#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2018-04-23

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[3:26] <Geo> Hi, does anyone have a link or docs talking about the max environmental range a pi can operate in? Not the chip temp, but the room temp?
[3:27] <Geo> I guess 'ambient temperature' is the word I'm looking for
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[3:30] <HrdwrBoB> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=26121
[3:30] <HrdwrBoB> looks like the chip is the limiting factor
[3:31] <HrdwrBoB> https://www.raspberrypi.org/help/faqs/#performanceOperatingTemperature
[3:33] <Geo> Yeah, I read that- I can't tell if thats the chip temperature, or the room temp
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[3:33] <Geo> I guess those are related though
[3:34] <Geo> I want to stick this in my attic with an antenna, but a little worried about letting it run up there
[3:35] <Geo> maybe a little usb fan just to blow over it, but temps can get up to 150/160F or so
[3:36] <stiv> the two concerns are the chip getting too hot and the chip getting cold enough that moisture condenses
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[4:08] <iKarith> Is there really any advantage to using Oracle's JDK on Raspbian over openjdk, or is it mostly installed because partnership?
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[4:30] <plugwash> iKarith, not sure what the current comparision is like openjdk used to be terrible on armv6 but it has improved significantly. Not sure if it's caught up or not though.
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[5:45] <Styil> hello my dudes, I was wondering how I can get my Pi to automount a usb drive at runtime
[5:45] <Styil> cant seem to find a solution for what seems to be a damn simple problem
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[5:55] <tvm> Styil: just add entry to /etc/fstab
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[6:01] <Styil> tvm: doesnt mount on runtime IIRC
[6:01] <Styil> only on boot
[6:02] <Styil> currently trying to use udev rules to mount it, issue is that the drive needs to be in exfat and apparently some of the necessary commands dont detect it
[6:02] <tvm> you are right
[6:02] <tvm> udev rules should work then
[6:03] <tvm> otherwise there were someone daemons that were built in order to do that thing and some desktop envs even have their own
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[6:04] <Styil> currently trying out this, but from my understanding the issue is stemming from blkid not detecting exfat drives
[6:04] <Styil> https://www.axllent.org/docs/view/auto-mounting-usb-storage/
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[6:06] <velus> hello all, i have a rpi3 with a 7inch touchscreen display but the display is showing stripes? is the display at fault or the pi?
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[6:08] <Styil> nevermind, that udev rule thing doesnt even work with a vfat drive
[6:09] <tvm> Styil: so, try the apps mentioned there
[6:09] <tvm> Styil: but frankly, some silly cron job would be also enough
[6:09] <Styil> apps mentioned where?
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[6:09] <tvm> in that SO link
[6:10] <Styil> I posted no SO link?
[6:11] <tvm> oh, here: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/134797/how-to-automatically-mount-an-usb-device-on-plugin-time-on-an-already-running-sy?utm_medium=organic&utm_source=google_rich_qa&utm_campaign=google_rich_qa
[6:11] <Styil> the link I posted mentions no apps
[6:11] <Styil> ah
[6:11] <Styil> already tried USB mount, didnt work for some reason
[6:12] <tvm> yeah, because it's 2018, one doesn't simply mounts a USB drive
[6:14] <tvm> well, the udev rules should definitely work
[6:14] <tvm> you only have to adapt them
[6:14] <Styil> hmm, how so?
[6:15] <tvm> dunno, you'll have to show some udev log error first
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[6:17] <Styil> where is said log located?
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[6:18] <tvm> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingUdev
[6:18] <tvm> enjoy
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[7:54] <andrei-n> Does something like an electronic paper typewriter exist? It would be really great...
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[7:59] <red9> andrei-n, How would that work?
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[8:07] <red9> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV_Typewriter ? ;-)
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[8:16] <gordonDrogon> er, boot Pi, Open nano, go full screen, trpe.
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[8:40] <Styil> and now I have managed to put my pi into a boot loop using udev
[8:40] <Styil> ugh
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[11:54] <john_rambo> screen goes dark after some minutes of inactivity ...How to disable this ?
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[12:06] <dogbert2> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=18200 (how to disable screen blanking)
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[13:43] <veverak> let's say
[13:43] <veverak> that you had a power source that used to provide 5V
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[13:43] <veverak> and you connected it to Rpi
[13:43] <JimBuntu> and... ?
[13:44] <veverak> the thing does not boot up and 'laboratory power source' powering the power source I used (it's UBEC, lab. power source provided battery voltage)
[13:44] <veverak> is going crazy over something
[13:44] <veverak> so I disconnected and realize that rpi does not boot and is heating up around the micro USB
[13:44] <veverak> and I realized that the UBEC I used is now providing fucking 16V
[13:44] <veverak> (measured)
[13:44] <veverak> is there a chance to save the rpi?
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[13:48] <BCMM> veverak: well, if you're lucky, the polyfuse might have tripped (it's designed for overcurrent situations, not overvoltage, but you might have given enough current to trip it)
[13:49] <leftyfb> veverak: have you tried booting the pi on a proper 5v power supply since?
[13:49] <BCMM> veverak: if that has happened, it could potentially take a long time for the polyfuse to reset
[13:49] <veverak> leftyfb: yep, the PCB around micro usb is heating up
[13:49] <veverak> sometimes the green led blinks
[13:49] <veverak> BCMM: I see
[13:50] <veverak> I don't smell anything really (but my sense of smell is bad)
[13:50] <veverak> and visually do not see any problems
[13:50] <veverak> BCMM: anyway to check the fuse?
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[13:51] <gordonDrogon> you could use a multi-meter on ohms and check the resistance with the PSU removed.
[13:52] <BCMM> veverak: yeah, you should be able to just test it with a multimeter. found this on elinux: https://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting#Troubleshooting_power_problems
[13:53] <gordonDrogon> however there really isn't any sort of over voltage regulation on the Pi.
[13:53] <BCMM> i don't know why they're using a PSU to provide voltage in those instructions, as gordonDrogon's suggestion of just using ohmmeter mode seems more common-sense to me
[13:53] <gordonDrogon> a lot of the stuff on the elinux site is quite old now and not been updated to reflect more recent thinking.
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[13:54] <BCMM> gordonDrogon: that is true... do you think there's any reasonable hope that the overvoltage drove enough overcurrent to trip some kind of protection *before* doing serious damage?
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[13:55] <gordonDrogon> no idea really.
[13:55] <gordonDrogon> however I have my doubts - especially if the red power LED doesn't come on (does it, veverak ?)
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[13:55] <veverak> nope
[13:55] <veverak> 0.1-0.2 Ohm?
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[13:56] <gordonDrogon> and if the pcb is still getting hot with a 5v psu, then something else has gone phut ...
[13:56] <veverak> (I don't have mine multi-meter and don't know if I operate this one correctly)
[13:56] <gordonDrogon> veverak, that's ok - the polyfuse has reset and saved itself - but not a lot else...
[13:56] <veverak> yep
[13:56] <veverak> red is still not ON
[13:56] <veverak> :/
[13:57] <gordonDrogon> you may want to try powering it from the GPIO port - at thing point you probably can't make it worse.
[13:57] <veverak> it was powered from GPIO with wrong regulator
[13:57] <gordonDrogon> oh right - thought you'd powered it from the usb.
[13:57] <veverak> nope, it's just heating there
[13:57] <gordonDrogon> if you power it from usb then it bypasses the on-board polyfuse and anything else.
[13:58] <veverak> 5V/GND pin on the GPIO
[13:58] <gordonDrogon> sorry - if you power from the gpio (not usb)
[13:58] <veverak> hmmm, 'C100' is heating up, or around it
[13:58] <veverak> damn it
[13:58] <gordonDrogon> is this a Piv3 ?
[13:58] <veverak> v3
[13:58] <veverak> sorry, v2
[13:58] <veverak> Pi2 v1.1 to be precise
[13:59] <gordonDrogon> ok. not really that important - 16v directly to the 5v lines via the gpio port and it's toast.
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[14:00] <gordonDrogon> trophy cabinet time...
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[14:02] <veverak> ...
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[14:17] <Project86__> Why is it that when you set tft screen up, it only wants to use tft? Even when hdmi is plugged in. Shouldn't it autoswitch? And if it can, how do i set it up to do so?
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[14:25] <BCMM> yeah, if you put power on over gpio, you're "on your own", so to speak - now it's not the Pi's job to protect itself any more
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[14:25] <BCMM> ^power in
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[14:26] <Project86__> So it can only be done with gpio manipulation?
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[14:27] <Project86__> That's just silly
[14:28] <Project86__> So if I wanted to just make it hdmi only again, what config settings do I change?
[14:30] <ShorTie> undo all your tft stuff, or just change out sdcard
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[14:34] <cirdan> hmm here's a strange issue. if I have my monitor plugged in, the rpi freezes on boot when the 4 raspberries show up
[14:34] <cirdan> if I set hdmi safe mode, it's fine
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[14:40] <Project86__> ShorTie: but what if I still want the tft set up to use (if needed), and just want to change default display? What setting file do i change?
[14:41] <Project86__> (First pi, sorry. I know, I'm way behind lol)
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[14:47] <ShorTie> setting file == sdcard, imho
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[14:49] <cirdan> this is a older dell 24" with lots of inputs, can do dvi or hdmi modes
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[14:52] <cirdan> oh the f'd up thing is it works if I'm on a different input than it's plugged into.
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[16:13] <sander^home> How come I get Failed to fetch http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/pool/main/c/chkrootkit/chkrootkit_0.50-3_armhf.deb 404 Not Found ?
[16:14] <shiftplusone> because you didn't run 'sudo apt update' first
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[16:15] <sander^home> shiftplusone: thanks:-)
[16:15] <shiftplusone> np
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[16:29] <sander^home> How come I get: fatal error: Python.h: No such file or directory
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[16:30] <waveform> sander^home, are you trying to compile something? If so you need either python-dev or python3-dev installed depending on the thing you're trying to compile
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[16:32] <sander^home> python3-dev is already the newest version.
[16:32] <sander^home> waveform:
[16:33] <waveform> and the thing you're compiling is for python 3, not python 2?
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[16:34] <sander^home> oh, seems it was 2. I got it now:)
[16:34] <sander^home> thanks again:)
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[16:50] <sander^home> in python i'm doing import bluetooth, then i'm getting: ImportError: No module named bluetooth
[16:50] <sander^home> waveform: shiftplusone
[16:51] <sander^home> I did install both bluetooth and gnome-bluetooth package.. didnt work
[16:52] <waveform> sander^home, generally if you're looking for a python2 library you want a package prefixed with "python-"; other things won't be relevant
[16:53] <waveform> I'm not sure which package would contain "bluetooth" module - you might want python-bluez perhaps, but I'm not surer
[16:53] <waveform> *sure
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[17:02] <sander^home> waveform: thanks:) seems I need ussp from python too..
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[17:06] <sander^home> getting obex_socket.c:200: undefined reference to `hci_remote_name'
[17:06] <sander^home> when trying to compile ussp
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[17:12] <sander^home> apt-get update #after adding src in sources.list, apt-get source ussp-push; cd ussp-push-0.11; ./configure; make
[17:13] <sander^home> I think ussp wasnt compiled with python2 support originally, thats why I try to recompile it.
[17:13] <methuzla> sander^home, how did you install the python bluetooth module?
[17:14] <sander^home> methuzla: apt-get install python-bluez
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[17:17] <sander^home> the source was located here long time ago: http://org.csail.mit.edu/pybluez/
[17:17] <methuzla> that works for me. latest raspbian lite.
[17:17] <methuzla> no need to compile or install anything else
[17:18] <sander^home> I'm unable to use pythonussp
[17:18] <sander^home> import pythonussp ImportError: No module named pythonussp
[17:18] <methuzla> ImportError: No module named bluetooth <-- that simply means python can't find the module, for some reason
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[17:19] <sander^home> methuzla: yes. And when installing python-bluez the error message got longer down to ussp
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[17:19] <idwrqd> Hi everyone, could someone help me with an problem I have?
[17:20] <methuzla> what is pythonussp?
[17:20] <methuzla> idwrqd, just ask. don't ask to ask.
[17:21] <zleap> idwrqd: yeah just ask :)
[17:21] <idwrqd> I have a raspberrypi sending output signals to other raspberries and want to monitor "keypress" on the keyborad
[17:21] <sander^home> methuzla: its an module used for sending files to bluetooth enabled mobile phones
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[17:21] <zleap> idwrqd: so you need / would like a keylogger
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[17:21] <idwrqd> I tried threads, subprocess, ... and none of themworked
[17:22] <idwrqd> I need both "loops" to run in parallel
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[17:23] <idwrqd> can someone help me solving this?
[17:24] <zleap> idwrqd: would a hardware keylogger help
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[17:25] <idwrqd> I don't think so @zleap
[17:26] <zleap> ok
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[17:27] <idwrqd> if I activate both functions (GPIO and the keyboard monitiring), they run separately by the position on the code
[17:27] <idwrqd> *their position on the code
[17:28] <idwrqd> the seccond function will wait for the first to finish the loop
[17:28] <idwrqd> this is the main issue. The solution is to somehow make them run in parallel
[17:29] <methuzla> sounds more like a general question about multi-tasking
[17:29] <idwrqd> yup
[17:29] <gordonDrogon> or pthreads
[17:29] <idwrqd> and by the way, it being coded in python
[17:29] <gordonDrogon> I'm sure python can do threads.
[17:30] <methuzla> yah. it can.
[17:30] <methuzla> idwrqd, but there's no one answer to how to use them to do what you're trying to do
[17:30] <idwrqd> what's the best way to me to share the code with someone to see what may be missing or wrong on it?
[17:31] <methuzla> a pastebin of somekind
[17:31] <zleap> gordonDrogon: it can
[17:31] <methuzla> i think there's a python dedicated one, but doesn't matter
[17:31] <zleap> idwrqd: if you have github you can use git
[17:31] <zleap> gist (sorry)
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[17:32] <methuzla> https://paste.pound-python.org/
[17:33] <DammitJim> do I need to buy some special sensor to do motion activated recording with a spi cam?
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[17:34] <methuzla> DammitJim, motion in image? or physical motion of sensor? (like accel)
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[17:34] <idwrqd> https://paste.pound-python.org/show/o4d1eRfh70zM0msOXhRW/
[17:34] <idwrqd> thnaks! @methuzla
[17:34] <DammitJim> say someone shows up in the frame
[17:35] <idwrqd> the issue is when I call "cascadeTrigger()" and "listeningToKeyboard()"
[17:36] <idwrqd> around line 250
[17:37] <idwrqd> (*this is a testing code, so you may see several tries to achieve this)
[17:37] <methuzla> DammitJim, in general, no, it's just image processing, so it just boils down to math done on the sensor output (images)
[17:39] <methuzla> idwrqd, what's your ultimate goal? start and stop songs via keyboard?
[17:39] <DammitJim> any good tutorials on this?
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[17:40] <BCMM> DammitJim: motion activated recording would usually happen by just analysing the video from the camera - camera runs all the time, but video is only saved when something interesting happens
[17:40] <BCMM> DammitJim: there's a package called motion that basically just does this
[17:40] <idwrqd> This particular part will send inputs to arduinos to create a "cascade" of lights when the chord needs to be played
[17:41] <DammitJim> oh, I'm using motion right now
[17:41] <DammitJim> but didn't know that was a "feature"
[17:41] <idwrqd> like guitar hero
[17:41] <BCMM> DammitJim: ... what were you using it for?
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[17:41] <DammitJim> just streaming video from the camera
[17:41] <DammitJim> it was actually very simple to set up
[17:41] <idwrqd> and the keyboard is to play the note
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[17:51] <idwrqd> anyone?!
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[17:56] <methuzla> idwrqd, have you ever done any programming with threads?
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[17:57] <idwrqd> nop, this is the first time :S
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[17:58] <methuzla> start simpler
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[18:01] <idwrqd> well, this was being made by another person and I jump in just today
[18:01] <idwrqd> I was able to do all we need but this "thread" part
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[18:02] <idwrqd> what I need now is to finish this project for "yesterday", :D
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[18:03] <idwrqd> do you have any possible solution here?
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[18:28] <Johnjay> DammitJim: there are no good tutorials. for anything.
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[18:42] <hotpot33> if any of you remember my conversation last week
[18:42] <hotpot33> I got the 5v 3A power supply
[18:43] <hotpot33> but when I Plug it in, the red light doesn't light up
[18:43] <hotpot33> and the green light keeps blinking
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[18:44] <hotpot33> what am I supposed to do?
[18:45] <hotpot33> After reading it looks like it's some SD card problem but my SD card was working fine the last time\
[18:45] <hotpot33> and I have a heatsink on my RPi's CPU, it is getting extremely hot, and when I unplug the microUSB cable, it's also hot
[18:45] <hotpot33> (its microusb point)
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[18:49] <Taurr> hi :-)
[18:49] <hotpot33> hai
[18:49] <BCMM> hotpot33: just to check, the actual *cable* isn't getting hot, right?
[18:49] <hotpot33> yes, the contacts are getting hot
[18:50] <hotpot33> the actual cable isn't getting hot
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[18:51] <Taurr> quick question; I've set a root passwd on my rpi, enabled full ssh access and is able to login as root over ssh. Problem is, I normally use a cert. for logging into my other servers over SSH, but after a ssh-copy-id root@<rpi>, it still wants a password - any clues to why???
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[18:52] <hotpot33> Taurr: it thinks your cert is invalid
[18:54] <Taurr> hotpot33: question is why. it's the same one I use on my server - does the rpi have a restriction on key length? (its a 4096 bit key)
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[18:58] <BurtyB> Taurr, is it a DSA key?
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[19:00] <Taurr> nope, it was a rsa key - but I just generated a new one using 1Kbit... success
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[19:01] <Taurr> which is annoying, cause I wanted to use the same 4Kbit key for root access - so it would be easier to use ansible
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[19:01] <hotpot33> maybe check your SSHd log
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[19:06] <Taurr> hmm, where does sshd write its log by default?
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[19:06] <Taurr> nothing in the syslog
[19:07] <hotpot33> Taurr: explore /var/log/
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[19:12] <Taurr> heh, gave up, generated new key and used Ansible to deploy the new key to my existing infrastructure :-/
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[19:22] <DammitJim> Johnjay, LOL
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[20:02] <Owner> what is the best filesystem to use...ext4 corrupted its journal in record time
[20:03] <cirdan> Owner: zfs
[20:04] <cirdan> bonus is lz4 compression :)
[20:04] <cirdan> and it'll tell you as soon as you get media errors
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[20:05] <Owner> zfs is going to require too much work
[20:05] <cirdan> its not bad
[20:05] <ShorTie> what about btrfs ??
[20:05] <cirdan> less work to just cat /dev/null > /dev/sda
[20:05] <Owner> can any survive bad sd cards?
[20:05] <Owner> because it broke so fast
[20:06] <cirdan> can yuo survive a rotten floor?
[20:06] <cirdan> :)
[20:06] <ShorTie> bad power normally kills the sdcard
[20:06] <Owner> hmm
[20:06] <cirdan> get a good sd card. sandisk has some great a1 rated cards with decent iops and 10 year warranty
[20:06] <Owner> hmm, yeah or it was power...
[20:06] <cirdan> wishing I gott the 64gb one now instead of the 32 gb
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[20:06] <ShorTie> get a 5.25v power supply
[20:06] <Owner> good point
[20:07] <Owner> brownouts and such
[20:07] <cirdan> can the pi read it's own voltage?
[20:07] <ShorTie> nop
[20:08] <ShorTie> they do have the lightening bolt, but to read the voltage you need a adc really
[20:09] <ShorTie> looking in messages for usb disconnects is an other way to check
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[20:13] <Apocx_> darkflow/darknet rocks :O
[20:13] <Owner> @_@
[20:13] <Apocx_> finally have actual good detection of people/cars/etc for my security cams
[20:14] <Owner> people, cars....
[20:14] <Owner> dogs?
[20:14] <Apocx_> it can detect dogs yes
[20:14] <JimBuntu> wolves versus dogs?
[20:14] <Apocx_> and potted plants.. and bottles... and chairs... and sofas
[20:14] <Owner> bears?
[20:14] <Apocx_> it's kind of silly how much they added
[20:14] <Owner> oh wow
[20:14] <IT_Sean> Leprechauns?
[20:15] <Apocx_> If you can catch one on video I'm sure you can train it to detect them! :D
[20:15] <Owner> if its named darkflow/darknet
[20:15] <JimBuntu> IT_Sean, nah, I don't think they released that one, too busy finding all that gold themselves
[20:15] <Owner> and it identifies bottles
[20:15] <Owner> do not want. lol
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[20:15] <Owner> where are they uploading all that
[20:16] <Apocx_> https://pjreddie.com/media/image/Screen_Shot_2018-03-24_at_10.48.42_PM.png
[20:16] <Owner> can it detect independent thought though?
[20:16] <Owner> or is that what alexa is for
[20:16] <Apocx_> alexa knows all
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[20:17] <Apocx_> she sees you when you're sleeping, she knows when you're awake
[20:17] <IT_Sean> Does she know if you've been bad or good?
[20:18] <Owner> she defines bad or good
[20:18] <Owner> you thought criminal
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[20:18] <IT_Sean> ...
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[20:28] <cirdan> Owner: https://github.com/zfsonlinux/pkg-zfs/wiki/HOWTO-install-Raspbian-to-a-Native-ZFS-Root-Filesystem,-or,-How-I-Learned-to-Love-Data-Integrity not hard
[20:29] <Owner> im not using raspbian
[20:29] <willc> Is there a way to be able to ssh into a pi, and then run a command that opens on the display the pi is connected to?
[20:29] <willc> For instance when I run sudo idle3
[20:30] <willc> I get a "no $DISPLAY defined" error.
[20:30] <cirdan> Owner: it's even easier if you're running a distro with initrd
[20:30] <methuzla> ssh -X
[20:30] <Owner> DISPLAY=:0 xeyes
[20:30] <cirdan> willc: see how emulationstation does it
[20:30] <zleap> todays packt book is pen testing with raspberry pi
[20:31] <Owner> cirdan: id kill 3 flashdrives just compiling the kernel
[20:31] <Owner> sd cards
[20:31] <Owner> w/e
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[20:31] <willc> I am attempting to open the visual element on the display that is plugged into the pi via hdmi, while remotely sending the app command
[20:31] <willc> is that still a ssh -x mater?
[20:31] <willc> matter*
[20:31] <cirdan> really? im using a sd card with mine Owner...
[20:31] <zleap> that does x forwardingm, it still works, i had it working with a program i wrote to control minecraft pi from pythontk
[20:31] <cirdan> might wanna get one with a warranty :)
[20:34] <Owner> willc: you have to set the display variable
[20:34] <willc> Owner, is there a way to list the available displays?
[20:34] <willc> The last time I went down this path I ended up messing up all the display settings lol
[20:34] <Owner> i think it shows it in ps
[20:35] <Owner> its going to be :0 anyway
[20:35] <Owner> DISPLAY=:0 xeyes
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[20:37] <pksato> if have only one GPU and one screen, display always is :0.0
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[20:38] <Owner> unless you want to use a different one
[20:38] <pksato> also, need to export xauth credentials. ex.: export DISPLAY=:0 XAUTHORITY=/home/pi/.Xauthority
[20:39] <pksato> and, you not have control over ssh to this application.
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[20:51] <zleap> right six labels printed for thursday (ubuntu 18.04 lts)
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[20:57] <willc> thank you both
[20:57] <willc> working on installing openni atm
[20:57] <willc> I have freenect installed, but python3 isn't finding it.
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[21:02] <willc> Thanks to everyone that contributes to this project
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[23:21] <davr0s> question for people who have messed with r-pi cameras: What would be the simplest way to synchronize starting video recording on 2 pi-zeros
[23:21] <davr0s> (to make a stereo camera)
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[23:26] <Choscura> davr0s, there's stereo camera boards
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[23:27] <davr0s> i did hear the compute-module can do stereo, but i thought the regular pi's cant, am i wrong?
[23:28] <Choscura> if you wanted to do something manual, I'd probably do something like get a stretch of picatinny rail on amazon and some scope rings, and mount cameras with that to keep them in a zeroed position
[23:28] <davr0s> (the compute module must be paired with a seperate PCB right, but i guess it's still a pi
[23:28] <Choscura> and, the compute module I'm not sure/can't comment on
[23:28] <Choscura> but there's a vanilla pi camera cable splitter board that has 2 cameras on it
[23:28] <davr0s> hah i have a picitanny rail from airsoft
[23:28] <Choscura> get some scope rings to mount the cameras you want and set
[23:28] <Choscura> it's not rocket science and you don't need to be tacticoolio
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[23:29] <davr0s> but the splitter board is multiplexing , right? but you're claiming that will be fast enough for stills?
[23:29] <Choscura> i haven't personally used it, but it wouldn't be a very good board that couldn't do stills at the same time
[23:30] <Choscura> it may have to multiplex them back as input to the pi
[23:30] <Choscura> but that's not the same as cameras firing at different times
[23:30] <davr0s> oh ok this board is more elaborate than the one i already knwo about
[23:30] <Choscura> maybe, again, I'm talking something I've seen and looked at doing, but if you've tried that and it's not worked, we need to move on to next camera option
[23:31] <Choscura> got a lunk?
[23:31] <Choscura> lunx plux
[23:31] <davr0s> (i knew about a dumb multiplexer, basically.. it toggled multiple camear)
[23:31] <davr0s> oh there's USB gadget mode aswell right
[23:32] <davr0s> maybe i can use one pi-zero as a usb gadget. or 2 pi-zeros as USB gadgets attached to one master pi
[23:32] <Choscura> interesting, i think I found your compute module thing
[23:33] <davr0s> yeah i heard the compute-module can do it for real
[23:33] <Choscura> and, have you seen poison taps? that kind of configuration could do what you want
[23:33] <Choscura> https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/real-time-depth-perception-with-the-compute-module/
[23:33] <davr0s> yeah thats the whole thing
[23:34] <Choscura> https://samy.pl/poisontap/ architecturally sets you up to do your 'hub of pi0's thing
[23:35] <davr0s> i dont actually need realtime depth perception - i can process later, but thats also very interesting
[23:35] <davr0s> oh ok
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[23:36] <davr0s> i should just organize getting a f***ing wire, and actually use the gpio
[23:37] <davr0s> i have the pi's sat around and actually using the GPIO would leverage them better.
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