#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2018-03-30

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[3:46] <john_rambo> I want KODI to autostart at every login ...Using Raspbian ...Any ideas ?
[3:48] <Voop> install openelec
[3:49] <davr0s> question: So i gather in 'flops/$' terms, an RPi wont be so good- you're really paying for the fact it's a complete system (ports etc)
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[3:49] <davr0s> ... but of the R-Pi clones , do any offer a higher 'flops/$'
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[3:55] <myself> the broader you cast the "clones" net, the more answers you'll get
[3:57] <davr0s> lets say we restrict that to the same formfactor: same physical size, USB ports, network port, GPIO, HDMI out
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[3:57] <Voop> the answer is yes
[3:57] <Voop> but they lack support
[3:58] <myself> https://www.cnx-software.com/2017/12/04/top-5-most-powerful-arm-sbcs-development-boards-in-2017-early-2018/
[3:58] <davr0s> (in asking this question - I'm well aware that for most R-Pi use cases, paying for the fact it's a minature system means you are getting great value for money etc)
[3:58] <davr0s> yeah i'm aware of the jetson stuff from nvidia: I'm excluding those
[3:58] <myself> Oh, whoops, none of those are raspberry-shaped
[3:58] <myself> one looked like it might be but nope
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[3:59] <davr0s> a contender I know of is the asus tinkerboard
[3:59] <Voop> theres orangepi
[3:59] <Voop> and i think bananapi
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[4:00] <Voop> just google <$fruit>pi
[4:00] <davr0s> what i've got to check: i'm aware they're <more flops>, but the real question is <flops per $>
[4:01] <davr0s> that could be cpu or gpu really.. gpu compute
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[4:02] <myself> http://linuxgizmos.com/category/boards/ is the list I was thinking of, but there's not like a sortable table
[4:02] <davr0s> i should flesh out my rpi plans before collecting more
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[4:09] <davr0s> i guess when it comes to enhancing what you can do in an arm-sbc robot, the movidius might be a better bet than a 'bigger gpu' (its actually designed for vision)
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[4:24] <Ellied> guh, wow, I did not realize the extent to which RPi3B cases are incompatible with RPi3B+ boards
[4:24] <Ellied> everything's in a different place, nothing fits except the major connectors
[4:25] <Ellied> it's not just the POE header that gets in the way either
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[4:39] <Voop> Ellied: what else gets in the way?
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[4:42] <NowhereMan> welll, you need to make a case model and post it on thingiverse
[4:45] <NowhereMan> shame they changed the 3 so much that old cases won't work....
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[6:06] <en1gma> im about ready to switch from raspbian lite to a full U.I. need to use the pi3 for watching movies over hdmi. will be doing some rtlsdr radio stuff like gqrx too
[6:06] <en1gma> which full desktop is the best for not being sluggish
[6:06] <en1gma> kali, ubuntu mate or raspbian?
[6:08] <red9> en1gma, VT100
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[6:08] <en1gma> whats VT100?
[6:09] <en1gma> googling
[6:09] <en1gma> lol
[6:11] <red9> GUI means graphics, which means it will be sluggish, always.
[6:12] <red9> Only really modern PC's with proper memory size and speed as well as fast CPU's are able to handle it in any acceptable way. The Pi while it can-do is not really powered enough to deal with this.
[6:12] <en1gma> isnt some desktops lighter weight or more optimized then others?
[6:12] <red9> sure
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[6:13] <en1gma> i really need to get my note 3 working over hdmi or get google chrome hdmi thing as the phone is pretty fast
[6:13] <en1gma> i think it has 3GB ram too
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[6:15] <en1gma> i think i gonna just do raspbian desktop as its pretty stable
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[6:20] <red9> x.org + fvwm2 is quite light weight.
[6:23] <en1gma> too late :) installing raspbian desktop to sdcard as we speak. thanks though
[6:23] <red9> If you want stability. The BSD route is probably want you want.
[6:24] <en1gma> BSD on pi3?
[6:24] <en1gma> wow. should have known
[6:24] <en1gma> does everything have to be built or is there a base image?
[6:25] <en1gma> bsd dont have a gui does it?
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[6:26] <en1gma> reading on it now
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[6:28] <red9> en1gma, A OS like FreeBSD had a GUI for 23 years. So..
[6:32] <red9> https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/releases/ISO-IMAGES/11.1/FreeBSD-11.1-RELEASE-arm-armv6-RPI-B.img.xz
[6:32] <red9> https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/releases/ISO-IMAGES/11.1/FreeBSD-11.1-RELEASE-arm-armv6-RPI2.img.xz
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[8:24] <bari> hi, any rasbian kernel or firmware dir specialist? :D
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[8:49] <purplex88> i just got a camera for pi
[8:49] <purplex88> after i plug it into pi 3
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[8:49] <purplex88> how can i see a picture?
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[8:58] <StCyr> purplex88: I guess you need to use something like video4linux (probably via ffmpeg or gstreamer)
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[8:58] <purplex88> to record or just see my face on screen?
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[8:59] <purplex88> i want to just see face but "stream" sounds like record
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[9:01] <StCyr> purplex88: at least for the images. for the sound I have no idea
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[9:02] <purplex88> i don't want sound or capture an image man..
[9:02] <purplex88> just test if camera works otherwise i will return it
[9:03] <purplex88> theres no indication if my camera is plugged or not or whatsoever
[9:04] <ShorTie> rpi-webcam
[9:06] <ShorTie> https://github.com/silvanmelchior/RPi_Cam_Web_Interface.git
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[9:10] <purplex88> checking it.
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[9:22] <purplex88> its installing a ton of stuff
[9:22] <purplex88> get: 27
[9:23] <purplex88> in windows it used to be simple install and run
[9:23] <purplex88> just wondering, aren't software on raspbian simply download .exe and install?
[9:24] <purplex88> instead of using command lines
[9:24] <ShorTie> linuxhas no .exe
[9:24] <ShorTie> linux has no .exe
[9:24] <purplex88> or some executable whatever it is
[9:25] <xacktm> there are packages with precompiled executables, yeah
[9:25] <purplex88> you mean nothing similar to .exe to launch a program?
[9:25] <xacktm> but command line is the most bare interface to get the packages
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[9:26] <xacktm> you can launch an installed executable which you extract from a package, yes
[9:26] <purplex88> it is always via command lines?
[9:26] <xacktm> there's GUI interfaces to apt
[9:27] <xacktm> don't know them off the top of my head though
[9:27] <xacktm> but at its core the interface is apt
[9:27] <xacktm> the interface is a wrapper around apt*
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[9:29] <ShorTie> all 'packages' are precompiled executables
[9:29] <xacktm> you also have to worry about static vs dynamic linking - dll hell in windows
[9:29] <xacktm> well, I'd say packages include executables as well as supporting data
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[9:30] <xacktm> apt takes care of the linking for the most part :)
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[9:32] <ShorTie> apt takes care of dependancies, wouldn't call it linking
[9:33] <xacktm> dependencies in the form of .so files, are what I'd call dynamic linking tho
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[9:34] <xacktm> sure there may be other dependencies that aren't .so files
[9:34] <purplex88> ShorTie: install done, how do i start it?
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[9:35] <ShorTie> https://elinux.org/RPi-Cam-Web-Interface
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[9:40] <purplex88> nothing shows
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[10:03] <zproc> hey
[10:04] <zproc> "raspberry pi raspbian kernel panic not syncing vfs unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)" -> brand new sd card, Raspbian installed very recently, any idea? Besides an fsct.ext4 i already did? I'm gonna check the cmdline.txt
[10:04] <zproc> Oops, not exactly the copy/paste i wanted to do of the error, but you get it
[10:04] <zproc> *fsck.ext4
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[10:16] <zproc> Okay, that was THE SILLIEST THING ever... i don't know why, the "rootwait" got by itself on a new line, didn't noticed it as i thought it was a line wrap
[10:17] <zproc> *notice
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[10:56] <sloth> does the rpi0w have hdmi 2 or 1.4?
[10:56] <sloth> i wanna know if i can use it to stream 4k60
[10:57] <Lartza> sloth, It's not like you could do that if it had HDMI 9000 really
[10:58] <sloth> well hdmi 2 makes a difference because it supports 4k60
[10:58] <sloth> whereas 1.4 does not
[10:58] <Lartza> But the Pi doesn't have the power to do 4k at any framerate...
[10:58] <Lartza> In any case it's HDMI 1.3
[10:59] <Lartza> you can get 4k out at 15fps or so
[10:59] <Lartza> Apparently
[10:59] <Lartza> That's the best the PROCESSOR can do, the cable is irrelevant if the device itself is too unpowered
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[11:58] <gordonDrogon> happy hot cross bun day.
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[12:07] <rhagu> hi everyone, I am generating a sine wave to create varying pressure inside a chamber with a loud speaker (national instruments equipment). I read that the audio output of raspberry uses pwm. Is there a way to create a single sine wave (determined frequency and amplitude) with a raspberry without the audio outlet? If so what would be the best way?
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[12:11] <rhagu> Oh about the boundary conditions: I want to create sine waves with f= 50Hz to 500Hz and amplitudes from -10V to 10V
[12:12] <gordonDrogon> rhagu, get a usb sound card and hook it to an appropriate amplifier.
[12:12] <gordonDrogon> however the pwm output may well be good enough - do check on a 'scope first before you spend any more money.
[12:13] <gordonDrogon> it's already been filtered and shaped a little - it's not raw digital.
[12:13] <Habbie> it won't be 10V though?
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[12:14] <rhagu> I have an amplifier I can use, 10V is just the output of the NI stuff and I would have liked to continue my measurements without much change
[12:15] <rhagu> I know how pwm is used to create a sine wave and I am not sure whether it may distort my measurements or not. I like the usb solution though
[12:15] <rhagu> any advice which one may be good?
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[14:52] <realies> so, after the cirrus logic audio card got discontinued, is there anything exciting as it for audio recording and playback?
[14:52] <realies> via a hat
[14:52] <realies> have seen the audioinjector, but it doesnt have SPDIF
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[15:10] <r3> can a digital computer create a true sine wave, or aren't they all made up of a series of complex square waves? And if that's the case, PWM is going to be just as good as a sound card? Or am I thinking of something else entirely and have the wrong notion.
[15:11] <BCMM> r3: you can totally generate a sine wave from a digital signal, with an appropriate DAC
[15:11] <BCMM> whether a machine with a DAC counts as a purely "digital computer" is a matter of semantics, i guess
[15:11] <r3> ok then, I was thinking of something else
[15:11] <r3> thanks BCMM
[15:11] <BCMM> there's a good video by xiphmontey on this topic somewhere
[15:11] <BCMM> i mean, on the topic of "isn't a digital waveform just a staircase"
[15:12] <r3> yeah, you're right I think, but then again I wonder if the DAC is really a sine wave or - again - a series of square waves
[15:12] <BCMM> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIQ9IXSUzuM
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[15:12] <BCMM> r3: it's a bit long, but the whole thing is fascinating
[15:12] <mfa298> realies: there are a range of different audio hats you can get, with differing outputs and quality
[15:12] <realies> mfa298, show me one with analogue and digital inputs
[15:13] <BCMM> r3: and it has practical demos of feeding sound card output in to a real analogue oscilloscope to prove the point
[15:13] <realies> (for audio)
[15:13] <r3> ok, BCMM: I will watch it now
[15:14] <BCMM> imho everybody who is even a little bit geeky and interested in audio should see the whole series
[15:15] <mfa298> realies: I've not looked at them for a while so cant tell you what ones might do what you want and I don't plan spending hours googling on your behalf.
[15:16] <mfa298> I stopped looking at audio hats when I decided they'r all to expensive for the limited use they'll get
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[15:18] <realies> mfa298, well thanks for stating something which is not useful at all
[15:18] <realies> there isn't anything for capturing digital and analogue audio according to my research
[15:18] <realies> there's only the audioinjector that is somehow ugly
[15:18] <realies> and does only analogue
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[15:26] <Tenkawa> hi all
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[15:41] <r3> BCMM: Interesting, thanks for the link, I got my thniking backwards, as I had suspected, as it is square waves that are the sum of sine waves - overall there is a lot of information in the video, but I find the host to be a tad annoying
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[16:38] <en1gma> does anyone use rtlsdr with an sdr gui app on pi3?
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[16:50] <Owner> HELO
[16:50] <Owner> which distros work on 3b+ so far?
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[16:55] <gordonDrogon> Owner, Raspbian.
[17:01] <mfa298> en1gma: I think some people have tried various sdr apps, I did try gnuradio on a Pi2 a couple of years ago but that was a bit slow for anything interesting.
[17:01] <mfa298> en1gma: I think there are also some command line tools if you don't need all the gui bits
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[17:06] <Owner> gordonDrogon: 0k thx
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[17:09] <Szczot3k> Hi guys, how can I set static ip in raspbian stretch? /etc/network/interfaces seems to be ignored (also - I'm trying to setup dhcp server on raspi, that's why I won't set it up in dhcpcd)
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[17:13] <mfa298> Szczot3k: normally you would put some settings in /etc/dhcpcd.conf for a static IP.
[17:14] <mfa298> although if you're making the Pi a DHCP server then it might be better to remove the dhcpcd5 package and configure via the old way
[17:15] <Szczot3k> I purged the dhcpcd5 package
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[17:15] <mfa298> with stretch (and maybe jessie) you can put the config into /etc/network/interfaces.d/ with a file per interface (can make automation easier)
[17:16] <Szczot3k> Just make a file in the /etc/network/interfaces.d/ with "iface eth0 (...)"?
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[17:17] <gordonDrogon> Owner, there is no reason most other distros should not work on the 3+ .. with the proviso that the take the foundation kernel and bootloader. Those that do - win; those that don't are on their own.
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[17:20] <Szczot3k> mfa298, it doesn't work on boot - but if I do "ifdown eth0, ifup eth0" manually it works
[17:20] <mfa298> Szczot3k: I've got a file in there (called eth0) with the standard 'auto eth0' 'iface eth0 inet static' ...
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[17:21] <mfa298> Szczot3k: do you have the auto eth0 or allow hotplug eth0 statement (might not be quiet the right syntax)
[17:21] <Szczot3k> yeah, I forgot abou 'auto eth0', thanks for your help
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[17:43] <en1gma> is this what ubuntu mate looks like when the img has been wrote to sdcard? https://imgur.com/a/nqa0s
[17:44] <en1gma> i usually see boot and root with raspbian
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[17:46] <shauno> the volume labels affect nothing, so that looks about right. you can name the two partitions fred & brian if you like, it's the content that matters
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[18:53] <en1gma> what is the deal with ubuntu mate desltop 16.04.2? it wont let me update as /boot dont have enough space.
[18:54] <en1gma> i formatted sdcard 2x now and installed ubuntu mate 2x. same damn thing
[18:54] <en1gma> do i need to have the sdcard mounted or not when i give this "command" 'sudo ddrescue -D --force ubuntu-mate-16.04.2-desktop-armhf-raspberry-pi.img /dev/mmcblk0"
[18:54] <en1gma> ive been doing it with it unmounted so far
[18:58] <en1gma> i trying it one more time
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[19:01] <larsks> en1gma: if you are writing directly to a device like that it should not be mounted.
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[19:22] <akk> Is there a part that has a banana plug for a multimeter on one end, and a small pin that can plug into a breadboard on the other?
[19:22] <akk> If so, what is it called? I tried searching for multimeter pin probes but those are all long probes, not meant for just plugging into a breadboard.
[19:23] * akk tired of juggling alligator clips and bare wires for something I need all the time
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[19:33] <BurtyB> akk, buy a couple of banana plugs and make one?
[19:34] <akk> BurtyB: That's what I'll do if I can't find anything.
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[19:34] <en1gma> larsks yea thats what i thought too. i am now trying to use apt-get instead of ubuntu software updater
[19:34] <en1gma> its dloading all the files now. hasnt started to install yet
[19:35] <ShorTie> i use a multimeter lead the probe has fallen off of, and replace it with a pin
[19:37] <mfa298> crocodile clips are useful as well for multimeter probes, you can then clip them onto a piece of wire from the breadboard (just be careful about shorts)
[19:37] <ShorTie> you can always just use a aligator jumper wire from probe/pin to header
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[19:38] <ShorTie> doulbe header connectors are easy to find, then just pin thru the wore too...
[19:38] <ShorTie> s/wore/wire/
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[19:46] <maarhart`> how can I make a backup (or a disk image) of my SD card?
[19:49] <red9> sudo bash
[19:49] <red9> tar -cvpf - / | bzip2 -9z > backup_file.tar.bz2
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[19:55] <maarhart`> red9: can I run that after booting from the SD?
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[19:58] <red9> yes
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[19:59] <red9> another approach: nc -l 8000 > backup_file.tar.bz2
[19:59] <red9> tar -cpf - / | bzip2 -9z | nc 1.2.3.4 8000
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[20:00] <akk> I ended up doing what mfa298 said, ordering some alligator clip probes. I can put pins or bare wires in the clips.
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[20:00] <akk> It still seems weird this isn't a standard part ... I would think it would be something lots of people needed.
[20:01] <akk> Are breadboards a thing only dilettantes/amateurs use, and pros don't need them?
[20:02] <mfa298> akk: the other option is buying some banana plugs and makign up your own things with a more suitable wire
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[20:03] <akk> mfa298: I looked into that first, but it was going to cost 10x more to do it that way because banana plugs tended to come in packs of large quantities.
[20:03] <mfa298> dependign on what you're doing breadboard can be more trouble than it's worth.
[20:03] <red9> akk, Pro's use whatever solves the task easier/faster/cheaper..
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[20:04] <mfa298> a few people I know who do electronics as part of the job design a board and get it fabbed and then populate it. But then they want specialised components that aren't breadboard capbable and tend to care about impedances and matched differential pairs
[20:04] <red9> Which means that for GHz RF breadbord might not do it. For sub MHz microcontrollers its no problem.
[20:05] <red9> Let's not underestimate the simulation tools these days that are immensly powerful.
[20:05] <mfa298> how many sub MHz uCs are there, my ATMegas all have 8MHz or faster crystals on them and most other uCs are mcuh faster than that
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[20:07] <red9> mfa298, But those crystals are usually on a PCB directly attached to the chip. While the GPIO ports are quite slow.
[20:07] <red9> (used slowly that is)
[20:07] <red9> A lot of modern tech springs from this DARPA project: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VLSI_Project
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[20:13] <gordonDrogon> I often do stuff on breadboards before committing to pcb. currently working on a project with a 20Mhz �controller and 14Mhz CPU.
[20:14] <gordonDrogon> saw some stuff recently with a chap doing 25Mhz (and a bit more I think) stuff on breadboards.
[20:14] <gordonDrogon> a vga video controller..
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[20:18] <red9> That VLSI project in the pre 1980 generated BSD Unix, RISC/MIPS CPU, 32-bit CPUs, graphic workstations, breaking the 100 000 transistor barrier, SUN microsystems, SGI computers, multichip wafer, parallell processor graphics etc.
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[20:19] <red9> If anyone ever heard about these things ;-)
[20:19] <red9> gordonDrogon, Yeah somewhere at 20 MHz things starts to get tricky in regards to signal integrity etc.
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[20:21] <red9> That is one thing that is great about the Pi's. You can make use of GHz, GB, multilayer CPU with Unix. While exploiting the same in a breadboard environment.
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[20:21] <mfa298> i suspect some things will break at much lower speeds as well on breadboard. others might make use of all the bad things in breadboard to help them work
[20:22] <red9> Sub 10 MHz should be fairly safe on a breadboard.
[20:23] <gordonDrogon> yea, it's easy to go "sub optimal" quickly on them.
[20:24] <gordonDrogon> but chips like atmega where you connect a can oscillator right into them at 8-20Mhz are generally fine.
[20:24] <red9> If you want to smash some time critical stuff. Try ECL circuits in the GHz domain. Then you can count signals that indeed are fast.
[20:24] <gordonDrogon> it's subsequently routing that clock when it gets "iffy" ...
[20:25] <gordonDrogon> it starts to get more plumbing and less wiring at higher speeds... (I worked a while back with a wireless comms company - 60Ghz carriers)
[20:25] <mfa298> if you get the atmega + crystal right on breadboard you might fidn the capacitance between tracks removed the need for caps on the xtal
[20:26] <red9> For those frequencies one ought to build the circuits in 3D more or less.
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[20:27] <mfa298> multi GHz, that's definetly into the blackmagic territory.
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[20:28] <gordonDrogon> mfa298, always used a can oscillator - call me lazy :)
[20:29] <red9> gordonDrogon, You don't happen to know where one can buy these THz transistors that supposedly exists since a few years back?
[20:29] <gordonDrogon> no idea...
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[20:31] <GraysonBriggs> could two separately running Python programs both use the GPIO pins if they are different pins?
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[20:33] <GraysonBriggs> using the .GPIO lib
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[20:34] <gordonDrogon> GraysonBriggs, there is no hardware issues - it's all down to software and I know nothing about Python.
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[20:34] <GraysonBriggs> gordonDrogon: ok, thank you
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[20:35] <inc0gn1t0> How come I can't use my pi3 image on pi3 B+? I thought they were the same except minor differences like heat dispersion
[20:35] <gordonDrogon> inc0gn1t0, you'll need to make sure it's up to date - latest bootloader & kernel.
[20:35] <inc0gn1t0> Ah ok
[20:35] <red9> What's the minimum version?
[20:35] <gordonDrogon> the differences are not just heat - different usb hub+ethernet, different wi-fi + bt...
[20:36] <gordonDrogon> the current version is the minimum one ... (I guess)
[20:36] <inc0gn1t0> gordonDrogon: I know tgose differences too. I said minor differences like.. And gave one example😜
[20:36] <gordonDrogon> if you just apt-get update/upgrade, you ought to be ok.
[20:36] <inc0gn1t0> *those
[20:37] <inc0gn1t0> It won't boot though. Just show a rainbow colored blurry screen
[20:37] <inc0gn1t0> So I can't apt-get update
[20:37] <gordonDrogon> did you do the updates?
[20:37] <gordonDrogon> put it back in the b3 and do the updates.
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[20:38] <inc0gn1t0> Of course. Dub. Why didn't I think of that lol
[20:38] <inc0gn1t0> *duh
[20:38] <inc0gn1t0> Thank u
[20:38] <mfa298> I think you need the latest bootcode.bin for the new PMIC on the 3B+, otherwise that's not setup properly so the Pi3B+ won't boot
[20:38] <red9> Regards to the GPIO from multiple programs. It might be a problem if the I/O operations are not atomic operation. Such that process 1 reads current state, changes it and then process 2 write what that read before process 1 altered the state.
[20:38] <gordonDrogon> red9, setting a gpio pin is a bit-write operation, not a read/modify/write.
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[20:39] <gordonDrogon> there are 2 registers - one to set bits, one to clear bits.
[20:39] <gordonDrogon> so to clear a bit you write 1 into the bit position in the clear-bit register.
[20:39] <red9> Ah.. that why it uses these convoluted ResetBits() and SetBits() in STM32..
[20:40] <gordonDrogon> no idea about stm32, but the ARM until recently didn't have atomic instructions from what I gather.
[20:40] <gordonDrogon> so that may explain the weird gpio hardware.
[20:40] <gordonDrogon> or at least different.
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[20:40] <red9> To read current state is straight forward ?
[20:40] <stiv> 'innovative'?
[20:41] <gordonDrogon> read - yes, just a single 32-bit read of a different register.
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[20:41] <red9> I did some direct GPIO manipulation via GDB. The weirdness became obvious.
[20:41] <gordonDrogon> actually, setting modes might be trickier - I think you do a read/modify/write for them.
[20:42] <red9> mode ie input or output?
[20:42] <red9> (and open drain, analog etc..)
[20:42] <gordonDrogon> in/out or one of the other 5 ALT modes - 3 bits per pin.
[20:42] <red9> It matches what I recall from the experiment.
[20:43] <gordonDrogon> and setting the pull up/downs is weird too - you need to 'clock' them in.
[20:43] <red9> doh..
[20:43] <red9> How do you clock them?
[20:43] <gordonDrogon> read the broadcom ARM peripherals manual or see the wiringPi sources because off the top of my head I don't recall. it's been 6 years since I wrote that code..
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[20:44] <gordonDrogon> anyway right now, it's bakery time. back later.
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[22:00] <n-st> hi :)
[22:01] <n-st> i'm looking for a sbc to serve as a vpn endpoint, so i'm curious about cpu performance of different models (raspberry pi and others)
[22:01] <n-st> could someone who already owns one benchmark a pi 3 for me, please?
[22:02] <n-st> `openssl speed sha256 aes-128-cbc aes-256-cbc` should do (and runs in about 45 seconds on my current sbc)
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[22:09] <Nauti> Guess I can
[22:09] <Nauti> No idea what it does though or what you want as a result but I guess I'll pastebin it
[22:11] <tvm_> Nauti: it measures computational speed with given digests
[22:11] <Nauti> https://pastebin.com/KWrwcZuC
[22:11] <Nauti> Digests?
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[22:13] <n-st> Nauti: digest = hashing algorithm, i.e. it computes a short fixed-length checksum from a given (variable length) input
[22:13] <tvm_> yeah, sha-256 is hashing function
[22:13] <tvm_> just like md5, which you probably know
[22:14] <n-st> hmm, performance is okay, but not much faster than my old odroid-c1…
[22:14] <n-st> Nauti: is that a B 3 or B 3+?
[22:15] <tvm_> n-st: what other devices have you considered ?
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[22:16] <n-st> tvm_: elektor currently has a sale on the pi B 3 and 3+, and on the banana pi M2 berry. so it would be quite convenient if one of those would fit
[22:17] <n-st> tvm_: currently i'm using an odroid c1, which is bottlenecking my 200 mbit/s connection to 20 mbit/s because the cpu can't do the crypto fast enough
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[22:18] <n-st> so now i'm (tentatively) looking for something with low power consumption and high single-core cpu performance (don't think tinc is multithreaded)
[22:19] <tvm_> we use Upboard devices for more CPU intensive tasks
[22:19] <tvm_> these things are blitz fast compared to RPI
[22:20] <tvm_> but bit costlier
[22:20] <n-st> yeah, "a bit" :/
[22:23] <n-st> it's quite hard to decide, especially as most rpi clones don't come with proper documentation (looking at you, odroid!)
[22:26] <tvm_> well, as a developer who mostly struggles with such devices, i have yet to see one such device with decent documentation
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[22:29] <djp_> am i correct that current releases of raspian do not enable ssh by default? do i need to create a file named "ssh" in the boot partition in order to enable it if accessing the pi with a headless connection?
[22:30] <mfa298> n-st: a couple of things to consider, raspbian (the preferred OS on the Pi) is designed to work on the whole Pi range (from the Zero with ARMv6 through the Pi3B+ with ARM8) so it things are compiled with that in mind.
[22:31] <n-st> mfa298: i'd probably run archlinux arm, to be able to streamline and tweak it for my use case
[22:31] <mfa298> also I think I've seen some suggetions that some crypto stuff is much faster on a 64bit install (which isn't so common as in most cases it doesn't provide much benefit)
[22:31] <tvm_> djp_: correct
[22:31] <n-st> but yeah, i see your point about optimisations/lack thereof
[22:32] <djp_> tvm_: thanks.
[22:32] <mfa298> there was a whole long thread about 64 bit for the pi3 recently on the forums which might be worth a read
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[22:37] <tfgbd_> Has anyone tried Windows 10 ARM yet?
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[22:44] <n-st> "impatient windows user" stereotype confirmed :D
[22:45] <n-st> mfa298: alright, B3+ it is then. should be the best balance between performance/power/cost at the moment
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[22:53] <mfa298> n-st: the downside of the Raspberrys is limited network bandwidth, the ethernet is on a USB2 port. But it's probably at least an easier platform to get hold of and test stuff.
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[22:54] <mfa298> if you found optimized image + 64bit make a big improvment you can always then look for alternatives with true GigE (and then deal with poorly supported AllWinner chips)
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[22:56] <n-st> mfa298: allwinner (at least the A20 series) seems to be better supported than some of the broadcom stuff…
[22:57] <n-st> amlogic is where it gets nasty
[22:58] <n-st> there's actually a pretty neat odroid model based on a samsung chip
[22:59] <n-st> but they've been so unbelievably bad on the C1 (amlogic-based, can only run a fork of linux 4.10 unstable) that i want to avoid them at all cost :/
[22:59] <mfa298> the A20 has been around for quite a while so should be well supported, but newer things like the A64 and H5 (both 64bit Socs) seems to be more hit and miss (although I've not looked for a couple of months)
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[23:00] <n-st> the only "true alternative" would be something from olimex. they at least make sure their hardware can run a mainline kernel…
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[23:01] <n-st> the whole fruitbasket (orange/banana/whatnot) usually looks intriguing at first, but then ends up having some obscure problem you simply cannot fix
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[23:02] <n-st> and so it comes that i have a bunch of boards collecting dust in my cupboard, while the important stuff runs on a rather weak (but reliable) olimex board
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[23:26] <tvm_> n-st: spot on
[23:27] <tvm_> most of the cheap stuff usually has usually some odd problem that can't be really solved
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[23:28] <tvm_> this also applies to RPI, but the community is overally supportive and one is able to find a solution sooner or later
[23:29] <tvm_> which isn't the case with other SOCs usually
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[23:29] <tvm_> not even speaking about the distro compatibility
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[23:32] <tvm_> in fact, i just ran into obscure mmal issue this week on RPI
[23:32] <tvm_> seems like it's known since 2015, but is still present in the firmware :/
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[23:34] <tvm_> presents itself randomly after hours of video playback, but not always
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