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IRC Log for 2018-04-09

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[0:01] <leftyfb> RaMcHiP: install ntp to keep your time. Create systemd unit files for your scripts to start on boot
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[0:09] <RaMcHiP> I get the NTP but I am not sure what systemd files are. I can do it with cron right now but if it reboots in the middle of the night, the lights will stay on.
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[0:11] <RaMcHiP> Holy crap, those look beyond complicated.
[0:12] <leftyfb> not really
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[0:13] <leftyfb> just look up systemd unit tutorial on google
[0:13] <leftyfb> lots of good information
[0:14] <RaMcHiP> I never thought this would be so dang difficult I think I am just going to have to stick to cron and deal with the rare time that happens
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[0:15] <rem3ndao> hi. trying to put znc bouncer to work but having problems understanding the whole setup
[0:15] <leftyfb> It's like 10 lines
[0:15] <rem3ndao> actually logged in via znc, but cannot identify, so i can't join this channel in example
[0:16] <leftyfb> RaMcHiP: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/c8jjnQzkpw/
[0:16] <GeekDrew> open a query to *status and send message help
[0:16] <leftyfb> rem3ndao: your issue has nothing to do with Raspberry Pi
[0:17] <rem3ndao> well, im setting it up in my rpi, i guesses there's someone here using it too
[0:17] <rem3ndao> is there any znc channel?
[0:17] <RaMcHiP> I cant even find an example of it being used to control relays
[0:17] <GeekDrew> rem3ndao: probably #znc or ##znc
[0:18] <leftyfb> RaMcHiP: You said you already have scripts created to control your relays
[0:18] <RaMcHiP> I do.
[0:19] <RaMcHiP> Bash Scripts
[0:19] <leftyfb> great. so what's the issue again?
[0:19] <leftyfb> you're halfway there. Now just copy and paste what I gave you into a new systemd unit, enable it, start it and your script is running
[0:20] <rem3ndao> it is prohibited that i ask for someone here using rpi for znc bouncer?? there's only 3 people in that channel
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[0:20] <leftyfb> rem3ndao: there'd 1044 people in #znc
[0:20] <rem3ndao> let me double check. mog
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[0:21] <rem3ndao> thank you leftyfb
[0:21] <RaMcHiP> I have 8 scripts and all they do is turn each relay on and off.
[0:22] <leftyfb> RaMcHiP: so there's no intelligence in the scripts to turn things on and off?
[0:22] <RaMcHiP> I need them to be turned on and off at a specific time but I want it to ignore daylight savings
[0:22] <RaMcHiP> correct, I can find literally 0 examples of it..
[0:22] <leftyfb> RaMcHiP: first, you can do all of this with 1 script
[0:23] <RaMcHiP> I mean I can use cron to trigger each script at a certain time but that doesnt account for daylight savings nor can it tell if it rebooted during the night.
[0:23] <RaMcHiP> I am sure I can but I dont have the examples or capability of doing it. That is what I am looking for is an example.
[0:23] <leftyfb> RaMcHiP: what do you mean account for daylight savings? If clocks get turned back/forward, NTP will take care of that
[0:24] <ali1234> " I want it to ignore daylight savings" cron doesn't do this
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[0:24] <ali1234> systemd does, you just specify the timezone
[0:24] <RaMcHiP> well say daylight savings time hits its still going to shut off at 8 oclock which is an hour off
[0:24] <GeekDrew> or you can set your system time to UTC, which is never adjusted.
[0:24] <ali1234> you mean local time
[0:25] <ali1234> system time is always UTC on linux
[0:25] <GeekDrew> yes, obviously that's what i meant
[0:25] <leftyfb> RaMcHiP: I find it hard to believe you can't find examples on controlling relays by a timer. Did you bother looking? https://makezine.com/2014/02/06/using-raspberry-pi-as-a-lamp-timer/
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[0:25] <ali1234> that example uses cron
[0:26] <leftyfb> there's over 250k results on google for "raspberry pi running relay on timer"
[0:26] <ali1234> leftyfb: chill dude :)
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[0:28] <ali1234> you need two files to do this in systemd. a timer and a service
[0:28] <ali1234> i don't think you can combine them
[0:28] <RaMcHiP> that doesnt account for daylight savings. I want to keep it in the right timezone (central) and have it turn on and off same time 9am/9pm UTC every day. Plus I would like to be able to add a temp/humidity sensor to control a heatpad but I dont know how to do it and I have searched ALL DAY including your example for an example of someone doing this. I cant find it, I am sorry I am ignorant in this.
[0:29] <RaMcHiP> I cant do this in just a single script? I am feeling quite stupid because this HAS to be fairly simple...
[0:30] <ali1234> you also need systemd 228 or later
[0:31] <ali1234> how does the heat pad work?
[0:31] <ali1234> i mean the sensor for it
[0:31] <ali1234> that will be more tricky because you have to monitor something
[0:32] <RaMcHiP> I am literally stuck with cron or systemd? I cant just loop a script and have it doing checks on sensors and times then make actions based on those variables? I plan on using a DHT22 for that
[0:32] <ali1234> sure
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[0:33] <RaMcHiP> I cant find a single example of this and I would think this would be ALL OVER the place since people love usings pis for home automation...
[0:34] <ali1234> it is but nobody ever does it properly
[0:34] <ali1234> i see so many buggy programs
[0:34] <ali1234> i feel sorry for all the fish etc that rely on such terrible code for life support
[0:35] <RaMcHiP> That is kinda how I feel about it. I am trying to think of contingencies that could go wrong and I poked about 30 holes in my cronjob idea... Systemd looks like a rats nest.
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[0:35] <RaMcHiP> I am functionally retarded with python
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[0:35] <RaMcHiP> And I think that is probably my best route but I have no examples to even build off of
[0:36] <ali1234> break the system down into functional parts
[0:36] <ali1234> implement each one separately
[0:36] <RaMcHiP> I normally do but there is SO MUCH conflicting info on linux
[0:37] <RaMcHiP> And it all depends on build all depends on kernel all depends on version all depends on the alignment of the sun moon and stars LOL
[0:38] <ali1234> that's why you use stable distributions like debian/raspbian instead of arch :)
[0:39] <ali1234> the thing about controlling relays is that when you turn them on/off is somewhat less important then when they are supposed to be on/off
[0:39] <ali1234> that's why cron is not a great solution
[0:40] <ali1234> if the system is off when the relay off is supposed to fire, it gets skipped
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[0:40] <RaMcHiP> I think I am just going to have to learn python
[0:41] <RaMcHiP> start from scratch :/
[0:41] <RaMcHiP> normally I reverse engineer examples and modify to my needs but I just cant find one....
[0:41] <RaMcHiP> I am not really so hot with object oriented either. I am a scripter :/
[0:42] <ali1234> unfortunately this isn't a problem for which regular scripting is suitable
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[0:43] <leftyfb> RaMcHiP: the link I gave you does exactly what you want
[0:43] <ali1234> it does it so badly though
[0:44] <leftyfb> it does it better than the example he's working from at the moment
[0:45] <RaMcHiP> How? I dont see any time, I dont see any on/off, I dont see any DHT22 sensor queries, all that will do is launch a bash script at startup it looks like and keep it running.. I dont have a bash script with the logic so its essentially useless to me.
[0:46] <ali1234> he means this which uses cron https://makezine.com/2014/02/06/using-raspberry-pi-as-a-lamp-timer/
[0:46] <ali1234> which is a bad solution for reasons you already stated
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[0:47] <RaMcHiP> I am not using that example. I avoided that example for pretty obvious reasons...
[0:47] <ali1234> however, doing it properly is not simple
[0:47] <leftyfb> what's the obvious reasons again?
[0:47] <RaMcHiP> Yeah, I am starting to see that..
[0:47] <leftyfb> it's called starting somewhere
[0:47] <ali1234> leftyfb: if the pi resets at 8PM the light doesn't turn on and your fish die
[0:47] <RaMcHiP> I have stated them several times.
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[0:47] <leftyfb> ali1234: that's something you add on later
[0:47] <GeekDrew> leftyfb: starting in a bad place is worse than not starting, when anything's welfare is involved
[0:48] <leftyfb> you don't throw this at the animals to start with, it's called prototyping
[0:48] <RaMcHiP> I would be better off leaving my mechanical timers in place...
[0:48] <ali1234> quite possibly. simplest solution is sometimes the best
[0:49] <RaMcHiP> well I dont see anyway that I could mod systemd to EVER accomplish the full requirements of the prototype... So once again, its useless for this prototypes parameters..
[0:49] <ali1234> prototyping a bad solution serves no purpose if you already know why it is bad
[0:49] <BurtyB> but if the power goes out your fish dies too ;)
[0:49] <ali1234> BurtyB: not if it comes back on 1 minute later. unless you used cron
[0:49] <RaMcHiP> Nah, I didnt just spend 10 hours building this thing to not use it LOL
[0:50] <RaMcHiP> time to learn python. I think that is literally my only route.
[0:50] <leftyfb> RaMcHiP: you are dead wrong .... but it's ok. You're not willing to put in the effort to accomplish your goal anyway. Do I won't bother any further
[0:50] <ali1234> systemd can absolutely do it, it is just kind of complex
[0:50] <leftyfb> Do/So
[0:50] <RaMcHiP> can systemd do dht22 readings as well?
[0:50] <ali1234> no
[0:50] <RaMcHiP> so its pointless for the end goal of the project...
[0:50] <leftyfb> RaMcHiP: there is no single magic script that will do everything you have in your head
[0:51] <ali1234> that part would be better served by a daemon, which systemd will manage for you
[0:51] <RaMcHiP> Why not a python script and use systemd to keep it running?
[0:51] <ali1234> that's what a daemon is
[0:51] <RaMcHiP> :)
[0:51] <leftyfb> :/
[0:51] <RaMcHiP> well then I need to make me a daemon!
[0:51] <RaMcHiP> thanks for the term I am looking for :D
[0:51] <leftyfb> also known as a script
[0:52] <RaMcHiP> well thats more my territory :D
[0:52] <ali1234> yes. luckily that is made much simpler if you use systemd to manage it
[0:52] <leftyfb> like the one I linked you to (to start) and run it with the systemd unit I wrote for you and posted
[0:52] <RaMcHiP> that is what I am thinking
[0:52] <ali1234> since you don't have to worry about the classic unix thing of forking and closing stdin/stdout/stderr
[0:52] <RaMcHiP> just a looping script that has a main loop and sets the initial states based on the time at the time of startup...
[0:53] <ali1234> i wouldn't mix all functionality into one program. it will make it more complicated
[0:53] <ali1234> although it is cetainly possible
[0:53] <leftyfb> it's really not that complicated
[0:54] <ali1234> it is for someone who has never written a long runing daemon before
[0:54] <ali1234> and no that's not the same as a script
[0:54] <RaMcHiP> so basically if time is < 8am at startup then turn relay 1 off. then just a main loop that checks dht22 turns heater on/off based on temp and checks time and turns relay on/off based on time...
[0:54] <ali1234> what type of relays are you using? how are they controlled?
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[0:55] <RaMcHiP> ali1234, is this a good start for me to work from? http://web.archive.org/web/20131017130434/http://www.jejik.com/articles/2007/02/a_simple_unix_linux_daemon_in_python/
[0:56] <leftyfb> RaMcHiP: I built all this on the original Pi with an arduino doing the exact same thing. This was before systemd even existed. You work on 1 piece at a time
[0:56] <ali1234> nooooo
[0:56] <ali1234> don't follow that guide. that is the classic unix stuff i said you don't need
[0:56] <ali1234> with systemd you can ignore that completely
[0:56] <RaMcHiP> OK
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[0:56] <RaMcHiP> so just make a python script that does what I want and then use systemd to keep it stable LIKE a daemon right?
[0:57] <ali1234> right
[0:57] <RaMcHiP> Good god linux is going to be the death of me. Its like the epitome of 10,000,000 ways to skin a cat!!!
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[0:58] <RaMcHiP> So if it makes your feel better leftyfb, your code will help me ;)
[0:58] <leftyfb> ya think?
[1:01] <RaMcHiP> Well I think I just found my solution!!! https://github.com/johnwargo/raspberry-pi-relay-timer/blob/master/solar_times.py thall ignore daylight savings time!!
[1:02] <RaMcHiP> Actually even better, thatll give my lizard PERFECT SUNRISE/SUNSET times!! FCK YEAH!!
[1:02] <ali1234> that library could be very useful if your goal is to simulate natural light
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[1:03] <ali1234> beware that it relies on an external website though
[1:03] <ali1234> if that website goes down it will break
[1:03] <ali1234> or if internet goes down
[1:04] <RaMcHiP> yeah I see that :/
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[1:04] <RaMcHiP> but dang thats nice!
[1:04] <RaMcHiP> I bet I can use PVwatts API for that! That is govt so should never go down. I can also create an array for like the next 10 years :D
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[1:05] <RaMcHiP> Now I want to make it a dimmer with like a 30 minute ramp up at sunrise and a 30 minute ramp down at sun set
[1:05] <RaMcHiP> THAT would be noice..
[1:05] <RaMcHiP> OK this is giving me ideas and I found an example I think I can figure this out and merge it!
[1:06] <RaMcHiP> Wish me luck
[1:06] <leftyfb> https://www.flickr.com/photos/leftyfb/8324621962/in/dateposted-public/
[1:06] <leftyfb> that's a saltwater fishtank in an old imac. It ran off the original pi and an arduino
[1:07] <GeekDrew> RaMcHiP: if it were me, i'd check the API periodically, make sure the answer is valid, and then write it to disk if it varies significantly from the current value on disk. that way if the API becomes unavailable or etc., the value on disk would still be reasonably sane, and available.
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[1:08] <RaMcHiP> Good idea!
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[1:13] <RaMcHiP> does a python script with #!/usr/bin/python execute the same as a bash .sh file through systemd? like I can still do ./lighstemphumidity.py and it'll execute right?
[1:13] <ali1234> yes
[1:13] <leftyfb> RaMcHiP: I would put /usr/bin/python /full/path/to/lightstemphumidity.py
[1:14] <ali1234> i would too
[1:14] <ali1234> also i would use python3
[1:14] <RaMcHiP> I think mine is 2. I am assuming 3 is more stable for my purposes which is why your suggesting it?
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[1:14] <RaMcHiP> OK its grind time. I have a shit ton to learn
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[1:14] <ali1234> no it is just a better language
[1:15] <RaMcHiP> I am excited about this though, this is going to be an epic lizard cage after this!! I have a castle grayskull theme going on with black everything.
[1:19] <RaMcHiP> so I have to compile 3.5 right?
[1:19] <RaMcHiP> no package yet?
[1:20] <ali1234> no, it works fine
[1:20] <RaMcHiP> wait, it says its manually installed :/ Hmmmmmmm OK
[1:20] <RaMcHiP> python3.5 set to manually installed.
[1:20] <RaMcHiP> so that means I have it I guess
[1:20] <RaMcHiP> how do I check my python version or dictate which version I need to use?
[1:21] <ali1234> run python3
[1:21] <erm3nda> python -V better, no need to exit() or ctrl+c
[1:21] <erm3nda> uppercase -V
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[1:21] <ali1234> python3 -V
[1:21] <erm3nda> rpi comes with default 2.7 yes
[1:22] <erm3nda> and extra 3
[1:22] <erm3nda> anyone of you did compiled 3.6?
[1:22] <erm3nda> i might thy because i need it
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[1:24] <rem3ndao> erm3nda, weo
[1:24] <rem3ndao> perfecto, sale verdesito
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[1:26] <RaMcHiP> OK nother noob question. How do I install the pytz package? it tries to import it but I get an "E: Unable to locate package pytz
[1:26] <RaMcHiP> " error
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[1:30] <r3> you could try 'sudo aptitude search pytz' but when I tried it, it didn't find any package by that name.
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[1:30] <RaMcHiP> I found it. Now I am trying to figure out howto use easy install so I can install it. cli doesnt find it. apt-get doesnt find it. I feel like a dog chasing its tail in linux.
[1:30] <RaMcHiP> https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pytz
[1:31] <r3> easy, there are install instructions on that page.
[1:31] <RaMcHiP> I have tried them except the egg
[1:31] <r3> be sure that the version of python you're using matches the version that package is built for
[1:31] <RaMcHiP> which still requires easy install which I guess I dont have
[1:32] <r3> then tarball looks like a good choice
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[1:33] <RaMcHiP> http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/EasyInstall#using-easy-install
[1:33] <RaMcHiP> then I find this which seems to be absolutely 0 help.
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[1:33] <RaMcHiP> *facepalm*
[1:36] <r3> don't know why they can't use something like pip to install it if it is just a library?
[1:36] <ali1234> if it uses easy_install it is probably an ancient python 2 library
[1:36] <r3> ah, I have no knowledge of that tool
[1:37] <ali1234> pip3 works fine
[1:37] <RaMcHiP> easy install requires atleast 2.4
[1:37] <r3> so, RaMcHiP, be sure you even need it?
[1:37] <ali1234> i just installed it
[1:37] <r3> oh. Nevermind me then.
[1:37] <RaMcHiP> how?
[1:37] <RaMcHiP> I am on raspbian\
[1:37] <ali1234> pip3 install pytz
[1:37] <r3> yeah see I knew there had to be a way to use pip
[1:38] <RaMcHiP> LOL I dont have pip3 ROFLMAO
[1:38] <ali1234> apt install python3-pip
[1:38] <r3> *if* you're using python 3, RaMcHiP
[1:38] <RaMcHiP> I think I am going to
[1:39] <RaMcHiP> I feel like a straight up moron right now
[1:39] <RaMcHiP> every single time I try something its just failure
[1:39] <RaMcHiP> I thought this was going to be relatively simple...
[1:39] <ali1234> python 2 is deprecated and will EOL in less than 2 years
[1:39] <r3> Python 3.x is the present and future of the language, so I would suggest starting with it
[1:39] <RaMcHiP> yeah
[1:39] <RaMcHiP> if I can even get anything setup to begin using it LOL
[1:39] <r3> and without failure we would never learn anything new, so don't get discouraged
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[1:40] <RaMcHiP> after about 11 hours of persistent failure with no end in sight I am a lil discouraged and frustrated not gunna lie...
[1:40] <r3> well then take a break, it's not going anywhere
[1:40] <RaMcHiP> It took me about 1 hour to get to the point of having working bash scripts but a way to automate them seems absolutely elusive in linux
[1:41] <r3> automate bash scripts? Why not cron?
[1:41] <RaMcHiP> id like to get to a point of having atleast sunrise and sunset times so I can feel like I accomplished SOMETHING today LOL
[1:41] <ali1234> oh no
[1:41] <RaMcHiP> LOL
[1:41] <ali1234> because cron sucks, that's why
[1:41] <r3> seems to me you just need to install python3, and pip, and then your library.
[1:42] <r3> hey, he's the one using bash scripts
[1:42] <RaMcHiP> LOL
[1:42] <RaMcHiP> I am a noob
[1:42] <RaMcHiP> I wanted to see the relays work
[1:42] <RaMcHiP> :D
[1:42] <RaMcHiP> Thats it
[1:42] <RaMcHiP> Then I wanted to figure out how to automate them. Bash scripts were a victory.
[1:42] <r3> well there must be tutorials for hooking up a relay that doesn't involve bash scripts or strange python libraries
[1:43] <ali1234> you have to control it with something
[1:43] <r3> and cron is a very linuxy way to do something at a specified time. Been around forever. Why not use it. I do.
[1:43] <ali1234> i would suggest learning core python before you start playing with 3rd party modules
[1:43] <RaMcHiP> well I want them to turn on and off at a certain time each day and I want the time zone to be the right time zone and I want it to ignore daylight savings time and basically do sunrise/sunset times.
[1:44] <r3> then ignore time zones and just use UTC
[1:44] <ali1234> r3: because cron won't know the light should be on if the event is missed
[1:44] <RaMcHiP> I have some example code so if I can get my foundations my first project will be this :D
[1:44] <r3> time zones are a world of pain.
[1:44] <RaMcHiP> which is why I want this 3rd party package ;)
[1:44] <r3> no, you want to use UTC.
[1:44] <RaMcHiP> I want to keep my timezone on the pi in my time zone
[1:44] <RaMcHiP> because eventually I will be using an LCD to display information including time \
[1:45] <ali1234> timezone is totally not the problem here
[1:45] <RaMcHiP> currently it is LOL
[1:45] <r3> it solves needing to use a 3rd party library, and a host of other (future) issues.
[1:46] <ali1234> the library calculates sunrise/sunset times. it has nothing to do with timezones
[1:46] <RaMcHiP> OMG!!!! I just installed easy_install and getting a -bash: easy_install: command not found
[1:46] <RaMcHiP> *pulls hair out*
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[1:46] <ali1234> for some reason it needs pytz, i don't know why
[1:46] <ali1234> dont use easy_install you dont need it
[1:47] <RaMcHiP> I cant figure out how to install it!
[1:47] <RaMcHiP> anything
[1:47] <ali1234> pip3 install whatever
[1:47] <RaMcHiP> any way. I need a cig before my head explodes
[1:47] <r3> take a break because you're not seeing solutions already presented here.
[1:47] <RaMcHiP> yeah, I am fried. sorry guys
[1:47] <r3> ali1234 already told you how to install it. No stress. Don't worry.
[1:47] <rem3ndao> telling the world that a cig saves your head is a shit message
[1:48] <rem3ndao> sex work better
[1:48] <RaMcHiP> this has literally driven me bonkers, I never have issues doing crap like this and this is just mind blowingly difficult for some reason
[1:48] <rem3ndao> which package do you want to install?
[1:48] <RaMcHiP> I got it r3 hit nail on head
[1:48] <RaMcHiP> I am fried, need to chillax and take break :D
[1:49] <r3> oh let him have a break. If he's exploding let it go for now
[1:49] <rem3ndao> r3 saved all us on channel. thx
[1:49] <rem3ndao> :-B
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[1:53] <ahoo> hello
[1:54] <ahoo> is there a cheaper, less-hyped compact board than the raspi that runs windows 10?
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[1:55] <RaMcHiP> LOL r3 I think imploding is more accurate :). Here is the project I am working on though! https://imgur.com/a/nzT4V
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[1:55] <RaMcHiP> I gave myself 4 hours for this. Think I seriously underestimated the task. I should have known better with time zones and all :)
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[1:56] <RaMcHiP> Atleast I can turn everything on and off from the PI and it all in one nice neat package with 4 sockets all relay controlled...
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[1:59] <RaMcHiP> Woot I think I am getting this now
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[2:00] <RaMcHiP> figured out how to change header to use python3 in the script and can now install missing modules!
[2:00] <Tenkawa> brb
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[2:01] <RaMcHiP> I now have sunrise AND sunset data. I am going to take a break here and call it a day. THANS ali1234, r3 and leftyfb
[2:01] <RaMcHiP> this gives me a lil more confidence :)
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[2:05] <erm3nda> :-V
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[2:19] <erm3nda> Aph3x-WL, there?
[2:20] <erm3nda> can you help me a minute?
[2:21] <luxio> anyone here running Alpine on their Pi?
[2:21] <luxio> (the distro, not the email client)
[2:21] <erm3nda> no, but maybe you can help me in the meanwhile
[2:22] <erm3nda> i just need someone who queries me when i left. i am testing a bouncer
[2:22] <erm3nda> do you can?
[2:23] <Aph3x-WL> erm3nda: ?
[2:23] <erm3nda> hi Aph3x-WL
[2:23] <erm3nda> can you send me pm query in around 30 seconds? testing bouncer
[2:23] <erm3nda> want to know if bouncer sends me query from reg channel
[2:23] <erm3nda> ok?
[2:24] <Aph3x-WL> ok
[2:24] <erm3nda> ok, closing client right now
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[2:27] <erm3nda> Aph3x-WL, now i know bouncer runs ok, just needed backlog. ALL backlog. seems i have to build a znc-backlog module first :-) but i am wondering why only keeps 150 lines when it's obvious that bouncer can save my private queries
[2:27] <erm3nda> Aph3x-WL, did u see any disconnection message from this channel for me?
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[2:28] <erm3nda> i do suspect that sasl only works when i am logged into bouncer
[2:28] <erm3nda> and private queries went over server and not over channel at all
[2:29] <erm3nda> Aph3x-WL, if you confirm that you saw me as connected even when i leaved, all is fine
[2:29] <erm3nda> i don't have 2 reg usernames to test
[2:30] <Voop> what is "raspberry pi desktop"?
[2:30] <GeekDrew> erm3nda: you did not disconnect
[2:30] <erm3nda> ok, thank you
[2:31] <erm3nda> now i have to know why is not autoentering when it should, but at least the main setup is ok. many thanks
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[2:52] <RaMcHiP> Hmmmm cant pip for module optionparser
[2:52] <RaMcHiP> or optparse
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[2:53] <cheekio> uh
[2:53] <cheekio> what a ban list
[2:53] <RaMcHiP> I even added https://svn.python.org/projects/python/trunk/Lib/optparse.py to /home/pi/.local/lib/python3.5/site-packages/optparse.py
[2:53] <RaMcHiP> and am still getting cannot import name 'optionparser'
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[2:54] <cheekio> I thought optionparse was a builtin
[2:54] <cheekio> you using python 2 or python 3?
[2:54] <RaMcHiP> 3
[2:54] <RaMcHiP> lemme get rid of include
[2:55] <cheekio> That could be the source of the problem
[2:55] <cheekio> https://docs.python.org/2/library/optparse.html
[2:55] <cheekio> `Deprecated since version 2.7: The optparse module is deprecated and will not be developed further; development will continue with the argparse module.
[2:55] <cheekio> nvm, my python3 has it
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[2:56] <cheekio> python3 -c 'import optparse; print(optparse.__file__);' >> /usr/lib/python3.5/optparse.py
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[2:57] <cheekio> I'm butching the hell out of an interview question atm
[2:57] <RaMcHiP> well dang this example I found uses relay and relay uses optparse so I am going to have to rewrite this.
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[2:57] <RaMcHiP> I think I get everything going on and I will just have to replace the relay with GPIO writes
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[2:57] <RaMcHiP> Atleast I have a good start now :D
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[3:11] <Voop> formatted an sd card and wrote raspbian to it via the terminal
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[3:11] <Voop> as per online instructions. now the sd card doesnt show up
[3:11] <Voop> what do
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[3:12] <suttin> Doesn't show up where? Does it show up via lsblk?
[3:12] <leftyfb> Voop: you do not need to format an SD card if you're going to just image it with a disk image
[3:13] <leftyfb> Voop: how did you write raspbian to the sd card?
[3:13] <Voop> uhh
[3:14] <Voop> i just copy and paste commands
[3:14] <leftyfb> which commands?
[3:14] <Aph3x-WL> erm3nda: i have joins/parts disabled so i didn't see anything
[3:14] <suttin> What does lsblk show
[3:14] <Voop> sudo dd bs=1M if=" etc
[3:15] <leftyfb> Voop: that is not a valid command
[3:15] <erm3nda> Aph3x-WL, other user asked me hours ago, dont worry :D
[3:15] <leftyfb> Voop: got the actual command you wrote?
[3:15] <erm3nda> answered me, omg
[3:16] <Voop> sudo dd bs=1M if="/home/bob/Documents/raspbian.img" of=/dev/sdb1
[3:16] <erm3nda> <Voop> i just copy and paste commands --> cool, i have some for you
[3:16] <Aph3x-WL> was afk >.>
[3:16] <erm3nda> no need to quote if="" if there's no spaces on it, you can use TAB key to autocomplete names
[3:16] <erm3nda> bs= is not obblied to use, i never used it
[3:17] <leftyfb> Voop: is "raspbian.img" the name of the image? If it is, where did you get it because the official images aren't named that
[3:17] <erm3nda> if you add status=progress you'll know how is going the process
[3:17] <leftyfb> erm3nda: bs= is fine
[3:17] <Voop> i renamed it for ease of typing
[3:17] <erm3nda> leftyfb, what? i said i never add bs=<count>
[3:18] <leftyfb> Voop: you do not write the image to a partition. You write it to the whole sd card
[3:18] <Voop> the process ended and said
[3:18] <Voop> 1772+0 records in
[3:18] <Voop> 1772+0 records out
[3:18] <Voop> 1858076672 bytes (1.9 GB, 1.7 GiB) copied, 167.516 s, 11.1 MB/s
[3:18] <Voop> so sdb1 is a partition?
[3:18] <erm3nda> leftyfb, it used sdb1 which is a device not a partition
[3:18] <leftyfb> Voop: you write the image to a partition. That's not how this works. Write it to sdb. Not sdb1
[3:18] <leftyfb> erm3nda: sdb1 is a partition, not a device
[3:19] <erm3nda> mmm
[3:19] <erm3nda> true, a,b,c are devices
[3:19] <erm3nda> 1,2,3 partitions
[3:19] <Voop> lets try that
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[3:19] <erm3nda> btw, mmcblocks had numbers for devices
[3:19] <leftyfb> Voop: step #1, make sure the sd card is not mounted. Type: mount
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[3:20] <leftyfb> erm3nda: correct, like mmcblk0
[3:20] <leftyfb> partitions for those are usually something like mmcblk0p1
[3:20] <erm3nda> yes, i fucked all my laptop using wrong number :S yesterday
[3:20] <leftyfb> erm3nda: please watch the language
[3:20] <erm3nda> trying to write rpi image to sdcard, i was wrong
[3:20] <erm3nda> i watch
[3:20] <erm3nda> how do you call to destroy your whole system?
[3:20] <erm3nda> i guess then you're admin on that channel
[3:21] <leftyfb> erm3nda: this is a family friendly channel
[3:21] <erm3nda> worrying children to say my words, when actual childrens can get all they want on internet :D
[3:21] <erm3nda> but ok
[3:21] <erm3nda> ¬¬
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[3:22] <leftyfb> erm3nda: please see the rules link in the topic for further information
[3:22] <erm3nda> okok ok
[3:25] <erm3nda> i can't agree with people who think that all people must talk as they. family friendly is ok, but warning people the first time they say something you dont agree is not really ok. this happened to me in the past. overprotection is bs
[3:25] <erm3nda> but ill try to care about
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[3:36] <Voop> leftyfb: resorted to windows
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[3:36] <leftyfb> huh?
[3:36] <Zardoz> erm3nda: its not necessary about the children. some people take much offence to it. also it's just not nice to drop f bombs in a public forum.
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[3:37] <erm3nda> Zardoz, so, family friendly stands for old people who may be scary. don't worry i ll care even if i dont agree
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[3:38] <RaMcHiP> can someone tell me what I am doing wrong with syntax on line 131 here? https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/6nvmj64g9t/
[3:38] <RaMcHiP> File "./automation", line 131
[3:38] <RaMcHiP> GPIO.output(LIGHT_PIN, 0)
[3:38] <RaMcHiP> ^
[3:38] <RaMcHiP> TabError: inconsistent use of tabs and spaces in indentation
[3:38] <erm3nda> RaMcHiP, i think you're mixing spaces and tabs
[3:38] <erm3nda> use any editor who can convert it by a click
[3:39] <Zardoz> thats fine. do me a favor go to a cort house and drop some f bombs let me know how that go's ;P
[3:39] <Zardoz> RaMcHiP: sorry :P
[3:39] <erm3nda> Zardoz, ur underestimating me, but better for me :-B
[3:40] <RaMcHiP> yup your right I tabbed those lines in must use spaces
[3:40] <RaMcHiP> thanks
[3:40] <Zardoz> erm3nda: :P
[3:40] <erm3nda> RaMcHiP, it's written in the message. you can use only one type, spaces or tabs
[3:40] <erm3nda> RaMcHiP, depending on your client you can configure it to fix and convert eveything for you
[3:40] <erm3nda> client -> editor
[3:41] <erm3nda> Zardoz, fyi i was banned more than twice for the same reason, and i am still here
[3:41] <erm3nda> but it's okay, peace...
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[3:44] <Voop> swearing is bad. there could be children here
[3:45] <Voop> and everyone knows what comes after swearing; crack
[3:45] <RaMcHiP> AWWWWW YEAH! I think I got this!!!!
[3:45] <erm3nda> Voop, yes, and girls ...
[3:45] <erm3nda> alert -> joke detected
[3:45] <Zardoz> WARNING!
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[3:46] <Voop> how come when i write the image to sd in windows it doesnt give me any problems
[3:46] <Voop> but in linux i have to type 100 commands and it still doesnt work
[3:48] <HrdwrBoB> ...
[3:48] <HrdwrBoB> because you have no idea what you're doing
[3:49] <RaMcHiP> r3, thanks for the suggestions man. I found an older example that did half of what I wanted it to do. Modified it to use GPIO instead of relay and am working on the time on/off slots now but it appears to be working!!
[3:50] <RaMcHiP> Its pulling the times and it knows the state of the relay so I think I am set!
[3:50] <r3> I use ddrescue to write sd card images. apt-get install gddrescue is the one you want. Simple, one line.
[3:50] <r3> RaMcHiP: I didn't do anything. But I'm glad it is working for you!
[3:51] <RaMcHiP> it was you that got me on 3.5 and showed me how to install modules through pip, it was standard programming and debugging from there :D
[3:51] <r3> just be careful of the voltages when dealing with the GPIO. They are forgiving, but not to be used heavily. I would still use a relay with GPIO pins
[3:51] <RaMcHiP> Ohhh they are
[3:51] <RaMcHiP> I have 4 relays
[3:52] <r3> good good, folks seem to think they can just hook anything up to the GPIO all willy-nilly ;)
[3:52] <RaMcHiP> and those are hooked to mains and controlled by GPIO pins. Everything is protected
[3:52] <RaMcHiP> No no no, I not that noob
[3:52] <RaMcHiP> I got a relay board with diode protection and all
[3:52] <RaMcHiP> I think this is going to turn out REALLY nice though!
[3:52] <r3> sounds good! now take a break. ;)
[3:53] <RaMcHiP> in the past hour or so I got about 80% of the coding frankensteined together
[3:53] <RaMcHiP> Nope, now I am on a role
[3:53] <RaMcHiP> roll
[3:53] <RaMcHiP> if I stop now I will forget where I was LOL
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[3:53] <r3> then you can document it, throw it on github, share and pay it forward, because I am sure there is someone else out there who would like to do what you're doing
[3:54] <r3> heh, cheers :) Back to movie night with the Mrs.
[3:54] <Voop> could someone remind me of the default address for ssh
[3:55] <Voop> its something like pi@raspberry
[3:55] <RaMcHiP> r3 here is pretty much final code just need to workout the slots and I am set https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/DGVt6smnPN/
[3:56] <Voop> figured it out
[3:56] <erm3nda> pi@raspberrypi i guess
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[3:59] <learningc> How can I connect the ov7670 camera module to my raspberry pi 3?
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[4:11] <Voop> when you ssh into a pi it says in green yourusername@raspberrypi
[4:11] <Voop> how do you change the raspberrypi part of that
[4:12] <Voop> oh, its the hostname. got it
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[4:20] <suttin> Hostnamectl is the command to change that voop.
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[5:34] <K0SHD> hello
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[5:35] <K0SHD> I have a network issue: try to even ping host and get a "no route to host" error
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[8:25] <victor2> hello, everyone
[8:26] <victor2> I have a problem... is anyone aware of FreeNove Starter Kit for RPi?
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[8:31] <Robdgreat> victor2: it doesn't appear as though anyone paying attention is. You can still try asking your real question anyway
[8:36] <victor2> well, here's the deal... currently I have my RPi connected to my TV/Keyboard/Mouse. It'd be nice to be able to Remote Desktop into it
[8:37] <victor2> I have installed XRDP and TIGHTVNCSERVER... can anyone give me a better idea of what each one is and does? Also, how do and why do these two need to be used to RD (Remote Desktop) into the RPi?
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[8:39] <CoJaBo> victor2: They're both different protocols that do basically the same thing
[8:39] <CoJaBo> VNC seems to be the more commonly-used one
[8:42] <victor2> hmmmm basically?
[8:42] <victor2> any differences? what do you mean by protocols?
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[8:45] <CoJaBo> victor2: RDP is usually more microsoft-specific
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[8:46] <CoJaBo> So I'd imagine VNC probably has better support, since it didn't start out tied to only one OS
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[8:58] <mlelstv> VNC is also simpler, less features but maybe less problems too.
[9:02] <victor2> great thanks! I'm following the Freenove PDF and it doesn't explain any of that... since I'm working between two linux computers I'll focus on VNC then... however, will using VNC help me have remote access to the RPi?
[9:02] <victor2> and if so, how can I do that?
[9:02] <victor2> great thanks! I'm following the Freenove PDF and it doesn't explain any of that... since I'm working between two linux computers I'll focus on VNC then... however, will using VNC help me have remote access to the RPi?
[9:03] <CoJaBo> victor2: VNC will give you a remote GUI, yes
[9:03] <CoJaBo> If you want commandline, use SSH
[9:04] <CoJaBo> SSH can also be used to forward VNC connections over the internet securely, if you ever needed to do that
[9:04] <victor2> I have been doing SSH... but if I have remote GUI could I not just open a terminal in the RPi?
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[9:13] <ground> Would post this to the forums but capcha. Thanks to the people that found this fix for the 3b+ arm_freq=1200 sdram_freq=450. stable and working great after 3 days of messing about. How common is this rant?
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[9:25] <CoJaBo> victor2: you could open a terminal from the gui, sure; if it's over LAN, there shouldn't be noticable lag, but over wifi/internet SSH may be more responsive.
[9:26] <ground> My test case is a full openwrt/lede build on both RPI with the same official power supply/hub/usb hd/memory card. finishes fine on 3b. Errors on 3b+ until I underclock to the 3b settings.
[9:26] <mlelstv> how does it 'error' ?
[9:27] <ground> Kernel oops, no more access to USB.
[9:27] <CoJaBo> same error every time?
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[9:29] <ground> So many errors happen it's hard to capture the first all important one.
[9:29] <ground> But with the arm_freq=1200 sdram_freq=450 in config.txt no problem no issues.
[9:30] <CoJaBo> might be worth trying a diffent power cable, psu, or sdcard just to definitively rule those out
[9:30] <mlelstv> did you log the oops message somewhere?
[9:30] <CoJaBo> also check the thermal info, make sure it's not overheating; I don't think it would be, but I don't have a 3b+ of my own yet..
[9:31] <ground> Nah running at about 70 w/HS
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[9:32] <ground> But if I'm one of the few reporting this probably not a huge issue. I'm happy to run at the underclocked settings for the stability.
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[9:32] * CoJaBo runs my laptop underclocked to 800Mhz lol
[9:32] <CoJaBo> Tho for noise reasons, not stability :P
[9:33] <ground> I got my fix from the reports at https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&amp;t=208821
[9:33] <CoJaBo> ground: does the red led flicker at all?
[9:33] <ground> I think that's the same problem I've having.
[9:34] <ground> No under voltage reports in dmesg. I can't see the leds (blind) so not sure.
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[9:36] <CoJaBo> It probably is a firmware bug, power/sdcard issues usually tend to be more random. but wouldn't hurt to check to make sure if you have any spare cables/chargers/cards..
[9:38] <ground> I don't think it's that, I am using official ps. and rpi3b runs fine with same sdcard and same usb attachments.
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[9:38] <CoJaBo> I've found the cable being bad is more common than the PSU being bad
[9:39] <ground> I appreciate your help though. Don't expect you to fix it just wonder how many ppl had dropped in the channel with the ame issue.
[9:39] <CoJaBo> But it's consistant enough in that thread that I'd bet on a firmware bug..
[9:39] <ground> Yeah I agree with the person in the thread the suggested a race.
[9:40] <CoJaBo> There's a lot of people with weird issues everytime a new pi comes out. My fave so far is the camera-shy issue of the Pi2 =D
[9:41] <CoJaBo> If you photograph it, it reboots.
[9:41] <ground> In other news I transmitted with a 50 watt rf radio at 145mhz on top of my pi and it crashed.
[9:41] <ground> I'm shocked.
[9:42] <Habbie> well, not that shocked
[9:42] <CoJaBo> lol
[9:43] <CoJaBo> Dumbest way I've crashed mine is by dropping a screw onto it
[9:43] <ground> My attempt at sarcasm. Don't mind me.
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[9:44] <Habbie> ground, i got that ;)
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[9:45] <CoJaBo> I've also managed to eject the damn sdcard by bumping it only about a trillion times =D
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[9:47] <ground> Get one of those crappy cases off ebay. You'll never eject it again assuming you can install the board without breaking the case.
[9:47] <Habbie> well that doesn't work on the 3 anymore
[9:47] <Habbie> ground, but then you will lose the sd card inside the case once a week ;)
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[9:47] <CoJaBo> I keep my media-center pi in an apple pie box
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[9:48] <CoJaBo> It seems oddly fitting, and it fits oddly perfectly.
[9:48] <CoJaBo> My other ones are mostly in nail or screw boxes
[9:49] <CoJaBo> I've never bought a proper case, as I plan to print one when someday I ever decide what 3d printer I want to buy
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[10:09] <ground> The worst thing about buying the official power supply in the US... Seeing those plugs and thinking of all the shocks I would have missed out on as a child while trying to plug something with a guide finger on one of the prongs.
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[10:16] <ground> propaganda be damned. you know you're living in a backwards country when you line all those plugs up.
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[10:32] <gordonDrogon> the complaint we get in the UK is that when you stand on a plug ... it hurts!!!
[10:33] <gordonDrogon> only marginally more painful than standing on Lego though.
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[10:42] <BurtyB> wireless is the future... /me runs
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[10:58] <gordonDrogon> I'm really not sure I want to be standing in a room that's beaming out enough wireless power to run a 3Kw kettle ...
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[11:00] <poolson> WHATS UP DUDES !
[11:05] <poolson> oh dudes i finally finished my little wifi stealing ICMP tunnel device !
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[11:12] <poolson> LEMONSHARK !
[11:17] <BurtyB> gordonDrogon, heh nor me :)
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[12:18] <red9> Anyone played with AHB2/APB2 clock speed setup?
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[12:23] <Angs> I've installed a fresh raspbian image. It doesn't have /etc/rc.local file. Is it replaced with another folder?
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[12:24] <BurtyB> Angs, no idea - possibly gone tho as it no longer works as people expect
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[12:26] <Angs> do you know what else can I use to run a command at a start up?
[12:28] <BurtyB> Angs, I guess the best thing would be to make a systemd config for it, other than that you could try using @reboot in cron tho that sometimes doesn't work either
[12:29] <Angs> thanks BurtyB
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[13:00] <waveform> Angs, https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/linux/usage/systemd.md
[13:01] <Angs> waveform, thanks
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[13:19] <poolson> no rc.local ?
[13:19] <poolson> yikes
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[13:19] <poolson> im using one from march 13 and its in that
[13:19] <gordonDrogon> you can create it, as I'm sure you know, but systemd is deprecating al the rc* stuff, as I'm sure you know.
[13:22] <Habbie> rc.local works on raspbian stretch
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[14:19] <ShapeShifter499> hi
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[14:20] <ShapeShifter499> So I just got my raspberry pi 3 b+ in the mail yesterday. Should I be running a 64bit OS or 32Bit?
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[14:21] <ShapeShifter499> I was reading that it doesn't help much because the amount of ram the board has is small
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[14:22] <Habbie> ShapeShifter499, start with raspbian, it has the best support
[14:22] <Habbie> ShapeShifter499, it is 32 bit but indeed it is often not relevant
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[14:24] <ShapeShifter499> Habbie: I was looking into running arch linux arm actually. They seem to push 32Bit over 64Bit even though a 64Bit OS is available.
[14:24] <Habbie> ah
[14:24] <Habbie> i have no advice to offer
[14:24] <ShapeShifter499> Someone over there said that graphic support for 64bit is almost non-existent
[14:25] <Habbie> ah
[14:25] <gordonDrogon> so...
[14:25] <Habbie> that would not surprise me
[14:25] <gordonDrogon> stick to Raspbian.
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[14:26] <ShapeShifter499> gordonDrogon: is there anything I'd be missing by not running Raspbian?
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[14:26] <gordonDrogon> I don't know - I run raspbian, so don't know what I might be missing.
[14:30] <my123> ShapeShifter499, Raspbian is fine, if only not compiled with some optimizations to remain RPi1 compatible
[14:30] <my123> ARM64 doesn't have support for the firmware 3D, you have to use the newest GPU stack with it
[14:30] <Habbie> my123, how much do the pi1 'optimisations' hurt on pi3?
[14:31] <my123> Habbie, not too much for integer, but can take a pretty big beating for floating point
[14:31] <Habbie> ah
[14:31] <Habbie> why is that?
[14:31] <my123> (and on 64-bit mode, floating point perf is much higher again)
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[14:32] <my123> Habbie, limitation to older VFP instructions, and in 64-bit mode, NEON is IEEEfp-compatible
[14:32] <Habbie> ah
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[14:32] <Habbie> still a way better story than debian/armel, of course
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[14:33] <my123> Habbie, doesn't matter a lot as the RPi isn't supposed to be a compute demon anyway
[14:33] <Habbie> sure
[14:34] <my123> I would love to see Mathematica for RPi recompiled as arm64 tho
[14:34] <my123> one of the things that can largely benefit from it
[14:34] <RaMcHiP> r3, well I woke up to lights in the lizard cage!! I think the code worked :D
[14:35] <my123> (outside FP, gains are much lower for other workloads, as ISA optimizations to make OoO easier don't have a benefit there)
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[14:51] <ShapeShifter499> my123: Honestly I'll checkout Arch Linux Arm first.
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[14:51] <ShapeShifter499> I run Arch on some other systems and I haven't had any major issues yet
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[15:11] <r3> RaMcHiP: that's good to hear, glad it is working for you
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[15:25] <uniqdom> Hello, how can I install python-scipy in the latest Raspbian?
[15:25] <uniqdom> sudo apt-get install python3-scipy returns "Package 'python3-scipy' has no installation candidate"
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[15:26] <Habbie> what does apt-cache search scipy show?
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[15:27] <r3> you may want to 'sudo apt-get update' first
[15:27] <uniqdom> Habbie: well... an "apt-get update" did the trick.
[15:27] <Habbie> good
[15:28] <Hero1980> Hello i have this Code https://imgur.com/a/Xj96x and i want to send this Mqtt Server https://imgur.com/a/XSGpH .... what is the clientID in that Mqtt Server and where i can add the username and Password in the C Code
[15:28] <uniqdom> yep... the thing was that I had run that command earlier... maybe a reboot clears apt's cache
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[15:36] <waveform> uniqdom, nope - apt's cache is on disk (/var/lib/apt/lists) but it's possible your local mirror wasn't up to date for some reason
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[15:37] <uniqdom> ok, thanks
[15:37] <Hero1980> Hello i have this Code https://imgur.com/a/Xj96x and i want to send this Mqtt Server https://imgur.com/a/XSGpH .... what is the clientID in that Mqtt Server and where i can add the username and Password in the C Code AND Habbie Here is the Full Code https://codeshare.io/5Ql3V7
[15:38] <Habbie> Hero1980, did you mean to join #mqtt ?
[15:39] <ShapeShifter499> My goal was to run Nextcloud on my Pi 3 B+. Should I have a swap partition or file?
[15:39] <Hero1980> <Habbie> i want to publish message and subscribe message using C code with this Mqtt Server
[15:39] <ShapeShifter499> Or no swap at all. I know swap can kill SD cards
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[15:42] <gordonDrogon> ShapeShifter499, always best if you can run without swap, but there is no difference from a partition or file these days. a small file is sometimes helpful - a few 100MB.
[15:42] <waveform> swap only kills SD cards (or any medium :) if it's thrashing frequently, and if that's the case you need to stop running some things or re-configure them to reduce memory pressure anyway
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[15:43] <waveform> I'd always recommend running a server with at least a little swap just to free up some RAM for disk cache (there's usually some pages that are for all intents and purposes "unused")
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[15:53] <Hero1980> Hello can i use #include <PubSubClient.h> library with RaspberryPi
[15:53] <Habbie> Hero1980, raspbian is 99% debian
[15:53] <Habbie> Hero1980, so the answer is likely to be yes
[15:54] <Habbie> Hero1980, bt you should get help in #mqtt, not here
[15:54] <Hero1980> but this PubSubClient.h library is only fro Arduino am i right ?
[15:55] <Habbie> oh, that's possible
[15:55] <Habbie> but there are plenty of mqtt libs that work on the pi
[15:55] <Habbie> about which #mqtt will happily tell you
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[15:59] <red9> Swap is for magnetic medium. For flashmedia it's devestation.
[16:00] <red9> The Raspberry Pi is fine as a I/O platform. To use it as a heavy server that needs swap. Something else has to be done. Like USB-attached spinning rust or RAM-on-USB etc.
[16:01] <JimBuntu> "spinning rust" <-- I like it
[16:01] <red9> Well.. that's what it is ;-)
[16:01] <JimBuntu> red9, Well, it seems few understand oxidation.
[16:02] <red9> I had some ideas of lately if it's possible to make floppies, cassette tapes and low capacity HDD using sputtering of FeO2 or deposition.
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[16:04] <JimBuntu> I want to say that I doubt home-brewed ferric oxide deposition would yield reliable results, but I have also seen some pretty cool home labs.
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[16:11] <mlelstv> cigarette paper with leaf gold immitation
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[16:13] <red9> JimBuntu, Any idea how say floppy iron oxide is attached to the plastic disc?
[16:14] <r3> any suggestions on how to turn off swap on a standard raspbian install? I've seen a couple guides I think but they weren't consistent
[16:14] <JimBuntu> I imagine through some fancy methods. Oddly, I don't remember ever reading about this... no time like the present
[16:15] <red9> asfair the predecessor to IBM 305 RAMAC was done by mixing paint + iron oxide.
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[16:16] <gordonDrogon> r3, apt-get purge dphys-swapfile
[16:16] <JimBuntu> red9, So far I am only seeing that the mylar is "coated" with the oxide.... sounds like it's basically painted on
[16:17] <r3> gordonDrogon: thank you I will look into it
[16:17] <r3> then this is not enough? "sudo systemctl disable dphys-swapfile"
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[16:17] <red9> man swapoff ?
[16:18] <red9> JimBuntu, So Mylar it is?
[16:18] <red9> JimBuntu, But what makes it "stick" ? or is mylar + iron oxide sputtering enough?
[16:18] <JimBuntu> That's what I was reading, they start with mylar and then add the coating to that. I have only sourced once reference so far, looking at the footnotes
[16:19] <JimBuntu> Ok, so there are no footnotes, but more reading from various long-out-of-print materials, lol
[16:19] <red9> Of course if the particles are hot enough they ought to embedd themselves.
[16:19] <JimBuntu> Glass, Brett. "3 1/2-inch Floppy Drives," PC-Computing. August, 1990, p. 140
[16:19] <red9> Do you see which iron oxide type is used?
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[16:20] <JimBuntu> Not as of yet, simply says iron oxide.
[16:20] <mlelstv> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barium_ferrite
[16:21] <red9> btw, wikipedia mentions 60 MByte per compact cassette if QPSK + helic scan etc is used.
[16:21] <red9> (to bad one didn't exploit that..!)
[16:21] <JimBuntu> Ah, Barrium ferrite is what's used on LTOs.
[16:22] <red9> As to why floppies are interesting is because some machines needs such media to boot etc. And it's kind of hard to buye..
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[16:23] <mlelstv> it's much easier to simulate the signals to the floppy controller.
[16:23] <mlelstv> an RPI could do it :)
[16:24] <red9> I doubt the RPi could handle the realtime aspects .. :p
[16:24] <mlelstv> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVYVZ3fsesk
[16:24] <red9> It can't even deal with LocalTalk @ 230.4 kbit/s..
[16:24] <red9> Because it got UART, not USART..
[16:25] <gordonDrogon> there are a few little emulators for most old 8-bit micros to emulate their floppy drive - often having on-board CF type drives.
[16:26] <mlelstv> emulating a floppy isn't that difficult.
[16:26] <gordonDrogon> I'm keeping my 5.25" Apple II floppys in as good as condition as I can, although I know they won't last forever... there are, however, alternatives.
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[16:27] <gordonDrogon> http://unicorn.drogon.net/lode.jpg <-- must fire that up again soon...
[16:27] <Habbie> lode runner!
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[16:29] <red9> lode?
[16:29] <JimBuntu> OMGosh... the monitor on the left looks like my old xtron
[16:29] <binaryhermit> how much power does an Apple II use?
[16:30] <binaryhermit> I'm guessing less than the chromebook I'm currently on
[16:30] <red9> Re floppies. I have some thoughts on attaching a hi-speed MCU A/D the analog way to the read head in order to be able to rescue really hard to read floppies.
[16:30] <binaryhermit> and my chromebook's much faster
[16:30] <binaryhermit> 4 ARM7 cores
[16:30] <JimBuntu> about 5W for the Apple II... plus whatever monitor
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[16:30] <binaryhermit> that's better than I thought
[16:30] <JimBuntu> IIc shows as using much more at around 25W
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[16:39] <binaryhermit> when I said ARM7 I meant ARMv7
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[16:41] <uniqdom> Hey, I have a .img backup of a microSD card that had Raspbian. I have a new microSD card that seems to have less space (about 157 MB less). Now, I want to burn that .img in the new microSD, but my system (Debian Stretch) says that "The disk image is 157MB bigger than the target device". Is it safe to discard/remove/trim the latest 157MB?
[16:42] <HrdwrBoB> maybe
[16:42] <uniqdom> I know that that image has near to 6GB of the 16GB used.
[16:42] <stiv> uniqdom, you are asking if it is ok to just truncate a disk image and hope it still works? short answer: no
[16:43] <HrdwrBoB> but mounting it via loopback
[16:43] <Rickta59> * thinks about the $650 I once spent on a ST225N 20MB drive that held all my data ...
[16:43] <HrdwrBoB> changing the filesystem size
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[16:43] <HrdwrBoB> then changing the partition size
[16:43] <HrdwrBoB> then truncating it
[16:43] <gordonDrogon> the apple II was about 35W IIRC.
[16:43] <HrdwrBoB> that will work
[16:44] <uniqdom> HrdwrBoB: thanks I will try that
[16:44] <uniqdom> stiv: thanks
[16:44] <gordonDrogon> there's a lot of old LS TTL in the Apple II.
[16:44] <gordonDrogon> not to mention 64 of those precious 16Kx1 DRAM chips ...
[16:45] <binaryhermit> is that 35W without monitor or with?
[16:45] <binaryhermit> still, not as bad as I thought it was, especially if it's with monitor
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[16:46] <gordonDrogon> without.
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[16:47] <binaryhermit> yeah, the computer I'm on has a 12V2A power supply
[16:47] <binaryhermit> anyway, I'm offtopic
[16:47] <binaryhermit> so I'll shut up
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[16:52] <futurecat> Hello!
[16:52] <futurecat> Has somebody here ever managed to compile Webkit/WPE for Raspbian?
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[17:06] <DexDeadly> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/49725857/flask-flask-socketio-runtimeerror-working-outside-of-request-context any thoughts
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[17:09] <Bejjan> Hi, I'm toying around with SensorHat and I keep running into issues. Right now I'm trying to get valid readings out of the compass but the numbers are just jumping everywhere. Furthermore, octave is no longer a package available to raspbian ? Hints are much welcome
[17:09] <uniqdom> Bejjan: did you "apt-get update"?
[17:10] <Bejjan> yes
[17:10] <Bejjan> it's a fresh install, fully updated, the sensehat is also brand new
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[17:14] <Bejjan> no matter how many times i calibrate, after rotating it around all values range between 244 - 260 degrees
[17:14] <Bejjan> makes no sense to me
[17:14] <Habbie> are you holding it flat? or up straight?
[17:15] <Bejjan> tried both
[17:15] <Habbie> ok
[17:15] <r3> is there a CRT nearby? Or other magnetic sources?
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[17:16] <Bejjan> no, i compared with phones compass aswell, doesnt seem to be any notable "interference"
[17:19] <ali1234> a mems compass doesn't just point north
[17:21] <Bejjan> well i'd assume i would still get ~180 differense on value if i point it in opposit direction though
[17:22] <ali1234> you have to point it in the opposite direction and also flip it over and then it should - unless there's a big magnet attached to it (like a motor)
[17:22] <ali1234> they also have to be calibrated
[17:23] <Bejjan> 17:14 < Bejjan> no matter how many times i calibrate, after rotating it around all values range between 244 - 260 degrees
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[17:24] <Bejjan> but ok, if i'm replied to like i'm an idiot, thanks
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[17:24] <ali1234> first of all, mems compass do not output values in degrees
[17:24] <ali1234> second of all, if you calibrated it, then the values would be centred on zero, because that is the definition of what calibration is
[17:25] <ali1234> but ok, if you want to flounce out in a huff, then thanks
[17:25] <Habbie> fun
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[17:26] <stiv> ali1234, you've got me curious. what does the output look like?
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[17:26] <ali1234> stiv: a 3D vector
[17:27] <ali1234> same as an accelerometer, except it measures magnetic field strength instead of proper acceleration
[17:27] <stiv> fascinating
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[17:29] <Tenkawa> wow I almost broke my clusterpi connecting cable :(
[17:30] <Tenkawa> wasnt paying attention when i was moving it to my 3+ and had it bound up behind the eth jack and almost snapped it
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[17:32] <BurtyB> Tenkawa, is the connector still attached to the board?
[17:33] <Tenkawa> I took it all apart
[17:33] <Tenkawa> and cleaned it up
[17:33] <Tenkawa> i had "just" put it together
[17:33] <Tenkawa> thats why i notied
[17:33] <Tenkawa> er noticed
[17:33] <Tenkawa> i was doublechecking all of the connections
[17:33] <Tenkawa> and noticed it was binding
[17:34] <Tenkawa> wheew
[17:34] <Tenkawa> that wouldve been a waste
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[17:35] <Tenkawa> ahh
[17:36] <Tenkawa> uggh am I feeling up to braving the snow for lunch
[17:36] <Tenkawa> heheheh
[17:37] <red9> Pi controlled bot that drives through snow and collects the lunch? :)
[17:37] <Tenkawa> I wish
[17:38] <Tenkawa> lunchba?
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[17:38] <Tenkawa> instead of roomba
[17:38] <Tenkawa> yes I know.. sad
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[17:40] <Tenkawa> yeah I am hungry.. bbialw
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[18:57] <Tenkawa> now i just need to find a rpi3+ and cluster pi friendly case.. yeah right
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[18:58] <Arrgh> closing the loop from a couple days ago... I tried a Fedora 28 Beta image and it got decently far into booting but not nearly far enough to have confidence, I'll stick with Raspbian for awhile :)
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[19:05] <Tenkawa> anyone running a 64 bit kernel on their rpi3+ yet? if so what do you think?
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[19:08] <tautologico> I'm trying to use rpiboot with a pizero but it
[19:08] <tautologico> it is not connecting to the zero
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[19:10] <Tenkawa> tautologico: sorry cant help.. not familiar with rpiboot
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[19:11] <tautologico> Tenkawa: I see, thanks for answering. I'm trying to boot the Zero from the USB port, without using a SD card
[19:12] <Tenkawa> hang aroud a while though.. someone might know
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[19:13] <tautologico> just got it working now :)
[19:13] <Tenkawa> good
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[22:40] <Tenkawa> that test failed
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[23:28] <Voop> are the data usb pads on the pi0 supposed to have continuity
[23:28] <Voop> i think not
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[23:48] <mfa298> Voop: continuity where ?
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[23:50] <Voop> mfa298: the two data pads on the pi0
[23:50] <Voop> where the usb is
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[23:55] * immibis (~chatzilla@222-155-160-32-fibre.bb.spark.co.nz) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
[23:56] * milpool (EqLUlPwx18@ankaa.uberspace.de) has joined #raspberrypi
[23:57] * AbouEmre (~Thunderbi@196.11.87.250) Quit (Quit: AbouEmre)
[23:58] * defsdoor (~andy@cpc120600-sutt6-2-0-cust232.19-1.cable.virginm.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)

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