /dev/DevicePartitionNumber, so loop0 partition p1
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[15:40] <leftyfb> Geminizer: http://www.aoakley.com/articles/2015-10-09-resizing-sd-images.php
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[15:40] <r3> yeah that looks like it would work
[15:41] <r3> good one, leftyfb
[15:41] <leftyfb> It does work. I've used it many times
[15:42] <GenteelBen> A new 32GB SD card is like $10 right?
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[15:42] <leftyfb> also: https://github.com/aoakley/cotswoldjam ... the author of that article made a util raspbian-shrink
[15:42] <GenteelBen> https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-microSDHC-Standard-Packaging-SDSQUNC-032G-GN6MA/dp/B010Q57T02/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1518619359&sr=8-5&keywords=32gb+sd+card&dpID=41f2SZSqv6L&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch
[15:43] <GenteelBen> $12
[15:43] <GenteelBen> 12 bux
[15:43] <GenteelBen> go 4 it Geminizer
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[15:46] <Lartza> lastaid, There are two but yes
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[15:48] <Geminizer> cool. thanks for all the info, guys :)
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[16:21] <DJDan_> How do I get my "USB Tp_link Archer T2UH" (MT7610U) working on RPI3 4.9.59-v7+ (Raspbian) with 'monitor mode'?
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[16:47] <lastaid> DJDan_: you could check oout the kali.arm image. it has a chance of just working
[16:51] <DJDan_> lastaid: oh how do i find that? .. last time i tried sudo wget http://www.fars-robotics.net/install-wifi -O /usr/bin/install-wifi | sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/install-wifi | sudo install-wifi mt7610 .... it detected and install the wifi.... but after a few reboots i got all these errors that corrupted my system.. ill try again tho
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[16:52] <DJDan_> not sure if that driver actually works tho as i may of done something else that corrupted the boot
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[16:54] <lastaid> DJDan_: hangon
[16:55] <lastaid> DJDan_: https://docs.kali.org/kali-on-arm/kali-linux-raspberry-pi2
[16:55] <lastaid> along those lines
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[16:55] <lastaid> those drivers do have monitor mode by default
[16:55] <lastaid> i do not know the chipset or your interface
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[16:57] <DJDan_> MT7610U is my chipset... ill give it a go.. i think i might of worked it out with the above command..but im about to check..
[16:57] <DJDan_> im on rpi3
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[17:08] <DJDan_> lastaid: the above command seemed to add a extra wlan adapter to iw dev ...but didnt seem to fill out any information...it installed a .ko driver and i tried rebooting too
[17:09] <DJDan_> as in the install-wifi mt7610 script
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[17:12] <DJDan_> lastaid: it said it installed mt7610u.ko but i dont seem to be getting it to work .. yet it says its already loaded
[17:13] <DJDan_> do i need to manually add an adapter or something or should it just work when i connect or disconnect
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[17:15] <DJDan_> oh i think i had to enable the wifi adapters first
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[17:23] <DJDan_> why doesnt sudo iw dev wlan0 interface add mon0 type monitor change phy#0 wlan0 from managed to monitor it says operation failed...
[17:23] <DJDan_> operation not supported
[17:23] <DJDan_> yet wlan0 supports monitor
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[17:28] <lastaid> maybe put the interface down, change it to monitor and then put it back up again?
[17:28] <lastaid> DJDan_: ^
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[17:35] <GrandPa-G> How can I best debug what is not working in my autostart script when the pi boots? I see something on the screen for a second and then is gone. Is there a log?
[17:37] <GrandPa-G> If I run the autostart from command line it works, but not at boot.
[17:37] <DJDan_> lastaid: ah the driver is crap.. it seems if i down it, it freezes.... also if i dont boot with the usb connected or replug it in while its booted it will crash the driver/freeze too
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[17:37] <DJDan_> lastaid: it says that ph0 wlan0 has monitor support, yet i cant add mon0
[17:38] <lastaid> which pi do you have?
[17:38] <DJDan_> pi3
[17:39] <DJDan_> iw phy0 info... says ibss, managed and monitor mode are all supported..
[17:40] <lastaid> yes, but monitor mode can be kinda tricky, and the pi has very flaky hardware support at times. i am struggeling with it myself currently
[17:40] <lastaid> try this https://www.offensive-security.com/kali-linux-arm-images/
[17:40] <lastaid> it has quite the good chance to work out of the box
[17:40] <lastaid> if not, try an alfa wlan dongle, the big silver one is like 30usd and quite good
[17:41] <DJDan_> im getting a RTL3070L based one in a day or 2, because i actually wanted this on my LEDE Router.... but in the meantime i had this... which has a shitty mt7610u instead of RT2800.... and tp-link dont support highest kernels
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[17:42] <DJDan_> would airmon-ng or something work better then using iw directly?
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[17:48] <DJDan_> lastaid: lol, well that killed it nicely...
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[17:49] <lastaid> airmon-ng would work. but when i am using it on a normal linux it sometimes gets stuck on one channel (because network manager is doing stuff etc)
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[17:52] <DJDan_> airmon-ng doesnt work it freezes
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[17:53] <DJDan_> i dunno why i cant just add mon0, the driver sure is doing something strange
[17:53] <DJDan_> it doesnt help that i cant down the link
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[17:53] <DJDan_> is raspbian wifi manager or something conflicting?
[17:54] <DJDan_> http://www.fars-robotics.net/install-wifi -O /usr/bin/install-wifi | sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/install-wifi | sudo install-wifi mt7610
[17:54] <DJDan_> noidea how that works
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[18:09] <GrandPa-G> FYI:I found my answer
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[18:13] <DJDan_> lastaid: any ideas, how to get monitor to work... iwlist wlan0 scans properly.. so the driver somewhat works
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[18:40] <DJDan_> lastaid: how do i uninstall the driver?
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[19:23] <DJDan_> how do I install on RPI3 github.com/ulli-kroll/mt7610u ... its complaining about the build dir not existing and other errors
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[19:27] <DJDan_> lastaid: still there?
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[19:52] <DJDan_> how do i create the build dir files under /lib/modules/4.9.59-v7+
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[20:50] <DJDan_> can someone help me... i keep getting errors with the module build dir when trying to compile mt7610u on RPI3 in raspbian.. https://github.com/ulli-kroll/mt7610u
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[21:28] <oxek> Is the MPEG-2 license key now free of charge for RPi?
[21:29] <shauno> I'd be surprised if it changes that soon
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[21:31] <mfa298> the patent might have gone, but you still potentially have to pay for the broadcom IP that the license also covers.
[21:31] <mfa298> I think it's been covered many times on the forum so you'll probably find a much longer answer there
[21:31] <shauno> right, that's the problem. the patent expiring means that just giving away what they charged for yesterday, wouldn't violate the patent's IP
[21:32] <shauno> that doesn't mean it won't violate whatever agreement they made with broadcom in the first place. and it's probably not something worth "biting that hand that feeds you" over
[21:32] <oxek> hmm I had no idea there's a RPi forum, thanks! (no sarcasm)
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[21:41] <Kryczek> is anyone else getting kernel panics from the onboard WiFi with the RPi3?
[21:42] <Kryczek> I am testing roaming between WiFi networks: currently just my smartphone's hotspot and a test access point, both of which I turn on/off to see the RPi switch from one to the other
[21:43] <Kryczek> but almost every time it switches I see the console start scrolling fast with error messages, I lose keyboard input etc
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[21:47] <DJDan_> how do i get https://github.com/ulli-kroll/mt7610u to compile on RPI3? Trying to get my TP-Link Archer T2UH working with monitor mode on Raspbian. Its complaining about theres no /lib/modules/4.9.59-v7+/build dir. Then when I create the dir... it says *** No rule to make target 'modules'. Stop.
[21:48] <shauno> I've no problem with wifi here, but I don't swap networks either. it just sits there and blinks at me until I get bored and wanna play sega
[21:48] <bub_> seeeeegaaaaaaa
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[21:55] <mfa298> DJDan_: from memory you need the /lib/modules/4.9.59-v7+/build pointing to the relevant header files, its been a long time since I've done such things as building kernel modules like that is usually a lot more pain than it's worth
[21:56] <DJDan_> mfa298: well theres nothing in the build dir.. how do i do that
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[21:57] <DJDan_> mfa298: its just doing the following.. https://github.com/ulli-kroll/mt7610u/issues/62
[21:57] <mfa298> I can't help there, as I said it's been a long time and things have changed several times since I did anything like that
[21:57] <mfa298> there mgiht just be a header package you can install
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[21:57] <DJDan_> mfa298: i did sudo apt-get install raspberrypi-kernel-headers .. but that didnt seem to help
[21:58] <DJDan_> its already installed.. but it doesnt actually put anything in the build dir and this seems to bomb out
[21:59] <DJDan_> raspberrypi-kernel-headers is already the newest version (1.20171029-1).
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[22:00] <mfa298> I'm not sure that /lib/modules/4.9.59-v7+/build shoudl be a dir, but as I said it's been a long time (I mean lots of years) since I've tried that so anything I had to do (which I think was a lot of difficult steps) won't be correct now
[22:01] <DJDan_> i see, well something is wrong with the makefile not sure what tho
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[22:01] <DJDan_> its a pitty that MT7610U wont natively work the usb wifi on raspbian
[22:02] <DJDan_> i found a driver, that claimed monitor support but it wouldnt actually go into monitor mode
[22:02] <DJDan_> even tho iw said it was supported
[22:03] <mfa298> I'd suggest finding a generic guide for building kernel modules on the Pi, but if you've been manually creating stuff in /lib/modules then you've potentially mucked parts of the system up so you might need to clean that up first
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[22:06] <DJDan_> hmmm possibly cd /usr/src | git clone https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux.git | sudo ln -s /usr/src/linux /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build .... but i would of thought sudo apt-get install raspberrypi-kernel-headers replaced that
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[22:07] <mfa298> I doubt you need to pull all the sources from git.
[22:07] <DJDan_> well its already /usr/src/linux-headers-4.9.59-v7+
[22:08] <mfa298> go find a *recent* guide for building kernel modules and start from that.
[22:08] <mfa298> and clean up what you've done that's wrong (might be easier starting with a clean install)
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[22:09] <mfa298> doing random stuff because a 5 year old guide says to or for no apparent reason may just leave you in a worse position
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[22:10] <DJDan_> i havent done much.. basically just installedthe raspberrypi-kernel-headers and tried to add a build dir
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[22:13] <DJDan_> cant find how to do it
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[22:14] <DJDan_> infact there already in /lib/modules/4.9.59-v7+
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[22:15] <DJDan_> under /lib/modules/4.9.59-v7+/kernel
[22:15] <DJDan_> not sure why the script wont find it
[22:19] <DJDan_> mfa298: sudo apt-get install raspberrypi-kernel-headers ..should build everything.... but the script keeps complaining that the build directory doesnt exist and then i create a blank dir and it still complains
[22:19] <DJDan_> the github wifi script
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[22:23] <mfa298> so I just installed raspberrypi-kernel-headers on a test Pi.
[22:23] <mfa298> ls /lib/modules/4.9.59+/build
[22:23] <mfa298> shows a bunch of stuff.
[22:24] <mfa298> as I said earlier your random fiddling has probably broken something.
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[22:27] <DJDan_> hmm strange.. ill try remove and add
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[22:30] <mfa298> if you've not done much on that Pi it's probably worth starting from a clean image (pretty sure I said that already as well)
[22:31] <DJDan_> now its doing this... https://pastebin.com/6SEUeRef
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[22:32] <DJDan_> theres only: /usr/src/linux-headers-4.9.59-v7+/arch/arm not arm7 dir
[22:33] <DJDan_> ( /lib/modules/4.9.59-v7+/build dir exists ) ... but now im getting the above error
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[22:35] <mfa298> ARCH=arm7l is probably wrong - where did you see to set that ?
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[22:35] <DJDan_> it put it... i just put make and it types it all in
[22:36] <DJDan_> i tried make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE= -C /lib/modules/4.9.59-v7+/build M=/home/pi/Downloads/mt7610u modules. ... more errors tho
[22:36] <mfa298> ARCH=arm is probably what it should be.
[22:36] <DJDan_> https://pastebin.com/q9ARZBbY
[22:36] <DJDan_> now whats wrong? lol
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[22:38] <mfa298> probably something in how their build system works
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[22:39] <mfa298> at risk of reapeating myself again, there's a reason I've not tried building kernel modules in a long time. It's generally more pain than it's worth
[22:40] <mfa298> and this is just proving that yet again.
[22:40] <mfa298> my only experience of trying to compile wifi kernel drivers is that of pain and disappointment.
[22:41] <mfa298> at this poitn I'm going to wish you good luck and do something more productive with my time. (now that we've solved the first of many issues you're likely to have)
[22:41] <DJDan_> mfa298: well there was a wifi install script for my MT7610U, it installed but unfortunately altho iw claiming it could monitor mode, it refused to goto monitor mode..
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[22:42] <DJDan_> this was the suggest driver to use for MT7610U... altho im open to any driver that will build in this kernel with monitor mode..
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[22:44] <DJDan_> oh i can just do make ARCH=arm
[22:44] <DJDan_> there build script is crap.. i think this should work now :)
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[22:44] <DJDan_> its compiling
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