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IRC Log for 2018-05-02

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[16:04] * Topic is 'Unofficial RaspberryPi IRC channel but "Blessed" by the Foundation as the ONE channel. | Logs: http://srv.datagutt1.com | Rules: https://goo.gl/h5qPhz'
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[16:07] <shiftplusone> you can add it
[16:07] <shiftplusone> or use ~/.asoundrc ... I think they're equivalent
[16:07] <shiftplusone> in fact, you probably should use the latter, since it may override changes you make in /etc
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[17:26] <davr0s> does the pi-zero-not-W have the same USB gadget ability as the pi0W
[17:27] <BurtyB> yes
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[18:17] <nicomachus> trying this again because there seems to be more active people at this time of day:
[18:18] <nicomachus> hi all. I have a raspberry pi 3b running a modified version of Stretch (OSMC), and I'm having some trouble getting a program called librespot to output to the correct alsa device. It will ONLY output to HDMI, not the 3.5mm aux output.
[18:18] <nicomachus> Kodi will output to either device just fine. but with librespot, if I set the --device flag to hw:0,1 it will output through HDMI. if I set it to hw:0,0 it will output to... HDMI.
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[18:19] <Kryczek> nicomachus: isn't there a /boot/config.txt or raspi-config option to say which of HDMI or 3.5mm or both ouput sound?
[18:19] <shiftplusone> and if you run amixer cset numid=3 1 ?
[18:19] <shiftplusone> it's an alsa thing, not a config.txt thing
[18:20] <shiftplusone> I'm not sure if the '1' is correct in that command, so try 0-3
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[18:20] <nicomachus> but it's not a systemwide config issue, because Kodi will output to 3.5mm
[18:20] <shiftplusone> may be worth seeing what aplay does as well, to rule out librespot being strange
[18:20] <nicomachus> at least I don't think
[18:21] <shiftplusone> I think kodi talks directly to the hardware
[18:21] <shiftplusone> like omxplayer rather than going through alsa
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[18:23] <nicomachus> interesting
[18:24] <nicomachus> aplay lists both devices but they have the same driver afaict
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[18:25] <shiftplusone> yes
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[18:25] <nicomachus> I did change /boot/config.txt based on another suggestion but it didn't have any effect. I added the line "hdmi_ignore_edid_audio=1", but it doesn't seem to have any noticeable effect.
[18:25] <shiftplusone> it's both the same 'card', just with 2 devices.
[18:25] <nicomachus> ah.
[18:26] * nicomachus notes another reason to justify a hifiberry purchase
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[18:59] <red9> The installer will not have any defined download site. And thus will let you select one.
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[19:06] <PhazonicRidley> hello, i would like to use ubuntu mate arm for my raspberry pi 3B+ but on boot i get the rainbow screen and then it freezes does anyone have a fix?
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[19:12] <ebarch> PhazonicRidley: unfortunately, quite a few distros haven't been updated with the firmware required for the 3B+. you could try flashing the OS as usual and then manually replacing the firmware in the boot partition (the partition that shows up on windows/linux/mac) with the latest firmware from here https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware
[19:12] <ebarch> (specifically the boot dir)
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[19:21] <PhazonicRidley> ok i will try that, ebarch
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[20:48] <PhazonicRidley> it worked thank you so much, ebarch!
[20:48] <ebarch> awesome. no prob =)
[20:49] <PhazonicRidley> but now my mouse and keyboard dont want to work
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[20:53] <PhazonicRidley> ok, just tried my keyboard and mouse with my computer, they work fine
[20:54] <PhazonicRidley> not sure why it doesnt want to work with the my pi
[20:54] <PhazonicRidley> it was working fine yesterday
[20:54] <ebarch> hmm. were you using a different distro then?
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[21:04] <PhazonicRidley> yes, i was using arch arm
[21:04] <PhazonicRidley> then it broke
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[21:05] <PhazonicRidley> im downloading raspbain to make sure it is not the pi
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[21:37] <prillian5> I have formated sd card with fat32 and copied NOOB-Datas to it. But if I insert the sd-card into raspberryPI, the yellow light not flash on bootup... and nothing happend
[21:37] <prillian5> With another card (other raspberryPI installation) it works well.
[21:38] <prillian5> Have I to set some kind of bootflag or something else?
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[21:41] <PhazonicRidley> ok raspbain works
[21:42] <PhazonicRidley> i have no idea why it wasnt working on ubuntu mate
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[21:51] <davr0s> just messing with GPIO for the first time.. I got these pi's intending to do stereo cameras etc but they've been sat idle for a while
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[21:52] <davr0s> finally got round to getting some wires, push switch, managed to get one switch triggering 2 pis.. however lots of tape was involveed and this isn't a practical setup
[21:52] <davr0s> i'm going to need a 'case' and probably some better wiring..
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[21:54] <davr0s> lots of fun though
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[21:55] <PhazonicRidley> cool
[21:55] <PhazonicRidley> i havent my gpio
[21:55] <PhazonicRidley> im just going to use mine as a server
[21:56] <davr0s> i'm sure there'd be a wireless way to do what i wanted (i read you can setup a pi as a wireless hotspot etc) .. but I figured i'll get more value out of these things by actually dabbling with the GPIO
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[22:22] <davr0s> awesome, testing taking pictures of video on a screen.. the two cameras seem pretty well synced too, which is what i'm after
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[22:26] <davr0s> thats two 'new uses' for the pi's today (also discovered wacom tablets do actually work with them)
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[22:27] <davr0s> seemed to be having problems (i'm assuming with power?) trying to use one as a NAS box though (i.e. pi+USB hard-drive - it wouldn't power it up..)
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[23:03] <PhazonicRidley> ok i cant get ubuntu mate to work on rpi3B+, it boots but i can use my keyboard or mouse
[23:04] <PhazonicRidley> does anyone know y?
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[23:15] <gordonDrogon> PhazonicRidley, who knows - the main issue is that you're in the 0.00001% of users who don't run Raspbian on their Pi's, so support is going to be hard to come by.
[23:15] <gordonDrogon> however have you tried Raspbian - of nothing else just to make sure the mouse/keyboard actually work OK on the Pi.
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[23:22] <PhazonicRidley> i would use raspbain but, python and other dependences are very hard to come by with out compiling
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[23:23] <zleap> PhazonicRidley: Rasbian comes with python
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[23:27] <PhazonicRidley> *python3.6
[23:27] <PhazonicRidley> debian comes with old packages soooooo
[23:28] <ebarch> hmm, what do you need from 3.6 that's not in 3.5?
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[23:36] <JackMa> hello i want to use lxml of python3 at raspbian, but i can’t install lxml library
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[23:37] <BurtyB> JackMa, "sudo apt-get install python3-lxml" doesn't work?
[23:37] <JackMa> i did it with ‘pip3 install lxml'
[23:37] <JackMa> BurtyB:
[23:38] <JackMa> i can’t use pip3 command?
[23:38] <BurtyB> if you can use apt I'm not sure why you would?
[23:38] <ebarch> PhazonicRidley: raspbian does ship with python 3.5.3 FYI. dunno if you need something specific to 3.6, though
[23:39] <JackMa> because i did it without sudo?
[23:39] <zleap> you should be able to sudo pip, is there a pip3 or isit just pip
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[23:40] <akk> Just so you know, sudo pip is frowned on by the python community, though nobody seems to be able to come up with a good argument why.
[23:41] <JackMa> BurtyB: zleap i did it with sudo apt-get install python3-lxml
[23:41] <akk> Without sudo, you pretty much have to use a virtualenv which is much more complicated.
[23:41] <ebarch> akk: typically because you're installing it globally. the recommended approach is usually virtualenv so you install whatever version you need
[23:41] <ebarch> ah, beat me to it :P
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[23:41] <ebarch> (whatever version you need for your project)
[23:41] <JackMa> thanks every body
[23:41] <JackMa> :)
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[23:42] <ebarch> i wouldn't say it's all that complicated, though. just a few extra things to learn
[23:42] <ebarch> but once you do, well worth it
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[23:43] <Habbie> please do not sudo pip
[23:43] <Habbie> ever
[23:43] <Habbie> oh akk also said that
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[23:43] <Habbie> the argument is that you install things globally outside of apt
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[23:47] <akk> The problem is, a virtualenv takes some setup that isn't obvious or well documented, so sudo pip is SO much easier.
[23:47] <akk> That's what everyone ends up doing (and then they go to #python and get chewed out for it. :)
[23:48] <ebarch> it is easier. but c'mon. virtualenv isn't that bad. and there are plenty of great articles like http://www.pythonforbeginners.com/basics/how-to-use-python-virtualenv on how to use it :P
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[23:59] <akk> Most of the articles I found on virtualenv didn't mention how to include distro packages (--system-site-packages), or being able to use both python2 and python3.

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