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IRC Log for 2018-04-18

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[0:00] <stiltr> dysfigured: If you've got a kernel, it should work fine.
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[0:34] <stiv> i suspect the issue isn't the kernel but the drivers to pi-specific hardware.
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[0:39] <GrandPa-G> Nerobro:are you there? Talking about motors from this morning
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[1:02] <stiltr> stiv: The kernel either has the drivers built-in or loads them as modules, so that pretty much takes care of it.
[1:03] <stiv> "loads them as modules"
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[1:04] <stiltr> I generally include modules as part of "have a kernel", but I suppose I could have been more specific. Either way, I'm running devuan, so I don't see why debian wouldn't work.
[1:06] <ShorTie> but doesn't udev load the modules ??
[1:06] <ShorTie> not the kernel, it just makes them
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[1:07] <stiltr> Or they can be loaded manually, but I don't believe the RPF has any downstream changes for udev.
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[1:11] <Nerobro> GrandPa-G, I am back now
[1:12] <GrandPa-G> Nerobro:would it be best offline or do you care?
[1:12] <Nerobro> I don't care a whole lot. :-) /msg is effective for me
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[1:13] <GrandPa-G> high school engineering project. Real cheap $. crude wheels, circles cut out of wood. Has a simple 300mz transmitter receiver. Needs 5 volts for reciever and motor driver chip. Has 9 volt battery packs already on.
[1:14] <Nerobro> now big?
[1:14] <GrandPa-G> Has tried some ardunio dc motors (not stepper) and the rpm too high, torque too low. Looked at stepper but they look like min $10 each. Is this basically what he needs motor wise?
[1:15] <Nerobro> steppers are bad for driving things that are heavy
[1:15] <Nerobro> you want a geared DC motor
[1:15] <Nerobro> the cheapest thing to do, is use big o-rings, and those 3v DC motors.
[1:15] <Nerobro> wrap the o-ring or rubber band around the wheel, and stretch it to meet the motor
[1:15] <GrandPa-G> It is made out of a cardboard chassis about 12 in long and 6 in wide
[1:15] <Nerobro> that will give you the gearing you need.
[1:16] <GrandPa-G> interesting idea. He is currently just hot gluing the motor on so I don't know if the rubber band will pull the motor off but a really good thought.
[1:17] <GrandPa-G> That also so give me a bit more torque?
[1:17] <Nerobro> it'll give you a rather significant gear reduction
[1:17] <Nerobro> which should let them move the cart.
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[1:19] <GrandPa-G> I think he needs better wheels to also be able to utilize the rubber band. It is just a circular disk made from 1/4" pressed board cut with jigsaw. Not very circular.
[1:20] <Nerobro> that's going to be a big deal. 12x6" is also large and awkward if you're trying to do steering by differntially powering the wheels.
[1:20] <GrandPa-G> I am trying to convience him to buy a junk toy car are goodwill and use chassis and wheels.
[1:21] <Nerobro> That's a good idea.
[1:21] <GrandPa-G> He is trying to build a "tank" without body so far
[1:21] <Nerobro> Tanks need a lot of power. watts.... or they're very very slow
[1:22] <GrandPa-G> I think he doesn't want to give up what he has done, but that is engineering at its best. Build prototype find what doesn't work, adjust and take other's ideas.
[1:22] <Nerobro> 2:1 lentth to widto ratio isn't goign to work for a tank either
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[1:24] <GrandPa-G> the motor is what comes with the ardunio kit (I think a student kit in red box).
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[1:25] <Nerobro> I suspect I know the motor, but i'm not seeing it listed.
[1:26] <Nerobro> no matter what of the little motors it might be, it's goign to need severe gear reduction to move the thign, and won't move it very well.
[1:26] <Nerobro> if he's clever, he can pick up some servo motors.
[1:26] <GrandPa-G> He also has to get 5 volts
[1:26] <Nerobro> and modify them for continious rotation
[1:27] <Nerobro> those are about $5-9 each
[1:27] <Nerobro> or he can pick up continious rotation servo motors, they're $10 each. Or... he can start digging hhrough toys
[1:27] <GrandPa-G> this might be the kit https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=13955&gclid=Cj0KCQjwttbWBRDyARIsAN8zhbJ0oawqi_phkTiKDVfEHn9uTEzZLGMJA8SgNsyxR33FJM3TcDskySoaAoXzEALw_wcB
[1:28] <Nerobro> that motor needs a 20-50:1 gear ratio to do much work
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[1:29] <GrandPa-G> but I don't think he has the servo in the kit. It just looks the same from the case from what I remember.
[1:29] <Nerobro> without a transistor, or fet, hell be burning ports on the arduino
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[1:30] <Nerobro> bbiab
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[1:32] <GrandPa-G> I think this is the motor https://www.adafruit.com/product/711 No arduino being used. Get clean!
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[2:29] <Nerobro> GrandPa-G, still around? That motor is 1.5 watts
[2:29] <Nerobro> tha'ts not gonna do much for that tank.
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[3:00] <shbrngdo> a typical servo will use PWM to control it. I think they expect it to be 2khz PWM. 50% duty cycle gives you a 'center' position but of course that kind of servo would have at least 3 wires, one for the power, one for the signal, one for ground.
[3:01] <shbrngdo> I've played with them a bit. drove the PWM line with an arduino. you should be able to do the same with PWM out on the RPi
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[3:06] <dysfigured> anybody know the default login for raspbian i can't seem to find it in the docs
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[3:06] <shauno> pi/raspberry
[3:08] <dysfigured> thanks a lot
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[3:11] <ball> I have the choice between building a modest but practical PC (using mostly scrap parts) or a Raspberry Pi cluster. :-)
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[3:13] <ball> The most awkward part is power, unless I put together a simple bussbar.
[3:14] <shauno> what's it for?
[3:15] <ball> Mostly teaching myself MPI.
[3:16] <shauno> the pi might actually be the right answer then :)
[3:16] <red9> Consider that the +5V will have the volts dropped along the busbar.
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[3:19] * ball nods
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[3:27] <dysfigured> zsh is not available on raspbian? what.the.fuck.
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[3:29] <dysfigured> aand neither is tmux. what in the world
[3:29] <dysfigured> do i have to enable default debian repos?
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[3:36] <d0rm0us3> 'apt-cache search zsh'
[3:36] <d0rm0us3> :)
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[3:36] <d0rm0us3> That's for you dysfigured
[3:37] <dysfigured> d0rm0us3: i've been using debian for years, i know how to search for packages, and it's not in my repos
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[3:38] <dysfigured> apt-cache search zsh | wc -l -> 0
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[3:39] <d0rm0us3> It's on my raspbian repo
[3:40] <d0rm0us3> I get 20 hits
[3:41] <dysfigured> would you mind more /etc/sources.list{,.d/*} | pastebin
[3:41] <d0rm0us3> apt-cache search zsh | wc -l
[3:41] <d0rm0us3> 20
[3:41] <shauno> if you're getting nothing, you've probably just never run apt-get update? apt's cache is probably clean on a new install to save space
[3:41] <dysfigured> first thing i do after any install is apt update
[3:41] <ball> First thing I do after any install is put the kettle on.
[3:41] <dysfigured> like i say, been using debian for years
[3:42] <ball> I figure I've earned a nice cup of tea.
[3:42] <dysfigured> ball: ok you're right, second thing lol
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[3:42] <shauno> I get 21 hits on the same query, so it's in the repo, something else is wrong
[3:42] <dysfigured> right, it's gotta be my repo config, which is why i was asking for someone else's
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[3:43] <dysfigured> would you mind more /etc/sources.list{,.d/*} | command curl -sF 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[3:44] <ball> brb
[3:45] <shauno> /etc/apt/ ;) but http://paste.debian.net/1020829/
[3:45] <dysfigured> oh derp
[3:45] <shauno> you probably want to s/jessie/stretch/ on a new image though
[3:46] <shauno> I'd be curious if apt-get update throws up any errors though. I can't see why you'd have a different sources.list to any other image
[3:46] <dysfigured> hmmm the only difference between ours is you're tracking jessie and i'm on stretch
[3:47] <dysfigured> which makes me think that what i'm looking for isn't in stretch yet
[3:48] <shauno> I'd be very surprised if there's absolutely nothing match zsh in stretch either. especially since, for some reason, csh is matching the same search, which has been in unix longer than I ahve
[3:50] <shauno> actually, I have one I know is a recent image, let me fire it up quick
[3:51] <ball> What's Linux software RAID called?
[3:51] <dysfigured> lvm?
[3:51] <ball> Thanks
[3:51] <shauno> I normally use md for raid
[3:51] <ball> Ah, md is the one I was trying to remember.
[3:51] <ball> Thanks shauno
[3:52] <dysfigured> ah, i know that lvm lets you stretch a partition across multiple disks, which is like raid 0 iiuc? idrk shit about raid so..
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[3:54] <ball> dysfigured: I /think/ lvm may let you add disks to the pool (array, whatever it's called), so it's unlike conventional RAID-0 there.
[3:54] <ball> ...that's if I'm right.
[3:56] <ball> Oh good, there are multi-port USB chargers with 2A ports. I may be able to buy one of those instead of rigging up a bussbar.
[3:56] <ball> 2A might be enough for a 2B with nothing plugged in the USB ports.
[3:56] <ball> Well, one of them might have an SSD plugged in.
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[3:57] <ball> Ah, this one's 2.4A per port.
[3:57] <ball> That might do it.
[3:58] <shauno> hm, my shiny new 3b+ isn't firing up. oh dear.
[3:58] <Choscura> ball, that'll be close
[3:58] <Choscura> shauno, got a fresh imaged SD card?
[3:59] <shauno> just watch the total on those things too. it might have 10x2.4A ports but not be rated for 120W overall
[4:01] <shauno> (2.4A*5v=12W. so if it's not rated for 12*ports, you're not going to be able to use them all at 2.4A at the same time)
[4:01] * ball nods
[4:01] <Choscura> there are starting to be plugs like that around, though. They're spendy, but may be worth it depending on budget and application.
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[4:04] <shauno> hm, looks like that card ain't home at all. no SD card, it starts up no rainbow & red led. with the card I was using, same. with a card I know is good but out of date, yes rainbow & flashing green (expected)
[4:05] <Choscura> get an image that's up to date
[4:05] <Choscura> even just a spare 4gb card or whatever to verify it works is worthwhile
[4:05] <shauno> oh I know. I was trying things I can do without getting up first (my cardreader is on another machine)
[4:05] <Choscura> always the way with those card readers, lol
[4:06] <ball> Hmm... they have a six-port 60W one. That'll probably do it.
[4:10] <ball> Oooh, and I can use one of the spare ports to run a cooling fan.
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[4:25] <dogbert2> whatcha doin, ball?
[4:28] <ball> dogbert2: I once laughed at a friend because he talked about building a Raspberry Pi cluster. Now I'm pricing up parts and looking at component layout.
[4:29] <ball> dogbert2: ...also looking for a .WAV editor for something unrelated.
[4:30] <dogbert2> well...my Libre Computer is doing well...ordered a USB Wireless Nano adapter for it...need to stop at Frys this weekend and pick up an 8 port unmanaged switch for the home network :)
[4:31] <ball> dogbert2: I would really like a gigabit switch for the family room but instead I'm pricing up a 100M switch for a Pi cluster ;-)
[4:31] <dogbert2> how many RPi's
[4:32] <dogbert2> you can get a 16 port unmanaged D-Link for like $30-40
[4:32] <ball> dogbert2: Just four Raspberry Pi 2Bs.
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[4:32] <dogbert2> at 10/100 speed
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[4:35] <dogbert2> look at getting an OrangePI Plus 2E
[4:35] <dogbert2> I'm looking, even
[4:36] <ball> dogbert2: I'll start with a four board cluster. Don't want to go too nuts! ;-)
[4:37] <dogbert2> yeah...get yourself a 16 port switch at 10/100 and plug the RPi's and printer in there
[4:38] <dogbert2> run a cat-6 cable from the unmanaged switch to the back of one of your router's LAN ports...
[4:38] <dogbert2> sticking a printer on a gigE lan port is a waste of a port :)
[4:39] <ball> dogbert2: Ah no, this'll be running on a table in a coffee shop.
[4:39] <dogbert2> oh :)
[4:39] <ball> I suppose I could even put a WiFi adaptor on it so that my friends can connect wirelessly to it, for convenience.
[4:41] <dogbert2> LOL...
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[4:42] <ball> If I make the top one a 3B+ instead of a 2B, that would achieve the same end result.
[4:42] <dogbert2> well, I can pick up that switch (D-Link DGS-108 8 port GigE unmanaged) for the same price as Amazon $29.99 (and only pay about 2.50 in sales tax)...so Frys it is
[4:43] * ball sighs
[4:43] <ball> What's an alternative to xwave?
[4:43] * dogbert2 watches as ball deflates
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[5:02] <d0rm0us3> https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4A06F96700
[5:04] <d0rm0us3> I don't really need a gige internal infrastructure, and since I'm on a regulated up/dwn bandwidth pipe.. it won't do me a whole lot of good.. whereas the management is def plus ;)
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[5:07] <ball> d0rm0us3: It's handy for when I'm dragging files between local hosts though.
[5:08] <d0rm0us3> To each their own ;)
[5:09] <d0rm0us3> Think micro-segmentation
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[5:12] <ball> ?
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[5:22] <ball> d0rm0us3: No idea what you meant by that.
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[5:34] <g1i7ch> hello. i setup my raspberry pi 3 as a wireless AP and got everything working. It worked wonderfully. Then I installed pihole, and now wlan0 doesn't show up in ifconfig,iwconfig, and i dont think i see it in dmesg but im not sure.
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[5:37] <SpaceAce> i'd like to auto-mount external drives (NTFS) via USB on plug-in and have them show up as samba shares. Is there a script for this?
[5:37] <SpaceAce> I know my openelec distro does it
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[5:38] <g1i7ch> wlan is still defined in /etc/dnsmasq.conf but i cant find wlan0
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[5:58] <tnewman> yall ever have issues with some displays not working with your Pi 3 via HDMI?
[5:58] <tnewman> tv at home works fine, acer display at work no dice
[5:59] <tnewman> display will flicker like maybe its trying to do something, but i dont get a picture
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[6:06] <ball> tnewman: I haven't seen that.
[6:07] <tnewman> poop
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[6:20] <VoidShift> What camera software does pi use?
[6:23] <VoidShift> I decided to build off a different is than raspian. So I installed Cheese, but it's so slow and laggy
[6:23] <VoidShift> *different OS
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[6:28] <Rukus> hello
[6:28] <Rukus> does anyone know of a safe way to clone a 32GB card to an 8GB card? don't worry, there is not more than 8GB data on the 32GB card
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[6:28] <Rukus> there is maybe less tahn 4GB
[6:31] <leftyfb> Rukus: https://github.com/aoakley/cotswoldjam/tree/master/raspbian-shrink
[6:31] <Rukus> thanks!
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[6:51] <ball> BWAHAHAHA!
[6:53] <VoidShift> No one knows the camera software used?
[6:53] <ball> VoidShift: I don't, sorry.
[6:54] <ball> VoidShift: I fancy a Pi NoIR 2 camera.
[6:54] <ball> VoidShift: ...but I don't use Linux on my Pi.
[6:54] <ball> (yet)
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[6:57] <VoidShift> I don't mean the camera itself. Like I have a generic usb cam for testing, but my OS has no camera interface to pull up. So I tried cheese which was suggested as a good linux compatible software. It sucks. On pi anyways. Even in terminal when I move my hand across and wait 10 seconds to see it, it says something about machine possibly being too slow
[6:58] <dysfigured> ball: what the hell are you using on it then
[6:58] <ball> dysfigured: NetBSD/evbarm
[6:58] <dysfigured> huh. by choice?
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[6:58] <ball> dysfigured: Yes.
[6:58] <dysfigured> i mean, you said "i want bsd on here" rather than "well i need bsd for xyz"
[6:59] <ball> dysfigured: I said "I want the operating system I know how to use on here".
[6:59] <dysfigured> fair enough
[6:59] <VoidShift> Same
[6:59] <dysfigured> i have never tried a bsd, been meaning to... but i keep sticking to the ones i know how to use lol
[7:00] <VoidShift> Idek what a bsd is... lol
[7:00] <ball> dysfigured: I can understand that. For many of us it's a question of time.
[7:00] <VoidShift> I keep hearing of it tho
[7:00] <dysfigured> VoidShift: openbsd, netbsd
[7:00] <ball> VoidShift: BSDs are the open source children of Unix.
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[7:00] <VoidShift> Ah. Ok
[7:00] <ball> Well, mostly.
[7:00] <dysfigured> kinda like how linux itself it just a kernel, when we talk about linux we often refer to a distro shipping a linux kernel
[7:00] <ball> MacOS X probably qualifies as a BSD and large chunks of that are not open source.
[7:00] <ball> ... but that's not BSD's fault.
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[7:00] <dysfigured> bsd is a different kernel, and there are bsd distros that the bsd kernel (iiuc, please correct me if not)
[7:01] <ball> dysfigured: Each BSD has its own kernel.
[7:01] <ball> dysfigured: ...but there's a lot of healthy cross-polination.
[7:01] <dysfigured> wait, so netbsd uses a completely different kernel than openbsd?
[7:01] <ball> Yes
[7:01] <dysfigured> ..then what's the common thread that makes them bsd?
[7:03] <ball> dysfigured: Common heritage, quite a bit of common code and often common developers.
[7:03] <ball> ...common license, too.
[7:04] <ball> We also share quite a lot of application software with Linux.
[7:04] <ball> (and probably some network stack ;-)
[7:05] <dysfigured> huh. TIL. thanks for explaining
[7:05] <ball> You're welcome. I'm sure I'll have questions about Linux when the time comes for me to try that.
[7:05] <ball> I've used it a little bit at work and on my daughter's desktop PC.
[7:09] <binaryhermit> if you have an Android phone or a Chromebook, those are technically linux, though not GNU/Linux
[7:09] <binaryhermit> traditionally, most of what was referred to as Linux was GNU/Linux
[7:09] * binaryhermit isn't trying to be "that guy"
[7:11] <dysfigured> i love telling people their android is linux
[7:11] <mlelstv> you want to be Guy Fleegman instead ?
[7:11] <binaryhermit> that guy as in this copypasta blob
[7:11] <binaryhermit> err
[7:11] <binaryhermit> https://pastebin.com/V9hBsxer
[7:11] <mlelstv> Index: sys/device.h
[7:11] <mlelstv> ===================================================================
[7:11] <mlelstv> RCS file: /cvsroot/src/sys/sys/device.h,v
[7:11] <mlelstv> retrieving revision 1.151
[7:11] <mlelstv> diff -p -u -r1.151 device.h
[7:11] <mlelstv> --- sys/device.h 4 Mar 2018 07:13:11 -0000 1.151
[7:11] <mlelstv> +++ sys/device.h 18 Apr 2018 04:53:14 -0000
[7:11] <mlelstv> @@ -84,6 +84,9 @@
[7:11] <mlelstv> #if defined(_KERNEL) || defined(_KMEMUSER)
[7:11] <mlelstv> #include <sys/mutex.h>
[7:11] <mlelstv> #include <sys/condvar.h>
[7:11] <mlelstv> +#endif
[7:12] * binaryhermit wonders how much GNU there is in the pi3 version of lakka
[7:13] <mlelstv> most modern software has lots of GNU in it
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[7:15] <binaryhermit> lakka's a single-use distro for the purpose of using retroarch
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[7:17] <binaryhermit> like, single-use as it's only meant to be used for one thing
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[7:19] <VoidShift> binaryhermit: how do you add those little subtexts like you're doing something. Like, *scratches chin as he's thinking should he ask such a newbie question*
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[7:20] <binaryhermit> /me
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[7:20] * ball bites a fish
[7:20] * VoidShift test
[7:20] <VoidShift> Ayy
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[7:20] <VoidShift> Thanks lol
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[7:21] <VoidShift> Any other common used little tricks?
[7:22] * ball checks whether /troutslap works here.
[7:22] <HrdwrBoB> not really
[7:22] <HrdwrBoB> IRC is simple
[7:22] <ball> I like IRC, me.
[7:23] <dysfigured> VoidShift: depends on your irc client really
[7:25] <VoidShift> Ohh
[7:25] <dysfigured> i mean /me is usually just an alias for /ctcp action
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[7:26] <VoidShift> I've never used them before, never bothered to look lol
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[9:03] <Hanonim> Hey guys. Experimenting on the PI with linux/gpio.h and libgpiod (the new ways of using GPIO via the char device), there is something I'm not sure about. You can configure a pin to be open-drain or open-source, but also an input. Does it make sense ?
[9:04] <Hanonim> I'm just learning about electrical engineering and I've always read about open-drain outputs
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[9:39] <shiftplusone> Hanonim: may also want to try ##electronics
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[10:15] <gordonDrogon> Hanonim, it may make sense on some processors - I guess that's the issue with a generic interface. However the Pi can both source and sink current - when the pin is in input mode.
[10:15] <gordonDrogon> er, but not when the pin is in input mode.
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[10:16] <gordonDrogon> I've not looked at it, but it might just be that they mean tied to 0v when in open drain mode (ie, output, write 0), and tied to +3.3v when in open source mode (ie. output, write 1)
[10:17] <gordonDrogon> so maybe they just give one operation to efectively mean output mode plus high or low.
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[10:23] <BurtyB> setting it whilst an input would allow probably you to switch to an output with a known state (I do this on one of my HATs with an i/o expander).
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[10:27] <gordonDrogon> no "probably" about it ..
[10:28] <gordonDrogon> the Pi is sensible in that respect. some microcontrollers aren't.
[10:28] <gordonDrogon> however it's 2 separate operations on the pi - set output mode, set pin value - which can be done either way round on the Pi.
[10:29] <gordonDrogon> on the atmega you go through some shenanigans involving setting the internal pull-up first before changing to output mode.
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[10:34] <GenteelBen> What's to stop someone from creating a single board computer named the Strawberri Tart?
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[10:36] <gordonDrogon> nothing.
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[10:50] <Hanonim> gordonDrogon: Thanks, I'll keep experimenting
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[10:51] * extor cannot seem to find any docs on the NEC EE2-3TNJH through google for some reason
[10:52] <Hanonim> shiftplusone: yes, good idea
[10:53] <shauno> extor, are you sure that's a J not a U ?
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[10:54] <shauno> either way, you just want the datasheet for the ee2. you'd think being more specific would help, but it doesn't
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[10:55] <extor> shauno, https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61dTu4L5R8L.jpg
[10:56] <extor> Just trying to figure out 1) If it will work with the zero and 2) Whether it's an actual latching relay or not.
[10:56] <shauno> I believe it is. if you try http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/9537.pdf
[10:56] <shauno> the 3 means 3v coil voltage, the T means "double coil latch type". the partnumber is just a matrix of the featureset
[10:57] <extor> Ahhh
[10:58] <shauno> (this is why being less specific helps. they don't produce a separate datasheet for each variant)
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[10:59] <extor> What I am trying to construct is a relay that will in case one, open a circuit and then for all eternity leave that circuit open even if the pi powers off and in case two, close that same circuit and remain in that state forever even if the pi loses power. Not your usual solenoid relays that fall back to their original state once they lose power
[10:59] <extor> From what I understand, that is what a latching relay is supposed to do.
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[11:01] <extor> Not sure what the maximum amperage is. Perhaps adafruit may have those specs. I guess it depends on the wire gauge of the weakest link in the open/close circuit part of the relay ness pa?
[11:01] <extor> I think I need to study this http://tenuki.fr/nio101/?p=761
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[11:04] <extor> woa...thats is a U!
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[11:06] <extor> You really do know your NEC relays
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[11:08] <shauno> nah, there just isn't an NJH option on the pdf I linked. just NUH, which indicates the package type (eg, the teeny version)
[11:08] <shauno> so I was hoping it was a U else I couldn't find anything uselful either
[11:10] <extor> Evidently adafruit has two of those, with different prices: https://www.amazon.com/Adafruit-Accessories-Non-Latching-Relay-FeatherWing/dp/B01DVS5SK4 and then https://www.amazon.com/Adafruit-Accessories-Latching-Relay-FeatherWing/dp/B01DW4YAWE
[11:10] <shauno> well one's latching and one ain't, which probably makes the price the least relevant difference
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[11:11] <extor> Oh duh
[11:11] <extor> haha
[11:11] <extor> Funnily the non latching one is more expensive!
[11:12] <extor> The latching one has a T in the part name I see
[11:13] <extor> https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61SH0KvRNuL.jpg versus https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61dTu4L5R8L.jpg
[11:13] <shauno> well there's the mysterious world of amazon resellers .. they're both $7.95 on adafruit.com
[11:14] <extor> yikes!
[11:15] <extor> I see NC, COM and NO as the three pins which would be the ones for the circuit to be opened and closed?
[11:15] <extor> I see that on both
[11:16] <extor> And on the latching one I see an unset and set pin, and on the non latching just a signal pin which I assume would close the circuit temporarily
[11:16] <extor> Both have a reset button
[11:16] <shauno> right, this is the same with most relays (and dry contacts). Normally Open, Normally Closed, and Common
[11:19] <extor> So normally open just means in the case of the non latching one especially that hook it up here if you want the circuit to be closed by default.
[11:20] <shauno> right. just whether it should be connected or disconnected at rest
[11:20] <extor> So the common pin would mean hook up one end of the wire here...and then depending on your chosen defaults hook the other wire up in one of the remaining ones either NO or NC
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[11:20] <shauno> so for a latching relay, whether it'll be connected or not after reset. on a non-latching, just where it'll be when the coil isn't powered
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[11:21] <extor> And the coil in the non-latching relay board would need a constant source of 3v in order to keep the electromagnet in the relay in it's energized position or something like that?
[11:22] <extor> s/coil/signal pin on the left/
[11:22] <shauno> exactly
[11:22] <extor> oh wait no...the signal pin just sets the non latching relay to energized position...until the power is lost? Hrmm...not sure about this now
[11:23] <extor> But a sane person would just grab the latching relay I assume since it's a superset of the non-latching relay board in terms of features and possibilities.
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[11:26] <extor> Oooh here it is in action https://cdn-shop.adafruit.com/product-videos/1024x768/2923-04.mp4
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[11:30] <BurtyB> extor, depends if you need it to be in a known state when it powers back on
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[11:32] <extor> I don't suppose the pi has a battery power pack
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[11:33] <extor> It needs 5v DC in.
[11:33] <extor> Looks like ada has evrything https://www.adafruit.com/product/1959
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[11:50] <shauno> indeed. they're pretty good at documenting it too.
[11:51] <shauno> I guess that's the upside of putting a $1.60 relay on a protoboard and selling it for $8 ;) they have to add value *Somewhere*
[11:51] <Ben64> theres a smaller power thingy they have
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[13:58] <Solak> Hello.
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[14:39] <tnewman> hello Solak
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[15:22] <FatalNIX> well this is weird. I can't communicate with this serial device at 34800 baud
[15:22] <FatalNIX> I have to use screen at 34399 for it to work
[15:23] <FatalNIX> I wonder if this will pose a problem when trying to write a script to automate receiving on that serial line
[15:23] <FatalNIX> sorry , 38400 / 38399
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[15:23] <FatalNIX> my hands are frozen
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[15:56] <john_rambo> How do I play all songs in a folder with omxplayer ?
[16:01] <john_rambo> Any ideas ?
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[16:03] <CarlFK> I don't really know squatm but did you try "omxplayer *"
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[16:22] <john_rambo> CarlFK, Sorry for the late reply ... Yes I tried omxplayer * ....It stopped after playing the first song
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[16:22] <gordonDrogon> for i in *; do omxplayer $i ; done
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[16:23] <john_rambo> gordonDrogon, Didnt understand that ... PLease elaborate
[16:24] <gordonDrogon> it's a one-line bash script. just type it in after the $ prompt. It will play all files one after the other.
[16:24] <gordonDrogon> to see what it does, replace 'omxplayer' with 'echo/
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[16:24] <gordonDrogon> for i in *; do echo $i ; done
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[16:25] <gordonDrogon> if you have a mix of files and just want to play the mp3 ones (for example), then:
[16:25] <john_rambo> gordonDrogon, I just did >> for i in *; do echo $i ; done
[16:25] <gordonDrogon> for i in *.mp3; do echo $i ; done
[16:25] <john_rambo> Nothing happened
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[16:25] <john_rambo> gordonDrogon, ^^
[16:25] <gordonDrogon> directoyr must be empty then.
[16:26] <john_rambo> gordonDrogon, No
[16:26] <john_rambo> gordonDrogon, Files are there
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[16:27] <gordonDrogon> well I've no idea. it works for me (tm)
[16:27] <pksato> find ./ -name "*.mp3" -exec omxplayer {} \;
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[16:27] <gordonDrogon> that ought to do the same, but is harder to type :)
[16:28] <gordonDrogon> for i in `ls`; do echo $i ; done
[16:28] <john_rambo> pksato, It has started playing the first song ...Lets see if itplays the next
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[16:30] <pksato> file name with spaces?
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[16:30] <gordonDrogon> good old unix. ask N programmers, get N+1 replys :)
[16:30] <john_rambo> pksato, Yes
[16:30] <john_rambo> Its no longer playing ...May be crashed
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[16:31] <pksato> shell dont like file name with spaces. :)
[16:32] <john_rambo> Its playing again ...Lets see what happens
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[16:44] <armo92_> has anybody managed to make rplay work with an iphone x?
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[17:20] <usvi> Hello, I have a problem on boot of raspberry pi 2 b. If I have a jumber connection from GND to BCMGPIO 2, the unit is unable to reboot
[17:20] <usvi> can I fix it somehow? it is important that the unit is always rebootable
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[17:21] <usvi> I'm building a relay test system and in case there is active relay connecting gnd to gpio and the raspberry is rebooted, it does not get back to operation anymore before I remove the connection
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[17:39] <Nauti> To whomever I was discussing the issue of both my pi:s crashing after 2-3 days. I had the screen connected to it and ran dmesg -w and tail -f /var/log/syslog. They both disappeared when it crashed though, but I got this: https://i.imgur.com/tVId4ed.jpg
[17:40] <Nauti> Så it seems I know what it is now, but what could be causing this? This I know nothing of
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[17:42] <wuzamarine> how do you break to boot of a Pi3? I am stuck in perpetual reboot
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[17:55] <usvi> oh, I managed to get into some kind of test mode with those pins
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[18:18] <gordonDrogon> usvi, that jumper is probably on one of the I2C pins and yes, keeping is grounded will stop the Pi booting.
[18:20] <usvi> gordonDrogon: it was Noobs/Rasbian recovery mode or something, I mounted the recovery partition and added disablesafemode to recovery.cmdline and it started to boot again normally
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[18:21] <gordonDrogon> it's a way to reboot a Pi after you halt it. (grounding an I2C pin)
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[18:22] <usvi> well alright, I'm glad it works now
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[19:01] <shbrngdo> strange, dual-purposing an i2c pin like that
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[19:39] <wonderer> hi guys
[19:39] <wonderer> how easy is it to setup a smb share to a nas on my raspberry pi
[19:40] <wonderer> so i can point too /mount-point to a smb-share on my nas or even nfs
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[19:40] <IT_Sean> Depends. Ever set up a NAS before?
[19:41] <Encrypt> wonderer, I guess you have windows computers?
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[19:42] <Choscura> Is it just me, or does calling it 'galculator' make it sound like it's being burped
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[19:43] <Choscura> (next time you open up the galculator on raspbian you're going to omgwtfbbq)
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[19:45] <wonderer> i have windows yes
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[19:46] <shbrngdo> smb shares can't be mounted without 'smbfs' or similar
[19:46] <wonderer> but my nas is a synology and wont to setup a share over the network which my rpi will use all thetime
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[19:46] <wonderer> ie save logs too
[19:46] <wonderer> or server a webpage file from
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[19:50] <shbrngdo> wonderer - do you have mount.smbfs on your system ?
[19:50] <shbrngdo> I forget what package you need to install it
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[19:54] <shbrngdo> hmmm looks like the name was changed to 'cifs' for some reason. mount -t cifs etc.
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[19:59] <svuorela> so. raspbian/buster and media center. I tried rebuilding vlc and ffmpeg with enable mmal, but I still get unsmooth frames, what am I missing ?
[20:00] <shbrngdo> what is the output device you're using - opengl, sdl, xvideo, ?
[20:01] <shbrngdo> you could try manually selecting it [not relying on 'auto'] and maybe set parameters yourself (like framebuffer) to see how to make it go away
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[20:02] <shbrngdo> also vlc could exhibit performance problems when the SD card is too slow.
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[20:03] <shbrngdo> otherwise, I'm not usually using the built-in video with RPi [I do nearly everything via ssh or serial console]
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[20:05] <svuorela> I've tried using as much auto as possible
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[20:06] <shbrngdo> I suggest SDL first [if it's installed]
[20:06] <svuorela> and I'm in X.
[20:06] <shbrngdo> right, normally that implies xvideo extensions
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[20:07] <shbrngdo> SDL usually gives you the best performance, from past experience on different platforms
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[20:08] <shbrngdo> you can tell it to sync with the video as well, pretty sure, which (I think) switches frame buffers only at the video sync point.
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[20:11] <shbrngdo> looks like the default on my desktop is GLX [also looks like I didn't build vlc with SDL support]
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[20:12] <shbrngdo> that's what happens when you use the 'package defaults' rather than build it yourself, heh
[20:12] <shbrngdo> I don't know if the RPi video has GLX support though. if it does, that should be the best
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[20:30] <Zborg> Are the 3b+ and regular 3b the same size?
[20:30] <Zborg> Specifically, will a 3b+ work with a 3b case or does it need a 3b+ specific case?
[20:30] <gordonDrogon> most cases work with it.
[20:31] <gordonDrogon> however it has an extra 4-pin connector next to the gpio connector which gets in the way of some cases that are a snug fit.
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[20:32] <gordonDrogon> if you're never going to use PoE then you can snip them off if it doesn't fit the case you have :)
[20:33] <Zborg> I have neither at the moment
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[20:34] <gordonDrogon> shbrngdo, what version of SDL is 'standard' in fBSD?
[20:35] <shbrngdo> not sure... it's in ports. lemme see if I installed it.
[20:35] <Tenkawa> gordonDrogon: oooh... you might have given me the solution to my case problem... thank you
[20:36] <gordonDrogon> yea, wire cutters can solve a lot of problems ;-)
[20:37] <Tenkawa> indeed
[20:37] <Tenkawa> i thought about it
[20:37] <shbrngdo> looks like SDL 2.0.5 is installed here (based on SDL_version.h macros)
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[20:37] <Tenkawa> just not seriously enough
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[20:39] <gordonDrogon> shbrngdo, ok. my thing currently needs 1.3. one day I'll look at upgrading.
[20:40] <shbrngdo> it looks like there's an 'sdl' port as well as an 'sdl2' port. the 'sdl' port appears to be 1.5 something
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[20:41] <shbrngdo> wait - make that 1.2.15
[20:42] <shbrngdo> that's from last year, though. it might be 1.3 now
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[20:44] <gordonDrogon> hang on - I mis-read that. didn't realise there was a 1.5, so brain just said "2.x".
[20:44] <gordonDrogon> oh well - does fBSD need a BASIC? :-)
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[20:45] <gordonDrogon> or I should say; another basic :)
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[20:55] <shbrngdo> there's an SDL2 port and an SDL port - two different versions [this is not uncommon for backward compatibility, some still need the older one]
[20:55] <shbrngdo> SDL2 is 2.0.something, SDL is 1.2.15
[20:55] <shbrngdo> at least on MY system, which has more-than-a-year-old ports on it
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[21:03] <kzisme> Anyone here run ADS-B on their pi?
[21:04] <Nauti> When I'm trying to read up on what the BCM2835 is, it seems to be handling a lot of different things. I still have no idea of what could actually be causing the issue. Here's the image of the crash screen for people who missed it earlier: https://i.imgur.com/nh9W33T.jpg
[21:05] <leftyfb> kzisme: are you taking a survey?
[21:05] <kzisme> leftyfb: No...? Just looking to buy stuff and see if anyone has experience
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[21:05] <kzisme> https://flightaware.com/adsb/piaware/build
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[21:15] <wonderer> shbrngdo thx for your ealier pointers on smbs and cifs
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[21:20] <shbrngdo> no problem - I'd forgotten about the name change, too. so it's cifs now
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[21:54] <superprower> Hello! I just got my first RPi, model Zero W. And immediately screwed up. Does anybody know how this black thing that holds camera cable in place is called? Because I thought it was supposed to turn upwards, like most connectors on the laptop motherboards, and broke it :D So I'm looking for replacement, because I have camera and I want to play with it, but now it jus't can't stay connected.
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[21:54] <superprower> Thanks!
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[22:08] <superprower> I know people use pieces of paper or something like that to replace it as it is just pushes cable against the pins, but I want aesthetic solution, like just buying replacement latch or whatever it is.
[22:09] <IT_Sean> I'm not sure you will be able to get just the latch, tbh.
[22:09] <IT_Sean> If you can find the connector, you may be able to transplant the new latch.
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[22:10] <superprower> I'm not sure either, but hope lives. Maybe there is a 3d blueprint so I can print this part?
[22:10] <IT_Sean> It probably won't be cost effective to buy just one, though
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[22:27] <gordonDrogon> ah, he's gone. maybe it's one of those things where a video might help.
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[22:58] <wonderer> am getting "cifs filesystem not supported by the system"
[22:59] <wonderer> when trying to mount a share from my nas onto my rpi
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[23:01] <d0rm0us3> samba loaded?
[23:01] <wonderer> i think i know
[23:01] <wonderer> i have nospaces on my volume
[23:01] <wonderer> let me try
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[23:01] <wonderer> and d0rm0us3 i think i do, i used this:
[23:01] <wonderer> apt-get install samba-common smbclient samba-common-bin smbclient cifs-utils
[23:03] <wonderer> ok
[23:03] <wonderer> still getting the error "mount error: cifs filesystem not supported by the system"
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[23:04] <tristero> sudo modprobe cifs ?
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[23:05] <wonderer> root@rpi1:/# modprobe cifs
[23:05] <wonderer> modprobe: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod.c:586 kmod_search_moddep() could not open moddep file '/lib/modules/4.9.41-v7+/modules.dep.bin'
[23:05] <wonderer> modprobe: FATAL: Module cifs not found in directory /lib/modules/4.9.41-v7+
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[23:06] <wonderer> will reboot the pi3
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[23:26] <tristero> kernel in stretch is 4.14, so you may need to update too
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