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IRC Log for 2018-04-13

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[0:09] <Voop> ShorTie: the gpio pin is an input
[0:09] <Voop> if it was an output yeah, it would be the trigger
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[0:09] <Voop> jumping vcc to trigger works
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[0:42] <wadadli> I copied a NetworkManager connection from my main machine onto a pi
[0:44] <wadadli> I have confirmation that NetworkManager discovered the profile, but the device hasn't connected to the access point.
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[0:56] <BurtyB> wadadli, if you're trying to setup wifi then the config would normally go in /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
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[0:58] <suttin> dang keyboard layout always gets me with the password
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[0:59] <suttin> that being said, my cluster hat looks awesome :D
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[1:10] <BurtyB> suttin, :)
[1:10] <Voop> i just write the wpa_supplicant.conf file and stick in in /boot
[1:10] <Voop> easier
[1:10] <suttin> ok i feel dumb, I cant seem to connect to the pi0s
[1:11] <Voop> one time i struggled with connecting to wifi for like 4 hours
[1:12] <Voop> turns out there was a - in the ssid i was missing
[1:13] <BurtyB> suttin, I'd check - you've plugged the usb cable in, pi zeros are pushed into connectors all the way, you ran "clusterhat on" - are the LED on the hat and/or the pi zeros?
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[1:14] <suttin> the lights are all orange, is that normal?
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[1:15] <BurtyB> suttin, they should be orange if you've ran "clusterhat on"
[1:15] <suttin> yep
[1:16] <BurtyB> suttin, are the led on the pi zeros?
[1:17] <suttin> yep
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[1:18] <suttin> i think.... my network configuration is messed up
[1:18] <suttin> also my work laptop gets an IP address while its off? huh
[1:20] <suttin> oh, and I missed the part where ssh is off by default
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[1:23] <BurtyB> suttin, yeah, tho that's the default in rasbian these days
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[1:25] <suttin> seems like dhcp isn't giving it an address
[1:26] <BurtyB> suttin, it = controller or pi zero?
[1:26] <suttin> pi zero
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[1:27] <suttin> I can ssh fine to the controller
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[1:27] <BurtyB> suttin, which image are you using? and does "ifconfig" show ethpiX ?
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[1:29] <suttin> i see the enxb872 and br0. enx has my home networks network, bro is 172.19.181.254 and I don't see ethpix. Im using the lite controller
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[1:31] <suttin> it seems like the zeros boot, the green light flashes for a while then goes solid
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[1:32] <BurtyB> suttin, are you using a USB nic for your home network? as it should normally be eth0 and again which image are you using?
[1:32] <suttin> Stretch Lite image for the controlle
[1:32] <suttin> no, its using the built in nic
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[1:34] <BurtyB> suttin, so you're not using the ClusterHAT-2018-03-13-lite-1-controller image?
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[1:34] <suttin> oh sorry, yes thats the one im using
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[1:40] <prototron> Hello.
[1:40] <prototron> Can I just switch the SD card from a Pi 3 to a Pi 3 B+ ?
[1:41] <suttin> Should be able to
[1:41] <suttin> I switch from 0s to 3 often
[1:41] <prototron> Ok
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[1:41] <prototron> I'll backup my SD card and try then
[1:41] <prototron> thanks
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[1:42] <ebarch> prototron: just make sure you've got an up to date image. you'll get stuck on the "rainbow" if you don't :P
[1:43] <prototron> ebarch: Ok. I updated Raspbian I tried to switched from a 2B to 3B+ and got this rainbow...
[1:44] <BurtyB> suttin, hmm then I'm not sure what enxb872 is
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[1:44] <suttin> the full name is enxb827ebac2c45
[1:44] <suttin> lol
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[1:45] <BurtyB> suttin, can you pastebin the output of "ifconfig -a"?
[1:45] <suttin> yeah 1 sec
[1:46] <ebarch> prototron: did you run apt update && apt full-upgrade?
[1:46] <prototron> I don't remember :(
[1:46] <suttin> https://pastebin.com/yVBdfGdm BurtyB
[1:46] <prototron> But I think so
[1:47] <ebarch> wouldn't hurt to boot it in the Pi 2 and run it for good measure
[1:47] <ebarch> if it's not up to date, it won't boot the 3B+
[1:47] <leftyfb> prototron: put it back into the pi3 and run sudi rpi-update
[1:47] <leftyfb> er
[1:47] <leftyfb> sudo rpi-update
[1:48] <ebarch> leftyfb: rpi-update supposedly installs experimental/broken FW. not sure if that's still the case
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[1:48] <ebarch> "This gets you the latest bleeding edge kernel/firmware. There is always the possibility of regressions."
[1:48] <ebarch> according to https://github.com/Hexxeh/rpi-update
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[1:51] <suttin> BurtyB: gonna update and reboot just to see if that helps
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[1:52] <prototron> I'll stick to the "full-upgrade". I need a stable system, no need for bleeding edge features
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[1:55] <suttin> BurtyB: failed to start raise network interfaces. eth0 doesn't exist. networking.services isnt running
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[1:56] <ebarch> prototron: that's definitely the safest way to start. I don't remember if apt will update the bootloader and other files in the /boot partition. if not, rpi-update would be the next thing to try if apt update && apt full-upgrade doesn't fix it
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[1:57] <suttin> BurtyB: hmmm... lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Apr 12 18:56 enxb827ebac2c45 -> ../../devices/platform/soc/3f980000.usb/usb1/1-1/1-1.1/1-1.1:1.0/net/enxb827ebac2c45
[1:57] <BurtyB> suttin, which Pi model are you using on controller?
[1:58] <suttin> 3b
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[1:59] <BurtyB> suttin, if you disconnect the cluster hat and reboot is it still missing eth0?
[1:59] <suttin> I think I can also edit /etc/network/interfaces
[1:59] <suttin> but Ill do that now
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[2:00] <prototron> ebarch: got it. thanks
[2:00] <suttin> no eth0
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[2:01] <BurtyB> suttin, have you made any changes to the config ?
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[2:02] <suttin> not yet
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[2:04] <suttin> s/eth0/enblahblah/g worked
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[2:05] <suttin> well, networking.service is running
[2:05] <BurtyB> suttin, something has gone wrong/changed tho as it shouldn't be using predictable names - did you do any updates on it?
[2:06] <suttin> oh
[2:06] <suttin> lol
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[2:06] <suttin> I might have changed that setting
[2:06] <BurtyB> then that would break it
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[2:06] <suttin> should predictable names be on or off?
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[2:08] <BurtyB> suttin, it should be off to get eth0 - or revert the changes you made :)
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[2:09] <suttin> ok eth0 is back
[2:09] <tfgbd_> I'm compiling the latest QEMU now.
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[2:09] <tfgbd_> How long should I expect this to take?
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[2:10] <tfgbd_> I'm trying to use KVM
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[2:11] <tfgbd_> can I paste the error I get when I try to use it with the qemu in my distro?
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[2:13] <BurtyB> suttin, right so are you still having problems accessing the pi zero?
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[2:13] <suttin> BurtyB: yes
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[2:15] <BurtyB> suttin, which image did you use for the pi zero? is it the downloaded Px or the controller reconfigured?
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[2:15] <suttin> http://dist.8086.net/clusterhat/ClusterHAT-2018-03-13-lite-1-controller.zip
[2:15] <suttin> thats the link i used
[2:16] <BurtyB> suttin, and what image did you use on the Pi Zero?
[2:16] <suttin> seems like the bridge is working now. br0 is my local network
[2:16] <suttin> the individual ones for the boards 1-4
[2:16] <suttin> ClusterHAT-2018-03-13-lite-1-p1.zip
[2:17] <suttin> and then 2 for p2
[2:17] <suttin> so on
[2:17] <BurtyB> k
[2:17] <BurtyB> suttin, can you pastebin "lsusb -t" please
[2:17] <BurtyB> (after running "clusterhat on" and waiting a few seconds that is)
[2:18] <suttin> BurtyB: https://pastebin.com/rumtXzjA
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[2:18] <suttin> yep
[2:18] <suttin> huh, I had them on before I did the lsusb -t, and nothing changed when I did clusterhat off
[2:19] <tfgbd_> qemu-system-aarch64: /home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILD/qemu-2.9.1/exec.c:652: cpu_address_space_init: Assertion `asidx == 0 || !(kvm_allowed)' failed.
[2:19] <tfgbd_> Does that mean my distro's QEMU is compiled without KVM support?
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[2:20] <BurtyB> suttin, if you run "clusterhat off" then remove the SD card in the pi zero, run "clusterhat on" and wait a few seconds do you see more devices show up in "lsusb -t" ?
[2:21] <suttin> I have 4 in right now, should I remove the sd from everything?
[2:21] <BurtyB> suttin, can do or just do "clusterhat on p1" or something
[2:22] <suttin> nothing
[2:22] <suttin> as in, nothing more shows up
[2:25] * ShorTie wonders if tfgbd_ setting the right CONFIG_OPTS = --target-list=arm-softmmu
[2:25] <BurtyB> suttin, then I'd check again you've plugged the pizeros in far enough as that's normally the problem
[2:26] <tfgbd_> I didn't compile it.
[2:26] <tfgbd_> I'm waiting for the latest version to compile right now.
[2:26] <tfgbd_> On my x86 phone, I didn't need to compile anything.
[2:26] <tfgbd_> I guess ARM64 KVM is very untested and bleeding edge.
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[2:26] <suttin> ok im going to bed... helps if i plug them into the data usb port, not the power
[2:28] <suttin> this is why they dont let me in the datacenter
[2:28] <IT_Sean> I wouldn't let you in my datacenter either, by the sound of things
[2:29] <BurtyB> suttin, lol yes that does help :)
[2:29] <suttin> :p
[2:29] <shauno> you wouldn't want to sleep in ours anyway. it sounds like a vacuum cleaner convention.
[2:29] <suttin> hey look at that
[2:29] <suttin> ehtpi* addresses
[2:29] <suttin> hey look at that, dhcp leases
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[2:32] <BurtyB> suttin, :)
[2:33] <suttin> ey look at that, ssh :D
[2:33] <suttin> k im off to the races now
[2:33] <suttin> thanks BurtyB
[2:37] <wadadli> Can anyone tell me what the wireless device name is on a RPM based install?
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[2:39] <tfgbd_> My OpenSUSE doesn't have wifi
[2:40] <wadadli> Why not?
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[2:56] <suttin> tmux is a life saver
[2:56] <Rob235> hey
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[2:57] <Rob235> so I have a rpi on the way and have been doing some reading. I want to run a web server utilizing web sockets and use commands sent to the server to send information to a SPI device
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[2:57] <Rob235> Should I use node for this? I havent used it before although it doesnt look difficult to pick up some basic knowledge
[2:58] <Rob235> I was planning on installing apache but not sure how I would take the websocket data and control an SPI device that way
[2:59] <Rob235> I came across node + socket.io + pigpio + spidevice
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[3:11] <suttin> yay installing docker 5 times :D
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[3:21] <BurtyB> suttin, when you lose network take a look on the clusterhat forum for docker and iptables for what causes it :)
[3:22] <suttin> yeah, docker has a drop all rule
[3:23] <suttin> but my swarm is running, deploying a test app now :D
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[3:38] <suttin> i guess you shouldn't shut down the controller
[3:39] <tfgbd_> still compiling QEMU
[3:40] <archpc> i remember gentoo
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[3:43] <Voop> how do you find where a file for a program you installed is
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[3:49] <suttin> like you want to know the path to the script/binary? which
[3:49] <suttin> or you installed a package and want to know what things were placed on the system
[3:49] <suttin> Voop: ^
[3:52] <Voop> i was trying to find a script that was being ran by another script essentially
[3:52] <Voop> but i found it. i knew where it was im just overtired
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[4:15] <wadadli> anyone around running fedora on a pi?
[4:15] <wadadli> or centos
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[4:16] <Voop> im wearing a fedora and using a pi
[4:16] <djIsJustaNumber> Does anyone have any insight on installing Kali on an RPi 3 Model B+? I burned it to the SD card using: xz -cd kali-image-archive.xz|dd
[4:16] <Voop> does that count
[4:16] <djIsJustaNumber> of=/dev/sdb bs=4M iflag=fullblock oflag=direct status=progress
[4:16] <djIsJustaNumber> However it won't boot
[4:17] <Voop> it might not be ported over yet
[4:17] <Voop> probably isnt
[4:17] <djIsJustaNumber> What isn't?
[4:17] <djIsJustaNumber> Not sure if you were responding to me
[4:19] <leftyfb> djIsJustaNumber: what exactly do you think you'll be doing with Kali Linux?
[4:19] <Voop> kali
[4:19] <Voop> think i heard other people complain its not yet compatible with the 3b+
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[4:20] <djIsJustaNumber> Ah
[4:21] <djIsJustaNumber> Well damn
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[4:21] <djIsJustaNumber> I was wondering if that might be the case
[4:21] <leftyfb> djIsJustaNumber: what exactly do you think you'll be doing with Kali Linux?
[4:21] <djIsJustaNumber> Kali linux things :P
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[4:22] <djIsJustaNumber> I don't absolutely need it to be Kali, so that's fine. Just didn't feel like spending extra time installing things on the system when Kali has it all already
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[4:33] <sliceline> I am having an odd issue booting my raspberry pi img
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[4:41] <djIsJustaNumber> Is it Kali?
[4:41] <djIsJustaNumber> Because so am I
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[6:02] <ttgg> hello, trying to stream a webcam feed from my raspberry pi to my smartphone
[6:02] <ttgg> methods?
[6:02] <ball> ttgg: Is the webcam plugged into your camera header on the Pi?
[6:02] <cgarz> ttgg: I use uv4l, and have had success with motion in the past
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[6:02] <ttgg> Will have two picam modules tomorrow, before 8pm, unless UPS is lying
[6:03] <ttgg> currently just have a logitech usb c615
[6:03] <ttgg> uv41?
[6:05] <cgarz> https://www.linux-projects.org/uv4l/
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[6:05] <cgarz> I find the controls for brightness and what not are better than in motion
[6:06] <cgarz> An it has a nice webRTC mode that is way faster. almost realtime
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[6:11] <Johnjay> can someone recommend a raspberry pi project to start with
[6:12] <Johnjay> i'm on adafruit looking around
[6:13] <cgarz> Johnjay: a clock. using a 7 segment display and python
[6:13] <Johnjay> eh. that sounds more like an arduino type project
[6:14] <cgarz> mine works fine. My favourite project so far
[6:14] <Johnjay> some guy on youtube installed windows 3.1 onto a microcontroller
[6:14] <Johnjay> that was pretty rad
[6:14] <ball> Johnjay: That's an odd choice
[6:14] <ball> Johnjay: Was it a PC-104 thing?
[6:15] <Johnjay> can't recall, the vid is probably still up though
[6:15] <Johnjay> i thought it was an arduino thing as well for some reason
[6:15] <Johnjay> but probably not
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[6:16] <cgarz> if you do do a 7 segment clock i would reccomend using something like a 74HC595 to cut down on the inputs used. thats what i did. very handy.
[6:18] <Johnjay> that's oddly specific
[6:18] <Johnjay> and i still can't tell if you're joking or not
[6:20] <cgarz> cant thing of the proper name for the type of thing that its called. But thats what I got in my starter pack. Along with the 7seg displays
[6:21] <ball> My guess is that it's something like a 2-to-4 line decoder
[6:21] * ball checks
[6:21] <Johnjay> by the way adafruit literally has an arduino tutorial with that exact model
[6:22] <ball> Nope, it's a shift register.
[6:22] <ball> I should have guessed that.
[6:22] <cgarz> shift register! thats the one
[6:22] <cgarz> it was a while ago
[6:22] <cgarz> i did it before it and used up a ton of gpio
[6:23] <cgarz> was very pleased once i found out what it was.
[6:23] <ball> I haven't used a shift register in years.
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[6:30] <plugwash> They are kinda handy because you can chain them up and drive them from the Pi's SPI perhipheral
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[6:31] <plugwash> cheap and easy way to get a whole bunch of output lines
[6:31] <plugwash> (or with slightly different shift register chips a whole bunch of input lines)
[6:33] <ball> Goodnight all.
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[6:36] <plugwash> Though the HC595 isn't the best match for the Pi. If you run it off 3.3V it is pretty slow, if you run it off 5V you are sailing pretty close to the wind on input thresholds, it will likely work but it's not gauranteed.
[6:37] <plugwash> HCT595 (for 5V supply) or LVC595 (for 3.3V supply) are a better match.
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[6:39] <plugwash> but unfortunately are hard to find in DIL :(
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[6:52] <plugwash> looks like 74AHCT595 is available in DIL though and would be ok for a 5V output application driven from a Pi.
[6:52] <SpaceAce> anyone running nzbget on their pi?
[6:53] <SpaceAce> also, looking for an irc bouncer
[6:53] <SpaceAce> that i can set up alongside pi-hole on my old pi B and keep chat logs
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[7:06] <ziddey> anyone running deluge on a rpi3 without it eating dirt?
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[7:40] <SpaceAce> is there a way i can detect what model of Pi i'm ssh'd into?
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[7:40] <SpaceAce> rather can you echo the pi model from the shell?
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[7:41] <SpaceAce> ah this probably works https://elinux.org/RPi_HardwareHistory
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[9:59] <inc0gn1t0> Can I connect a Lipo, or lithium ion battery that's uses the same little connector as a pc fan straight to my pi without a hat? Like just plug it in gpio. Or would i solder it to the part that says PWR (same place u solder a power button)
[10:00] <gordonDrogon> inc0gn1t0, NO!
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[10:00] <inc0gn1t0> Lol
[10:00] <inc0gn1t0> Ok
[10:00] <inc0gn1t0> So no way to hardwire a battery?
[10:00] <gordonDrogon> Nope.
[10:01] <gordonDrogon> to start with, the battery is typically 3.7v - the Pi needs 5v.
[10:01] <gordonDrogon> you need some sort of boost converter and optionally charge circuit.
[10:02] <gordonDrogon> I use this: https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/powerboost-1000-charger-rechargeable-5v-lipo-usb-boost-1a-1000c for a Pi Zero, but it's not beefy enough for a Pi v3 or 3+
[10:03] <gordonDrogon> actually, it's 2.5A peak, so might just do a v3.
[10:05] <inc0gn1t0> So is the hat the most low profile way then? It makes it so much fatter :( unless....i desoldered the gpio and slimmed down the usb, then soldered the hat is, wouldn't be any taller than stock pi3 that way
[10:05] <inc0gn1t0> I'll check that link now
[10:06] <JohnyTheSmith> huh. are cronjobs somehow handled different to me personaly entering a command?
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[10:08] <gordonDrogon> JohnyTheSmith, yes - there's typically no $PATH setup.
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[10:12] <JohnyTheSmith> ah i could try giving it an absolute path... though, downloading and creating the file it does that just in the home folder, it sets the appropriate permissions as well (seperate commands), it just doesnt seem to execute it (third command).
[10:13] <JohnyTheSmith> or, not as the user i am.
[10:13] <JohnyTheSmith> if it executes the shell script as root, thatd be of no use
[10:13] <gordonDrogon> did you use edit /etc/crontab, or crontab -e?
[10:14] <gordonDrogon> the former will run as root, the latter run as the user you are.
[10:14] <gordonDrogon> you can just stick something like PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/home/pi/bin etc. in the crontab iirc. see man 5 crontab
[10:14] <JohnyTheSmith> crontab -e
[10:14] <gordonDrogon> well, as long as you didn't sudo that command or run it as root, then it will execute as the user you're logged in as.
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[10:15] <gordonDrogon> anyway - I have to be somewhere else- good luck sorting it.
[10:16] <JohnyTheSmith> thanks and much success for wherever you have to be
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[10:26] <inc0gn1t0> Anyone know of a preexisting fyi script for Bluetooth connection? Or should I make my own? (I'm using a different debian distro than raspi, and it's a series of about 7 commands to pair a device)
[10:26] <inc0gn1t0> *gui script
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[13:08] <Voop> trying to ssh into my pi
[13:08] <Voop> the pi is connected to ethernet to my router
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[13:08] <Voop> what do
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[13:11] <at0m> Voop: did you set up your pi to start the ssh server? do you know your pi's IP? you can probably find the IP on your router's DHCP page, then ssh pi@$piIP
[13:11] <Kwest> default password - raspberry
[13:12] <at0m> from OSX or linux, that is. on windows, you'll probably need to get putty, an ssh client for windows
[13:13] <Voop> at0m: all the guides i looked at said i need to set a static ip on both the pi and computer im using. and implied it was impossible to do it headless
[13:13] <Voop> but i just looked at my router page like you said and ssh'd to the i[
[13:14] <Voop> ip* and it worked fine
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[13:14] <at0m> using static IP (man interfaces on the pi) skips the part of looking for the pi's IP
[13:16] <at0m> static IP on the LAN makes sense if it's always on that LAN, but if your friend has 192.168.0.? and you have 192.168.1.? network, static IP will not be routable if you take the pi out to your friend
[13:17] <at0m> Voop: or you can have the router make a DHCP reservation for your pi, so it will give the pi the same IP each time it boots
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[13:18] <at0m> that is based on the MAC address requesting an IP from the dhcp server
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[13:19] <JimBuntu> If you want to shell in after reboots, power offs, router boots or much in general... make a MAC reservation in the router. Then you can use a ~/.ssh/config file for very quick SSH/SCP
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[13:20] <JimBuntu> ^^ assumes you are normally using Linux. Makes not messing with config info in PuTTY easier too though.
[13:21] <at0m> yea and you won't need to look for the IP on the router, or map your LAN, whatever you do to find the pi's IP
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[13:26] <Voop> it should always be the same IP shouldnt it
[13:26] <Voop> its always the same ip when on wifi
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[13:27] <at0m> Voop: well, for convenience, yes
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[13:29] <Voop> ok when trying to log in as root
[13:30] <Voop> (changed root password then logged out)
[13:30] <Voop> it says permisssion denied when entering the password
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[13:32] <at0m> Voop: log in as pi again. remain logged in when changing anything in /etc/ssh/sshd_config. if you lock yourself out, that initial connection will remain active. now, i suspect sshd_config disallows root ssh.
[13:33] <Voop> hmmm ok
[13:33] <at0m> Voop: unless something really requires it, it's safer to ssh in as pi or $someotheruser, then become root.
[13:34] <at0m> .. and as such, keep ssh'ing in as root prohibited.
[13:35] <at0m> in general, you don't do anything on linux as root unless the operation requires root privileges.
[13:36] <Voop> i just want to change the 'pi' username
[13:37] <at0m> adduser $yourusername; try to log in as that user, then "deluser pi"
[13:37] <mfa298> most things default to root logins nott being allowed or only via key
[13:37] <rycuda> It's generally considered best practice.
[13:37] <at0m> root is way more powerfull on linux compared to Administrator on Windows. and you will hit your face on the desk on day for breaking your system in a bad way
[13:38] <at0m> before you remove the user pi, make sure you can log in as $yourusername
[13:38] <Voop> how do i give the added user the same privs as pi
[13:38] <mfa298> check the groups the pi user is in and add the new user to the relevant ones you need
[13:39] <Voop> how to
[13:39] <at0m> as pi, run "groups"
[13:39] <mfa298> iff you've set a root password, you can also use `su -` to get a root shell from any account (usually)
[13:40] <pksato> use id command to check user groups. id pi ; id newuser
[13:40] <Voop> what do you mean run groups
[13:41] <pksato> and, adduser newuser missing_group
[13:41] <mfa298> Voop: its a command, it tells you what groups your in
[13:41] <Voop> looks like every user can sudo by default
[13:42] <Voop> # Allow members of group sudo to execute any command
[13:42] <Voop> %sudo ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
[13:43] <Voop> well it says im not in the sudoers file
[13:43] <mfa298> if your being good you should only add users to the groups they need, so i think i only use adm and sudo by default for my admin user
[13:44] <mfa298> Voop: that rule is sudo onlyy if your in the sudo group, so not every user.
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[14:08] <JohnyTheSmith> So this is in my current crontab - the first 2 commands work without any problem, i tried a few alternative ways to have it execute the third but nothing seems to do it. https://pastebin.com/x2iYffRn
[14:09] <leftyfb> JohnyTheSmith: put the full path to ipfshell.sh in all of them
[14:10] <leftyfb> JohnyTheSmith: what exactly does ipfshellfilebot.sh do?
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[14:17] <seek^126> hey guys, i'm generating a open vpn 4096 key on my pi (1b) :> i know its gonna take a while, i'm fine with that but can i do install other stuff while its generating?
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[14:18] <leftyfb> seek^126: sure, in another window/terminal
[14:18] <pksato> Yes. and can speed up key generation (rng).
[14:19] <leftyfb> pksato: pretty sure that only takes input from the current session
[14:19] <seek^126> thanks leftyfb. ok, i'm using screen for the install. i just wanted to make sure because its already running for a while and i dont wont to fuck up now
[14:19] <leftyfb> seek^126: please watch the language
[14:20] <seek^126> pardon
[14:20] <IT_Sean> seek^126: please review the channel rules, linked in the topic; specifically the language policy.
[14:20] <JohnyTheSmith> leftyfb its ipfs pin add commands for the ipfs daemon which is running as a service
[14:21] <JohnyTheSmith> if cronjobs run under something other than the user that sets it up, then that would explain that
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[14:57] <JohnyTheSmith> will try to set up one of these commands contained in the script by itself and see if that works.
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[15:11] <JohnyTheSmith> nope, also not working. So i have to assume it doesnt run as user in the same way.
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[15:55] <ball> Oooh, I just found a USB 2.0 to four disk PATA adaptor board. Rationally I know the Pi wouldn't make a great NAS but when I see that, I'm tempted to try.
[15:55] <Lartza> Just RAID it and it'll go fast ;) /s
[15:56] <ball> Only as fast as the Raspberry Pi USB port and I'd lean towards RAID 1 or RAID 1+0, so writes might be slightly slower than for a single disk.
[15:56] <stiv> or as fast as the pi's usb bus will let it. go for it and see
[15:56] <ball> Reads ought to be pretty good.
[15:56] <Lartza> Thus /s :P
[15:56] <Lartza> If you can live with ~320mbps of shared internet and disk I/O it's okay, but it'll indeed never be great indeed
[15:57] <ball> I don't know what /s means
[15:57] <Lartza> sarcasm
[15:57] <ball> Ah, ok.
[15:57] <Lartza> Or well, 320mbps of net I/O only applies to 3B+ of course
[15:57] <ball> It'll never be lightning fast but it *would* be compact and not draw much power
[15:57] <ball> (beyond what the disks use)
[15:58] <Habbie> Lartza, why only 3b+?
[15:59] <Lartza> Habbie, Because the 3B has a 100mbps NIC?
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[15:59] <Lartza> And all other Pi's too
[15:59] <Habbie> oh like that
[15:59] <Habbie> i thought we were talking total usb bus capacity
[15:59] <Lartza> Ah no, that is the same on all
[15:59] <Lartza> theoretical 480mbps, my 320mbps is kind of pulled off the hat guesstimate I think I read somewhere :P
[16:01] <gordonDrogon> I did a quick benchmark of the 3+ Gb Ethernet and did see 310-320Mb/sec.
[16:01] <gordonDrogon> I've never benchmarked USB file transfers though.
[16:01] * ball waits patiently for a 25G Raspberry Pi ;-)
[16:02] * BurtyB did a test on the pi3+ and saw about 14kb/s yay bugs
[16:02] <ball> 480 Mbits/sec is what, *absolute* maximum 57 Mbytes/sec shared between everything on the bus.
[16:02] <Lartza> ball, Theoretical speed of USB2
[16:02] <ball> ...Is the Ethernet on that bus?
[16:02] <Lartza> Yes
[16:03] <Lartza> "If you can live with ~320mbps of shared internet and disk I/O it's okay"
[16:03] <Lartza> :)
[16:03] * ball chuckles
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[16:03] <ball> I may keep looking, see if I can find one with two SATA ports instead of two PATA.
[16:04] <Lartza> Just be prepared that the RPi as a NAS might be a PITA ;)
[16:04] <mfa298> the 320mbps values are probably allowing for overheads and (i think)the half duplex nature of usb
[16:06] <mfa298> if you want lower power rather than max speed then the pi is fine as a NAS, just don't expect to go running a corporate nas off it.
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[16:09] <skurksimon> hey guys
[16:09] <skurksimon> when i log onto my new user there's no "user@Server" anymore, just the $
[16:09] <skurksimon> how come?
[16:09] <red9> OrangePi have builtin Ethernet-MAC I'll assume it will make a speed difference..
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[16:10] <mfa298> skurksimon: that sounds like you didn't create the default user dir with whatever command you used
[16:10] <mfa298> the standard useradd you need a -m flag (from memory) to create the home dir and copy in the contents of /etc/skel (which sets default user environment)
[16:11] <skurksimon> I thought i used the -m flag, ill look into it though
[16:11] <red9> Mali-4xx graphics does suck ofcourse.
[16:11] <mfa298> take a look (with ls -la) at what's in /etc/skel and your new users $HOME
[16:17] <ball> skurksimon: I think that depends on your shell.
[16:17] <stiv> could be that PS1 env var is not set
[16:17] * ball nods
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[16:47] <skurksimon> how come I have to enter "[sudo] password for user:" first time I try a sudo command every session
[16:47] <skurksimon> didnt happen on pi
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[16:51] <leftyfb> skurksimon: the user isn't added to the sudoers group
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[16:52] <eugenok> Hi! Is anywhere the place on the net to sell my own rpi powered products?
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[16:53] <ball> eugenok: Etsy?
[16:53] <larsks> Ebay?
[16:53] <ball> eugenok: What have you built?
[16:53] <shauno> tindie's probably not a bad start
[16:55] <eugenok> I did some application that use rpi & arduino for control relays by time scheduller (RTOS on the arduino side + node-red on the rpi + some interface application)
[16:56] <eugenok> and get sensor's information to DB and show that on the graphics (history of temp, humidity, pressure).
[16:56] <skurksimon> leftyfb: but it is, if i type groups sudo is in there
[16:57] <larsks> skurksimon: having to enter the password the first time you use sudo in a sesion is the default behavior for sudo.
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[16:58] <larsks> But you can change that behavior in your sudoers.conf with the NOPASSWD option.
[16:58] <eugenok> thanks for answers, I see now that tindie is probably the right place
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[16:58] <skurksimon> larsks: huh, the fact that the pi user doesnt have that made me a bit confused
[16:59] <larsks> Probably due to the existing configuration. Take a look at /etc/sudoers and any files in /etc/sudoers.d.
[16:59] <leftyfb> skurksimon: the pi has a config for nopasswd
[16:59] <leftyfb> add one for your user if you like
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[18:35] <Tenkawa> hi all
[18:35] <MacGeek> o/
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[19:29] <Johnjay> eugenok: maybe you can give me tips then
[19:29] <Johnjay> i look for a good project to start with on the raspberry pi and/or arduino and the tutorials on adafruit are kinda weird
[19:30] <Johnjay> they're either complete fluff (oooh a pretty LED grid) or really old
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[19:40] <stiv> automatic death-ray/squirrel chasers are popular. combines lasers, servo motor control and image processing
[19:42] <methuzla> Johnjay, good starting projects for a pi are always hard to come up with, since it can do so much. it helps if you have something you're interested in. blinking leds? moving servos? making a web server? botnet?
[19:42] <Johnjay> those all sound good
[19:42] <Johnjay> well maybe not that last one. for now. XD
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[19:43] <stiv> part of the coolness of the pi is it is easy to connect it to things. connect it to something you are interested in
[19:44] <cberg> does a rasp pi work well as a home router?
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[19:45] <stiv> yes, for small values of "work well"
[19:49] <cberg> hmm, that's probably good enough for me. it doesn't need to handle dozens of devices and 100mbit/s connections
[19:50] <cberg> need to replace my router and a rasp pi is cheaper than most consumer grade routers I can find. and probably better support for openwrt too
[19:51] <shiftplusone> Depending on how comfortable you are with the pi and setting everything up, you might be paying for it with time.
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[19:52] <cberg> yeah I guess
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[20:07] <stiv> i would expect a consumer grade router to do a little better on range & thru put
[20:07] <stiv> do it and see! should be educational at the very least
[20:08] <cberg> yeah that's what I was thinking. if it doesn't work well enough then I'm sure I can find another use for it :)
[20:08] <cberg> anyway thanks for the feedback
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[20:22] <Johnjay> i wonder if you could make money selling people raspi's as home routers
[20:23] <Johnjay> in lieu of the more expensive ones
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[20:26] <stiv> 1) economy of scale; 2) range; 3) performance
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[20:29] <gordonDrogon> Johnjay, no - you can't. one support call and that blows the budget.
[20:33] <stiv> that's a good point. do wifi devices need some sort of certification?
[20:34] <gordonDrogon> it depends on the country.
[20:34] <gordonDrogon> selling COTS stuff is really really hard.
[20:34] <gordonDrogon> unless it's bread.
[20:35] <gordonDrogon> (etc.)
[20:36] <shiftplusone> I think the 3B+ has been done in such a way that the wifi part is a module that has already been certified. Other models would need to be certified as a new device.
[20:36] <cberg> also for most people a normal home router is a much better solution. part of the reason why I'm considering a pi is because I'd use an open firmware anyway, and finding cheap routers that have reasonable support for them isn't easy
[20:37] <shiftplusone> as far as FCC goes anyway
[20:37] <shiftplusone> there are a million other things to worry about, depending on which country you want to sell to.
[20:38] <MacGeek> oh interesting it appears that the first VideoCore V hardware has started shipping
[20:38] <MacGeek> safe to assume we're going to see it on rpi4 I guess?
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[20:41] <shiftplusone> who knows
[20:41] <shiftplusone> well, who outside of pi towers
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[20:44] <MacGeek> https://www.broadcom.com/products/broadband/set-top-box/bcm7251
[20:45] <ekko> they utilize chipsets, they dont create them. rpi4 will just have a newer variant.
[20:46] <ekko> they arrive at the factory with FCC certification.
[20:47] <MacGeek> I've never said they created chipsets
[20:49] <JimBuntu> oh interesting it ap[p]ears that the first V[i]deo[C]o[re] V h[a]rdware has s[t]art[e]d shipping - MacGeek I can read between the lines and letters
[20:50] <ekko> MacGeek, I'm just saying. The creators of the chipsets do in fact require FCC certs. I don't think any manufacturer makes them outside of spec, although some of them can be pushed far outside of regulation. (BOlivia, anyone?)
[20:52] <MacGeek> I think maybe two conversations got mixed up there? it appears you're talking about wifi, maybe you weren't replying to me in your message above
[20:52] <ekko> ah, youre correct on both counts.
[20:52] <ekko> my apologies
[20:53] <MacGeek> it appears I was the one who first misunderstood your comment about chipsets as a reply to my VideoCore V SoC comment
[20:54] <MacGeek> whereas I now realise you were probably replying to shiftplusone
[20:54] <ekko> shift happens. not sweating it. good convo here, misunderstanding notwithstanding
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[20:55] <MacGeek> looks like it was actually my fault to begin with :p
[20:55] <MacGeek> anyway re: the wifi stuff
[20:55] <MacGeek> my understanding, although I'm not familiar with the intricacies of FCC certifications
[20:56] <MacGeek> is that the plain 3 was certified as a device, while the 3B+ is certified as a module
[20:56] <shiftplusone> Neither am I, but I've seen the hassle the compliance guys go through with each pi release. It's a lot of work. Especially the new one which allows it to be used in other products without as much hassle for the user.
[20:56] <MacGeek> which as I understand it means that before, if you integrated a rpi into a product, you'd have to recertify everything again
[20:57] <ekko> you're correct MacGeek
[20:57] <MacGeek> because the device certification could not carry over to a product integrating the board
[20:57] <ekko> both are true
[20:57] <shiftplusone> that sounds right to me too
[20:57] <ekko> because i work hard to push them out of specification thanks to the board ^.^
[20:57] <ekko> the chips, that is
[20:57] <MacGeek> while now you don't need to recertify everything and you can just say: contains fcc id xyz (the id for the 3b+)
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[20:59] <ekko> you can look up the broadcom as well. but i believe the pi has to be certified regardless because it is a separate entity capable of transmitting
[20:59] <inc0gn1t0> I'm using the Kali ARM image on pi3, to connect Bluetooth u have to issue about 5 commands prior to each new setup. The regular Kali has a Bluetooth gui under <settings> - <hardware>. Is there a way I can implement that gui to my arm image?
[20:59] <ekko> but no one is producing, or purchasing, non regulated rf-producing chips. same thing is to be said of radios and such
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[21:01] <shiftplusone> inc0gn1t0: probably a question for the Kali ARM devs.
[21:01] <ekko> inc0gn1t0, answer is absolutely yes but it'd take quite a google for me to give you the direction.
[21:03] <inc0gn1t0> shiftplusone: thought i was asking in Kali channel, oops.
[21:03] <shiftplusone> happens
[21:03] <shiftplusone> the number of times I've used IRC when I meant to use a terminal window...
[21:03] <ekko> lmfao
[21:03] <ekko> wish i had screen caps of that...
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[21:05] <inc0gn1t0> ekko: I can Google it myself if u help me know what to search for. I searched "Kali Bluetooth gui" but that just gives results on how to find it and use it
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[21:10] <ekko> inc0gn1t0 what envrionment is your desktop? not the answer, but helpful information https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/bluetooth at worst, you could do a simple start up script post install
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[21:16] <inc0gn1t0> Ekko, Kali is usually gnome, but for some reason the ARM version is xcfe4
[21:17] <JimBuntu> probably for the performance boost
[21:17] <JimBuntu> s/probably/possibly
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[21:18] <inc0gn1t0> Oh lol. Makes sense. I was unaware it had performance boost
[21:18] <Choscura> eh?
[21:18] <Tenkawa> brb
[21:18] <JimBuntu> I'm not saying it's all that much...
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[21:18] <Choscura> cogito ergo sum, cogitiamo...
[21:19] <Choscura> I think, therefore I am, I think.
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[21:24] <inc0gn1t0> ekko: thank you. Unfortunately, when I get to the gui setup on the page, it's for gnome lol. However, I do have options to add some sort of gnome integration in my Kali ARM settings, so perhaps that will let me use the gnome-bluetooth to xfce4?
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[21:28] <JimBuntu> Have you looked at installing Gnome?
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[21:28] <inc0gn1t0> That's what I have been considering tbh. I'm much more comfortable with gnome, and this environment is lacking alot of the things I'm used to
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[21:29] <JimBuntu> Gnome just did a point release for 3.28, unsure about the status of ARM - http://news.softpedia.com/news/gnome-3-28-desktop-gets-first-point-release-it-s-ready-for-mass-deployment-520682.shtml
[21:30] <inc0gn1t0> I've never installed just an environment over the default though, I wouldn't know how to go about that
[21:30] <red9> The Pi Zero uses switched not linear power converter for the 3.3V rail?
[21:33] <BurtyB> red9, yes
[21:34] <red9> tries to design som power distribution.
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[21:40] <Choscura> eh, don't bother designing it most of the time. You can usually get a small enough and good enough charge controller board out of a USB charge bank
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[21:42] <ekko> inc0gnti0, sorry dude... single dad life. JimBuntu is on point.
[21:42] <Choscura> typically little quarter-size boards, very convenient to steal and stash in, eg, your altoids tin build or whatever.
[21:42] <ekko> keep it simple, dont sweat the small stuff
[21:42] <Choscura> ekko, you too? lol
[21:43] <ekko> Choscura, majority custody my dude
[21:43] <ekko> and work from home.
[21:43] <Choscura> full custody. what do you do from home?
[21:44] <Choscura> right now I'm uber driving to pay bills, any leads are welcome developments. Can do code but the last code gig was 4-5 hours of commuting a day and wound up paying less than uber.
[21:44] <inc0gn1t0> ekko: it's all good man
[21:45] <inc0gn1t0> JimBuntu: thank you
[21:46] <ekko> Choscura, mining and random tech shit. get dividends, trade stock and crypto but the latter was a lot easier before the divorce and preluding incidents. mining is easy, but hardly worth the investment at this very moment.
[21:46] <JimBuntu> inc0gn1t0, yw.
[21:46] <ekko> inc0gn1t0, do keep us updated yes?
[21:46] <ekko> am curious
[21:48] <Choscura> aah, recent divorce. That's rough, dude, that part sucks, onwards and upwards.
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[21:48] <ekko> last time i had kali on rpi, bt iface was gui but i may be misremembering. now i just modify debian, or run kali persistent on a cheap chromebook. parrot is the tits... hell of a learning curve though, for some things
[21:48] <Choscura> what's parrot?
[21:48] <ekko> Choscura shit man, you ever hear of two happy people getting divorced? lol
[21:48] <inc0gn1t0> I still haven't tried parrot
[21:48] <ekko> parrotsec.com
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[21:48] <ekko> i think
[21:48] <ekko> goog parrot OS
[21:49] <Choscura> lol
[21:49] <Choscura> ok, ekko, there's also a #raspberrypi_NSFW, I think it may be a place you'd have fun
[21:49] <ekko> its like Kali but better, sexier desktop, feature filled. all the way up to pen-testing your car. out of the box.
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[21:50] <ekko> not to sh!t on kali, its fabulous. Parrot is just the step up. Haven't been able to get the ARM build to work on pi though
[21:51] <GenteelBen> Choscura: #raspberrypi-after-dark
[21:51] <ekko> inc0gn1t0, you must.
[21:51] <inc0gn1t0> Sounds amazing
[21:51] <inc0gn1t0> I shall
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[21:51] <BurtyB> ekko, this is a family friendly channel.. you might want to review the rules in the topic
[21:52] <GenteelBen> Yes, keep all discussion about asses to the bare minimum.
[21:52] <inc0gn1t0> Downloading parrot iso now
[21:52] <tfgbd_> Is there a raspian channel?
[21:53] <GenteelBen> #raspian
[21:53] <GenteelBen> Shocking.
[21:53] <ekko> you'll fawn for it. it's MATE, sexier, smooth as hell and I'm ngl, the terminal structure gets me rubbery. debian based just the same, just have to learn around it's inherent secureness
[21:54] <inc0gn1t0> tfgbd_: #scatdiet is my closest guesd
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[21:54] <inc0gn1t0> Lmao
[21:54] <JimBuntu> tfgbd_, check out /msg alis list <search word>
[21:55] <tfgbd_> that channel is dead
[21:55] <GenteelBen> #jimbuntu
[21:55] <GenteelBen> And its downstream, #kimbuntu
[21:55] <JimBuntu> GenteelBen, have you stole my channel
[21:55] <GenteelBen> JimBuntu: no but I wish I had.
[21:55] <GenteelBen> Don't even ask me about #timbuntu.
[21:56] <JimBuntu> No, let's not talk about #rimBuntu
[21:56] <ekko> first rule of #rimBuntu
[21:56] <tfgbd_> Ok, so qemu finally finished compiling but it still has the same error
[21:56] <GenteelBen> Wow can we go one day without talking about rimming in here?
[21:57] <tfgbd_> qemu-system-aarch64: /root/qemu-2.12.0-rc2/exec.c:741: cpu_address_space_init: Assertion `asidx == 0 || !(kvm_allowed)' failed.
[21:57] <ekko> what is life without GenteelBen?
[21:58] <GenteelBen> Alright time to pick up my totally awesome 4k@60Hz HDMI switch with audio splitter.
[21:58] <GenteelBen> And -hope- it actually works.
[21:58] <ekko> BurtyB, got it. My apologies. The use of a censored word was the only violation, yes?
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[21:58] <GenteelBen> The other switches I found were mostly 4k@30Hz. They are sneaky.
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[21:59] <ekko> GenteelBen, FJGEAR KVM was super affordable and works great. What are you getting?
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[22:04] <inc0gn1t0> Shit is just an acronym for "Store High In Transit" from shipping manure back in the day. Why is it even considered profanity?
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[22:05] <ekko> anything can be profane if you exclaim it correctly
[22:06] <ekko> i personally just talk like that.... think like that....type like that... Chicago Proper FTW
[22:06] <ekko> For The Win, that is.
[22:06] <inc0gn1t0> True.
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[22:16] <ekko> lol
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[22:31] <red9> Is there any good reason to put a resistor in series with chip inputs that needs to have static value. Like various enable pins etc?
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[22:31] <gordonDrogon> red9, no.
[22:31] <gordonDrogon> red9, however many people are utterly paranoid, so they do.
[22:32] <stiltr> red9: It's typically used to limit current draw.
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[22:32] <gordonDrogon> just in-case they 'accidentally' make the pin an output and the opposite polartiy to the incoming signal ...
[22:33] <gordonDrogon> in the bad old days some people did lots of weird stuff - resistors, zeners and other 'stuff' ...
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[22:35] <stiltr> For most hobby-grade stuff it's a non-issue.
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[22:35] <gordonDrogon> it's a non issue for properly designed production stuff too.
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[22:35] <red9> I know it's good practice. But it's more "stuff" to keep track of..
[22:35] <gordonDrogon> that's just it - it's not good practice.
[22:35] <inc0gn1t0> shiftplusone: that was uncalled for and immature
[22:36] <gordonDrogon> but it seems to have become so in the Pi world.
[22:36] <gordonDrogon> inc0gn1t0, I thought it was perfectly called for myself.
[22:36] <inc0gn1t0> For imparting the knowledge that shit isn't profanity? Meanwhile the people using the acronym "lmfao" to ur comments about accidently using irc instead of terminal is fine though, right? And talking about rimjob? Totally allowed, right? And claiming how turned on parrot os gets you is cool, right?
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[22:37] <stiltr> Wow, who didn't see that coming. ; )
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[22:37] <red9> Don't talk about processed food ;)
[22:37] <shiftplusone> for the record, none of it is fine, but he kept doing it after being warned.
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[22:39] <red9> re resistor on inputs. Might be that it manages power fluctations better.
[22:39] <red9> otoh, it's probably as useful as any other ritual that makes people feel good(tm) ;-)
[22:41] <gordonDrogon> red9, the input pins work on voltage.
[22:41] <stiltr> red9: The only reason I've used them on boards is to limit current. Not sure about anyone else.
[22:41] <gordonDrogon> so a series resistor should do anything to change that.
[22:41] <gordonDrogon> stiltr, Pi pins in input mode have a very high impedance.
[22:42] <red9> It's just that an input on a 74HC chip most likely NEVER become an output.. ;)
[22:42] <stiltr> gordonDrogon: I'm not saying one should use them with a Pi. Just that that's why they're used in general.
[22:42] <stiltr> I wouldn't use them with a Pi.
[22:43] <gordonDrogon> red9, sure - they're not programmable - so if your code were to 'go rogue' then it's possible you might end up killing something - the pi or device connected to it.
[22:43] <gordonDrogon> I seem to have managed to get away with that in the almos 40 years I've been programming computers with IO though (phew!)
[22:43] <red9> I just don't see the 74HC chip go rougue concerning it's own inputs.
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[22:44] <gordonDrogon> no - but a program on a Pi has that potential...
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[22:44] <gordonDrogon> maybe.
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[22:56] <red9> gordonDrogon, considering 40 yrs. It's a fantastic development from clunky transistorized minicomputers to credit card computer systems and google etc.
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[22:57] <gordonDrogon> red9, well -quite - the Apple II was the first computer I connected stuff up to - it had 4 outputs and 3 digital inputs - as well as 4 analog input.
[22:57] <gordonDrogon> 1978.
[22:57] <gordonDrogon> electronics had been a hobby of mine for a few years before then.
[22:57] <iEv0lv3__> gordonDrogon and shiftplusone, I have hundreds of accounts. Ban all you want, nothing will stop me from coming here to learn. (Which is why I am here, yes). People can joke around sometimes (as they did) but banning do mine for saying "store high in transit", but letting "laughing my fucking ass off" slide. Is completely fucking idiotic of you. Furthermore, I'm pretty sure every family uses the word shit. So fuck ur
[22:57] <iEv0lv3__> family friendly excuse. Rimjobs are family friendly. Get off your period u small dick cuck
[22:58] <gordonDrogon> oh deal
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[22:59] <GeekDrew> o_o
[23:00] <stiltr> Such maturity...
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[23:01] <zleap> what was that all about
[23:01] <gordonDrogon> someone got upset.
[23:01] <zleap> yeah
[23:02] <shiftplusone> zleap: people were joking around and it was getting out of hand, burty asked people to keep it family friendly, this guy was the last one I saw still carrying on, so I kicked him. Then this.
[23:02] * stiltr waits patiently for round 3
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[23:04] <gordonDrogon> I hope there isn't.
[23:04] <GeekDrew> or round n+1
[23:04] <stiltr> gordonDrogon: In the interest of the channel, I hope not as well.
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[23:06] <zleap> same here
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[23:08] <shiftplusone> Other mods' problem now (sorry). Time to go home. Will probably see a lot of profanity aimed at me in the scrollback when I'm back on Monday.
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[23:09] <zleap> shiftplusone: well it is their reputation on the line,
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[23:23] <red9> Don't bofh the bofh, he will bofh you ;)
[23:24] <stiltr> red9: Don't you know what that h stands for!?! Sorry, I couldn't help it...
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[23:24] * stiv is always amazed how the 'family friendly' concept drives people bonkers
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[23:33] * stiltr brushes up on the rules, just to be safe.
[23:38] <red9> You just tell people to do some serious procreational profanity to themselfes. It should be family friendly :p
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[23:40] <stiltr> If the procreational activity is directed at one's self, I don't think that leads to families.
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[23:45] <stiltr> On a more serious topic, has anybody played with puppet on a Pi?
[23:47] <Voop> what is puppet
[23:47] <red9> I wonder that too..
[23:48] <stiltr> It's a configuration management software.
[23:48] <stiltr> https://puppet.com/
[23:48] <red9> (it's probably non-profanity related :p)
[23:48] <red9> nope.
[23:49] <stiltr> It's definitely not something your average Pi user would have a use for. = )
[23:50] <red9> My thought right now is why [insert profanity] didn't they put model type on componentside on the Pi-Z..
[23:50] <red9> https://hackaday.com/2018/01/17/improvising-an-eprom-eraser/ <-- Erasing 2764 EPROM's using a 5 mW UV LED ;)
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[23:55] <red9> stiltr, puppet seems like something that in essence broadcast to clients to do a "apt-get install <package>" etc..
[23:56] <Voop> poop
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[23:59] <stiltr> red9: Yep. It does a bit more than that, but I've mostly just used it to make sure certain packages are installed.

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