#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2018-07-11

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[5:23] <brianx> pwillard: 2 of my 3 samsung evo+ 16gb sd cards have also died. all bought quite a bit apart.
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[5:25] <brianx> lost the samsung 16gb sd card that came in an old samsung phone in less than 2 years of minimal use too, but that wasn't an evo+.
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[5:58] <Zardoz> brianx: man that's a lot of failures.
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[5:59] <brianx> only 3. i've only had 4 sd cards ever fail on me, it's just that 3 of them were samsung.
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[6:00] <Zardoz> I have not seen that type of stuff with my samsung cars. and also use nothing but...
[6:01] <Zardoz> most of the stuff I have seen fail are the cheap stuff, but I admit they was older cards then the samsungs for sure.
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[6:02] <Zardoz> the main thing I like about Samsung's is the performance.
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[6:14] <brianx> i bought the evo+ for the performance. not anymore.
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[6:15] <brianx> i did have a pair of china doa sd cards, but i don't count sellers ripping me off as a card failure.
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[10:19] <scrattan> hi.. wondering if rpi3 model b+ camera module can work with a rpi zero (it there any difference?)
[10:24] <CoJaBo> scrattan: The cable
[10:24] <scrattan> CoJaBo: aha... it wont fit in a rpi zero?
[10:25] <CoJaBo> I got mine from Amazon, annoyingly stores that sell the 0 and camera never seem to carry the cable.
[10:25] <CoJaBo> scrattan: The camera module will work with any pi that supports the camera (i.e., not the first-revision zero), but it only includes the cable for the full-sized pi's
[10:26] <scrattan> oh... thanks for the headsup!
[10:26] <CoJaBo> So if you're buying online, just make sure to get that too
[10:27] <Lartza> Yeah the zero camera connector is smaller
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[10:27] <stevenm> hey I'm going to take a gamble on a 2nd hand r-pi 2 model b from ebay
[10:28] <CoJaBo> Is it cheap?
[10:28] <Lartza> CoJaBo, But the firest zero has the camera connector too?
[10:28] <stevenm> it claims it has no hdmi output - but he also says he didn't have an sd card to test with it... so afaik... you wouldn't get hdmi output unless there was something to boot anyway (an sd card)
[10:28] <stevenm> CoJaBo, £16
[10:28] <Lartza> Oh first rev zero, meh
[10:28] <scrattan> CoJaBo: i think this is right cable and camera, what do you think? https://www.aliexpress.com/item/5MP-OV5647-Raspberry-pi-camera-module-with-16cm-flex-cable-for-Raspberry-zero-board/32869808638.html
[10:28] <Lartza> stevenm, There isn't indeed
[10:28] <stevenm> so it probably works fine
[10:29] <stevenm> there are some good photos of it - how can i tell if its a 1.2 version?
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[10:29] <stevenm> ah nvm it's 1.1
[10:29] <stevenm> that's fine anyway i gues
[10:30] <Lartza> stevenm, The main chip is 2837 instead of 2836 :)
[10:30] <stevenm> is £16 ($21, €18) a good deal for a r-pi 2 model B v1.1 ?
[10:31] <CoJaBo> stevenm: I've seen new pi2's for ~$15
[10:31] <CoJaBo> If it's broken, it's probably not a good deal unless they're more expensive in UK or something
[10:32] <stevenm> well if it is i wouldn't be able to return it i guess
[10:32] <stevenm> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/273346396769
[10:33] <Lartza> I mean you can get a new RPi 3 for 33€ in Finland
[10:33] <Lartza> So 18€ for a rpi 2 1.1 is stretching it
[10:33] <stevenm> actually just seen another for £13 without the "it may be broken" condition on it
[10:34] <CoJaBo> Pi 3 is $30 here
[10:34] <Lartza> with tax?
[10:34] <stevenm> yeah i've already got a pi 1, a 3b and a 3b+ (with official touch display)
[10:34] <CoJaBo> I haven't been able to find a 3b+ yet
[10:34] <stevenm> never had a 2 though... got a tiny need for one at work.. so don't want to spend much as it'd be partly for work purpose anyway
[10:35] <stevenm> CoJaBo, i ordered the poe hat too - but not gonna show up for well over another month, beens months already
[10:36] <Lartza> months??
[10:36] <stevenm> Lartza, http://cpc.farnell.com/raspberry-pi/rpi3-modbp-poe/poe-hat-for-raspberry-pi-3-model/dp/SC14884?CMP=TREML007-005
[10:36] <stevenm> i bought that 18th March
[10:36] <Lartza> :/
[10:36] <stevenm> delayed until at least 27th aug
[10:37] <shiftplusone> no idea why they listed them
[10:37] <stevenm> shiftplusone, when i bought it they were claiming it'd be ready by start of june - so didn't seem that bad
[10:37] <shiftplusone> I don't think the firmware for them was even ready then
[10:37] <CoJaBo> stevenm: what do you need it for?
[10:38] <shiftplusone> The linux driver for the fan still isn't
[10:38] <shiftplusone> but yeah, they had some factory issues and had to switch companies, AIUI, causing delays.
[10:38] <shiftplusone> but still instead of factory delays, it would've been software delays.
[10:38] <stevenm> CoJaBo, i've got one of those SmartiPi frames for the official touch display - only with a larger covered back box... so in theory i'm hoping to get an all-in-one PoE powered touch display computer
[10:39] <stevenm> to replace the O2 Joggler which I use at the moment (with a poe splitter I've got glued to the back of that :P)
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[10:46] <mfa298> shiftplusone: some of us might still be interested in the PoE hat even if we have to update the firmware (although something about what's needed to do that might be useful - from memory the 6 pin header looked a bit AVR ish)
[10:46] <shiftplusone> yes, it's avr, but not the old programming interface, it's one of the new chips which uses updi
[10:46] <stevenm> mfa298, i'm not entirely sure why that hat needs fan tbh - i'm hoping when released it doesn't have that
[10:47] <shiftplusone> I couldn't get this to work https://github.com/mraardvark/pyupdi/, so had to use an Atmel ICE, although there are cheaper options that avrdude supports
[10:47] <stevenm> i use poe splitters now with r-pi's and they don't have fans... they just split the 802.3af into a data rj45 cable and a microusb power cable (selectable at 5v/9v/12v)
[10:48] <shiftplusone> You'll be able to disable the fan if you don't want it
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[10:49] <mfa298> stevenm: I think the idea is that it's to help cool the SoC as adding the hat reduces the space for airflow
[10:50] <mfa298> and presumably the assumption is that people using the PoE hat might also be putting the Pi in places where there's reduced airflow anyway (PoE isn't the sort of thing that's common in the home)
[10:50] <stevenm> mfa298, well i'm using this back cover... so i'm hoping there will be enough space for the hat and enough air flow... https://www.modmypi.com/raspberry-pi/screens-and-displays/screen-cases/smartipi-touch-back-cover-large-37mm/?search=back
[10:51] <stevenm> whenever it shows up - at the moment the r-pi3b+/touch display/smartipi is all built together working fine - just without that last component the poe hat
[10:53] <stevenm> what do you make of this? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/372340300689 <-- i wasn't really looking for it (just caught my eye) - but i *think* it may be for the older r-pi 1 with the old yellow video component output? not sure
[10:53] <stevenm> i like how it looks very appliance-like
[10:54] <mfa298> that looks like it's for the original B (and maybe A based on the knockouts for the 2nd USB and ethernet)
[10:55] <stevenm> yeah i think it is... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181141095543
[10:56] <stevenm> a £4.50 version - gonna get it anyway, my ooold r-pi will look nice in it strapped to the back of a USB UPS running NUTS
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[10:56] <stevenm> NUT rather :)
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[11:02] <CoJaBo> I vaguely remember once seeing a pic of a pi with eth lights on the board. Wow thats old lol
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[11:04] <CoJaBo> I've never even owned one of them https://www.adafruit.com/product/998#Slide2
[11:05] <CoJaBo> Also wow, that slideshow actually works
[11:06] <mfa298> I've still got a couple of later 1Bs in use. They tend to be the ones that get stuff connected to them (I'm less worried if I fry them)
[11:06] <stevenm> i think i have one of those, a Model B Rev 2 with hardware code 0004
[11:07] <mlankhorst> haven't managed to fry a pi yet, only messed up soldering on some 0s
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[11:08] <shiftplusone> Well... that was a productive morning. Kernel driver for the fan seems to be working. =)
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[11:13] <CoJaBo> I managed to short one out once
[11:14] <CoJaBo> Left it sit a while, and it came back to life =D
[11:15] <chrisphonk> CoJaBo: Ouch, been there as well, put a huge smile on my lips when it came back up again
[11:16] <mfa298> I've only broken one by watering it (having your electronics uncased on the windowsill next to a plant pot isn't a wise idea)
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[11:17] <mfa298> but I've killed other electronics before now (I've got an amplifier chip with a nice hole in the casing where I connected it to a 12V SLA backwards)
[11:17] <chrisphonk> mfa298: Good point, I'm actually guilty of doing that right now :D
[11:17] <mfa298> so I know it's probably only a matter of time until I kill a Pi with electricity
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[11:18] <CoJaBo> I got this in once https://i.imgur.com/gBil4.jpg
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[11:27] <krion> hello
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[11:31] <vegii> Hi. I have a quick question. Is WIFI using USB on rpi 3B+ and is it the same USB port as the ethernet AND all the USB hub ports that are broken out?
[11:32] <Habbie> no, the wifi is sdio
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[11:34] <vegii> thanks
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[11:40] <BCMM> (with the interesting consequence that the peak network <-> hard drive bandwidth on the pi is achieved over the wireless interface, not the wired one)
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[11:42] <vegii> what is the wifi interface shared with?
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[11:45] <shiftplusone> vegii: nothing
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[11:46] <BurtyB> I found when using both sd interfaces access seemed to be interleaved - don't know if the same applies when using sdio for wifi tho
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[15:23] <vimrc[m]> hi, what's an easy way to connect an external hdd to a pi and access it from the internet?
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[15:24] <vimrc[m]> I'm new to this so I don't want to risk setting up something without security
[15:24] <pksato> integral: Yes, have, but it is not safe.
[15:25] <pksato> ops
[15:25] <pksato> sorry, wrong nick.
[15:25] <pksato> vimrc[m]: Yes, have, but it is not safe.
[15:25] <vimrc[m]> ohh
[15:25] <vimrc[m]> how so?
[15:25] <wigums> vimrc[m], just ssh to it. or for file transfer use scp or even better setup sshfs
[15:26] <wigums> if you want to share files on your LAN setup nfs
[15:26] <vimrc[m]> hmm I was thinking of streaming music from it. Guess I'll require something like plex then?
[15:26] <vimrc[m]> oh and btw samba is only over local networks?
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[15:27] <wigums> no you can access samba over internet
[15:27] <vimrc[m]> oh hmm
[15:27] <wigums> so can nfs and sshfs
[15:27] <wigums> ssh is always gonna be your best bet since its encrypted
[15:27] <pksato> only for streaming?
[15:27] <wigums> for anything
[15:28] <vimrc[m]> yes
[15:28] <vimrc[m]> I can stream using ssh?
[15:28] <vimrc[m]> I mean, without download the file locally
[15:28] <vimrc[m]> *downloading
[15:29] <pksato> use a http server.
[15:29] <pksato> apache, lighthttp, nginx, etc
[15:30] <vimrc[m]> oh to serve the files huh?
[15:30] <vimrc[m]> hmm so I'll have to expose my IP then?
[15:30] <pksato> but, all these option need access to you router and a fixed dns name or even a fixed ip/
[15:30] <pksato> Yes. need expose ip address.
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[15:33] <pksato> If want privacy and safity, use some VPN service that allow to create a own network.
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[15:34] <wigums> or just use ssh tunnels
[15:34] <HrdwrBoB> vimrc[m]: tldr it's generally wrong
[15:34] <wigums> on a non standard ssh port
[15:35] <HrdwrBoB> you're far better off with a cloud service
[15:35] * wigums kicks HrdwrBoB in the taint
[15:35] <HrdwrBoB> in 99% of cases
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[15:36] <vimrc[m]> what are ssh tunnels?
[15:36] <vimrc[m]> HrdwrBoB you mean something like dataplicity?
[15:36] <vimrc[m]> Or do you mean onedrive?
[15:37] <wigums> https://www.ssh.com/ssh/tunneling/#sec-What-is-an-SSH-tunnel
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[15:41] <pksato> vimrc[m]: You want to access the HDD from any device, or just from another Linux or Windows any other desktop OS.
[15:41] <r0b-> is it bad if the Pi runs ~84C?
[15:41] <r0b-> no heatsink...
[15:41] <vimrc[m]> pksato from a linux system
[15:41] <vimrc[m]> thanks wigums
[15:41] <wigums> yw
[15:42] <pksato> wigums: use sshfs
[15:42] <wigums> i already said sshfs like 12 times
[15:42] <pksato> and, use pre-shared keys, not password login.
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[15:43] <wigums> im simply mentioning various methods to securely access his pi
[15:44] <wigums> vimrc[m], also remember that the pi is usb2 which will limit your transfer speed
[15:45] <wigums> why do they use usb2 anyway?
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[15:46] <vimrc[m]> oh :/
[15:46] <pksato> BCM SoC have only USB2 as generic bus.
[15:46] <vimrc[m]> only music tho
[15:46] <vimrc[m]> shouldn't be a prob, right?
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[15:46] <wigums> i wouldnt worry too much about it tbh
[15:46] <wigums> you can vnc through an ssh tunnel too
[15:47] <wigums> the easiest way would prob be just to set up and httpd and serve your files like that
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[15:51] <vimrc[m]> ok
[15:51] <vimrc[m]> thanks for all the help folks
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[15:51] <vimrc[m]> may we never be ddos'ed
[15:51] <wigums> yw
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[16:24] <Goldschlager120> hello
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[16:27] <wigums> Goldschlager120, mornin
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[16:28] <Goldschlager120> mornin', wigums, how's it going
[16:28] <wigums> it goes... yourself?
[16:29] <Goldschlager120> same. Dreading the "to-do" list today and procrastinating it
[16:29] <wigums> lol
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[16:29] <r0b-> What is a good heatsink for a pi3?
[16:30] <DrJ> you really don't need one
[16:31] <wigums> i use this
[16:31] <wigums> https://www.amazon.com/Smraza-Raspberry-Cooling-Aluminum-Heatsinks/dp/B0723HPMJC/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1531319448&sr=8-5&keywords=rpi+heatsink&dpID=51hZSXBhVvL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch
[16:31] <r0b-> ok
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[16:32] <DrJ> r0b-: just keep in mind that adding one is really just vanity
[16:32] <r0b-> eh my pi is hiding in a touch screen case so
[16:32] <r0b-> Running SDR it gets ~85C so
[16:32] <r0b-> but doesnt throttle :P
[16:32] <DrJ> if its not throttleing then it's not getting too hot
[16:32] <wigums> DrJ, you must be my age if you remember julius erving
[16:33] <DrJ> I don't have the slightest clue who that is
[16:33] <wigums> basketball player that went by DrJ
[16:33] <DrJ> ah
[16:33] <r0b-> https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61f4fD1JVWL._SL1200_.jpg the case I use
[16:33] <wigums> he polayed like 30 years ago
[16:33] <wigums> played
[16:34] <DrJ> wigums: I use to go by just "J" but it was a mess with highlighter scripts. So I awarded myself a doctorate in Baconology and prefixed it with "Dr"... thus DrJ
[16:34] <wigums> haha
[16:35] <wigums> nice
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[16:35] <wigums> speaking of i think a bacon tomoato and lettuce sandwich is todays delicious lunch
[16:36] <wigums> cant go wrong with bacon
[16:36] <BurtyB> DrJ, 85C and not throttling sounds wrong - does "vcgencmd get_throttled" show 0x0 at that temp?
[16:36] <DrJ> you'd have to as r0b-
[16:36] <DrJ> ask
[16:37] <r0b-> BurtyB, it sits ~84C.
[16:37] <r0b-> doing SDR stuff
[16:37] <chris_99> Does anyone here use https://github.com/RPi-Distro/pi-gen much per chance? it's working great, but it doesn't seem to be letting me change the timezone for some reason, when i edit https://raw.githubusercontent.com/RPi-Distro/pi-gen/master/stage2/01-sys-tweaks/00-debconf
[16:37] <wigums> adding some heatsinks wont do you any wrong for the $8 they cost
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[16:38] <r0b-> yea
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[16:40] <shiftplusone> chris_99: what does the debconf file look like for you?
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[16:41] <chris_99> is it ok if i paste four lines, or should i pastebin
[16:41] <wigums> always pastebin
[16:41] <chris_99> kk
[16:41] <chris_99> one sec
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[16:42] <chris_99> https://pastebin.com/raw/tHDfiYJJ
[16:43] <shiftplusone> A bit busy, but I'll take a look in a minute.
[16:43] <chris_99> cheers
[16:44] <shiftplusone> honestly it should just be set to London by default
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[16:51] <bazooll> Hi
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[16:53] <chris_99> oh there's something odd, if i do debconf-set-selections on the pi itself
[16:53] <chris_99> it's not changing either
[16:54] <shiftplusone> chris_99: that's expected... debconf-set-selections doesn't actually change anything in most cases.
[16:55] <shiftplusone> but if the selections are set when the package is being installed, it will use the set values
[16:55] <shiftplusone> (I've wasted many hours before I realized that)
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[16:57] <chris_99> that doesn't really make any sense, that's ridiculous
[16:57] <chris_99> i guess i'll just alter the symnlink to localtime instead
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[16:59] <shiftplusone> that should work as a workaround
[16:59] <Khaytsus> Shouldn't you be using raspi-config? Assuming you're using raspian anyway
[17:00] <shiftplusone> Khaytsus: that should be what raspi-config does
[17:00] <Khaytsus> Honestly no idea what it does under the covers ;) But I know that's the recommanded method to change locale, tz, etc
[17:00] <chris_99> i'm using pi-gen
[17:00] <chris_99> to setup an image though
[17:01] <shiftplusone> actually, it just runs dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[17:01] <shiftplusone> chris_99: changing the default timezone to London in pi-gen is on my todo list anyway, so the problem may resolve itself for you
[17:01] <chris_99> heh nice
[17:01] <Khaytsus> makes sense.. I'm not a debian user, and my pi usage is typically for a single purpose.. I don't use any of them as a general purpose machine, so I don't do much with them beyond configuring what I need
[17:01] <chris_99> oh do you work on pi-gen?
[17:02] <shiftplusone> chris_99: yes
[17:02] <chris_99> cool
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[17:03] <chris_99> it's very handy! gonna be setting up around 16 pis using it in a bit
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[17:04] <shiftplusone> I'd like to rewrite it, since it got unwieldy.
[17:04] <chris_99> heh
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[17:05] <chris_99> my only slight issue if i dont clear the working directory sometimes, sometimes the image may have old data in
[17:05] <chris_99> but that's to be expected
[17:06] <shiftplusone> set CLEAN=1 in the config file so it will clear it out for you each time
[17:06] <chris_99> but that would also delete the packages right?
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[17:06] <shiftplusone> it would remove the whole stage, so yes.
[17:06] <chris_99> mm
[17:06] <chris_99> yeah i wanted to avoid that
[17:07] <shiftplusone> fair enough
[17:07] <chris_99> it'd be cool if they where cached in a directory and imported
[17:07] <shiftplusone> is the issue that they need to be downloaded or the time it takes to install them?
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[17:08] <chris_99> yeah the download issue, i guess i could do the apt proxy thing ?
[17:08] <shiftplusone> yes
[17:08] <chris_99> woo the time is correct now heh
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[17:09] <shiftplusone> ah, you already had the tzdata package installed so the preseed values weren't being applied?
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[17:11] <chris_99> i did try deleting the working dir
[17:11] <chris_99> completely
[17:11] <chris_99> to no avail thoo
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[17:13] <chris_99> oh be curious as to people's opinions, would you guys disable the systemd time sync and use ntpd - ala - http://raspberrypi.tomasgreno.cz/ntp-client-and-server.html ?
[17:13] <chris_99> to setup an ntp server on a pi
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[17:16] <Khaytsus> chris_99: AFAIK systemd doesn't have a ntp server.. only client
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[17:16] <Khaytsus> But in terms of systemd doing ntp client stuff.. it's fine
[17:17] <chris_99> ah yeah you're right, im looking to setup a server, i guess for the client stuff i can still use the systemd one thoo
[17:17] <chris_99> and point it at the local nptd servver
[17:17] <Khaytsus> Yep, if you need a server for other clients, that's a separate thing.. ntpd :)
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[17:18] <Khaytsus> Or... if your time source is not supported by systemd. I set up ntpd recently on a pi because my time source is a GPS
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[17:19] <chris_99> ooh nifty
[17:19] <chris_99> i bought a rubidium clock a while ago i wanted to use for a clock sometime heh, but it'd still need to be disciplined by GPS kind of
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[17:22] <Khaytsus> Yeah, I have a gps tracklogger in my car.. usb gps and a pi zero w. Stores csv data to its sdcard and then rsyncs it to my workstation
[17:22] <Khaytsus> So needs to get time from the gps. I could have also grabbed a RTC module but... already need the GPS so
[17:23] <Khaytsus> I still can't get it to automatically do the rsync... I still need to debug that. It's supposed to try to see if it can reach my workstation on wifi connect but it's not. I just need to plug it in and ssh into it and debug.. so for now I just manually kick it off every so often
[17:24] <chris_99> ooh neat
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[17:26] <chris_99> is there a way to see when timesyncd has syncd?
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[17:29] <Khaytsus> chris_99: timedatectl
[17:29] <Khaytsus> But specificically when it syncs? Maybe logs
[17:30] <chris_99> yeah specifically when, oh actually 'systemd-timesyncd[1039]: Synchronized to time server [ip]' is in journalctl
[17:30] <chris_99> so i guess it's workign
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[17:30] <Khaytsus> yep
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[17:33] <chris_99> well that was suprisingly painless heh
[17:34] <Khaytsus> chris_99: Yeah a year or so ago I for some reason decided to look to see if ntpclient was doing its thing, was really annoyed it wasn't set up, went to mess with it etc..... then stumbled into systemd doing it
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[17:34] <Khaytsus> I'm no systemd fan... I think 95% of what it does it shouldn't have done in the first place. but eh, it works
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[17:40] <chris_99> heh
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[18:29] <pwillard> I'm with you Khaytsus... but when we talk like that we get called Old Pharts clinging to the past... to which I reply... so why are you still using EMACS and Vi?
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[18:33] <wigums> people forget the philosophy of do one thing and do it well too. atleast the new generation has imo
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[18:33] <wigums> so what how old software is if it works
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[18:34] <pwillard> exactly... there was no strong need to fix what was not broken
[18:35] <pwillard> apparently these was a strong need to for someone to say "I MADE THIS".
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[18:41] <wigums> heh
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[20:37] <HermanDE> I've loaded the snd_bcm2835, set the dtparam=audio=on running on Linux 4.17.5 and still no sound. Any suggestions?
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[21:33] <vegii> does rpi 3 without + have wifi on USB or is it sdio?
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[21:35] <chris_99> i'm 90% sure it's not usb, someone else will know better though ;)
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[21:35] <chris_99> oh wait i thought you meant 3b+ sorry
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[21:37] <wigums> vegii, correct rpi 3 doesnt have wifi. i just use a $10 usb wifi dongle
[21:40] <Khaytsus> huh? rpi 3 has wifi
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[21:40] <waveform> rpi3 has wifi, and it's also on sdio not USB
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[21:41] <waveform> however, it doesn't support 5Ghz (which the new wifi chip on the 3+ does)
[21:41] <Khaytsus> Ah. I wish the pi zero w did 5ghz
[21:42] <wigums> ah no shit. i must not have ever even looked if it had wifi. sweet
[21:42] <wigums> lol
[21:42] <waveform> wigums, watch the language please
[21:42] <wigums> yep
[21:43] <waveform> thanks :)
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[22:05] <HermanDE> Any suggestions for getting audio on RPI3?
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[22:15] <lopta> HermanDE: Out of which hole?
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[22:16] <chris_99> also checked the mixer settings i guess?
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[22:23] <HermanDE> Yep.. No sound card detected. Thus, no mixer.
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[22:31] <erm3nda> HermanDE, checked if the sound card module was loaded?
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[22:31] <erm3nda> is not sound working out of the box in most of rpi3 operating systems? using raspbian?
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[22:37] <HermanDE> I'm using Debian with all of the rpi mods.
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[22:44] <erm3nda> HermanDE, i can't figure out why would not work if you didn't touch
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[22:45] <erm3nda> HermanDE, it is you using any display?
[22:45] <erm3nda> which audio port?
[22:46] <HermanDE> I've tried the HDMI and the analog port.
[22:46] <HermanDE> Simply no sound card...
[22:47] <erm3nda> check that https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/44/why-is-my-audio-sound-output-not-working
[22:47] <erm3nda> told you to ensure the sound module was loaded, you just ignored that msg
[22:47] <Khaytsus> I've never had to mess around to get sound to work.. built in or usb sound card.. just worked
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[22:48] <erm3nda> on that current rpi?
[22:51] <HermanDE> It's loaded...
[22:51] <HermanDE> Got a good test with omxplayer.
[22:51] <HermanDE> But nothing on alsa....
[22:51] <HermanDE> Hmmmmm
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[22:53] <erm3nda> tried the alsa test?
[22:53] <erm3nda> using hdmi need to set that mode for sound in boot.txt
[22:53] <erm3nda> did u read all posts in that link?
[22:53] <erm3nda> if nothing on that post solves for you there's something really wrong out of that
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[22:55] <HermanDE> alsa test fails. No alsa device
[22:55] <HermanDE> Mode is set.
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[22:56] <HermanDE> ....hdmi_drive is set.
[22:56] <erm3nda> i assumed you rebooted once edited the boot.txt file ...
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[23:22] <Lope> When running dosbox on RbPi 3, what speed CPU is the emulated CPU equivalent to?
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[23:37] <lopta> Lope: Does dosbox even work on a non-PC platform?
[23:37] <lopta> Lope: I used to use pc-emu, if that helps.
[23:37] <lopta> ...though not on a Pi.
[23:37] <lopta> ...but I know that emulated the PC as well as the firmware.
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[23:38] <BCMM> lopta: yes. dosbox is a real x86 emulator.
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[23:39] <BCMM> (not, like, a hardware hypervisor style thing)
[23:40] <Lope> I've been googling it. Apparently a lot of people are running Dosbox with dos games on RbPi. But the performance is not great.
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[23:40] <Lope> 700mhz RbPi is equiv to a 20Mhz 486 CPU, some say even 386 or 286.
[23:40] <chris_99> intriguing
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[23:41] <Lope> (but most say 700mhz Pi = 20mhz 486 CPU)
[23:41] <Lope> When emulating with dosbox
[23:41] <BCMM> lopta: this allows it to do things like emulate a given clock speed, for those "turbo button" games that used the CPU for timing
[23:42] <lopta> Oh good. I must be thinking of something else then.
[23:42] <lopta> I wonder whether it can run CP/M-86
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[23:43] <Lope> DosBox has Dynamic Recompilation, but apparently it only works when running on x86 or Arm4 (whatever that is) CPUs.
[23:43] <BCMM> lopta: looks like it does also have an instruction translation mode for x86 systems only, actually. higher performance.
[23:43] <chris_99> oh interesting Lope, i just had this typed into the irc textbox heh "i wonder, not that i know anything about emulation, but could the emulator kind of convert the whole dos program into arm instructions, ahead of time?"
[23:44] <Lope> chris_99, it will probably happen eventually.
[23:44] <Lope> it's just a matter of some skilled assembler programmers figuring it out.
[23:45] <BCMM> point is, dosbox does also have the ability to fully interpret x86 without hardware assistance, i.e. it's a full software implementation of an 80806
[23:46] <BCMM> ^8086
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[23:47] <lopta> Hmm... think that lacks CMOV (or some other 186 instruction that CP/M needed).
[23:49] <BCMM> lopta: http://www.skypoint.com/members/ande1054/dos-box-144cpm86a.jpg
[23:50] <lopta> Thanks BCMM
[23:51] <Lope> Would dosbox run okay on an n270 single core Atom 1.6ghz CPU?
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[23:51] <Lope> for "demanding" games like duke3d
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[23:54] <chris_99> ooh check this - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_translation, right someone do that static translation for DOS asap ;)
[23:54] <chris_99> they did it for mario apparently heh
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[23:56] <chris_99> heh
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