#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2018-04-27

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[0:41] <LFSveteran> how to set static ip to usb0
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[2:17] <swift110> can i use the wifi signal from my android phone on my pi
[2:17] <swift110> ?
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[2:17] <swift110> say a pi zero w but it can't rely on wifi itself but via usb cord
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[2:28] <Markdown1_> swift110 you mean USB Tethering?
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[3:07] <averagecdn> good evening
[3:07] <averagecdn> anyone around that can help with pivpn issues
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[3:49] <Project86__> So, would it be possible to integrate a low cost smart watch board to the pi, and have it control it? I couldn't resist getting a couple smart watches at $6 knowing how small they are, and the fact the have their own WiFi, bt, 0.96in touch display, AND gsm, all in one. So can it be done? Or should I try installing a custom rom onto the watches instead?
[3:50] <Project86__> Oh ya, and they have a Lipo battery
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[3:53] <HrdwrBoB> custom rom would be better
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[4:13] <ShapeShifter499> Project86__: mind posting what watches these are?
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[6:21] <grokkingStuff> beep boop
[6:22] <grokkingStuff> I'm trying to install raspbian stretch on a headless Pi
[6:22] <grokkingStuff> Can't enable ssh at all
[6:22] <grokkingStuff> know what the issue might be?
[6:22] <grokkingStuff> I've tried modifying the ssh_config file
[6:22] <grokkingStuff> still nothing
[6:23] <wuzamarine> what error are you recieving? grokkingStuff:
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[6:24] <ninevolt> grokkingStuff: #3? https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/remote-access/ssh/
[6:25] <grokkingStuff> wuzamarine: permission denied & port 22 closed
[6:25] <grokkingStuff> ninevolt: folloed their instructions :(
[6:26] <grokkingStuff> doing a headless install
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[6:27] <wuzamarine> grokkingStuff: is your firewall off?
[6:27] <grokkingStuff> yeah
[6:27] <grokkingStuff> am able to ssh into localhost
[6:28] <ninevolt> also can you ping it? and this link says to put the ssh file in the root of your SSD https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=191252
[6:28] <wuzamarine> restart sshd with a tail -f running on your logs
[6:28] <grokkingStuff> did that earlier
[6:28] <grokkingStuff> my sshd service is running
[6:28] <grokkingStuff> i can ping the device
[6:29] <grokkingStuff> i know its ip address
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[6:32] <ninevolt> same network and ip subnet? are you able to nmap/port scan it?
[6:32] <grokkingStuff> yeah!
[6:33] <grokkingStuff> nmap says that the port 22 ssh service is closed
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[6:40] <ninevolt> on the pi does netstat -l | grep ssh return anything?
[6:40] <ninevolt> I'm at a loss. sorry :)
[6:41] <wuzamarine> ninevolt: I don't think his sshd services are starting
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[6:42] <ninevolt> even though he's able to ssh into localhost?
[6:43] <wuzamarine> ninevolt: I didn't see that
[6:43] <ninevolt> or she
[6:43] <ninevolt> ;)
[6:43] <ninevolt> also assuming they're doing it from the actual pi
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[6:43] <wuzamarine> grokkingStuff: did you try a different client?
[6:44] <wuzamarine> never mind
[6:51] <Oksana> How is it that Raspberry Pi Compute Module 3 + Compute Module 3 Lite + breakout board +power supply costs around 300AUD, while Raspberry Pi 3 B+ power supply costs around 75AUD? Each Compute Module costs around 60AUD, close to Raspberry Pi 3, reasonable. But Development kits costs 300AUD, which
[6:51] <Oksana> means that breakout board is about 160AUD?
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[8:12] <dustfinger> What do I do if after updating my raspberry pi wants me to run sudo apt autoremove to remove a bunch of packages that I believe should not be removed?
[8:12] <ali1234> nothing
[8:13] <ali1234> or set those packages to manually installed
[8:14] <ali1234> Oksana: yes, that's about what the CM breakout costs
[8:15] <ali1234> https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/products/1232013/
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[8:22] <dustfinger> ali1234: how do you set them to manually installed?
[8:22] <ali1234> just apt install them
[8:22] <dustfinger> ali1234: Okay, thanks.
[8:22] <ali1234> it will say something like "package is already installed, setting to manually installed"
[8:23] <ali1234> you don't need to do that for every package. just the ones you know you want to keep
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[8:39] <dustfinger> ali1234: The reason that I think I need them is because I did run the autoremove command and when I rebooted all I get is a squore on my screen filled with a colour gradient. It won't boot, I just see the colour gradient screen. I will try to re-image the pi again tomorrow and this time I won't run the autoremove and instead I will install the list of packages to see if that makes a difference.
[8:40] <dustfinger> a.f.k now. Need to get some sleep...
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[9:29] <mfa298> dustfinger: maybe take a look at what the list of packages is. autoremove shouldn't make the pi unbootable so it might be something else thats breaking it (Power and SD are the usual suspects for issues)
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[10:50] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[10:51] <ShapeShifter499> Does the raspberry pi 3b+ have any hardware specialized components for encryption, compression, or generating randomness?
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[10:53] <xacktm> for 35$ ?
[10:54] <ShapeShifter499> just making sure there isn't any extra bits or hardware acceleration I don't know about
[10:54] <erm3nda> ShapeShifter499, i think you can just see the specs documents
[10:55] <BCMM> xacktm: the pi has a lot of not-strictly-necessary features that basically come with the SoC
[10:55] <BCMM> i mean, the mostly unused 64-bit support didn't "cost extra" in any way, for example
[10:56] <xacktm> hmm fair
[10:56] <ali1234> ShapeShifter499: i think it does have a hardware RNG
[10:56] <ShapeShifter499> can I enable that?
[10:57] <ShapeShifter499> or is it enabled by default?
[10:57] <ShapeShifter499> might help with encryption heavy programs
[10:57] <ali1234> look for /dev/hwrng
[10:58] <ShapeShifter499> I have that
[10:58] <erm3nda> seems that the chip armv8 on the Broadcom BCM2837B0 SOC has some cryto extensions
[10:58] <ali1234> it wont make encryption faster
[10:58] <erm3nda> that means it can support hardware support but not "exclusive" chipset to do that
[10:58] <ali1234> yes those are enabled in the kernel too afaik
[10:58] <erm3nda> surely is nothing fast compared to what you expect
[10:58] <ali1234> they are nothing special though
[10:59] <ShapeShifter499> do I have to do anything extra? Or should programs that support it just find it on it's own
[10:59] <ali1234> should just work
[10:59] <ali1234> what type of encryption do you want to go faster?
[10:59] <BCMM> ShapeShifter499: ARMv8 Crypto Extensions are absent from the Pi's CPU, according to https://www.linaro.org/blog/accelerated-aes-for-the-arm64-linux-kernel/
[11:00] <ShapeShifter499> I'm asking because I thought I read something where 64bit support would enable some hardware features
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[11:00] <ShapeShifter499> But I cannot find the page I read that, so I cannot remember exactly what it was
[11:01] <erm3nda> you must see aes in the flags of cat /proc/cpuinfo
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[11:01] <BCMM> ShapeShifter499: but it looks like, with appropriate kernel modules loaded, there's a /dev/hwrng on every (?) pi so far
[11:01] <erm3nda> bcmm what is rng?
[11:02] <ShapeShifter499> fp asimd evtstrm crc32 cpuid is in /proc/cpuinfo
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[11:02] <ShapeShifter499> erm3nda: random number generator
[11:02] <erm3nda> oh, thx
[11:02] <ShapeShifter499> acronyms, acronyms everywhere!
[11:02] <ali1234> AES_ARM is enabled in the kernel
[11:02] <ali1234> maybe it doesn't work though
[11:02] <erm3nda> usually i got all acronyms. just little focused in other things :D
[11:03] <erm3nda> i can't see rng in my computer. but seeing rdrand
[11:03] <ShapeShifter499> the more I get into computing the more acronyms I get
[11:03] <ali1234> or maybe that's just optimized assembly routines
[11:03] <BCMM> ali1234: i *think* that's an optimised SIMD implementation of AES
[11:03] <ShapeShifter499> ali1234: I'm running a special 64bit kernel for my pi 3b+ how should I make sure it was compiled in?
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[11:04] <erm3nda> ShapeShifter499, looking for all kernel modules
[11:04] <erm3nda> loaded or not
[11:05] <erm3nda> unloaded might mean it was compiled supporting it but werent loaded due to missing hardware
[11:05] <ali1234> make menuconfig -> cryptographic API -> ARM accelerated cryptographic algorithms
[11:05] <ali1234> the v8 extensions are not enabled
[11:05] <ali1234> just NEON/SIMD routines
[11:06] <ShapeShifter499> I don't think it was compiled in looking at this https://github.com/sakaki-/bcmrpi3-kernel/blob/master/config
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[11:06] <ali1234> http://i.imgur.com/HMvAB2d.png
[11:06] <ShapeShifter499> CONFIG_CRYPTO_AES_ARM64
[11:06] <ShapeShifter499> not set
[11:08] <ShapeShifter499> should those be enabled?
[11:08] <ShapeShifter499> would it help any?
[11:08] <ali1234> not if the CPU doesnt support it
[11:09] <ShapeShifter499> hmm
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[11:11] <ShapeShifter499> seems like it's supported but it's not added yet
[11:11] <ShapeShifter499> https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/issues/1797
[11:12] <ShapeShifter499> the team denied it because it hasn't been thoroughly tested yet
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[11:12] <BCMM> ShapeShifter499: CONFIG_CRYPTO_AES_ARM64 is a fast AES implementation for ARM, but it's not using dedicated AES instructions
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[11:13] <ShapeShifter499> oh
[11:14] <BCMM> ShapeShifter499: check the help text in menuconfig or whatever
[11:14] <BCMM> at least, that's how i understand "optimized AES assembler routines"
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[11:16] <ShapeShifter499> hmm
[11:17] <ShapeShifter499> I just barely understand crypto at this point, I just want to make sure all the hardware stuff that's included is enabled. That I'm not missing anything that isn't switched on by default that needs to be enabled after install
[11:17] <ShapeShifter499> to speed up things
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[11:24] <odroid> i keep getting an error while running the edimax driver install script on my odroid, any ideas as to how to solve it?
[11:24] <odroid> im not even sure where the error files are
[11:24] <ShapeShifter499> thanks for the information guys
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[11:34] <BurtyB> odroid, maybe look/ask on the odroid forum or irc channel if they have one?
[11:37] <Armand> odroid: /j #odroid
[11:37] <Armand> Funny that, ehh ?
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[16:33] <stevenm> Lo, is it possible to use the official touchscreen *and* also the HDMI port on the r-pi3b?
[16:33] <stevenm> i.e. a dual screen setup
[16:34] <shiftplusone> Not with the legacy drivers. May it is or will be possible with the open source drivers from Broadcom, but I would be surprised.
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[16:38] <ChunkzZ> anyone tried ubuntu 18.04 on a pi 3 yet?
[16:39] <Habbie> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RaspberryPi#Ubuntu_18.04_LTS_.27classic.27
[16:39] <stevenm> oh yeah it's april - time to release because of a calendar
[16:39] <Habbie> for those who had trouble finding it, like me
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[16:41] <ChunkzZ> Habbie, ?
[16:41] <Habbie> ChunkzZ, your question made me wonder where to download it
[16:41] <Habbie> ChunkzZ, because it's not easy to find on the ubuntu.com download pages
[16:41] <ChunkzZ> I asked if anyone's used it yet.... not where to download it :P
[16:41] <Habbie> yes
[16:41] <Habbie> but now people can try it ;)
[16:41] <stevenm> anyone interested in using this exagear thing? x86 apps on a pi? I wasn't sure, so 3 days ago i put my email into their site (as though about to do an order) - then didn't
[16:42] <stevenm> and if you're happy being bugged with an email, one each day - for 3 days... then it seems they give you a link for 50% off lol
[16:42] <stevenm> *desperate* !
[16:44] <ChunkzZ> Habbie, yes?
[16:44] <ChunkzZ> Habbie, yes what? you've tried it?
[16:44] <Habbie> i have not
[16:45] <ChunkzZ> then what are you saying "yes" to?
[16:45] <Habbie> to the line just before the yes
[16:45] <ChunkzZ> huh?
[16:45] <Habbie> let it go :)
[16:46] <ChunkzZ> no
[16:46] <ChunkzZ> you've said yes.... yes to what? if anyone's tried it?
[16:46] <Habbie> i said yes to your clarification that you asked about usage, not where to download
[16:46] <Habbie> i confirmed that i understood that
[16:46] <Habbie> that is what the yes was
[16:46] <ChunkzZ> ok....
[16:47] <NGC3982> it feels so odd looking at a chat where all of the people use Nnnn names.
[16:47] <Habbie> NGC3982, hmm?
[16:48] <NGC3982> i just realized that irssi looked like skype all of the sudden :-p.
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[16:50] <Armand> Irssi looks horrendous.
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[16:58] <NGC3982> really? i love it. it might be because im used to it, but i cannot use anything else properly.
[16:58] <NGC3982> i had to use mirc for a day or two when i reinstalled the server, and i couldnt physically see specific lines of text. :/
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[17:05] <red9> mirc -> microsoft -> problem as expected?
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[17:20] <elektrinis> hi
[17:21] <elektrinis> building a "smart 5.1 audio amp" based on pri 3B+... bought 5.1 shield, works very well. Now looking for solution to stream audio via LAN, from PC to RPI
[17:21] <elektrinis> tired pulseaudio solution from libreELEC guide...
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[17:22] <elektrinis> somehow managed it to work with windows streamer
[17:22] <elektrinis> however audio is very choppy, laggy, etc
[17:22] <elektrinis> is there a proper solution for this, or maybe a ready to go app for windows, that just works?
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[17:24] <red9> check buffer policy
[17:25] <elektrinis> I'm bit novice, so sorry for asking, but where and how?
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[17:54] <nicomachus> I'm getting some very, very slow speeds from apt and rpi-update on my rpi3 running Ubuntu MATE 16.04. A regular speedtest shows 100Mbps up/down but apt and rpi-update are both getting closer to 50kpbs.
[17:54] <nicomachus> Any idea what could be causing the slowdowns? I thought it could be the ubuntu repo servers being slow because of the LTS release, but rpi-update is a completely separate server
[17:55] <shiftplusone> is this a 3B+?
[17:56] <nicomachus> I think just a 3
[17:56] <nicomachus> is there a 3b+?
[17:56] <Habbie> yes, few weeks ago
[17:56] <shiftplusone> there's a 3B and a 3B+.
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[17:57] <nicomachus> huh. well I've had this one for about a year and half
[17:59] <nicomachus> is there a way to see the model from CLI?
[17:59] <IT_Sean> it sounds like you've got a 3B
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[17:59] <nicomachus> Oh, yep
[17:59] <nicomachus> product: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B Rev 1.2
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[18:00] <Habbie> nicomachus, how did you get that?
[18:00] <nicomachus> get what?
[18:00] <Habbie> that output
[18:00] <Habbie> product: ..
[18:00] <nicomachus> lshw
[18:00] <Habbie> ah nice
[18:02] <nicomachus> lshw is very handy. ;)
[18:03] <shiftplusone> Then the issue isn't what I thought it might be.
[18:03] <Habbie> yes, but in my mind it's for PCI
[18:03] <Habbie> i was wrong :)
[18:03] <shiftplusone> Habbie: you were probably thinking of lspci
[18:03] <Habbie> ah ye
[18:03] <nicomachus> and there's lsusb, another handy one
[18:03] <Habbie> that i knew :)
[18:04] <shiftplusone> and 'find /sys' (not really)
[18:04] <Habbie> :)
[18:05] <shauno> /sys/firmware/devicetree/base/model is useful, but I can never seem to remember it
[18:05] <Habbie> well this is all very good
[18:06] <Habbie> until just now the only way i knew was the gpio tool
[18:06] <shiftplusone> /proc/device-tree/model would be easier to remember
[18:06] <nicomachus> well, rpi-update is at 29 mins, 44.2M recieved
[18:06] <nicomachus> out of 55M
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[18:11] <BurtyB> Habbie, just a shame gpio from apt doesn't work on the Pi3+ :/
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[18:12] <Habbie> BurtyB, oh?
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[18:12] <Habbie> BurtyB, how does it fail for you?
[18:12] <BurtyB> Habbie, computer says "Oops - unable to determine board type... model: 13" well it does for me anyway heh
[18:12] <Habbie> hmm
[18:12] <Habbie> works fine for me on raspbian 8
[18:13] <Habbie> oh +
[18:13] <Habbie> sorry
[18:13] <Habbie> this is not a +
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[18:13] <shiftplusone> gordonDrogon: is there an updated .deb for wiringpi I could steal?
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[18:14] <nicomachus> does anyone here run OSMC on their pi?
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[18:17] <gordonDrogon> wiringpi 2.44 works fine on the 3b+
[18:17] <gordonDrogon> however gpio readall will whinge.
[18:17] <Habbie> gordonDrogon, git.drogon.net has a broken tls cert
[18:17] <gordonDrogon> has it?
[18:17] <shiftplusone> gordonDrogon: aye, BurtyB just reminded me of the gpio issue
[18:17] <gordonDrogon> http://lion.drogon.net/wiringpi-2.46-1.deb
[18:18] <Habbie> gordonDrogon, NET::ERR_CERT_SYMANTEC_LEGACY
[18:19] <shiftplusone> gordonDrogon: thanks
[18:19] <gordonDrogon> Habbie, fixed it.
[18:19] <shiftplusone> BurtyB: should be fixed in the repo within an hour or two
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[18:20] <Habbie> gordonDrogon, works
[18:20] <gordonDrogon> Habbie, just forgot to copy the new certificate stuff over.
[18:20] <Habbie> ah
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[18:21] <red9> Incredible.. 1 hour 28 minutes after installing a machine. Illegal login attempts shows up. First out is "CHINANET-JX"..
[18:21] <gordonDrogon> I bought a new 2-year one for *.drogon.net and thought I'd put it where it was needed.
[18:21] <gordonDrogon> red9, yes, incredible they took so long.
[18:22] <red9> Thankfully there are IP *plonks* ;)
[18:22] <gordonDrogon> biab.
[18:22] <Habbie> gordonDrogon, you're not on the let's encrypt bandwagon yet?
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[18:23] <GenteelBen> The Let's Encrypt bandwagon is the default. The question is whether gordonDrogon jumped off.
[18:23] <BurtyB> shiftplusone, thanks - saves a download :)
[18:23] <GenteelBen> If you jump off, remember to roll.
[18:25] <red9> Best to send some quick prayers when jumping off in advance of soul ripping ;-)
[18:26] <red9> Some nets like 42/8 is plonked on sight in filters ;)
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[18:32] <Nephilum> 9i?
[18:32] <red9> ?
[18:32] <IT_Sean> ?
[18:32] <Nephilum> sorry cat on the keyboard
[18:32] <shiftplusone> Nephilum: Hi cat, put Nephilum back on.
[18:33] <IT_Sean> cats are evil
[18:33] <shiftplusone> It is known.
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[18:34] <gordonDrogon> Habbie, letsencrypt wants to run a 1300 line script as root, so no.
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[18:34] <Habbie> gordonDrogon, there are many clients for LE
[18:34] <leewdch> hello. I have an issue with my pi zero. I have soldered a wifi dongle on it using a usb port and the GPIO pins. if I link it via usb to a router port it turns on along with the wifi dongle, if I turn it on using an outlet only the pi turns on and apparently the wifi dongle is off. I can't check if the dongle is really powered because the pi works headlessly so I wonder if you can help me figure out what is happening
[18:34] <gordonDrogon> whatever. I'm happy to pay for a wildcard for now.
[18:34] <Habbie> gordonDrogon, i run one as my user on my laptop and deploy the certs to the machines
[18:34] <Habbie> ack
[18:34] <Habbie> wildcards do make life easy
[18:35] <gordonDrogon> I did look at the script thing - it would not work with the way I setup apache anyway.
[18:35] <gordonDrogon> I wrote a management thing for myself some years ago and it looks after the config files, etc.
[18:35] <red9> Yes..cats. Their owners are up to no good ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Maos82cqguo&t=3
[18:37] <red9> re Lets encrypt. There ought to be some client that you can proof read and "allow" ?
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[18:37] <red9> Or just VM't or jail(8) it.
[18:38] <Habbie> all those things cost effort
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[18:38] <Habbie> which gordonDrogon has replaced with a simple payment
[18:38] <Habbie> that's a viable business model :)
[18:38] <red9> works too.
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[18:40] <gordonDrogon> and I've used the same person for a good number of years - it's efficient and works and I get a good deal.
[18:40] <Habbie> what did you pay?
[18:40] <gordonDrogon> "mates rates".
[18:40] <Habbie> 'ok' :)
[18:40] <red9> other stuff in the other direction gets "mates rates" in return?
[18:41] <gordonDrogon> indeed.
[18:42] <red9> and as lesser money flows both ways. The taxman gets short changed. ;)
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[18:45] <shauno> aww, poor taxman
[18:45] <red9> The ev1ls of free software ;)
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[18:52] <ground> For anyone else having issues with the 3b+. I'm happy to report that sdram_freq of 450 fixed everything and let me set my arm_freq back to 1400 with no problems. Stable for 4 days now under a heavy load. Discussion for other 3b+ owners that might have issues: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&amp;t=208821
[18:53] <red9> What were the symptoms of "bad freq" for sdram? I'll assume it were above 450 MHz ?
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[18:54] <shiftplusone> I think there were some tweaks in the firmware to improve stability in the latest image and in apt. Should've have to fiddle with sdram frequency, AFAIK.
[18:54] <ground> At 500 mhz the original default for 3b+. It constantly crashed if I tried to run a large compile with make -j 4. I was using openwrt buildroot as a test case.
[18:55] <ground> I believe the latest firmware set all 3b+ sdram freq to 450mhz
[18:55] <red9> dram is really a bunch of capacitors..
[18:57] <shiftplusone> ground: yeah, that's what I saw.
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[18:58] <ground> shiftplusone: Thanks just wanted to add my 0.02 that imo that was a correct fix.
[18:59] <red9> The DRAM is inside the same chip package as the CPU asfair?
[18:59] <shiftplusone> I think they're still looking for a better fix
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[19:01] <ground> It must be a pretty rare thing as I haven't seen it mentioned on this channel much and the forum thread pretty much died after the 450MHZ fix. If they figure something else out that's cool but I'm perfectly happy with the board in it's current config personally.
[19:01] <red9> current = 500 MHz that is?
[19:02] <CoJaBo> now, if only they could find a fix for ryzen :/
[19:02] <red9> ryzen?
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[19:03] <CoJaBo> amd CPUs, which apparently have major issues with linux even a year after release
[19:03] <red9> broken cpus or by intent perhaps..
[19:06] <ground> No, current = 450 mhz but it's stable. I'll take stability over speed any day.
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[19:07] <ground> I guess it was important enough to underclock all 3b+ boards to 450 so we'll wait and see. If there is a fix I assume most boards will be bumped back to 500
[19:12] <red9> There ought to be a curve with higher probability of a crash with higher frequency. But not with certainty however.
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[19:12] <red9> That could allow people to select their risk:benefit ratio.
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[19:13] <ground> Well you can still manually set 500mhz in config.txt if you have a good board.
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[19:15] <red9> it's a gamble. But if such curve were published. It could be based on a rational and personal choice.
[19:15] <ground> I really appreciate how the RPI people were straight up about this issue and were quick to address the problem.
[19:16] <shiftplusone> ground: when there's a new product launch, everyone is at the office very early and frantically checking all social media and github for issues.
[19:17] <ground> With my board at sdram_freq 500 it would crash before a 24 hour uptime. If someone wants extra speed at that level of instability they are free to set it in config.txt
[19:17] <red9> shiftplusone, u work at @ Pi foundation?
[19:18] <ground> hahah no, I am in USA
[19:18] <shiftplusone> red9: trading (the engineering subsidiary)
[19:18] <red9> ground, in special cases, say for computations that is saved regurarly. It can pay of.
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[19:19] <shiftplusone> Foundation focuses on the education material and all that. Trading do the hardware and software.
[19:19] <red9> hmm.. the chicken choice. To reboot and pray it works. Or to suck up a bad configuration until server visiting time(s) ;)
[19:20] <red9> shiftplusone, quick response on social media = product launch in the works? ;)
[19:20] <Habbie> haha
[19:20] <shiftplusone> heh
[19:21] <Habbie> i remember stories of stock traders watching for full car parks in silicon valley at night
[19:21] <red9> now we just got to develop "human ping" ;-)
[19:21] <red9> ;)
[19:21] <red9> small data(tm)..
[19:21] <GenteelBen> We have that; electrical shock dispensers embedded in the target's colon.
[19:21] <GenteelBen> You press the button and measure how long it takes for them to scream.
[19:22] <CoJaBo> red9: MARCO!
[19:22] <red9> latence measure? ;)
[19:22] <red9> CoJaBo, u mean the phillipine top head?
[19:23] <CoJaBo> red9: Human version of ping :P
[19:23] <IT_Sean> POLO!
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[19:23] <red9> Then every ambassador is "ping" ?
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[19:27] <red9> btw.. pre-Pi pre-small-MCU. Did anyone experiment with a home single board system networked in regards to homeautomation?
[19:28] <red9> The PIC16C84 ought to be the breakthrough in price and availability.
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[19:29] <shiftplusone> When I was curious about home automation before the pi was out and before I would've known where to start, all that I could find was expensive X10 stuff.
[19:32] <red9> When a 8-bit CPU like Z80, 6502, 6800 etc cost 20 US$. And almost as much for EPROM, some 2k SRAM and perhaps $10 PIO/SIO. Ingenuity mattered, hard.
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[19:33] <red9> I'll guess Z80 won't do video anytime soon either ;)
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[20:19] <MarkusJ> 32-bit mcus are cheap as sand
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[20:20] <MarkusJ> you can get modern cheap demo boards for quite cheap
[20:20] <MarkusJ> you just have to know what to look for
[20:20] <MarkusJ> and also you have to know how to really program embedded systems :D
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[20:21] <MarkusJ> raspi is good for those who want fast results regardless of performance
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[20:21] <MarkusJ> and I happen to be one of those ofcourse
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[20:21] <MarkusJ> but I also program embedded devices profecionally
[20:22] <MarkusJ> those are two different worlds completely
[20:23] <MarkusJ> a real 32-bit arm embedded device does not run on linux
[20:23] <davr0s> osless?
[20:23] <MarkusJ> rtos
[20:23] <MarkusJ> freertos or uC/os-III
[20:23] <davr0s> ah ok i hear problems with linux for realtime
[20:24] <MarkusJ> yeah.. linux is not really real time :D
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[20:24] <MarkusJ> if you want real time operation then you need to have something that is not linux but rtos or completely OS-less
[20:24] <davr0s> a while back i heard of a tweak to ubuntu to improve it's realtime capability for sound but i dont know if that concept is widespread , etc
[20:25] <MarkusJ> I guess you could get linux to be realtime but then you'd have to have a really custom kernel
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[20:25] <MarkusJ> the kernel should be able to service the hardware interrupts in real time
[20:25] <red9> MarkusJ, lot's of embedded appliances run Linux or BSD. To say MMU based OS vs non-MMU is "professional" requires a mre stringent feature list specified.
[20:25] <MarkusJ> depends on the time constrictions
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[20:26] <davr0s> i heard there are problems doing motor control on rpis, for this sort of reason
[20:26] <MarkusJ> motor control does not have OS
[20:26] <red9> time-to-market is one of those features..
[20:26] <davr0s> supposedly there's a problem with the gpu
[20:26] <MarkusJ> motor control systems are fpga or asic
[20:27] <MarkusJ> too fast for software
[20:27] <davr0s> motor control requires precise timing from the cpu, supposedly, which linux/rpi can't do (?) easily
[20:27] <red9> sure. But if your motor control needs a fancy GUI, TCP etc.. then u might as will employ a unix capably MCU to do it. For less money, ie less chips.
[20:27] <davr0s> what was that funny xmos thing
[20:28] <MarkusJ> you are gonna need a asic or fpga or something for the fast control
[20:28] <MarkusJ> but for the higher level control you can use what ever
[20:28] <davr0s> ok tying up a versatile cpu for pulsing a value iss silly, right?
[20:28] <red9> realtime desktop OS. I think BeOS were in those application areas. But Microsoft killed it.
[20:28] <MarkusJ> cpu for fast pulsing is stupid
[20:28] <MarkusJ> just use dedicated hw
[20:28] <MarkusJ> timers
[20:28] <MarkusJ> etc
[20:29] <red9> that what's TIM on ARM is for ;) .. if Pi have them?
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[20:29] <MarkusJ> peripherals
[20:29] <MarkusJ> arm core is for high level stuff
[20:29] <MarkusJ> timers spi ic2 etc
[20:29] <MarkusJ> use those
[20:29] <red9> Sub 1 MHz signal can usually be dealt with using bit-bang.
[20:29] <MarkusJ> just dont
[20:29] <MarkusJ> use hw
[20:30] <red9> hw = more constrictions.
[20:30] <MarkusJ> cpu time is more precious for higher level logic
[20:30] <MarkusJ> use peripherals for low level
[20:30] <red9> it all depends on the case.
[20:30] <MarkusJ> spi has dedicated hw
[20:30] <MarkusJ> in mcu
[20:30] <red9> with $2 cpu's I'm not too worried about wasting them ;)
[20:31] <MarkusJ> serial is hw
[20:31] <MarkusJ> i2c is hw
[20:31] <MarkusJ> timers are hw
[20:31] <red9> spi has nothing. The MCU have SPI capability using hw..
[20:32] <MarkusJ> if your mcu has the peripherals for timers, spi, i2c, serial, uart, usart, eth, etc....
[20:32] <MarkusJ> just use the correct registers
[20:32] <MarkusJ> dont bit bang anything
[20:32] <MarkusJ> just control register and the hw will take care of everything
[20:33] <red9> the documentation on those things is heavy. So it usually ends up with a C-compiler + library. Which of course don't want to play ball with anything else.
[20:33] <red9> So.. bit-bang ;)
[20:33] <MarkusJ> the HW will buffer input and output and will even interrupt the cpu when the frame has been received
[20:34] * BurtyB pets his i2c code that uses hardware and sits there in a loop waiting for the register says it's complete heh
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[20:35] <MarkusJ> if you use CPU to bitbang basic usart operation then you are just stupid
[20:36] <MarkusJ> there has been dedicated HW for that for as long as I have been alive
[20:36] <MarkusJ> and that is not long
[20:36] <MarkusJ> just use the hw
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[20:36] <MarkusJ> please
[20:36] <BurtyB> or just do what you want and be happy
[20:36] <MarkusJ> then you are just making global warming more rapid
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[20:37] <MarkusJ> the hw is more efficient and uses less electricity and gives more cycles for the cpu to do more complex stuff
[20:38] <oy1r> is it possible to see the input voltage on the rpi in terminal ?
[20:39] <MarkusJ> I think there should be but I don't know from the top of my head
[20:39] <MarkusJ> it should be just a simple command to read one of the analog pins
[20:40] <Habbie> i don't think the pi has analog pins?
[20:40] <MarkusJ> :D
[20:40] <Habbie> as far as i know, you can get the count of input voltage drops
[20:40] <Habbie> but not much more
[20:40] <Habbie> but i could be totally wrog
[20:40] <Habbie> wrong
[20:40] <Habbie> in any case, check out vcgencmd
[20:41] <MarkusJ> I don't actively program the PI but surely it has ADC
[20:41] <MarkusJ> I have used the PI for linux stuff but haven't really used the peripherals but surely... it has to have ADC
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[20:42] <Habbie> i don't think it does :)
[20:43] <MarkusJ> I think you are right
[20:43] <d0rm0us3> ?
[20:43] <MarkusJ> it seems rpi needs a hat for ADC
[20:43] <d0rm0us3> It should.. along with a sampler... audio circuits
[20:44] <MarkusJ> still
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[20:44] <MarkusJ> seems like a waste
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[20:44] <elektrinis> hello
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[20:44] <MarkusJ> such good HW is wasted when people bitbang stuff on the PI
[20:45] <MarkusJ> if only it had proper peripherals
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[20:45] <MarkusJ> real mcu:s have such good stuff :D
[20:45] <MarkusJ> no need to bitbang basic stuff
[20:47] <BurtyB> or again, just do what you want and be happy
[20:47] <MarkusJ> sure
[20:47] <MarkusJ> it's a good device for learning stuff or hor hobbying :D
[20:48] <elektrinis> I have a usb sound card. Is there a way to route line in to out?
[20:48] <BurtyB> or bitbang everything to annoy MarkusJ :)
[20:48] <MarkusJ> I didn't mean to rant :)
[20:48] <MarkusJ> it just happened :)
[20:48] <MarkusJ> sorry :D
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[20:49] <MarkusJ> I've just had a long week at work and this felt like a safe space to let off some steam :)
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[20:50] <MarkusJ> nothing really against the rpi people :D
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[20:52] <MarkusJ> It's sad when professionals in the embdedded programming world even don't know how to use the peripherals correcltly
[20:53] <MarkusJ> nothing more :)
[20:53] <MarkusJ> continue :D
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[20:59] <SpeedEvil> MarkusJ: If only it had documented peripherals.
[21:00] <MarkusJ> SpeedEvil: yeah that is a real problem with a lot of things...
[21:00] <SpeedEvil> Clearly some are documented.
[21:01] <MarkusJ> If I had good documentation I would never have to talk with anyhbofu
[21:01] <MarkusJ> *body
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[21:01] <MarkusJ> but most of my work day is spent actually, talking
[21:01] <MarkusJ> maybe 20% is actually coding
[21:01] <MarkusJ> rest is talking and plannign
[21:02] <MarkusJ> and well bug fixing and reading
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[21:02] <MarkusJ> but not much is new code :D
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[21:03] <MarkusJ> talking, planning, fixing, reading
[21:03] <MarkusJ> and then if there is time
[21:03] <MarkusJ> coding
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[21:04] <MarkusJ> and mostly the coding part is the most easy part
[21:04] <MarkusJ> the difficult part is planning and coordinating with different deparments
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[21:14] <tempate> Hello. On an attempt to set up a static address for my pi, I failed and can't ssh into it now. https://www.modmypi.com/blog/how-to-give-your-raspberry-pi-a-static-ip-address-update - is the tutorial I followed. Is there anything I can do apart from reinstalling raspbian?
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[21:15] <zleap> can you not just plug the pi in to a monitor and log in normally ?
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[21:16] <tempate> nope
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[21:16] <IT_Sean> why not?
[21:16] <tempate> because I don't own one :D
[21:16] <zleap> ok
[21:17] <red9> a monitor+kbd or the Pi? ;)
[21:17] <IT_Sean> you don't own any sort of monitor with an hdmi gazinta?
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[21:17] <tempate> nope
[21:17] <IT_Sean> no tv made in the last decade?
[21:17] <tempate> once again, nope
[21:17] <IT_Sean> do you literally live in a cave?
[21:17] <zleap> how do you install rasbiab without a monitor at least in the first instance
[21:17] <tempate> no, I just don't watch TV
[21:18] <red9> be it b/w, composite, SCART, component etc..
[21:18] <AGTT> Hi! Which are the supported filesystem types for the rootfs? Is ext4 the only supported one? Would if be possible to use XFS for the rootfs?
[21:18] <tempate> from an iMac
[21:18] <zleap> ok can you log in to a router and that may tell you the IP of the pi
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[21:18] <red9> serial console is also an option.
[21:19] <Jusii> nmap -sP 192.168.1.1-255 scans given ip range and tells you where the pi is
[21:19] <tempate> zleap: the thing is I believe I set a "static router/domain_name_servers" that points nowhere in "/etc/dhcpcd.conf"
[21:20] <zleap> can you put the sd card into another computer , mount the file system and try and edit the files from there
[21:20] <zleap> a bit messy but may work
[21:20] <tempate> yes, that's what I was thinking
[21:20] <tempate> I don't know what I should edit though
[21:20] <red9> tcpdump may find it
[21:20] <zleap> same files as you edited to try and set a static ip
[21:20] <tempate> Jussi: I've already scanned the network at least 10 times without any results
[21:20] <zleap> /etc/network/interfaces i think
[21:21] <tempate> oh, that's cool
[21:21] <tempate> let me give it a try
[21:21] <zleap> ok
[21:21] <tempate> ty
[21:21] <zleap> np
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[21:24] <red9> got any 3,3V serial connection?
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[21:25] <shauno> or a spare ethernet cable and a host OS that understands ipv6?
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[21:28] <shauno> (I connect the pi straight to my computer, do a broadcast ping on the ethernet ports (eg ping6 -c 3 -I eth0 ff02::1), and ssh into the reply that isn't my address. it sounds convoluted, but it's very handy when v4 is unconfigured or misconfigured)
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[21:35] <tempate> That worked, zleap
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[21:43] <AGTT> XFS seems to work as well.
[21:45] <zleap> tempate cool
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