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IRC Log for 2018-04-08

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[1:01] <Hero1980> Hello can anyone know how to solve this this problem with this Error https://imgur.com/a/rvoT0
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[1:04] <Hero1980> anyone there
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[1:08] <Hero1980> i found this answer but it did not work with me the error still exsist
[1:08] <ebarch> Hero1980: don't expect immediate answers via IRC. lots of people probably received your message but aren't actively engaged at the moment :P also, you might have better luck in ##c for C programming related questions. I don't program a ton in C, but it looks like you are missing an import for the MQTT client you're attempting to use
[1:09] <ali1234> ##c will tear you apart if you take that question there
[1:09] <ebarch> heh, fair enough
[1:09] <ali1234> you need to link the mqtt library
[1:10] <Hero1980> <ali1234> how to link mqtt library
[1:10] <ali1234> you search the mqtt docs for "how to link" and then you do whatever it says
[1:10] <ali1234> probably something like "-lmqtt"
[1:11] <Budgii> Has anyone ever made something to hang up their laundry? :D
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[1:11] <ebarch> Budgii: a company hoping to acquire your hard earned $$ has: https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/10/16865506/laundroid-laundry-folding-machine-foldimate-ces-2018
[1:12] <Budgii> ha
[1:12] <ebarch> but I would love to see a DIY project for 1/10 of the cost :P
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[1:48] <Hero1980> <Owner> Hello
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[1:49] <raidghost> Would there be a openelec build for Raspberry Pi V3 B+ ?
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[1:50] <ali1234> there is a libreelec build
[1:50] <raidghost> Running openelec on my v3 B and it works perfect. Swapping the microsd card onto the v3b+ Does not work
[1:50] <ali1234> https://libreelec.tv/2018/03/libreelec-krypton-8-2-4-mr/
[1:50] <raidghost> So, i wont get the rainbow color thingy?
[1:51] <Hero1980> can anyone help me with this i tried to link the library but it is not working https://imgur.com/a/WlHmU
[1:51] <ali1234> that's what they say
[1:51] <raidghost> ali1234: Thank you soo much!
[1:52] <raidghost> Hopefully the V3b+ will play 1080p and 720p without problems
[1:52] <FireHopper> afternoon all
[1:52] <ali1234> Hero1980: try -lpaho-mqtt3c
[1:52] <raidghost> Afternoon? its pm in norway :p
[1:52] <ali1234> not -L and no space
[1:53] <FireHopper> actually evening here doh
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[1:56] <wuzamarine> my pi3 is stuck in perpetual reboot from an update
[1:56] <raidghost> ali1234: seems like no pi3 image only pi2 and pi1
[1:56] <wuzamarine> I can't seem to f2 etc... the boot or anything
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[1:57] <topicali> i'd like a user to be able to reboot/shutdown the system without needing to be root..i tried adding this to sudoers, but didn't work:
[1:57] <topicali> username ALL = NOPASSWD: /sbin/reboot, /sbin/shutdown
[1:58] <topicali> obviously i'm doing something wrong..
[1:58] <ali1234> systemctl poweroff
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[1:59] <topicali> that gives me: 1. ,,, (pi)
[1:59] <topicali> <linebreak> 2. root
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[2:00] <ali1234> user needs to have a session so it will probably nly work in the desktop environment
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[2:00] <topicali> ah
[2:00] <ali1234> it's how the shutdown menu works without a password
[2:01] <topicali> i see..i'm not using a desktop/gui =/
[2:01] <topicali> just ssh
[2:01] <ali1234> fixing sudo is probably your only option then
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[2:02] <topicali> gotcha..so that line in sudoers would allow the user to do 'sudo reboot' w/out password?
[2:02] <ali1234> theoretically
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[2:04] <topicali> cool, that worked..ty!
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[2:05] <topicali> jw, is there a reason why 'visudo' is recommended over 'sudo /etc/sudoers'?
[2:06] <topicali> rather, why 'sudo visudo' is preferred?
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[2:09] <GeekDrew> i know that this isn't strictly an rpi question, but is anyone aware of a case/chassis that works for an rpi3 + a powerblock + a switch?
[2:09] <Hero1980> Hello i am getting this error ( https://imgur.com/a/rvoT0 ) i tried this ( https://imgur.com/a/0og8P ) but still the same the same Error
[2:09] <cheekio> you mean sudo vi `/etc/sudoers`?
[2:10] <cheekio> err, `sudo vi /etc/sudoers`
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[2:10] <cheekio> The reason is that visudo is supposed to stop you from breaking sudoers, which will lock you out-
[2:11] <cheekio> In practice I've effectively broken my sudoers file with `sudo vi /etc/sudoers`, but I've never gotten `sudo visudo` to tell me when I screwed something up.
[2:11] <topicali> err yes, vs. using 'sudo nano /etc/sudoers' or 'sudo vi /etc/sudoers'
[2:11] <topicali> haha yea that's why i was wondering what the purpose of visudo was
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[2:12] <GeekDrew> well, visudo won't necessarily prevent you from locking yourself out, but it should prevent you from doing something that would invalidate the sudoers configuration
[2:13] <GeekDrew> much like `crontab -e` will warn about errors prior to commit, whereas editing the crontab directly won't
[2:14] <topicali> ahh i see
[2:14] <topicali> so basically checks the syntax?
[2:14] <GeekDrew> yes
[2:14] <topicali> good to know
[2:14] <ali1234> Hero1980: your second image shows that the command was successful
[2:15] <topicali> k cool..i just entered a blatantly incorrect line and it asked if i really wanted to save changes..cool stuff
[2:16] <Hero1980> <ali1234> yes but still not working
[2:16] <cheekio> Just saved you a tremendous headache, that
[2:16] <GeekDrew> ^
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[2:17] <Hero1980> with compiling no Error
[2:17] <Hero1980> <ali1234> but with build i get this Error
[2:18] <cheekio> anyone try using something like chibiOS on an rpi?
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[2:18] <cheekio> I need to read up on what advantages, if any, a real time os would have
[2:19] <cheekio> I'm guessing they're pretty slim for something like an RPI- what could you need all that computing power for if you also have a preemtive kernel
[2:19] <topicali> what would be the command if i wanted the system to pause before executing the next command? like 'echo test&& <pause 2 seconds> && echo next'?
[2:20] <GeekDrew> sleep 2
[2:20] <Hero1980> <ali1234> do you think there is something wrong here https://imgur.com/a/nMUNo
[2:20] <topicali> ahh duh..couldn't remember it..ty
[2:20] <ali1234> Hero1980: yes
[2:21] <Hero1980> what is it
[2:22] <Hero1980> <ali1234> what is it ?
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[2:31] <Hero1980> <ali1234> do you have an Idea
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[2:52] <Budgii> How many Pi do you have?
[3:01] <BurtyB> not enough, you?
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[3:07] <mlelstv> temperature: 75.212 85.000 degC
[3:09] <Hero1980> Hello can anyone help me with this ( MyFirstmqttExample.c:(.text+0x84): undefined reference to `MQTTClient_connect' )
[3:10] <mlelstv> hero, you probably need to link with another library
[3:11] <Hero1980> <mlelstv> how
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[3:12] <mlelstv> temperature: 77.364 85.000 degC
[3:12] <Hero1980> <mlelstv> look at this error https://imgur.com/a/rvoT0
[3:13] <stiv> undefined ref means a missing library (or the wrong version) ((or two different compilers))
[3:13] <mlelstv> you see the gcc -Wall -o untitled untitled.c ?
[3:13] <Hero1980> do you mean this https://imgur.com/a/nMUNo
[3:13] <stiv> you are missing the library in the command. something like -lmqtt or such
[3:13] <mlelstv> there is an option missing like -lmqtt (to link with libmqtt)
[3:14] <mlelstv> yes, add to the "Build" command
[3:14] <Hero1980> when i do compile no error only in thr build command
[3:15] <Hero1980> what to add
[3:15] <Hero1980> i will add this -lmqtt
[3:16] <Hero1980> let me see what will happen
[3:16] <mlelstv> the assumption is that you have a libmqtt.so installed.
[3:17] <mlelstv> temperature: 78.440 85.000 degC
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[3:21] <cheekio> Ok, why does google hangout give me nearly real time output from my camera, but vlc gives me ~1 second lag?
[3:22] <mlelstv> temperature: 78.440 85.000 degC
[3:22] <mlelstv> maybe google cheats?
[3:23] <cheekio> google, pulling data from the future as usual
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[3:26] <mlelstv> hmm. maybe rpi firmware cheats too
[3:27] <mlelstv> temperature: 78.978 85.000 degC
[3:27] <mlelstv> what is a flash symbol in the right top edge of the screen ? :)
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[3:29] <mlelstv> funny. undervoltage.
[3:31] <Hero1980> <mlelstv> i tried this https://imgur.com/a/IoIu4 but not working and i have this library https://imgur.com/a/w6Ugh
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[3:32] <mlelstv> looks like you do not have the library installed. where did you get the header files from?
[3:33] <Hero1980> i got it from here git clone https://github.com/eclipse/paho.mqtt.c.git
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[3:34] <mlelstv> did you build mqtt ?
[3:34] <cheekio> Honest question ?> what is a flash symbol in the right top edge of the screen ? :)
[3:34] <cheekio> uh, next line says no
[3:35] <ali1234> mlelstv: he has the library but needs to add the linker command to the IDE
[3:35] <cheekio> nvm- reading comprehension escapes me tonight
[3:35] <mlelstv> https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/57963/what-does-the-lightning-bolt-mean
[3:35] <stiv> The Paho C client comprises four shared libraries:
[3:35] <stiv> libmqttv3a.so - asynchronous
[3:35] <Hero1980> <mlelstv> but it is installed look https://imgur.com/a/BFCis
[3:35] <stiv> and so on. you have the wrong lib name
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[3:35] <ali1234> this is the right gcc command line apparently : https://imgur.com/a/0og8P
[3:36] <ali1234> it needs to be translated to whatever IDE that is
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[3:36] <mlelstv> great. so intead of -lmqtt use -lpaho-mqtt3c
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[3:37] <Hero1980> <mlelstv> it works
[3:38] <Hero1980> <Hero1980> big Kisses and hug to you
[3:38] <Hero1980> <mlelstv> thank you so muchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[3:39] <mlelstv> thank stiv and ali1234
[3:39] <mlelstv> temperature: 56.920 85.000 degC
[3:40] <Hero1980> thanks for all of you <mlelstv> <stiv> <ali1234>
[3:40] * mlelstv thinks the 3b+ is an improvement....
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[4:14] <Hero1980> < mlelstv> i have this one https://imgur.com/a/ghyhF can i connect it to this cloud https://imgur.com/a/q3Y8h
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[4:18] <Hero1980> i have this one https://imgur.com/a/ghyhF can i connect it to this cloud https://imgur.com/a/q3Y8h
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[4:26] <ali1234> Hero1980: don't post your password like that. you must change it now
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[4:27] <Hero1980> <ali1234> it is okay this account only to learn
[4:28] <Hero1980> but what to change in the code ?
[4:28] <ali1234> i don't know. probably the access token?
[4:29] <ali1234> maybe it wants you to use SSL
[4:29] <ali1234> you need to look up error code 5 i guess
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[4:35] <Hero1980> <ali1234> that is the code https://imgur.com/a/pxPb7
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[4:38] <ali1234> 5: Connection refused: Not authorized
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[4:38] <Hero1980> now i am getting this error https://imgur.com/a/YUZF3 after i changed the port to this https://imgur.com/a/Ys91K
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[4:39] <ali1234> Hero1980: you have entered the clientID incorrectly
[4:40] <ali1234> put the port back how it was and fix CLIENTID
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[4:50] <Hero1980> <ali1234> what is the clientID
[4:51] <ali1234> part of your program
[4:51] <Hero1980> i know
[4:52] <Hero1980> but i mean what is clientID from here https://imgur.com/a/q3Y8h
[4:52] <ali1234> you know what it is
[4:52] <ali1234> you copied it into the program - incorrectly
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[5:02] <Hero1980> i correct it https://imgur.com/a/00HF7 but another error
[5:04] <Hero1980> what i dont understand what is it CLIENTID
[5:05] <Hero1980> i know ther Server and i know the topic and port but what is the ClienID
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[7:29] <luxio> I'm trying to connect a SATA hard drive to a raspberry pi with the fastest speeds possible, would connecting it over the gigabit ethernet port be better than USB?
[7:29] <luxio> is it even possible to use the ethernet port for a hard drive?
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[7:30] <Choscura> luxio, what are you trying to do?
[7:30] <luxio> connect a SATA hard drive to a raspberry pi with the fastest speeds possible
[7:30] <Choscura> testing 123
[7:30] <BenderRodriguez> Choscura: testing passed!
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[7:30] <Choscura> just passed on my screen a sec ago
[7:31] <Choscura> and luxio, yes, that's what you said, why are you trying to do that?
[7:31] <Choscura> what does it need to be so fast for? are you doing huge data moves or something?
[7:31] <BenderRodriguez> Don't the USB and Gigabit interfaces share the same bus?
[7:32] <Choscura> eh? they may have a common pattern of power pos/neg and data pos/neg, but I don't know if that's on the same BUS on the pi side or if it's the same protocols on both.
[7:32] <luxio> Choscura: i will be making the pi into a seedbox so i'll be transferring large... linux isos
[7:32] <luxio> and storing them too
[7:33] <Choscura> luxio, that's way overkill, then. You'll be fine with a normal USB mount, most of the time. If you want to get a linux distro well hosted, have your pi/pis superseed as a swarm on torrent for this purpose.
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[7:33] <luxio> ok thank you
[7:33] <Choscura> which, I think they come with transmission pre installed, so that's relatively straightforward
[7:34] <Choscura> but, I think I remember you asking about this a month ago or so
[7:34] <Choscura> you got a pi 3 b I think?
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[7:34] <Choscura> what else besides this have you used it for?
[7:34] <luxio> actually i dont have a raspberry pi but i was going to buy one for this purpose
[7:34] <Choscura> aah
[7:34] <luxio> was making sure it was possible
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[7:34] <Choscura> well, it's very possible
[7:34] <luxio> do you recommend the 3b/+?
[7:34] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[7:35] <Choscura> the thing I tell everybody that's a mindfiretruck is "it boots in 10 seconds and you can be playing pi minecraft at 60 fps 10-15 seconds after that"
[7:35] <Choscura> and, get the B+ since it's out
[7:35] <Choscura> the B is still worth having, I'm talking to you on one of mine
[7:35] <ShapeShifter499> I got a canakit 3 b+ kit with a couple of heatsinks. Where should I be placing these heatsinks?
[7:35] <Choscura> but, the B+ is enough better, especially for networking, that I can just flat out recommend it. It even fits the same case.
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[7:35] <Choscura> Shapeshifter, the two black squares on the top of the board that the usb ports stick up from.
[7:36] <Choscura> and, you may want to scrape off that tape shit and put the heat sink down with a bit of thermal compound.
[7:36] <Choscura> the sink itself is good, the tape is not.
[7:36] <Choscura> sync, possibly.
[7:37] <ShapeShifter499> The heatsink seems to have the thermal foam stuff
[7:37] <Choscura> that 'foam' stuff is the tape I referred to, I suspect
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[7:37] <Choscura> foam insulates, that's the opposite of what you want it to do. you want it to move heat from processor to metal block that can move the heat to the air.
[7:38] <ShapeShifter499> Choscura: http://a.co/5ChDY3y
[7:38] <ShapeShifter499> I'm not actually sure if it's foam
[7:38] <Choscura> thermal compound (lithium grease?) is a greasy metalic compound that the heat sync/fan goes on a desktop/laptop processor with, and also goes between high load boards and their respective heat syncs, eg, motor controller boards for 3d printers
[7:38] <ShapeShifter499> it has a blue protective cover
[7:39] <Choscura> well, that looks like the tape stuff. which, better than nothing, the pi will run with it, they wouldn't sell if it didn't, but it's not as good as the thermal compound stuff
[7:40] <Choscura> the problem you'll run into is that it'll get slow/you'll see a lightning bolt and/or thermometer in the top right of your screen (assuming your pi isn't headless) when that's going off. a real charger (that 2.5 amp requirement where the standard USB amperage supply is 2- which will boot you but leave you running slow) and the thermal compound.
[7:40] <ShapeShifter499> it's another thing I'll have to go buy
[7:40] <Choscura> the thermal compound is like 3 bucks for a lifetime supply on amazon
[7:40] <Choscura> comes in little syringes
[7:41] <Choscura> you need literally less than 1/3 of a drop per processor/heat sync
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[7:41] <Choscura> if you use up a syringe, you have done it wrong
[7:41] <Choscura> but, not in a way that will damage your pi. it'll be fine under the goop.
[7:43] <ShapeShifter499> right, I've brought goop before but it was whatever cheap stuff I got from Frys many years ago
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[7:43] <ShapeShifter499> Choscura: what goop would you suggest?
[7:43] <Choscura> I was just lunking
[7:43] <Choscura> I think this is what I got, but it's a generic material, any will do
[7:43] <Choscura> https://www.amazon.com/Thermal-ThermalCoolFlux-Performance-Polysynthetic-Silver/dp/B00QZD6LFY/ref=sr_1_8?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1523166192&sr=1-8&keywords=thermal+compound
[7:44] <Choscura> my bad on the price, $6 instead of 3
[7:45] <Choscura> I think the many smaller syringes is better than one big syringe because once opened they'll start drying out/turning plastic, and even if you put them in a drawer for a few years (as I have now) they still work fine if unopened.
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[7:47] <Choscura> (btw this thermal compound is the same stuff on your laptop/desktop CPU, and that can stand to be changed every 1-1.5 years)
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[9:08] <red9> Does the context switcher and interrupt code reside in cache locked L1 or L2 memory?
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[9:17] <red9> https://www.jblopen.com/arm-cortex-a-interrupt-latency/ - ARM Cortex-A Interrupt Latency
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[10:25] <Ben64> i have a server, the server runs apache and mysql and php. I have a raspberry pi and I want to query the mysql database, can I do so by accessing a certain password protected php url? How?
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[10:25] <mlelstv> yes and no.
[10:25] <mlelstv> you could create a php page for that, which is password protected.
[10:26] <mlelstv> but you could also access mysql directly.
[10:26] <Ben64> well, opening up mysql to outside seems like a bad idea
[10:26] <mlelstv> why?
[10:26] <mlelstv> IMHO opening up php to the outside is worse :)
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[10:27] <Ben64> it's through apache
[10:27] <mlelstv> so what?
[10:27] <gordonDrogon> Ben64, look at curl / lib-curl which most languages on the Pi ought to support.
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[10:27] <Ben64> it's how everyone uses php...
[10:27] <mfa298> either can be bad, it depends on how well (or poorly) it's configured.
[10:28] <gordonDrogon> Ben64, you can use curl to remotely access webservers from programs.
[10:28] <Ben64> gordonDrogon: cool
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[10:28] <mfa298> Ben64: if you're sending credentials you should also try and get the connection SSL secured (https for apache)
[10:29] <gordonDrogon> or if you just want to access the database, then allow remote access to the database - then you can use libmysqel from most languages and bypass the web layer.
[10:29] <Ben64> mfa298: for sure
[10:29] <gordonDrogon> however opening the database isn't without issues - you'd want to create a separate read-only user with the right acces to the database & tables and consider firewalling to only allow remote access from the Pi.
[10:30] <Ben64> if pycurl will work, then that would allow me to avoid opening up mysql to the internet
[10:30] <gordonDrogon> indeed - but it will be slower as it is going to put everything through another layer of python -> http(s) -> apache/php before it ever gets to the database.
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[10:31] <Ben64> shouldn't be a problem
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[10:34] <mfa298> Ben64: for what's the right way, that often depends on what you're trying to do. If this is a service with some data store that an app talks to then putting it via a http api (your apache/php program) is often the right way. The app potentially shouldn't know about what the backend is - just how to send/receive data in a format that makes sense. For a one off application that's tightly integrated to the actual DB then direct DB access might be more ap
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[10:36] <Ben64> yeah it's not hugely into the db, just looks up a person and logs the access
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[10:39] <Ben64> well, got pycurl to spit out data from https, was very easy
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[10:59] <gordonDrogon> good-oh!
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[11:28] <Bilz> hi. has anyone used the dusco.e 3.5" screen with the raspberry pi?
[11:29] <Bilz> would like any advice regarding installing drivers
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[16:13] <Voop> i googled it but didnt find anything conclusive
[16:13] <Voop> how bad is it to use acid core solder on electronics?
[16:14] <Habbie> from a quick google on this end, quite bad
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[16:15] <Tex_Nick> It's BAD, use rosin multicore 60/40 preferably
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[16:16] <stiv> if by 'electronics' you mean water pipes, it is fine
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[16:39] <Voop> Tex_Nick: Habbie
[16:40] <Voop> could you tell me what the outcome would be
[16:40] <Voop> or could be
[16:40] <Habbie> i can only tell you what i found on google
[16:40] <Habbie> which means you can as well
[16:40] <Voop> i couldnt find any info on what would actually happen
[16:40] <Habbie> 'corrosion' came up a lot
[16:40] <Voop> just that its 'bad'
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[16:41] <Voop> well yeah the acid is there to eat through the oxide layer
[16:41] <Voop> to form a strong bond with the copper
[16:41] <Voop> but would it actually mess up pads on a pcb
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[16:46] <gordonDrogon> Voop, people (like myself) have been using rosin cored solder for 35+ years.
[16:46] <stiv> the issue is removing *all* the flux after soldering. a little corrosion on a copper pipe is no big deal. between traces on a pcb...
[16:47] <gordonDrogon> some of my early stuff still looks good.
[16:47] <Tex_Nick> Voop: yes acid core solder can eat away the thin foil paths & pads on PCBs, it can also eat away the pads on IC's
[16:47] <red9> Any good/bad experiences on different BluRay writer brands and models?
[16:47] <gordonDrogon> they don't allow "Trike" these days, but there are other good sprays to remove residue.
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[16:48] <red9> Flux left between tracks = corrosion problems?
[16:48] * gordonDrogon counts up... 40 years..
[16:48] <gordonDrogon> red9, I've never experienced it in the hobby world, but who knows.
[16:49] <gordonDrogon> production stuff has always been washed in some sort of solvent...
[16:49] <red9> Any problems with Tin whiskers?
[16:50] <gordonDrogon> not at the hobby level.
[16:50] <red9> solvent = alcohol? (ethanol?)
[16:50] <gordonDrogon> AIUI, it's potentially only an issue inside chips where the spot welds from the die to the pins are concerned.
[16:50] <Voop> so if i use acid core solder theres a 100% chance everything will break
[16:50] <gordonDrogon> red9, I've no idea these days. I'd need to read the label.
[16:50] <red9> There were a lot of articles that tin whiskers would short-out motherboards etc..
[16:51] <gordonDrogon> Voop, do you think they'd sell it if there was?
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[16:51] <Voop> gordonDrogon: well its sold for pipes
[16:51] <gordonDrogon> I use lead solder anyway.
[16:51] <Voop> its the only solder they had at walmart
[16:51] <gordonDrogon> Voop, I do a lot of my own plumbing - always clean the pipes afterwards.
[16:51] <Voop> lol im not trying to solder pipes
[16:51] <gordonDrogon> I use Ersin multicore.
[16:52] <Voop> im trying to solder some stuff to a pi. only have pipe solder (acid core instead of rosin)
[16:52] <red9> Using lead solder on pipes seems like a health problem. For electronics a lot less so.
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[16:52] <Voop> its illegal a lot of places red9
[16:52] <Habbie> i got some lead free solder recently, haven't tried it yet
[16:52] <Habbie> was very cheap at maplin ;)
[16:52] <gordonDrogon> not sure if you can still get lead solder for pipe work these days.
[16:53] <Voop> all my solder stuff is at my work. and im not going there on a sunday
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[16:54] <Voop> so the consensus is
[16:54] <Voop> dont use this solder
[16:54] <Voop> ?
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[16:54] <red9> Voop, They tried relining of old pipes using plastic. However it was shown that those leaked Bisphenol A, so quick end to that. For sewage pipes it still used I think.
[16:55] <gordonDrogon> it's still fine to use leaded solder for home/hobby work.
[16:55] <NGC3982> hi guys. i have installed raspian on my pi, and im running the gunicorn (gunicorn temperature:app) to look at my DS18B20 sensor data. when i run the command i get: modprobe: FATAL: Module w1-gpio not found in directory /lib/modules/4.9.80+
[16:55] <red9> (Bisphenol A is also a component in Epoxy..)
[16:55] <gordonDrogon> it's just production stuff that's the issue.
[16:55] <NGC3982> is this something that i can fix, or is my pi (2011.12) to old or something?
[16:56] <Habbie> NGC3982, what does uname -a say?
[16:56] <NGC3982> Linux raspberrypi 4.9.80+ #1098 Fri Mar 9 18:51:28 GMT 2018 armv6l GNU/Linux
[16:56] <Habbie> what does find /lib/modules -name w1-gpio.ko say?
[16:56] <Voop> ill use the solder anyway and give some conclusive data
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[16:57] <Tex_Nick> Voop: here's what could happen with acid flux solder, particularly if the acid wasn't completely removed ... http://www.aimsolder.com/sites/default/files/whats_on_your_rework_bench_1.jpg
[16:57] <NGC3982> Habbie: http://paste.debian.net/1019294/
[16:58] <Habbie> so that version does not match your kernel
[16:58] <Habbie> is it possible you updated your kernel and did not reboot after?
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[16:58] <NGC3982> i downloaded raspbian, installed, apt-get update and here i am, so probably yes. :-)
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[16:58] <Voop> that doesnt look good Tex_Nick
[16:59] <Habbie> NGC3982, try a reboot
[16:59] <gordonDrogon> and remember to run sudo raspi-config to make sure 1-w is enabled.
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[16:59] <Tex_Nick> MOPE ;-)
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[16:59] <Tex_Nick> Nope*
[16:59] <Voop> is there a way to remove the acid
[16:59] <NGC3982> Habbie: sorry, i should at least have tried that before searching support. rebooting now.
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[17:00] <NGC3982> i also realized that i did not activate the ssh server to run automatically.
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[17:04] <NGC3982> Habbie: that seems to have done it. the program fails in other aspects, but i do not think that is connected to the gpio.
[17:04] <Habbie> NGC3982, ok
[17:04] <NGC3982> ImportError: No module named temperature (and a wall-of-text python traceback)
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[17:05] <NGC3982> there we go
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[17:08] <gordonDrogon> NGC3982, try: gpio -x ds18b20:200:1212121211212 aread 100 # where 12121212.. is the serial number found in ls /sys/bus/w1/devices/
[17:08] <gordonDrogon> the serial will look like: 28-0000053af458
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[17:13] <NGC3982> it worked out when i executed it in the temperature-serve-pi folder
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[17:13] <NGC3982> still, it tells me "Sorry, no temperature sensors found"
[17:13] <NGC3982> i have double checked the soldering and the gpio placement.
[17:14] <NGC3982> the only thing that differs from the guide im using ( https://blog.dataplicity.com/how-to-build-a-raspberry-pi-thermometer-you-can-access-anywhere-a-beginner-s-guide-4ad44ce9f4c9 ) is that im using Pi 1 model B, and the doesnt specify.
[17:14] <NGC3982> does gpio placement differ?
[17:15] <NGC3982> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FGCvvT77ZB/
[17:18] <red9> check wiring pinout?
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[17:19] <Habbie> NGC3982, did you try gordonDrogon's suggestion?
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[17:20] <NGC3982> no, i thought that was related to my first error.
[17:20] <NGC3982> ill try it.
[17:20] <NGC3982> gpio is not a recogniced command.
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[17:21] <NGC3982> /sys/bus/w1/devices/ is an empty directory.
[17:22] <NGC3982> red9: i did.
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[17:23] <Habbie> empty dir seems bad
[17:23] <Habbie> did you enable 1-w in raspi-config?
[17:23] <NGC3982> uhm, but wait a minute. i think i need to look at the correct guides here.
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[17:24] <NGC3982> because the adafruit guide tells me to do -a lot- of other stuff.
[17:24] * NGC3982 does the lot of other stuff.
[17:24] <Habbie> what's the other stuff?
[17:24] <NGC3982> < Habbie> did you enable 1-w in raspi-config?
[17:24] <NGC3982> that, for instance.
[17:24] <Habbie> ah
[17:25] <NGC3982> yeah, there we go.
[17:25] <NGC3982> 28-0516a08d38ff
[17:25] <Habbie> yess
[17:25] <Habbie> now try the gpio command
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[17:26] <Habbie> apt-get install wiringpi
[17:26] <NGC3982> yey! end i got temperature
[17:26] <NGC3982> and*
[17:26] <Habbie> woot
[17:26] <NGC3982> a2 01 4b 46 7f ff 0c 10 49 t=26125 = 26.125C.
[17:27] <Habbie> that's pretty warm
[17:27] <NGC3982> but the value does not change, which worries me.
[17:27] <NGC3982> oh, it did. eb 01 4b 46 7f ff 0c 10 69 t=30687 when i touched it a bit
[17:28] <NGC3982> yey! thanks a lot guys.
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[17:34] <NGC3982> if i understand this correctly, i can chain the 3,3V and the ground and use (any) of the other GPIO0-7 connectors to use more than one sensor?
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[17:35] <NGC3982> i need to build two (for hydroponics)
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[17:38] <Habbie> you can put more devices on the same pin
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[17:38] <NGC3982> and it will recognice it as different devices?
[17:38] <Habbie> yes
[17:39] <Habbie> that's why you needed to tell gpio the serial
[17:39] <Habbie> so it talks to the right one
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[17:39] <NGC3982> but i didnt
[17:39] <NGC3982> that command never worked. :-p
[17:39] <Habbie> you should make it work
[17:39] <Habbie> it is very useful for debugging
[17:39] <NGC3982> absolutely
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[17:47] <gordonDrogon> NGC3982, you can only use one pin on the Pi for 1-wire (at least normally). so you use that one pin for many sensors.
[17:48] <NGC3982> oh, i -need- to use the same pin?
[17:48] <NGC3982> allright.
[17:48] <gordonDrogon> NGC3982, it's better to use active power too - also, you can do a bus reset by supplying power from a gpio pin.
[17:48] <Habbie> you can make more 1w-pins, in fact
[17:48] <Habbie> but you don't need to
[17:48] <NGC3982> i see.
[17:48] <gordonDrogon> Habbie, oh? that's relatively new, I guess - I thought the module was tied to one pin only #4 ...
[17:49] <Habbie> gordonDrogon, https://pinout.xyz/pinout/1_wire
[17:49] <Habbie> gordonDrogon, 'newer kernels ...'
[17:49] <gordonDrogon> ah, ok.
[17:50] <NGC3982> but, im a bit confused. as long as i can specify the serial, i should use the same gpio pin for multiple 1w sensors?
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[17:52] <gordonDrogon> I'dstart by using the same one pin.
[17:52] <Habbie> NGC3982, should/can, yes
[17:52] <NGC3982> cool!
[17:53] <NGC3982> but that also means, until i fix that gpio command i cannot use 1 pin.
[17:53] <Habbie> no
[17:53] <Habbie> not true
[17:53] <Habbie> but let's start there anyway
[17:53] <Habbie> because it will make everything easier
[17:53] <Habbie> how does it fail?
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[17:53] <NGC3982> the command does not exist
[17:53] <Habbie> apt-get install wiringpi
[17:54] <NGC3982> there we go
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[17:55] <gordonDrogon> the gpio command is jus a utility part of a library (that I maintain). It gives you a handy way to test the 1-wire (and other) gpio stuff. It looks like you've managed to read it via the sysfs interface though, so you don't really need it.
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[17:56] <gordonDrogon> I guess you started with raspbian-lite as it's normally installed with full raspbian though.
[17:56] <NGC3982> i see.
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[17:56] <NGC3982> still, im in the device dir: /sys/bus/w1/devices/28-0516a08d38ff
[17:56] <gordonDrogon> sure. that's fine
[17:56] <NGC3982> so, the command should be: gpio -x ds18b20:200:28-0516a08d38ff aread 100 ?
[17:56] <gordonDrogon> the gpio command would be... ^ yes, that.
[17:57] <gordonDrogon> er, no -
[17:57] <gordonDrogon> use the same number 100 or 200
[17:57] <gordonDrogon> so for that, aread 200 as you told wiringPi to use virtual pin 200 for the device.
[17:57] <NGC3982> it returned "0"
[17:57] <NGC3982> ooh. and 100 returned 263.
[17:58] <gordonDrogon> so 26.3�C
[17:58] <NGC3982> ooh!
[17:58] <NGC3982> so cool. what did i actually change?
[17:58] <gordonDrogon> hold your thumb & finger over it and run it again.
[17:58] <Habbie> NGC3982, nothing
[17:58] <gordonDrogon> not sure you changed anything, just configured the Pi to read 1-wire sensors.
[17:58] <Habbie> NGC3982, you have made it possible for yourself to read the temperature with the gpio tool
[17:58] <Habbie> NGC3982, which is useful for debugging
[17:58] <gordonDrogon> Habbie, sure. some time back.
[17:58] <NGC3982> sorry, what did the "100" do
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[17:59] <Habbie> NGC3982, running this gpio command changes nothing
[17:59] <Habbie> NGC3982, it just gives you a reading
[17:59] <NGC3982> aha
[17:59] <NGC3982> cool
[17:59] <gordonDrogon> wiringPi is a pin based library - 100 is the new or virtual pin you assign to the device. pick any number from 64 to 2^32-
[17:59] <gordonDrogon> aread 100 means analog read pin 100.
[18:00] <gordonDrogon> -x device:100 means assign virtual pin No. 100 to that device.
[18:00] <NGC3982> i see.
[18:00] <stiv> not following this convo at all, but there are nice libs for reading 1-wire devices. doing it via /sys is nuts
[18:00] <NGC3982> well, i learned something cool :-p.
[18:00] <NGC3982> gordonDrogon: thanks, dude.
[18:00] <Habbie> stiv, NGC3982 already has some web app for it
[18:01] * stiv has used a python module that lets you enumerate devices on 1-wire bus and read temps with a single call
[18:01] <gordonDrogon> stiv, are there? /sys is the linux 1-w virtual device filing system.
[18:01] <gordonDrogon> stiv, sure it doesn't use the stuff in /sys ?
[18:01] <NGC3982> now, my mission is to mount this pi on my hydroponics (first. multiple readings come later), and send the temperature to my ubuntu server for script usage.
[18:01] <NGC3982> i think ill use a simple ssh fetch, since i only need >5-10 minute updates
[18:02] <stiv> gordonDrogon, 1-wire is a proprietary protocol, but published and heavily supported. likely any lib is doing /sys under the covers, but seems silly to do it by hand
[18:02] <gordonDrogon> stiv, no-one is doing it by hand here.
[18:02] <Habbie> stiv, we're just debugging
[18:04] <gordonDrogon> stiv, if you think wiringPi is "doing it by hand" then you're mis-informed. wiringPi uses the /sys/ interface to the OWFS.
[18:04] <NGC3982> this is not really a pi question, but i wonder when voltage drop becomes a problem. for testing, these wires are <1dm. in reality, they need to be at least 50cm.
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[18:04] <gordonDrogon> you'll be fine up to a few meters.
[18:04] <gordonDrogon> use cat-5 cabling for them.
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[18:05] <stiv> iirc, 1-wire devices can be daisy-chained for a couple hundred meters
[18:05] <Habbie> stiv, that assumes regeneration in a device?
[18:08] <stiv> 1-wire is a serial bus. issue with length is signal timing. manufacturer recommends daisy-chain vs star configuration
[18:08] <Habbie> but the ds18b20 has only one data pin, not two
[18:08] <Habbie> is where my confusion is coming from
[18:09] <stiv> that's why they call it 1-wire!
[18:09] <gordonDrogon> when it needs 3 :)
[18:09] <Habbie> gordonDrogon, the ds18b20 only needs 2 ;)
[18:09] <stiv> heh. for the v+ and ground
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[18:09] <gordonDrogon> Habbie, well - yes, but really - use acitve power - much more reliable.
[18:09] <Habbie> gordonDrogon, yes
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[18:11] <NGC3982> gordonDrogon: so ..an old cat-5 network cable could actually be rather useful?
[18:12] <gordonDrogon> NGC3982, yes, but please do spend some time reading up about wiring these sensors up. there is a lot online about them.
[18:12] <Tipping_Fedora> NGC3982, yea, I personally strip them and use them as wiring in my small porjects
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[18:12] <NGC3982> gordonDrogon: of course. thank you :).
[18:12] <NGC3982> cool.
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[18:45] <Budgii> does the CanaKit come with a case?
[18:45] <Budgii> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BC6WH7V
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[18:47] <gordonDrogon> at that price .. I suspect not.
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[18:50] <stiv> it would say if it came with a case. mine did, but it cost more
[18:51] <Tipping_Fedora> Budgii, can confirm no it does not
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[18:51] <Budgii> I couldn't see it saying it did on the page
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[18:51] <Tipping_Fedora> Budgii, nah, it doesnt, sorry
[18:51] <Budgii> are you serious. poo
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[18:51] <stiv> they also don't mention all the other things it doesn't come with
[18:52] <Budgii> whhat else?
[18:52] <Tipping_Fedora> Budgii, your first pi?
[18:53] <Budgii> yes
[18:53] <Budgii> I bought micro sd card with adapter, card reader, and rpi B+ accecory kit
[18:53] <Tipping_Fedora> ok, that helps us a bit, let me try to find you the offical docs from them
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[18:53] <Tipping_Fedora> that one from amazon?
[18:53] <Budgii> the folks in here yesterday helped me get set up
[18:53] <Budgii> yes.
[18:53] <Tipping_Fedora> still need a case?
[18:54] <Budgii> I'd imagine
[18:54] <Budgii> if it doesn't come with one on that very item haha
[18:54] * Tipping_Fedora runs his without cases with no issues as a side note
[18:54] <Tipping_Fedora> Ive got 4? hanging off the back of my server rack with no issues
[18:54] <Tipping_Fedora> they are fairly tough little machines
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[18:55] <Budgii> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MQLB1N6/
[18:55] <Budgii> this one looks cool
[18:55] <Tipping_Fedora> I personally only use a case if im gonna put in into a harsh environment (such as out side for a long persiod of time)
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[18:55] <Budgii> Yeah, I just don't want to have edges get caught on stuff ya know?
[18:55] <Budgii> easier to cary
[18:55] <Tipping_Fedora> I get it
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[18:56] <Budgii> wait a minyute
[18:56] <Tipping_Fedora> Understand it I should say
[18:56] <Budgii> what are these? "Set of 2 Aluminum Heat Sinks"
[18:56] <Tipping_Fedora> heat sinks for the pi...
[18:56] <Budgii> really.. lol
[18:56] <Tipping_Fedora> yea, more useful than you might think
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[18:57] <Tipping_Fedora> I use 4 pi3s as thin clients for plex and they get fairly hot doing 1080p video
[18:57] <Budgii> alright. well. I think I should get a case still :p
[18:57] <Tipping_Fedora> the heatsinks help keep it in check
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[18:57] <Tipping_Fedora> that one is all up to you
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[18:58] <Tipping_Fedora> well, im going afk for a bit, gl
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[18:59] <Budgii> this one is kinda cool https://www.amazon.com/iUniker-Raspberry-Case-Heatsink-Model/dp/B01LXSMY1N/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1523206724&sr=1-4&keywords=Raspberry+pi+3+B%2B+case&dpID=41wqQnIL7NL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch
[18:59] <Budgii> thanks later!
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[20:37] <RahulAN> hi All
[20:38] <RahulAN> I am trying to port haiku on Raspbery pi.
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[20:38] <Habbie> hello RahulAN
[20:39] <Habbie> i've been waiting for somebody to do that :)
[20:39] <RahulAN> Habbie, Great to know that :) I am blocked some where in mmu mapping
[20:39] <Choscura> mmu mapping?
[20:40] <RahulAN> Choscura, Yes .. at the time enabling MMU
[20:41] <Choscura> eh? I'm not sure I get the context
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[20:42] <Habbie> Choscura, haiku is an OS
[20:42] <Habbie> Choscura, the kernel is not fully ported to pi yet
[20:42] <Habbie> Choscura, does that help?
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[20:43] <Choscura> sure does, it looks like somebody's doing driver programming now, lol
[20:44] <Habbie> if you consider CPU/MMU management a driver, sure :)
[20:44] <Choscura> eh, it's a hardware device, that's drivers
[20:44] <Choscura> ;)
[20:44] <Habbie> :)
[20:45] <RahulAN> Habbie, Choscura Yes ..!!
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[20:45] <RahulAN> well i am hanged at asm volatile("MCR p15, 0, %[c1in], c1, c0, 0"::[c1in] "r" (value));
[20:46] <RahulAN> http://xref.plausible.coop/source/xref/haiku/src/system/boot/arch/arm/arch_mmu.cpp#208
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[20:46] <Choscura> what's that % pointing at?
[20:46] <Choscura> is that a pointer as it seems to be/call by reference/call by location?
[20:46] <RahulAN> Choscura, Yes i think so ..!! not sure
[20:46] <Choscura> %[variablevariable]
[20:47] <Choscura> RahulAN, you know pointers, right?
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[20:47] <Choscura> this deep in the ocean where all the fish have lights on you must... right?
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[20:47] <RahulAN> Choscura, Yes got you r point .. Well i am not sure where is it pointing to , actually
[20:48] <RahulAN> Choscura, I am reffering http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.arm.doc.ddi0360f/CHDGIJFB.html
[20:49] <RahulAN> 5.4.1. Enabling the MMU
[20:50] <Budgii> Choscura, Habbie. I bought a case for Raspberry Pi, didn't know was not included. Got this one! https://www.amazon.com/iUniker-Raspberry-Case-Heatsink-Model/dp/B01LXSMY1N/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1523206724&sr=1-4&keywords=Raspberry+pi+3+B%2B+case&dpID=41wqQnIL7NL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch
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[20:51] <Choscura> hey, cool! that'll look great if you mount it like a picture or something.
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[20:51] <Habbie> RahulAN, %[c1in] simply gets the value argument from the function
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[20:51] <Choscura> RahulAN, grokking
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[20:51] <Choscura> I think Habbie beat me there but still grokking
[20:52] <RahulAN> Habbie, But i don't find any reference of c1in
[20:52] <Habbie> RahulAN, c1in is defined at the end of the line
[20:52] <Habbie> RahulAN, as taking the value of 'value'
[20:53] <Choscura> hang on
[20:53] <Choscura> this is arm11
[20:53] <RahulAN> Habbie, You mean c1in have the value of value
[20:53] <Choscura> if we're talking about pi's, isn'th that arm7?
[20:53] <Habbie> RahulAN, yes
[20:53] <Habbie> Choscura, pi2 and up, yes
[20:53] <Habbie> no, hold on
[20:54] <RahulAN> Choscura, You mean the refer doc is wrong :(
[20:54] <Habbie> pi1 is arm11 and armv6
[20:54] <Habbie> pi2 is arm-a53 and armv7
[20:54] <RahulAN> Habbie, And Pi2 ?
[20:54] <Habbie> pi3 is armv8
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[20:55] <Habbie> ok again; pi1 is armv6/arm11; pi2 (before rev 1.2) is armv7/cortex-a7; pi3 is armv8/cortex-a53
[20:55] <Choscura> is it just the b+ that's an 8? I thought for sure it was a 7
[20:55] <Habbie> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi#Specifications
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[20:56] <RahulAN> Habbie, it means i am linked with wrong documentation ??
[20:56] <Habbie> RahulAN, for a pi1, you are in the right documentation
[20:56] <RahulAN> I need to read about cortex a-7
[20:56] <Habbie> RahulAN, for 2 or 3, i am unsure
[20:57] <RahulAN> Habbie, I need for p1 2
[20:57] <Habbie> then you should get cortex docs i think
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[21:03] <RahulAN> Habbie, I think this is the one http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.arm.doc.subset.cortexa.cortexa7/index.html
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[21:03] <Habbie> seems likely
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[21:10] <binaryhermit> I think they switcheed the pi2 to the pi3's cpu, just underclocked
[21:10] <binaryhermit> so you might have A53 instead of A7
[21:10] <RahulAN> Habbie, Looks like value is going wrong
[21:11] <Habbie> binaryhermit, rev 1.2, yes
[21:11] <Habbie> RahulAN, hmm?
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[21:11] <RahulAN> Habbie, I hardcodded the value to 0 it showed welcome to bootloader :D
[21:11] <Habbie> RahulAN, i do not follow
[21:12] <RahulAN> I need to investigate
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[21:22] <gusteru> hi, anyone can help me about repository for raspberry 3 with ubuntu ? thanks.
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[21:25] <Habbie> gusteru, hi, what's the problem?
[21:26] <gusteru> W: The repository 'http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian stretch InRelease' is not signed.
[21:26] <gusteru> N: Data from such a repository can't be authenticated and is therefore potentially dangerous to use.
[21:26] <gusteru> N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details.
[21:26] <Habbie> that's a raspbian repo
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[21:26] <Habbie> not a ubuntu repo
[21:27] <gusteru> ok, but I use ubuntu oin raspberry pi 3 ..
[21:27] <Habbie> then that repo does not belong in your sources.list
[21:28] <gusteru> ok, what can I do ? you know /
[21:28] <gusteru> ?
[21:28] <Habbie> remove it from your sources.list
[21:28] <gusteru> ok, and add what ?
[21:28] <Habbie> why do you want to add something?
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[21:29] <gusteru> my sources.list contain only this
[21:29] <ali1234> in order to get a kernel and boot firmware, without which the raspberry pi will not work at all
[21:29] <Habbie> gusteru, are you sure you are running ubuntu?
[21:29] <gusteru> if I leave it empty, where they read source ?
[21:30] <gusteru> hmm ..
[21:30] <gusteru> root@gusteru-pi:~# cat /etc/issue
[21:30] <gusteru> Raspbian GNU/Linux 9 \n \l
[21:30] <Habbie> so, raspbian stretch
[21:30] <Habbie> in that case do not remove the line
[21:30] <Habbie> so then we have to find out what happened to your gpg keys
[21:31] <gusteru> my source line now, is empty
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[21:31] <Habbie> can you show your sources.list?
[21:31] <Tenkawa> Habbie: its probably his clock
[21:31] <gusteru> of course
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[21:31] <Habbie> Tenkawa, oh nice hunch
[21:31] <Habbie> gusteru, and can you type 'date'?
[21:32] <gusteru> root@gusteru-pi:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:32] <gusteru> # in /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:32] <gusteru> deb http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/ stretch main contrib non-free rpi
[21:32] <gusteru> # in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/raspi.list
[21:32] <gusteru> deb http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian/ stretch main ui
[21:32] <gusteru> root@gusteru-pi:~# date
[21:32] <gusteru> duminica 8 aprilie 2018, 22:32:17 +0300
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[21:32] <Habbie> date looks good
[21:32] <Tenkawa> yeah that looks fine
[21:33] <Tenkawa> it was a thought... it has burned me a few times
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[21:33] <Habbie> gusteru, can you try disabling the broken line, running apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, and enabling the line again?
[21:33] <gusteru> I don't user my system raspberry for 2-3 months, and now I start it and want to up to date .. but .. don't work ..
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[21:34] <jamesc> has anyone ever tried to test on their home network PoisonTap?
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[21:40] <GeekDrew> can anyone recommend a case/chassis that supports an rpi3 + powerblock + power switch?
[21:42] <suttin> awww yiss This node joined a swarm as a worker.
[21:42] <Habbie> suttin, yay!
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[21:53] <gusteru> N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details.
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[21:53] <gusteru> Errors were encountered while processing:
[21:53] <gusteru> /var/cache/apt/archives/console-setup-linux_1.164_all.deb
[21:53] <gusteru> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
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[21:54] <suttin> awww yiss This node joined a swarm as a worker.
[21:54] <suttin> derp
[21:54] <suttin> wrong window
[21:54] <gusteru> Fetched 40,2 kB in 1s (36,9 kB/s)
[21:54] <gusteru> W: GPG error: http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian stretch InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9165938D90FDDD2E
[21:55] <suttin> GeekDrew: a cardboard box huehuehue
[21:55] <GeekDrew> o_o
[21:56] <Habbie> gusteru, is your disk full?
[21:56] <Tenkawa> Habbie: ooh
[21:56] <Tenkawa> didnt think about that
[21:57] <Habbie> it doesn't explain all
[21:57] <Habbie> or most, even
[21:57] <Tenkawa> true
[21:57] <Habbie> something happened -before-
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[22:00] <gusteru> no
[22:01] <gusteru> I think the repository are not good
[22:02] <Habbie> gusteru, given that you're the only one reporting this, that does not seem likely - of course we cannot rule it out
[22:03] <Tenkawa> he could try putting in a specific repo
[22:03] <Tenkawa> not the round robin
[22:03] <Habbie> worth a shot
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[22:04] <Habbie> however
[22:04] <Habbie> that key looks right
[22:04] <Tenkawa> yeah
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[22:04] <Habbie> so it really is a local problem
[22:04] <Habbie> gusteru, can you pastebin apt-key list
[22:04] <Habbie> gusteru, please?
[22:05] <Tenkawa> ca-certificates could be messed up
[22:05] <Habbie> that's not the one that matters
[22:05] <gusteru> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SQTZXs7MgZ/
[22:05] <Tenkawa> i couldnt remember
[22:05] <Tenkawa> brain is drained
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[22:06] <mijk> is there anyway to stream from the Pi? I see a lot of videos and tuts on how to streaming to it
[22:06] <gusteru> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3bDDT7pYsM/
[22:06] <Habbie> mijk, what would you like to stream from it?
[22:06] <mijk> DVD's
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[22:06] <Habbie> gusteru, .. those are the ubuntu keys
[22:07] <Habbie> gusteru, you did something weird in the past, any idea what?
[22:08] <gusteru> I have often modified repository to install some stuff ..
[22:08] <Habbie> so
[22:08] <Habbie> when you put an OS on the SD card
[22:08] <Habbie> what OS was it?
[22:08] <gusteru> ubuntu
[22:08] <Habbie> cat /etc/lsb-release
[22:09] <gusteru> root@gusteru-pi:~# cat /etc/lsb-release
[22:09] <gusteru> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
[22:09] <gusteru> DISTRIB_RELEASE=16.04
[22:09] <gusteru> DISTRIB_CODENAME=xenial
[22:09] <gusteru> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS"
[22:09] <gusteru> root@gusteru-pi:~#
[22:09] <Habbie> ok
[22:09] <Habbie> so your lsb-release says ubuntu
[22:09] <Habbie> but your issue says raspbian 9
[22:09] <Habbie> can you pastebin (a part of) dpkg -l ?
[22:09] <gusteru> sure
[22:09] <gusteru> wait a second
[22:09] <Habbie> also, dpkg -S /etc/issue
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[22:11] <gusteru> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fxzvpBmzvc/
[22:11] <gusteru> root@gusteru-pi:~# dpkg -S /etc/issue
[22:11] <gusteru> base-files: /etc/issue
[22:11] <gusteru> root@gusteru-pi:~#
[22:11] <Habbie> ok, that smells like ubuntu
[22:11] <Habbie> except a few packages
[22:11] <Habbie> like base-files
[22:12] <Habbie> it looks like you somehow managed to install a few raspbian packages on your ubuntu
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[22:12] <Habbie> so
[22:12] <Habbie> that means your sources.list should list ubuntu stuff
[22:13] <gusteru> yes ..
[22:13] <gusteru> this is my sources.list now
[22:13] <gusteru> # in /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:13] <gusteru> deb http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/ stretch main contrib non-free rpi
[22:13] <gusteru> # in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/raspi.list
[22:13] <gusteru> deb http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian/ stretch main ui
[22:13] <Habbie> that doesn't match 95% of your system
[22:13] <Habbie> it matches the other 5% though, for weird reasons
[22:13] <Habbie> you have done some bad things to your install :)
[22:14] <Tenkawa> and your keys are all messed up too
[22:14] <Habbie> Tenkawa, are they?
[22:14] <mijk> I posted a request on the forum but it was deleted
[22:14] <Tenkawa> if he updated packages with the ubuntu repo
[22:15] <Tenkawa> he can force it with dpkg though
[22:15] <Habbie> that's the kind of thing one would remember though
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[22:17] <gusteru> ok .. what can I do now to make update my system ?
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[22:28] <gusteru> ?
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[22:34] <gusteru> Habbie ? you know what I have to do to update my system ?
[22:34] <Habbie> gusteru, do you know how you got in this situation?
[22:35] <gusteru> no..
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[22:35] <Habbie> gusteru, k
[22:35] <gusteru> I've probably modified repository
[22:35] <Habbie> gusteru, so i have to guess
[22:35] <Habbie> gusteru, but i think you should restore sources.list to the ubuntu version
[22:36] <gusteru> how ? I try to restore but I don't know how
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[22:37] <Habbie> i don't have it
[22:37] <Habbie> i'm sure the internet knows
[22:38] <gusteru> i try different ways to modify this from the internet and ubuntu forums and I don't have succes
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[22:38] <gusteru> I try here for the last hope
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[22:40] <Habbie> this is a stock 16.04 sources.list, but note this is NOT from a pi: https://gist.github.com/Habbie/9bd812a9f7c1d46c7608b8452c472a63
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[22:47] <gusteru> Err:29 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security/main armhf Packages
[22:47] <gusteru> 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.149 80]
[22:47] <gusteru> E: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial-security/main/binary-armhf/Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.149 80]
[22:47] <gusteru> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[22:48] <gusteru> I try your list ..
[22:49] <Habbie> gusteru, dumb question maybe - why not just reinstall the pi?
[22:49] <gusteru> because I have too much things installed and thay make to much time to reinstall ..
[22:49] <Habbie> ok
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[22:58] <Jeena> Hi, I'd like to document how I connected stuff to the GPIOs in a graphical way, is there some UI which would make this easy for me?
[22:59] <Habbie> there's fritzing
[22:59] <Habbie> which i found a pain to use
[22:59] <Habbie> but some people are happy with it
[22:59] <Habbie> i've resorted to taking photos
[23:00] <Jeena> Ok, I'll have a look at it, thanks
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[23:59] <RaMcHiP> Hello all! I am working on a project to automate my lizard cage. I already have a box 3d printed with 4 relays attached to mains with plugs (on regular) and bash scripts to turn on and off each relay. So, I am trying to figure out how to automate everything so that even if it loses power or daylight savings time hits it knows the state and will adjust for it. I also will want to add a temp/humidity sensor to control the heating pad/ceramic
[23:59] <RaMcHiP> heater.
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