#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2018-04-28

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[0:37] <i-make-robots> hello. I'm having a sarcastically great time trying to follow tutorials to stream video from a pi b+. I have raspi-update, apt-get install vlc, and after that I run into lots of trouble.
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[0:38] <HrdwrBoB> vlc should work the same as aywhere else
[0:39] <i-make-robots> fwiw, i have revision 000e, a 2012 model B.
[0:39] <i-make-robots> i started with https://www.lewisroberts.com/2015/05/15/raspberry-pi-mjpeg-at-30fps/
[0:39] <i-make-robots> then https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=43969&start=150
[0:39] <i-make-robots> then https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=43969
[0:40] <i-make-robots> when i run my script (based on the first link) i get no suitable interface module, cannot open file /home/pi, then it stops
[0:40] <i-make-robots> i put the module in the /etc/modules list and enabled camera in raspi-config
[0:41] <HrdwrBoB> and rebooted
[0:41] <i-make-robots> ./dev/video0 exists
[0:41] <i-make-robots> many times
[0:41] <i-make-robots> my exact script will be in pastebin in a second...
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[0:47] <i-make-robots> https://pastebin.com/fF47gtnU
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[0:48] <i-make-robots> i also tried piping raspivid -o to vlc -vvv
[0:49] <i-make-robots> so... anything obvious I overlooked? :(
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[3:36] <Turlough> hey guys question i'm helping setup a pi 3 for a friend however we both have an IPAZZPort wireless keypad mine works fine on his pi but the one he has fails to respond
[3:36] <Turlough> possibly a hardware issue not sure as the USB port works fine any suggestions?
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[3:39] <larsks> Turlough: if that uses a usb dongle, it's probably a hardware problem. From the perspective your Pi it's just another keyboard.
[3:39] <Turlough> thats exactly what i'm thinkin
[3:39] <larsks> Try plugging it into something else (laptop/desktop)?
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[5:15] <TheDoudou> hi i have a problem with dhcp/tftp at rpi (for cisco) and dhcp at router
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[5:19] <TheDoudou> realy hate dhcp
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[7:39] <red9> Is there any "tar" option to verify that files are in archive. Not as the --compare option which verifies that archive contents are on disc?
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[8:46] <Markdown1_> what would be a good OS for a headless unit?
[8:48] <Markdown1_> also any good Web UI for remote status/management?
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[9:19] <Styil> Yo, my RPI is in a boot loop
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[9:19] <Styil> Any way to at least get into a terminal?
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[9:22] <red9> Styil, serial console?
[9:22] <Styil> ?
[9:22] <Styil> What is that?
[9:23] <tvm> Styil, https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/3751/oops-i-need-runlevel-1?utm_medium=organic&utm_source=google_rich_qa&utm_campaign=google_rich_qa
[9:23] <tvm> there's several ways
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[9:23] <tvm> this looks outdated though, hmm
[9:23] <Styil> Oh
[9:23] <Styil> Cool beans
[9:23] <Styil> I have a jumper handy right next to me
[9:24] <tvm> well, try if it still works
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[9:27] <tvm> the third answer in that link might be the most relevant now though
[9:27] <Styil> Yep
[9:27] <Styil> Still seems to boot loop
[9:27] <Styil> That’s a damn shame
[9:27] <Styil> It would be really cool to enter recovery mode this way
[9:27] <Styil> Don’t know why they removed it
[9:28] <red9> Styil, Get a 3,3V TTL asynkronious serial port to some other computer. Then wire it to pin 6,8,10
[9:28] <Styil> I’m starting to remember why I stopped using Linux
[9:28] <red9> parameters (usually): 115200 8N1
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[9:36] <tvm> Styil, i would just take out the SD, put it elsewhere, edit cmdline.txt and put it back
[9:36] <Styil> aye, thats what I just did
[9:36] <Styil> but damn
[9:36] <Styil> really hate this bs
[9:37] <tvm> yeah, i know
[9:37] <Styil> a damn boot loop for trying to automatically mount a usb drive
[9:37] <tvm> how did that happen ?
[9:37] <Styil> clearly I am a udev noob :P
[9:37] <red9> Try FreeBSD..
[9:37] <tvm> Styil, i understand ;-)
[9:38] <Styil> My first attempt at a udev ruleset :P
[9:38] <Styil> I am really surprised there are no packages for such a thing
[9:38] <Styil> or at least setting for it
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[9:38] <Styil> this seems like a really standard thing most OS's have these days
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[9:39] <Styil> first this, then the ubuntu installer apparently doesnt support my graphics driver
[9:40] <Styil> thought I would kill two birds with one stone and try to fix this while I reinstall ubuntu on my desktop
[9:40] <Styil> apparently not
[9:48] <Styil> guess ill just reinstall this whole thing
[9:48] <Styil> booting into recovery mode ends up in an old problem that I thought was fixed the last time I used recovery mode
[9:49] <Styil> found the udev file, but can't remove it because the OS apparently doesnt want to remount the system as read and write
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[10:46] <davr0s> is there a USB device with a few buttons and LEDs
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[10:48] <red9> External keypad?
[10:48] <davr0s> yeah something like that.. small
[10:49] <red9> Just scavenge and modify a keyboard to your specification?
[10:49] <BurtyB> probably tho I just made my own heh
[10:49] <red9> Has 3x LED and lot's of inputs. Just controlled by a single chip usually.
[10:49] <davr0s> for what i have in mind a gamepad would be a better starting point probably
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[11:18] <mlelstv> http://www.getbrainier.com/home/14-usb-push-button-photo-booth-style.html
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[14:00] <tuxiano> Hi, I've installed raspbian stretch on a rpi3b+ and setup an NFS share. Sadly the upload rate is very inconstant (varies from 0Bytes/s to 28MB/s).
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[14:01] <tuxiano> I'm using a wired 1Gbit/s LAN connection.
[14:02] <mfa298> tuxiano: 28MB/s might be maxing out the USB on the Pi3B+ (the ethernet is on the usb port)
[14:02] <mfa298> iff your storage is also USB then that will be contending with the ethernet
[14:03] <tuxiano> thats okay, but its not constant at all.
[14:04] <mfa298> it might be worth trying to rate limit it down a bit. if your maxing it out then that might cause thing to pause briefly (maybe ethernet flow control stopping things for a bit)
[14:04] <tuxiano> on an rpi3b it remained constant at 10-11MB/s
[14:05] <tuxiano> I tried: ethtool -s eth0 speed 100 duplex full
[14:05] <tuxiano> but still the same ...
[14:06] <mfa298> that might give more issues, fixing one end of the link can break auto negotiate so might mean the other end is running in half duplex mode.
[14:06] <mfa298> I'd possibly look at QoS to try and rate limit instead.
[14:07] <BurtyB> tuxiano, you might also want to have a read of https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/issues/2449 to see if it applies to your usage
[14:09] <tuxiano> thank you mfa298, BurtyB
[14:10] <tuxiano> At least I'm not the only one having problems with the ethernet ...
[14:10] <tuxiano> of the rpi3b+, rpi3b was slow but at least it worked
[14:11] <BurtyB> yeah, I'm sure they'll get it fixed eventually tho
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[14:17] <ShorTie> ya, new chip, gotta work the bugs out
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[14:27] <tuxiano> If I ran iperf I get a constant transfer rate of 40MB/s
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[14:28] <tuxiano> Looks, like there is an issue with the usb harddrive connected to the rpi3b+.
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[14:33] <tuxiano> It looks like rpi3b+ has two usb ports
[14:33] <tuxiano> *usb hubs, sorry
[14:34] <tuxiano> how can I figure out, to which is the NIC connected?
[14:35] <mfa298> tuxiano: should be a single hub with 5 ports (on of which is internally connected to the ethernet
[14:35] <BCMM> tuxiano: lsusb -t
[14:35] <mfa298> the soc only has a single usb2 port
[14:35] <BCMM> although, as mfa298 says, i don't think there's actually 2 hubs inside the pi
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[14:36] <tuxiano> lsusb tells me that it has two USB 2.0 Hubs
[14:36] <BCMM> is it possible you've actually got a hub plugged in to the pi? some devices contain hubs when you wouldn't expect it, like wireless keyboard/mouse combo recievers
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[14:37] <BCMM> tuxiano: oh, or do you mean the "root hub" and the hub that's plugged directly in to that?
[14:38] <tuxiano> lsusb list 2x USB 2.0 Hub and 1x 2.0 root hub
[14:38] <tuxiano> *1x Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[14:39] <BCMM> tuxiano: hmmm. can you pastebin `lsusb -t`?
[14:39] <kuri0> does the 3b+ support usb gadget ?
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[14:39] <BCMM> kuri0: no. only pis with single USB ports do that
[14:39] <mfa298> kuri0: no, it cant as theres a usb hub in the way
[14:40] <tuxiano> BCMM: https://pastebin.com/0UUnTzXn
[14:40] <BCMM> kuri0: the SoC itself is OTG capable, but the internal hub on the model B isn't
[14:41] <BCMM> tuxiano: what's actually plugged in to the pi currently?
[14:41] <mfa298> tuxiano: that looks like theres a hub inside whatever your usb storage is
[14:41] <tuxiano> an remote keyboar receiver and an usb hub
[14:42] <tuxiano> now, everything is disconnected https://pastebin.com/uR1j3As5
[14:42] <kuri0> BCMM, doesn't the zero have more than one port ?
[14:43] <BCMM> kuri0: "sort of, but not really"
[14:43] <BCMM> kuri0: there's a microusb port for feeding in power (no data lines)
[14:43] <BCMM> kuri0: and there's also a functional microusb OTG port
[14:44] <BCMM> the two ports look identical, but only one of them actually speaks USB
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[14:45] <BCMM> it's the same USB configuration as the model A, just with the USB port miniaturised
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[14:45] <kuri0> BCMM, so because there's a hub on the model b/b+ it can't do otg. i guess there aren't any otg capable hubs
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[14:46] <BCMM> tuxiano: looks like you're right, and the internal hub/ethernet chip presents itself as a "hub inside a hub"
[14:47] <BurtyB> yeah it has 2 hubs
[14:47] <BCMM> tuxiano: but yeah, it's typical for logitich unifying recievers to appear as a hub too
[14:48] <tuxiano> BCMM: those two usb hubs still appear, if I disconnect all usb devices
[14:49] <BCMM> tuxiano: actually i think i'm incorrect there. the logitech thing is a single device with multiple usbhid Ifs; your external "hub" is USB-SATA bridge
[14:49] <tuxiano> Now, I tried all four ports https://pastebin.com/RUCnk7S2
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[14:50] <tuxiano> I mean, I connected the usb harddrive (without additonal hub) to all four ports
[14:50] <BCMM> tuxiano: https://www.rs-online.com/designspark/raspberry-pi-3-model-b-vs-3-model-b - looks like this is an actual change on the 3b+
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[14:51] <ali1234> yes, logitech unifying is just one device - actually it's an NRF51 microcontroller usually... you can reflash it
[14:52] <ali1234> my bad, it's NRF24
[14:52] <BCMM> tuxiano: so the model b has always used a chip with an integrated USB hub + USB ethernet controller. with the 3b+, they upgraded that chip to the LAN7515.
[14:53] <BCMM> tuxiano: the LAN7515 actually supports 6 USB ports, and uses an additional internal "hub" to do this. however, the foundation upgraded just for faster ethernet, and doesn't actually expose the additional USB ports
[14:53] <BCMM> (on the pi)
[14:54] <tuxiano> BCMM: ok, I will test, if it makes a difference, if I connect the harddrive to a port on the left or on the right side.
[14:55] <BCMM> tuxiano: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:_NL5j6A14PUJ:https://www.microchip.com/wwwproducts/ProductCompare/LAN7515/LAN9514+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&client=firefox-b
[14:55] <BCMM> sorry for the long link, the microchip site is down right now
[14:57] <tuxiano> if i connect it to a port on the right side transfer rate is better
[14:57] <tuxiano> it varies from 10MB/s to 28MB/s
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[14:59] <tuxiano> well, lost the connection again ...
[15:00] <tuxiano> no chance, ethernet is broken on rpi3b+. I tried it with two different devices, changed every cable and reinstalled the os ten times ...
[15:01] <HighInBC> I always though GPIO headers for the D+/D- of USB would be very handy
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[15:02] <HighInBC> I hate it when I have to make a hat and then have it also attach to the USB port
[15:02] <HighInBC> even test points for the extra 2 would be nice
[15:03] <BurtyB> BCMM, shame there's real full datasheet on the lan7515 (and that you can't buy it) :(
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[15:06] <ali1234> you know what would be really good... a mini ITX or NUC compatible breakout board for CM3
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[15:12] <ali1234> cnsidering that there isn't really a standard for NUC port layout... mini ITX would probably be better
[15:12] <ali1234> even though its bigger
[15:12] <ali1234> but hey you can cram more stuff on it then...
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[15:18] <ali1234> also there would finally be room to put all the connectors on one edge
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[15:41] <yaymuffins> Hello
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[15:43] <yaymuffins> I'm having an issue with a RPi B (V.1 Rev 1) and GPIOs, I have a switch on GPIO1 (Pin 5) and two relay on GPIO 17 and 18
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[15:43] <yaymuffins> when I change the direction of the pin to switch the relay, the value of the switch change
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[15:47] <methuzla> GPIO1 = input connected to switch GPIO17 and 18 = outputs connected to relays ??
[15:47] <yaymuffins> Yes
[15:48] <yaymuffins> or rather, outputs and input, I'm changing the direction to enable/disable relays
[15:48] <yaymuffins> (for 17 and 18)
[15:48] <methuzla> what are the relays?
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[15:49] <yaymuffins> the generic 2 modules things, https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1978/9859/products/05_46_1_large.jpg?v=1502520094
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[15:50] <yaymuffins> on +5V, Ground, 17 and 18
[15:50] <methuzla> you don't change pin direction (IN/OUT), you change pin state (LOW/HIGH)
[15:51] <methuzla> leave them as output
[15:52] <yaymuffins> OK, that make more sense
[15:52] <yaymuffins> tho it doesn't fix the switch issue :<
[15:53] <methuzla> sounds like switch/GPIO1 should be input
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[15:53] <methuzla> again, don't change that, and this time you read the state
[15:54] <yaymuffins> it is input already
[15:54] <methuzla> what's the issue then?
[15:54] <yaymuffins> Well, I don't want the switch to be triggered when I going low/high on the relays
[15:55] <methuzla> what is the switch?
[15:55] <methuzla> not sure what you mean by having it be triggered
[15:55] <yaymuffins> GPIO1, and it's well, a push button
[15:56] <yaymuffins> It's value change when I touch the relays GPIO
[15:56] <yaymuffins> as if I pressed the button
[15:56] <methuzla> sounds like a floating input issue, probably need to enable pull ups
[15:56] <methuzla> what are you programming in?
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[15:57] <yaymuffins> I'm re-using a script for my purpose, I'm not that good with code, but the part that handle the switch is Python
[15:58] <yaymuffins> the relay, up to now, I was testing directly from bash, sending it the change via echo to /sys/class...
[15:58] <methuzla> is the python part using RPi.GPIO?
[15:58] <yaymuffins> "import RPi.GPIO as GPIO"
[15:58] <yaymuffins> yup
[15:59] <methuzla> https://sourceforge.net/p/raspberry-gpio-python/wiki/Inputs/
[15:59] <methuzla> GPIO.setup(channel, GPIO.IN, pull_up_down=GPIO.PUD_UP)
[16:00] <methuzla> my guess is you currently just have something like:
[16:00] <methuzla> GPIO.setup(channel, GPIO.IN)
[16:00] <yaymuffins> I see "GPIO.setup(self.pin_onhook, GPIO.IN)" in the code
[16:01] <methuzla> so pull up is not enabled. and you have a floating input.
[16:02] <methuzla> when your switch on GPIO1 is not pressed, you will get indeterminate readings
[16:02] <methuzla> enable pull up, and it will be HIGH when not pressed, LOW when pressed
[16:03] <methuzla> assuming you've wired the switch between GPIO1 and GND
[16:03] <yaymuffins> Done that, but it hasn't fixed the issue
[16:03] <methuzla> how is the switch wired?
[16:04] <yaymuffins> straight to the GPIO, pin 1 on GPIO 1, pin 2 on GND
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[16:04] <yaymuffins> And normally if I got the thing right, GPIO1 is one of the GPIO with a built-in resistor
[16:05] <methuzla> can you pastebin your code?
[16:05] <yaymuffins> Well, here it is, https://github.com/Szpeja/RotaryPi/blob/master/modules/RotaryDial.py
[16:05] <yaymuffins> minus the change I just did for pull up
[16:06] <yaymuffins> line 44 now being "GPIO.setup(self.pin_rotary, GPIO.IN, pull_up_down=GPIO.PUD_UP)"
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[16:06] <yaymuffins> well, wait, I'll pastebin my copy
[16:06] <yaymuffins> I did a bit more change actually
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[16:07] <yaymuffins> https://pastebin.com/raw/3CUGwzdm
[16:08] <yaymuffins> It's worth knowing also that the rotary on pin 0 doesn't seem to have any issue when I change the relays.
[16:08] <GrandPa-G> I am trying to ping my pi from windows 7. I can ping the ip but not the hostname of the pi - returns cound not find host... Suggestions?
[16:08] <yaymuffins> on GPIO0*
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[16:09] <methuzla> you've only enabled pull up on pin 0
[16:09] <methuzla> GPIO.setup(self.pin_rotary, GPIO.IN, pull_up_down=GPIO.PUD_UP)
[16:09] <BurtyB> GrandPa-G, if you have bonjour on you should be able to "ping hostname.local"
[16:10] <methuzla> pin 1 is still floating
[16:10] <yaymuffins> Damn it
[16:10] <yaymuffins> Oops
[16:10] <methuzla> GPIO.setup(self.pin_onhook, GPIO.IN)
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[16:10] <GrandPa-G> BurtyB:I have bonjour service running. no .local doesn't work either.
[16:11] <gordonDrogon> yaymuffins, Congratulations. You have a cheap chinese relay board that probably said "Raspberry Pi" in the product description, but the reality is that it's a 5v device and you are putting 5v into the Pi.
[16:11] <yaymuffins> Oh.
[16:11] <gordonDrogon> and to everyone else- the clue is: When putting the pin in input mode the relay changes state. It's feeding 5v into the Pi which canny take it with a 3.3v output.
[16:12] <yaymuffins> I doubt that for one reason
[16:12] <GrandPa-G> BurtyB:something on this windows machine is the problem, another windows works. My problem now.
[16:12] <yaymuffins> the relay is connected to 25VDC and the pi isn't visibly burning
[16:13] <gordonDrogon> yaymuffins, doubt it all you like, but I've seen many of these board that simply won't work with the Pi - however if you set the pin to output mode LOW, then it will work, but the only way to turn the relay off is to switch the pin. mode to input mode.
[16:13] <gordonDrogon> the relay is being powered by the Pi's 5v line.
[16:13] <yaymuffins> Oh.
[16:13] <gordonDrogon> the contacts side is independant - that's the intention, but the coil side is driven by the Pi.
[16:13] <methuzla> what do you have VCC connected to?
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[16:14] <gordonDrogon> The circuit is usually Pi's 5v -> resistor -> LED (part of an opto isolator) -> Pin -> Pi's GPIO pin.
[16:14] <yaymuffins> gordonDrogon, I can quickly check, between control and ground?
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[16:14] <gordonDrogon> so Pi pin in output mode, switched low turns the LEd on, but Pi pin in output mode high just isn't high enough to turn the LED off.
[16:15] <gordonDrogon> the vast majority of Chinese/Sainsmart/clone relay boards work like this.
[16:15] <gordonDrogon> you can quickly check using the gpio command (or some other command-line tool).
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[16:16] <yaymuffins> I'm not that good with electronic, but can I fix the issue somehow, putting a resistor somewhere or something like that?
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[16:17] <Arlenx> hi,I need to execute a 'ps -A' command on a raspberry from a node-red 'exec' node block.it's work fine if i try the command from a raspberry shell but can't execute it from a node-red help please.
[16:17] <gordonDrogon> yaymuffins, you can fix the issue by buying a board designed for the Pi.
[16:18] <gordonDrogon> However, doing this: pin level -> 0v/Low, pin mode output - relay on - pin mode input -> relay off will work as a temporary measure.
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[16:18] <gordonDrogon> so just change the direction from in to out to turn relay on (output mode) or off (input mode).
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[16:19] <gordonDrogon> check with the command: gpio -g mode 17 in ; gpio -g write 17 0
[16:20] <gordonDrogon> assuming it's bcm_gpio pin 17. Realy ought to be off, then to turn relay on: gpio -g mode 17 out
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[16:20] <yaymuffins> I confirm, I see power on the control lines :<
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[16:22] <gordonDrogon> sadly there are a great many sellers of stuff on ebay, etc. that just put "Raspberry Pi" in the description as a bit of click-bait.
[16:22] <gordonDrogon> Sainsmart, to their credit, now actually say they need a separate level converter board for Pi's which they make, but the vast majority of clones don't bother.
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[16:23] <gordonDrogon> Also, sadly, there are not many Pi relay boards ... Once upon a time I had plans to make my own, but to do it properly involves testing, liability, etc. so just wan't worth it.
[16:23] <gordonDrogon> The PiFace board is designed for the Pi and has 3 (maybe now 3) relays on-board.
[16:28] <yaymuffins> The method you gave me seem to function, at least with one pin
[16:28] <yaymuffins> so it will have to do until I can get a better relay board
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[16:28] <yaymuffins> thanks
[16:29] <gordonDrogon> you'll get away with it for home/hobby use - don't use it in production though.
[16:29] <yaymuffins> Yeah, it's for home usage only anyway
[16:30] <yaymuffins> (Project goal is to use a rotary phone as a SIP Phone, the relay come in play for the ringtone, because I didn't felt comfortable playing with 90V AC so the relay is switching polarity to an electromagnet)
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[16:38] <yaymuffins> damn, it's too slow and still causing issue once properly tested :<
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[16:41] <yaymuffins> I'm surprised tho that it doesn't seem to cause an issue on the rotary dial
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[16:54] <gordonDrogon> oh that's what you're doing. ..
[16:54] <gordonDrogon> I just used a grandstream ht-503
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[17:02] <danielboston26> i am trying to add my ssh key to my authorized_keys file but i am getting a error saying my key does not exist
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[17:06] <danielboston26> hi rorro
[17:06] <rorro> Hi
[17:06] <danielboston26> rorro would you give me a hand with something?
[17:07] <Project86__> What's a recommended 2fa to use on pi?
[17:07] <danielboston26> Project86__ for what use?
[17:09] <Project86__> Anything remote (ssh, ftp..
[17:09] <rorro> danielboston26, how can i help?
[17:09] <Project86__> Is there different ones for specific uses?
[17:09] <danielboston26> Project86__what are you trying to do? your question is a bit vague
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[17:10] <danielboston26> rorro i am trying to copy my id_rsa.pub key to my authorized_keys file but when i use cat to do this i get a message saying id_rsa.pub does not exist
[17:10] <danielboston26> ah
[17:10] <danielboston26> i missed that Project86__
[17:10] <danielboston26> ubikey is very secure
[17:11] <danielboston26> if you want a physical thingy
[17:11] <danielboston26> yubikey*
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[17:12] <Project86__> danielboston26: thank you. Would it be better to not have a physical 2fa? I'm all for saving memory if there's a web based one
[17:12] <danielboston26> its more secure
[17:12] <danielboston26> there are 2fa apps as well
[17:13] <rorro> danielboston26, are you looking in the correct folder?
[17:13] <danielboston26> rorro yes
[17:13] <rorro> should be in ~/.ssh
[17:13] <danielboston26> Project86__authy is a good one
[17:13] <danielboston26> rorro i am
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[17:14] <danielboston26> Project86__yubikey is going to be the most secure but kind of a pain as you need to have it on device everytime you want to do something
[17:14] <danielboston26> if you want to use a software token there are tons
[17:14] <rorro> danielboston26, alright, then you need to generate one first.
[17:14] <danielboston26> authy is good
[17:14] <danielboston26> google has one so does microsoft
[17:15] <rorro> danielboston26, 'ssh-keygen"
[17:15] <danielboston26> rorro it is generated im not sure what the issue is im also in openssh channel as well
[17:15] <rorro> What os are you running?
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[17:19] <NGC3982> os in swedish is the term used to describe the fat filled gas that eminates from food being cooked.
[17:20] <rorro> wat
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[17:20] <danielboston26> raspbian stretch
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[17:21] <rorro> NGC3982, i've never heard or seen that being used.
[17:21] <danielboston26> tis a mystery
[17:22] <rorro> danielboston26, did you accidentally save the keys somewhere other than default location when generating them?
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[17:22] <danielboston26> i had it working but i wanted to make it more secure since i opened it up to the outside world so i could ssh from outside
[17:22] <NGC3982> rorro: you speak swedish and have never heard about stek-os? :)
[17:22] <Project86__> NGC3982: good info lol
[17:22] <danielboston26> since i did that im getting a publickey premission deined error and ive been trying to fix that
[17:23] <rorro> NGC3982, yep :)
[17:23] <danielboston26> im gusssing its because the keys aren't added to authorized keys but thats where im hitting the road block
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[17:23] <danielboston26> rorro i don't believe so
[17:23] <danielboston26> ~/.ssh is the default correct?
[17:23] <rorro> yes
[17:23] <danielboston26> do they also have to be in /etc/ssh?
[17:24] <rorro> You shouldn't need to touch those
[17:24] <danielboston26> Project86__did that answer your question?
[17:24] <danielboston26> rorro ok
[17:24] <rorro> What are you trying to do? Connect via ssh with an ssh key and no password?
[17:25] <Project86__> danielboston26: yes, thanks alot
[17:25] <danielboston26> rorro correct if you scroll back in the chat i explain it
[17:25] <danielboston26> Project86__i use authy currently but have been thinking of switching to yubikey
[17:26] <danielboston26> the only problem with that is yubikey won't work with smartphones
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[17:26] <rorro> danielboston26, what does the command 'ssh-keygen' return?
[17:26] <danielboston26> there are nfc yubikeys and i believe theres one that will work with ios
[17:26] <rorro> danielboston26, does it generate new keys?
[17:27] <danielboston26> its generating a key pair
[17:27] <danielboston26> funny it thinks there isn't one
[17:27] <danielboston26> odd
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[17:28] <danielboston26> but if i do ls -l ~/.ssh it seems them
[17:28] <danielboston26> should i make new ones? rorro
[17:28] <Project86__> danielboston26: thanks for the info
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[17:29] <rorro> Now I'm confused. So the file id_rsa.pub file exists?
[17:29] <danielboston26> i can see it in .ssh
[17:29] <danielboston26> but raspbian thinks it doesn't
[17:29] <danielboston26> maybe its a bug?
[17:30] <rorro> danielboston26, so 'cat ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub' gives you the error?
[17:31] <danielboston26> pastebin.com/UdFGHKtB
[17:31] <danielboston26> Project86__will you be logging into your pi from a smartphone or tablet?
[17:32] <danielboston26> rorro check out that pastebin
[17:34] <danielboston26> Project86__instead of doing it with physical key you can do it with certificates like im trying to do
[17:34] <rorro> danielboston26, this is what i get https://pastebin.com/DiZAAkMK
[17:35] <rorro> Your first command should be 'cat ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys'
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[17:36] <danielboston26> i also got it with that command but ill try it again
[17:37] <programmerq> other than the raspberry pi zero models, do any other pis support otg on their microusb port?
[17:37] <programmerq> googling for that answer brings up a ton of stuff about the otg on the zero
[17:37] <danielboston26> programmerq don't think so
[17:37] <danielboston26> you could try googleing your specific model and see if that narrows it down
[17:37] <rorro> danielboston26, what does pwd give you?
[17:38] <programmerq> yeah, I did that and it turned a bunch of info about using the otg on the zero with that model, lol
[17:38] <programmerq> plugging in a zero to a 2 or a 3
[17:38] <danielboston26> programmerq that i would guess it doesn't
[17:38] <danielboston26> then*
[17:38] <programmerq> thanks for confirming. :)
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[17:39] <programmerq> I've got a microusb connector on one of my pis that's about dead and I was thinking about maybe swapping it out for a barrel jack since it's just for power and then my brain went "wait, *IS IT* just for power?"
[17:39] <danielboston26> duh
[17:39] <danielboston26> lol
[17:39] <danielboston26> think i figured it out
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[17:41] <danielboston26> im an idiot
[17:41] <danielboston26> *goes and hids*
[17:42] <danielboston26> rorro i was in the wrong directory *embrassed*
[17:43] <danielboston26> programmerq asfik it is just for power however it doesn't hurt to try
[17:44] <rorro> danielboston26, that's what i suspected and asked for pwd :P Also the ~ in the command ;)
[17:44] <shauno> it's just power. there's no otg on any pi that has a usb hub (has ethernet, has more than one usb-a plug, etc)
[17:45] <danielboston26> makes sense
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[17:45] <danielboston26> why have otg when you have a usb hub
[17:46] <shauno> it's more that the hub ruins otg
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[17:56] <shauno> (it's not impossible, it'd just require a much cleverer hub. a hub shares one host port to many device ports. if the pi is pretending to be a device, it's still wired to the host port)
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[18:15] <r3> gordonDrogon: I meant to ask you if I could /msg you, but did anyway - sorry about that
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[19:07] <Ben64> I want my pi to boot up, run a python program, and just sit there displaying it for eternity
[19:07] <Ben64> Got it all working, except the screen blanks after a bit, how can I disable that?
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[20:29] <parco> Hi everyone.
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[20:29] <parco> Is it possible to connect any MIPI display to the raspberry pi?
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[20:31] <parco> Or I guess, what would be involved in writing a custom DSI driver?
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[20:33] <red9> 0) check if signal levels match 1) check if signaling and hw protocol matches 2) hit the hardware with software skills.
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[20:34] <parco> red9: it's my understanding the driver exists in a binary blob, how easy is it to swap in my driver in the scheme of things?
[20:35] <parco> like could i swap in some c files, and rebuild image?
[20:37] <red9> what is the framework/api's that the blob uses?
[20:39] <parco> red9: i imagine there's a kernel right, one that is closed sourced by the foundation?
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[20:46] <zleap> hi, i have downloaded noobs and unzipped the archive, copied this on to a sd card with fat32, and when I try and boot it, it says cannot find disk images
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[20:50] <red9> parco, is the blob a kernel module?
[20:50] <parco> i have no idea, i was asking you :P
[20:51] <parco> I know how to write C drivers, I don't know OS and kernel in the scheme of things
[20:52] <zleap> there are some good guides out there for linux kernel internals
[20:52] <parco> I need help seeing the big picture so I know exactly what I can modify to get my display to work
[20:52] <parco> I'm just making sure that is even possible, and it's not a big binary blob that includes other functionality
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[21:00] <danielboston26> hello
[21:00] <parco> the more i look into this the more i realize i'm not the first person to do this
[21:00] <parco> The Raspberry Pi Foundation really wants to make sure we buy "their" screen, ha?
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[21:01] <parco> When someone asked if it's open hardware: "Short answer - sort of, everything except the GPU. (don't ask)"
[21:01] <danielboston26> parco i would
[21:01] <parco> Why is the GPU not open source?
[21:01] <danielboston26> parco because its a broadcom chip
[21:02] <danielboston26> everything broadcom does is closed source
[21:03] <danielboston26> if you want to get the code you need to become a broadcom developer
[21:03] <danielboston26> this costs a lot of money
[21:04] <parco> I want to use a custom MIPI display, that is all
[21:04] <danielboston26> well that is why you can't
[21:04] <parco> Does that mean the entire kernel is closed source?
[21:04] <danielboston26> no
[21:04] <danielboston26> just the gpu
[21:04] <danielboston26> everything else is documented
[21:05] <parco> Why couldn't a thin layer be built atop the broadcom driver, so that we can use custom MIPI?
[21:05] <danielboston26> because broadcom are nazi's
[21:05] <danielboston26> they want you to pay to access their code
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[21:06] <parco> I'm referring to whoever pays the money, could they abstract away the broadcom legally, and let us non-payers use custom MIPI?
[21:07] <parco> This is just for the GPU aspect, btw
[21:07] <BCMM> parco: people run open source software on proprietary hardware all the time
[21:07] <parco> Right, so how is this different?
[21:07] <BCMM> it does not make the whole kernel closed-source, any more than your Intel CPU does
[21:07] <danielboston26> you would have to read the broadcom license
[21:08] <danielboston26> as far as i can remember when i looked into it they do not offer any way to access anything they make
[21:08] <parco> which is fine, someone must have access though right, who is it?
[21:08] <parco> someone part of the raspi foundation, right?
[21:08] <danielboston26> correct
[21:09] <BCMM> parco: the raspberry pi is not an open-hardware platform. a lot of people seem upset by this, but it's no worse than any x86 machine
[21:09] <BCMM> (in that respect)
[21:09] <danielboston26> and their license says they cannot give out the code or any access to it
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[21:10] <parco> I would simply ask this GPU guru if he could abstract away the broadcom stuff, and give us a way to program our own MIPI
[21:10] <danielboston26> this was why a lot of linux boxes back in the day couldn't get online people had routers with broadcom chips and there was no driver unless they provided it
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[21:11] <parco> I'm thinking they lock it all down because they want to make some money on the displays? Am i wrong here?
[21:11] <danielboston26> parco probably not as this would not be allowed by the license but you can always ask im not a lawyer or knowledgable in this area just to know that they are idiots from what i read trying to get my linux box to connect to the internet
[21:11] <danielboston26> parco probably broadcom licensing issues is their excause
[21:11] <parco> I mean if they really wanted to, they could have left us a nice interface to define our own MIPI spec
[21:12] <BurtyB> parco, I imagine it's not worth the time it would take
[21:12] <parco> BurtyB: not worth the time to allow the worlds best selling computer to work with any display?
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[21:13] <danielboston26> also the license may not allow it(im not sure about this)
[21:13] <danielboston26> broadcom really really really wants you to pay them licensing fee's
[21:13] <BurtyB> parco, correct - I doub't they really care about it working with every display and nor do I
[21:14] <danielboston26> just get a regular old monitor with hdmi out
[21:14] <danielboston26> your done
[21:14] <parco> BurtyB: you must not be using it in mass produced embedded systems
[21:14] <parco> IoT is coming fellas, raspberry pi will be left in the dust if it can't interface with cell phone display
[21:15] <BurtyB> lol ok
[21:15] <BCMM> parco: what's IoT?
[21:15] <parco> Internet of Things
[21:15] <BCMM> parco: and what is that?
[21:15] <BurtyB> maybe you should go find a platform for your requirements rather than trying to use something that's mostly for education?
[21:15] <parco> screens on your toilet, screens on your fridge, screens on your toaster
[21:16] <BCMM> parco: it's marketing crap for "computers with internet connections"
[21:16] <BCMM> why are people so excited about this?
[21:16] <BurtyB> BCMM, brain washed
[21:16] <parco> You're a cherry bunch
[21:17] <BurtyB> hmm cherry pie
[21:17] <danielboston26> can i get a screen on my butt?
[21:17] <parco> you might want to wait for flexible displays to get a little better
[21:17] <danielboston26> i want it to say wide load
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[21:19] <red9> Entry permission .... *granted* ;-)
[21:19] <red9> anyway..
[21:21] <red9> parco, So you have a displays that uses MIPI interface. And want to use it with the Pi, which offers DSI and HDMI. Right?
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[21:21] <danielboston26> red9 correct
[21:22] <danielboston26> he wants to make a screen that fits on my butt
[21:22] <danielboston26> im excited
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[21:22] <red9> Because regardless how closed broadcrap is. That screen still has to connect somewhere.
[21:23] <danielboston26> red9 you would be violating broadcom's license if you tried to mess around
[21:23] <red9> And signaling and timing is usually fixed in chips (ASIC). Other GPIO is likely too slow for your demands?
[21:24] <danielboston26> and they have guys with big muscles and sticks
[21:24] <red9> danielboston26, What would be their legal ground?
[21:25] <danielboston26> well again im not a lawyer but it seems to me if a chip is closed source that would mean hey pay us money to mess around with it
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[21:25] <red9> btw, sometimes companies don't want to go open source/documented because they have actually stolen someone elses intellectual property or is close. So it's a way to shield themselves from this.
[21:25] <danielboston26> barring they paying money part i think they would be a bit upset
[21:26] <red9> Being upset has no legal basis..
[21:26] <danielboston26> no but the men with sticks don't care
[21:27] <danielboston26> its the way broadcom has always been
[21:27] <red9> So the first step would be as a mentioned to check voltage ranges (probably ok), signaling methods (TMDS etc), and PLL clocks + start/stop etc. If those things are compatible. Then there is usually a way to make the hw to make use of it.
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[21:30] <red9> Other approaches is to use any GPIO port (slow), conversion using FPGA/chips etc (cost), or perhaps find another ARM board with a ARM Cortex-A processor and a openly documented graphics part.
[21:31] <red9> Beware of the Mali chips however. They are worse than Broadcom..
[21:32] <red9> (or maybe some driver has been released like Nvidia vs Nouveau)
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[22:09] <danielboston26> well that was an adventure
[22:09] <danielboston26> trying to get my ipad to ssh into my raspberry pi and it turned out i had to tell this program that i use a key passphrase
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[22:13] <parco> Sorry back, crappy wifi
[22:14] <parco> going through the logs to see what I missed...
[22:15] <danielboston26> parco just a heads up you might want to hide your hostname
[22:15] <danielboston26> i could ddos you right now :P
[22:16] <parco> danielboston26: try me
[22:17] <parco> red9: I'm confident my display is MIPI, so I can be certain the voltage ranges and anything in the physical layer is correct.
[22:18] <Lartza> danielboston26, Hopefully you are using a VPN or Tor
[22:18] <parco> I'm working with the display manufacturer to give me all the protocol the display supports, setup sequences, resolution, framerate, etc
[22:18] <parco> Now it's just on the driving side... the raspberry pi... i need to wrap my head around
[22:19] <danielboston26> lartza no but i mask myself don't need to be giving out my ip to everyone in the universe when i log into irc
[22:19] <Lartza> Doesn't really matter if you do though
[22:19] <danielboston26> true
[22:19] <Lartza> And I guess masking is a fair term, my point was really that cloaks aren't hiding really that much more
[22:20] <danielboston26> but why leave your door wide open when you can buy a five dollar lock?
[22:20] <Lartza> Not really a good analogy imo, effort? Care?
[22:20] <Lartza> Not having anything worth stealing?
[22:21] <danielboston26> keeps the dumb people away thats all i care about
[22:21] <danielboston26> if someone really wanted to hack me not much i could do about it
[22:21] <Lartza> Nobody cares
[22:21] <Lartza> (to hack you)
[22:21] <Lartza> or to ddos you
[22:21] <danielboston26> Lartza thats the sad thing some do
[22:21] <Lartza> They really don't
[22:21] <Lartza> Otherwise IRC networks would default to cloaks
[22:21] <parco> Is there another channel where lower level raspi dudes hang out?
[22:22] <Lartza> There is really no harm in not cloaking your IP
[22:22] <danielboston26> Lartza thats why i started hiding myself i had an idiot who thought it was funny to dox me
[22:22] <parco> i feel i'm cluttering the channel
[22:22] <danielboston26> parco haha no dude
[22:22] <Lartza> parco, We are the off-topic ones :P
[22:22] <danielboston26> :P
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[22:23] <Lartza> I am not aware of another channel for your scenario, it's just a late hour and weekend
[22:23] <parco> gotcha
[22:23] <H__> parco: what's your project again ?
[22:23] <Lartza> You can always /msg ALIS LIST <searchterm> though :)
[22:24] <danielboston26> true but again why broadcast something
[22:24] <parco> H__: it's a little embedded system that controls a few motors, but has a display screen where i'd like to run android
[22:24] <Lartza> danielboston26, Because nobody cares :P
[22:25] <parco> H__: AndroidThings ideally, if I can somehow get the bootup time to <15 seconds
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[22:25] <danielboston26> one sad moron cared
[22:25] <H__> ok nice project
[22:25] <danielboston26> if theres one theres more
[22:25] <danielboston26> you can run android on a pi?
[22:25] <danielboston26> i guess
[22:25] <Lartza> You can, it costs
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[22:25] <parco> Lartza: costs?
[22:25] <Lartza> parco, Yes?
[22:25] <parco> How so?
[22:26] <Lartza> Because the makers ask for a payment?
[22:26] <danielboston26> who? google?
[22:26] <danielboston26> android is free
[22:26] <parco> I haven't come across that yet oO
[22:27] <Lartza> parco, This? https://emteria.com/#pricing
[22:27] <Lartza> oh android things, hmm
[22:28] <parco> Lartza: https://partner.android.com/things/console/u/0/?pli=1
[22:28] <parco> I am curious as to the OTA updates, as much as I love google, i can't see them hosting all that for free
[22:29] <parco> at least not forever
[22:29] <Lartza> Why not?
[22:29] <danielboston26> google gets bored easily
[22:29] <parco> Lartza: They charge for similar services elsewhere, like Google Cloud
[22:29] <gordonDrogon> as long as google can use their android platform to sell adverts then they'll provide it.
[22:29] <Lartza> google cloud is totally different than OS updates
[22:30] <Lartza> Storage is cheap and bandwidth utilization for OTA updates isn't constant
[22:30] <parco> sure, you're right
[22:30] <Lartza> Just to be clear, you don't want to run Android stuff on your Pi?
[22:30] <Lartza> Because that's not really what Android Things does it seems
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[22:30] <parco> Maybe you should take a longer look at it :)
[22:30] <Lartza> Not really
[22:31] <Lartza> You can't get to google play with it and install apk's afaict
[22:31] <Lartza> Like apk's made for phones and tablets
[22:31] <shauno> things is to android as iot core is to windows
[22:31] <Lartza> Yeah exactly
[22:31] <Lartza> So no android apps
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[22:33] <parco> its literally android guys, with some libs removed
[22:33] <parco> haha
[22:34] <parco> I could log someone into Firebase if I wanted to
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[22:34] <Lartza> parco, Soo.... it's like iot core? :P
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[22:35] <parco> Not sure, but saying "no android apps" is not correct
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[22:35] <Lartza> "The Android Things platform is also streamlined for single application use. System apps are not present, and your app is launched automatically on startup to immerse your users in the app experience."
[22:35] <shauno> can I go get Angry Birds from the play store and play it?
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[22:35] <Lartza> ^
[22:35] <parco> oh does it have a marketplace app? No it does not
[22:36] <Lartza> Can you sideload the angry birds apk and play it?
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[22:36] <parco> Yes essentially
[22:36] <Lartza> I'm fairly certain you can't...
[22:36] <parco> sorry I don't have the time to explain it
[22:37] <Lartza> Thus why I was checking, do you want Android or Android Things
[22:37] <Lartza> If you want to just run your servo control software and nothing else you are good to go, otherwise you don't want Android Things
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[22:38] <gordonDrogon> parco, why run android though? You might find more support/easier to do if you run Raspbian directly.
[22:38] <Lartza> or heck, even iot core really :S if it's just for single use like that
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[22:41] <fooman2011> Hello. I would like to use omxplayer to play video file from http stream. I'm trying like this: omxplayer -o hdmi --live http://localhost:23456 The begining of the video is played but then it's stopped. Omxplayer doesn't request the other part of the video. Could you please tell me where I can find help about this ?
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[22:48] <parco> gordonDrogon: I'm open to anything
[22:48] <parco> it just needs to boot in <15 seconds
[22:48] <gordonDrogon> parco, biggest issue is a small screen.
[22:49] <gordonDrogon> you can boot Linux into a single application in under 2 seconds, but you don't get any network/filesystem/usb with that.
[22:50] <parco> gordonDrogon: what would the GUI be?
[22:50] <gordonDrogon> none at that point.
[22:50] <gordonDrogon> but if your application did direct console access then it's there right away.
[22:50] <gordonDrogon> e.g. open /dev/fb0 and poke pixels at it.
[22:51] <parco> Interesting, let me take a sec to digest
[22:52] <gordonDrogon> so if you want to control a servo, you can do that with an arduino type device - but what else do you need?
[22:54] <parco> gordonDrogon: this still includes the Rpi right? For running the linux distro
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[23:46] <GrandPa-G> I know this is probably not the correct place to ask, but maybe someone can tell me where to go (My boss does all the time). Trying to ping pi from windows 7 using pi host name. 2 of the 3 windows 7 machines it works, one doesn't. Trying to understand what is missing on #3.
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[23:56] <leftyfb> GrandPa-G: #3 probably doesn't have the same DNS settings
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