#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2018-06-12

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[0:00] <stoner19> anyone purchased from arrow.com before? They seem to have a pretty good deal for some things.
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[1:24] <Hdale85> stoner19: i have, just got my order today
[1:24] <Hdale85> they have a deal if you spend 50 bucks you get a free raspberry pi 3 B+
[1:24] <stoner19> awesome
[1:24] <Hdale85> so I got 2 3 B+'s lol
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[1:25] <stoner19> yep, that is why I am looking at buying from them.
[1:26] <Hdale85> also they do free overnight shipping
[1:26] <Hdale85> on all orders
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[2:08] <mattwj2002> hey all
[2:08] <mattwj2002> :)
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[2:30] <Voop> totally related to raspberry pi's
[2:30] <Voop> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjmTXxNuH1M
[2:31] <Voop> (trump kim summit live feed)
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[2:35] <Voop> handshake should be in 30 minutes or so
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[3:04] <uriah> Voop: probably better without the commentary (see time’s live feed on YouTube)
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[4:01] <swift110> hey akk
[4:01] <swift110> hey all
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[5:40] <shbrngdo> Devuan 2.0 is out, and I understand there's an RPi image. https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/06/12/devuan_ascii_stable_ships/
[5:40] <shbrngdo> I'm gonna have to try it out
[5:41] <shbrngdo> the Raspberry Pi Foundation needs to acknowledge Devuan. Just sayin'
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[5:46] <Voop> what is devuan shbrngdo
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[5:46] <shbrngdo> it's a fork of Debian that has NO SYSTEMD IN IT
[5:47] <shbrngdo> https://devuan.org/
[5:49] <uriah> hurray!
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[5:52] <shbrngdo> DL'ing rpi2 'armhf' image at the moment. I've got a spare SD to try it with
[5:53] <shbrngdo> looks like they have an arm64 version for RPi 3
[5:56] <Voop> what is systemd and why should i hate it
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[6:03] <swift110> hey all
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[6:04] <uriah> Voop: systemd is a Linux software bundling up a bootloader, an init system, a device manager, a time synchronization tool, and many more things which should remain separate from each other
[6:04] <uriah> afaik
[6:05] <uriah> does it include a web browser yet/nowadays? ;)
[6:06] <uriah> now *that* would be great... just boot and most of your memory is allocated already
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[6:06] <uriah> sorry just had to:)
[6:07] <Voop> alright i hate it
[6:07] <Voop> i bet the alternative causes just as many problems though
[6:10] <uriah> lol
[6:10] <uriah> alternatives*
[6:11] <uriah> which may probably only reliably be openrc and runit now
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[6:12] <uriah> o I'm wrong
[6:13] <uriah> devuan mentions 5 alternatives
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[7:57] <ccatss> I have a pretty straightforward project in mind that requires quite a few connections/wires, not quite sure if I'm over complicating it...
[7:57] <Voop> lets see it
[7:58] <ccatss> Hoping to control 7 ARM-based modules, each with a power and reset pin, and RX/TX for serial ports
[7:58] <ccatss> I have an 8:1 serial port multiplexer from Atlas Scientific to handle serial connections
[7:58] <ccatss> And I think an opto isolator is the way to go for controlling power/reset
[7:58] <ccatss> but that's 4 connections per module, with 7 in a Mini ITX form factor...
[7:58] <ccatss> Plus ground, which I assume they're all a common ground
[7:59] <ccatss> I'm not looking forward to connecting up all of that to a Pi to control, though I did find an I2C based... not sure what the name is, some chip that lets you have 14 inputs/outputs via a couple I2C
[8:00] <ccatss> So tl;dr is that I need a better way to combine this all without a bunch of wires going back to the single pi :P
[8:01] <Voop> never had this problem i just connect bunches of things to the pi
[8:01] <Voop> but i assume theres many boards for this sort of thing
[8:01] <ccatss> Yeah, probably
[8:02] <ccatss> But not 7 separate modules unfortunately :P
[8:02] <ccatss> Originally I was going to bring it all back through to a single board, but I think I could use a 2 channel opto inlined with each connector and save a few wires
[8:02] <Voop> what are these arm based modules doing
[8:02] <ccatss> They're pretty much a raspberry pi (quad core A53, 2GB DDR3) in a SODIMM form factor
[8:02] <ccatss> So they have power, reset, and serial
[8:02] <Voop> why
[8:02] <ccatss> Headless compute cluster :D
[8:03] <ccatss> 7 of them in a single Mini ITX board with a built-in gigabit switch
[8:03] <Voop> why not just stack pi's
[8:03] <ccatss> I still want to use a pi to create an IPMI/ILO system
[8:03] <ccatss> That's not exactly an answer, though
[8:03] <ccatss> Since if I stacked pis I'd still have the same issue getting console/power/reset
[8:03] <Voop> i dont have an answer tbh this is above my pay grade
[8:04] <ccatss> Thanks for listening to the very long idea and scheme though :D
[8:04] <ccatss> It's quite an interesting "problem", or maybe just an idea
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[8:05] <ccatss> I'm sure someone has done it, it's pretty much the same as controlling power to a few computers from a pi
[8:05] <Voop> im pretty good at wiring things i just dont know what those particular things do / how they interface
[8:05] <Voop> so i cant help
[8:05] <ccatss> heh
[8:05] <ccatss> it's totally possible to do it one by one
[8:06] <ccatss> The problem is that I want to polish it in the end to make it less of a prototype and fit the form factor of it, which makes it complicated
[8:08] <ccatss> I had a basic idea of it drawn up actually
[8:09] <ccatss> https://i.imgur.com/rloapms.png
[8:09] <ccatss> Pis for example, and the serial expander is 8 outputs not 4
[8:13] <ccatss> I guess I should worry about the basic setup first instead of polishing :P
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[8:48] <elvishjerricco> Is linux-next (aarch64 build) supposed to boot on rpi 3 b+ out of the box right now?
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[9:23] <Lartza> elvishjerricco, No
[9:23] <Lartza> 4.18
[9:23] <Lartza> afaik
[9:24] <Lartza> Or actually, it possibly should boot but you're gonna have lots of missing hardware support
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[9:35] <elvishjerricco> Lartza: Is there any experimental tree I can try it on?
[9:36] <Lartza> I'm not sure
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[9:51] <elvishjerricco> github.com/raspberrypi/linux seems to work
[9:54] <Lartza> That's the foundation maintained kernel so wouldn't expect anything less
[9:55] <Lartza> Except that it may not work on aarch64 due to zero support
[9:58] <elvishjerricco> Is it heavily diverged from mainline / next? If there are relatively few changes, I can probably just find the patches I need to use linux-next.
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[10:09] <mfa298> elvishjerricco: aiui theyre getting most stuff mainlined slowly so the raspberrypi linux sources will be diverging from mainline less each release, but there are a few things that probably wont ever get mainlined as they only benefit the pi hardware
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