#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2018-03-25

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[0:00] <Johnythesmith> N0Lif3 just the Pi, roughly 85? Depending on how much of it is used could be more
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[0:05] <GenteelBen> davr0s: in the future, we will install RPis in our colons and use them as health trackers, tap and pay, and ID verification.
[0:05] <GenteelBen> To pay for our purchases, the consumer merely needs to bump asses with the payment terminal.
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[0:11] <CoJaBo> N0Lif3: Probably closer to 40-50 at average loads. Dozen or so more if you count the monitor.
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[0:38] <davr0s> anyone here used any pi-clones, or are they off-topic here
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[3:31] <purplex88> raspberry pi is saying "no wireless interfaces found".
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[4:34] <phil42> i used orange pi zero
[4:34] <phil42> and chip
[4:34] <phil42> and the onion one just a little
[4:35] <phil42> orange pi zero is better because you can get it
[4:36] <binaryhermit> I regret getting a chip
[4:36] <phil42> i have used mine for a wifi ap for quite a while
[4:36] <binaryhermit> I mean, I never really used it
[4:37] * binaryhermit got the handheld... whatever you wanna call it kit
[4:37] <phil42> pocket chip
[4:37] <binaryhermit> and it's just too clunky to be useful outside of the limited default uses on the gui
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[5:00] <N0Lif3> I'd like to see a pi clone that matches my Galaxy S8 in specs. My S8 is very snappy
[5:00] <N0Lif3> and it can do so much
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[5:57] <Milos> Does anyone power their Raspberry Pi Zero by the GPIO port? Mine is very loud when WiFi is used (tried maxing out the CPU and it's silent -- only happens with WiFI) and it does not happen if powered over USB.
[5:57] <Milos> It sounds like it's coming from the 4R7 inductor. But why does it only do this when powered over GPIO?
[5:57] <Milos> I ordered some epoxy and I'm going to put some on to hopefully make it shut up.
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[6:10] <phil42> that should be ultrasonic
[6:12] <phil42> i hope the epoxy works for you
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[6:17] <Voop> Milos: i do
[6:17] <Milos> I tried two and they both do the same thing.
[6:17] <Voop> ive never heard a pi make sound
[6:17] <Milos> No sound over USB, but sound when powered via GPIO.
[6:17] <Milos> Tried two power supplies as well.
[6:17] <Voop> audible sound from the pi itself?
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[6:18] <Milos> yes
[6:18] <Milos> two
[6:18] <Voop> what kind of sound
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[6:20] <Milos> high pitch fuzz
[6:20] <Milos> like white noise
[6:20] <Milos> not a whine
[6:21] <Voop> can you tell where its coming from
[6:21] <Voop> im assuming the processor
[6:21] <Voop> oh i see above. 4r7 conductor
[6:22] <Milos> here's the file https://ufile.io/a6s78
[6:22] <Milos> sound starts at 20 sec, ends at 31 sec
[6:23] <Milos> you can hear all sorts of sounds before that anyway. same location (4R7)
[6:24] <Milos> WiFi activity triggers it. Again only happens when powered via GPIO.
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[6:24] <Voop> weird. that is a pretty annoying sound
[6:24] <Voop> never heard it before
[6:24] <Milos> damn right it's annoying :-)
[6:25] <Voop> my pi2 is powered over gpio and i use wifi although with a dongle since it doesnt have onboard wifi
[6:26] <Milos> between 20 - 30 sec I was running a speedtest so it was downloading data via WiFi, that's how I can get it to emit that constant sound. but uploading with mjpg-streamer causes it to make that sound every 1 sec if I choose 1fps. very annoying :P
[6:26] <Milos> yeah, I haven't tested with another dongle
[6:26] <Milos> any dongle, rather. this is all with onboard.
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[6:42] <phil42> sacrifice a usb cable and connect it to your power supply
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[6:43] <Milos> they're fat. I have a nice thin and long cable doing this. that was the point.
[6:43] <Milos> the USB plug would interfere with placement anyway.
[6:43] <Milos> I'll wait for the epoxy to arrive on monday and then see how much it muffles it
[6:44] <Milos> as to why it only happens if powered via GPIO, that I'll wait for someone to tell me here
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[9:16] <Johnythesmith> uuuuhm... is there a way to run sh scripts in the current folder using relative paths?
[9:17] <Johnythesmith> doesnt seem to do that by default
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[9:34] <zamba> is there a way to completely disable the onboard sound card?
[9:34] <zamba> i have an external sound card that i want to be recognized instead
[9:34] <zamba> as the primary sound card
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[9:47] <Johnythesmith> nevermind, seen as i work with a windows PC on a pi, the linebreaks had to be fixed
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[10:05] <alkisg> zamba: http://www.instructables.com/id/Disable-the-Built-in-Sound-Card-of-Raspberry-Pi/
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[11:01] <RustyShackleford> which distro should I run on my raspberry pi?
[11:02] <RustyShackleford> raspberry pi 3 if it matters
[11:02] <RustyShackleford> I got this for christmas and havent done anything with it
[11:02] <RustyShackleford> not new to linux... can I run plain old debian or ubuntu?
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[11:13] <neckro> RustyShackleford: https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/noobs/
[11:14] <RustyShackleford> but i'm not a noob!
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[11:15] <RustyShackleford> i'll give it a shot I guess. I'd prefer some vanilla distro if possible like ubuntu
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[11:16] <neckro> If you like Ubuntu, then install Ubuntu Mate.
[11:20] <gordonDrogon> RustyShackleford, stick Raspbian on your Pi. That's what 99.9% of people use and the one you'll get the most support on.
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[11:21] <Hail_Spacecake> hello
[11:21] <gordonDrogon> it's also more or less debian stretch too, so all the debian stuff more or less applies to it.
[11:21] <Hail_Spacecake> I'm trying to enable serial console on a raspi 2 model b
[11:21] <gordonDrogon> Hail_Spacecake, give up and use usb.
[11:21] <Hail_Spacecake> I just added enable_uart=1 to /boot/config.txt
[11:21] <gordonDrogon> oh, console...
[11:22] <Hail_Spacecake> and now I can't get any kind of input to the pi at all
[11:22] <Hail_Spacecake> serial doesn't work, hdmi doesn't work, and I don't think the keyboard I have plugged in is getting powr
[11:22] <Hail_Spacecake> I'm worried I might've accidentally broke something pysical on teh board while I was plugging in the serial console leads into the gpio pins
[11:22] <Hail_Spacecake> the pwr and act lights are on though
[11:23] <Hail_Spacecake> it was working five minutes ago before I added the line to /boot/config
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[11:26] <gordonDrogon> so what device is the serial console?
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[11:26] <gordonDrogon> if it's a standard PC serial port or old fashioned serial terminal then it's going to stick +/- 12v on the Pi GPIO pin. This will kill it.
[11:27] <Hail_Spacecake> gordonDrogon: usb serial adapter like what adafruit sells
[11:27] <Hail_Spacecake> tx, rx, 5v, gnd
[11:27] <Hail_Spacecake> and I'm not using the 5v pin
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[11:28] <Hail_Spacecake> I've used the usb serial adapter on other raspberry pi like hardware before
[11:28] <gordonDrogon> ok
[11:29] <gordonDrogon> the Pi is 3.3v though - but 5v from one of those isn't likely to do much harm. maybe.
[11:29] <gordonDrogon> I'd unplug everything, and start again - just power + pi + hdmi
[11:30] <gordonDrogon> ACT led normally is off - just flickers on when SD card is accessed.
[11:31] <Hail_Spacecake> gordonDrogon: I'm doing that now, getting nothing
[11:31] <Hail_Spacecake> both lights are still on
[11:32] <Hail_Spacecake> my keyboard has lights that should be turning on if its getting power
[11:32] <Hail_Spacecake> and those aren't on
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[11:37] <gordonDrogon> sounds like the Pi is dead. do the usual - check PSU voltage, SD card plugged in, SD card can be read on another PC (or Pi)...
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[11:50] <Hail_Spacecake> the card seems to work...
[11:50] <Hail_Spacecake> man
[11:50] <Hail_Spacecake> I really hope the thing isnt' dead
[11:50] <Hail_Spacecake> becuase that meant that I killed it by plugging a serial cable in
[11:51] <Hail_Spacecake> well the lights are on, it's not completely dead
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[11:53] <gordonDrogon> power LED is fairly passive. the ACT led is driven by a gpio pin.
[11:53] <gordonDrogon> you could have plugged the serial cable into the wrong place, of-course ..
[11:54] <Hail_Spacecake> pins 6,8,10 for ground, tx, rx, right?
[11:54] <Hail_Spacecake> maybe my sense of which pins the numbering starts from is wrong
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[11:55] <Hail_Spacecake> hm apparently the ACT has to be blinking for it to be reading from the card
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[12:06] <gordonDrogon> ACT blinks on SD access.
[12:07] <gordonDrogon> and yes, 6,8,10. The row nearest the outside edge.
[12:07] <gordonDrogon> breakfast time now. back later.
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[13:47] <holddd> anyone running wordpress/or other cms on a raspberrypi server?
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[13:55] <gordonDrogon> I tested wordpress on a Pi .. 6 years ago.
[13:55] <gordonDrogon> back when we thought it could do anything :)
[13:56] <gordonDrogon> it was usable, but only just - e.g. no WP plugins, etc.
[13:56] <holddd> im interested more how many concurent connections can it handle
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[13:58] <gordonDrogon> I think that, while the Pi is a great little Linux system, it's really not up to much in that department. Modern systems are a little too demanding.
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[13:58] <gordonDrogon> it won't really be about concurrent connections, it'll be about what each connection needs - if each one is going to run a million inefficient lines of php then you're doomed.
[13:59] <mfa298> pi3 might manage the web side, but you probably want the DB on something a bit faster (didn't the foundation do something like that a couple of years ago)
[13:59] <gordonDrogon> but if you can get everything in RAM - ie. minimal plugins/themes then you might make a workable system for e.g. a small office...
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[14:00] <gordonDrogon> and the 3+ with Gb ethernet would benefit from sticking the database on a NAS of some sorts.
[14:02] <mlelstv> nowadays wordpress runs on the NAS
[14:02] <gordonDrogon> ^ there is that.
[14:02] <gordonDrogon> personally, for e.g. a small office I'd use an Atom based system.
[14:03] <gordonDrogon> however, holddd , no-one can really give you a definitive figure - if it were that easy, we'd all be millionaires by now. If you want to see if a Pi can work for you, then you will have to buy a Pi and do some test and experimentation to see if it will work for you in your environment.
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[14:07] <neckro> anyone use DJB daemontools on Pi?
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[14:11] <gordonDrogon> sounds like something to do with going out clubbing ...
[14:11] <neckro> :))
[14:12] <neckro> no, is the most secure ssh system :P
[14:12] <gordonDrogon> well, it's nothing specifically to do with ssh according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daemontools
[14:12] <neckro> i use it on FreeBSD successful, running ssh thrue tcpserver
[14:13] <neckro> https://cr.yp.to/daemontools.html
[14:13] <mlelstv> DJB tools are highly configurable. All the config files are named *.c
[14:13] <gordonDrogon> I think you'll find no-one runs it on a Pi because .. systemd.
[14:13] <neckro> Well.. i found this: http://www.tuxad.de/blog/archives/2011/12/31/djb_daemontools_with_upstart_or_systemd/index.html
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[14:13] <neckro> but still not working
[14:14] * mlelstv could care less
[14:14] <neckro> Ssh is runnging through tcp server. When you try to log in, the tcp is comparing you ip with a ip from a given list. If your ip is there, you will be pass to ssh daemon for login, else will disconnect you.
[14:14] <mlelstv> for some reason, that's what ssh does by itself :)
[14:15] <mlelstv> or together with tcp wrappers
[14:15] <mlelstv> so I just put the access list into /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny
[14:15] <neckro> and for ftp?
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[14:16] <neckro> same as for ssh list, you can make a ftp allow list
[14:17] <mlelstv> for my ftpd that's true. It's running from inetd and uses the same wrappers.
[14:18] <neckro> Daemontools is use for monitoring services. I`m use it for ssh ftp tynidns dhcpd unbound
[14:18] <gordonDrogon> tcpwrappers have only been going for ~30 years though. one day they might catch on ...
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[14:19] <neckro> Is a great service written by the guy who wrote qmai. And the most important, never been penetrated :D
[14:19] <neckro> *qmail
[14:19] <mlelstv> of course qmail doesn't work :)
[14:19] <mlelstv> qmail + patches does work
[14:19] <neckro> lol
[14:20] <neckro> brb, eat
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[14:38] <neckro> Here is the install method for inittab: http://www.bytereef.org/howto/djb/daemontools-install.html Can be converted to systemd?
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[14:52] <marvinXP> hey. I've connected a camera (v2.1) to the camera connector on a rpi zero w 1.2, and enabled the camera in raspi-config, but raspistill -o photo.jpg hangs. How do I troubleshoot this?
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[14:54] <marvinXP> (yes, rebooted after enabling camera in raspi-config)
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[15:11] <ali1234> BurtyB: maybe we could get to those unused USB ports by cutting away some of the IC package, like this: https://gadgetcat.wordpress.com/tag/d2b/
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[15:15] <neckro> Succes!
[15:15] <neckro> root@raspberrypi:/home/pi# cd /service/
[15:15] <neckro> root@raspberrypi:/service# svstat *
[15:15] <neckro> ftpd: up (pid 365) 244 seconds
[15:15] <neckro> sshd: up (pid 356) 244 seconds
[15:15] * neckro malefic laugh
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[15:26] <audiofile> hi, can someone help me troubleshoot pihole+openvpn config issues here?
[15:26] <audiofile> or is there a more appropriate chan for that?
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[15:31] <katnip> pi-hole is easy
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[15:34] <audiofile> oh ok
[15:35] <audiofile> I've followed the steps outlined here https://github.com/pi-hole/pi-hole/wiki/Pi-hole---OpenVPN-server
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[15:35] <audiofile> But my openvpn config doesn't even load. It timesout
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[15:35] <audiofile> anything I should double check?
[15:36] <audiofile> I even changed the web interface option for dns to 'listen on all interfaces, permit all origins'
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[15:42] <marvinXP> what's the difference between Zero W 1.2 and 1.3? There is a Zero W 1.3, right?
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[15:45] <Zardoz> one has a 2 the other has a 3 (joking) :P
[15:45] <audiofile> lol
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[15:46] <marvinXP> original
[15:46] <marvinXP> First off, then: Is there a Zero W 1.3?
[15:46] <Zardoz> but really most of thr time it's a PCB update
[15:47] <r3> this [ https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/revision-codes/README.md ] only lists Zero W as 1.1
[15:47] <Zardoz> PCB being the circuit board.
[15:47] <r3> The Zero has 1.2 and 1.3
[15:47] <marvinXP> Hmm… yeah actually my zeroW is actually 1.1. I must have misread.
[15:49] <marvinXP> r3: thanks. I found some HW listings, but none that looked up to date. That one does.
[15:50] <r3> marvinXP: cheers
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[15:50] <r3> the parent page here: [ https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/README.md ] has a TON of information
[15:51] <marvinXP> sweet. thanks.
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[16:05] <Darkhunter> Hi, I wanted to bcm pins 2 and 3 to start as gpio.low so I executed these commands:
[16:05] <Darkhunter> echo 2 > /sys/class/gpio/export sudo sh -c 'echo high > /sys/class/gpio/gpio2/direction'
[16:05] <Darkhunter> Since that time when I connect my board with gpio I get kernel panic and linux crashes.
[16:05] <Darkhunter> Can somebody help me fix that issue? I set it back to high now but didn't help
[16:07] <gordonDrogon> Darkhunter, those pins are the I2C pins. Did you disable the I2C driver first?
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[16:07] <gordonDrogon> and - just use the gpio command - much easier - gpio -g mode 2 out ; gpio -g write 2 0
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[16:08] <Darkhunter> gordonDrogon: Yes, I blacklisted i2c, i2c_dev, spi and w1-gpio.
[16:08] <gordonDrogon> well these days it's easier to run sudo raspi-config, however ..
[16:09] <Darkhunter> gordonDrogon: Yes, I like to have it specified in my file :)
[16:09] <gordonDrogon> probably better to use raspi-config too - as it disabled the device tree stuff for those devices in /boot/config.txt.
[16:09] <Darkhunter> gordonDrogon: I don't have any gpio binary there so I used that command
[16:09] <gordonDrogon> the gpio command is pre-installed with raspbian - if using -lite, then sudo apt-get install gpio
[16:09] <gordonDrogon> oops, sudo apt-get install wiringpi
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[16:10] <Darkhunter> gordonDrogon: Okay installing. But I think it won't solve my issue.
[16:10] <Darkhunter> I also set the same for pins 14/15
[16:11] <gordonDrogon> the issue is that (maybe) you're not properly disabling I2C in the device tree and changing their modes is confising the kernel. maybe.
[16:11] <gordonDrogon> 14/15 are the serial pins.
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[16:11] <Darkhunter> I have all other regular GPIo pins already used so I have to use 2/3 or 14/15
[16:11] <gordonDrogon> that's fine, but disable them using raspi-config
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[16:12] <gordonDrogon> and note that the I2C pins have on-board 1K8 pull-ups.
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[16:13] <r3> am I missing something as I thought pin 2 is 5V power?
[16:14] <r3> oh yes, sorry, GPIO label 2 and 3
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[16:14] <gordonDrogon> that was what I was assuming - bcm_gpio pins.
[16:14] <Darkhunter> gordonDrogon: I disabled device tree by settings device_tree=
[16:14] <gordonDrogon> uh - you don't want to do that.
[16:15] <gordonDrogon> however sice you're not following my suggestions by using raspi-config, I'll leave you to it. good luck.
[16:15] <Darkhunter> gordonDrogon: I used that raspi-config but it didn't help actually
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[16:15] <r3> and really, Darkhunter, wiringpi is the way to go
[16:16] <gordonDrogon> if you start mising stuff - by hand editing blacklist files, etc. then you'll just end up in a confusion. that was what we did 5 years ago.
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[16:16] <gordonDrogon> you need devicetree today. Absolutely need it.
[16:17] <gordonDrogon> then you enable overlays (or don't). the raspi-config program is the easiest way to do this for the more popular hardware on the Pi - like the i2c, spi, serial, 1-w...
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[16:27] <Darkhunter> gordonDrogon: Okay, no kernel panic now using raspi-config :D
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[16:28] <gordonDrogon> excellent :)
[16:28] <gordonDrogon> but just rememver those I2C pins are strongly pulled to 3.3v at power on.
[16:29] <gordonDrogon> if you're controling anything critical, google for 'garage door kills girl' ...
[16:29] <Darkhunter> gordonDrogon: I am using it for optocouplers so it's bad for it...
[16:29] <Darkhunter> gordonDrogon: Better to use pins 14/15 right?
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[16:32] <gordonDrogon> they'll work, but I think even then, the Tx pin gets wiggled at power on for a few milliseconds.
[16:33] <Darkhunter> gordonDrogon: And this should set their default power to low? gpio -g mode 15 out ; gpio -g write 15 0
[16:33] <gordonDrogon> yes, however..
[16:33] <gordonDrogon> it's not a default - it will set them low at the instant you execute that command.
[16:34] <gordonDrogon> it won't be preserved over a reboot/power cycle for example.
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[16:34] <Darkhunter> gordonDrogon: So there is no software way to make it low by default?
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[16:34] <gordonDrogon> the way to get them set at boot time is to create your own device tree overlay - even then, there will be a few milliseconds (to over a second) before they get set by the kernel as it boots.
[16:35] <gordonDrogon> all pins are inputs at power on. All pins have internal pull up and pull down resistors - these resistors have power-on defaults. you need to read the manual to get their defautl values.
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[16:38] <Darkhunter> gordonDrogon: Yes, I read the pinout...But all the other GPIO pins are already used :(
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[16:41] <r3> sounds like you need a 2nd Pi! ;)
[16:41] <Darkhunter> gordonDrogon: PIN 14 is on even when set to low...We are testing it on LEDs at it shines at medium power
[16:44] <gordonDrogon> is this bcm_gppo pin 14?
[16:44] <gordonDrogon> type: gpio readall
[16:45] <gordonDrogon> to get a pinnout with modes & values.
[16:45] <Darkhunter> gordonDrogon: I am using this page: https://pinout.xyz/pinout/pin3_gpio2#
[16:45] <Darkhunter> gordonDrogon: When I set it low it still shines but at half of the power.
[16:46] <gordonDrogon> ok, bcm_14 - is the serial Tx pin.
[16:46] <gordonDrogon> use gpio readall to see what mode it's in. Should be OUT but if it's ALT0 then it's still in serial mode.
[16:48] <Darkhunter> gordonDrogon: Mode is IN
[16:49] <Darkhunter> gordonDrogon: I think I will use pins 2 and 15. These work correctly after setting them low in python script.
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[16:51] <gordonDrogon> if the mode is IN, then you need to change it to out: gpio -g mode 14 out
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[17:02] <Darkhunter> gordonDrogon: Okay it works with pins 2/15. Thanks
[17:02] <Darkhunter> gordonDrogon++
[17:02] <gordonDrogon> can't help with python though - C & BASIC only here.
[17:02] <Darkhunter> gordonDrogon: It does the same thing as wiringpi library :)
[17:03] <gordonDrogon> well - there are several gpio librarys for python - it'll depend on which one you use. I only wrote wiringPi for C & BASIC, but others ported it to many other systems..
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[17:55] <lord4163> Hello
[17:55] <maarhart> sudo unzip -p 2018-03-13-raspbian-stretch.zip | sudo dd of=/dev/mmcblk0 bs=4M conv=fsync is taking forever. Like one hour already. What should I do?
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[17:57] <lord4163> I have a Raspberry Pi Model B rev 2 and I get this noticeable hiss noise from the 3.5 mm jack.
[17:58] <myself> kill the process, try again with Etcher that includes a nice progress indicator. :)
[17:58] <lord4163> Is there anything I can do about it?
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[17:59] <maarhart> myself: Etcher gave me an error, and then I wasn't able to use the micro sd anymore. I couldn't format it. So I returned the micro sd and got a new one
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[18:00] <maarhart> but really, how long would this take approx?
[18:00] <maarhart> and is it safe to kill the process?
[18:01] <red9> alkisg, Did you find a suitable bootmanager to do this too?Try this to see what it is up to: kill -USR1 <dd_pid>
[18:02] <alkisg> red9: eh, sorry, what? :)
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[18:02] <red9> ops..
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[18:03] <alkisg> kill -USR1 dd sends a signal to dd to show its progress, but I didn't ask anything related :D
[18:03] <red9> maarhart, Try this to see what it is up to: kill -USR1 <dd_pid>
[18:03] <alkisg> The funny thing was that I'm currently running that command!!! so I was like, wth, did I paste my commands here by mistake?! :D
[18:03] <red9> (swears som at the history buffer.. ;) )
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[18:04] <red9> alkisg, All your thoughts are monitored :P
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[18:06] <stiv> all your pi are belong to us!
[18:08] <red9> s/us/\x4E\x53\x41/ :P
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[18:08] <alkisg> Hehe
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[18:11] <Farioko> Hello
[18:12] <Farioko> I just tried to run rpi-update, but it froze the whole system while downloading?
[18:12] <r3> maarhart: or use ddrescue (sudo apt-get install gddrescue)
[18:12] <Farioko> Should I turn it off?
[18:13] <alkisg> dd --status=progress shows the progress
[18:13] <r3> for all my needs, once I went to ddrescue I never went back to dd :)
[18:14] <mfa298> Farioko: in most cases you shouldn't use rpi-update - on raspbian at least the stable firmware/kernel is delivered by apt (and has been for some years)
[18:15] <r3> (sudo apt-get upgrade)
[18:16] <Farioko> mfa298: Yeah, well I thought that it might fix the hissing noise from the 3.5 mm jack...
[18:16] <maarhart> red9: what is dd? is it just the PID that I need?
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[18:17] <Farioko> mfa298: Just weird that it froze the whole system? It was just running curl.
[18:17] <red9> maarhart, dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/null &
[18:17] <red9> maarhart, ps -fel | grep " dd if"
[18:18] <mfa298> Farioko: it might be a sign of some other problem (bad SD card or bad power supply)
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[18:18] <maarhart> I forgot that I was running dd... sorry
[18:19] <red9> maarhart, ps -fel | grep " dd if" | grep -v grep | awk '{print "kill -USR1 "$4}' | sh
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[18:20] <red9> For speeds below ~10 kByte/s something is seriously wrong. All depends on actual transfer mode used. MMC-SPI is not the fastest one.
[18:21] <mfa298> red9: or you could probably replace all that with "pkill -USR1 dd"
[18:21] <red9> killall -USR1 dd ?
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[18:22] <red9> Be sure to get the right dd process if you run more than one.. ;)
[18:22] <mfa298> pkill is less keystrokes than killall ;P
[18:24] <red9> Green typing, use less energy, save the earthlings! ;)
[18:24] <Farioko> mfa298: Is the audio jack just shite?
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[18:25] <red9> Anyone used WIZnet W3100A ?
[18:25] <mfa298> Farioko: I think the analogue audio on the Pi's isn't known for being that great (it certainly wasn't on the first ones). If you want good audio get a DAC hat (there's a few different optinos out there)
[18:26] <Farioko> mfa298: or a usb one?
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[18:29] <red9> Try the cheap option, order a I2S-D/A and wire it up? possibly with some IC-amplifier.
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[18:32] <neckro> Anyone use ssh with auth keys?
[18:33] <Farioko> neckro: yes
[18:33] <akk> yes
[18:33] <mfa298> almost all the time
[18:33] <Farioko> red9: interesting
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[18:33] <neckro> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/PPyXbdp98p/ can you please look on my config?
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[18:35] <neckro> in authorized_keys i pasted ssh_host_rsa_key.pub
[18:35] <maarhart> red9: ps -fel | grep " dd if" | grep -v grep | awk '{print "kill -USR1 "$4}' | sh doesn't show anything
[18:36] <maarhart> should I run it as su?
[18:36] <akk> neckro: Dunno about your config file, but I found most tutorials skipped a step so I documented what worked for me: http://shallowsky.com/blog/linux/ssh-keys-passwordless.html
[18:36] <mfa298> neckro: you normally don't do much with the host keys, you need to generate a user key on the client with ssh-keygen and put the public part of that onto the .authorized_keys file on the server
[18:37] <r3> you're going to need to either background the dd process in order to run ps, or use screen to be able to run ps while dd is running and swap screens. I would still use ddrescue. That ps won't return anything if dd isn't running. Just wanted to point out the obvious I guess?
[18:37] <neckro> mfa298. I generate the public key with ssh-keygen -t RSA on the computer from i try to log into Pi.
[18:37] <mfa298> there shouldn't be a need to touch the files in /etc/ssh for the initial config (you might want to lock the server config down to not allowing passwords later)
[18:37] <red9> maarhart, you need to run it as root. And it won't give any output. "dd" will send some output however.
[18:38] <neckro> that file, i have paste in /etc/ssh/authorized_keys
[18:38] <Farioko> mfa298: but that will at least remove the noise when nothing is playing?
[18:39] <neckro> that file, i have paste in /etc/ssh/authorized_keys on Pi.
[18:39] <maarhart> red9: so why am I run it? to kill it safely?
[18:39] <maarhart> *running
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[18:39] <red9> to find out the progress of a running 'dd'
[18:40] <mfa298> neckro: there shouldn't be a need to touch anythign in /etc/ssh in a normal keys setup.
[18:40] <Twist> Is there any difference in USB boot between the 3B and 3B+?
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[18:40] <red9> Is the Raspberry Pi Zero headphone 3,5mm so bad in quality it won't even do for casual listening?
[18:40] <Twist> the 3B+ is new enough that the intergoogles aren't addressing it specifically yet
[18:41] <mfa298> Twist: should be fairly similar, but the OTP bits are already set and a few bugs have been fixed.
[18:42] <mfa298> red9: I don't think there's even an audio out as standard on the Zero.
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[18:42] <red9> Twist, The wetware hasn't had time to experiment with it yet. Such that the intergoogles have anything to index..
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[18:44] <red9> Pi-Zero: "stereo audio through PWM on GPIO"
[18:44] <red9> I wonder if 16 mA is enough to drive headphones.
[18:45] <gordonDrogon> mostly.
[18:45] <mfa298> red9: you can add stuff to the gpio to do it - which is effectively what's on the A/B models - but you need more than just a headphoen jack
[18:45] <gordonDrogon> the early Pi's just drive the line output socket directly from the gpio pins via some RC filters.
[18:45] <red9> And then it's the back-EMF, quantization noise and THD.
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[18:46] <red9> But the Pi-zero gpio-pwm-headphone thing should be good enough to listen to news or some occasional audio book?
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[18:48] <red9> hissing noise doesn't sound nice though.
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[18:50] <maarhart> red9: okay, sudo su first, then I ran ps -fel | grep " dd if" | grep -v grep | awk '{print "kill -USR1 "$4}' | sh , but I don't get anything. am I supposed ot wait a lot to find out the progress?
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[18:50] <red9> maarhart, do you have a running dd process?
[18:51] <maarhart> well, I hope so, how can I know this?
[18:51] <maarhart> I mean that sudo unzip | sudo dd command seems to still be running
[18:52] <red9> ps -fel | grep " dd if" | grep -v grep
[18:52] <maarhart> that gives me nothing
[18:53] <red9> try: ps -fel | grep " dd" | grep -v grep
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[18:54] <maarhart> I got this: http://paste.debian.net/1016580
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[18:55] <Voop> did you try sudo rm -rf /
[18:56] <akk> ^^ In case of any newbies here, do NOT type that rm -rf command
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[18:56] <red9> kill -USR1 3347
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[18:57] <red9> Should make your dd process print various progress info, in the terminal of dd that is.
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[18:58] <maarhart> didn't print anything in that terminal
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[19:00] <r3> how about 3345?
[19:00] <red9> no
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[19:01] <r3> maybe your version of dd doesn't support that? who knows. If it's hung, it's hung, and I would kill it, install ddrescue as I mentioned above, and not muck about with it.
[19:01] <red9> pts/0 ought to have the info by now 123456 bytes (1.2 GB) ccopied, 12.3456 s, 12.3 MB/s
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[19:02] <red9> There is one crude way to get a progress meter.. ;)
[19:02] <r3> what was the dd command you ran?
[19:02] <maarhart> red9: 3345 nothing either. I have the latest ubuntu
[19:03] <red9> Insert a " | tee dumpfile.bin " into the pipe chain.
[19:03] <red9> Then "ls -l dumpfile.bin" ;)
[19:03] <maarhart> r3: I ran sudo unzip -p 2018-03-13-raspbian-stretch.zip | sudo dd of=/dev/mmcblk0 bs=4M conv=fsync
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[19:04] <red9> sudo unzip -p 2018-03-13-raspbian-stretch.zip | tee dumpfile.bin | sudo dd of=/dev/mmcblk0 bs=4M conv=fsync
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[19:05] <red9> Though I would just "su" to become root and then: unzip -p 2018-03-13-raspbian-stretch.zip | dd of=/dev/mmcblk0 bs=128k conv=fsync
[19:05] <red9> In case of bad luck dd waits for a password prompt to fill it's input ;)
[19:06] <red9> And bs=4M is less efficient than bs=128k
[19:06] <Lartza> less efficient?
[19:07] <red9> Another approch: unzip 2018-03-13-raspbian-stretch.zip
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[19:07] <red9> Another approch: dd if=<whatever_image_file> bs=128k conv=fsync of=/dev/mmcblk0
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[19:08] <r3> then you still have the problem of dd not reporting status.
[19:08] <red9> That way password prompts, pipes, etc won't boggle up your process.
[19:09] <red9> r3, "cmp <whatever_image_file> /dev/mmcblk0" :P
[19:10] <red9> Perhaps "dd if=/dev/zero bs=512 count=1 of=/dev/mmcblk0" could tell if something is seriously wrong.
[19:11] <r3> use ddrescue.
[19:11] <red9> which will do what?
[19:11] <r3> so much more than dd. Report status, work with wonky media... the list goes on. Try it and see.
[19:12] <r3> (you want to apt-get install gddrescue, not ddrescue, btw)
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[19:25] <red9> What's up with gddrescue vs ddrescue ?
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[19:36] <maarhart> red9: okay, now I saw this: http://paste.debian.net/1016583
[19:40] <Twist> well, that was perfectly straigtforward. dd raspbian image to USB SSD drive.. attach drive to pi.. boot.
[19:40] <red9> seems it will write your card, albeit slow.. 154 kB/s.
[19:41] <red9> btw, paste.debian.net DOES support https. So..
[19:41] <red9> https://paste.debian.net/1016583
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[19:48] <Twist> man.. this Pi is starting to feel like a usable machine instead of an educational toy
[19:49] <myself> quick, do somehing silly with it! The feeling will pass.
[19:49] <Twist> I haven't installed X or a web browser yet.
[19:49] <Twist> the honeymoon period will be short, I'm sure
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[19:52] <gordonDrogon> Twist, it'll depend on your expectations - it's still a relatively slow processor with a relatively small RAM footprint compared to your average desktop these days.
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[19:53] <Twist> gordonDrogon: to be clear, I've used every version of the board in some capacity. The new hotness in my life is a 3B+ booting off a cheap 2.5" SSD. I've used SD cards until this point.
[19:53] <Twist> So all the filesystem delays that used to sap my will to live are seemingly suddenly gone
[19:54] <gordonDrogon> good-oh.
[19:54] <Twist> I'm still building up the desktop, so I haven't hit a CPU bottleneck yet. Give me 20 minutes. :D
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[19:55] <Twist> Until then, I'm just going to bask.
[19:56] <Twist> I'm just enjoying watching apt-get scroll by at reasonable speed.
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[20:00] <gordonDrogon> the whole debian package thing is horribly inefficient at the best of times though. far too many small files being noodled with.
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[20:07] <davr0s> hmmm.
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[20:09] <davr0s> maybe i got an unusual deal but after trying out a cheapo action cam (which I assumed would be really shit) , it's footage is better than the pi0+cam. the unit included case/battery making it a more efficient purchase for that purpose.
[20:09] <maarhart> red9: why would this be so slow?
[20:09] <davr0s> at least i discovered this before expanding my pi collection to 8 units
[20:10] <davr0s> and of coursei've still probably got more options for sync (+maybe there's experimentation .. settings with the pi camera i've yet to do)
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[20:15] <red9> maarhart, asfair modern are way faster.
[20:15] <red9> cards
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[20:16] <maarhart> red9: this card is a microSDHC UHS-I card, 'read up to 80 mb/sec'
[20:16] <maarhart> that does mean it writes slowly but it reads fast?
[20:16] <davr0s> hmm before i wrie off the pi as a camera , i do see people posting decent examples
[20:17] <davr0s> examples better than the footage i was able to take.. i guess some tweaking is needed
[20:17] <davr0s> perhaps the 'zero-cam' itself isnt' as good as the 'regular pi camera' ?
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[21:12] <stiv> p3 b+ on slashdot https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/18/03/25/0556258/raspberry-pi-3-model-b-benchmarks-show-significantly-improved-performance
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[21:12] <stiv> tl;dr: faster. less likely to catch fire
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[21:22] <ConkyAxis> Hi all, can the pi 3 b+ use swapped out sd from pi 3b or better yet at the berryboot image level?
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[21:24] <leftyfb> ConkyAxis: the first question (at least that's what it looks like to me) is, yes, you can use an sd card from a pi3b on a pi3b+ as long as you are running the latest raspbian
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[21:26] <ConkyAxis> leftyfb: thanks, I was under impression that it didn't work and thought swapping berryboot images might also be useful
[21:26] <leftyfb> I have no experience with berryboot
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[21:27] <ConkyAxis> it will work for the record, berryboot images get the kernel from berryboot.
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[21:34] <alkisg> I spend a few hours to get sound working with Ubuntu's "linux-image-raspi2" kernel. What I was missing was just "dtparam=audio=on" in /boot/config.txt. Why oh why isn't this on by default?!
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[21:44] <stiv> because loud noises will scare your grandparents
[21:45] <alkisg> Doubtful, I'm 45 :D
[21:45] <alkisg> It would take a very loud noise to wake them up from where they are :D
[21:45] <stiv> so grandma is already deaf?
[21:46] <myself> you typo'd. :P
[21:46] <stiv> ah. my condolences
[21:46] <alkisg> np; it's been 20 years now
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[21:48] <stiv> for the record, it does seem like a curious default
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[22:05] <maarhart> is it dangerous to interrupt a sudo unzip -p 2018-03-13-raspbian-stretch.zip | sudo dd of=/dev/mmcblk0 bs=4M conv=fsync ?
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[22:09] <Arfed> how is x265 support on the original Pi3?
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[22:12] <alkisg> maarhart: if you don't mind reformatting that card, no, it's not dangerous
[22:12] <chithead> the x265 software works like it does on any arm cpu
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[22:52] <Li> how to make rpi update its date/time from neo-6m gps module?
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[23:17] <davr0s> does the rpi support any variation of GL these days or still just GL|ES;
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[23:56] <red9> Are the 64-bit Pi's talking to DRAM through a 32-bit wide data bus?
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