#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2018-04-16

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[0:05] <tempate> What does this mean: "RuntimeWarning: This channel is already in use, continuing anyway."
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[0:14] <Voop> 62 minutes still updating
[0:14] <Voop> well 66
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[0:23] <Voop> by the time i get the program running my free trial will have expired
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[1:32] <SpaceAce> what's the minimum value I could set for a pi running "headless" with a 3.5" LCD showing terminal script?
[1:32] <SpaceAce> does the GPU require much more than 16MB?
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[3:10] <Voop> x86 updated and upgraded
[3:10] <Voop> now to install wine
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[3:37] <Voop> 27 minutes later wine install at 17%
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[3:43] <dogbert2> you must have a very slow computer
[3:43] <dogbert2> or a very slow internet connection
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[3:53] <Voop> dogbert2: pi zero
[3:54] <Voop> its been... 44 minutes
[3:54] <Voop> 35%
[3:55] <Voop> looks like i wont have this done for tomorrow
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[3:57] <ttgg> Who is really experienced with video streaming using the pi cam?
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[3:59] <dogbert2> LOL...a OrangePI Plus 2E would already be done, Voop
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[4:03] <swift110> hey all
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[4:08] <Voop> 58 minutes 52%
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[4:11] <Roserin> anyone here know how to set up headless wifi or ssh for a raspi (3b+)
[4:14] <Voop> yes
[4:14] <Voop> create two word documents in the boot partition on the sd card
[4:14] <Voop> rename one SSH with no file extention
[4:15] <Voop> name the other one wpa_supplicant.conf but then open it as a word document
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[4:16] <Voop> then put this in it
[4:16] <Voop> https://pastebin.com/Ey05KwpR
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[4:16] <Voop> and edit the ssid text with your ssid and put your password in there
[4:17] <Voop> save. eject sd card put in pi
[4:17] <Voop> headless wifi and ssh
[4:17] <ttgg> https://www.reddit.com/r/raspberry_pi/comments/8ck62c/what_is_the_best_workaround_to_get_a_picam_to/
[4:17] <ttgg> shameless help plug
[4:17] <ttgg> <3
[4:18] <Voop> Roserin: the file titled ssh will activate ssh, and the wpa_supplicant.conf file will be moved to the proper location
[4:19] <Roserin> Thanks!
[4:19] <Roserin> WPA2-PSK would also work, right?
[4:19] <Voop> yes
[4:20] <Voop> ttgg: what are you trying to do
[4:20] <Voop> always best to just ask your question
[4:20] <Voop> dont make me go to reddit
[4:20] <Voop> i hate reddit
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[4:26] <ttgg> https://pastebin.com/PrLkc1Kd.
[4:27] <ttgg> If you trying to not have to go to a URL, I'm also not trying to put a paragraph in IRC
[4:27] <ttgg> short: Want vid stream with remote view access, using pi cam module, not usb webcam
[4:27] <ttgg> Need adjustable settings, to maximize stream speed/bandwidth overhead
[4:28] <ttgg> so adjustable fps and adjustable resolution would be a necessity for my project
[4:31] <Voop> there are various youtube videos on this
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[4:33] <Voop> https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/10564/streaming-live-from-the-picam
[4:33] <Voop> adjustable settings might not be available unless someone else already put the work in and posted it somewhere
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[4:41] <ttgg> Yeah, 3 second lag at 800x600 is less than I am hoping for
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[4:41] <ttgg> In theory I might kick down to 2 seconds at 640x480, but I'm reeeeaallly hoping I can find a faster solution
[4:43] <Voop> been installing wine for 93 minutes
[4:43] <Voop> i feel like its got another 3 hours
[4:43] <ttgg> What are you wineing for?
[4:44] <Voop> i need to run a single windows program on a pi
[4:44] <ttgg> Yeah, which one?
[4:44] <ttgg> Don't answer if it's hentai.exe
[4:44] <Voop> this install is making me want to drink a few bottles of wine
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[4:45] <ttgg> You drink your wine out of a bottle?
[4:45] <Voop> programming software for industrial controllers
[4:45] <ttgg> Usually get mine in bags and boxes
[4:45] <ttgg> Like Canadian milk
[4:45] <Voop> no shame in boxed wine
[4:45] <ttgg> Why not vnc to a windows system and let a native OS run that program?
[4:46] <CarlFK> bag wine stays fresher :p
[4:46] <ttgg> Some drawback?
[4:46] <Voop> going to bed. either wine will be installed when i wake up or the pi will have set my house on fire
[4:46] <Voop> ttgg: wouldnt work for this application
[4:47] <CarlFK> I suspect having a small form factor computer
[4:47] <Voop> everything has to run on the pi
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[4:47] <Voop> pi will be connected to a machine
[4:47] <Voop> the pi cant move and nothing else can be connected to the machine
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[4:49] <ttgg> >the pi becomes the one
[4:49] <ttgg> >is able to move, and leave the machine matrix
[4:50] <ttgg> >agent smith is pcs with windows
[4:50] <ttgg> I would pre-order a ticket to that movie
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[4:52] <ttgg> What do you make abraham lincoln, if you cut a 5 dollar bill in half, horizontally?
[4:52] <ttgg> Short on money
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[4:59] <Roserin> So, I added the ssh and wpa_supplicant.conf files to the boot partition
[4:59] <Roserin> And I booted my pi
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[5:00] <Roserin> And I ran nmap on my local network, and I saw nothing
[5:00] <dogbert2> f/w issues?
[5:00] <Roserin> Shouldn't be
[5:00] <Roserin> How could I tell?
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[5:01] <dogbert2> <--- uses Libre Computer AML-S905X-CC (Le Potato)
[5:02] <dogbert2> if you're root on da pi, try /sbin/iptables -L <with sudo, if necessary>
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[5:02] <Roserin> I'm not root, because I have no terminl
[5:02] <dogbert2> headless?
[5:02] <Roserin> Or monitor, for that manner
[5:03] <dogbert2> I ssh into my SBC...much easier than shoving a Keyboard, Mouse, and Monitor
[5:03] <d0rm0us3> check your DHCP server
[5:03] <d0rm0us3> or arp -a
[5:03] <Roserin> DHCP *shoudn't* be an issue
[5:03] <Roserin> How would I check it?
[5:04] <dogbert2> hey d0rm0us3
[5:04] <d0rm0us3> Hiya dogbert2
[5:04] <d0rm0us3> presumably you're on a wlan yes?
[5:05] <Roserin> Actually
[5:05] <d0rm0us3> If no, then login to your router, that's usually the asset that hands out dhcp addes
[5:05] <Roserin> So, nmap gave a device with a local address but no MAC address
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[5:05] <Roserin> Could that be the pi?
[5:07] <dogbert2> might be...one advantage to using my D-Link, is it shows connected clients, and my reserved IP range for static on the LAN is between 192.168.1.2-100 anything above that is something getting IP addr via dhcp
[5:07] <dogbert2> so that's how I got into my Libre Computer last night, then changed the IP addr to 192.168.1.50
[5:10] <dogbert2> you could do this...telnet <local IP addr nmap found> 22 <enter>
[5:10] <dogbert2> and see if you get ssh message
[5:12] <CarlFK> /boot/config.txt hdmi_mode=85 ## 85 720p 60Hz
[5:12] <Roserin> Yeah the weird address was just my own computer
[5:12] <CarlFK> fbset ... mode "592x448"
[5:12] <CarlFK> how do I force 1280x720 ?
[5:14] <d0rm0us3> Roserin... drop back 10 and punt to start over
[5:14] <Roserin> is that a football joke :P
[5:14] <d0rm0us3> 1. Has it ever worked, or is it a new asset
[5:14] <Roserin> New
[5:14] <d0rm0us3> Ok..
[5:15] <d0rm0us3> What device on your network (internal) does dhcp?
[5:15] <Roserin> My router
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[5:15] <d0rm0us3> Ok.. login to your router.
[5:15] <Roserin> yep
[5:15] <d0rm0us3> It should have a mechanism to show dhcp clients
[5:16] <dogbert2> unless the router is a POS, d0rm0us3 (hope not)
[5:16] <d0rm0us3> 'eliminate' one by one with known assets.. what remains 'SHOULD' be your pi
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[5:16] <dogbert2> though if you do the 'telnet <IP NMAP found> 22', you'll find out in about 5-10 seconds
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[5:17] <Roserin> That ip was my own computer
[5:17] <Roserin> I misread nmap i guess
[5:18] <d0rm0us3> It might be that the pi never came up.
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[5:18] <d0rm0us3> remove power and reapply, then start back at step 1.
[5:18] <dogbert2> that's possible :)
[5:18] <Roserin> Yeah I'm suspicious that the pi never came up
[5:19] <d0rm0us3> the led's should give some indication of activity
[5:19] <dogbert2> da blue blinken light can drive ya crazy on this libre
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[5:22] <dogbert2> man, Eddie Holman (Hey There Lonely Girl)...that guy has a set of vocal cords (1970)
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[5:36] <CarlFK> how can I tell what video modes my pi can output?
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[6:02] <VoidShift> Can I use the pi3 to be the base of a drone? Can it run the dc motors? If so, which voltage dc motors would be optimal?
[6:02] <VoidShift> (Base, as in main brain..srry)
[6:03] <VoidShift> Or would i need arduino addons?
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[6:06] <CarlFK> VoidShift: you can't hook the gpio pins up to motors, but drone motors often have a motor controller as part of the unit, so like most things... it depends.
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[6:09] <VoidShift> Can the motor controller be hooked to gpio?
[6:10] <VoidShift> I'm assuming so since u can get motor controller arduino pieces
[6:15] <VoidShift> Nvm. Looks lime I can do it by using the pfxmini shield
[6:15] <VoidShift> For pi0
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[6:24] <CarlFK> VoidShift: I am guessing you should follow someone else's R&D and do what they did. then you will start to learn the issues and maybe you can design your own thing
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[6:32] <VoidShift> Yes, I'm designing something revolutionary, superior to a quadcopter. Just wanted to know if a pi was capable on its own. So far through search, it seems, pi + arduino is the way to go. I might try my own setup off one the other tuts that uses one of the microcontrollers and unos I have laying around so I don't need to for out 70lbs for a hat. Lol
[6:32] <VoidShift> Thank u tho
[6:32] <VoidShift> *fork out
[6:39] <plugwash> The question is really how fast do your control loops need to be, devices like the Pi are good at complex processing but not so good at fast control loops.
[6:40] <VoidShift> That's what I'm reading. The pi is better for processing, but arduino is better for motor control. So together they go really well
[6:41] <VoidShift> Just have the pi control the arduino
[6:42] <VoidShift> Seperate question, does the new pi3 b+ have the overclock settings renabled like previous models? Or do we still have to do it manually?
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[10:16] <seek^126> hey guys, is it possible to set up reverse DNS — PTR record/ as a private person with a dynamic ip from my ISP? Or do i need to ask my ISP to set something up for me?
[10:17] <Habbie> in general you need to ask the ISP
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[10:18] <seek^126> thank you Habbie
[10:21] <Ben64> but you're not gonna get it on a dynamic ip
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[10:22] <seek^126> ye, i wont bother.. i just wanted to setup a nice vhost vor irc.. but meh
[10:23] <seek^126> *for
[10:23] <Ben64> why would you need reverse dns for that
[10:23] <Ben64> oh "for"
[10:24] <Habbie> a cheap VPS is probably the best way for that
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[10:28] <Ben64> yep
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[10:34] <realies> fresh sdcard, latest raspbian, 4 logos and a blinking cursor underneath them, nothing else
[10:34] <realies> what could be wrong?
[10:35] <Habbie> 4 logos means the kernel was loaded at least
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[10:36] <realies> huh
[10:37] <realies> used etcher under macos to burn the image
[10:38] <Habbie> anything connected to the pi besides hdmi and power?
[10:38] <realies> wireless dongle, and no hdmi, video over DSI
[10:39] <Habbie> ah
[10:39] <Habbie> perhaps the dsi confuses the text console
[10:39] <Habbie> or needs some configuration
[10:40] <realies> it shouldn't
[10:40] <Habbie> sure
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[11:03] <realies> tried applepi-baker, no video output...
[11:04] <realies> no sdcard activity when i plug power
[11:06] <Habbie> did you preconfigure the wireless?
[11:06] <realies> what?
[11:06] <realies> no
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[11:08] <realies> can't figure out where the problem is
[11:08] <realies> booting from a third sdcard works
[11:10] <Habbie> oh!
[11:10] <Habbie> any idea what the difference is?
[11:12] <realies> what i'm flashing is latest raspbian
[11:12] <realies> to the first two
[11:12] <realies> that's the difference i am aware of
[11:12] <Habbie> what's on the third? an older raspbian?
[11:13] <realies> yeah
[11:13] <Habbie> do you know which version?
[11:14] <realies> но
[11:14] <realies> no
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[11:30] <realies> ok finally it worked, no touch is inverted...
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[11:32] <realies> ok, display_rotate to lcd_rotate
[11:38] <xtore> Anyone remember the Iron Man movies? I was noticing a similarity between the HUD display he had with that of the original terminator.
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[12:00] <mlelstv> showing 6502 assembler dumps from Nibble magazine?
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[12:35] <gordonDrogon> another one that was hard to get in the UK )-:
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[14:25] <^7heo> hoy
[14:25] <^7heo> can the rpi boot if the pwr led is ripped off?
[14:26] <ebarch> it should. provided there isn't other related damage
[14:27] <^7heo> can it boot without an sd card?
[14:27] <ebarch> it can, if it's a Pi 3
[14:27] <ebarch> https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/bootmodes/msd.md
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[14:31] <red9> Booting without the CPU might provide some difficulties however.
[14:31] <ebarch> good thing the broadcom chip is a GPU :P
[14:32] <ShorTie> how did you rip off the pwr led ??
[14:33] <^7heo> ShorTie: installing the pi in a cheap, undocumented enclsure
[14:33] <^7heo> essentially, 2 bucks piece of plastic without a manual
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[14:33] <gordonDrogon> it would have required some force but as long as no other damage ...
[14:34] <^7heo> gordonDrogon: that's the thing; the enclosure is fine, the thing that ripped it off is a "led extension" plastic mushroom
[14:34] <^7heo> that you have to literally hammer in
[14:35] <gordonDrogon> oh...
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[14:36] <^7heo> because otherwise it's too thick for the tight hole
[14:36] <^7heo> so you gotta force it in
[14:36] <^7heo> and I thought it was done to the right clearance
[14:36] <^7heo> buuut... nope
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[14:53] <^7heo> anyhow, I was asking about the SD card because I tried to boot it up to check that it was not damaged
[14:53] <^7heo> and nothing booted
[14:53] <^7heo> but I don't have an SD card yet so...
[14:54] <^7heo> also, if I want to re-solder a LED for the power, can anyone tell me what's the polarity to respect?
[14:54] <BurtyB> which pi?
[14:54] <^7heo> 3 B+
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[14:55] <BurtyB> then it can boot from SD/USB/PXE but you won't see anything on screen until it has
[14:56] <^7heo> I'm asking if I can troubleshoot the pi's bare functionality, without using an SD card
[14:56] <^7heo> but I think the answer is "no"
[14:57] <BurtyB> cathode of the PWR LED is closest to the mounting hole
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[14:57] <^7heo> thanks! :)
[14:58] <ShorTie> a 3B+ should boot if you have writen an image to a usb drive
[14:58] <^7heo> how many layers does the PCB have?
[14:58] <^7heo> 7?
[14:58] <^7heo> ShorTie: I have not put anything in it.
[14:58] <^7heo> just plugged it to the DC
[14:59] <^7heo> and was hoping to see some post or whatever
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[14:59] <ShorTie> you will see the rainbow screen till it finds out where to boot from
[14:59] <^7heo> there was no rainbow screen
[14:59] <^7heo> it just said "no signal"
[14:59] <ShorTie> just plugging it will not work, need a image
[15:00] <^7heo> thanks for confirming
[15:00] <^7heo> an image or an SD device?
[15:00] <^7heo> or a USB key?
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[15:00] <ShorTie> turn of screen before powering up the pi
[15:00] <^7heo> and then?
[15:00] <^7heo> turn on the pi, then the screen, then get image?
[15:01] <ShorTie> the other way around
[15:01] <^7heo> hmm
[15:01] <^7heo> ok
[15:01] <Habbie> ShorTie, is that new for the + ?
[15:01] <^7heo> When you mean "turn on the screen", you mean "don't let it go in standby mode" right?
[15:01] <ShorTie> write image to usb key 1st
[15:02] <^7heo> ah ok
[15:02] <ShorTie> and don't forget to unzip it
[15:03] <^7heo> can't you boot rar images?
[15:03] <^7heo> damn.
[15:03] <^7heo> what about encrypted ones?
[15:04] <ShorTie> i'd get it working 1st before playing with luks
[15:06] <ShorTie> etcher is nice to write images with
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[15:26] <katnip> anyone old enough to remember etch-a-sketch ? :)
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[15:29] <^7heo> katnip: yes.
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[15:32] <^7heo> So anyway; I can't tell if the pi works, because when I put an SD card with Alpine on it; the screen stays black (but gets a signal, and gets backlit), and the activity LED blinks with what seems to be, activity.
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[15:33] <Lartza> ^7heo, Alpine on 3B+?
[15:33] <^7heo> yes
[15:33] <Lartza> Can't do that
[15:33] <^7heo> No idea if that is even functional
[15:34] <Lartza> It's not
[15:34] <^7heo> ah so that'd explain it.
[15:34] <Lartza> Needs newer firmware
[15:34] <^7heo> well the PI still seems to work, otherwise.
[15:34] <^7heo> okay.
[15:34] <^7heo> thanks
[15:34] <Lartza> Alpine last updated in november, before 3B+ release
[15:34] <^7heo> right.
[15:34] <^7heo> so it'd work with edge?
[15:34] <Lartza> Not sure if you could manually fix it and they would have the latest on their update server
[15:34] <Lartza> I don't know what that means :P
[15:34] <^7heo> alpine has a rolling release called edge
[15:35] <^7heo> but since I can't boot it...
[15:35] <^7heo> I can't really change the release.
[15:35] <^7heo> so there's that.
[15:35] <Lartza> There are no edge releases after that date either
[15:35] <Lartza> the release of 3.7 that is
[15:35] <Lartza> But yes it might work with edge if they've updated
[15:35] <Lartza> You could install the new firmware to the boot partition manually, and it could boot
[15:35] <^7heo> Lartza: edge is rolling, so what you usually do is boot a machine, change the version to edge, apk update, apk upgrade
[15:36] <^7heo> Lartza: but two things: 1. you need to boot first; and 2. the RPI image is ro, so...
[15:36] <^7heo> nevermind, I'll check if there's a BSD that can run on the PI
[15:36] <Lartza> Eh, the boot partition is definitely not ro if you plug it into your PC :P
[15:36] <^7heo> netbsd can surely boot there
[15:36] <^7heo> not sure about free/open
[15:37] <^7heo> Lartza: the partition isn't ro when you mount it on a workstation; but you don't boot from it then, either.
[15:37] <^7heo> so the state isn't the same.
[15:37] <Lartza> Why do you need to to replace the firmware?
[15:37] <^7heo> to ensure it pulls all the deps
[15:37] <^7heo> if any
[15:37] <Lartza> If you don't need wifi netbsd might work even on the 3B+
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[15:37] <^7heo> yeah, I'd rather use open
[15:38] <Lartza> Yeah, no that's not at all what I meant for you to do
[15:38] <^7heo> but if unavail, I'll settle for net
[15:38] <Lartza> openbsd allows binary blobs? :P
[15:38] <^7heo> well their images are binaries
[15:38] <^7heo> what do you mean binary blob, as in proprietary binary?
[15:38] <Lartza> Yeah that's not what I meant
[15:38] <Lartza> Yes
[15:39] <^7heo> ah no, I don't think they do.
[15:39] <^7heo> Why, is it required?
[15:39] <Lartza> Yes and no
[15:39] <Lartza> You won't get graphics acceleration for instance
[15:39] <^7heo> ah yeah, don't need to.
[15:39] <^7heo> oh maybe we do, wait.
[15:39] <^7heo> it's not headless.
[15:39] <Lartza> Also seems like openbsd for the rpi is in aarch64 form
[15:39] * ^7heo is too used to headless systems
[15:39] <Lartza> So totally unsupported by the foundation really :P
[15:40] <^7heo> Well yeah
[15:40] <^7heo> altho it seems that both freebsd and netbsd are avail
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[15:40] <^7heo> Also, https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20170409123528
[15:40] <Lartza> 3 != 3B+ though but yeah
[15:40] <Lartza> And actually there is no mainline support for the 3B+ yet
[15:40] <^7heo> right
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[15:41] <Lartza> iirc maybe in 4.17 or 4.18
[15:41] <^7heo> whatever
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[15:41] <^7heo> I'll let the admin set it up then
[15:41] <Lartza> So anything aarch64 will probably not work
[15:41] <^7heo> afterall he ordered that one
[15:41] <Lartza> It's a pain that comes from Broadcom and the foundation not helping the kernel with aarch64 support
[15:41] <^7heo> or I'll ask the alpine team if they know how/if it can work
[15:41] <^7heo> that might be a thing too.
[15:41] <^7heo> yeah
[15:42] <Lartza> Install the new firmware and possibly kernel manually :P
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[15:42] <Lartza> The firmware is available from a foundation github iirc, kernel you might need the alpine one but you could fetch it from their mirrors and unpack
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[15:46] <^7heo> yeah but I hopped to do that quickly between two tickets today
[15:46] <^7heo> and it seems that it's a ticket by itself now
[15:46] <^7heo> so...
[15:46] <^7heo> yeah, delegated/delayed/etc.
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[15:58] <ShorTie> i'd grab raspbian to see if it still works, but sounds like it does
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[15:58] <ebarch> you can find the firmware files here if needed: https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware
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[15:58] <ShorTie> just need newly compiled kernel and firmware
[15:58] <ebarch> (specifically the boot dir)
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[16:06] <solsTiCe> hi. I have a konig bluetooth usb dongle. bluetoothctl is able to detect my laptop for example. But I am more interested in btmon, btscanner or bleah to work and they don't even see that said laptop. Why ? I have archlinnux-arm installed with bluez 5. Oh may be those use the old bluez 4 ??
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[16:09] <codyst> Anyone use a RPI as a Blue Iris remote viewing station?
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[17:05] <Tenkawa> Anyone had any luck getting the usb to serial gadget mode working on the zero lately?
[17:05] <Habbie> i did it a few months ago
[17:06] <Tenkawa> Habbie: yeah this only seems to be a recent problem
[17:06] <Habbie> ok
[17:06] <Tenkawa> from what I read I'm not the only one either
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[17:22] <Tenkawa> well darn
[17:22] <Tenkawa> cannot figure this out atm
[17:23] <Tenkawa> guess I'll try after eating some food...
[17:23] <tempate> Hello. I'm trying to write data to an EEPROM with a RPi 2B+. I have written this code (https://bpaste.net/show/9aa6018c46f8) which should do the job. The test is writing some data and when reading it it does work. The problem comes when I try to read the data manually (it's all 0s). Does anyone know what the problem might be?
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[17:23] <tempate> The EEPROM is a 28C16A, btw
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[18:03] <tempate> Anyone around?
[18:05] <ebarch> there are plenty of us around :P but no one who's familiar with your issue at the moment
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[18:08] <Syliss> i didnt see the issue but who knows
[18:08] <^7heo> tempate: where did you get that code?
[18:09] <tempate> ^7heo: I wrote it myself. I got the basic idea from http://www.instructables.com/id/Raspberry-Pi-Python-EEPROM-Programmer/ and https://github.com/beneater/eeprom-programmer
[18:10] <^7heo> tempate: yeah I didn't mean to ask where you found the idea of putting the code in functions and arrays ;)
[18:10] <tempate> ebarch: I figured, just wanted to make sure
[18:10] <^7heo> tempate: but yeah thanks for pointing where you found the data.
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[18:11] <^7heo> tempate: full disclaimer, I have zero idea about how that works in python, I only did it in C.
[18:11] <tempate> ^7heo: alright. I basically just read the GPIO docs, those two articles/implementations and went through
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[18:11] <^7heo> but I'm writing python for $work so maybe I can figure it out.
[18:11] <tempate> I see, thanks for giving it a try
[18:12] <^7heo> Also, you're sure about your eeprom wiring?
[18:12] <^7heo> and/or connections
[18:12] <tempate> The weird thing is GPIO is reading something the chip doesn't have. It reads that same data even when the chip isn't connected and the code is executed.
[18:12] <tempate> ^7heo: as sure as I can be
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[18:13] <^7heo> Did you test the connectivity with a multimeter or something?
[18:13] <tempate> nope, I don't own one :|
[18:13] <^7heo> I mean, it is *probably* the code or some python/GPIO/whatever shenanigans
[18:13] <^7heo> But it doesn't cost much to check
[18:13] <^7heo> ah ok
[18:13] <^7heo> that blows.
[18:14] <^7heo> if you can, get a cheap one, it's literally a dozen bucks.
[18:14] <^7heo> it really does not hurt to be able to round down what's wrong.
[18:15] <BurtyB> tempate, isn't that a 5V part?
[18:15] <^7heo> and reading only zeroes could mean anything, including a chip not enabled/on/up.
[18:15] <^7heo> sooo...
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[18:15] <stiv> tempate, sounds like you are reading the pins rather than the chip. i'd suspect the chip isn't being enabled for read or write
[18:16] <^7heo> or not at all
[18:16] <stiv> read and/or write.
[18:17] <BurtyB> if it is 5v as I think it is then it prob won't work with 3.3v or if it has 5v you've poss toasted the gpio pins.. unless you have other hardware?
[18:17] <tempate> BurtyB: what is? the chip? I've read to only use the 3.3V pins as I could burn my pi if not, so I just figured I'd go with them
[18:17] <^7heo> stiv: you know what would happen if CE wasn't up, right?
[18:17] <stiv> nope
[18:17] <tempate> ^7heo: yeah, I should have probably already done so at this point
[18:17] <^7heo> same thing as tempate describes.
[18:17] <stiv> just looking at the code and possible failure modes
[18:17] <^7heo> so it's not just read and/or write.
[18:17] <BurtyB> tempate, the Pi only provides/accepts 3.3v .. the chip possibly wants 5v
[18:18] <^7heo> stiv: sure, but before you debug the code, let's be sure the chip is getting setup properly
[18:18] <^7heo> like, wiring, connectivity, and as BurtyB suggests, voltage.
[18:18] <^7heo> it's not uncommon for chips to want 5 or 12V yeah
[18:18] <tempate> V CC Supply Voltage – 0.3 to 6.5 V
[18:18] <tempate> V IO Input/Output Voltage – 0.3 to V CC +0.6 V
[18:18] <tempate> V I Input Voltage – 0.3 to 6.5 V
[18:18] <^7heo> okay, that's cool
[18:18] <BurtyB> looks like the datasheet says 5v +/-10%
[18:19] <BurtyB> tempate, thats the max ratings not operation
[18:19] <^7heo> BurtyB: where did you get the ref of what eeprom tempate is using?!
[18:19] <BurtyB> ^7heo, <tempate> The EEPROM is a 28C16A, btw
[18:19] <^7heo> aaaah
[18:19] <^7heo> well, that helps.
[18:19] * ^7heo needs less coffee and more sleeps
[18:19] <BurtyB> which sounded antique to me ;)
[18:19] <tempate> yeah, kind of
[18:19] <^7heo> whatever works, right?
[18:20] <tempate> so, BurtyB, what do you suggest?
[18:20] <^7heo> microchip stuff is nice sometimes
[18:20] <tempate> should I power up the chip with 5V?
[18:20] <^7heo> until you try their compiler.
[18:20] <BurtyB> tempate, use a different eeprom or use a different tool to program it
[18:20] <^7heo> tempate: you should try to drive a 5V with the PI even, depending what you want
[18:20] <tempate> I'm following Ben Eater's guide. The thing is he's using an Arduino and as I didn't want to buy one I just rolled with what I haev
[18:20] <^7heo> tempate: that way you can have 5V on everything.
[18:21] <tempate> ^7heo: what do you mean?
[18:21] <tempate> would using the 5V pins and not reading from the chip be alright?
[18:21] <^7heo> tempate: you can use transistors or other means to change the voltage of a circuit
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[18:22] <tempate> I'm aware. But how is that any different from using the 5V pins?
[18:22] <^7heo> does the PI have 5V pins?
[18:22] <stiv> arduino vs pi suggests voltage problems
[18:22] * ^7heo has no idea what the PI has
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[18:23] <tempate> yes
[18:23] <^7heo> oh
[18:23] <^7heo> then use that? :D
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[18:23] <BurtyB> the pi can supply 5v .. tho you wouldn't want to hook that to the eeprom as it's going to put 5v on it's outputs/pullups/etc
[18:23] <BurtyB> and you're connecting those to the gpio pins on the pi and they'll prob go bye bye
[18:23] <tempate> that was going to be my initial approach, but I read I could fry my pi and therefore used the other ones
[18:24] <^7heo> yeah what BurtyB said.
[18:24] <tempate> there we go
[18:24] <tempate> then I'm kind of screwed, aren't I?
[18:24] <^7heo> nah
[18:24] <BurtyB> tempate, I'd go read the instrucatable again .. step 1 also says not to use 5v.. you will need to either use a 5v arduino or something else
[18:24] <^7heo> drive transistors
[18:24] <^7heo> with the PI
[18:26] <tempate> BurtyB: would it fry the pi even if I don't read from it?
[18:27] <^7heo> tempate: https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/81580/step-up-3-3v-to-5v-for-digital-i-o
[18:27] <^7heo> Here you go
[18:27] <ebarch> tempate: it could. those I/O pins could still hit 5V (for instance, if HIGH is their default state). you really don't want to connect 5V peripherals
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[18:28] <ebarch> outputs (from the Pi to an external device) are fine. it's the inputs you have to worry about (i.e. device to Pi)
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[18:29] <ebarch> you _might_ be able to get by with some resistors for level shifting, though
[18:29] <ebarch> https://randomnerdtutorials.com/how-to-level-shift-5v-to-3-3v/
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[18:30] <tempate> alright, thank you all. I'll look into it and come back :D
[18:30] <^7heo> ebarch: a divider can work there
[18:31] <^7heo> ebarch: if that's what your link is suggesting.
[18:31] <ebarch> yup. that's in the URL I linked.
[18:31] <^7heo> ok
[18:31] <^7heo> :D
[18:31] <ebarch> but it doesn't always work if you have a high data rate :P
[18:31] <ebarch> the dedicated level shifter would be ideal for sure
[18:31] <^7heo> yeah but we're not talking about HDMI 2 here ;)
[18:32] <ebarch> you don't run all your EEPROMs off HDMI? ;P
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[18:33] <^7heo> ebarch: nah, sometimes I use display port.
[18:33] <^7heo> daisy chaining's cool
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[18:37] <^7heo> ebarch: I usually avoid touching high freq stuff like HDMI/DP
[18:37] <^7heo> ebarch: it's a pain to work with
[18:37] <^7heo> ebarch: unless you buy specific hardware, like purposely-made FPGAs, then it's okay.
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[18:37] <^7heo> s/purpose/purposed/
[18:37] <ebarch> the best way to get an engineer to do something is to tell him/her that they shouldn't do it
[18:38] <^7heo> Don't come over here and finish my tickets while I go clubbing ;)
[18:38] <ebarch> haha
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[19:26] <Tenkawa> just to make sure I'm not misremembering...(I might be) does the pi zero usb serial gadget need to be an otg connection?
[19:27] <Habbie> what else would it be?
[19:27] <Habbie> there is no usb A on the zero
[19:27] <Tenkawa> Habbie: but theres micro usb cables that arent otg
[19:28] <Tenkawa> right?
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[19:28] <Tenkawa> or is that the standard spec?
[19:28] <Tenkawa> (this is the part i dont know)
[19:28] <Habbie> unless they are charging only
[19:28] <Habbie> they would work
[19:28] <Tenkawa> ahhhh
[19:28] <Tenkawa> well shoot
[19:28] <Tenkawa> I dont see why this isnt working
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[19:33] <JimBuntu> You can use microUSB with OTG, normal microUSB cables aren't going to activate the OTG
[19:35] <Tenkawa> JimBuntu: read that sentence again
[19:36] <Tenkawa> did I miss something you typed?
[19:36] <Tenkawa> i see the same thing typed twice
[19:36] <Tenkawa> (not being sarcastic)
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[19:36] <Habbie> ah wait i know what's going wrong here
[19:36] <Habbie> all the popular docs about the gadgets mention otg
[19:36] <Habbie> while in fact in those cases you are NOT doing otg
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[19:37] <Tenkawa> ahhhh
[19:37] <Tenkawa> Its actually gadget right?
[19:37] <Habbie> yes
[19:38] <Tenkawa> now to figure out how to get it to work
[19:39] <JimBuntu> Decent article about this - https://gist.github.com/gbaman/50b6cca61dd1c3f88f41
[19:40] <Tenkawa> I've read that article numerous times
[19:40] <Tenkawa> its not that its setup isnt working... its the device isnt communicating
[19:41] <Tenkawa> there we go
[19:41] <Tenkawa> thats better
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[19:42] <Tenkawa> got the bus to error with a change I made
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[19:42] <Tenkawa> it needed modules explicitly loaded
[19:43] <Tenkawa> in /etc/modules
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[19:44] <Tenkawa> yep
[19:44] <Tenkawa> sees it nicely now
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[19:47] <Habbie> JimBuntu, except it confusingly mentions OTG a few times :)
[19:48] <Habbie> JimBuntu, but otherwise it is very good yes
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[19:48] <Tenkawa> for setup i agree it writes out the steps well
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[19:58] <zer0her0> I keep getting this error whenever I try to run 'sudo rpi-update' on my RPi 1, my 2 & 3 updated just fine. Anyone know what could be the issue? https://gist.github.com/zer0her0/09b616cc53f3b154b5bd32dc70be67f2
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[20:04] <kenden> Hi, I've got a weird problem: uname -a confirms I am on kernel version 4.9.80-v7+, but when I look in /lib/modules I only have folders for 4.14.30+ 4.14.30-v7+ 4.14.33+ 4.14.33-v7+
[20:04] <stiltr> zer0her0: For whatever reason your download is getting cut off: curl: (18) transfer closed with 20564322 bytes remaining to read
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[20:05] <kenden> I have no clue how this happened - as far as I know I only did apt upgrades, does anyone know what I did and how I fix it. I've spent a day googling and feel like I'm going round in circles
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[20:07] <zer0her0> stiltr that's what I was assuming, but now idea why that would be. both the RPi 2 & 3 are on the same wired network w/o issue.
[20:08] <zer0her0> Oh I should mention, I've tried it 2 rebooted and this was the 3rd attempt
[20:08] <zer0her0> 2x
[20:09] <AfonsoHenriques> Hello friends. I'm looking for a way to config an IRC server into RPi I a way that people could be able to connect into the server through no-ip (for instance).
[20:09] <AfonsoHenriques> Any nice tips? Thanks in advance.
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[20:14] <stiltr> zer0her0: Maybe a disk space issue?
[20:15] <stiltr> kenden: Maybe just upgrade your kernel to one that matches your modules?
[20:15] <zer0her0> Ah good idea, I have a decent size card in there I think...pretty sure I upgraded it when I got 2 & 3. I'll ssh in and check
[20:17] <zer0her0> stiltr "/dev/root 30G 22G 6.8G 77% /" surely that update is less then 7GB in size?
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[20:17] <stiltr> check df -i as well. Shouldn't be your problem though. Are you running it from /tmp or something?
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[20:20] <kenden> stiltr: thanks, would I use sudo apt-get install --reinstall raspberrypi-bootloader raspberrypi-kernel
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[20:21] <stiltr> That should do it, but somebody else might know better.
[20:22] <kenden> stiltr: thanks for your help, I'll give it a go. There's nothing stopping me reflashing my SD card but I'd like to have a go at fixing it first!
[20:23] <stiltr> No problem! That's the fun of linux, it's almost always recoverable. = )
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[20:29] <zer0her0> stiltr "/dev/root 1868640 146345 1722295 8% /" and what do you mean running from /tmp?
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[20:36] <stiltr> Ok, looks like you're good on inodes. Nevermind the /tmp thing. It looks like it uses /root/.rpi-firmware/ for the download. I'm not really sure what's causing the problem. Anybody else more familiar with rpi-update?
[20:41] <zer0her0> I'll try posting to the forum in a bit as well, just prefer the instanceness of IRC
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[20:43] <shbrngdo> gordonDrogon - you here? I'm trying to figure out how to get a link to a particular source version on your github site that doesn't involve an alphabet-soup following a '?' on index.html ... [this is for making a port of it for FreeBSD]
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[20:44] <Tenkawa> yay success
[20:44] <gordonDrogon> shbrngdo, hi.
[20:45] <shbrngdo> is there a friendlier version that contains an actual file name? programs like wget and fetch don't really like that version much
[20:45] <shbrngdo> oops meant to go /msg on that last one
[20:45] <Tenkawa> now i'm directly running in gadget mode
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[20:55] <codyst> Can anyone tell me what the & does in this code? https://pastebin.com/fi336SXb
[20:55] <gordonDrogon> it means 2 things:
[20:55] <Habbie> it puts xdotools in the background so the script can continue on immediately
[20:56] <gordonDrogon> 1. you really need to learn more about how unix shells work and 2. it means to run the command in the background.
[20:56] <Habbie> it definitely means both of those things
[20:56] <Habbie> it also does not make sense in this script
[20:56] <gordonDrogon> so the commands carrys on running when the script ends.
[20:56] <codyst> I didn't create the code :P
[20:56] <codyst> Was looking for a simple auto refresher for a security camera viewer kiosk
[20:57] <Habbie> hmm for xdotool it wouldn't make sense; i don't know what xdotools is
[20:57] <codyst> so if the page gets an error it will eventually fix itself
[20:57] <codyst> in chromium that is
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[21:00] <codyst> @Habbie: xdotools simulates keyboard input
[21:01] <Habbie> i know xdotool does
[21:01] <Habbie> i don't know xdotools
[21:01] <Habbie> that is all i am saying :)
[21:01] <Habbie> but if this is chromium, there are plenty of chrome extensions that can do autoreload
[21:01] <codyst> yeah, but I also need it to do a few second delay after the forced refresh to also type a `
[21:02] <codyst> which changes the UI of the page
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[21:05] <codyst> Habbie: https://pastebin.com/rDJ29mCE
[21:05] <codyst> Sufficient?
[21:06] <Habbie> ah so it is xdotool
[21:06] <Habbie> i still bet it could be done with an extension
[21:06] <Habbie> but if it works :)
[21:06] <codyst> Yup, I looked it up. Like I said, I didn't make the original
[21:06] <codyst> time to test :)
[21:07] <stiltr> I think you can drop the '=' as well, but if it works, it works. haha
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[21:10] <wonderer> hi guys
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[21:10] <wonderer> is it easy to setup a rpi to use a nas drive?
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[21:14] <stiltr> Use as in mount? Or act as a NAS?
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[21:18] <Tenkawa> brb
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[21:20] <Tenkawa> ok thats better
[21:21] <Tenkawa> needed to get my port speed settings a bit faster than 9600
[21:21] <Tenkawa> heheh
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[21:21] <zer0her0> hehe using the internet like it's the mid 90s again.
[21:23] <Tenkawa> heh those were the fun days
[21:23] <IwandeRerC> dial-up/
[21:23] <IwandeRerC> ?*
[21:24] <codyst> Habbie: Well, that code doesn't work lol
[21:24] <Tenkawa> i still remember 300 baud dial up bbs's before that
[21:24] <codyst> Error: Can't open display: (null)
[21:24] <codyst> Failed creating new xdo instance
[21:24] <Tenkawa> yes I''m old
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[21:26] <codyst> ahh, I have to add export DISPLAY apparently
[21:26] <zer0her0> I think my first was only 2400
[21:27] <zer0her0> just missed the BBS days, helped my mom was a professor at uni so we had dialup unix/internet access pretty early on.
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[21:30] * JimBuntu still has a 300 baud modem, SLIP and an acoustic coupling modem for AT&T phones.
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[21:31] <Solak> Hello.
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[21:32] <zer0her0> actually we might've had a acoustic coupler/300 baud modem but it was already in the attic by the time i became aware of it
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[21:35] * Solak could use some tips on how to determine/solve a specific problem: after updating raspbian-ua-netinst (apt-get dist-upgrade), the Pi2 didn't start anymore after a 'shutdown -r now' command (it only displays the rainbow-screen).
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[21:36] <Solak> I tried fsck on the boot-partition, boot_delay=1, but none of these seem to help.
[21:36] <Solak> the micro-sd card is perfectly readable/writeable on a pc.
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[21:47] <zer0her0> aight i'm out lata
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[22:10] <wonderer> setting static wlan0 interface in /etc/dhcpd.conf is ok todo?
[22:10] <wonderer> or its actually eth0 i stick with even though rpi is on wifi?
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[22:12] <stiltr> wifi = wlan0
[22:12] <wonderer> this ok https://pastebin.com/j1irRdhX
[22:13] <wonderer> nano /etc/dhcpcd.con
[22:13] <wonderer> nano /etc/dhcpcd.conf
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[22:15] <Tenkawa> ok time to try to upgrade my zero-w to a zero-wh
[22:15] <Tenkawa> bbl
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[22:15] <stiltr> wonderer: That looks right.
[22:16] <wonderer> thx
[22:16] <wonderer> halt -p
[22:17] <wonderer> best way?
[22:17] <wonderer> restart not good
[22:17] <Solak> ?
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[22:21] <stiltr> ~# reboot
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[22:22] <stiltr> Solak: Sounds like something in /boot/ probably got corrupted.
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[22:33] <cheekio> I am about to embark on my quest
[22:33] <cheekio> wish me luck
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[22:33] <cheekio> ...wrong chat
[22:34] <stiltr> Good luck anyway! lol
[22:34] <Solak> stiltr: the 0x25 message from fsck makes sense in that case, I assume that despite the lack of errors when fixing the fs, there's still a chance a file got damaged.
[22:35] <Solak> stiltr: now, the major question is: can it be solved without reinstalling by getting the (updated) files from another source?
[22:36] <stiltr> You can grab the boot dir from https://github.com/RPi-Distro/firmware
[22:40] <ebarch> hmm, curious why you linked to that fork, rather than https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware
[22:40] <ebarch> (which is the official foundation repo)
[22:40] <Solak> stiltr: with: "git clone https://github.com/RPi-Distro/firmware/boot bootlocalcopydir"?
[22:41] <Solak> ebarch: I installed from raspbian-ua-netinst...
[22:41] <ebarch> Solak: I was actually asking stiltr
[22:42] <ebarch> he linked to someone's fork of the official firmware
[22:42] <stiltr> ebarch: I probably should have linked to the official repo. I used the fork for something else recently so that was what came to mind first.
[22:42] <ebarch> ah, gotcha. more just curious than anything
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[22:43] <waveform> doesn't really matter; RPi-Distro is also foundation controlled
[22:43] <Solak> ebarch: isn't raspbian-ua-netinst a fork of the full raspbian installer?
[22:44] <stiltr> waveform: Ok, that's what I was thinking, but I couldn't remember. Thanks!
[22:44] <ebarch> TIL :)
[22:45] <ebarch> Solak: talking about git repos, not the OS release :P
[22:46] <stiltr> Solak: You'll have to do a full clone of the repo unless you want to do a "sparse" clone of just boot.
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[22:47] <stiltr> Or just grab each file one by one.
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[22:50] <ebarch> GitHub has a download button if you don't want to use git, also
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[22:54] <Solak> stiltr: I'm used to cvs and svn, but never used git to create a local working dir (only as local versioning system).
[22:55] <Solak> stiltr: from the docs online I get the idea that it's either all, the complete project, or nothing.
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[22:57] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[22:57] <stiltr> Solak: What you want is called a sparse clone or sparse checkout. It's probably more work to explain than it's worth though.
[22:59] <ShapeShifter499> I'm having this odd issue that I couldn't find much about online. I have 4 raspberry pi zeros in ethernet gadget mode. They are getting the same exact MAC address on the host device and it's leading to duplicate IPv6 addresses. Does anyone know how I could fix this? This is what my Pi Zeros show up as on the host "cdc_eem 1-1.2:1.0 usb1: register 'cdc_eem' at usb-40200100.ehci-1.2, CDC EEM Device,
[22:59] <ShapeShifter499> 8e:b7:d8:19:3d:da"
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[23:01] <Tenkawa> there we go
[23:01] <Tenkawa> switched over to the zero-wh
[23:01] <Tenkawa> case had to be "tweaked"
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[23:17] <Solak> stiltr: I guess I have to read the git manual more thoroughly on that, some time... :) thanks.
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[23:21] <Solak> stiltr: and thanks for the help!
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[23:35] <stiltr> Solak: No worries!
[23:36] <CarlFK> what model pi is this? https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/flPpccplqnqUfzmNUxNgshve
[23:37] <CarlFK> and where can I find something showing the location of the mounting holes (which are weird: only 2 )
[23:40] <Habbie> the 2011,12 copyright should be enough info
[23:40] <Tenkawa> i'd say thats an old model 1
[23:40] <Habbie> sounds likely
[23:40] <Tenkawa> and the rca jack too
[23:41] <Habbie> uhuh
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[23:42] <MacGeek> CarlFK: http://www.raspiworld.com/images/other/drawings/Raspberry-Pi-1-Model-B.pdf
[23:42] <CarlFK> do all the model 1's have the same mounting holes?
[23:42] <Tenkawa> i dug a few of my old first gen units out of the closet the other day
[23:42] <CarlFK> thanks - B sounds familiar
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[23:42] <Tenkawa> CarlFK: best to look it up on the raspberry pi site
[23:43] <MacGeek> it's not on the official site
[23:43] <CarlFK> Tenkawa: I looked, couldn't find anything for any model
[23:43] <MacGeek> the official site has mechanical drawings for zero, 1b+, 3b and 3b+
[23:43] <MacGeek> https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/mechanical/
[23:43] <Tenkawa> MacGeek: they pulled the schematics?
[23:43] <Tenkawa> wow
[23:43] <MacGeek> http://www.raspiworld.com/viewtopic.php?t=13 here you can find mechanical drawings for all versions
[23:44] <stiltr> Tenkawa: https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/schematics/README.md
[23:45] <Tenkawa> stiltr: i wasnt looking for it
[23:45] <Tenkawa> i was saying it had to be there
[23:46] <MacGeek> they still have schematics, but they don't have mechanical drawings for the early boards
[23:46] <Tenkawa> what a shame
[23:47] <stiltr> Tenkawa: Ah, my bad.
[23:47] <Tenkawa> stiltr: np
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[23:48] <Tenkawa> now that I got my zero working in gadget mode... time to play with getting some stuff working with its gpio
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[23:50] <Siorai> Hey everyone, so I got a question about image file storage for a database that lives on my raspberry pi3.
[23:51] <seek^126> sry, can i use a powercord which works for the rPi 1b for the new 3b+ ?? do they have the same energy input?
[23:51] <seek^126> Siorai: just ask your question and provide any usefull details
[23:52] <Siorai> I know the technical limits of the FS are rather large when it comes to the amount of files, but, I'm wondering, if I have around 6,000 records, and anywhere from 1-5 images ( avg probably 3 ) at about 40-50KB each, if I should worry about breaking it down further than folders of 1,000.
[23:52] <stiltr> seek^126: They don't have the same power requirements, but it might work depending on what periferals you're using.
[23:53] <MacGeek> seek^126: the 3B+ requires a lot more power
[23:53] <Siorai> Yeah, suggested is like, 5V@2.5A yeah?
[23:53] <seek^126> stiltr, thank you guys. i'll order the 3b+ now. so i'll just order a powercord too
[23:54] <Siorai> seek^126 it's also what your plugging it -into-
[23:54] <MacGeek> yes, 2.5A recommended, and it must be able to keep up with very fast amperage changes
[23:54] <mfa298> CarlFK: SSome of the earliest Pi1B didnt hae any mounting holes. the rest should all have two in the same positions.
[23:56] <stiltr> Siorai: You're storing your images outside of your DB?
[23:56] <Siorai> I mean I've had mine powered up by my anker 6 port USB charger ever since it arrive, thuogh I just have the 3B ( I think, the one just before this most recent one )
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[23:56] <CarlFK> mfa298: thanks - the ones I have have holes, so glad I don't to worry about the holes moving around ;)
[23:56] <seek^126> i'm not sure yet but i think i wont use any periferals at all. i'll just use it headless as a server... maybe i'm going to attach speakers and install shairport too.. but idk yet..
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[23:57] <seek^126> is the audio jack of the 3b+ a big upgrade compared to the old one?? mostlikely i'll use a usb soundcard if i'm going to install shairport
[23:57] <Siorai> stiltr: yeah. given the fact that it's going to grow to get to be in the hundreds of thousands.
[23:58] <Siorai> Now there's a question. I wonder if anyone's got any of those inexpensive FiiO DACs to work it a Pi
[23:58] <stiltr> As long as it's ext4, there's no limit on files per directory.
[23:58] <seek^126> Siorai, i used a DAC for me rPi 1b
[23:58] <Siorai> Right, it's not the limitation on the filesystem, it's a matter of effeciency.
[23:59] <stiltr> Are you searching for the images or just retrieving them?
[23:59] <Siorai> At some point, having to put like, thuosands and thousands of filenames into a single hash table.
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