#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2018-03-28

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[0:59] <troulouliou_div2> hi the defaulkt uart pins are covered by a joy-it 3.2 touch screen on my pi3 ; is it possible anyhow to redirect the uart pin to some others ? with a dbt ?
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[1:03] <BurtyB> troulouliou_div2, I don't think any of the ALT pins for it are exposed
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[1:04] <troulouliou_div2> BurtyB, and when using the bluetooth uart ; it still redirect it on the same pins ?
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[1:07] <BurtyB> trl
[1:09] <BurtyB> troulouliou_div2, it makes no difference the only accessible pins for either are 14/15
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[1:19] <troulouliou_div2> BurtyB, ok thanks
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[1:21] <Greg-J> Hey guys. I have a Canon MX922 with a dead ink head and they're so cheap to replace that it's honestly not work trying to fix. Curious if there are any fun electronic components inside that would make it worth tearing apart or if I should just scrap it.
[1:26] <Voop> of course
[1:27] <Voop> a few motors, gears
[1:27] <Voop> aluminum rods
[1:28] <Voop> the scanner light thing
[1:30] <Greg-J> Sweet
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[1:32] <Voop> ive seen someone build a fully functioning CNC pen holder out of an old printer
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[1:33] <red9> https://i.ytimg.com/vi/hnCetAefzD0/maxresdefault.jpg
[1:33] <stiv> not just motors, servo motors
[1:33] <red9> (MX922 image)
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[1:35] <red9> Parts: TFT-display, stepper/dc-motors, gears, tractorbands, sensors, mikrocontroller, connectors, etc.
[1:35] <red9> Also if you keep parts of it intact you can exploit the one-dimensional servo mechanism to build said CNC things.
[1:36] <red9> If you have an oscilliscope you can take the opportunity to document the correct signaling before detaching the stuff.
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[1:38] <red9> Plotter for inspiration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcNpABZoCMI
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[1:45] <Greg-J> Very cool. Thanks red9
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[1:54] <red9> Here's perhaps a better inspiration the HP 7475A because it got a very similat paper feeding mechanism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8OSEgzv508
[1:54] <red9> similar..
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[1:59] <red9> Don't forget the option of blu-laser onto PCB laminate to speed up making PCB real quick.
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[2:25] <Ellied> damn, no monitor mode support on the 3B+ integrated wifi yet
[2:26] <Ellied> was hoping for that with the new wifi hardware
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[2:47] <Voop> what is monitor mode
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[2:49] <red9> Quick guess: Passivly receiving all WiFi transmissions.
[2:50] <red9> Though spread spectrum might complicate matters.
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[3:12] <extor> Does anyone know if the sensors of this device are available for androids or for pis and whether any FOSS can do the image processing possibly? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGq8Bepaqj4
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[10:31] <andywww> Apologies if this has been asked before. I am currently using a HP proliant microserver as a standard sata, raid 5 nas and would like to understand why the evidence i’ve seen so far suggests the pi might not do a more power efficient job. The cpu/ram/usb3 connectivity theoretically should blitz the task
[10:31] <Lartza> andywww, USB3?
[10:31] <andywww> write speeds are not a concern, read is more important as it is a media server with 4k movies
[10:32] <Lartza> The RPi is USB2 and the bus is shared between the USB ports and ethernet
[10:32] <andywww> oh right
[10:32] <andywww> my apologies i thought it was 3
[10:32] <Lartza> So even with the gigabit in 3B+ it's limited to the USB2 speed
[10:32] <Lartza> And will compete with any USB I/O
[10:32] <andywww> i see
[10:33] <andywww> so the more disks connected, potentially the less efficient its going to be as raid then?
[10:33] <Lartza> You'll have around 320 megabits per second or so to play with, across all of USB
[10:33] <Lartza> minus ethernet
[10:33] <andywww> howcome its still usb2 is that a power consumption thing?
[10:34] <Lartza> Price? Dunno, there is really no need for it to be USB3
[10:34] <mlelstv> it's a "the SoC is basically the same over all generations" thing
[10:34] <Lartza> RPi isn't a NAS
[10:34] <Lartza> You want SATA in a NAS, not USB3 either way
[10:35] <andywww> no i know but you’re always going to get people experimenting with them aren’t you
[10:35] <mlelstv> you also want a faster CPU
[10:35] <Lartza> mlelstv, Why?
[10:35] <Habbie> my nas has a slower cpu
[10:35] <andywww> its a shame i was hoping i could save some space and save on a fan with knakered barings spinning all the time
[10:35] <Lartza> andywww, Yes, and you can even get ready made Nextcloud boxes that take an rpi but
[10:35] <mlelstv> my nas also has a slower CPU, but it cannot do gigabit ethernet either :)
[10:36] <Habbie> mlelstv, mine has no trouble filling a gigabit
[10:36] <Lartza> Well neither can the rpi :P
[10:36] <mlelstv> the point is: when you had faster network (Gigabit) and faster disks (SATA) then you also need the CPU to handle that.
[10:36] <Lartza> andywww, There is an upcoming ODROID device with 2 or 4 sata ports that might be more power efficient and smaller than your server, but it's not cheap either at like 130USD iirc
[10:36] <Lartza> Also has a small fan
[10:37] <Lartza> http://www.hardkernel.com/?b193
[10:38] <mlelstv> buy a NAS is probably cheaper :)
[10:38] <mlelstv> buying
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[10:38] <Lartza> Possibly, 100% depends on what you want to do with it
[10:39] * Lartza loves reading about people on IRC trying to run all sort of stuff on their Synologies and having trouble
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[10:39] <Lartza> It's a NAS, not a server :S
[10:39] <mlelstv> it's a server too. But apparently a small one :)
[10:39] <Habbie> that's not how synology sells it
[10:40] <Lartza> Weird OS that nobody seems to understand with packages that have no support upstream from the software makers :S
[10:40] <mlelstv> the medium sized synologys are atom based, aren't they?
[10:40] <Lartza> Is the biggest problem I think
[10:40] <Lartza> People just install a package of <insert software> then come to the upstream channel here on freenode with their troubles
[10:41] <Lartza> Habbie, "data sharing, multimedia streaming, and seamless storage management"
[10:41] <mlelstv> usually it's a problem of the software, not the packaging.
[10:41] <Lartza> That does not read server to me
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[10:41] <andywww> haha
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[10:41] <Lartza> Okay some advertise transcoding capability
[10:42] <mlelstv> ambitious
[10:42] <Lartza> 4k 10bit h265 transcoding too :P
[10:42] <mlelstv> still better than the old Pentium1-MMX server...
[10:42] <Lartza> Realtek RTD1296 1.4ghz quad core
[10:43] <Lartza> But apparently hardware support for 10bit h265 so fair enough I guess
[10:43] * mlelstv did transcoding on m68k... Takes a week for a few minutes.
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[10:44] <Lartza> That's optimistic for 10bit hevc :P
[10:44] <Lartza> I'm lucky my i7-3770k can decode HEVC
[10:45] <Lartza> And that's really only with the hacks Intel has put in
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[10:48] <andywww> Looking at this RockPro64 also
[10:48] <andywww> right well i’ve got some reading to do
[10:48] <andywww> Lartza: many thanks for the input
[10:49] <Lartza> I excel at rambling, no problem :)
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[11:17] <alkisg> Results: I was able to boot all the OSes I tried from /boot=SD and /=USB, but *only* if I'm using an initramfs. I guess some module is missing in the kernel, oh well.
[11:18] <alkisg> Boot messages show that the kernel discovers sda, but not sda1
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[11:24] <wallbroken> hi
[11:24] <wallbroken> i have an image file of an sd card
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[11:25] <wallbroken> it's 128 GB but it's only filled of 2 gb
[11:25] <wallbroken> how to fit the image size to contained data size?
[11:25] <alkisg> gparted is one way
[11:26] <wallbroken> i need to mount the image file?
[11:26] <alkisg> gparted path/to/image should do it, afaik
[11:26] <wallbroken> let me try
[11:26] <alkisg> Otherwise you could use losetup first
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[11:28] <wallbroken> alkisg, it sees only ext4 partition
[11:28] <alkisg> wallbroken: what's the output of this command? file /path/to/image
[11:28] <wallbroken> but in the image there is also a fat32 of bootloader
[11:29] <wallbroken> 13f50af79.img: DOS/MBR boot sector; partition 1 : ID=0x83, active, start-CHS (0x0,33,3), end-CHS (0x3fb,239,2), startsector 2048, 15554560 sectors
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[11:40] <mfa298> alkisg: being able to see the drive but not partitions seems unlikely to be a kernel module issue, more probable might be the drive hadn't spun up fully when it was looking for partitions.
[11:43] <wallbroken> alkisg, so?
[11:45] <ali1234> there is a delay option in config.txt for such situation
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[11:52] <alkisg> wallbroken: try: sudo losetup /dev/loop5 /path/to/image; sudo partprobe /dev/loop5; sudo gparted /dev/loop5
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[11:53] <alkisg> mfa298, ali1234 : this continues indefinitely, rootwait is in effect
[11:54] <alkisg> Even if I unplug and replug the USB disk, I immediately see sda discovered, but not the partitions, like I see with mmcblkcpX or after boot with sdaX
[11:56] <wallbroken> alkisg, input output error on gparted
[11:56] <wallbroken> during read /dev/loop5
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[12:01] <alkisg> mfa298, ali1234, I did this test: wait until rootwait=boot hang, plug external usb disk = discovers the device but not sdaX, plug usb *stick* = discovers sdaX. So I'm guessing some module for external usb disks?!
[12:01] <alkisg> I.e. it works with sticks but not with disks
[12:01] <ali1234> there is no difference
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[12:03] <mfa298> if it can see the disk it ought to be able to read the partition table, it seems very unlikely you can only see the drive and not partitions unless you're doing sometihng really whacky.
[12:03] <alkisg> wallbroken: what's the output of sudo fdisk -l /dev/loop5?
[12:03] <alkisg> mfa298: nah, using stock images and all, except for cmdline.txt and config.txt
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[12:03] <wallbroken> fdisk: cannot open /dev/loop5: Errore di input/output
[12:03] <alkisg> The initramfs properly sees and boots from this disk
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[12:03] <alkisg> wallbroken: did you run the losetup command successfully?
[12:04] <wallbroken> yes
[12:05] <alkisg> Sounds like something wrong with the image then, run losetup -d /dev/loop5 to stop the lo device...
[12:05] <ShorTie> to me, /dev/loop5 seems awfull high, might want to reboot and start over
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[12:06] <alkisg> You could try with loop6 too if you suspect something with loop5...
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[12:09] <wallbroken> alkisg, the only one that works is gparted imagefile.img
[12:09] <wallbroken> but it recognizes only one of the two partitions
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[12:10] <wallbroken> and looks like modifications are not allowed
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[12:11] <ShorTie> ya, you can't modify a imagefile.img directly like that
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[12:12] <ShorTie> there is a big long process you need to follow to shrink an image successfully
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[12:13] <wallbroken> ShorTie, and how to fit the size of the image to the data contained in?
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[12:15] <ShorTie> the data needs to be condensed down 1st
[12:15] <alkisg> mfa298, ali1234, I think this is the missing module, how can I check if it's compiled in or not? ums-cypress.ko
[12:16] * alkisg searches the kernel config...
[12:16] <ShorTie> the steeps are in Image_Shrinker.sh, if you looked at it
[12:17] <alkisg> In the initramfs'es it's present, e.g. ./lib/modules/4.10.0-1016-raspi2/kernel/drivers/usb/storage/ums-cypress.ko
[12:18] <ali1234> that's it then
[12:18] <alkisg> Would I have any chances if I asked for its inclusion to future kernels?
[12:18] <alkisg> (i.e. compiled in, so that I won't need an initramfs...)
[12:18] <alkisg> But I guess using an initramfs isn't that bad, oh well :)
[12:18] <ali1234> maybe. depends how big it is
[12:19] <alkisg> 10086
[12:19] <alkisg> 10k, not a lot...
[12:19] <ali1234> you should probably just use an initramfs. it is required to boot most distros anyway
[12:20] <alkisg> Raspbian and Ubuntu mate don't use one...
[12:20] <alkisg> Anyways, thank you guys, I'll use an initramfs :)
[12:21] <ShorTie> alkisg, ask over @ https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux
[12:21] <alkisg> ShorTie: cool, thank you
[12:22] <wallbroken> so, is there no other thing i can try?
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[12:22] <wallbroken> why if i write the image to the sd card
[12:22] <wallbroken> it works perfectly?
[12:22] <BurtyB> In Raspbian is there a way to auto rebuild the initramfs when it updates the kernel?
[12:22] <mfa298> alkisg: you could always build the kernel yourself and include that module.
[12:23] <alkisg> mfa298: sure, ty
[12:23] <ShorTie> wallbroken, you have a sdcard that the image fits on and works ??
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[12:23] <wallbroken> yes
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[12:23] <wallbroken> not here
[12:23] <ShorTie> and a smaller sdcard ??
[12:23] <wallbroken> but i have it at work
[12:23] <mfa298> alkisg: also without that module I would have thought it wouldn't even see the disk - it might see the usb device but not know much about what it is
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[12:24] <wallbroken> that is the sd card on where the system was created
[12:24] <ShorTie> then you could use rpi-clone to to transfer it
[12:24] <wallbroken> i want to know why i can mount from image file
[12:24] <alkisg> mfa298: yes I think that's what's happening, it sees a usb device but not a storage one
[12:25] <mfa298> alkisg: also 4.10 seems like an odd kernel version, raspian is still on 4.9 (and will probably jump to 4.14 at some point) - so asking for it on the rasbpain kernel won't help directly
[12:25] <alkisg> mfa298: I have raspbian's, libreelec's, old mate's, new mate's, 4.15... lots of kernels, all same symptoms
[12:26] <alkisg> I was testing with raspbian's, that 4.10 was just the initrd that I had handy in my pc disk to unzip and search for the module
[12:26] <alkisg> I.e. I didn't even use it for the tests
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[12:36] <revoltingPeasant> has anyone ever tried to cross compile qt for the pi, I'd appreciate any opinions on the easiest way to go about it. thanks
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[12:50] <alkisg> CONFIG_CYPRESS_FIRMWARE=m ==> that's the deal there, so I guess if I ever use a different USB disk it might work
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[12:52] <alkisg> Sorry, actually CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_CYPRESS_ATACB=m
[12:54] <wallbroken> is there some any other test i can do?
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[12:57] <ShorTie> test for what ??
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[13:05] <BurtyB> wallbroken, "kpartx -av /path/image.img" should create /dev/mapper/loopXpY for each partition which you can then mount, and after umount run "kpartx -d /dev/loopX" to remove the loop
[13:06] <wallbroken> BurtyB
[13:06] <wallbroken> read error, sector 0
[13:06] <wallbroken> read error, sector 1
[13:06] <wallbroken> read error, sector 29
[13:06] <wallbroken> read: Input/output error
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[13:09] <ShorTie> wallbroken, you doing this on a pc or a pi ??
[13:10] <wallbroken> pc
[13:10] <ShorTie> good, how much free disk space do you have
[13:10] <wallbroken> where?
[13:10] <ShorTie> on the pc
[13:11] <wallbroken> 200 gb
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[13:12] <ShorTie> ok, have you tried rebooting to erease all the loop devices
[13:12] <wallbroken> yes
[13:13] <ShorTie> did the image start off from a NOOBS install ??
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[13:14] <wallbroken> what is it NOOBS ?
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[13:15] <ShorTie> a way to get os's onto the pi
[13:16] <wallbroken> ShorTie: https://pastebin.com/raw/wNyaz780
[13:16] <wallbroken> thisisthe scriptthat was used to create the
[13:16] <wallbroken> OS
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[13:17] <ShorTie> that does not look like it's a pi
[13:18] <wallbroken> it's not an official image
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[14:20] <shiftplusone> What should it use instead?
[14:21] <IT_Sean> Sorry, thy ran out of unicorn magic at the factory. Had to use USB instead.
[14:22] <pwillard> Geez. Its generally good enough... why the fuss?
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[14:23] <alkisg> a usb3 controller with gigabit would be fine :P
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[14:24] <BurtyB> it can use SPI if you're happy with about 300kb/s :)
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[14:28] <IT_Sean> Hey, shiftplusone... Is e Pi rfc1149 complaint? :p
[14:29] <shiftplusone> heh
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[15:03] <Angs> Does anyone know any industry rated 4G modem for RPI? a link would be appreciated
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[15:14] <GrandWizardZippy> morning
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[15:22] <mlelstv> there are at least 4g modems with industry prices :)
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[15:36] <GrandWizardZippy> how goes it all
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[15:42] <NowhereMan> fine as frog hair
[15:42] <NowhereMan> u?
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[15:47] <ebarch> Angs: not sure if "industry rated", but https://hologram.io/ has been gaining market share
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[16:18] <IT_Sean> Angs: what industry, and what rating?
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[17:25] <GrandWizardZippy> i believe hes refering to something like UL rated
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[17:31] <Bitweasil> Woo, I have a 3B+ to play with. :D
[17:31] * MacGeek grabs it and runs away
[17:33] <Bitweasil> :p
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[17:33] <MacGeek> new issue of magpi about to come out, yay
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[17:34] <Bitweasil> I'm using a Pi3 as a light desktop, not sure if my case and such will work with the new 3B+, but I'll see.
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[17:35] <NowhereMan> what are you doing with that machines?
[17:35] <MacGeek> unless it's a case that makes particular assumptions about the height of components on the board you shouldn't have any issue
[17:35] <MacGeek> (one such case would be the flirc case and similar ones that have a pillar touching the SoC, and the chip on the 3B+ is a bit taller)
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[17:39] <Bitweasil> The PoE header.
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[17:41] <Bitweasil> That's pins in a new spot.
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[17:47] <MacGeek> I know, and that would be a problem with a case that makes particular assumptions about the height of components on the board, as previously stated
[17:47] <Bitweasil> Yup. The stacked acrylic cases do.
[17:47] <Bitweasil> Which is fine, the 3B+ is mostly to mess with.
[17:47] <Bitweasil> I was around a Micro Center and raided their stocks.
[17:47] <MacGeek> I have the oneninedesign case, which would have a problem as well
[17:47] <MacGeek> since it has that middle part that mostly covers the board
[17:48] <MacGeek> with cutouts for the chips, but no cutout for the new header
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[17:48] <Bitweasil> I mean, I can always just desolder the pins...
[17:48] <Tenkawa> heheh ours has them back in stock again so i hope to get one this week
[17:48] <MacGeek> or you can dremel out some acrylic
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[17:49] <Bitweasil> There's also the raised wireless RF shield by the GPIOs.
[17:50] <Bitweasil> It's enough different that I think anything but an open box will have trouble.
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[17:56] <Syliss> which case do you have now Bitweasil ?
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[17:58] <Bitweasil> Syliss: I have one of the "Moster" cases.
[17:58] <Bitweasil> It's a really nice 3B case with a large heatsink.
[17:58] <Bitweasil> Stacked acrylic.
[17:59] <Syliss> ah
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[18:03] <Bitweasil> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Raspberry-Pi-B-2-3-Model-B-Protective-Enclosure-Shell-Case-Moster-Heatsink-/232397908423
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[18:05] <Lartza> "Monster" heat sink, this is a monster heatsing :P https://noctua.at/media/catalog/product/cache/2/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/n/o/noctua_nh_u9b_se2_2.jpg
[18:05] <Lartza> *heatsink
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[18:20] <AaroniusLeonius> Anyone overclocked the Raspberry Pi 3 B+ yet?
[18:20] <Bitweasil> Given how hard the 3B is running stock, I'm not sure there would be much headroom on top of the 1.4GHz speeds...
[18:21] <AaroniusLeonius> Good point.
[18:23] <AaroniusLeonius> I’m interested to see how it performs with emulation honestly. In reality, it might not make much of a difference but if there’s a major improvement, I’ll probably get one
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[18:24] <Bitweasil> What are you doing with it?
[18:24] <Bitweasil> The major limit on the 3B without a properly huge heatsink is thermal throttling.
[18:24] <Bitweasil> And the 3B+ is, supposedly, a lot better about that.
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[18:24] <AaroniusLeonius> I’m using Retropie, I had to get a heat sink recently and a fan
[18:24] <Bitweasil> So, without heroic cooling, the 3B+ will outperform the 3B.
[18:25] <Bitweasil> With good cooling, the 3B+ should be slightly quicker. But the big deal is the 5GHz wireless, IMO.
[18:25] <AaroniusLeonius> Definitely
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[18:26] <Bitweasil> vcgencmd measure_clock arm
[18:26] <Bitweasil> ^
[18:26] <Bitweasil> Run that when loaded and see how hard you're throttling.
[18:26] <AaroniusLeonius> Thanks, that’s pretty helpful to know
[18:27] <Bitweasil> 1.2GHz is peak frequency, with a good heatsink it should sit up there.
[18:27] <Bitweasil> If you're dropping back below about 1GHz, you'll likely see a major improvement with either improved cooling or the 3B+.
[18:27] <Bitweasil> The 3B+ has that heat spreader and a heavier base layer in the board so it spreads heat out better.
[18:27] <Bitweasil> The thermal images of the two side by side are very different.
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[18:29] <AaroniusLeonius> I haven’t looked at thermal images. You got a link to them?
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[18:32] <Bitweasil> https://medium.com/@ghalfacree/benchmarking-the-raspberry-pi-3-b-plus-44122cf3d806
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[18:32] <AaroniusLeonius> Thank you
[18:33] <Bitweasil> It does a far better job of using the entire board for thermal mass and radiation.
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[18:35] <AaroniusLeonius> Wow
[18:37] <davr0s> ended up with 7 rpi's (2xpi2, 2xpi3, 3xpi0w).. should i even that up with a plain zero , given the OTG network option
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[18:37] <davr0s> damn these things are addictive
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[18:38] <AaroniusLeonius> They’re really fun
[18:38] <Bitweasil> Useful little boxes.
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[18:39] <davr0s> i've long had an itch for a multi-camera rig (environment, improvised mocap) so i sort of started to scratch that
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[18:41] <davr0s> i like having such small fanless computers to leave on
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[18:41] <MacGeek> yay
[18:41] <MacGeek> magpi 68
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[18:50] <shauno> davr0s, the 0W has all the otg options the plain zero has
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[18:50] <davr0s> shauno right, but a 'plain zero' is a bit cheaper; i'd feel i'm wasting less money :)
[18:51] <BurtyB> or get the W and invest in the option of wifi for a future project ;)
[18:51] <davr0s> in the applications I have in mind, in the camera setups I imagine them being at least paired up.. i've got enough which actually have wifi
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[18:52] <davr0s> BurtyB yeah I could tell myself that too, still I like trying to find niches for things
[18:52] <davr0s> pi0w demand would be higher than pi0, so finding a use for less-wanted pi0's ...
[18:54] <mfa298> davr0s: only 7 pi's many here have plenty more than that. I've probably got 7 running at the moment - and plenty more in boxes
[18:55] <BurtyB> davr0s, are there any stats on demand of 0 vs 0W?
[18:57] <davr0s> mfa298 hah ok . well I have seen the bigger clusters on youtube
[18:57] <davr0s> BurtyB i have no idea; I merely speculate
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[19:35] <repz_> Hi there! I'm new to RPI and googling for ohurs now. Is there an actual -stable- way to install android TV on a RPI 3B ?
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[19:44] <mete> android and stable, I don't think so :D
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[19:48] <Ellied> My sound isn't working at all. No HDMI, no headphone jack. I've got dtparam=audio=on in config.txt, snd_bcm2835 loaded, and have been messing with amixer cset numid=3 {0/1/2} and alsamixer; everything looks perfectly fine, it just doesn't work at all.
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[19:48] <Ellied> I get a soft hiss from the headphone jack all the time, but it never produces any sound.
[19:48] <Ellied> other than that, that is
[19:50] <darsie> Ellied: It worked after I set it in raspi-config to 3 mm jack
[19:50] <darsie> and rebooted
[19:52] <Ellied> wow alright, I just launched mocp and it showed the volume all the way down (I *just* set it to 100% through alsamixer) and after I raised it, it started working
[19:52] <Ellied> god this is irritating
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[19:53] <Ellied> I have this problem every time I set up a new Pi, and can never remember how I fixed it last time, and I guess that's because there's nothing *to* remember
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[19:56] <GrandWizardZippy> whats the best means for netflix on a pi?
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[19:57] <mal_will> #raspberrypi
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[20:04] <darsie> I had to turn volume to max to increase SNR.
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[20:51] <lettuceleaf> Hello I have a raspberry pi 2 model B running Arch Linux 4.14.30-1-ARCH ARMv7, I have /lib/modules/... folders for 4.14.30-1-ARCH and 4.15.13-1-ARCH. However, I am missing the build folder that should be in the 4.14... folder. There is a build folder for the 4.15... folder. Is there any way to get the build folder for 4.14? and if not, how can I get my rpi to use linux-armv7-headers 4.15.13-1 instead of linux-raspberrypi 4.
[20:52] <lettuceleaf> I am trying to build a simple "hello world" loadable kernel module
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[20:55] <pksato> lettuceleaf: I don't know Arch Linux, but, check if have kernel header package.
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[21:21] <repz_> Why android and stable aren't compatible ? :D There isn't any android ARM devices around there ? :/
[21:22] <AaroniusLeonius> Most android devices are ARM based
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[21:23] <repz_> Yep so why mete said android and stable not possible ? :/ mem maybe
[21:24] <repz_> Btw, there is no android tv solution 100% working for our lovely raspberry atm ?
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[21:24] <AaroniusLeonius> I’m guessing for a stable android build on the raspberry pi, it would require more work
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[21:25] <Habbie> i'm not even aware of a working android non-tv build
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[21:26] <AaroniusLeonius> It exists but it’s closed source
[21:26] <Habbie> AaroniusLeonius, url?
[21:26] <Habbie> AaroniusLeonius, if you happen to know
[21:27] <Habbie> oh RTAndroid
[21:27] <Habbie> i'm not sure i tried that one
[21:27] <Habbie> around the time i looked at it i did try a chromeos build for pi
[21:27] <Habbie> which was just bad
[21:27] <AaroniusLeonius> ChromeOS wasn’t that great to begin with imo. It’s just a web browser for the most part
[21:28] <Habbie> oh i like chromeos a lot
[21:28] <Habbie> it works very well on the chromebooks
[21:28] <Habbie> a pi with chromeos sitting in the corner would be a fine guest workstation
[21:28] <Habbie> if it worked well
[21:28] <AaroniusLeonius> I agree
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[21:30] <Bitweasil> <3 ChromeOS.
[21:30] <Bitweasil> It's a /secure/ web browsing platform.
[21:30] <Habbie> it is
[21:30] <Habbie> amazingly so
[21:30] <Bitweasil> Though much of that isn't available on the Pi because it doesn't have things like a TPM.
[21:30] <AaroniusLeonius> Habbie: RT Android was changed to emteria btw
[21:30] <Bitweasil> So the signed boot path is... eh. Not amazing.
[21:30] <Habbie> Bitweasil, sure
[21:31] <Bitweasil> Also I expect it won't like slow micro SD cards very well.
[21:31] <Habbie> AaroniusLeonius, ah
[21:31] <Bitweasil> Or the lack of RAM.
[21:31] <Habbie> plenty of chromebooks with 1gb out there
[21:31] <AaroniusLeonius> You can get a shell by enabling developer mode too
[21:31] <Habbie> well yes
[21:31] <Habbie> but then you loose the security benefits
[21:32] <Habbie> and with android app support and termux, the need is thinning
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[21:33] <AaroniusLeonius> But I don’t think you have root if you do it like that
[21:33] <AaroniusLeonius> Unless I’m wrong
[21:33] <Habbie> termux won't give you root, no
[21:33] <Habbie> why?
[21:33] <Habbie> i did read something about containers coming to chromeos
[21:33] <Habbie> docker-like, but based on lxd
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[21:33] <GrandWizardZippy> lxc is pretty legit
[21:35] <AaroniusLeonius> I would personally prefer to use openbox on my school chromebook
[21:36] <AaroniusLeonius> But root is required for that
[21:36] <Habbie> right
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[21:36] <Habbie> uhm
[21:36] <Habbie> on 'linux' you do not need root for that
[21:36] <Habbie> but it's possible chromeos limits you in some other way for doing that
[21:36] <repz_> So atm there is nothing which can replace an android TV for RPI ? :(
[21:36] <repz_> I had some hope in this
[21:36] <Habbie> repz_, that's a different question
[21:36] <Habbie> repz_, what problem are you trying to solve?
[21:37] <AaroniusLeonius> If you want a media center, OSMC.
[21:37] <repz_> not really having issue, i'm really new to RPI world
[21:37] <repz_> But I'd like to: Use plex, get french tv channels (molotov does it and have an android apk)
[21:37] <repz_> why not adding youtube netflix and some fancy media channels in it
[21:37] <repz_> that's it
[21:37] <AaroniusLeonius> You can use Plex on OSMC
[21:38] <repz_> Yup I see plex is ported a lot even in kodi
[21:38] <repz_> but the main issue is french tv channels
[21:38] <AaroniusLeonius> I know that’s possible but I don’t have experience with using tv channels with Kodi
[21:39] <repz_> hmm
[21:40] <repz_> does kodi can act like a chromecast ?
[21:40] <repz_> "Cast to ...."
[21:40] <AaroniusLeonius> You can use AirPlay
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[21:40] <Habbie> there is molotov for osmc/kodi
[21:40] <Habbie> according to these french google results
[21:41] <repz_> Everyone ending to say they can't achieve to make it works
[21:41] <repz_> I also saw some results but people seems to struggle
[21:41] <Habbie> oh :<
[21:41] <repz_> That's why I wondered if there was someething 'OOB'
[21:41] <repz_> instead of trying almost everything on my side :)
[21:41] <repz_> in a more or less legal way ...
[21:42] <AaroniusLeonius> Looks like there’s some useful information here https://www.reddit.com/r/france/comments/4tk7q4/using_kodi_to_watch_french_tv_abroad/?st=JFBHY0DG&sh=fa2297cf
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[21:45] <repz_> lot of people reporting there are replay but not sure about live
[21:45] <repz_> I'm afraid taht it might works but not 100% sure and i'll need to maintain this :D
[21:45] <repz_> Wil ltake a look anyway
[21:45] <repz_> ty :)
[21:45] <repz_> does kodi have airplay ?
[21:45] <AaroniusLeonius> I think so
[21:46] <AaroniusLeonius> I know OSMC does
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[21:46] <AaroniusLeonius> Which is based on Kodi
[21:46] <repz_> alright so OSMC > Kodi (theoricaly) ?
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[21:46] <AaroniusLeonius> Depends
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[21:47] <AaroniusLeonius> For the most part, OSMC is easier to work with than other Kodi raspberry pi images
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[21:47] <AaroniusLeonius> Because all the other ones have a read only file system
[21:47] <repz_> alright, i will backup / scratch my raspberry multiple times i guess :)
[21:47] <repz_> oh ok
[21:48] <repz_> thanks for the infos ;)
[21:49] <AaroniusLeonius> And it’s the one of the easiest ways to get a Kodi 18 install on the pi without compiling and the Netflix and YouTube plugins require it
[21:49] <AaroniusLeonius> No problem 👍
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[21:50] <repz_> thought someone would have hacked these toys deeper :p
[21:50] <repz_> but it's already nice :)
[21:50] <repz_> compiling shouldn't be a big deal but i don't really have time to play with it more than that
[21:50] <AaroniusLeonius> I’m guessing Android isn’t important to most people who use the pi
[21:50] <repz_> i originaly purchased it to port some docker images to ARM
[21:51] <AaroniusLeonius> Kodi is insanely difficult to compile though. I’ve tried
[21:51] <repz_> I do trust you, i'll not dig my hole :)
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[21:52] <AaroniusLeonius> Well if you ever decide to compile it anyway, you might get further than me
[21:52] <Thedarkb> Is there any monochrome LCD I can use with the pi graphically?
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[21:53] <AaroniusLeonius> I believe so, I’ll look around
[21:53] <repz_> might but i'd like to avoid, I prefer enjoying the use of it more than working on :D
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[21:54] <AaroniusLeonius> Thedarkb https://www.adafruit.com/product/938
[21:54] <AaroniusLeonius> (I’m new to irc so I don’t know how to mention people
[21:54] <AaroniusLeonius> )
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[21:54] <Thedarkb> AaroniusLeonius, You did just fine.
[21:55] <Thedarkb> tab autocompletes names.
[21:55] <Thedarkb> Thanks for the link.
[21:55] <AaroniusLeonius> Ah, thanks. Guess it worked
[21:55] <AaroniusLeonius> No problem
[21:57] <Thedarkb> AaroniusLeonius, You only need to type the first few letters of a name and you can hit tab to autocomplete them.
[21:58] <AaroniusLeonius> That’s handy, thanks
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[21:58] <Thedarkb> I can't think of a client written in the last 25 years that doesn't have this.
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[22:04] <AaroniusLeonius> Well now I’m going to be trying to use tab completion typing school essays even more
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[22:06] <alkisg> Yeah it's pretty annoy<tab> when you are trying to wri<tab> something and it doesn't autocom<tab>...
[22:06] <AaroniusLeonius> Just like my school essays
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[22:19] <davr0s> damn i need a KVM
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[22:24] <brimstone> is there a better channel for hypriot specific question?
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[23:28] <Tenkawa> Any luck?
[23:29] <Tenkawa> oops wrong chan
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[23:50] <AaroniusLeonius> Anyone who uses the pidrive been having problems with power consumption with the drive plugged in?
[23:50] <AaroniusLeonius> It’s using a lot of it
[23:50] <AaroniusLeonius> Raspberry pi can’t get the power it needs
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