#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2018-05-04

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[0:01] <wondiws> is there a way to just output a PWM signal with raspi-gpio? I can put the pin in question in alt-5, for PWM, but how do I enter a frequency?
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[0:10] <programmerq> Li▸ you'd need to convert the voltages: https://www.sparkfun.com/tutorials/215
[0:11] <cybr1d> aye aye captain
[0:11] <cybr1d> oops wrong room
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[0:11] <milpool> haha
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[0:14] <wondiws> larsks, I will look into that: zmodem in screen
[0:15] <wondiws> I usually use it in minicom, but that is for serial connections only
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[0:24] <rwb> Trying to understand i2c, I have 2 hats stacked. PiJuice, and Sense Hat. when I run i2cdetect, I see just numbers where the UU's were when I didn't stack them. the PiJuice is at 68, and the sense is at 46.
[0:25] <wondiws> rwb, that sounds about right
[0:25] <rwb> When I don't stack them, I can run the sense hat python scripts fine,
[0:25] <wondiws> rwb, what does UU stand for?
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[0:25] <rwb> I don't know.
[0:25] <wondiws> rwb, what is it then? 8)
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[0:26] <rwb> when I stack them, I get error on the sense hat scripts. "Cannot detect RPI-sense"
[0:26] <ebarch> wondiws: https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/7742/what-does-uu-mean-for-rasclock
[0:26] <ebarch> or maybe rwb :P
[0:27] <rwb> How can I get the sense hat to work?
[0:27] <wondiws> ebarch, rwb oh, UU is just there's nothing at that slot?
[0:27] <wondiws> rwb, so then it's not about right
[0:27] <ebarch> it actually looks like the address is already in use
[0:28] <wondiws> ebarch, but that cannot be, as they are both on different addresses
[0:28] <rwb> all the led's are lit up, but I get python errors, 'Cannot detect %s device %s self.SENSE_HAT_FB_NAME' Ahh. Not sure what I'm doing.
[0:28] <rwb> w/o the pi juice stacked under it, it works fine.
[0:28] <wondiws> rwb, oh, wait, you do get 68 and 46 when you do i2cdetect?
[0:29] <ebarch> from https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=141645 ...
[0:29] <rwb> yes. where the UU's were when not stacked...
[0:29] <ebarch> "HATS have to have an EEPROM that automatically configures them. That mechanism does not support stacking and will just fail if you try it. "
[0:29] <rwb> Ahh, why the stacking header then? There must be a way right?
[0:29] <ebarch> "Hats, by specification, are NOT designed to stack."
[0:30] <ebarch> hmm, if they are official RPi hats, I'm not sure if it's possible
[0:30] <ebarch> "If your cards don't have the EEPROM (and therefore can't call themselves a HAT) and you configure them manually, then you may be able to stack them."
[0:30] <rwb> OK, so you can always only have 1 HAT device on a pi and thats it? Nothing else? I'm reading that it can be done, but cannot find a way.
[0:30] <rwb> they do have eeproms.
[0:30] <ebarch> if it's an EEPROM, then yes (it seems)
[0:31] <ebarch> if it's just using GPIO then you could use multiple
[0:31] <ebarch> but both will stomp on each other since they use the same EEPROM address
[0:31] <rwb> do I need to flash my hats?
[0:32] <rwb> Do I need to re-program my hats eeproms?
[0:32] <ebarch> i don't think that would help, since the RPi firmware expects one address
[0:32] <ebarch> it might not be possible
[0:33] <rwb> Here are the specs for both the hats. they seem to say that its possible, but I don't know where to start. https://pinout.xyz/pinout/sense_hat# https://github.com/PiSupply/PiJuice/tree/master/Hardware
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[0:35] <ebarch> rwb: check out https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=126079
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[0:49] <rwb> ebarch: Thanks for the links. After a quick read, this is where I'm falling down "If you do buy genuine HATs, then you may be able to manually configure the cards instead of the automatic mechanism, but it'll be a little more involved." How do I manually configure the hats?
[0:51] <rwb> I guess I need to reprogram the eeproms and flash them? If I do that, with the RPi itself freak out?
[0:53] <ebarch> rwb: i've never done it, so I can't offer too much advice. but from that post, you'll want to add force_eeprom_read=0 to your config.txt. that will disable EEPROM enumeration. that means the EEPROM conflict is no longer an issue. but now you'll be responsible for loading the corresponding device tree for each HAT
[0:54] <rwb> Thanks! I think I have something I can go by for a while :)
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[0:58] <ebarch> wish i could be more help. would love to hear what you learn!
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[1:01] <rwb> Once I get this together, I'll do a writeup. Thanks
[1:01] <ebarch> =)
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[1:28] <Li> so what is the relation between console=ttyS0 within /boot/cmdline.txt (rPi side) and screen command reading /dev/ttyUSB0
[1:28] <Li> from the PC side
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[1:35] <mlelstv> a cable and a USB/Serial converter ?
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[5:27] <kzisme> is there a good way to see what is taking up all the disk space on my pi?
[5:27] <kzisme> I barely have anything installed on it
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[5:42] <HrdwrBoB> kzisme: df -js /*
[5:42] <HrdwrBoB> and go from there
[5:42] <HrdwrBoB> df -hs even
[5:43] <kzisme> OK I see
[5:43] <kzisme> one moment
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[5:43] <kzisme> HrdwrBoB: https://pastebin.com/D907tNcq
[5:44] <kzisme> So I tried running the rasp-config expand filesystem and it failed
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[5:44] <kzisme> I just am getting out of storage errors for things on /dev/mmcblk0p2
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[5:47] <HrdwrBoB> 2.7gb?
[5:47] <HrdwrBoB> that is very small
[5:47] <kzisme> I'm not sure why its like that
[5:48] <HrdwrBoB> something is weird
[5:48] <kzisme> It's a 32GB card
[5:48] <kzisme> :/
[5:48] <kzisme> any ideas on how to fix?
[5:52] <HrdwrBoB> how did the expand fs fail
[5:53] <kzisme> HrdwrBoB: https://pastebin.com/ZN74gA4p
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[5:56] <HrdwrBoB> oh
[5:56] <HrdwrBoB> that's a fail because you ran out of space
[5:56] <HrdwrBoB> run partprobe /dev/mmcblk0p2
[5:57] <HrdwrBoB> then resize2fs /dev/mmcblk0p2
[5:57] <HrdwrBoB> failing that, reboot and run the resize2fs
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[6:00] <kzisme> HrdwrBoB: -bash: partprobe: command not found
[6:00] <kzisme> Odd
[6:01] <kzisme> Must I install something
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[6:07] <kzisme> HrdwrBoB: It's it installed by default?
[6:08] <kzisme> welp pi@piaware:/$ sudo partprobe /dev/mmcblk0p2
[6:08] <kzisme> pi@piaware:/$ sudo resize2fs /dev/mmcblk0p2
[6:08] <kzisme> resize2fs 1.43.3 (04-Sep-2016)
[6:08] <kzisme> The filesystem is already 716800 (4k) blocks long. Nothing to do!
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[6:15] <HrdwrBoB> yeah
[6:15] <HrdwrBoB> reboot
[6:21] <kzisme> god it
[6:21] <kzisme> got it
[6:21] <kzisme> thank you?
[6:21] <kzisme> https://imgur.com/a/uGNfxY4
[6:22] <kzisme> Got it working now :D
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[9:41] <Li> can anyone tell, how to connect and read data from RS232 port of PLC from raspberry pi 3?
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[9:56] <davr0s> minor dilemna
[9:57] <davr0s> one big interst in the pi is for multiple cameras, but there's a cheapo action camera on sale locally, which seems to do 1080p 60fps
[9:58] <davr0s> the appeal of the pi though is multiple uses, and even in the camera scenario there's conveniences like synchronization or the ability to manage what its doing better
[9:59] <Li> davr0s: what is the brand/model of that mentioned camera? available on Amazon?
[9:59] <Li> why don't you buy it and use with rPi?
[9:59] <davr0s> currently have 2 of the actioncams and 3pi 0 , 2pi2, 2pi3; 6 pi-zero-cams
[9:59] <davr0s> Li so that answer is 'both' :) and i think i'll end up doing that
[10:00] <Li> actioncams?
[10:00] <Li> goPro alike you mean?
[10:00] <davr0s> right now the itch is to just bring the total pi count up to 8 (4pi0)
[10:00] <davr0s> Li yes go-pro clone
[10:01] <Li> cloning is good, god bless china
[10:01] <Li> lol
[10:01] <davr0s> the goal was to improvize panoramic recording for bike rides
[10:01] <davr0s> absolutely
[10:01] <Li> davr0s: very interesting
[10:02] <davr0s> we can have both, cheap chinese clones and others doing cutting edge innovation
[10:02] <Li> can you share amazon links for the cheap camera? interested myself here
[10:02] <Li> although I believe most chinese products doesn't really match the specs
[10:03] <davr0s> anyway r.e. the pis, I did get as far as using gpio to sync them
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[10:03] <Li> they are full of crap when it comes to making packages ... they will write you anything you want
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[10:03] <davr0s> Li sure i dont expect the cheap clones to be top notch, but I've been happy with the camera i got so far
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[10:04] <davr0s> i'm probably fretting over nothing, its not like i can't afford both but.. I dont like to waste the worlds resources
[10:05] <davr0s> ending up with a big pile of half used junk etc
[10:07] <Smeef> I seem to be having problems getting NTSC/PAL output from a fresh copy of NOOBS 2.8, can anyone confirm that the hotkeys (1,2,3,4) to switch between video outputs work the same in the latest version of NOOBS?
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[11:12] <u-ou> what's the diff between the 3B and 3B+
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[11:14] <BurtyB> u-ou, see http://blog.pimoroni.com/introducing-the-raspberry-pi-3-b/ or similar
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[11:17] <u-ou> thanks
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[11:49] <andrei-n> Hello. Do you know whether it is possible to buy an electronic paper display? I'd like something not too small (on ebay I only see max 4.3 inch displays...). Thanks.
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[11:50] <MacGeek> waveshare offers up to 7.5"
[11:50] <MacGeek> others make larger ones still
[11:52] <MacGeek> https://www.waveshare.com/product/modules/oleds-lcds/e-paper/7.5inch-e-paper-hat.htm?___SID=U <-- monochrome
[11:52] <MacGeek> https://www.waveshare.com/product/modules/oleds-lcds/e-paper/7.5inch-e-paper-hat-b.htm?___SID=U <-- 3-color
[11:52] <MacGeek> https://www.waveshare.com/product/modules/oleds-lcds/e-paper/7.5inch-e-paper-hat-c.htm?___SID=U <-- another 3-color
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[11:59] <andrei-n> MacGeek, Thanks a lot.
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[13:06] <shiftplusone> Li: any luck?
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[13:47] <roxlu> hi! I want to compile some code that calls OMX_Init() but OMX_Init() returns OMX_ErrorHardware. I googled and I saw that I can change my memory split via raspi-config to 128, but that didn't do the trick. Someone around who had a similar issue?
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[13:51] <Alina-malina> is it a good practice to use old desktop ATX PSU as RPI3 power supply?
[13:51] <shiftplusone> roxlu: better off asking on the forum
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[13:55] <mfa298> Alina-malina: not sure I'd call it best practice, but several people seem to do that.
[13:55] <Alina-malina> well, i want to do that and connect to 4-5 rpis, but i am not sure if i really should do that
[13:56] <Alina-malina> or buy separate adapters per each
[13:56] <mfa298> AIUI you might need to add a reasonable load to 12V (and maybe 5V) to get a stable output (which then kills the efficiency)
[13:57] <mfa298> what's the best approach may depend on where the Pis are located. If there's some seperation (1m+) then seperate PSUs is probably easier and fewer potential problems.
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[14:06] <gartral> hey all, scam or doesn't know what they have? https://www.ebay.com/itm/Raspberry-Pi-3-Model-B-Quad-Core-1-2GHz-64bit-CPU-1GB-RAM-WiFi-Bluetooth-4-1/163031413731?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
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[14:13] <shiftplusone> gartral: how much is the postage?
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[14:14] <gartral> shiftplusone: free
[14:15] <shiftplusone> strange. The reviews don't seem to suggest it's an outright scam.
[14:15] <gartral> shiftplusone: it's almost certainly a scam, and if it is, PayPal will reimburse me and blacklist that seller
[14:16] <shiftplusone> ebay/paypal will tell you to try to go through the seller first
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[14:16] <shiftplusone> and they'll ask for it to be returned and you'll have to pay for postage...possibly
[14:17] <gartral> shiftplusone: that's illegal in my state, seller HAS to pay for return postage if they misrepresented the product
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[14:17] <shiftplusone> ah, alright
[14:18] <gartral> I buy shit off Ebay every 32nd of neverber I'm just looking for everyone elses thoughts on this
[14:18] <pksato> free international postage from USA?
[14:19] <shiftplusone> channel rules and all that
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[14:19] <gartral> pksato: not international,
[14:19] <gartral> no
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[14:26] <roxlu> shiftplusone: just found it, the reason was caused because I didn't call bcm_host_init(). (newb here) https://elinux.org/Raspberry_Pi_VideoCore_APIs
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[14:26] <shiftplusone> ah yeah, thats an important one
[14:27] <roxlu> hehe :) also I change my memory split to 128 / 256. I read online that that could be another reason. (but in this case it wasn't)
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[15:01] <Li> davr0s: hey shiftplusone .. yep it worked last night on the sdcard with old distro of ubuntu ... tried the same thing(s) on different sdcard but it's not working ... Not sure what the heck I'm doing wrong :))
[15:01] <Li> ofcourse you can see that I'm not the best techi person after yesterday's POWERLESS rPi
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[15:03] <shiftplusone> That was not a proud moment for anybody involved.
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[15:04] <Li> yep specially me
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[15:07] <Li> ok now it worked again ,, I don't know how did the enable_uart=1 vanished from config.txt even though I'm sure about adding it
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[15:08] <Li> PC usb ttl rPi accomblished now moving on rPi usb ttl/serial PLC
[15:09] <HrdwrBoB> https://i.imgur.com/8W20ed5.jpg
[15:09] <HrdwrBoB> huzzah, got both screens working in X
[15:09] <HrdwrBoB> SPI 128x96 RGB OLED
[15:09] <shiftplusone> nice
[15:10] <HrdwrBoB> now I need to hack the CAN module to do 3.3V so I can talk direct and add it to the harness
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[15:10] <HrdwrBoB> then... more wiring for the arduino, then more arduino code
[15:10] <HrdwrBoB> then.... lots more code.
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[15:34] <argoneus> hello
[15:34] <argoneus> I just got a MQ-9 gas sensor but I can't make sense of the outputs
[15:34] <argoneus> it says AD, D0, GND, VCC
[15:35] <argoneus> if it wasn't AD but A0 I'd imagine it's analog/digital output
[15:35] <argoneus> but it says AD and I have no idea what that is
[15:35] <argoneus> unless it's just a printing error
[15:35] <argoneus> https://hackster.imgix.net/uploads/image/file/149148/smoke-sensor-label.png?auto=compress%2Cformat&w=680&h=510&fit=max looks like this
[15:36] <argoneus> but I'm 100% sure it says AD and not A0... is this just a labelling mistake?
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[15:43] <red9> measure?
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[15:48] <red9> Wire up a digital oscilloscope to the AD + A0 connections. Then trigger the smoke alarm and record what the output signal(s) are.
[15:49] <shiftplusone> better yet, find the datasheet
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[15:53] <red9> I'll guess the datasheet is unavailable. Otherwise this question shouldn't be needed.
[15:54] <Alina-malina> mfa298, thanks for answer, it is goig to be located in box, i want to build a box with multiple rpis and dont want to use multiple adapters, want to make it minimal, i am not sure how to do that, so i thought PSU would be good idea to use
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[15:56] <shiftplusone> http://www.dx.com/p/fc-22-1-harmful-gas-detector-sensor-module-for-arduino-179225#overview https://www.mouser.co.uk/datasheet/2/418/NG_DS_FC22_A-1134547.pdf
[15:57] <shiftplusone> "With DO switch signal (TTL) output and AO analog signal output"
[15:58] <shiftplusone> "Analog output voltage: 0~5V, the higher concentration, the higher voltage"
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[15:59] <Apocx_> Alina-malina: If you have the $$$ for it, you can buy a PCB that will power 4 RPIs using a single adapter. It is $50 though so a tad pricey. http://www.bitscope.com/product/BB04/
[16:00] <Alina-malina> Apocx_, the thing is i want to connect an 3.5' HDD to it as well
[16:00] <Alina-malina> and i guess few fans too
[16:00] <Apocx_> Ah. Then PSU is probably your best bet
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[16:00] <Alina-malina> i am just worried it wont fry my rpis
[16:01] <Alina-malina> so i dont know
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[16:01] <Apocx_> Supply 5V to the Pi via the 5V pin on the molex connector
[16:02] <Apocx_> Should be OK, it is regulated AFAIK
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[16:04] <mfa298> Alina-malina: with fans and 3.5" HDD in a single case than an old ATX psu is potentially a reasonable way to go, with the fans and hdd you might get enough load to keep things stable.
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[16:06] <Apocx_> Yeah it depends on your particular PSU but it has been done before, many times.
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[16:09] <Alina-malina> ok thanks guys
[16:10] <Alina-malina> the next question will be if i will be able to split that 1TB HDD between 4 rpis and connect to it via GPIO pins
[16:11] <Apocx_> probably not
[16:11] <Apocx_> and it will have to be a USB HDD for even one Pi to use it, or you will need some kind of specialized adapter board
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[16:11] <Alina-malina> oh
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[16:14] <Apocx_> some quick googling found this: https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/sata-hard-drive-to-usb-adapter
[16:14] <Apocx_> I'm sure there are others
[16:16] <pksato> can be is possible if HD is a IDE and using PIO mode. At very low data speed. But, is more easy to use one of pi to share hdd .
[16:18] <Apocx_> Never knew this existed, kind of neat. http://wdlabs.wd.com/products/pidrive-node-zero/
[16:18] <Alina-malina> ye, but the problem appeared the connection to it phisically, because this thing has 2 usb cables, which need to be handled, for some reason i thought that pins would be ideal way of doing this, but now i am a little confused
[16:18] <Alina-malina> because i still want to feed power from PSU
[16:18] <Apocx_> Would be way more useful if it was a RPI3 Compute Module with an ethernet port though...
[16:19] <Alina-malina> to hdd and not occupy 2 USB ports
[16:19] <Apocx_> one of the USB is for power
[16:19] <Alina-malina> yes, and looks like i have to cut that one and wire to PSU
[16:19] <Alina-malina> i guess
[16:19] <Apocx_> you'd have to find one that doesn't occupy both the power and data connectors
[16:19] <pksato> some one done the inverse: This project aims to design and build a complete parallel ATA (PATA) IDE disk emulator from an inexpensive Raspberry Pi Zero.
[16:19] <shauno_> right. on a usb drive with a Y cable, one plug is for power only. figure out which, and power it the same as any other pi (rather than *from* the pi)
[16:20] <pksato> https://hackaday.io/project/20774-netpi-ide
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[16:21] <shauno_> and worth experimenting with; if you're using pi zeros (I assume from your lack of usb ports), the Y cable for a hdd will probably back-power the pi
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[16:22] <Apocx_> maybe something like this. kind of pricey. https://goo.gl/PRJWi6
[16:22] <Apocx_> can probably find a cheaper version
[16:22] <shiftplusone> I also knew somebody who was working on getting the pi talking to an IDE drive via SMI, but they gave up in the end.
[16:22] <Apocx_> Do they even make 1TB IDE drives
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[16:22] <shiftplusone> Not sure if it was because they ran out of time or if they found it wasn't possible.
[16:24] <pksato> https://github.com/fenlogic/IDE_trial
[16:25] <shiftplusone> that's the one
[16:25] <Apocx_> Why tho
[16:26] <shiftplusone> Fast storage without sacrificing USB bandwidth, I guess.
[16:26] <Apocx_> 44MB/s, not bad
[16:27] <Apocx_> not, you know, great. but not bad
[16:27] <spybert> Apocx_: You can buy 6Tb IDE drives
[16:27] <Apocx_> :O
[16:27] <Apocx_> interesting
[16:28] <Apocx_> I stopped using IDE drives like 8-10 years ago so I guess I just never noticed.
[16:28] <mfa298> Alina-malina: for the USB drives (like the WD Pi Drives) you may be able to using a standard microUSB cable to do data+power from the Pi, I ran a 1TB Pi Drive with a Pi3 for a while off a single PSU (5.1V, 2.5A eaither the Official Pi PSU or the WD Labs PSU)
[16:29] <Alina-malina> so i need like microUSB to SATA cable then?
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[16:29] <audiofile> hi, how can I start kodi's web server on a headless pi?
[16:30] <mfa298> but in general only connect a single HDD to a single computer and share over the network or you'll have many interesting issues.
[16:30] <audiofile> samba?
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[16:31] <Alina-malina> mfa298, yes i guess first i need to connect it to rpi, then think about sharing it
[16:31] <mfa298> a standard usb to sata adapter should work if it's a sata drive - the WD Pi drives just had a USB socket on them (like some of the other portable 2.5" HDDs)
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[16:32] <mfa298> for a 3.5" drive you'll generally have seperate power and data - so just power the drive from the ATX PSU as you would in a normal computer build. (3.5" drives usually need the 12V as well as 5V so can't be powered from usb alone)
[16:32] <red9> Use step-up smps :p
[16:33] <mumixam> anyone using a asus nano ac53 for wifi?
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[16:34] <mumixam> ive got it working with a opensource driver but i get connection drops if i push too much data over it
[16:34] <mumixam> and it doesnt resume working until i replug the usb or rmmod/modprobe the driver
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[16:47] <Apocx_> check dmesg and lsusb if you haven't already. could maybe try running it on a powered usb hub to see if it is a power issue (but I doubt it). if it is a driver issue then don't know what to tell ya, other than use a wifi adapter that is known to work and has supported drivers
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[18:55] <argoneus> is it possible to fry anything by accidentally swapping MISO/MOSI or such?
[18:59] <shiftplusone> If you connect two output while one is high and the other low, yeah.
[18:59] <shiftplusone> unless there's a resistor in between
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[19:26] <argoneus> shiftplusone: just to confirm if my logic is correct
[19:26] <argoneus> with SPI, if the spec says "digital out" on the pin
[19:26] <argoneus> I assume that's MISO?
[19:26] <argoneus> master in slave out
[19:26] <argoneus> on the raspi
[19:26] <argoneus> and digital in is MOSI
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[19:30] <tristero> probably, but the spec should have more info (like SPI clock speed, etc.), and depending on the part you can search for hookup instructions to double-check yourself
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[19:31] <fooman2011> Hello. I'm looking for help about omxplayer. I would like to play a stream using omxplayer. My problem is that whatever the used solution (http stream, fifo pipe, ...) omxplayer always exit when no data is available from the stream. Could you please tell me if there is a way to tell to omxplayer to block, waiting for more data, then resume ?
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[20:29] <davr0s> do they still make the 'pi-zero without wifi'
[20:30] <davr0s> it does suit some use-cases (e.g. using it driven by another master device)
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[20:33] <Apocx_> I don't know if they are still making them, but you can certainly still buy them
[20:33] <Apocx_> Just get the non W version
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[22:00] <NyB> Hi! I was wondering whether there is a case for the full-sized Pi 3 that contains an embedded speaker. I could not really find anything that was not completely DIY...
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[22:02] <NyB> the closest I could get are some plastic replacements for the Google AIY voice kie, but those are for the Pi zero...
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[22:08] <HighInBC> interesting idea
[22:08] <HighInBC> it has probably not been done because the pi does not have great sound
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[22:16] <NyB> HighInBC: I would not mind something with a DAC/amplifier, tbh. And another alternative I'm looking at is USB-powered speakers...
[22:17] <HighInBC> adding a dac improves things
[22:17] <HighInBC> the best sound source is the hdmi port really
[22:17] <HighInBC> usb is a good way to go
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[22:17] <HighInBC> pity the USB ports don't have breakout pins
[22:18] <HighInBC> especially since the new pi 3 has extra usb ports not broken out at all
[22:18] <NyB> the funny part is, I found something that would have been ideal in the USB speaker area, but the company making them seems to have disappeared: https://www.amazon.com/Boynq-CUBITEBK-Cubite-Speaker-Black/dp/B000W9LWVK
[22:19] <NyB> HighInBC: I'm *this* close to asking a friend of mine about 3D-printing a case - the electronics I can probably figure out...
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[22:20] <HighInBC> something like this: https://www.amazon.ca/StarTech-com-Adapter-External-Digital-ICUSBAUDIO2D/dp/B00F7120TQ with the right case perhaps
[22:20] <HighInBC> probably something cheaper
[22:20] <HighInBC> needs a built in amp
[22:21] <HighInBC> the line level will be far too quiet with speakers
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[22:21] <NyB> HighInBC: was thinking something along the lines of https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Interface-I2S-PCM5102-DAC-Decoder-GY-PCM5102-I2S-Player-Module-For-Raspberry-Pi-pHAT-Format-Board/32826879559.html
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[22:22] <NyB> with a resistor network to mix the two channels and a mono amplifier...
[22:22] <HighInBC> ahh I2s
[22:22] <HighInBC> that is probably a better way to go
[22:23] <HighInBC> still probably needs and amp
[22:23] <NyB> I was kinda surprised that I could not find anything ready-made... the RPi sounds like a perfect candidate for Echo/Google Home clones
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[23:21] <Trel> Oooh, did the RPi team ever give an ETA on the PoE Hat?
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